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Thanks for the great review, Scott! I just ordered with the coupon and the Amazon seller is also offering several deals. I picked up a free guitar strap with picks and pick holders with the unit. That's killer for less than $40!
I've now used it on my Sexton bass (with active pickups) and works fine both direct to amp and via the foot pedal. No appreciable loss of tone and far more convenient than the AKG Pro40 PT radio based system I've been using for the past 7 years. Bought another set for my daughter who has used it her SG, Telecaster and Martin semi-acoustic and she is highly delighted. The acid test will be when we play together (once we're allowed to!) to see if there is any interference.
Hmm, on Amazon they specifically state: "NOTE: DO NOT Recommended to Use for Battery Powered Guitars." Update: On Amazon for the WestShell version of this (which is identical also), in the comments one of their reps also states "not recommended for active pickups"
@@squidly2112 This is all a bit odd. I've just reviewed the Amazon page and cannot find this reference to active pickups. I can assure that it works just fine in both my bass guitars with active pickups. I'm in the UK - perhaps there is a different script for their page aimed at other countries.
Well, I just received mine and for all those who are interested, yes, it works with active pickups, I have seymour duncan blackouts and they work perfect, there is no signal loss and it is very very clean, I am surprised, great buy definitely
Thanks Scott! This is the second time that I followed your review and I bought the Lekato wireless. It’s excellent. I have no problems and it’s a transparent interface with no artifacts popping in the signal chain. You have provided so many useful alternatives to expensive equipment that I otherwise would never have known about. The Lekato is amazing! Thanks again!!!
I've had the Lekato WS-70 now for 24 hours. To my ears the WS-70, or more specifically the particular WS-70 I have, rolls off the low end a bit. I also have the Lekato WS-60 (2.4G) and WS-50 (5.8G) and Nux B-5RC (2.4G) and C-5RC (5.8G). All four of those are great. I use them daily for practices, rehearsals, small solo and trio gigs - I take my Sennheiser G4 to the big gigs. I'm using these on bass and tonight I swapped back and forth between the WS-70s and WS-50s and I'm convinced (convinced myself anyway) I can hear a low end thinness. I know words without a RTA screenshot is only worth the electrons this comment floated in on, but FWIW it's one man's data point. I actually like the WS-70. I think I may still keep it. Just not use it on bass.
Just purchased this using the link you provided for only $38 bucks including tax (15% off clickable coupon)!!! I came to your videos knowing only that I was fed up wading through a constant tangle of cords and absolutely dink about wireless guitar systems. I learned more than enough to make a very informed decision on which entry level unit to purchase. Very well done, extremely thorough and informative videos! Liked all three and subscribed. Rock on!
I just purchased this for $30 shipped today then came and watched this video. An amazing deal! My only regret is that I didn't see this video before purchasing so I could have used your affiliate link. Much appreciated!
Really appreciate the time you take in doing these gear reviews. Just got my 1st set based on these reviews (the UHF version). Cool they were already fully charged right out of the box. Wandered around the house no problem. What I did notice was not a loss in volume or tone but there is no where near the amount of sustain you get with direct cable. Can't "ride" a note the same way you can with a cable. So for the users that want that, keep that in mind. Even with amp volume turned up,ni couldn't get the sustain/feedback. Must be something in the way it transmits or ??? Still, for less than $40, it's a fairly usable unit. I have a 5.8ghz set on the way. Anxious to see if the sustain is improved at that frequency
This is the one system that I remember at one show I really noticed the sustain issue. It’s really bizarre that I only noticed it that one time… we did a gig in Miami, and I noticed it. That was the only time. Really weird. But I’m willing to bet no one else noticed haha. And thank you! Thank you for being able to realize “hey, for $40 this unit is great.” It’s so refreshing to see common sense instead of the comments saying “why can’t I go 1000 ft with this $40 wireless?!?” 😅 Just wanted to say thank you for that!
@@ScottUhlMusic I know a couple players that the sustain would be an issue, but for me, that's not my thing although it's fun from time to time. I'm more fingerstyle and rhythm so it fills the need. Haven't tried the acoustic yet. Curious how it would be into a DI (if you know?). And common sense isn't common anymore! Instant gratification and high expectations are, unfortunately, the norm. I enjoy the vids... I'll smash the subscribe button. Thanks for doing what you do...
Thanks! And I don’t notice it much with an acoustic, but I did notice it going into my hx stomp direct from my electric guitar. But I was still able to do the gig with it… it’s was a minor inconvenience if anything 👍
@@ScottUhlMusic so I wanted to provide a little more info now that the 5.8ghz unit is here. For me, there is a noticeable difference in the sustain. Same company (domo arigato Mr Lekato... couldn't help myself! )... the UHF is crazy good at $40 and I have no intention of letting it go but the extra $20 for the 5.8 unit was worth it (to me). Others may have a different experience. No noticeable loss of volume and tone is always subjective. I think these are a really good buy and I completely agree with your advice... get one each so there is a backup. You're still ahead having 3 units at $150.
@@doughayes9141 Thanks for the update! And it's funny you mentioned that, I literally just finished editing my next video that comes out on Tuesday about exactly that... the 3 wireless for $150. I've mentioned it many times, but I wanted to do a dedicated video on the topic. Thanks again for the comment and update!
Alright I bought this one to go with my SWIFF AUDIO WS-50, which works great that I bought on you'r recommendation. Happy as hell yo lose the cord. I'm a rock & roll legend in my basement still going at 67 . I like I can be further away from the amp which changes how I hear my sound. I have 3 amps (1 practise for the bedroom) the cordless is so liberating. I have an old (1 of the 1st) economical wireless, amp input needs to be plugged in with the tx in a pouch on the neck strap (bedroom). Boy what an improvement! Thanks for the info & updates from someone that puts them on stage at a paid gig.
now delivered and what a great addition.!! I shall certainly recommend it. Makes my acoustic Martin sound great and no cable to worry about when on stage in Church.
I finally can write a opinion of the Swiff 70 with my violin. The transmitter works flawlessly, no stutters, easy to just plug and play. About timbre: these have some roll off on the bass side. Nothing drastic and helps get rid of some sub bass. Two things I got to consider, the sustain is reduced, when compared to a cable. It's really difficult to get feedback with the transmitters. This can be good or bad. Other thing, and related to above, the units have some gate going. For some reason, when playing a forte pizzicato in the E string (treble one), the unit kinda compress the atack and make a swell. Is odd, but just something you have to play around. For the price is extremely recommended, really can beat for the speed, sound and reability.
Thank you for this comment! I appreciate the details… and especially about how you feel with the “tone roll off.” Because sometimes it’s very slight and sometimes it can actually be a good thing haha. I appreciate it!
I bought the Swiff branded version (Swiff WS-70) and it worked fine for my Charvel DC-1 with active pickup (super high gain). There was a slight loss of volume, but not significant. The timbre was very similar to the cable. Great product!
Just got these and they blow away the 2 pairs I have from Getaria. Tone was very noticeably better and no cutting out! No hissing or noise! Very happy!!!
My keyboard player got a bunch of these from Aliexpress and gave a ser as a birthday present and I was surprised by how good they were thinking they were some off brand Chinese knock off and now doing some research is good to see people in the states having good reviews of them. We use them on bass, guitar and keyboards…no issues insane product for the price.
@@ScottUhlMusic I know! That’s why I was wary at first but so far it’s been working just fine. I’ve seen colleagues using cheap wireless from other brands really hurting their shows. I don’t know the specs for the ones they’re using but it looks like being UHF does help. At least in the smaller type of shows and venues we play at for now..reason why we went cheap 😅 thanks for the reply. Big fan of your channel.
Anyone in the UK who wants to buy this - beware. There's only two small windows of frequencies other than 2.4GHz and 5.8GHz that is unregulated, and those are 173.8MHz to 175.0MHz and 863 to 865 MHz. Stick with 2.4GHz or 5.8GHz for a cheapie, as a fine for operating outside the unregulated windows would make this and the Swiff quite costly. Thanks for the original cheap wireless review - I've got a Line 6 G50 and a Smoothhound, and a while ago got the Muslady branded equivalent of the Getaria 2.4GHz for rehearsals, and it's been great. It was good to hear a tone comparison between the cheapies and against a cable.
I have two sets of the Getaria units you show in this video. They have never let me down one time. One thing I found I really love about them is the transmitter is black and the receiver is gray. No guessing or trying to stop and read it. Both sets work fine with active guitar and bass pickups and regular single coils and humbuckers. I also just bought this Lekato set because of the shape of the connector. I have an Ibanez SRC6 that I am hoping it will fit. The jacks in the Ibanez guitars and basses is an odd shape. That thin neck on the Lekato looks like it may be perfect.
I bought one of those wireless systems, the Getaria 5.8. Worked great for the first month, won't stay charged now. I have this set on the way I hope it's good. 🤞🤞
I got the Westshell G7 transmitter which is just like the Lekato WS-70 and Swiff WS-70. I have a Martin with an active Fishman preamp and a bass with active electronics. Both of which run on a single 9 volt battery. Yes, these systems work with active electronics.
1/1523. On Amazon, says right there " not use with battery driven guitar". I am going to give it a shot for my Acoustic Electrics anyway for $45 !! If I'm wrong I'll send it back. I am ordering the thin green light UHF one for sure ! Great video, Man !!
