I used Xvive with serious dropout at home. You previous video inspired me what to look for and I found Swiff and bought it a few weeks ago. Thanks for your very detailed comparison and inspiration to me. The Swiff system is amazing, dead silent without any noise or dropout again. I highly recommend it to all my friends now.
@Bullets ForTeeth oh really, are you sure it’s the same? I wondered what the difference was as I found those on eBay too and wondered the difference. Have you got them and are they stable?
I bought these in May of 2020 and my friends thought I was nuts because they had never heard of it. But I analyze things and don't just buy what everyone else has. When I checked the product specs I liked what I saw and decided there would be no interference issue at almost anywhere I could imagine. I have played for 4.5 hours and still had battery life left on the indicator mark it was at light #2 which is half. But it's feasible that the battery life was about to jump to the next level lower. Anyway, I have not had one drop out or noise of any kind. Use it on electric and acoustic-electric and it is as reliable and good sounding as any cable. I only wish the device that plugs into the guitar was smaller. But they are all relatively large and in time I'm sure like everything it will get smaller. :-)
I just got these today, after watching a few of your videos. I bought them because you mentioned that these will work with active pickups. I can confirm these work with active pickups. They work fine with my '87 Charvel Model 4. Thanks for the video(s) on wireless systems Scott. I had no idea what I was doing and these fit the bill just fine. People just have to realize they ARE buying a $50 system. In the world of Amazon people expect high quality for a cheap price. Things don't work that way. I play down my basement and for $50 bucks these things are great. No hiss, no noticeable latency.
Hope you guys enjoyed the video. Also, right after posting it, I noticed that Lekato actually has one of these that transmit NOT on 2.4 or 5.8, but it doesn't say which frequency it transmits on. However, it's only $42. I haven't tried it though. Has anyone tried this model? amzn.to/3s4wLgW How well did it work for you? Cheers 🤘Also, don't forget to watch my other "master" video on these plug-and-play wireless systems here: ua-cam.com/video/A2183MfZWgQ/v-deo.html
Hi Scott I ordered this and recieved it today. I was hoping it would be different than the swiff ones but I encountered the same exact problem I mentioned before. The notes that cut out are sounding like they were highly compressed when they're picked hard and like I mentioned before it only happens on the neck pickup. I'm returning it and will be exchanging it for the Rowin 2.4g one.
I was looking @ those! A lil cheaper right?! But since I had good success w/the Swiff’s I’ll probably continue with them. Also, if I sit or kick another pair, I can scavenge from my existing boneyard of Swiff unit’s to make another pair…again😭
I have to assume the Lekato, is the same as the Westshell wireless G7 that is on lightning deal today...and also the Swiff WS-70 model. This is good and bad. The good being that all brands review really well...the bad being that I just ordered the Westshell (since it was on lightning deal) but then realized the Lekato (@ $42) has a 15% off coupon, and the Swiff is $42 with an 8% coupon...thus making the Westshell the most expensive of all 3 despite the lightning deal. Well, if you want to add the Lekato to your collection, now is the time to do it.
@@affordabletechsolutions6917 I actually got one a few weeks ago haha, but I'll be doing a video on it next week sometime (I want to use it at my gigs this weekend first). So far it's great
@@affordabletechsolutions6917 funny you should say that. I just found this video after getting my westshell G7's this week. I plugged them in this morning, and I'm happy with what I'm hearing so far, but it's going to take more trials. Also, our band's wireless mic system runs on UHF frequencies, so we'll see if there is any interference in that aspect.
it is simply INCREDIBLE quality of a video... thank you so much I wasn't expecting someone to be that dedicated to put quality explanation of these so entertaining even!
Picked up a set of these to try out a few days ago. The reviews here and elsewhere were mixed regarding compatibility with active pickups but I figured for $50 it was worth a shot. They worked flawlessly with passives, but unfortunately did not play well at all with my active pickup guitar (EMG 81/85 @9v). When I first plugged in and strummed a few chords it sounded OK so I had high hopes, but as soon as I started playing anything that involved aggressive low string palm muting it started cutting out. My best guess going off what I was hearing through my speakers is that there's some sort of gate in the system that gets hit only when chugging away with higher output actives. If I rolled off the volume pot on the guitar and/or played with a VERY light touch I could get it to go away. I think that's where some of the confusion on whether or not these work with actives comes from. If you have a lower output active system and/or play a style of music that has little to no palm muting these may work. If you're using EMGs or the equivalent doing aggressive metal or metal-adjacent stuff these probably aren't for you. They're 3x the price and on a different frequency band, so it's not a direct comparison, but FWIW the NU-X C5-RC has worked flawlessly with my actives and anything else I've plugged it into. And thanks Scott for all the info on this channel. Seriously helpful!
Thank you for the details in this comment! I really appreciate it, and I hope this answers the questions for some people who watch this video as well! Really appreciate it 🤘🤘
Fantastic reviews on all of the wireless system you've covered. I like that you only talk about what you know through use and also how you give sound recommendations that are based on your research and logic. And your GIFs in the videos are fitting and funny AF. Thanks
I realize this video is already 2 years old, but I just bought this wireless system based on your recommendation and I have NOT been disappointed. The range is great, its crystal clear and good battery life. Can't beat that for $50. Thanks!
Thanks for doing a review on UHF systems. I've been out of music for almost 20 years, but was invited to play a set at jazzfest in New Orleans in early May. At 67, it's probably the last real show I'll ever play, so I accepted the offer and pulled out my old Precisions and bought some strings. I was a wireless guy, but no longer have the old system I did in the early 90s. It never worked anywhere in Atlanta, Denver, NY, DC, or some other larger cities in the States or Europe. A little research suggested that 2.4 might not be the optimal frequency to use if I don't want to be tethered. This video helps a lot. THANK YOU!! Sounds like UHF is the way to go.
Thanks! And also buying higher end wireless definitely helps too. I do suggest watching this video as well: ua-cam.com/video/xRmmgrQoHZU/v-deo.htmlsi=K9HUWn4SKi9C4C7D Hope that helps!
I've had the Lekato ws-50 (5.8 GHz) for just over a year and never had a problem, however, I HAVE forgotten to charge them and had to fall back to a cable because of that. I like the idea of buying these for redundancy and having the option to try a different band if I ever do have issues. Great advice!
The problem with these UHF systems is that they all seem to have a built in noise gate that can't be turned off, and many amazon reviews of the swiff explain that. I have the lekato UHF system and it does the exact same thing. It makes playing at low volumes really annoying because the audio will cut out, and even on the attack of some notes the audio will cut off the transients too. I could hear it on your distorted test, where the audio was cutting in on the transients.
I just shot a video about this. My advice… you are shopping in the most budget part of the store for wireless. Don’t want to mess around with cheap stuff? Save up and buy an entry level Shure or sennheiser system. These work well for me, but it doesn’t sound like you are having much luck with them.
I know I'm late to the game here. But I bought these a couple of months ago because of this review. And I have to say I'm quite impressed. As a bass player it seems the low end on other wireless systems just "shelf" off around 400k. But not these. I use a modern bass with modern pickups. I do not hear any difference between this system or cabled. Good call Scott. Thanks for keeping it real for us broke-a$$ musicians. Now.... I have some catching up to do with your channel.....
