When Wireless Guitar Packs Get SERIOUS! | NUX B-8 Wireless

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  • Опубліковано 31 гру 2024

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  • @ScienceofLoud
    @ScienceofLoud  5 місяців тому +4

    Untethering yourself from a tangle of cables with guitar wireless systems allows you to freely roam the stage and beyond. NUX B-8 offers a professional wireless solution with numerous additional features that put it leagues ahead of the basic wireless plugs many guitarists have encountered.
    NUX B-8 Wireless Links:
    Thomann - thmn.to/thoprod/583717?offid=1&affid=367
    More info - www.nuxaudio.com/b8.html
    This video contains paid promotion from NUX
    More details on how Science of Loud implements product promotion - www.csguitars.co.uk/disclosure
    #NUX #wireless #scienceofloud

    • @AndyA1234
      @AndyA1234 4 місяці тому

      What's with the American "Rowter" it's "Rooter". You travel along a "Root" not a "Rowt" like down the M8 between Edinburgh & Glasgow. And I hope you say "Cap-oh" not "Cape-oh"?

  • @kekkonenprkl
    @kekkonenprkl 4 місяці тому +10

    That 2.5ms latency is also less latency than standing one meter away from a guitar cabinet, as sound travels roughly ~0.343m per millisecond.
    Sure, the latency will be cumulative on top of your existing overall system latency. But to simulate the added latency, take a 0.9m/3ft step back from the position you normally stand in front of your cabinet/monitor.
    Now while roaming on a stage, a wireless guitar system paired with wireless IEMs actually give you less overall perceived latency than playing wired and monitoring through a cabinet. Sound traveling 5 meters is already ~15 milliseconds. Fully wireless also provides an effectively fixed latency anywhere on stage, meanwhile wired + cabinet varies.

  • @scoosh.productions
    @scoosh.productions 4 місяці тому +12

    Just a wee comment to say i had a lot of fun and hope we get to do some more stuff together soon! Was a great laugh 😂💜

  • @mdenison2567
    @mdenison2567 4 місяці тому +2

    These look great. I have the NUX b6 sax mic and love it.
    I know it would be more difficult to organise, but I would love to see the same test carried out somewhere really busy, like in a train station or local festival for example, where there is a ton of potential for interference from other sources and see how it holds up.
    Another great video cheers Colin

  • @andrewmorgan1640
    @andrewmorgan1640 4 місяці тому +3

    Caveman pentatonic widdling For The Win! You even wouldn’t be out of place with the name Angus. Love the charging approach too, might be a good replacement for my boss one that finally died! Thanks Colin!

  • @millermonsterair
    @millermonsterair 4 місяці тому +4

    you know, i have been pleasantly surprised with low cost gear these days. it has come a LOOOOOONG way to a point that its actually worth buying now. i wish so much of the low cost stuff available now was available when i first started playing. its just amazing what we can do these days with lower cost gear

    • @flyingrat492
      @flyingrat492 4 місяці тому +1

      Have to say my £100 wireless performs about the same as my £500 wireless, main difference is how fast it connects (not relevant when playing) and the convenience of the rechargeable battery. Budget gear is very good

    • @millermonsterair
      @millermonsterair 4 місяці тому

      @@flyingrat492 low cost stuff has come a LOOOOOONNNNGGG way from when i started out. so much so that it almost blows my mind sometimes with just how good it has gotten

  • @kobalt_ren01
    @kobalt_ren01 4 місяці тому +1

    That looks like so much fun!! Very handy little unit, I like the built-in tuner and clean boost.

  • @Bassguitarist1985
    @Bassguitarist1985 4 місяці тому +2

    So many of these unlicensed 2.4GHZ and 5.8GHZ systems out there, way too much possibility of interference from WiFi signals. This is the exact reason why they are inexpensive. Good for local shows and short distances, but those frequency ranges are simply too crowded. Great video Collin!

  • @adriansperling5012
    @adriansperling5012 4 місяці тому

    Glad to see an outtake at the end of the video again. 😊

  • @klaymeister
    @klaymeister 4 місяці тому +3

    I bought one of these after seeing a few demos. Works as well as my guitar player's Shure GLX.