Yeah with any of these cheap ones, try it, if it doesn’t work, return it. That’s the best method I’ve established after using these and seeing comments about which ones work with which setups 👍
4:05 For active pups its always a good idea to use a mono jack adapter which grounds the power terminal in the active pup jack. I have been able to use the swiff ws50 with an emg active pup bass (worked 10% of the time) and ibanez active preamp bass(it worked 50% of the time without the adapter).
Thanks Scott. Never had any problems with the Getaria, in Europe, but the battery life was not great. Looking forward to a gig on Saturday with the Lekato.
Thanks. Just ordered this from Amazon based on your reviews alone! Had a Line 6 G10S that I suffered through dropouts for far too long..... and just in my house 😵.
After a week of around the house use, I can say that these are fantastic! No dropouts, and I cannot tell any difference between them and a cable (but I am not a tone snob in any way). Thanks again for your review.
Your videos on these have been really helpful, so thanks very much. I play mandolin in an acoustic band and I use the Lakato system you reviewed in this video and the Lakato 5.8gHz one (which is the same shape as the Ammoon one you showed here). I also use them at home and at jams for electric guitar. They work great and, as you say, are a really cheap way to have a backup in case one band is too crowded. I may get a 2.4 gig set as well, although where I live in the UK both times I've tried 2.4 it was less reliable than the UHF and the 5.8. Anyway, thanks for the informative content. It's been a help.
I'm on my third set now. My first set of Swiff WS-50 did not last long. The connector is very weak and a customer broke it taking it out of the guitar. I replaced it with a Swiff WS-70 which is great and much stronger. I just bought another set for convenience on all day craft shows. I wish I had seen your video first, I did not know the Lekato was exactly the same.
Glad you found one that works for you 👍 That’s part of the “risk” with these cheaper wireless is that more of them can be defective. Mine are still working great, and my singer uses his at every single show.
Once again a great review! I asked some vendors and they said WS50 and WS70 aren’t much different. The battery on 70 last a bit longer. Another vendor said the 50 may have better reception.
Yeah, they both seem quite similar. WS70 is a little cheaper, but both of them are really good units. I actually read that 70 has better reception, but I cannot confirm it. Both of them haven't cut out on me yet
@@ScottUhlMusic by the way do you have idea which one is good with bass? My bassist is interested but he said that many of these small wireless don’t work with bass.
@@joecpwu Is it because he needs ones with active pickups? If he does, you have to always check that with any wireless system. But for bass, I always recommend this one: amzn.to/3bmOFnj
Another excellent review Scott. I've had an Audio Technica Wireless for years but it was ONE MORE thing to set up at a gig so a few years ago I bought the Xvive which has worked flawlessly but like your other review points out, internal batteries are not replaceable and my Xvive is dying after 3 hours or less. I just ordered the Lekato WS 70 and while there is no $5 off it's only $35.99. Thanks again for a great review.
I bought the 50 and the 70, at the same time, for direct comparison. Keep in mind they are Cheap and mass produced. There could be good and bad examples of Both units. Of the two I received, the 70 felt more solidly built, and definitely held signals stronger and at greater distances. Although I planned on keeping both, I returned the 50, because of the signal constantly falling off. They are great for home, but not made for gigging. Well worth the price.
Thanks for sharing! And if you are interested in the best way to gig with these, I suggest watching this video: What Is The BEST CHEAP WIRELESS SYSTEM - Part III ua-cam.com/video/xRmmgrQoHZU/v-deo.html
would be dope if they got rid of the expensive to assemble and inject hinge mechanism and switched to using female ports, leaving it up to us to use a patch cable still amazing for the price
Great informative vid thank you, even though you did'nt mention it you actually explained a problem I have with these which is important to mention! When playing in a band another person was hooked to an "OLD"! Transtec S5.3 wireless set up, as he was finishing his verbal dialogue I turned on my Lekato..... it immediately took him out accompanied by a loud Woosh on the PA. So it appears the frequencies used by the Lekato coinside with Transtec systems, Good news is .... I won (guitar players always do!)
I purchased the Lekato WS70 about a year and a half ago and they have worked flawlessly on a nightly basis! Only one time, the system seemed to lock up, wouldn't pair and would not turn off. I merely had to let the battery run down and then after recharging all was back to normal and has been ever since! I also bought the Lekato 2.4 ghz system that has the interchangeable 3.5 mm stereo and 1/4" mono adapters and it also works perfectly and does seem to actually handle stereo well!
About changing frequency, it says if you click the button on the transmitter, it will switch to another frequency and the receiver will follow. This unit is so nice, unnoticeable lag, feels solidly built, only the hiss noise is driving me crazy, and the swiff ones don't do any better.
Excellent review. I snagged one of these this past week and have been testing it out at home. So far, it has performed flawlessly using it on a couple of my basses (both passive) into my 50W practice amp. About the only thing I noticed vs a cable is a very slight reduction in volume. I have an early morning sound check at church tomorrow and will test it out in that environment to see how it acts around the wireless mics and IEMs.
Thanks for the video Scott! I've watched every video you've posted talking about these plug and play UHF systems. Decided to order this Lekato system to go with my black 5.8GHz Amoon (that I also ordered with your advice!) Thanks for being awesome dude 🤘🏻
Man I'm so with you on comparing tones. Once I went to a friend's house who had 10 amps set up around his garage and he wanted me to sample all of them. I got to the second amp and just said, man I can't do this. You play on any decent amp for 2 minutes and it's going to sound fine. After that I can't tell any more. BTW very informative, and I'm about to pull the trigger on a uhf.
Good review Scott. Glad I found your video channel before buying. I live in Singapore, Swiff WS-70 is going for S$43 (US$32) on Lazada. Waiting to receive mine in 2wks n try them on my Cort HH4 active bass. Have already subscribed to your channel. Cheers!
Great video man! I will be purchasing this immediately! I already have a 5.8ghz unit. It has worked flawlessly. But i like options. Thanks for the insight man! 🤘
Just grabbed one of these from Amazon, based on this video. I have a Boss WL-20L details as my "throw&go" details, along with the X-vive U4 ears rig. While the ears rig works great, it's a huge Wi-Fi hog, and it causes dropouts with the Boss. The Lekato, being in an entirely different frequency range, is immune to the X-vive. I plan to use this rig this weekend on a gig. I will probably test battery life first. To my ears, the Lekato is a tad darker sounding than the BOSS, and seems to drop the level slightly. That said, it's perfectly usable. My mindset with this stuff is aligned with yours. Not so much "does it sound exactly like…………??", and more "can I use this on a gig?". So far, yes. Assuming the battery life is enough to get through a gig, it'll be great. Thanks for this video. I'd have never known about these otherwise.
@@ScottUhlMusic, gig test. Flawless. Typical four hour bar gig. Came home, still had two battery lights on both units. Totally immune to my U4 ears rig. That unit causes my Boss WL-20L to drop out. Thanks again for posting this video.
I had tried this set after another version. But like in the tone signal test you decided not to do, I did find a Big difference, and it is why I returned them. With the cable, you get all the rich tones of treble, mids and bass that are normally heard. These units seem to cut that quality greatly. Now I do understand, folks can say, "Hey, it works fine for me", or "I'm playing distortion so it don't matter ", and I can respect that. But Nothing matches or replaces clarity of tone. My Sure 4T wireless is the closest to bring that cable quality sound.
I bought one. For: It fits into the sunken jack of my Ibanez SR2600 and works with the active EQ. Against: I have a two-channel amp. The WS-70 screeches and distorts on one channel and loses some of the highs in the other. I sent it back.
That can happen with cheap stuff, as I went over in this video: What Is The BEST CHEAP WIRELESS SYSTEM - Part III ua-cam.com/video/xRmmgrQoHZU/v-deo.html
Hey Scott, just a little feedback.. I had bad luck with this set of wireless Lekato ws 70 and the the swift ws 50. Both Sets I fully charged, plugged into my fender bass, non active, and into my yorkville and fender bass amps… both systems with both bass amps gave me a hissing sounds like bacon cooking. I tried the xvive w the 2.4 and had good results with them with no hissing and no drop out… of course, that was only my experience with sets of wireless. My guitarist tried my Lekato system and worked fine.
Thanks for commenting! Yup… that’s what I’ve found with these wireless systems. Some work well with some setups and not well with others. Xvive U2 gave me problems, but a buddy of mine uses it every show and it works great. It’s bizarre for sure. That’s why it’s always important to try it out immediately and return it if it doesn’t work with your setup.
I looked at that one. I don’t think there is a way to change the channel on those, correct? And I wish those would bend so they don’t stick out so much. That’s not the end of the world, but it would have been nice
I bought this (Swiff version), and while playing i noticed that my sustain felt far lower. So i plugged in a cable as a comparison, and was back to full sustain again. What i found, was that the output cut the guitars gain level going into the amp enough, to mimic the sound of the guitar with its volume rolled down to about half.