Awesome! I just ordered it. I'm with you in that I'm really getting obsessed about avoiding all cables. I would invest in any system (microphones included), as long as it is rechargeable, reliable, and sounds good.
Nice! Welcome to the no cable club 💪 just be careful with using too much cheap wireless all at once if you want to get rid of all cables. Watch this video for a guide for buying wireless and how many are on stage at once: Choosing the Right WIRELESS SYSTEM - A Comprehensive Guide ua-cam.com/video/Xi2JcMomjQ0/v-deo.html
Picked up these today after my Line6 G10 died last night. The transmitter overheated and now it and the base just blink red. These were recommended as a replacement. Much cheaper to buy these than replace the Line6 transmitter!
BTW, there are a number of apps you can download on your phone the will "show" you the RF environment where you are in order to help you make a more informed choice about which frequencies or system to use. Most are pretty good.
@@ScottUhlMusic absolutely, I use one called WiFi Tools and another called WiFiman from my equipment provider Ubiquiti. Either will do the job. But like I said there are many to choose from. Some have some really good graphics as well. The trick is to have a phone and an app that recognizes the 5.8Ghz band. Not all cell phones do.
@@ScottUhlMusic Pretty sure it's just for 2.4 and 5.8. I don't work with frequencies that low anymore. But hey, can't hurt to look. I kinda doubt it now that I think about it. I can't think of a piece of equipment not specifically designed for that freq that you would want to get. AND, your phone definitely wont do it.
Thanks for the great videos regarding these assorted wireless doo-hickies. After playing guitar for 50+ years in almost every live situation you can imagine, I recently decided to cut the cord and go wireless. Looking at the endless myriad of these things on Amazon, your vids have been invaluable and after watching this one in particular, I've decided that this is the product to go with and I've just ordered up. I can't wait to stop dragging around a guitar cable in my studio. I just subscribed to your channel as this is the level of quality information I seek.
All these are true. I have all of them and this Swiff works the best. It doesn’t even drop a bit in practice and gigs. Eventhough the area is crowded with wireless it still works great.
I think this is my personal favorite out of all the ones I’ve used. My singer also uses this as his ONLY wireless and has not had any problems with it 👍
These look good @Scott Uhl, might try a set The first UHF set I tried were Lekato's WS-70, they do work on a narrower range, 550-600MHz but I used them live for about two years, never dropped out on me once, only stopped using them live cos after using them that long the battery capacity seemed to've dropped some, still use them at home though The Swiff set on Amazon UK is around £80 which works out to around $100usd, but we pay more for most music gear in the UK than people do in the US The Lekato WS-70 is around half that in the UK, the other UHF sets I have cost a little more but in the UK at least the WS-70 is well worth a look for people on a tight budget
I purchased one of these systems for my acoustic rig. After fully charging units I plugged in my Bedell with a B-Band preamp on board, and got a whistle through amp if I wasn't touching the send unit. Being more scientificly minded, I first changed from the Kustom PA-50 to the Fishman mini, still there. I then plugged in my Ovation and no problem, same with the Ovation 12 string . I like the sound and the freedom, believe I'll keep it.
this is exactly what i needed to know. I only need wireless for my church gig (I can't completely trust the sound man, need to hear the house) all the others I cable up. I used your link to purchase
I watched your first video but bought the swiff based on another UA-cam video review. Love it. Had it about 2 weeks. Works great. I also have a Line 6 wireless on my board...it gets dropouts occasionally. Now I saw your new video pop up in my subs feed...and was interested in your review of it. Thumbs up! Confirms my own experience with it.
Aloha brutha!🏝Great vids! I’ve bought 3 pairs of this wireless system over 1yr. I love them! Why 3 sets? Broke one sitting down w/unit not snug to guitar (PRS)…broke a 2nd tripping on receiver attached to my Headrush…broke the 3rd same way I broke the 1st one! Lol! Then, I took parts from all 3 orphaned pairs and rebuilt into 2 working pairs! Plus I reversed the plug on the transmitters so now I can easily check the charge indicators…plus the “on” button now faces out which I think looks wayye cooler! 🤙🏽 one of the solder joints was hanging by only 1 thread of wire (which explained why that unit was so scratchy!) …now strong like bull!🦾😎
Nice job! Just started to get interest in wireless systems. Great advise from someone who actually has used the systems, not just test the systems. FYI; 2.4hz is also used with home wireless telephones, R/C cars, planes, some adapted to control model outdoor electric & live steam trains, & drones (which are bring used more & more for filming). 5.8hz is in up scale & newer wireless home telephones .
Yup, 2.4ghz is even more crowded with all of those other things as well. I understand why companies make them because they are universally accepted around the world. But that makes it very crowded
I've been using wireless for yrs. 1st with a garbage Nady system then switched to AKG wireless bug system. I went a little crazy and bought 7 different bug set ups. All on different frequencies. The 1 I use the most now has a 2 AAA battery powered receiver and a regular 1 AAA battery for the bug transmitter. That goes to my pedalboard and coming out is a Getaria 5.8 system. I've used these all over with both electric and acoustic/electric guitars. Through amps, P A's, D I boxes. On the beach, in churches with their own wireless systems working, at an outside church with just an acoustic guitar and a keyboard plugged into a rechargeable P A speaker. Everything always sounds real good. Enough to where 1 church guitarist bought 1 of my bug systems and the keyboard guy bought Getaria system for himself.
I got my Swift Aundio 2 days ago because of this review. Bro. It's awesome. I LOVE IT!!! Trust me guys, this is the one. It looks great and sounds great. No drop in tone quality. Perfect. THANK YOU!!!
Glad you enjoy it 🤘 just played a show with a guitarist and bass player who both got this wireless and used it too, and they love it too. It’s such a good wireless, especially for that price!
I just bought a pair of these for my Bass, going to try and use them out at a gig in downtown Baltimore, I'll let you guys know how it sounds to me with the low freqs.
I think you have an excellent perspective on wireless systems. I, too, have a Shure for important gigs, but 99% of the time, I use these cheaper systems. In particular, I use the Blackwing (probably originally named BlackWang :-) ) I bought it based on your recommendation. I wanted to note that the first one I received had to be returned, because the jack on the receiver was wobbling in the housing. Otherwise, the system has been stable, and I've never had a dropout. So thanks mucho not just for the reviews, but especially for your thoughts on tone and th use of cheaper systems.
I use the Swiff, they are great minimal frequency difference (im neurotic about sound) (bass player) like u said how do they sound...Great! Very quite, even with full pumped 2000 watts and overdrive pedals. I usually have Morgami cables, Swiff system is quiter to me... thanx from another brother in Colorado, High to you 💀✌🤟
Thanks for the info. I bought these mainly based on your videos about cheaper wireless systems. Well explained. They'll be here tomorrow.... we'll see how they do.