    • @Miff0ne
      @Miff0ne Місяць тому

      That's worth knowing. The Shure auto switches frequencies, have you noticed it ever needing this at a gig ? I'm only in a pub rock band

  • @acespark1
    @acespark1 4 місяці тому +5

    What if six musicians had one each on the same stage will it keep each signal chain separate ?

  • @KyleBevis-u7j
    @KyleBevis-u7j 4 місяці тому

    The new branding is looking absolutely gorgeous mate!

  • @DanielBobke
    @DanielBobke 4 місяці тому +2

    I wish the B-8 stayed away from the more crowded 2.4 Ghz frequency range and used the 5.8 GHz range that the smaller home unit you showed at the very beginning uses. I have used the C-5RC (the 5.8 GHz one you showed) outside at a small live thing we did and it worked just fine, but the bass player had a 2.4 GHz one that was definitely getting interference from something in the area. It would also be nice if you could buy additional transmitters for different guitars so you didn't have to switch the whole pack and cable when you change guitars (which is definitely a more professional feature). EDIT - maybe that last feature request is what pushes you into the more real pro territory like Shure or other like manufacturers.

    • @ScienceofLoud
      @ScienceofLoud  4 місяці тому +2

      Wireless technology is constantly moving into unoccupied bands, which then get crowded and have to move on again. It wasn't so long ago that 2.4GHz was the least crowded space that people were jumping into to avoid the very crowded UHF, which is now much less occupied.
      It really depends on what other tech is being used around you, and the quality of the equipment used.
      The C-5RC is able to jump between channels to find the most stable, least occupied frequency in the band. If a wireless doesn't have that ability, it will be more prone to interference and cross talk regardless of the operating frequency.

    • @DanielBobke
      @DanielBobke 4 місяці тому +1

      @@ScienceofLoud I think you have to go with an overall approach. In general, 5.8 GHz is less crowded than 2.4 GHz right now. It likely won't always be that way, but that is true for any band that becomes available. The channel switching is definitely a good feature as it helps you find a clear signal.
      I rigged up a solution to put the transmitter on my strap by using a wireless holder and built some cables with a female 1/4" connector and a male 1/4" connector - very similar to the setup with this one. I do like the features with the tuner and the boost and the varied outputs - that probably makes it worth the boost in price.

    • @jamesmendoza4058
      @jamesmendoza4058 3 місяці тому

      Not doubting your experience. Could the battery have been low? Had it been dropped a few times, or smacked frequently while playing? Was it a high quality unit from a reputable source? Could there have been another fault in the signal chain?
      Even with these answers, a sample size of 1 isn't sufficient to say 2.4 Ghz is definitively inferior.
      Either way it's up to the individual to make an informed purchase, I'll definitely be looking into both options when the time comes. 👍

  • @Smurfman256
    @Smurfman256 4 місяці тому +2

    Plug the receiver into your Fuzz Face you made. Those things are notoriously picky about wanting to have *only* a guitar plugged into them.
    If it farts out (and I expect it to), have the wireless receiver plugged into a passive reamp box first. That should correct for the impedance mismatch.

  • @Miff0ne
    @Miff0ne Місяць тому

    This better be good Colin, I have just bought one 'brand new' and I'm from Yorkshire so never normally do this ! I currently use a Boss WL20 , but an sick of the dongle format and forgetting to charge them.

  • @ROGU3L3PHANT
    @ROGU3L3PHANT 4 місяці тому +1

    Wireless kits are awesome but I think wireless should be standard and built into guitars and amps. I would go a step farther and say that the charger should be built into the guitar stand and put the guitar and amp into a low power stand by mode. Then to play guitar you would simply need to pick it up. This would probably not be good enough for larger gigs but if guitar and amp companies started working on this now in ten to fifteen years it may very well be good enough for larger venues. But for the majority of players jamming at home I think this kind of wireless integration would be extremely appealing. A company like Roland should get right on this concept with a company like Ibanez or Yamaha. The next generation of boss katana's should push this sort of wireless integration. If anyone else agrees please spread this idea and get it to guitar manufacturers so they will build this into their guitars and amps. It shouldn't be a replacement for guitar cables just an option that should become a standard for consumers.