That does seem to happen with some guitars as I go over in this video: What Is The BEST CHEAP WIRELESS SYSTEM - Part III ua-cam.com/video/xRmmgrQoHZU/v-deo.html
I just bought this off Amazon and it came today. Tried it out and it works fine, but as others have mentioned, the output is a bit lower which translates to less gain/distortion from my Helix amp. I think thats why theres a lack of sustain. Compared it to the Swiff WS-50. The Swiff is much closer to the cable in terms of tone and gain. It's too bad cuz I much prefer the look of the Lekato to the Swiff.
I just got a pair of these based on your review, and I gotta say, for it being my first wireless guitar system I'm pretty happy ! Thank you so much for your review. However, I'm experiencing a sustain problem, like some others have already pointed out. Volume and tone are great, but notes won't even last half of they usually do when using a cable. I play mostly all the time with distortion so I can really tell the difference. Basically I get the feeling that I'm playing with a noise gate effect with a pretty high threshold. Might this be related with the fact that it transmits in UHF ? Maybe the 5 GHz won't have this issue. Anyway, for 40 bucks it's a pretty good deal.
Thank you for this comment! Seriously, the number of people who go “this isn’t a perfect wireless, I’m very mad!” at a $40 wireless system gives me a headache sometimes. So thank you for being logical here! Haha And to be honest, I never had that problem with this system… until one show. We played in Miami and I plugged into my hx stomp and I still remember how I could tell the sustain was just “off.” But I mean, I adapted and continued on. But that was the one time I did notice it, but never noticed it anywhere else. It was interesting for sure!
ROFLMAO I own the Lekato and Getaria units. I have experienced some minor static with the Lekato that I have not diagnosed yet but not often and the sound I get is great. I also use this on my active bass and it works great. Just don't leave it plugged into the instrument if it's active as it will drain the instrument battery even if the TX is off. The Getaria seems great and I have a lot of WiFi signals in my home and studio alone. They both sound great. P.S. the 2.4 and 2.8 auto scan for the strongest available frequency constantly when powered on. I think I will get the Ammoon next lol.
Having one like this (900mhz) and then one on 5.8ghz, and one on 2.4ghz is a good way to get 3 wireless for under $150. And then they are all on different frequencies. That’s how I use these 👍
Great reviews. Thanks for putting in all the time on gear. FYI, I bought the lekato WS-70 and there is a very noticeable hiss every time I play a note (Bass player here). Tried multiple basses (Passive) and multiple amps with and without pedal(s). I can actually EQ the hiss out but I have to kill my mids to do it. No hiss with my old Line 6 X2 wireless, but I desperately want to get away from 9volt batteries, floor power adapter and body pack. (Use in ears as well... Too many damn bodypacks!) I cant hear any hissing in your vids, do you notice anything when you strike a single note? The hiss just kinda rides along on the note and fizzles out when you stop playing. (Tried changing channels as well) Also the volume is definitely attenuated a bit...Another youtuber "Colin" just posted the same issue that I'm having.........Thanks again!
Thanks for the comment! And no, I did not notice any hiss when I use it. Some people say they get a hiss with these types or wireless in general. I would try either this one: amzn.to/3bmOFnj or this one: amzn.to/3a6Ks8s Those seem to be marketed more towards basses and/or active pickups
Same here, just bought this one for an active bass and it gets a lot of hiss, with my guitar I got a little bit and by changing the channel i can pretty much eliminate the hiss. But for the bass it's still there very present. I'm deciding if I should return it.
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If you listen with good headphones you will here the hiss in his tone test (in clean mostly). To me, it's very unbearable, but I guess some people can accept it.
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@@fredericoankh Same. I'm not so happy with it, It's good to have UHF at this price, but I can't stand this noise out. I think I will return it.
@ do you still happen to have your unit? I have the ws70+ plus (the stereo version) and it has the same issue but only when using guitars. If I used a phone with the transmitter no noise at all. Was wondering if you can do the same test on your unit...this issue is making me crazy, this is the second pair of wireless now that i've purchased and tried. Thanks!
Hey Scott. Really love your reviews and your honest feedback. So, I've come down to choosing between this UHF Lekato and the 5.8ghz Lekato. I mainly use my acoustic-electric but occasionally use my electric as well. If you had to choose between the UHF and the 5.8ghz, which one would you go with initially? Eventually, I'll probably get both but just interested to hear your thoughts. Cheers from Maurie
@@ScottUhlMusic Hey Scott. Just thought I would provide an update on this. So I got the UHF version and it works great on the electric... but not so great on the semi-acoustic. The notes are not crisp, they are cutting in and out, and even when I do simple chord strumming, it doesn't sound anywhere near as good and as clear as it should. I'm thinking this may have to do with the inbuilt pickup and preamp system on my Yamaha APX-500ii and it probably doesn't matter which wireless unit I have, it will still not sound great. I'm contemplating adding a separate Magnetic Soundhole pickup or Piezo pickup which may help get over this problem. I'm keen to hear your thoughts on this or if you have any other suggestions? Cheers from Maurie
Hi all. Just a quick update. I bought a cheap Magnetic Soundhole pickup to test my theory and it worked fine with the Lekato WS-70. There was no issue with the crispness of the notes, however as it was a cheap Magnetic Soundhole pickup so the quality of the tone was average and not as good as the built-in preamp system. In summary, the Lekato WS-70 had problems with the inbuilt 'active' pre-amp system that came with my Yamaha APX-500ii but works fine with passive systems like a Magnetic Sound Hole pickup or any standard electric guitar. Cheers.
Hey. I guess your problem would be solved with a so called "buffer" in-between your pre-amp and WS-70 to normalize impedance for wireless transmission.
I love the form factor and battery life on these. It also sound great but I did end up returning it due to a few issues. I noticed, like others, there is sustain problems like there’s a noise gate cutting off any long notes. Also sounds like there’s a compressor which is bringing up the noise floor so there’s an audible white noise in the background which is very obvious when playing clean. Also a strange one with my strat where moving the volume knob creates static noise like a dirty pot. Cleaned the pot and tried with a cable and cheapo 2.4ghz wireless system which worked without issue.
Yes, I had exactly the same experience with these, with the hissing/white noise and the 'dirty pot' crackling from the volume knob which isn't there on cable connections. I returned mine.
Shure BLX will have more channel options and is in the 470-600mhz, whereas these are in the 900mhz. BLX is a better system and will have more options like changing the gain, level, xlr or 1/4", manually selecting the channel, more channel options, etc. Both are good purchases for their price. You could always get this one as a back up or as a portable one since you already have the BLX.
Read on the amazon link that it cannot be used for battery powered guitars. Was planning to use it on my acoustic electric that has battery powered pickup.
Yup. These cheaper ones will have their limits for sure. That’s part of the reason they are literally 1/10th the price of other wireless. I would go with this one for a battery powered pickup: ua-cam.com/video/FtI8tnW5TeU/v-deo.html
Have you got your hands on the Swiff Audio WS-70+ (plus) yet? it has 'Type C' port and apparently 'enchanced audio'. Doesnt look like Lekato have the same yet.
@@ScottUhlMusic I ordered one from ebay in australia today as my first wireless setup. I dont gig so it should be fine at home. The WS-70+ is a little more expensive than the WS-70. could be just due to not many places selling them yet.
I read a lot of reviews on ali. People complain about cut frequencies and white noise. Also it doesn't work well with bass (on a low note). This is about Swiff audio WS-50 and WS-70 (or Lekato, it's the same product). I'm really interested in these UHF wireless systems, but I also see negative feedback - these are real reviews with photos, graphs and comparisons of different guitars. Im not an tone purist, but I would not like to hear such a big difference with cable. I compared the sound with my guitarist Line 6 g30 and it sounds better than cable. I'm a little frustrated that cheap wireless systems can sound noticeably worse than cable.
These cheap ones are hit or miss for people. I use this one and it’s fine, my singer uses it also. My best advice is to try it, if it doesn’t work, return it. If you don’t want to risk it, go for a Shure or sennheiser one 👍
@@ScottUhlMusic I tried one of the cheap systems yesterday (Joyo JW-03, has many analogues). This is not good for bass, it cuts low frequencies too much. I noticed a lot of extra noise and an abnormally high signal level - higher than my active bass. This is not an instrumental volume level, closer to the line level. This is probably what caused the extra noise. I think wireless systems with level control would be a better choice for bass and other clear-sounding instruments (Joyo does not have).
From what I understand the swiff audio ws70 is still different specs to the Lekato ws70. The Swiff audio runs at 2 mili seconds of latency compared to 3 on the Lekato and it has 99 channels compared to 70 on the Lekato.
You will not notice a difference in 2 or 3 milliseconds. And 70 or 99 channels is fine for what you are using it for. Either one should be good either way!
@@ricsimmons5511 Awesome :) Glad to help! Just DO keep in mind that cheaper wireless all at once is a decent chance of getting a dropout/interference. You definitely can make it work... but just a heads up that it's a possibility.
I bought the Lekato WS-70 on your recommendation. I'm returning it. It cuts the volume, hampers the sensitivity to my picking, and cuts the treble. My guitar sounded muddy and muted. I did A-B-C comparisons with my Xvive and Brian Fay units, and this came in an unusable third. It might be an engineering problem or it might be quality control. Whatever, it's going back. (I'll try the Swiff WS-50. Maybe I'll have better luck.)