First let me say thanks for good videos and helping us people understand the equipment. With that said I have a question/issue and am reaching out…this is pertaining to wireless guitar in specific the Swifi. Allow me to elaborate…..I am primarily a metal/hard rock player. The 80s is when I grew up….lol the decade of decadence….now I use a couple of super strats, I.e. Floyd rose and high gain pick ups etc. I set things down 15 years ago when my children started coming along….this past year I have gotten back in and have been playing for around 40 years total….these days it’s just at the house for myself….I run my amp into a mixing board and into a headphone amp…it sounds killer blah blah blah. After seeing these cheap wireless units I decided I wanted one and your videos helped me to choose the Swifi I experience no drop outs, range is great, no tonal issues that I can hear…but… I have a gain loss is the best way I can describe it. I run my amp around 70-75 percent gain and with the high gain pups…well it’s a face melting tone. So let just lay out an example….when using guitar to 1/4 inch cable to amp….when I’m noodling up on the 12-14 frets and bend or hold a note…for simplicity let’s say that note goes for 8 seconds around 5-6 seconds it goes sonic…meaning it’s the point when the vibration through the pups go into naturally harmonics not volume feedback but high gain harmonic…..killerness!!!! Now when I use the Swifi ….it feels like I have cut the gain down 30% say from 75 to 45….and at that 5-6 second mark the note dissipates it’s not the noise gate altogether it does resemble that and I don’t understand this. Now on the other spectrum I can use the Swifi on the headphones/record out of the amp to my mixer and it sounds normal with no loss of anything tone gain volume nothing…..it is killer….any ideas
Yeah some people have said these cheaper ones give them a gain loss or a noise gate with metal stuff. That’s unfortunately part of the risk with these cheap ones. Try it with your setup, if it doesn’t work return it and try another one is the best advice I’ve come up with for it. Hope that helps!
@@ScottUhlMusic thanks for the reply…unfortunately I am beyond the return date…. But I’m ok with it because I started using this from out of the record out to my board and preforms just fine…so I think I will try another one anyway to see if it is ok for the guitar and if it has issues I will have a return period…no harm no fowl….maybe that lekato ws 70 that you seem to like
Thanks, and out of all the wireless I’ve reviewed I think this is probably the first one I would recommend to most people. Especially just for practice at home, it’s a no brainer for sure!
Thanks Scott! I've just purchased the Swiff unit based on your video and the better choice of frequency. I'll let you know how it works out for me. Cheers!
Great video. I live in Denver I just bought this for a show my band it's always sunny in Tijuana is playing at the end of July at moe's. I liked and subscribed
Nice man! I think my old bands might have played with you guys. Glass Delirium or Tattooed Strings. Either way, I’ve used this system at Moes and it works great 👍 enjoy the new wireless. Thanks!
Thanks! That’s an old riff from my band Glass Delirium. The song was called Vanished By The Red, and it’s not even on Spotify anymore lol. But on our Facebook page we left a link to a Dropbox to download all our songs if you wanted to listen. Thanks for the sub!
@@ScottUhlMusic 87 bucks (canadian) and the Ammoons are 80! No that big of a difference but it's weird. Guess I'd have to go to the States to buy one 😂😂
I've sent the Swiff WS-50 back as it was sucking too much tone out of the sound. When using the WS-50 there is a 5dB level drop (which is a lot) compared to plugging the instrument directly into the amp. There is also less treble and less bass. I put this down to the fact that the frequency range of the WS-50 is 30Hz to 16Khz, whereas there is apparently a new version available in some territories (the Swiff WS-70) that has a frequency range of 20hz to 20Khz which may solve these problems. BTW, I have been A/B-ing the WS-50 with a bass guitar which may make the bass roll-off more apparent. All I need to do now is find someone who can supply the Swiff WS-70 in the U.K.!
30hz-16khz should not be a problem. I program my stuff to get rid of below 100 and above 8k anyways for a cleaner tone. I do not hear the loss in quality at all from these, but tone is up to the listener. A volume cut doesn’t bother me, because I can just turn my output up, but again.... I do not hear it. No worries either way and thanks for the comment 👍
I've had the WS-70 for a few months now and can confirm that is MUCH better than the WS-50. It runs at 20khz instead of 16khz so the tone is much better and there is less volume drop.
Lower frequencies have better range too (the larger wavelength is less likely to be damaged in transit over distance), so this seems like a no-brainer!
My understanding is that they do work with active pickups. But I don’t own any active pickups to try it to confirm myself. But I’m pretty sure they do 👍
Thank you so much for this.... I was looking around for a system to use, and I was really trying to settle on one. I'm getting these based off your recommendation. Thanks again Scott.
Thanks! This is still the first one I recommend for people for cheap wireless. They are great if you understand the limitations of cheap gear. I still use this one 👍
Ours stopped working correctly after about 8 months. Basically they no longer seat all the way in. Ive tried multiple guitars and same result. The only way the transmitter works is if I put pressure on it which obviously isn't feasible when playing. Glad I bought the 2 year warranty.
…extremely helpful video; just what I was looking for. On your rec and those in the comments I will be following your Amazon link and ordering. Thanks.
So far I've used them in practice sessions only, but I can hear the better sound above the 2.5Ghz Gitarre that are now in the depths of my gig bag. The battery life so far is also better.
@@ScottUhlMusic I bought mine on the strength of your review. I also have an AKG SR40/PT40 which is really good, but the receiver has to be powered. Which is a right pain. My set up consists of just a floor processor which is really a preamp and I already have to find power for that. But having the physical AKG receiver next to it was a right pain. This gizmo doesn't interfere with the Sennheiser wireless mic either. So happy days. I can't hear the difference between my AKG and this gizmo. Uh. I also have a shure wireless in ear monitor and no interference with that either. So I can whole heartedly recommend this gizmo too.
This one is ALMOST perfect. I put the switch to my neck pickup (clean channel on amp) and did some heavy pick attack for funk leads stuff and the notes got cut off. The system couldn't handle too much bass and loud picking or something. Had to return and switch for the Getaria 5.8g one which is better but it added a little gain (not distorted) which is not that bad. I liked the tone in the swiff because it didn't add much gain to the signal.
Are you sure it was cutting out because of the volume of how loud you were hitting the strings? I play pretty heavily and I don’t have that issue... but you never know. Everyone’s setup and playing style is different
@@ScottUhlMusic Yes. I pick hard for the funk stuff. It only cuts off when you pick hard on the individual notes. And ONLY when the neck pickup is engaged. It's weird because it doesn't do that on the bridge and I have a high gain pickup (tone zone). I tried it with my other guitars and it does the same. Don't know if mine was faulty.
So I bought the Swiff WS-50 based on this review, and I have serious issue with cut in/cut out. I looked it up, and apparently it has a built in noise gate that you cannot turn off. I play death metal, so it's constantly cutting out my signal because of the heavy distortion. Works great clean, doesn't seem to work well with heavy distortion.
Interesting. Thanks for letting me know! I appreciate the feedback. Unfortunately that’s the risk with these cheap ones. One of the other ones might work better for you 🤘
@@ScottUhlMusic A little update. I tried the Lekato WS-70, also a UHF system - and I experienced the SAME issues as the Swiff WS-50. Constant drop in/out, acts like a noise game. But I also tried the Lekato WS-80, the 2.4GHz system - AND NO ISSUES! So it's something with the UHF systems that doesn't like my set up.
Bought these. They worked perfectly (pairing) but had a massive impact on the sound. Sucked out all the high end sparkle to my tone. Sending them back.