  • @conorfowler
    @conorfowler 4 місяці тому +1

    I hope NUX is sponsoring your knee surgeries 😆 Brilliant demo, and clever design by NUX!

    • @ScienceofLoud
      @ScienceofLoud  4 місяці тому +1

      Not featured is the bit where I jumped off that tiny stage and my knees completely buckled. Truly an indication that I'm not exercising enough.

  • @stevecassidyguitar
    @stevecassidyguitar 4 місяці тому

    Great stuff! and Hugely tempting 😁👍
    I use one of the cheap wee dongle ones, but only for sound checks.
    It's a total tone sucker, and it's advertised 3ms latency is BS and massively noticeable.
    This NUX guy looks legit 😎👍 and Kudos for getting oot the hoose 👊

  • @DeadorRed
    @DeadorRed 4 місяці тому

    Wayyyy AwesomE for the active artist just remember head mount microphone placement"heavy breathing"🔥😈🎸 bro

  • @Burbund
    @Burbund 4 місяці тому

    Kinda wish they made bigger model of that where transmiter also gives You ability to plug in ear monitors

  • @slaytallica136
    @slaytallica136 4 місяці тому

    If you want to go the less professional route, AM transmitters are fun to use on guitars. You can tune any radio to hear signal and easily make weird speaker arrays.

  • @Miff0ne
    @Miff0ne Місяць тому

    Well, I'm sending mine back. The base unit is great, the tuner is clear and the 'boost' button sounds amazing, but.... the transmitter cut out twice in front of an audience of about 300 people at our gig. Red light instead of green for about 5 seconds. Not good enough, soz.

  • @mcswordfish
    @mcswordfish 4 місяці тому +3

    It's not true wireless demo till you've played a solo from the bogs, though depending on the size of the venue, you might need in-ears too

    • @ScienceofLoud
      @ScienceofLoud  4 місяці тому +3

      I knew there was something we forgot to film...

  • @Miff0ne
    @Miff0ne Місяць тому

    Colin, it seems you had your nose a little too far up NUX's arse to notice a couple ( actually 4 ) issues with the system. ;)
    1. The guitar connector lead to the transmitter is a 3mm plug/socket, I don't think this will last long in a gig environment, not helped by....
    2. With the lead connected to the transmitter and docked on the receiver, the cable will hang off the edge of any pedalboard, so will need to be unscrewed each time you pack away. ..
    3. It's a straight connector into the guitar, I like an angled, but can't see an option to buy one, so I'll have to cut the straight connector off and change it ( if I don't send the unit back)
    4. Last but maybe most important, the tuner is out by -3.3cent compared to my Quad cortex (and £5 clip on). Yes they are all set at 440.0 and the error only seems to be on one of the circular modes, the horizontal mode seems OK. Minimal I know, but being digital they should all match up surely.
    Have a second look at these issues and let me know what you think. Otherwise it seems a good unit, I love the boost facility which effectively adds an extra channel to any amp and I'll be gigging it in about 10 days and reporting back .... stay safe buddy....

    • @ScienceofLoud
      @ScienceofLoud  Місяць тому

      @Miff0ne the first 3 points are not issues, they are preferences. You prefering something different doesn't make it a design flaw with the product. None of these things are issues.
      And to point 4 - I don't sit around comparing different tuners to each other and graphing their cent differences to 2 significant figures. I'm not about to waste my time verifying your claim.
      Anyway, i think you'd probably have a stroke if you realised how much more than 3.3 cents every instrument is out from the next in the vast majority of all live and recorded music ever made.
      I would suggest you are digging a little too deep in an attempt to find fault here.