I’m seeing more comments like this now. The thing is, you will never know which of these cheap ones work with your specific setup. That’s what I’ve found. Try it, and return it if it doesn’t work. It works for me, but not for everyone
Did you experience low output on yours? I ordered the item after watching this video. Sadly I found it had a much lower audio output level then a guitar cable or my xvive u2 System. It wasn’t mentioned in your video, the product description, or any of the reviews I’ve seen. So I returned it and got a replacement thinking my transmitter must just be faulty. The second one had the same low output problem. Disappointing! I still want to get a new wireless Guitar transmitter. But would love somebody to address the changes in output volume. Have you found a difference in output between different transmitters?
Wow, no I have not noticed that at all, so it’s strange you got it with both of them. Maybe it’s with the type of guitar you are using? Did you try the swiff audio ws 50? These are very similar, and I’ve had more people order that one over this one and they all love it. Give it a try? Let me know if it works better for you if you do: amzn.to/3u2dH4G
I got the same experience. at least 3 Db´s lower, but quality of the sound is very good compared to other wireless, and very little noise so I raise up gain.
@@jakp8777 They are meant to be cheap. They are great for their price, but we also have to manage expectations when buying cheap gear which I just did a video on here: ua-cam.com/video/m1iim6aCQj8/v-deo.html But I did just play a few gigs with my cheap 5.8ghz system and it works great!
@@ScottUhlMusic maybe I’m overthinking this, but I just don’t want to look like a fool onstage with my wireless going dead or having interference. That’s why I’m still using cables despite hating them. Considering the shure blx14 because it’s a reputable brand and uhf.
@@jakp8777 If you are that worried about it, then yes, cheap wireless are not for you. Get something more reliable. I bring these to gigs where I try them out at soundcheck, if they work, awesome, if not, I have a cable (or actually have 4 different cheap wireless to try from). These wireless are great for their price point. But if you want a really solid system, you gotta spend the money. I did do a video on The BLX as well which you can find here: ua-cam.com/video/k5OM4GUJNvQ/v-deo.html I think that would be a great one to start with for sure.
I got this wireless, mine arrived yesterday and it´s under the name IRIN, externally it's equal, so I guess it´s one manufacturer and many brands, I compared it with my C-3 and Cuvave(wich you find under Lekato, Muslady, Guetaria, etc) I did a test recording, First thing is than this unit IRIN, is got at least 3 db's less than the cable and C-3 and 2 db's less than the Cuvave, the quality of the sound is for me the better, while the C-3 is muddy and lost treble, and the Cuvave is the oposite witnh too much treble, always comparing all with the cable (a short Fender cable). So this item (Irin, Lekato, Swiff....) is got less volume, but the good thing is that has no noise almost at all (compared with the other two) so a liitle more gain or volume, will solve that. My experiente until now is that none of this wireless sounds like a cable in quantity and quality and I guees this is due to the Analog to Digital conversors, I don't understand why because now the conversor are cheap, but I guess that we still have to wait until this wireless get completely developed, thaks all for sharing experience
Thanks for sharing your experience. I appreciate it. I’m glad you found there was no noise with it. That was my experience as well. As for the cable tone, I personally stand by my tone philosophy of “does it sound good? If so use it.” I don’t chase the exact tone of a cable personally, and as long as I can dial in a great tone, that’s all that matters. Thanks again for the comment!
@@ScottUhlMusic It's not with one particular guitar type, happens with all my guitars and amps as well as the bass guitar and amp. There's a volume drop when using the WS 70. Also, the noise gate kicks in when there's no signal or a low signal. Presumably they built this into the device to mitigate hiss/hum when using high gain amp settings, but it affects some notes when using finger-style picking if you play a note softly.
Is there a model where you can send a signal from one transmitter to two receivers at the same time? I want to split the signal into two speakers (Everse 8) at the same time.
I bought one bec of ur video it rocks! I wanna ask can i buy another one, like i wanna go all wireless with my guitar pedals to amp also. Does this setup work? like guitar > 1 pair ws70 > guitar pedals > another 1 pair of ws70 > amplifier?
If that’s all the wireless on stage, yeah it should work. But the more cheap wireless you buy, the more likely you will run into issues. But 2 is usually fine
This one seams like a good pick, is there a way to use to two transmitters on one receiver? I need two transmitters so I can have my back up guitar ready to go without having to switch plugs around.
It’s definitely a good pick. I do believe that you can do that, you just cannot have them both transmitting simultaneously. But I honestly am not 100% on that since I only own one. If you test it out, can you let me know?
@@ScottUhlMusic just went to their Amazon page, it says you can use up to four transmitters with one reviver. I’m assuming you can buy a single transmitter from them, not sure if they both transmitters pair with the receiver at the same time or if there’s additional steps but I will look into it.
Looks like there is currently a $5 off coupon on Amazon right now as well 🤘 here’s the Amazon affiliate link if you guys want to purchase it. Don’t forget to check the “$5 off” box. Enjoy amzn.to/3s4wLgW
Thanks for the great review, Scott! I just ordered with the coupon and the Amazon seller is also offering several deals. I picked up a free guitar strap with picks and pick holders with the unit. That's killer for less than $40!
Nice!! 🤘
Great review sir👍
I have used this on my Cort bass which has active pickups and works just fine.
Awesome! Thanks for sharing this info 🤘
I've now used it on my Sexton bass (with active pickups) and works fine both direct to amp and via the foot pedal. No appreciable loss of tone and far more convenient than the AKG Pro40 PT radio based system I've been using for the past 7 years. Bought another set for my daughter who has used it her SG, Telecaster and Martin semi-acoustic and she is highly delighted. The acid test will be when we play together (once we're allowed to!) to see if there is any interference.
Awesome 🤘 glad it’s working well for you. It really is a great little system
Hmm, on Amazon they specifically state: "NOTE: DO NOT Recommended to Use for Battery Powered Guitars."
Update: On Amazon for the WestShell version of this (which is identical also), in the comments one of their reps also states "not recommended for active pickups"
@@squidly2112 This is all a bit odd. I've just reviewed the Amazon page and cannot find this reference to active pickups. I can assure that it works just fine in both my bass guitars with active pickups. I'm in the UK - perhaps there is a different script for their page aimed at other countries.
Well, I just received mine and for all those who are interested, yes, it works with active pickups, I have seymour duncan blackouts and they work perfect, there is no signal loss and it is very very clean, I am surprised, great buy definitely
Awesome! Thanks for the comment
got the same setup and was checking for this product if it would be suitable. How's your feedback after 2 years?
Thanks Scott!
This is the second time that I followed your review and I bought the Lekato wireless. It’s excellent. I have no problems and it’s a transparent interface with no artifacts popping in the signal chain.
You have provided so many useful alternatives to expensive equipment that I otherwise would never have known about.
The Lekato is amazing!
Thanks again!!!
Thanks Scotty! Glad it’s working out well for you 🤘
I've had the Lekato WS-70 now for 24 hours. To my ears the WS-70, or more specifically the particular WS-70 I have, rolls off the low end a bit. I also have the Lekato WS-60 (2.4G) and WS-50 (5.8G) and Nux B-5RC (2.4G) and C-5RC (5.8G). All four of those are great. I use them daily for practices, rehearsals, small solo and trio gigs - I take my Sennheiser G4 to the big gigs. I'm using these on bass and tonight I swapped back and forth between the WS-70s and WS-50s and I'm convinced (convinced myself anyway) I can hear a low end thinness. I know words without a RTA screenshot is only worth the electrons this comment floated in on, but FWIW it's one man's data point. I actually like the WS-70. I think I may still keep it. Just not use it on bass.
Just purchased this using the link you provided for only $38 bucks including tax (15% off clickable coupon)!!! I came to your videos knowing only that I was fed up wading through a constant tangle of cords and absolutely dink about wireless guitar systems. I learned more than enough to make a very informed decision on which entry level unit to purchase. Very well done, extremely thorough and informative videos! Liked all three and subscribed. Rock on!
Thanks a bunch! I really appreciate it :) enjoy your new wireless 🤘
Picked these up recently and can confirm they work with active pickups.
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I just purchased this for $30 shipped today then came and watched this video. An amazing deal! My only regret is that I didn't see this video before purchasing so I could have used your affiliate link. Much appreciated!
Nice! And no worries, glad you enjoy the wireless!
I got these for my acoustic and absolutely recommend, so much less noise than a cable, and the tone barely differs too. Thanks for the review!
Really appreciate the time you take in doing these gear reviews. Just got my 1st set based on these reviews (the UHF version). Cool they were already fully charged right out of the box. Wandered around the house no problem. What I did notice was not a loss in volume or tone but there is no where near the amount of sustain you get with direct cable. Can't "ride" a note the same way you can with a cable. So for the users that want that, keep that in mind. Even with amp volume turned up,ni couldn't get the sustain/feedback. Must be something in the way it transmits or ??? Still, for less than $40, it's a fairly usable unit. I have a 5.8ghz set on the way. Anxious to see if the sustain is improved at that frequency
This is the one system that I remember at one show I really noticed the sustain issue. It’s really bizarre that I only noticed it that one time… we did a gig in Miami, and I noticed it. That was the only time. Really weird. But I’m willing to bet no one else noticed haha.