That’s part of the risk. They work great with my setup, they work great with my singers setup, and they work great for many other comments. But they don’t work with everyone
Hey Scott! I loved your review of the SWIFF WS-50, and now see SWIFF advertising the WS-70 and WS-70+. I haven't been able to get feedback directly from the company on the differences in these newer (?) versions of the WS-50, and wondering if you'd had a chance to take a look at them.
I use a Guitaria wireless system from one of your videos, just for home studio stuff. It works well in that situation. I’m definitely going to check out this one. Thanks for this.
I bought the Swiss for use at church. it's pretty good but sometimes, and not all the time, it seems to have a little bit of delay in the attack, and I think a little noise. But with an eq in the circuit I can get a good stable and clean signal.
So - I bought the Swiff WS-50 following your review. The GOOD: the wireless works (kind of). The BAD: when I pick quietly (I play with dynamics), there is no sound. The UGLY: there is a noticeable hiss when playing, especially strong with mid-to-low notes. I tested it with clean signal from active pickups on mandolin and bouzouki. CONCLUSION: I wouldn't recommend it for quality performances. Perhaps for a non-important street gig it'll do.
I wonder if they have updated the model for these, because I see these comments more now. But I absolutely do not have this problem with my wireless. My singer uses them at every show and it works great.
Hello, great video congratulations! Does this equipment fit an Ibanez SD470, SD 570, Fender Stratocaster? I mean where a regular cable is connected Thanks in advance
I stared with the XVibe on a Recommendation from a friend, they were almost 250 bucks Canadian, so I thought at that price point they would be pretty good, they were terrible, They were dropping out like crazy. Then after seeing Scott’s video I like the sound of the Getaria 5.8 mhz, so I bought them and sent the Zvibes back, the Getaria have been working fine, but the other day I saw these on Amazon and ordered them, I think they’re going to be the best ones.
Thanks for the comment! The best strategy in my opinion is to have one on 5.8ghz (like the getaria one you got) and then have one of these on the 900mhz. So if one isn’t working, you have an option and it’s only about $100 for two wireless 👍 so good call!
@@ScottUhlMusic I use the Line 6 Relay 50 for shows, but I’m using these cheaper ones for rehearsals and jamming at home. Thanks for you content, it has really helped me out!!
I'm so excited to see a UHF without a little antenna, because I know I'll break those! Might get this and a 5.8ghz backup (had an xvive 2.4ghz for a while but after 3 or 4 years it just stopped one day - shame as it never gave me any trouble, perhaps I'll do as you say and get all three options!)
@@ScottUhlMusic a day down the rabbit hole later, I'm not sure I can use 5.8 here in the UK. Have written to Swiff and Lekato to get confirmation of their UHF bands too... hoping 2.4 isn't my only option!
Thanks for the vid! I just picked up 2 here in Aus to experiment with: it's winter here and I want to record on my DAW closer to the fire, but my Eurorack setup is waaaay over there 4M away where it's cold! The main thing for me was the latency. If these work well, I might pick up another 2 sets just cos I love 'mobility' so much... even pick up a decent adapter and plug 'jack headphones' into the monitoring for the interface so I can still wander around (bluetooth and RF headphones have too much latency)
Nice, enjoy! You might run into issues using 4 at once... but they might be ok. Just keep that in mind ahead of time. But these are great systems for sure :)
Thanks for the tip and review Scott! By the way I mentioned I liked the Boss for its durability. One drawback I forgot to mention about the Boss was that it may not work well with sunken tele type input jacks. I had to use a washer on one to get it to activate. The Swiff sounds like a good purchase.
Between the two of these just for build quality and battery life and stuff like that, the boss wins for sure. But this one is about 1/3 the price, and not on 2.4ghz which makes it the winner for me. You are correct on the fact that I like when the wireless doesn’t just stick straight out of the guitar. It looks a little ugly IMO. Glad you enjoyed the video 🤘 If you do end up getting this one, let me know your thoughts on it compared to the Boss one
I saw an ad for the CFG (Cable Free Guitar) C-01 which got me searching for reviews where I found both of your great videos. Thank you for those! They were both very informative. The C-01 is the newly upgraded model to CFG’s A8 wireless system, which incorporates the swivel design that the A8 didn’t have. The A8 is currently on sale for $49.90 (normally $100) and the C-01 is on sale for $74.90 (normally $150). My question about these two units regards frequency. On their website it says both utilizes UHF 730MHz. How does this work with the ranges you have indicated in this video? Thanks, again, for you straight-forward, informative videos! Keep them coming!
I bought this on a whim after searching and reading on wireless systems for about an hour and decided that this was the best pick without seeing or reading any reveiws.. looks like I may of made the right choice.....
I've had two of this exact unit. The batteries only last for 45 minutes to an hour. Even contacted the seller and they replaced one set with a set that has the same battery problem.
That’s very odd. Mine works great and survives 4 hours. I had 1 bass player and 2 singers in bands I play with, and all 4 of us do not have that problem. Not sure why that’s happening with yours
I remember back in the day most stuff ran on VHF which was the 'busy' network and then they started putting out wireless that ran on UHF which almost nothing was running on so it seemed to work well,but I personally never had an issue with VHF either so I never bought one.
I had a pair of these Swiff, and like one other commenter, they did not work for me. Sounds like there is a badly adjusted noise gate that sometimes pops, cutting off the attack transient and flutters on the note tails. I returned it and got the Lekato 5.8 which is working great with all my guitars and basses, active and passive.
I have the best advice for that in this video: What Is The BEST CHEAP WIRELESS SYSTEM - Part III ua-cam.com/video/xRmmgrQoHZU/v-deo.html But glad you found one that works for you 🤘🤘
Love your videos and learn much from them. One thing, though....I use various stringed instruments at home and so leave them on a stand. For me, it was necessary to make sure the units had an on/off switch so I wouldn't have to unplug them from the instruments all the time. I didn't notice this on the Swiff unit--I wonder if you can turn them off while in the instruments. Outstanding comparison....your method of testing reminds me a bit of Project Farm, one of my favorites.
Thank you for the review. I am not a musician but see a use for this in the DJ world as I would like to transmit a signal from my console to a wireless pa speaker and/or daisy chain from one speaker to the next. I hope this works as running cable across doorways are a hassle. Have you heard of this application? I do know about the Sure and Senn systems but on a budget.
Yup! This is what I use for wireless for PA speakers and it works great: WIRELESS XLR System w/ PHANTOM POWER! Kimafun XLR Wireless Review/Demo ua-cam.com/video/mGETbUMKzG4/v-deo.html
Thanks for the great video. I bought a pair of these and I’m very happy with them. However, do you know any transmitter that works with active pick ups?
Purchased two from your drop down, the amoon and swiss. Will use for my Acoustic. I use Sennheiser's for my Electric. Will let ya know, great video's. .
great review, your video has a lot of information, i need to buy a wireless guitar system and i decided on this product, thanks for your review. .. I subscribed 👍🏼
Was about to buy a wireless unit 2 months ago and was watching your other vid. Today i finally was about to pull the trigger on the getaria 5.8ghz, glad that I look at your channel again! I am getting this now, thanks!
I bought this set off your recommendation. I only dropped out a few times jamming at home, but unfortunately they had an unbearable, ridiculously loud noise floor/hiss to them when run through a high gain tone on my amp sim pedal (ge200). They were legitimately unusable with my setup. I tested them direct into my interface (scarlett 2i2) and the sound wasn't *quite* as loud but unfortunately was still there. Idk if I got a defective unit but other amazon reviewers noted the really bad noise floor/hiss to these things. A shame because they'd be great otherwise.