    • @Miff0ne
      @Miff0ne Місяць тому +1

      @ScienceofLoud hmm you are probably correct about 4. But the 3mm connector might a bit of a let down, let's see how she gigs :)

  • @ArjunR777
    @ArjunR777 4 місяці тому

    Someone needs to validate how these perform with active pickup guitars. I have the Nux B-5RC which does a great job except it introduces a slight noise when used with active pickups/preamps. And that gets much worse with hi-gain pedal chains. Nothing that can't be handled by controlling your volume when not playing, but no one seems to have called it out... Also, if you have a bunch of bluetooth systems (such as those found in newer portable PA speakers) and/or wireless in-ear monitors around you, the range gets a massive hit. Hopefully removing the Tx from the guitar body solves for some of these problems.

  • @yakfishin4912
    @yakfishin4912 4 місяці тому

    Cool idea

  • @ScottStieg
    @ScottStieg 4 місяці тому

    Great demo! Should we be concerned with interference at 2.4GHz and not UHF or 5.8GHz? Other than that, it seems great

  • @reverendtos4271
    @reverendtos4271 4 місяці тому

    I grabbed one early on, and so far it works a treat and seems well made. I've done a few gigs with it. However, there is no option to buy a spare transmitter cable, and a standard one from Line6, which has the same plugs, doesn't work. I mentioned this on their FB page, and someone from the compnay said they would be available soon, but that was 6 or 7 months ago. I can't take it on tour unless I can bring a spare cable for it :(

    • @ScienceofLoud
      @ScienceofLoud  4 місяці тому +2

      I've just buzzed it out on the multimeter to confirm: It's a completely standard 6.35mm to 3.5mm mono TS jack cable. You can buy them very cheaply on online, or even solder one together yourself.
      Here's an amazon link: www.amazon.co.uk/kenable-3-5mm-MONO-6-35mm-Cable-Black/dp/B06XXQ3CD3
      I have no idea what cable the Line 6 systems use, but assuming it is also a 6.35 to 3.5 type and that isn't working: it's likely that the 3.5mm side is TRS and they've wired the signal to the Ring just to be a pain, making their cables proprietary so you have to buy replacements from them.

    • @reverendtos4271
      @reverendtos4271 4 місяці тому

      @@ScienceofLoud I've tried 2 different ones but neither worked. I'll def give it another try though. Thanks :)

    • @ScienceofLoud
      @ScienceofLoud  4 місяці тому +1

      For the sake of experiment I just took a 3.5mm stereo AUX cable, slapped a 6.35 TRS convertor onto one side of it, and hooked up a guitar to the transmitter with that: Worked perfectly.
      I am 100% certain that ANY standard tip to tip wired TS or TRS cable will do the job.
      Just NOT a TS to TRS, because the tip of the TS will go to both the Tip and Ring of the TRS, and the Ring will short to ground in the socket, taking the whole signal with it.

    • @reverendtos4271
      @reverendtos4271 4 місяці тому

      @@ScienceofLoud Awesome. Thanks very much \m/

    • @Miff0ne
      @Miff0ne Місяць тому

      I like an angled plug, so I'll follow Colin's links and see if someone does one...

  • @DeformedDevices
    @DeformedDevices 21 день тому

    Do these work with fuzz pedals that really need to be at the front of a pedal chain?

    • @ScienceofLoud
      @ScienceofLoud  21 день тому +1

      Wireless units, by their nature, are separating the high impedance pickup signal from the rest of the chain.
      If you have an old school fuzz pedal that sees the high impedance pickup as part of its circuit, then using a wireless unit before it is going to give you different performance from the fuzz.
      This will act like any other buffered effect.

    • @DeformedDevices
      @DeformedDevices 21 день тому

      @ScienceofLoud Thanks for the answer Colin. That's kind of what I assumed. I literally build old school fuzz pedals so I think I'll hold off on this system

  • @jeffreygout
    @jeffreygout 4 місяці тому

    Which part of a guitar amplifier is directly responsible for determining the wattage rating, and is it possible to upgrade it (Such as turning a 30 watt amp into a 120 watt amp) without having to reimagine the entire amplifier circuit?