And thank you! Thank you for being able to realize “hey, for $40 this unit is great.” It’s so refreshing to see common sense instead of the comments saying “why can’t I go 1000 ft with this $40 wireless?!?” 😅 Just wanted to say thank you for that!
@@ScottUhlMusic I know a couple players that the sustain would be an issue, but for me, that's not my thing although it's fun from time to time. I'm more fingerstyle and rhythm so it fills the need. Haven't tried the acoustic yet. Curious how it would be into a DI (if you know?).
And common sense isn't common anymore! Instant gratification and high expectations are, unfortunately, the norm.
I enjoy the vids... I'll smash the subscribe button. Thanks for doing what you do...
Thanks! And I don’t notice it much with an acoustic, but I did notice it going into my hx stomp direct from my electric guitar. But I was still able to do the gig with it… it’s was a minor inconvenience if anything 👍
@@ScottUhlMusic so I wanted to provide a little more info now that the 5.8ghz unit is here. For me, there is a noticeable difference in the sustain. Same company (domo arigato Mr Lekato... couldn't help myself! )... the UHF is crazy good at $40 and I have no intention of letting it go but the extra $20 for the 5.8 unit was worth it (to me). Others may have a different experience. No noticeable loss of volume and tone is always subjective. I think these are a really good buy and I completely agree with your advice... get one each so there is a backup. You're still ahead having 3 units at $150.
@@doughayes9141 Thanks for the update! And it's funny you mentioned that, I literally just finished editing my next video that comes out on Tuesday about exactly that... the 3 wireless for $150. I've mentioned it many times, but I wanted to do a dedicated video on the topic. Thanks again for the comment and update!
I found a pair of these at a "bin store" for $5. Was just going to sell them on eBay, but after your video, I'm going to keep them!
Alright I bought this one to go with my SWIFF AUDIO WS-50, which works great that I bought on you'r recommendation. Happy as hell yo lose the cord. I'm a rock & roll legend in my basement still going at 67 . I like I can be further away from the amp which changes how I hear my sound. I have 3 amps (1 practise for the bedroom) the cordless is so liberating. I have an old (1 of the 1st) economical wireless, amp input needs to be plugged in with the tx in a pouch on the neck strap (bedroom). Boy what an improvement!
Thanks for the info & updates from someone that puts them on stage at a paid gig.
Nice! Glad you enjoy it 🤘
now delivered and what a great addition.!! I shall certainly recommend it. Makes my acoustic Martin sound great and no cable to worry about when on stage in Church.
I finally can write a opinion of the Swiff 70 with my violin.
The transmitter works flawlessly, no stutters, easy to just plug and play.
About timbre: these have some roll off on the bass side. Nothing drastic and helps get rid of some sub bass.
Two things I got to consider, the sustain is reduced, when compared to a cable. It's really difficult to get feedback with the transmitters. This can be good or bad.
Other thing, and related to above, the units have some gate going. For some reason, when playing a forte pizzicato in the E string (treble one), the unit kinda compress the atack and make a swell. Is odd, but just something you have to play around.
For the price is extremely recommended, really can beat for the speed, sound and reability.
Thank you for this comment! I appreciate the details… and especially about how you feel with the “tone roll off.” Because sometimes it’s very slight and sometimes it can actually be a good thing haha. I appreciate it!
I bought the Swiff branded version (Swiff WS-70) and it worked fine for my Charvel DC-1 with active pickup (super high gain). There was a slight loss of volume, but not significant. The timbre was very similar to the cable.
Great product!
Nice! Yeah both this one and the swiff audio one are basically the exact same thing.
I found your channel today and you’ve already answered three questioned that nobody has been able to help me with! Thank you, thank you, THANK YOU!!!
Thanks, glad to help! I’m curious, what were the 3 questions? 😇
Just got these and they blow away the 2 pairs I have from Getaria. Tone was very noticeably better and no cutting out! No hissing or noise! Very happy!!!
Glad to hear it!
I just bought one pair and it has this hissing. No hissing with a cable. Can it be faulty?
I purchased these because of your review.... great review. Can't wait to get them in.
Enjoy! 🤘
My keyboard player got a bunch of these from Aliexpress and gave a ser as a birthday present and I was surprised by how good they were thinking they were some off brand Chinese knock off and now doing some research is good to see people in the states having good reviews of them. We use them on bass, guitar and keyboards…no issues insane product for the price.
Nice! Be careful using too much cheap stuff all at once, but glad it’s working for you!
@@ScottUhlMusic I know! That’s why I was wary at first but so far it’s been working just fine. I’ve seen colleagues using cheap wireless from other brands really hurting their shows. I don’t know the specs for the ones they’re using but it looks like being UHF does help. At least in the smaller type of shows and venues we play at for now..reason why we went cheap 😅 thanks for the reply. Big fan of your channel.
Anyone in the UK who wants to buy this - beware. There's only two small windows of frequencies other than 2.4GHz and 5.8GHz that is unregulated, and those are 173.8MHz to 175.0MHz and 863 to 865 MHz. Stick with 2.4GHz or 5.8GHz for a cheapie, as a fine for operating outside the unregulated windows would make this and the Swiff quite costly. Thanks for the original cheap wireless review - I've got a Line 6 G50 and a Smoothhound, and a while ago got the Muslady branded equivalent of the Getaria 2.4GHz for rehearsals, and it's been great. It was good to hear a tone comparison between the cheapies and against a cable.
Interesting… good to know about the UK. 902-928mhz is not allowed there? Thanks for the comment Mike
I have two sets of the Getaria units you show in this video. They have never let me down one time. One thing I found I really love about them is the transmitter is black and the receiver is gray. No guessing or trying to stop and read it. Both sets work fine with active guitar and bass pickups and regular single coils and humbuckers. I also just bought this Lekato set because of the shape of the connector. I have an Ibanez SRC6 that I am hoping it will fit. The jacks in the Ibanez guitars and basses is an odd shape. That thin neck on the Lekato looks like it may be perfect.
Nice, enjoy the wireless! It’s smart to have 2 wireless on 2 different channels 👍
I bought one of those wireless systems, the Getaria 5.8. Worked great for the first month, won't stay charged now. I have this set on the way I hope it's good. 🤞🤞
I got the Westshell G7 transmitter which is just like the Lekato WS-70 and Swiff WS-70. I have a Martin with an active Fishman preamp and a bass with active electronics. Both of which run on a single 9 volt battery. Yes, these systems work with active electronics.
1/1523. On Amazon, says right there " not use with battery driven guitar". I am going to give it a shot for my Acoustic Electrics anyway for $45 !! If I'm wrong I'll send it back. I am ordering the thin green light UHF one for sure ! Great video, Man !!
Yeah with any of these cheap ones, try it, if it doesn’t work, return it. That’s the best method I’ve established after using these and seeing comments about which ones work with which setups 👍
My "corded" wireless died last night after 24 years !!
4:05 For active pups its always a good idea to use a mono jack adapter which grounds the power terminal in the active pup jack. I have been able to use the swiff ws50 with an emg active pup bass (worked 10% of the time) and ibanez active preamp bass(it worked 50% of the time without the adapter).
You're videos are so brilliant. So informative
Glad you like them!
Thanks Scott. Never had any problems with the Getaria, in Europe, but the battery life was not great. Looking forward to a gig on Saturday with the Lekato.
Thanks. Just ordered this from Amazon based on your reviews alone! Had a Line 6 G10S that I suffered through dropouts for far too long..... and just in my house 😵.
After a week of around the house use, I can say that these are fantastic! No dropouts, and I cannot tell any difference between them and a cable (but I am not a tone snob in any way). Thanks again for your review.
Thank you! I’ve been watching multiple video reviews, yours & others. I’m going to try this model after all the viewing !!!
It’s a great little wireless for the price! It won’t work with every guitar, but it really does work well when it does 👍
Thanks Scott. As of today the discount is 10% or $4.00. I just ordered mine.
Since I'm in Denver, I'll try to catch your act.
Nice! Enjoy the wireless. And thanks, hopefully I’ll see you at a show 🤘
Your videos on these have been really helpful, so thanks very much.
I play mandolin in an acoustic band and I use the Lakato system you reviewed in this video and the Lakato 5.8gHz one (which is the same shape as the Ammoon one you showed here). I also use them at home and at jams for electric guitar. They work great and, as you say, are a really cheap way to have a backup in case one band is too crowded.
I may get a 2.4 gig set as well, although where I live in the UK both times I've tried 2.4 it was less reliable than the UHF and the 5.8.
Anyway, thanks for the informative content. It's been a help.
Thank you 🙏
thank you for your reviews
just bought this set thru your link
I appreciate the effort you put in your videos
thanks
Thank you! I appreciate it
I'm on my third set now. My first set of Swiff WS-50 did not last long. The connector is very weak and a customer broke it taking it out of the guitar. I replaced it with a Swiff WS-70 which is great and much stronger. I just bought another set for convenience on all day craft shows. I wish I had seen your video first, I did not know the Lekato was exactly the same.
Glad you found one that works for you 👍 That’s part of the “risk” with these cheaper wireless is that more of them can be defective. Mine are still working great, and my singer uses his at every single show.
@Scott Uhl, thanks for getting directly to the point on these reviews, and for sharing your practical perspective. It is appreciated, and respected!
