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he was very talented at driving rally cars, but driving from notes and making them was the part he struggled with most. I think it was Latvala who said he believed Kimi would've been in a podium if he kept going couple more years. Learning to drive from notes at that level is very hard, even guys who came from driving very similar cars in rallycross, seem to struggle in rally
Not just pacenotes are the struggle, driving per-se in rally is another level as well. Almost everything you can do with a car, you will do it in rally. Kimi himself said that WRC was harder than F1 and that "if you can drive in some of the roads we drove this season [in WRC] you can drive anywhere."
Except for champions. I've thought a little different bout notes after the neste rally 2005; Marcus Gronholm drove atleast the half of the NEW stage without notes, when his co-driver hurt his back at a jump and couldn't read the notes after that due to the pain and they won the stage....
What makes more interesting about Grönholm he didnt live near Jyväskylä rally roads like example Mäkinen, Kankkunen, Latvala, Hirvonen and ofc Rovanperä jr. Who have drove it from junior age thousand times and still Grönholm is goat 😎
@@markuskankare3167 I couldnt say it better myself, Grönholm lived/lives in Espoo and Inkoo, a former farmer with a motocross background, who started rallying quite late.
@@kena658 May be true. But still underrated rally driver from finnish drivers. Many finns always say Mäkinen, Kankkunen, Vatanen or Toivonen is best driver ever be.
Good summary about differences between skillsets required in F1 and WRC. Switch from one to another requires not only learning new habits but unlearning old ones. As for Kimi, he did well considering how inexperienced he was.
A detail was missed: Kimi got the Citroen seat after pre-season testing, where he beat Loeb's time... but only after he had driven the same test several times and knew the "track". He never had problem with speed, he had a problem with stage notes, and that wasn't the fault of his co-drivers.
Funny how reb bull absolutely refused to sponsor kimi early in f1 and chose frickin bernoldi over him, but had no problem with the guy after he won a wdc and went rallying lol
There are some exceptions to the rule of Rally-F1 drivers, like Robert Kubica (of course). One might say that he only won a single GP racebutit was a race he spectacularily crashed of the year before - Canada. Just before winning Canada he scored 2nd position in Monaco and was leading for some part of the race. Other podiums as well. If not for the accident, he had a very good chance at becoming a Champion. He did win the WRC2 championship in 2013 though and in regular fashion messed with factory drivers in a RRC spec DS3, like his 5th place finish in Germany. Other notable mention is Valteri Bottas, although he competed in local rallies only, I think.
Then again Kalle Rovanperä is proving that a rally driver can be very fast on track too. He took two pole positions and won the second race on his previous carrera cup weekend. Mind you that it was his second weekend ever racing those porsches…
I remember watching the race of champions contest back in the early 90s and the rally drivers were always the best all rounders, they'd absolutely dominate on loose surface events and precision car control while being able to hang with the tarmac specialists on track events
Black, round. Pirelli. I was so glad to watch his final years as a factory driver and to see him still winning rallies. And that all of that happened with Subaru.
I would suggest you try to add other (even if unrelated) footage instead of looping the same clip 10 times (2:40). It gets dyzzing after the 3rd time. Nice video though!
OIJOIJOIJOIJ 🤣. Also, can confirm about the comparison between rally racers and circuit racers. I recently started rallycross after years of autocross. You have to be 100% on the ball and adaptable from the first run. In rallycross, if you bugger the first run being cautious and learning the course, it will ruin your day.
And that is very much true and a driver who can adapt to all disciplines is the goat of motorsports idc if people say Lewis Hamilton has 7 championships in F1 which is the top of motorsports thus hes the greatest or Dale Earnhardt Sr is the greatest because hes won 7 in the modern era of NASCAR realistic they are the greats of their motorsport a driver that realistically should be considered is someone like Kyle Larson or Juan Pablo Montoya someone who hasn't exactly set the world alight in their starting series but rather proved to be well versed in all types of racing and could be a threat any day of the week
SVG is a space I'm watching, bloke is incredibly talented in Touring cars, open wheelers, now in Nascar, and has done a bit of rallying. I'm genuinely interested to see more Motorcyclists do well on 4 wheels but I haven't heard to much besides Valentino Rossi and Sylvain Guintoli.