Sorry to hear that. They work great with my setup, including when I use high gain. The thing I’ve discovered with these cheap ones is you never know which ones will work with which guitar setup. So always try it immediately and return it if it doesn’t work
I like the rounded look of these over the blocky look of the other ones. I wish they had a short cable off the transmit side so you could attach it to your strap. I'm not a fan of any of these hanging off my bass lol. I remedied that with a short female / male cable. First world problems haha.
I'm sure you could get a little extender actually. I don't know how it would clip to your strap though haha. And yes, I usually prefer the clip to the strap ones too
Lower (sub-gigahertz) frequencies will travel longer distances (at the same transmitter power) but cannot carry the same amount of information as the gigahertz bands. They are fine for audio though. The 2.4 and 5.8 GHz bands are best for video with the 5.8 handling HD better, but the range is much shorter for the same transmitter power.
Yeah I haven’t heard audio problems with any of these in regards to tone. Just that 2.4 has been less reliable than 5.8 for me personally. Thanks for the comment 🤘
Or, you could just buy the Ammon and have a cable just in case. That's what I did and have never had to use a cable except recently because when I put the Ammon in the guitar case one of them was left on. I never had a drop out at all . however, The Swift had caught my attention and if I wasn't so broke I would love to have that as plan b or a or whatever.
Thanks for this video. Would there be issues running multiple sets of these simultaneously, or should I get different frequency bands if I needed to run 3 at a time?
Mate you're so right. I've got in ear monitors on 2.4ghz, wireless mic on 5.8ghz and now my 2.4ghz wireless guitar doesn't work so now I need 800-900mhz guitar wireless ha!
@@ScottUhlMusic Yeah! I’ve got pro level wireless in ears and microphones for my band but for my solo acoustic gigs these are okay. Basically you buy cheap you pay twice!
I used Xvive with serious dropout at home. You previous video inspired me what to look for and I found Swiff and bought it a few weeks ago. Thanks for your very detailed comparison and inspiration to me. The Swiff system is amazing, dead silent without any noise or dropout again. I highly recommend it to all my friends now.
im keen to follow and purchase but they are $145 in Australia unfortunately
@Bullets ForTeeth oh really, are you sure it’s the same? I wondered what the difference was as I found those on eBay too and wondered the difference. Have you got them and are they stable?
@Bullets ForTeeth legend status! thanks heaps man I might take a leap and get the Westshell
This is hissing like crazy on all of my electric guitars when it's on the dirt channel
Cant believe I just payed 150 for xive,might buy this
I've used the swiff on many gigs for about 2 years. Never had a problem. Can't believe it's lasted this long
It’s a solid gem!
I bought these in May of 2020 and my friends thought I was nuts because they had never heard of it. But I analyze things and don't just buy what everyone else has. When I checked the product specs I liked what I saw and decided there would be no interference issue at almost anywhere I could imagine. I have played for 4.5 hours and still had battery life left on the indicator mark it was at light #2 which is half. But it's feasible that the battery life was about to jump to the next level lower. Anyway, I have not had one drop out or noise of any kind. Use it on electric and acoustic-electric and it is as reliable and good sounding as any cable. I only wish the device that plugs into the guitar was smaller. But they are all relatively large and in time I'm sure like everything it will get smaller. :-)
Yeah these things are really incredible for sure! I was really impressed
I just got these today, after watching a few of your videos. I bought them because you mentioned that these will work with active pickups. I can confirm these work with active pickups. They work fine with my '87 Charvel Model 4. Thanks for the video(s) on wireless systems Scott. I had no idea what I was doing and these fit the bill just fine. People just have to realize they ARE buying a $50 system. In the world of Amazon people expect high quality for a cheap price. Things don't work that way. I play down my basement and for $50 bucks these things are great. No hiss, no noticeable latency.
Thanks for sharing and I’m glad it’s working well for you!
Hope you guys enjoyed the video. Also, right after posting it, I noticed that Lekato actually has one of these that transmit NOT on 2.4 or 5.8, but it doesn't say which frequency it transmits on. However, it's only $42. I haven't tried it though. Has anyone tried this model? amzn.to/3s4wLgW How well did it work for you? Cheers 🤘Also, don't forget to watch my other "master" video on these plug-and-play wireless systems here: ua-cam.com/video/A2183MfZWgQ/v-deo.html
Hi Scott I ordered this and recieved it today. I was hoping it would be different than the swiff ones but I encountered the same exact problem I mentioned before. The notes that cut out are sounding like they were highly compressed when they're picked hard and like I mentioned before it only happens on the neck pickup. I'm returning it and will be exchanging it for the Rowin 2.4g one.
I was looking @ those! A lil cheaper right?! But since I had good success w/the Swiff’s I’ll probably continue with them. Also, if I sit or kick another pair, I can scavenge from my existing boneyard of Swiff unit’s to make another pair…again😭
I have to assume the Lekato, is the same as the Westshell wireless G7 that is on lightning deal today...and also the Swiff WS-70 model. This is good and bad. The good being that all brands review really well...the bad being that I just ordered the Westshell (since it was on lightning deal) but then realized the Lekato (@ $42) has a 15% off coupon, and the Swiff is $42 with an 8% coupon...thus making the Westshell the most expensive of all 3 despite the lightning deal. Well, if you want to add the Lekato to your collection, now is the time to do it.
@@affordabletechsolutions6917 I actually got one a few weeks ago haha, but I'll be doing a video on it next week sometime (I want to use it at my gigs this weekend first). So far it's great
@@affordabletechsolutions6917 funny you should say that. I just found this video after getting my westshell G7's this week. I plugged them in this morning, and I'm happy with what I'm hearing so far, but it's going to take more trials. Also, our band's wireless mic system runs on UHF frequencies, so we'll see if there is any interference in that aspect.
it is simply INCREDIBLE quality of a video... thank you so much I wasn't expecting someone to be that dedicated to put quality explanation of these so entertaining even!
Thank you 😊
Picked up a set of these to try out a few days ago. The reviews here and elsewhere were mixed regarding compatibility with active pickups but I figured for $50 it was worth a shot. They worked flawlessly with passives, but unfortunately did not play well at all with my active pickup guitar (EMG 81/85 @9v).
When I first plugged in and strummed a few chords it sounded OK so I had high hopes, but as soon as I started playing anything that involved aggressive low string palm muting it started cutting out. My best guess going off what I was hearing through my speakers is that there's some sort of gate in the system that gets hit only when chugging away with higher output actives.
If I rolled off the volume pot on the guitar and/or played with a VERY light touch I could get it to go away. I think that's where some of the confusion on whether or not these work with actives comes from. If you have a lower output active system and/or play a style of music that has little to no palm muting these may work. If you're using EMGs or the equivalent doing aggressive metal or metal-adjacent stuff these probably aren't for you.
They're 3x the price and on a different frequency band, so it's not a direct comparison, but FWIW the NU-X C5-RC has worked flawlessly with my actives and anything else I've plugged it into.
And thanks Scott for all the info on this channel. Seriously helpful!