Thank you 🤘
Once again a great review! I asked some vendors and they said WS50 and WS70 aren’t much different. The battery on 70 last a bit longer. Another vendor said the 50 may have better reception.
Yeah, they both seem quite similar. WS70 is a little cheaper, but both of them are really good units. I actually read that 70 has better reception, but I cannot confirm it. Both of them haven't cut out on me yet
@@ScottUhlMusic by the way do you have idea which one is good with bass? My bassist is interested but he said that many of these small wireless don’t work with bass.
@@joecpwu Is it because he needs ones with active pickups? If he does, you have to always check that with any wireless system. But for bass, I always recommend this one: amzn.to/3bmOFnj
@Scott Uhl what your recommend for bass?
@@joecpwu Works for me on bass. Didn't test in active mode tho, cuz I'm out of 9v batteries.
Another excellent review Scott. I've had an Audio Technica Wireless for years but it was ONE MORE thing to set up at a gig so a few years ago I bought the Xvive which has worked flawlessly but like your other review points out, internal batteries are not replaceable and my Xvive is dying after 3 hours or less. I just ordered the Lekato WS 70 and while there is no $5 off it's only $35.99. Thanks again for a great review.
Nice! Enjoy your new wireless 🤘 thanks for the comment
Awesome review Scott!!!! Thanks for actually USING the product in the real world so your review has real street cred :)
Thanks! I always try to use the products before I review them 🤘
I bought a pair this week on Aliexpress for £17 plus around £4.50 to ship it to here in the UK! That's giving them away!
I bought the 50 and the 70, at the same time, for direct comparison. Keep in mind they are Cheap and mass produced. There could be good and bad examples of Both units.
Of the two I received, the 70 felt more solidly built, and definitely held signals stronger and at greater distances.
Although I planned on keeping both, I returned the 50, because of the signal constantly falling off.
They are great for home, but not made for gigging.
Well worth the price.
Thanks for sharing! And if you are interested in the best way to gig with these, I suggest watching this video: What Is The BEST CHEAP WIRELESS SYSTEM - Part III
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would be dope if they got rid of the expensive to assemble and inject hinge mechanism and switched to using female ports, leaving it up to us to use a patch cable
still amazing for the price
That would be interesting for sure.... I think more people would use it this way, but I’m sure there is a market for that 👍
Great informative vid thank you, even though you did'nt mention it you actually explained a problem I have with these which is important to mention!
When playing in a band another person was hooked to an "OLD"! Transtec S5.3 wireless set up, as he was finishing his verbal dialogue I turned on my Lekato..... it immediately took him out accompanied by a loud Woosh on the PA. So it appears the frequencies used by the Lekato coinside with Transtec systems, Good news is .... I won (guitar players always do!)
Haha yeah cheaper wireless have less available channels, and can get interference. With these you can switch to another channel by pushing the button
I purchased the Lekato WS70 about a year and a half ago and they have worked flawlessly on a nightly basis! Only one time, the system seemed to lock up, wouldn't pair and would not turn off. I merely had to let the battery run down and then after recharging all was back to normal and has been ever since! I also bought the Lekato 2.4 ghz system that has the interchangeable 3.5 mm stereo and 1/4" mono adapters and it also works perfectly and does seem to actually handle stereo well!
awaiting delivery and will let you know
Dude stops to pet the dog.
Righteous guy in my book!
Thank You very much for your prompt reply Dear Scott.....
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About changing frequency, it says if you click the button on the transmitter, it will switch to another frequency and the receiver will follow.
This unit is so nice, unnoticeable lag, feels solidly built, only the hiss noise is driving me crazy, and the swiff ones don't do any better.
Ahhh good to know that! I actually did not realize that. I might have to do an extra video on that actually :) thanks!
i have the swiff one and yeah the hiss is really there!
Excelente review! Thanks for taking the time.
Thanks 😊
Thanks man, just ordered one!
Enjoy!
Excellent review. I snagged one of these this past week and have been testing it out at home. So far, it has performed flawlessly using it on a couple of my basses (both passive) into my 50W practice amp. About the only thing I noticed vs a cable is a very slight reduction in volume. I have an early morning sound check at church tomorrow and will test it out in that environment to see how it acts around the wireless mics and IEMs.
Nice! Thanks for the comment and glad it’s working well for you 🤘
Very reasonable reccomendation. Thank you Chief!
Thanks!
Thanks for the video Scott! I've watched every video you've posted talking about these plug and play UHF systems. Decided to order this Lekato system to go with my black 5.8GHz Amoon (that I also ordered with your advice!)
Thanks for being awesome dude 🤘🏻
Awesome! Thanks for the support, and good choices with the wireless 🤘
Very helpful, thank you Scott.
3 for $140 is an awesome deal and provides back up. Cool...
Yeah, it really is an amazing deal to have 3 wireless for that price point. I’m really amazed it’s even an option haha
Man I'm so with you on comparing tones. Once I went to a friend's house who had 10 amps set up around his garage and he wanted me to sample all of them. I got to the second amp and just said, man I can't do this. You play on any decent amp for 2 minutes and it's going to sound fine. After that I can't tell any more. BTW very informative, and I'm about to pull the trigger on a uhf.
Glad to hear I’m not alone on overdoing the tone comparison stuff. Thanks for the comment 🤘
Good review Scott. Glad I found your video channel before buying. I live in Singapore, Swiff WS-70 is going for S$43 (US$32) on Lazada. Waiting to receive mine in 2wks n try them on my Cort HH4 active bass. Have already subscribed to your channel. Cheers!
Awesome! Great choice and enjoy your new wireless. Thanks for subscribing :)
Great video man! I will be purchasing this immediately! I already have a 5.8ghz unit. It has worked flawlessly. But i like options. Thanks for the insight man! 🤘
Can’t go wrong with another $40 wireless on a different frequency as a 2nd option or backup 🤘
These are the first ones I bought? I feel pretty lucky.. for the money?, I can't complain about anything? good vid brotha thumbs!
Yup, they are quite amazing, especially at the price 🤘
Just grabbed one of these from Amazon, based on this video. I have a Boss WL-20L details as my "throw&go" details, along with the X-vive U4 ears rig. While the ears rig works great, it's a huge Wi-Fi hog, and it causes dropouts with the Boss. The Lekato, being in an entirely different frequency range, is immune to the X-vive. I plan to use this rig this weekend on a gig. I will probably test battery life first. To my ears, the Lekato is a tad darker sounding than the BOSS, and seems to drop the level slightly. That said, it's perfectly usable. My mindset with this stuff is aligned with yours. Not so much "does it sound exactly like…………??", and more "can I use this on a gig?". So far, yes. Assuming the battery life is enough to get through a gig, it'll be great. Thanks for this video. I'd have never known about these otherwise.
Minus "details", insert "wireless". 😎🤷♂️
Nice! Glad you like them! This is a great little system. And yes the U4 has to battle with WIfi which is not fun to deal with
@@ScottUhlMusic, gig test. Flawless. Typical four hour bar gig. Came home, still had two battery lights on both units. Totally immune to my U4 ears rig. That unit causes my Boss WL-20L to drop out. Thanks again for posting this video.
@@leesbassment6393 Nice!!
I had tried this set after another version. But like in the tone signal test you decided not to do, I did find a Big difference, and it is why I returned them. With the cable, you get all the rich tones of treble, mids and bass that are normally heard. These units seem to cut that quality greatly. Now I do understand, folks can say, "Hey, it works fine for me", or "I'm playing distortion so it don't matter ", and I can respect that. But Nothing matches or replaces clarity of tone. My Sure 4T wireless is the closest to bring that cable quality sound.
It’s a $40 wireless…. I don’t expect the most pure tone out there for $40
@ScottUhlMusic I can agree with you, but wouldn't it be awesome, if one of these, at this price could go beyond, just a bit? Bcuz money is money..
I bought one.
For: It fits into the sunken jack of my Ibanez SR2600 and works with the active EQ.
Against: I have a two-channel amp. The WS-70 screeches and distorts on one channel and loses some of the highs in the other.
I sent it back.
That can happen with cheap stuff, as I went over in this video: What Is The BEST CHEAP WIRELESS SYSTEM - Part III
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Waiting on the same unit should be here in an hour or so I'm going to compare it to my Donner dws 3 cost was 100 $ keep u posted thk great vid
Hey Scott, just a little feedback.. I had bad luck with this set of wireless Lekato ws 70 and the the swift ws 50. Both Sets I fully charged, plugged into my fender bass, non active, and into my yorkville and fender bass amps… both systems with both bass amps gave me a hissing sounds like bacon cooking. I tried the xvive w the 2.4 and had good results with them with no hissing and no drop out… of course, that was only my experience with sets of wireless. My guitarist tried my Lekato system and worked fine.
Thanks for commenting! Yup… that’s what I’ve found with these wireless systems. Some work well with some setups and not well with others. Xvive U2 gave me problems, but a buddy of mine uses it every show and it works great. It’s bizarre for sure. That’s why it’s always important to try it out immediately and return it if it doesn’t work with your setup.
@@ScottUhlMusic thx for responding Scott and really enjoy your channel, cuz 'you've been there, done that'.. your channel is much appreciated
Thanks, I appreciate it, and I appreciate the feedback about which systems don’t work with the cheap wireless 👍
I bought the A8 transmitter and receiver from Wish...…and works well....great sound...
