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- Silicone Caulking can be a Disaster if used wrong, or a miracle when used right. Open the description below for more information, and see the END of the video for helpful links.
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Thank you! My parents DIY'd their bathroom, and the caulking around the bathroom sink is horrendous. Trying to paint and repair, and got stuck! Glad to hear the oil based primer will do the job - I was thinking I might need to scrape, sand, and recoat - so this is a way better solution.
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I've been painting and drywalling for 22 years and I've seen this happen, white pigmented shellac will make it paintable or oil base primer, if not it'll fisheye big time. This man really knows his stuff. When I use silicone caulking in wet rooms I basically cut the tip as small as needed and don't wipe it, kinda like sider's, you just gun it smooth, small, and evenly.
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A good way to finish silicone is to carefully run a bead than spray it with denatured alcohol then wipe it with either your finger or a grout beading tool. It won't stick to your finger or spread out when finishing it. Comes out lovely.
Thanks for the tip 👍🏼
I use ammonia free pressurized window cleaner. They sell it at Walmart or the dollar store, it's in a blue and white can. The brand is called Sprayway....I have a can of denatured alcohol but it's much more expensive than the window cleaner. Just a tip if you don't want to waste your alcohol! 🤣🍻
I learned a trick - if you put unpaintable silicone and need to paint it - put a coat of shellac paint first on the silicone bead. Then it dries, you can put a regular paint on top. Not perfect, but it can cover some mistakes.
Ok. Another good video. You are 100% correct. You cant paint over silicone, and it is really only good at a few things. Calking countertops to each other or against areas not to be painted...ever. Or in building fish tanks.
Anything else either use something like "siliconized " latex or for areas that need to withstand the elements a polyurethane caulk. Which I would not recommend for novices but is probably the best all around sealant there is.
Latex caulk, or even silicone caulk over silicone caulk will eventually fail. If a bath or shower needs to be recaulked. You must remove all the old silicone caulk and as much of the residue as possible. For some reason. Not only doesn't anything water based like to stick to silicone. But silicone itself doesn't like to stick to cured silicone either. it will go on. But it wont hold up.
If you must paint over silicone or anything that has had silicone on it (the residue often remains even after the silicone is removed) the oil primer will work somewhat. But as someone else pointed out a shellac based primer will work and hold up the best over the course of years. BIN is one. Sherwin williams also makes one though the name escapes me at the moment even though ki have a can in my truck. LOL
the good thing about shellac based primer is it sticks to everything. the bad thing about shellac primer...is it sticks to everything. So be careful on what you get it on. Especially eyeglasses.
Shellac based primer is good to know, many THX 👍
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Well explained, I used the wrong chalk in the bathroom!!, thanks, gotta go get the right stuff.. I appreciate your knowledge 😀
Great presentation. In the past I’ve used rustoleum spray paint over silicone before painting.
Silicone has low surface energy, it means is hard to bond after cured and the paint won't stick. I have used PU sealant indoors, they are paintable and have a good range of hardness and flexibility.
You might try dewaxed shellac like Zinsser SealCoat. It is good for going between different kinds of finishes.
Great advice. I used a squeeze tube if siliconized caulking. Found your information here very helpful! 👍🏻
Thank you so much for this video! Just found this! Planning to caulk some cracks with Sillicone in the bathroom dry wall. Now I know how to prime it and paint over it! Thank you!
I stopped in to raz the guy with the dress and stayed for the knowledge he was sharing.
Glad to find your channel if for no other reason than to watch/listen to a proper skilled tradesman.
Thanks man
Tooling silicone caulking becomes a lot easier when you spray the bead with window cleaner or soapy water.
Thank you for a great demonstration. I save a lot of DIY time by watching your channel!
Cool experiments as always! I didn’t even need this video to tell me to never use silicone in certain situations but I can see how this is useful content for a novice. And even though I already knew the outcomes I still watched your video lol nice work!
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I prefer Dap 230 over Alex. I can use it inside and outside. Only downside to Dap 230 is longer drying time. It acts like a silicone and never cracks.
Much better stuff than the regular Alex.
Thanks for the video from Davenport Iowa. I always enjoy them
Glad to hear that! Guy
Silicone caulk that burns your eyes is releasing acetic acid. There are other silicones that don't use acetic acid as a curing agent. The problem with the silicone/paint combo is the silicone oil in the rubber base material. Nothing sticks to it. Alcohol can help to remove it but it's really always there.