I think it would be cool to do an introspective on the Sainz+McRae pairing at Ford at the time they had all the ingredients of sucsess to win but the MK1. Focus stopped them from acheiving greatness
Thank you for this video! This brings to mind Marc Surer and Robert Kubica. May you please consider a story on Wayne Gardner's ATCC/V8 Supercar/Bathurst years?
This is Tommi Mäkinen trying F1: ua-cam.com/video/AeO4R7Mvbvk/v-deo.html . F1 is probably "a bit touchy" and unlearning certains thing might be borderlie impossible for rally drivers.
Well considering many regulars like Katsuta or Gus Greensmith Kimi in his first seasons did exceptionally well, I think he has a stage win to his name as well. Crashing well Tanak pushes way beyond limits nowadays.
I mean WRC is not a joke, F1 has of course way higher speeds but it is on a good road and good visibility and no obstacles, when you see WRC racing from the cockpit on some narrow gravel road in a forest between trees... you may piss your pants even just as a spectator as seems like a crash can be imminent any second. Of course they have notes etc. otherwise it would be impossible to do for any driver, to react to all the twists and turns but it is a mad sport, sadly now seems to be in decline a bit
For a few years (including 2009 and 2010) WRC tried a revolving calendar where rallies would happen biannually. Needless to say it didn't go too well so it was scrapped, that's why Monte Carlo didn't happen in 2010
bro .. i am about to sub .. love your videos .. love your commentary BUT i have some suggestions. sometimes the music you choose isnt really fitting. at some beginnings the music doesnt fit the scene .. when the scene is slower or not much is going on .. to aggressive music breaks that scene or atmosphere. take eighter slower parts of the track or pick tracks that are slower anyway! at times use the music to build up an climax ll ets say you make a cut from a slower video feed to a full send race scene. support that with "a Drop" etc. when you blend out the music .. you dont fade .. you just make a full stop cut! fade it out and then fade it in again. make it smoother! and overall the music is to loud! i understand that you love those tracks .. but not everybody does and at times it feel more like an music video than an "car related" one! i hope you can take this not as an insult .. but simply ideas to make produce a smoother product!
i'd argue the music in itself is alright and a personal preference - but the videos' overall sound could be mixed a little better imo. doesn't detract from the experience, but it's audible.
Dude! Great video you earned a subscriber but as someone who only pays for UA-cam premium and have listened to 1000s of hours of UA-cam videos tighten up the narration editing. Clean up or re-record all your mistakes! Love the video tho!
There's a good reason for the phonk music. In 2024, to compete with stuff like TikTok, you have to make videos ultra highly engaging, so you need lots of stuff going on. Long watch times means the video gets promoted more, so if I didn't do this style of editing, this video might only get 100 views
I know exactly how I made that mistake. I copied the text over from rally Mexico, I remember I almost had Rally Bulgaria labelled as Mexico, but I guess I forgot to change the date with it
@@RJAin Nascar there is 16 roadcources in the top 3 divisions, 6 right roadcources in the cup series, 6 roadcources in secondary series Xfinity, 4 roadcources in the truck series. NASCAR will race Chicago streetcourse this week. , so saying Nascar only race ovals is dumb.
No he didn't, he got a top 15 in his NASCAR debut which isn't bad at all considering there are over 40 cars. He was also running in top 10 at The Glen in 22 until he got taken out.
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For those wondering how his French teammate did: he bounced around from team to team, ending up with a part-time drive. 🤣
Yeah he wasn't really that good sadly, quite sad since he was quite promising
Obviously /s
Then joined Volkswagen and rest is history
Not before winning 8 WRC titles.