I looked at that one. I don’t think there is a way to change the channel on those, correct? And I wish those would bend so they don’t stick out so much. That’s not the end of the world, but it would have been nice
@@ScottUhlMusic yes you can change channels on the A8.... yea its a pitty it cannot bend... but... otherwise... great sound...
Good to know. That one is in the 740mhz range, so that’s a bit different. Thanks for letting me know 👍
I bought this (Swiff version), and while playing i noticed that my sustain felt far lower.
So i plugged in a cable as a comparison, and was back to full sustain again.
What i found, was that the output cut the guitars gain level going into the amp enough,
to mimic the sound of the guitar with its volume rolled down to about half.
That does seem to happen with some guitars as I go over in this video: What Is The BEST CHEAP WIRELESS SYSTEM - Part III
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Now Im gonna get one thanks mate 😊
To link units together small reset button hole on the shoulder of each unit ,no you can play cordless.
thanks for visiting Turks and Caicos and thanks for mentioning TC in your video . thanks for the recomendation
We love Turks and Caicos. That water is the best ocean water I’ve ever seen in my life 😍
I just bought this off Amazon and it came today. Tried it out and it works fine, but as others have mentioned, the output is a bit lower which translates to less gain/distortion from my Helix amp. I think thats why theres a lack of sustain. Compared it to the Swiff WS-50. The Swiff is much closer to the cable in terms of tone and gain. It's too bad cuz I much prefer the look of the Lekato to the Swiff.
Just ordered one . Looks really good for price.
Nice! Enjoy 🤘
@@ScottUhlMusic Works great!! Cant beat it for 40$
@@JEFFERYPAUL1 Yup! It's an absolute steal at $40!
I just got a pair of these based on your review, and I gotta say, for it being my first wireless guitar system I'm pretty happy ! Thank you so much for your review. However, I'm experiencing a sustain problem, like some others have already pointed out. Volume and tone are great, but notes won't even last half of they usually do when using a cable. I play mostly all the time with distortion so I can really tell the difference. Basically I get the feeling that I'm playing with a noise gate effect with a pretty high threshold. Might this be related with the fact that it transmits in UHF ? Maybe the 5 GHz won't have this issue. Anyway, for 40 bucks it's a pretty good deal.
Thank you for this comment! Seriously, the number of people who go “this isn’t a perfect wireless, I’m very mad!” at a $40 wireless system gives me a headache sometimes. So thank you for being logical here! Haha
And to be honest, I never had that problem with this system… until one show. We played in Miami and I plugged into my hx stomp and I still remember how I could tell the sustain was just “off.” But I mean, I adapted and continued on. But that was the one time I did notice it, but never noticed it anywhere else. It was interesting for sure!
It's probably their "anti-interference" system. I only get that in very specific venues.
Got these and love them...
Nice!
ROFLMAO I own the Lekato and Getaria units. I have experienced some minor static with the Lekato that I have not diagnosed yet but not often and the sound I get is great. I also use this on my active bass and it works great. Just don't leave it plugged into the instrument if it's active as it will drain the instrument battery even if the TX is off. The Getaria seems great and I have a lot of WiFi signals in my home and studio alone. They both sound great. P.S. the 2.4 and 2.8 auto scan for the strongest available frequency constantly when powered on. I think I will get the Ammoon next lol.
Having one like this (900mhz) and then one on 5.8ghz, and one on 2.4ghz is a good way to get 3 wireless for under $150. And then they are all on different frequencies. That’s how I use these 👍
Great reviews. Thanks for putting in all the time on gear. FYI, I bought the lekato WS-70 and there is a very noticeable hiss every time I play a note (Bass player here). Tried multiple basses (Passive) and multiple amps with and without pedal(s). I can actually EQ the hiss out but I have to kill my mids to do it. No hiss with my old Line 6 X2 wireless, but I desperately want to get away from 9volt batteries, floor power adapter and body pack. (Use in ears as well... Too many damn bodypacks!) I cant hear any hissing in your vids, do you notice anything when you strike a single note? The hiss just kinda rides along on the note and fizzles out when you stop playing. (Tried changing channels as well) Also the volume is definitely attenuated a bit...Another youtuber "Colin" just posted the same issue that I'm having.........Thanks again!
Thanks for the comment! And no, I did not notice any hiss when I use it. Some people say they get a hiss with these types or wireless in general. I would try either this one: amzn.to/3bmOFnj or this one: amzn.to/3a6Ks8s
Those seem to be marketed more towards basses and/or active pickups
Same here, just bought this one for an active bass and it gets a lot of hiss, with my guitar I got a little bit and by changing the channel i can pretty much eliminate the hiss. But for the bass it's still there very present. I'm deciding if I should return it.
If you listen with good headphones you will here the hiss in his tone test (in clean mostly). To me, it's very unbearable, but I guess some people can accept it.
@@fredericoankh Same. I'm not so happy with it, It's good to have UHF at this price, but I can't stand this noise out. I think I will return it.
@ do you still happen to have your unit? I have the ws70+ plus (the stereo version) and it has the same issue but only when using guitars. If I used a phone with the transmitter no noise at all. Was wondering if you can do the same test on your unit...this issue is making me crazy, this is the second pair of wireless now that i've purchased and tried. Thanks!
Hey Scott. Really love your reviews and your honest feedback. So, I've come down to choosing between this UHF Lekato and the 5.8ghz Lekato. I mainly use my acoustic-electric but occasionally use my electric as well. If you had to choose between the UHF and the 5.8ghz, which one would you go with initially? Eventually, I'll probably get both but just interested to hear your thoughts. Cheers from Maurie
UHF would be my first choice 🤘
@@ScottUhlMusic Hey Scott. Just thought I would provide an update on this. So I got the UHF version and it works great on the electric... but not so great on the semi-acoustic. The notes are not crisp, they are cutting in and out, and even when I do simple chord strumming, it doesn't sound anywhere near as good and as clear as it should. I'm thinking this may have to do with the inbuilt pickup and preamp system on my Yamaha APX-500ii and it probably doesn't matter which wireless unit I have, it will still not sound great. I'm contemplating adding a separate Magnetic Soundhole pickup or Piezo pickup which may help get over this problem. I'm keen to hear your thoughts on this or if you have any other suggestions? Cheers from Maurie
Hi all. Just a quick update. I bought a cheap Magnetic Soundhole pickup to test my theory and it worked fine with the Lekato WS-70. There was no issue with the crispness of the notes, however as it was a cheap Magnetic Soundhole pickup so the quality of the tone was average and not as good as the built-in preamp system. In summary, the Lekato WS-70 had problems with the inbuilt 'active' pre-amp system that came with my Yamaha APX-500ii but works fine with passive systems like a Magnetic Sound Hole pickup or any standard electric guitar. Cheers.
Hey. I guess your problem would be solved with a so called "buffer" in-between your pre-amp and WS-70 to normalize impedance for wireless transmission.
Works fine on my E-ii M1 with active pickup
Right on, thanks for the comment!
I love the form factor and battery life on these. It also sound great but I did end up returning it due to a few issues. I noticed, like others, there is sustain problems like there’s a noise gate cutting off any long notes. Also sounds like there’s a compressor which is bringing up the noise floor so there’s an audible white noise in the background which is very obvious when playing clean. Also a strange one with my strat where moving the volume knob creates static noise like a dirty pot. Cleaned the pot and tried with a cable and cheapo 2.4ghz wireless system which worked without issue.
Glad to hear you found a good one! My advice for using these cheap ones can be found here: ua-cam.com/video/xRmmgrQoHZU/v-deo.html
Yes, I had exactly the same experience with these, with the hissing/white noise and the 'dirty pot' crackling from the volume knob which isn't there on cable connections. I returned mine.
Hello Scott, great video again. Does the Lekato WS 70 easily plug into a Stratocaster style guitar? Thanks Jack
Hi Scott, I bought Shure blx14, it's more expensive than ws-70, they both use UHF wireless So what's the difference between those two?
Shure BLX will have more channel options and is in the 470-600mhz, whereas these are in the 900mhz. BLX is a better system and will have more options like changing the gain, level, xlr or 1/4", manually selecting the channel, more channel options, etc. Both are good purchases for their price. You could always get this one as a back up or as a portable one since you already have the BLX.
Scott, can you use 2 of these units to go from guitar to pedal board , & then out to amp. So 2 transmitters & 2 receivers ?? Great channel
You could, but just remember that the more cheap wireless you use at once, the less likely they will all work. But 2 is usually fine 👍
Read on the amazon link that it cannot be used for battery powered guitars. Was planning to use it on my acoustic electric that has battery powered pickup.
Yup. These cheaper ones will have their limits for sure. That’s part of the reason they are literally 1/10th the price of other wireless. I would go with this one for a battery powered pickup: ua-cam.com/video/FtI8tnW5TeU/v-deo.html
I have no experience with this stuff honestly. But what happens if you keep your acoustic volume at 1/4 max and then turn up the gain at the amp side?
It’s $36.54 right now at Amazon! Just bought mine!
Nice! Killer deal for sure!
Hi thanks for the video. Just wanna let you know that I use this wireless on my wife’s acoustic bass which has an active pick up and it works great.