Thank you for the details in this comment! I really appreciate it, and I hope this answers the questions for some people who watch this video as well! Really appreciate it 🤘🤘
Yes. EMG don't work, sadness.
Give a link to nux please.
Just ordered the WS-50! Thank you!
Nice! Enjoy 🤘
Fantastic reviews on all of the wireless system you've covered. I like that you only talk about what you know through use and also how you give sound recommendations that are based on your research and logic. And your GIFs in the videos are fitting and funny AF. Thanks
Thanks! Come for the tech talk, stay for the memes 😁
@@ScottUhlMusic yes, sir!
Ive used these for about a year for both, my cordoba acoustic/electric and my electric bass and it works great.
Westshell also has a UHF unit actually was trying to find a demo on which ended up bringing me here thanks for the info on UHF
I believe that’s basically the same thing 👍
Just got my WS-50. It works with the two basses I tried with it and my wife's electronic fiddle. Sounds good to me! Thanks!
Great to hear!
I own 3 pairs. Love them. 8.5 outta 10. Worth every penny.
I realize this video is already 2 years old, but I just bought this wireless system based on your recommendation and I have NOT been disappointed. The range is great, its crystal clear and good battery life. Can't beat that for $50. Thanks!
Awesome! Glad to hear it!
Thanks for doing a review on UHF systems. I've been out of music for almost 20 years, but was invited to play a set at jazzfest in New Orleans in early May. At 67, it's probably the last real show I'll ever play, so I accepted the offer and pulled out my old Precisions and bought some strings. I was a wireless guy, but no longer have the old system I did in the early 90s. It never worked anywhere in Atlanta, Denver, NY, DC, or some other larger cities in the States or Europe. A little research suggested that 2.4 might not be the optimal frequency to use if I don't want to be tethered. This video helps a lot. THANK YOU!! Sounds like UHF is the way to go.
Thanks! And also buying higher end wireless definitely helps too. I do suggest watching this video as well: ua-cam.com/video/xRmmgrQoHZU/v-deo.htmlsi=K9HUWn4SKi9C4C7D Hope that helps!
@@ScottUhlMusic Thank you!!
I've had the Lekato ws-50 (5.8 GHz) for just over a year and never had a problem, however, I HAVE forgotten to charge them and had to fall back to a cable because of that. I like the idea of buying these for redundancy and having the option to try a different band if I ever do have issues. Great advice!
The problem with these UHF systems is that they all seem to have a built in noise gate that can't be turned off, and many amazon reviews of the swiff explain that. I have the lekato UHF system and it does the exact same thing. It makes playing at low volumes really annoying because the audio will cut out, and even on the attack of some notes the audio will cut off the transients too. I could hear it on your distorted test, where the audio was cutting in on the transients.
I just shot a video about this. My advice… you are shopping in the most budget part of the store for wireless. Don’t want to mess around with cheap stuff? Save up and buy an entry level Shure or sennheiser system. These work well for me, but it doesn’t sound like you are having much luck with them.
@@ScottUhlMusic Can you link your video on the gating? I cannot find it on your channel.
Your channel is the absolute best for anything wireless for musicians, thank you for sharing your experience!
Thank you 🙏
Thanks for the recommendation and suggestions!
Thanks for watching!
I know I'm late to the game here. But I bought these a couple of months ago because of this review. And I have to say I'm quite impressed. As a bass player it seems the low end on other wireless systems just "shelf" off around 400k. But not these. I use a modern bass with modern pickups. I do not hear any difference between this system or cabled. Good call Scott. Thanks for keeping it real for us broke-a$$ musicians. Now.... I have some catching up to do with your channel.....
Nice! Glad they’ve been working out well for you 🤘
Thanks so much for the information. Very detailed. I'll be getting the SWIFF. I subscribed for sure.
Thanks for the sub! 🤘
Awesome! I just ordered it. I'm with you in that I'm really getting obsessed about avoiding all cables. I would invest in any system (microphones included), as long as it is rechargeable, reliable, and sounds good.
Nice! Welcome to the no cable club 💪 just be careful with using too much cheap wireless all at once if you want to get rid of all cables. Watch this video for a guide for buying wireless and how many are on stage at once: Choosing the Right WIRELESS SYSTEM - A Comprehensive Guide
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Picked up these today after my Line6 G10 died last night. The transmitter overheated and now it and the base just blink red.
These were recommended as a replacement. Much cheaper to buy these than replace the Line6 transmitter!
BTW, there are a number of apps you can download on your phone the will "show" you the RF environment where you are in order to help you make a more informed choice about which frequencies or system to use. Most are pretty good.
Interesting... I would definitely like to check those out. Any in particular that you recommend?
@@ScottUhlMusic absolutely, I use one called WiFi Tools and another called WiFiman from my equipment provider Ubiquiti. Either will do the job. But like I said there are many to choose from. Some have some really good graphics as well. The trick is to have a phone and an app that recognizes the 5.8Ghz band. Not all cell phones do.
Ah gotcha, so it’s for 2.4 and 5.8ghz only correct? Still helpful for sure! I was just wondering how it would work for the 470-600mhz range
@@ScottUhlMusic Pretty sure it's just for 2.4 and 5.8. I don't work with frequencies that low anymore. But hey, can't hurt to look. I kinda doubt it now that I think about it. I can't think of a piece of equipment not specifically designed for that freq that you would want to get. AND, your phone definitely wont do it.
Simply the best better than more expensive units I’ve had ,
Nice! I use my sennheiser for really crucial shows but this one is still quite nice
Thanks for the great videos regarding these assorted wireless doo-hickies. After playing guitar for 50+ years in almost every live situation you can imagine, I recently decided to cut the cord and go wireless. Looking at the endless myriad of these things on Amazon, your vids have been invaluable and after watching this one in particular, I've decided that this is the product to go with and I've just ordered up. I can't wait to stop dragging around a guitar cable in my studio. I just subscribed to your channel as this is the level of quality information I seek.
Thanks! I appreciate it 😊 and enjoy your new wireless 🤘
All these are true. I have all of them and this Swiff works the best. It doesn’t even drop a bit in practice and gigs. Eventhough the area is crowded with wireless it still works great.
I think this is my personal favorite out of all the ones I’ve used. My singer also uses this as his ONLY wireless and has not had any problems with it 👍
@@ScottUhlMusic It’s my fave too so far. Nice videos you have here. Thanks for the video!
These look good @Scott Uhl, might try a set
The first UHF set I tried were Lekato's WS-70, they do work on a narrower range, 550-600MHz but I used them live for about two years, never dropped out on me once, only stopped using them live cos after using them that long the battery capacity seemed to've dropped some, still use them at home though
The Swiff set on Amazon UK is around £80 which works out to around $100usd, but we pay more for most music gear in the UK than people do in the US
The Lekato WS-70 is around half that in the UK, the other UHF sets I have cost a little more but in the UK at least the WS-70 is well worth a look for people on a tight budget
I purchased one of these systems for my acoustic rig. After fully charging units I plugged in my Bedell with a B-Band preamp on board, and got a whistle through amp if I wasn't touching the send unit. Being more scientificly minded, I first changed from the Kustom PA-50 to the Fishman mini, still there. I then plugged in my Ovation and no problem, same with the Ovation 12 string . I like the sound and the freedom, believe I'll keep it.