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Can confirm we shout "OIJOIJOIJOIJOI" and run onto the road the millisecond a car even looks like it's about to go off 😂👍
You also have that guy with the hat and the rope, who seems to have a sixt sense for where a crash will happen😂
Honestly I'd have the same reaction if I see a car about to get hang time
@@Franko384 grim reaper of the finnish rallies
he was very talented at driving rally cars, but driving from notes and making them was the part he struggled with most. I think it was Latvala who said he believed Kimi would've been in a podium if he kept going couple more years. Learning to drive from notes at that level is very hard, even guys who came from driving very similar cars in rallycross, seem to struggle in rally
Not just pacenotes are the struggle, driving per-se in rally is another level as well. Almost everything you can do with a car, you will do it in rally. Kimi himself said that WRC was harder than F1 and that "if you can drive in some of the roads we drove this season [in WRC] you can drive anywhere."
@@zwjna Would love to see Max in Rally1 and Rovanperä in F1
Kaj said he could have been good rally pilot but Kimi didnt care of pace notes . He tried to drive by eye, but in rally it doesnt work .
Except for champions. I've thought a little different bout notes after the neste rally 2005; Marcus Gronholm drove atleast the half of the NEW stage without notes, when his co-driver hurt his back at a jump and couldn't read the notes after that due to the pain and they won the stage....
@@kena658 Marcus is 7 time 1000 Lakes winner, he can drive it thru blindfolded, he is been driving those roads for ages .
What makes more interesting about Grönholm he didnt live near Jyväskylä rally roads like example Mäkinen, Kankkunen, Latvala, Hirvonen and ofc Rovanperä jr. Who have drove it from junior age thousand times and still Grönholm is goat 😎
@@markuskankare3167 I couldnt say it better myself, Grönholm lived/lives in Espoo and Inkoo, a former farmer with a motocross background, who started rallying quite late.
@@kena658 May be true. But still underrated rally driver from finnish drivers. Many finns always say Mäkinen, Kankkunen, Vatanen or Toivonen is best driver ever be.
Good summary about differences between skillsets required in F1 and WRC. Switch from one to another requires not only learning new habits but unlearning old ones.
As for Kimi, he did well considering how inexperienced he was.
A detail was missed: Kimi got the Citroen seat after pre-season testing, where he beat Loeb's time... but only after he had driven the same test several times and knew the "track". He never had problem with speed, he had a problem with stage notes, and that wasn't the fault of his co-drivers.
Funny how reb bull absolutely refused to sponsor kimi early in f1 and chose frickin bernoldi over him, but had no problem with the guy after he won a wdc and went rallying lol
They sponsored kimi in his first year with sauber.
Kimi just loved driving
„Black round Pirelli“ on Juhas car…
Kimi and Max would have made great content as teammates.
Yes, but how fast Max could have been on gravel?
There are some exceptions to the rule of Rally-F1 drivers, like Robert Kubica (of course). One might say that he only won a single GP racebutit was a race he spectacularily crashed of the year before - Canada. Just before winning Canada he scored 2nd position in Monaco and was leading for some part of the race. Other podiums as well. If not for the accident, he had a very good chance at becoming a Champion. He did win the WRC2 championship in 2013 though and in regular fashion messed with factory drivers in a RRC spec DS3, like his 5th place finish in Germany.
Other notable mention is Valteri Bottas, although he competed in local rallies only, I think.
He also tried Nascar in 2011, this dude was on a roll
Did Nascar again a few years ago too
Well, a famous petrolhead and driver nut, wont suprised he tried Moto too, and piloting and driving sub-vessel and boat. 😂
Then again Kalle Rovanperä is proving that a rally driver can be very fast on track too. He took two pole positions and won the second race on his previous carrera cup weekend. Mind you that it was his second weekend ever racing those porsches…
True, but there's quite a skill gap between Porsche Carrera Cup Benelux and Formula One
Did Rovanperä falls asleep in the track and only using muscle memory to drive?😂
I remember watching the race of champions contest back in the early 90s and the rally drivers were always the best all rounders, they'd absolutely dominate on loose surface events and precision car control while being able to hang with the tarmac specialists on track events
Black, round. Pirelli.
I was so glad to watch his final years as a factory driver and to see him still winning rallies. And that all of that happened with Subaru.