I used to build semi custom boats and I wouldn't allow silicone in the building. Fish eyes in a hull side stand out like a sore thumb and ruin a $10000 paint job. And can ruin it a second time if you don't get it all off (and you never really know until you pull the trigger). I hate silicone.
Wow !, Ok !, What do You use ???
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Urethane sealants like 3M 5200
Another great helpful video! Thank you!💪🏻👏👏👏
My Husband used 100% silicone caulk on the bedroom (didn't read the label and grabbed the wrong tube) I have been trying to figure out how to get the paint to stick / have tried everything (including peeling the caulk off - which I could not). Never thought of oil based paint ! Thanks So much!
You could also cover the silicone caulk with a skim coat of paintable caulk, once it dries you can paint over it.
Great video. Thanks! 👍🏻
Fantastic video! Was looking for a solution for this. You did all the work so I don't have to!
Subbed--simple well presented and demonstrated, useful info.
Nice video and cat. I recently used white silicone between a white plastic window and wood window trim. Not sure that was the best solution but I was painting the trim white so the paint resistance of the white silicone actually seemed to help result in a clean line.
Thanks 😊
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Great demo!
As a professional painter I hated the fast dry caulk and would never use it. The only time you really need it is if you are needing to paint right away on a repair job. But it doesn't feather right and requires to wet it to spread it.
Great tips much appreciate.
Thanks, I don't know why it never occurred to me to just go over the silicon with another product that is paintable.
Was told years ago by a paint guy that primer/paint is a marketing gig. He said you cannot have both together so its all marketing..just throwing it out there but maybe times have changed.
flexseal spray 'paint'
can flex seal brrand paint seal over previously silicones tub / wall caulking ?
Even though I knew better - I had some leftover white silicone caulk after trimming my countertops & backsplash didn't want it to goto waste. So I figured I'd burn this tube out trimming inside small cabinet above stove (all cleaned & prepped minus white paint tho). Of course my paint ran but Rustoleum sells a universal bond to anything primer spray paint. Sprayed some layers over my silicone joints and it painted beautifully. EZ fix highly recommend!
I always appreciate "demos" that explain pros and cons of materials, techniques, practices, etc. Thanks!
I have found Inslx Stix primer will stick to silicone. It’s best to just remove
It works great in plumbing
So many of the things he has pointed out that are the wrong thing to do, I've done. Some shortcuts are not shortcuts at all. Even easier to do it right the first time than to rework a wrong shortcut. Peace.
how do fix silcon gone wrong on door jams / trim
Thanks for sharing.
Installed over 100 tubes of silicone in my row home most of them 35 years ago when I had walls open. Silicone gaps between hardwood floors & walls. Silicone bottom of sheetrock to floor silicone to seal all electrical boxes on outside walls. Got most of it free from work. Have all low e windows and added insulation in static equal to around a R45. Had the temperature set at 74 to 76 all last winter and gas bill was never over a $100. That includes gas water heater dryer & stove. Usually purchase bathroom silicone because it usually will not mildew.
The name of the product you couldn't remember is TSP - Trisodium Phosphate . For etching shiny surfaces before painting .
I just discovered your channel and I love you! I had new windows installed and they used siliconized caulking around them, on the inside and out! I can't get a nice crisp clean line on my paint. I'm going to try your advice and hope for the best. Thank you so much for sharing your knowledge with us. Love you!
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Trying to fix a horrible caulking job.
It's globbed on and hard plastic. I have tried, a razor knife, solvent remover and a caulk remover tool. It's truly 1/4" thick in places and as hard as fiberglass. I wish I could send a picture because I really need to clean it up so it can be recaulked properly.
Do you think you could help.
I would appreciate it so much.
I'm a member because you are so easy to understand.
You've helped me immensely with sheetrock, mudding and tools.
Thank you!
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They have paintable silicone now, used it many times.
What about the DAP AMP advanced modified polymer?
Lexel when possible. If you're doing around a sink, or countertop, or something where there's a gap to the wall, paint the wall first.
It's crystal clear and it will look like a perfect line from any angle.
Yes it's expensive
If you ever want to paint again, it's paintable you don't have to scrape it out. It sticks to itself. If you want to put more on, you don't have to scrape it all out.
It sticks to nearly everything, near water or not.
Lexel, the Lexus of caulking.