Awesome! Thanks for the info! I need to get an active pickup bass/guitar just so I can test them out for future reviews haha
LTD F-350 EMG-81 good work!!!
Used this with my Martin equipped with the LR Baggs Lyric pickup and it worked fine.
Awesome, thanks for sharing!
@@ScottUhlMusic Thanks for the awesome reviews.
Have you got your hands on the Swiff Audio WS-70+ (plus) yet? it has 'Type C' port and apparently 'enchanced audio'. Doesnt look like Lekato have the same yet.
Oh nice! USB c is definitely better and if they updated it to work with more guitar setups, that’s great!
@@ScottUhlMusic I ordered one from ebay in australia today as my first wireless setup. I dont gig so it should be fine at home. The WS-70+ is a little more expensive than the WS-70. could be just due to not many places selling them yet.
I read a lot of reviews on ali. People complain about cut frequencies and white noise. Also it doesn't work well with bass (on a low note).
This is about Swiff audio WS-50 and WS-70 (or Lekato, it's the same product).
I'm really interested in these UHF wireless systems, but I also see negative feedback - these are real reviews with photos, graphs and comparisons of different guitars.
Im not an tone purist, but I would not like to hear such a big difference with cable.
I compared the sound with my guitarist Line 6 g30 and it sounds better than cable.
I'm a little frustrated that cheap wireless systems can sound noticeably worse than cable.
These cheap ones are hit or miss for people. I use this one and it’s fine, my singer uses it also. My best advice is to try it, if it doesn’t work, return it. If you don’t want to risk it, go for a Shure or sennheiser one 👍
@@ScottUhlMusic I tried one of the cheap systems yesterday (Joyo JW-03, has many analogues).
This is not good for bass, it cuts low frequencies too much. I noticed a lot of extra noise and an abnormally high signal level - higher than my active bass. This is not an instrumental volume level, closer to the line level. This is probably what caused the extra noise.
I think wireless systems with level control would be a better choice for bass and other clear-sounding instruments (Joyo does not have).
From what I understand the swiff audio ws70 is still different specs to the Lekato ws70. The Swiff audio runs at 2 mili seconds of latency compared to 3 on the Lekato and it has 99 channels compared to 70 on the Lekato.
You will not notice a difference in 2 or 3 milliseconds. And 70 or 99 channels is fine for what you are using it for. Either one should be good either way!
@@ScottUhlMusic fair enough I was just pointing out that they are slightly different even tho they have similar appearance and the same model name.
For sure, I appreciate the comment! I was just mentioning that either of them will work great, especially for this price
These are great and work with my Schecter Hellraiser 7string w/active EMGs fine.
Awesome! Thanks for letting me know 🤘
Works with active pickjust fine ... for ibanez 6 strings bass
Great vid! For live use, can this wireless work well when on stage with several wireless microphones?
It depends on if the wireless are high end or cheap stuff. The more cheap wireless on stage, the more you run the risk that they don’t work
I use the swift one you mentioned and it works great for active pickups.
Yeah I do like that one more than this one. This one still works for me, but I usually like the other one more
@@ScottUhlMusic I just started watching your channel. My goal is to build a setup based on your on the cheap page.
@@ricsimmons5511 Awesome :) Glad to help! Just DO keep in mind that cheaper wireless all at once is a decent chance of getting a dropout/interference. You definitely can make it work... but just a heads up that it's a possibility.
I bought the Lekato WS-70 on your recommendation. I'm returning it. It cuts the volume, hampers the sensitivity to my picking, and cuts the treble. My guitar sounded muddy and muted. I did A-B-C comparisons with my Xvive and Brian Fay units, and this came in an unusable third. It might be an engineering problem or it might be quality control. Whatever, it's going back. (I'll try the Swiff WS-50. Maybe I'll have better luck.)
I’m seeing more comments like this now. The thing is, you will never know which of these cheap ones work with your specific setup. That’s what I’ve found. Try it, and return it if it doesn’t work. It works for me, but not for everyone
Did you experience low output on yours? I ordered the item after watching this video. Sadly I found it had a much lower audio output level then a guitar cable or my xvive u2 System. It wasn’t mentioned in your video, the product description, or any of the reviews I’ve seen. So I returned it and got a replacement thinking my transmitter must just be faulty. The second one had the same low output problem. Disappointing! I still want to get a new wireless Guitar transmitter. But would love somebody to address the changes in output volume. Have you found a difference in output between different transmitters?
Wow, no I have not noticed that at all, so it’s strange you got it with both of them. Maybe it’s with the type of guitar you are using? Did you try the swiff audio ws 50? These are very similar, and I’ve had more people order that one over this one and they all love it. Give it a try? Let me know if it works better for you if you do: amzn.to/3u2dH4G
I got the same experience. at least 3 Db´s lower, but quality of the sound is very good compared to other wireless, and very little noise so I raise up gain.
Жирнющий лайк за обзор! Спасибо огромное! Thank you!
You’re welcome!
Tq for the video bro❤
UHF is pretty unique. Usually the large professional packs are UHF. UHF is supposed to be less susceptible to interference.
5.8 is pretty good, 2.4 is definitely my least favorite.... but yeah UHF all the way when I can!
@@ScottUhlMusic I could only find 1 5.8ghz system at sweetwater and it’s by Saramonic so it’s likely garbage.
@@jakp8777 They are meant to be cheap. They are great for their price, but we also have to manage expectations when buying cheap gear which I just did a video on here: ua-cam.com/video/m1iim6aCQj8/v-deo.html But I did just play a few gigs with my cheap 5.8ghz system and it works great!
@@ScottUhlMusic maybe I’m overthinking this, but I just don’t want to look like a fool onstage with my wireless going dead or having interference. That’s why I’m still using cables despite hating them. Considering the shure blx14 because it’s a reputable brand and uhf.
@@jakp8777 If you are that worried about it, then yes, cheap wireless are not for you. Get something more reliable. I bring these to gigs where I try them out at soundcheck, if they work, awesome, if not, I have a cable (or actually have 4 different cheap wireless to try from). These wireless are great for their price point. But if you want a really solid system, you gotta spend the money. I did do a video on The BLX as well which you can find here: ua-cam.com/video/k5OM4GUJNvQ/v-deo.html I think that would be a great one to start with for sure.
I got this wireless, mine arrived yesterday and it´s under the name IRIN, externally it's equal, so I guess it´s one manufacturer and many brands, I compared it with my C-3 and Cuvave(wich you find under Lekato, Muslady, Guetaria, etc) I did a test recording, First thing is than this unit IRIN, is got at least 3 db's less than the cable and C-3 and 2 db's less than the Cuvave, the quality of the sound is for me the better, while the C-3 is muddy and lost treble, and the Cuvave is the oposite witnh too much treble, always comparing all with the cable (a short Fender cable). So this item (Irin, Lekato, Swiff....) is got less volume, but the good thing is that has no noise almost at all (compared with the other two) so a liitle more gain or volume, will solve that. My experiente until now is that none of this wireless sounds like a cable in quantity and quality and I guees this is due to the Analog to Digital conversors, I don't understand why because now the conversor are cheap, but I guess that we still have to wait until this wireless get completely developed, thaks all for sharing experience
Thanks for sharing your experience. I appreciate it. I’m glad you found there was no noise with it. That was my experience as well. As for the cable tone, I personally stand by my tone philosophy of “does it sound good? If so use it.” I don’t chase the exact tone of a cable personally, and as long as I can dial in a great tone, that’s all that matters. Thanks again for the comment!
Just got these, for me there's a noticeable volume drop using them compared to a cable. Also, there appears to be some kind of noise gate built in.
That can happen with some guitars. Addressed here: ua-cam.com/video/xRmmgrQoHZU/v-deo.htmlsi=QNKqGAnDLwLYoSF-
@@ScottUhlMusic It's not with one particular guitar type, happens with all my guitars and amps as well as the bass guitar and amp. There's a volume drop when using the WS 70. Also, the noise gate kicks in when there's no signal or a low signal. Presumably they built this into the device to mitigate hiss/hum when using high gain amp settings, but it affects some notes when using finger-style picking if you play a note softly.
Is there a model where you can send a signal from one transmitter to two receivers at the same time? I want to split the signal into two speakers (Everse 8) at the same time.
You can’t simultaneously transmit one transmitter to 2 receivers at the same time
I bought one bec of ur video it rocks! I wanna ask can i buy another one, like i wanna go all wireless with my guitar pedals to amp also. Does this setup work? like guitar > 1 pair ws70 > guitar pedals > another 1 pair of ws70 > amplifier?
If that’s all the wireless on stage, yeah it should work. But the more cheap wireless you buy, the more likely you will run into issues. But 2 is usually fine
This one seams like a good pick, is there a way to use to two transmitters on one receiver? I need two transmitters so I can have my back up guitar ready to go without having to switch plugs around.
It’s definitely a good pick. I do believe that you can do that, you just cannot have them both transmitting simultaneously. But I honestly am not 100% on that since I only own one. If you test it out, can you let me know?
@@ScottUhlMusic just went to their Amazon page, it says you can use up to four transmitters with one reviver. I’m assuming you can buy a single transmitter from them, not sure if they both transmitters pair with the receiver at the same time or if there’s additional steps but I will look into it.