I would suggest you try to add other (even if unrelated) footage instead of looping the same clip 10 times (2:40). It gets dyzzing after the 3rd time. Nice video though!
OIJOIJOIJOIJ 🤣. Also, can confirm about the comparison between rally racers and circuit racers. I recently started rallycross after years of autocross. You have to be 100% on the ball and adaptable from the first run. In rallycross, if you bugger the first run being cautious and learning the course, it will ruin your day.
God I wish those days were back in WRC. We only had two manufacturers, but there were a lot of privateers.
Now we have two and a half manufacturers... and less privateers?
H-How do we have half a manufacturer?
Not that I’ve kept up much with rallying (or broadcasting rights have ever been in my favor enough to do so)
@@Exponaut_R-01 MSport as not fully manufacturer team (not Ford World Rally team, they left in 2012)
And that is very much true and a driver who can adapt to all disciplines is the goat of motorsports idc if people say Lewis Hamilton has 7 championships in F1 which is the top of motorsports thus hes the greatest or Dale Earnhardt Sr is the greatest because hes won 7 in the modern era of NASCAR realistic they are the greats of their motorsport a driver that realistically should be considered is someone like Kyle Larson or Juan Pablo Montoya someone who hasn't exactly set the world alight in their starting series but rather proved to be well versed in all types of racing and could be a threat any day of the week
SVG is a space I'm watching, bloke is incredibly talented in Touring cars, open wheelers, now in Nascar, and has done a bit of rallying. I'm genuinely interested to see more Motorcyclists do well on 4 wheels but I haven't heard to much besides Valentino Rossi and Sylvain Guintoli.
@@AKK5I yeah another driver i would consider for GOAT
WRC GENERATIONS THEMES, love that.
A lot of work went into this. Great video. Good job.
For sure one of the greatest on and off track.
Quality as always
Can you Make a Video about the 1999 BAR01 some Day ?
That could be something worth looking at!
16:25 black round pirelli
I wonder if Kimi got to have the drink along with his gloves and steering wheel
New to the channel
Loved this vid, subbed 🤙🏽
I think it would be cool to do an introspective on the Sainz+McRae pairing at Ford at the time they had all the ingredients of sucsess to win but the MK1. Focus stopped them from acheiving greatness
Could be an interesting one
Skill issue... on Ford's side, the Focus was never the fastest car on the field during that era
Sick music during the rally montages lol
Thank you for this video! This brings to mind Marc Surer and Robert Kubica. May you please consider a story on Wayne Gardner's ATCC/V8 Supercar/Bathurst years?
Can't get enough of that loooooooooop
This is Tommi Mäkinen trying F1: ua-cam.com/video/AeO4R7Mvbvk/v-deo.html . F1 is probably "a bit touchy" and unlearning certains thing might be borderlie impossible for rally drivers.
Well considering many regulars like Katsuta or Gus Greensmith Kimi in his first seasons did exceptionally well, I think he has a stage win to his name as well. Crashing well Tanak pushes way beyond limits nowadays.
what about legend - robert kubica?
I mean WRC is not a joke, F1 has of course way higher speeds but it is on a good road and good visibility and no obstacles, when you see WRC racing from the cockpit on some narrow gravel road in a forest between trees... you may piss your pants even just as a spectator as seems like a crash can be imminent any second. Of course they have notes etc. otherwise it would be impossible to do for any driver, to react to all the twists and turns but it is a mad sport, sadly now seems to be in decline a bit
Surprised I watched the video with my zeptosecond attention span
For a few years (including 2009 and 2010) WRC tried a revolving calendar where rallies would happen biannually. Needless to say it didn't go too well so it was scrapped, that's why Monte Carlo didn't happen in 2010
Pls make the same video but about Kubica... Wherever he goes racing there he is almost one of the fastest as not just fastest
16:25 Was it by any chance Bf Goodrich?