I’ve found that can happen with certain guitars
Bought this Swiff...only issue is a buzz using it with an active preamp...but passive is fine...sounds great
this is exactly what i needed to know. I only need wireless for my church gig (I can't completely trust the sound man, need to hear the house) all the others I cable up. I used your link to purchase
Thanks Mark 🤘
I watched your first video but bought the swiff based on another UA-cam video review. Love it. Had it about 2 weeks. Works great. I also have a Line 6 wireless on my board...it gets dropouts occasionally. Now I saw your new video pop up in my subs feed...and was interested in your review of it. Thumbs up! Confirms my own experience with it.
Awesome! Glad to hear it’s working for you as well. It’s definitely a solid wireless, especially for the price
Aloha brutha!🏝Great vids! I’ve bought 3 pairs of this wireless system over 1yr. I love them! Why 3 sets? Broke one sitting down w/unit not snug to guitar (PRS)…broke a 2nd tripping on receiver attached to my Headrush…broke the 3rd same way I broke the 1st one! Lol! Then, I took parts from all 3 orphaned pairs and rebuilt into 2 working pairs! Plus I reversed the plug on the transmitters so now I can easily check the charge indicators…plus the “on” button now faces out which I think looks wayye cooler! 🤙🏽 one of the solder joints was hanging by only 1 thread of wire (which explained why that unit was so scratchy!) …now strong like bull!🦾😎
Hell, I have about 6 pairs of these plug and play wireless now, I’m not here to judge 😃
Nice job! Just started to get interest in wireless systems. Great advise from someone who actually has used the systems, not just test the systems.
FYI; 2.4hz is also used with home wireless telephones, R/C cars, planes, some adapted to control model outdoor electric & live steam trains, & drones (which are bring used more & more for filming). 5.8hz is in up scale & newer wireless home telephones .
Yup, 2.4ghz is even more crowded with all of those other things as well. I understand why companies make them because they are universally accepted around the world. But that makes it very crowded
I've been using wireless for yrs. 1st with a garbage Nady system then switched to AKG wireless bug system. I went a little crazy and bought 7 different bug set ups. All on different frequencies. The 1 I use the most now has a 2 AAA battery powered receiver and a regular 1 AAA battery for the bug transmitter. That goes to my pedalboard and coming out is a Getaria 5.8 system. I've used these all over with both electric and acoustic/electric guitars. Through amps, P A's, D I boxes. On the beach, in churches with their own wireless systems working, at an outside church with just an acoustic guitar and a keyboard plugged into a rechargeable P A speaker. Everything always sounds real good. Enough to where 1 church guitarist bought 1 of my bug systems and the keyboard guy bought Getaria system for himself.
I got my Swift Aundio 2 days ago because of this review. Bro. It's awesome. I LOVE IT!!! Trust me guys, this is the one. It looks great and sounds great. No drop in tone quality. Perfect. THANK YOU!!!
Glad you enjoy it 🤘 just played a show with a guitarist and bass player who both got this wireless and used it too, and they love it too. It’s such a good wireless, especially for that price!
I just bought a pair of these for my Bass, going to try and use them out at a gig in downtown Baltimore, I'll let you guys know how it sounds to me with the low freqs.
I think you have an excellent perspective on wireless systems. I, too, have a Shure for important gigs, but 99% of the time, I use these cheaper systems. In particular, I use the Blackwing (probably originally named BlackWang :-) ) I bought it based on your recommendation. I wanted to note that the first one I received had to be returned, because the jack on the receiver was wobbling in the housing. Otherwise, the system has been stable, and I've never had a dropout.
So thanks mucho not just for the reviews, but especially for your thoughts on tone and th use of cheaper systems.
Thanks! And yup, that’s part of the risk of buying cheap. I’m glad you understand that 🤘
I use the Swiff, they are great minimal frequency difference (im neurotic about sound) (bass player) like u said how do they sound...Great! Very quite, even with full pumped 2000 watts and overdrive pedals. I usually have Morgami cables, Swiff system is quiter to me... thanx from another brother in Colorado, High to you 💀✌🤟
Thanks for the info. I bought these mainly based on your videos about cheaper wireless systems. Well explained. They'll be here tomorrow.... we'll see how they do.
Nice, enjoy your wireless 🤘
First let me say thanks for good videos and helping us people understand the equipment. With that said I have a question/issue and am reaching out…this is pertaining to wireless guitar in specific the Swifi. Allow me to elaborate…..I am primarily a metal/hard rock player. The 80s is when I grew up….lol the decade of decadence….now I use a couple of super strats, I.e. Floyd rose and high gain pick ups etc. I set things down 15 years ago when my children started coming along….this past year I have gotten back in and have been playing for around 40 years total….these days it’s just at the house for myself….I run my amp into a mixing board and into a headphone amp…it sounds killer blah blah blah. After seeing these cheap wireless units I decided I wanted one and your videos helped me to choose the Swifi I experience no drop outs, range is great, no tonal issues that I can hear…but… I have a gain loss is the best way I can describe it. I run my amp around 70-75 percent gain and with the high gain pups…well it’s a face melting tone. So let just lay out an example….when using guitar to 1/4 inch cable to amp….when I’m noodling up on the 12-14 frets and bend or hold a note…for simplicity let’s say that note goes for 8 seconds around 5-6 seconds it goes sonic…meaning it’s the point when the vibration through the pups go into naturally harmonics not volume feedback but high gain harmonic…..killerness!!!! Now when I use the Swifi ….it feels like I have cut the gain down 30% say from 75 to 45….and at that 5-6 second mark the note dissipates it’s not the noise gate altogether it does resemble that and I don’t understand this. Now on the other spectrum I can use the Swifi on the headphones/record out of the amp to my mixer and it sounds normal with no loss of anything tone gain volume nothing…..it is killer….any ideas
Yeah some people have said these cheaper ones give them a gain loss or a noise gate with metal stuff. That’s unfortunately part of the risk with these cheap ones. Try it with your setup, if it doesn’t work return it and try another one is the best advice I’ve come up with for it. Hope that helps!
@@ScottUhlMusic thanks for the reply…unfortunately I am beyond the return date…. But I’m ok with it because I started using this from out of the record out to my board and preforms just fine…so I think I will try another one anyway to see if it is ok for the guitar and if it has issues I will have a return period…no harm no fowl….maybe that lekato ws 70 that you seem to like
Excellent video. Great info, concise, to the point and without anything we really don’t need to know. Thank you.
Thank you! 😊
Hi Scott from Tucson, AZ. Really enjoyed your "cheap wireless" posts. Thank you. Just for home practicing I'm now thinking of the Swiff.
Thanks, and out of all the wireless I’ve reviewed I think this is probably the first one I would recommend to most people. Especially just for practice at home, it’s a no brainer for sure!
@@ScottUhlMusic I appreciate your response Scott !
Thanks Scott! I've just purchased the Swiff unit based on your video and the better choice of frequency. I'll let you know how it works out for me. Cheers!
Nice! Enjoy 🤘
That‘s a fantastic information! Did not know about UHF systems. I will definitely get a UHF set.
Thank you, much appreciated! 👍🏼🤝
Thanks for watching!