    • @Miff0ne
      @Miff0ne Місяць тому

      no, it's not possible. like you cant make a V8 out of a Prius...

  • @TheGaryHughes
    @TheGaryHughes 4 місяці тому +1

    "that yer age startin tae show" hahaha

  • @gorbrushthreepwood
    @gorbrushthreepwood 4 місяці тому

    "We dooooo! We dooooo!"

  • @LeeLeifheit
    @LeeLeifheit 4 місяці тому

    might want to switch to decaf in the afternoon mate, other than that great vid

  • @datalanda.s5539
    @datalanda.s5539 3 місяці тому

    Friends; I’ve recently bought one. It sucks. The signal continuously drops. I’ve tried the find out whether there is a pattern/interval but there is none. I have a cheap (one third of the cost of Nux) wireless system which works perfectly. Fyi

  • @andrew6889-p5c
    @andrew6889-p5c 4 місяці тому

    In terms of sound quality and latency, what’s the difference from their cheaper units? Is it noticeable?

    • @ScienceofLoud
      @ScienceofLoud  4 місяці тому

      Nothing that I could notice - that technology is so well established now, even the cheaper units are matching the quality and latency.
      The main difference is the features, the form factor, and usability. I'd much rather be using the B-8 over the C-5RC purely for the way it integrates with the pedalboard - even if I can't perceive any audible difference.

  • @br5183
    @br5183 4 місяці тому

    Hey Colin, your Thomann link is broken...

    • @ScienceofLoud
      @ScienceofLoud  4 місяці тому

      They are connecting through just fine on my end: thmn.to/thoprod/583717?offid=1&affid=367

  • @BrankyMusic
    @BrankyMusic 3 місяці тому

    Would you say this has a better SOUND than the simpler systems?

    • @ScienceofLoud
      @ScienceofLoud  3 місяці тому

      No, the sounds are equivalent. That side of the technology is very well established at this point - they all should be indistinguishable from cables in terms of sound.
      It's the features, the integration, and convenience that make is a more attractive option compared to the simpler systems.

    • @BrankyMusic
      @BrankyMusic 3 місяці тому

      @@ScienceofLoud I mean I have an Xvive U2 system and I think the wireless sound is worse than cabled

    • @ScienceofLoud
      @ScienceofLoud  3 місяці тому

      @WalterBranky that might be an issue with Xvive. I've never had any hands-on experience with their wireless products.

    • @Miff0ne
      @Miff0ne Місяць тому

      @@BrankyMusic agreed, I sold my Xvive system, awful dropout when blocked by my arse

  • @nickgjenkins
    @nickgjenkins 4 місяці тому +1

    This wireless system is responsible (or rather all of the videos talking about it are responsible) for informing me I'd been mispronouncing NU*X. I'd been saying "Nux." Now I'm embarrassed to find out it's "New X." Well, I guess you learn something new all the time.

    • @ScienceofLoud
      @ScienceofLoud  4 місяці тому +3

      When I first started working with NUX, they sent me a pronunciation guide to ensure I didn't make the same mistake

  • @ramziel
    @ramziel 4 місяці тому

    Never used wireless systems before but thinking of buying one. I've read about the cheaper Nux that it doesn't translate volume swells properly, is that true?

    • @ScienceofLoud
      @ScienceofLoud  4 місяці тому +1

      I certainly didn't encounter any issues like that, rolling back on the volume and swelling in didn't cause any problems that I could notice.
      I don't see any reason for that to be the case either - if there were issues with bit depth not being able to properly represent changing signal levels it would be happening all the time, not just on volume swells.

    • @ramziel
      @ramziel 4 місяці тому

      @@ScienceofLoud could an analog part of the system affect the volume taper?

  • @chrisdaviesguitar
    @chrisdaviesguitar 4 місяці тому

    a post on how DI and re amping works would be good.

    • @ScienceofLoud
      @ScienceofLoud  4 місяці тому +1

      Oh, I already made that video - and very few people watched it: ua-cam.com/video/YD_O7-dSYmk/v-deo.html

    • @JWBails
      @JWBails 4 місяці тому

      @@ScienceofLoud I did!