Not quite
@@FailedRacers Bollocks… Nokian tires? Considering that they are a finnish brand
@marjoh669 Not quite again, I'll give you the answer: ua-cam.com/video/eS0sT9P4ZQg/v-deo.htmlsi=J0i2-OeRjOCA254b
@@FailedRacers Oh right… Now I remember 😄
simply going back to his finnish roots
i love it
"The flying finn" is Mika Hakkinen's nickname, not Kimi Raikkonen. Kimi's nickname is "the ice man"
Flying Finn applies to pretty much every successful Finnish driver. I've heard Marcus Grönholm called that too.
First “flying Finn” was Hannes Kolehmainen in 1912. And after that there has been plenty of those and Kimi is included
Well, the Dutch wont like that😂
bro .. i am about to sub .. love your videos .. love your commentary BUT i have some suggestions.
sometimes the music you choose isnt really fitting. at some beginnings the music doesnt fit the scene .. when the scene is slower or not much is going on .. to aggressive music breaks that scene or atmosphere. take eighter slower parts of the track or pick tracks that are slower anyway!
at times use the music to build up an climax ll ets say you make a cut from a slower video feed to a full send race scene.
support that with "a Drop" etc.
when you blend out the music .. you dont fade .. you just make a full stop cut!
fade it out and then fade it in again. make it smoother!
and overall the music is to loud! i understand that you love those tracks .. but not everybody does and at times it feel more like an music video than an "car related" one!
i hope you can take this not as an insult .. but simply ideas to make produce a smoother product!
i'd argue the music in itself is alright and a personal preference - but the videos' overall sound could be mixed a little better imo. doesn't detract from the experience, but it's audible.
16:17 BLAK ROUND PIRRELLI
Dude! Great video you earned a subscriber but as someone who only pays for UA-cam premium and have listened to 1000s of hours of UA-cam videos tighten up the narration editing. Clean up or re-record all your mistakes! Love the video tho!
UA-cam lets me edit videos after upload, so I'll probably fix the mistakes today
Phonk is absolutely amazing
Yeah, but it's extremely distracting when it spills over to the commentary.
Bwoah!
Why is rallying so popular in Finland?
Why is he on a channel called failed racers?
If you have watched the video, you should understand why.
Black round pirelli
Black Round Pirelli
Carlos Reuterman was vary good in wrc apparentally.
Never heard anything about her
Good video, but we need to talk about some of the background music. Might be my personal taste but phonk in the background is really bad.
There's a good reason for the phonk music. In 2024, to compete with stuff like TikTok, you have to make videos ultra highly engaging, so you need lots of stuff going on. Long watch times means the video gets promoted more, so if I didn't do this style of editing, this video might only get 100 views
It's not too bad, there's definitely worse on ig reels and tiktok
by trying to do what others do, and not what you would do, the quality suffers, i cant stand to watch this, even if the subject is interesting..
@@Vemppu_Lutku then don't watch idk man
@@stargazer2312 youre goddamn right
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16:17
Black round Pirellis!
Black round Pirelli
I think rally driving is just as difficult as formula 1 or other series.
oioioi black square Michelin I believe.
Good, but Rally Bulgaria was in July 2010, not in March. :)
I know exactly how I made that mistake. I copied the text over from rally Mexico, I remember I almost had Rally Bulgaria labelled as Mexico, but I guess I forgot to change the date with it
Black round Pirelli.
Juha had back round pirellis
16:24 bro what is that mouth smacking
How fast was Kimi in Wrc? Wasn’t
Alright will Buxton
So tired of drift phonk ruining videos
Bwwoaaaaa
another Hobby
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Sucked in nascar btw
Nascar doesn't take much skill anyway, unlike pretty much every other Motorsport.
@@RJAin Nascar there is 16 roadcources in the top 3 divisions, 6 right roadcources in the cup series, 6 roadcources in secondary series Xfinity, 4 roadcources in the truck series. NASCAR will race Chicago streetcourse this week. , so saying Nascar only race ovals is dumb.
@@RJAits clear you dont seem to know much about the SERIES
No he didn't, he got a top 15 in his NASCAR debut which isn't bad at all considering there are over 40 cars. He was also running in top 10 at The Glen in 22 until he got taken out.