This is off topic, but I have heard that you shouldn't use tile in manufactured homes, is that true? I have seen them from the factory where they have grouped LVP-I assume that's what they used as it looks and feels real but is half the thickness of real tile. But I have also seen in higher end models where they have tile walk in showers, so I don't know if they add extra support for the weight or if they use a special type of grout? We have a 2005 Norris single wide and it expands and contracts a lot- like the LVP flooring has gaps in it, and the Crown molding had gaps in it so we puddied up all the joints so now when it expands it will bow out from the wall a little- is that normal? We used too didnt keep the ac temp set the same we would do 67° day and 59° night. We stopped doing that but the gaps still are getting bigger and bigger in the LVP floors. The house does have factory tile trimming the countertops and there is no cracks in the grout which made me wonder if they use a special type of grout. I feel like this message is all over the place, sorry about that. The adhd is real today lol.
Well on my next trip back home to the States I will be bringing back several tubes of GE's best silicone caulk. The products I have used here trade names Mercola and Den Braven might get you two years before they sprout black mould. Lucky I have not done any finish caulking in my baths in my home. I tested those local caulks on rental property and they failed miserably.
Thanks 🙏
hair dryer on the caulk will help the paint to stick.
After working with silicone clear caulk for many occasions and applications,I've decided it's an inferior product and won't use it again. It shrinks, it molds, and it yellows over time.
i bought a mobile home to fully remodel (flip) and this crap is EVERYWHERE. window installation, fixing (they wish) everything. sealed around counters and sinks on walls. The only place they did not use it was around the tub and shower which is the ONLY place for silicone.
Makes Sense!
Every plumber out there should know that the silicone you have should only be used for kitchen, bath only, if they don't they should not be a plumber. And home owners should know as well it states right in the tube what's it's for . Oh wait I forgot it's 2024 so most people can't read or write they only know how to be on there cell phones all day, My bad..
I was just about to use caulking like that before I saw your vid......ye.....whew!
Would etching primer work for smooth surfaces
Good video! Thanks for some good information! I hope you are feeling better these days! I have to do some work at my mother in law’s house soon. She has one bedroom where in three of the rooms corners it looks like someone caulked the vertical corners. When it starts getting cold the corner blisters the entire length of the adjoining surfaces. During the spring/summer it goes back to normal. It looks like they butted the vertical corners tight to each other and did not pre-fill the joint with hot mud. Do you have any suggestions. Thanks for your time.
Sincerely,
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i’ve caulked many angles and seen them years later and they were fine so it sounds like they used a really low grade caulking. This caulking is made to stretch and expand and stick really well and I plan to test it soon. amzn.to/3iOy7Kp
@@ThatKiltedGuyDIY great thank you for the advice/information. I will give it a try.
Thanks for your time Guy, I hope you are as healthy and wealthy as you are wise!
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Thanks, not that great on either health or wealth but working on it
I had to figure out a long time ago how to paint silicone caulk.
That 10 year mold free resistance thing on that product is questionable .. I've re-silicone'd my shower door frame twice in the past 3 years, and it needs it again.. the mold ONLY shows up on the silicone..nowhere else in the shower. I strip all old caulk, and clean completely each time before I caulk again.. I'm wanting to try another brand..
@WVmom63 Or it doesnt, like tge entire bead of silicone joining two shower panels or every air condtioner ever made ever.
White on white use blue or s/t else
Just go over it..with new caulk...ive had to do this..
A wipe of ALEX over top makes it okay. Unfortunately sticks WELL to it.
Do you put yellow dye in your mud? It doesn't look white. I am having a hard time seeing my mud and thought the dye might help. Thanks. Your videos are great.
It comes that way
I use regular mud but for detail and touch-up I add lil bit of yellow tint to the mud so I can see where I did work
They have USG tinted plus 3 in northeast....we don't have it
Painters tints work really well though....what I use
GE has a paintable Advanced Hybrid kitchen & bath.
It’s not 100% silicone is why it works
Just several months back I painted a bathroom that had work done to it about 15 years ago, unfortunately the people who did the work used 100% silicone calking around not only the tub and sink but also the molding around where the walls meet the ceiling, yes it was a nightmare.
One of your contemporaries on another channel recommended a can of spray shellac to coat the silicone with first and it worked beautifully.
That same trick was also recommended by someone on another channel to coat drywall areas that have had the outer layer of paper torn off exposing the brown paper underneath before putting mud on them for fill, it also worked beautifully for that and doesn't take long to dry after spraying it on.