    • @mickavoidant4780
      @mickavoidant4780 4 місяці тому

      ​@@ScienceofLoud I watched it

  • @xiaokang8692
    @xiaokang8692 4 місяці тому

    I have several NUX's products. Always, after some time, I got slightly unhappy with NUX performance.

    • @Monkcustom
      @Monkcustom 4 місяці тому

      Which product did you use?

    • @xiaokang8692
      @xiaokang8692 4 місяці тому

      @@Monkcustom mighty combo, multieffect MG20 (gave it away for free), drive force pedal (this seems to be not bad), tiny wireless ,...

    • @Monkcustom
      @Monkcustom 4 місяці тому

      @@xiaokang8692@xiaokang8692 Try the new staff; the current ones are pretty good.

  • @mingxiao7396
    @mingxiao7396 4 місяці тому

    2.4G only? no option to switch to 5G? I'm afraid if there's a wireless 2.4G router nearby, both the guitar wireless system and router will stop working. Have tried quite a few 2.4G guitar systems, none passed the test.

    • @Monkcustom
      @Monkcustom 4 місяці тому

      The B-8 has an auto-hopping technology algorithm to avoid RF interference. BTW, it uses 1MHz bandwidth, so it also helps against the interference.

    • @Miff0ne
      @Miff0ne Місяць тому

      @@Monkcustom really ? the book says you have to manually retune

    • @Monkcustom
      @Monkcustom Місяць тому

      @@Miff0ne It's true. That's the main feature and why B-8 is even more stable than Shuxx.

  • @CryHavoc013
    @CryHavoc013 4 місяці тому

    Only concern I have about these digital wireless systems is not range but rather interference from e.g. half of audience trying to connect to club Wi-Fi.

    • @Miff0ne
      @Miff0ne Місяць тому

      usually other wireless units that affect 'em

  • @ChrisEck13
    @ChrisEck13 4 місяці тому

    From the reviews on Thomann it looks like these have been problematic. Theres only a few reviews and it looks like about half of them are stating that their signal kept cutting out at times.

    • @lidbass
      @lidbass 2 місяці тому

      Yeah, that’s what stopping me from buying one. I love the extras on the pedal, but I think I’ll wait to see if they make a new version at 5.8 GHz.

  • @damasterkarej
    @damasterkarej 4 місяці тому +2

    Sounds like some nux bait.

  • @Exeunt-philae
    @Exeunt-philae 4 місяці тому +2

    STONECUTTERS

  • @houseofshred3725
    @houseofshred3725 4 місяці тому

    Is commercial, but good commercial, yah?

    • @ScienceofLoud
      @ScienceofLoud  4 місяці тому +1

      People buy equipment, it's better they buy it well informed - That's what I'm here to do: Show you my experiences and what I was able to do with it.

  • @brotatoe3299
    @brotatoe3299 4 місяці тому

    Was this video sponsored or the wireless kit provided free of charge? I typically love your stuff, but this a bit shill-ish for me. I know a man's gotta eat, but at least disclose it.

    • @ScienceofLoud
      @ScienceofLoud  4 місяці тому

      It is disclosed: at the start of the video with UA-cam's official "contains paid promotion" feature, and a written disclosure in the description itself.
      There you will also find a link to my website with discusses how I handle disclosure: www.csguitars.co.uk/disclosure
      I expect my audience to pay attention to onscreen elements and to seek additional information in the description if they need clarification on anything.
      I spend time ensuring all of these elements are in place, please do not lay the blame on me because you did not notice them.

    • @brotatoe3299
      @brotatoe3299 4 місяці тому

      @@ScienceofLoud you got me there man, my bad

  • @Unclemyro
    @Unclemyro 4 місяці тому

    updated software, still drop outs,,I wasted my money,,

  • @itsisaacfr
    @itsisaacfr 4 місяці тому

    33 seconds ago is crazy

  • @Unclemyro
    @Unclemyro 4 місяці тому

    drop outs,,, this unit suck