It does work great for those things, but I avoid it often due to the odor in a customers finished home, and the flammability issue, but it's pretty safe in small amounts.
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Yea I only used it for spot repairs generally, the silicone in that bathroom got primed over shortly after the shellac was applied since it dried so quickly and sealed it's odor off before the homeowner even got home from work that day.
If you put a coat of contact cement on silicone, the paint will stick.
Now THAT is interesting!!
My landlords former maintenance guys. Used caulking on everything!!! And I mean everything.!! Pitiful how crappy there work was!!!
Spray with hair spray, let it dry then paint. I have done this on lots of jobs.
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Thanks. A LOT of people make this mistake so hoping I can help stop more from trying this.
You certainly are buddy you do a great job as always
The best and easiliest way to paint on silicone is to put paintable caulk of the top of it.
what to use in floor and baseboard?..... I applied caulk but turn yellow after few months.
Big stretch is good
@@ThatKiltedGuyDIY I will try that. thanks.
how about clear silicone?
Same
Invisible caulk lines drive me crazy!
the caulk can not be painted interior or exterior a long ago bad idea. .use it in a tub areas.Yup we know about that.
What brand of caulking gun do you recommend? Thanks!
Good question. I’m never happy with any I’ve bought so i don’t know
Best caulk brand is Tower if you can find it also OSI for exterior applications
@@alibertylover : Thanks!
@@leeb.7188 / The best Caulk is Tower Accelerator /Modified Siliconized Acrylic/ 50 year guarantee.
I want a caulk to fill in on a board and batten wall that's printable what do you recommend ? Wouldn't it just be safe to use a caulk without silicone ?
Is that lathe and plaster? Not familiar with the term.
Board and batten wall it's just 1x3 boards added to a wall vertical and horizontal for looks but it said to put a bead of caulk along the boards
Some of the best caulking has silicone in it. Just avoid pure silicone
Thank you God bless and Happy Holidays
Why do you wear a kilt?
Maybe you have answered this in episodes past but I missed it.
Many times, but it's far less restrictive, much cooler, and feels more like naked than anything, which is my preferred outfit, (my birthday suit)
Tsp?
Bravo Buddy.l
They have GE paintable silicone caulk weed works great .
Yes but it's not 100% silicone, it's a hybrid
@@ThatKiltedGuyDIY still does its job an works well I was a waterproofer for 10yrs ..
Yeah it's a good product
silicone caulking, ohh no
Caulk and silicone are two different things.
What do y'all think of DAP Kwik Seal?
That Kilted Guy, what's your take on it?
I’m planning a big caulking testing video soon
I made the mistake of letting the guys doing my home's weatherization do whatever they thought was best many years ago before I became a DIYer. They ran that da#n silicone around every single window, vent, door frame and crack in my house. I get OCD when trying to remove it and end up having to repair the drywall. Is there an easier way?
Just what I showed
@@ThatKiltedGuyDIY i apologize...I stopped when you were showing the different types of caulk because I thought you were going in another direction and id already been watching your videos for 20 minutes so I went back to work on the walls. I'll watch the rest now. Thanks!!
Ok so they were all the same caulk ...I thought you were comparing different types of caulk for some reason. I'm gonna need A LOT of tape.
shame we need a video about this
I hate caulking !
Learn something new everyday!
Glad to hear it 😎
I have not watched the entire video but I can tell you now, alcohol is the solution to everything. 🍺🍸
i've always said, the only thing that sticks to silicone, is silicone.
Can I use silicone to install backsplash tiles?
Painters hate silicone lol.
I never heard of A Lex caulk
Lol
Where are you? I’m in Colorado in the US
Also don't use clear caulk on baseboard, an old boss of mine made me do that lol
Paint runs away from silicone
It does indeed
SHIT MY BRAIN DON'T HAVE TIME FOR CAULKING !!!!!!!
Nope. Dap Alex is garbage. Dap has good products but Dap Alex when applied correctly will crack in a year or so. You'll need a paintable caulk with a 50 year or more guarantee. I have experience with Dap Alex and I haven't used it in over a decade. The 50 year guarantee isn't necessarily a guarantee but a telltale that it'll last longer without cracking. Different polymers.
I noticed this myself a year ago with some DAP Alex white caulking. I couldn't keep it from cracking, ever after multiple applications.
dude the moral of the story is just use good primer spray can
Silicone caulk is obsolete.
Not at all. It’s a far superior product for kitchen and bath