Great video. I live in Denver I just bought this for a show my band it's always sunny in Tijuana is playing at the end of July at moe's. I liked and subscribed
Nice man! I think my old bands might have played with you guys. Glass Delirium or Tattooed Strings. Either way, I’ve used this system at Moes and it works great 👍 enjoy the new wireless. Thanks!
Great info - and all the little screen clips were awesome!
🤘🤘 thanks!
Are you just noodling at 2:56 or is that from some tune? Very cool, whatever it is.
Good review. Just subscribed.
Thanks! That’s an old riff from my band Glass Delirium. The song was called Vanished By The Red, and it’s not even on Spotify anymore lol. But on our Facebook page we left a link to a Dropbox to download all our songs if you wanted to listen. Thanks for the sub!
Fixing to order these
Along with some DiMarzios S D humbuckers
Thanks for the work you did to arrive at this recommendation !
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great review! We tour with ours and love them!
Thank you! And yeah these things are great 🤘
Thanks so much for doing these videos!! Really helps us musicians that are on a tight budget!
I accidentally hit the dislike button but quickly realized my mistake and hit the like! 🤣
Thanks! Glad to help 🤘
Here in Canada this one is actually more expensive than the Ammoon 5.8
Great videos dude!!! Thanx for sharing
Oh wow, how much is it in Canada?
@@ScottUhlMusic 87 bucks (canadian) and the Ammoons are 80! No that big of a difference but it's weird. Guess I'd have to go to the States to buy one 😂😂
Hahahaha that’s not too bad though!
I've sent the Swiff WS-50 back as it was sucking too much tone out of the sound. When using the WS-50 there is a 5dB level drop (which is a lot) compared to plugging the instrument directly into the amp. There is also less treble and less bass. I put this down to the fact that the frequency range of the WS-50 is 30Hz to 16Khz, whereas there is apparently a new version available in some territories (the Swiff WS-70) that has a frequency range of 20hz to 20Khz which may solve these problems. BTW, I have been A/B-ing the WS-50 with a bass guitar which may make the bass roll-off more apparent. All I need to do now is find someone who can supply the Swiff WS-70 in the U.K.!
30hz-16khz should not be a problem. I program my stuff to get rid of below 100 and above 8k anyways for a cleaner tone. I do not hear the loss in quality at all from these, but tone is up to the listener. A volume cut doesn’t bother me, because I can just turn my output up, but again.... I do not hear it. No worries either way and thanks for the comment 👍
I've had the WS-70 for a few months now and can confirm that is MUCH better than the WS-50. It runs at 20khz instead of 16khz so the tone is much better and there is less volume drop.
Just bought it! Thanks for the review!
Nice! Enjoy your new wireless 🤘
Lower frequencies have better range too (the larger wavelength is less likely to be damaged in transit over distance), so this seems like a no-brainer!
Liked, subscribed and bought Swiff through your link. Thanks!
Thank you! And enjoy the wireless. This is probably my favorite one out of all the ones I’ve reviewed
Thank you for reviewing this. Do you know if this works with active pickups? There is no mention if it does or doesn't on the Amazon page.
My understanding is that they do work with active pickups. But I don’t own any active pickups to try it to confirm myself. But I’m pretty sure they do 👍
Thank you so much for this.... I was looking around for a system to use, and I was really trying to settle on one. I'm getting these based off your recommendation. Thanks again Scott.
Thanks! This is still the first one I recommend for people for cheap wireless. They are great if you understand the limitations of cheap gear. I still use this one 👍
nice review. I use the swift for my fender fretless and it works great.
i will buy this soon.. I have NUX C5rc, Lekato Ws70 in 2.4.. now im interested into this.. thanks for the Demo
Good choice!
Ours stopped working correctly after about 8 months. Basically they no longer seat all the way in. Ive tried multiple guitars and same result. The only way the transmitter works is if I put pressure on it which obviously isn't feasible when playing. Glad I bought the 2 year warranty.
Yeah when you buy cheap that’s part of the risk for sure! Mine is still working great, but that can happen for sure
…extremely helpful video; just what I was looking for. On your rec and those in the comments I will be following your Amazon link and ordering. Thanks.
Thank you! Enjoy your wireless 🤘
So far I've used them in practice sessions only, but I can hear the better sound above the 2.5Ghz Gitarre that are now in the depths of my gig bag. The battery life so far is also better.
I think out of ALL the plug and play wireless I’ve reviewed, this one is definitely my favorite
@@ScottUhlMusic I bought mine on the strength of your review. I also have an AKG SR40/PT40 which is really good, but the receiver has to be powered. Which is a right pain. My set up consists of just a floor processor which is really a preamp and I already have to find power for that. But having the physical AKG receiver next to it was a right pain. This gizmo doesn't interfere with the Sennheiser wireless mic either. So happy days. I can't hear the difference between my AKG and this gizmo. Uh. I also have a shure wireless in ear monitor and no interference with that either. So I can whole heartedly recommend this gizmo too.
This one is ALMOST perfect. I put the switch to my neck pickup (clean channel on amp) and did some heavy pick attack for funk leads stuff and the notes got cut off. The system couldn't handle too much bass and loud picking or something. Had to return and switch for the Getaria 5.8g one which is better but it added a little gain (not distorted) which is not that bad. I liked the tone in the swiff because it didn't add much gain to the signal.
Are you sure it was cutting out because of the volume of how loud you were hitting the strings? I play pretty heavily and I don’t have that issue... but you never know. Everyone’s setup and playing style is different
@@ScottUhlMusic Yes. I pick hard for the funk stuff. It only cuts off when you pick hard on the individual notes. And ONLY when the neck pickup is engaged. It's weird because it doesn't do that on the bridge and I have a high gain pickup (tone zone). I tried it with my other guitars and it does the same. Don't know if mine was faulty.
That’s really strange..: I’ll have to test that out myself and see if I can get the same result. Thanks for letting me know!
Thanks Scott Uhl for making these wireless system videos. They really helped me ALOT. Specially the DIY budget IEM video.
Thanks! Glad you’ve found them helpful 🤘
Colorado Springs, here, great video. Home player, this sounds like a win, watchedit last, lol.. Thanks. Ordered a set.
Nice! Enjoy the wireless! My 90s band plays Viewhouse Colorado Springs quite often in the summer. It's a cool spot!
Cool review... Greetings from Turkey
So I bought the Swiff WS-50 based on this review, and I have serious issue with cut in/cut out. I looked it up, and apparently it has a built in noise gate that you cannot turn off. I play death metal, so it's constantly cutting out my signal because of the heavy distortion. Works great clean, doesn't seem to work well with heavy distortion.
Interesting. Thanks for letting me know! I appreciate the feedback. Unfortunately that’s the risk with these cheap ones. One of the other ones might work better for you 🤘
@@ScottUhlMusic A little update. I tried the Lekato WS-70, also a UHF system - and I experienced the SAME issues as the Swiff WS-50. Constant drop in/out, acts like a noise game. But I also tried the Lekato WS-80, the 2.4GHz system - AND NO ISSUES! So it's something with the UHF systems that doesn't like my set up.
Man that’s so interesting because I’ve had nothing but problems with 2.4Ghz. But hey, you found one that works! That’s what’s important!
Bought these. They worked perfectly (pairing) but had a massive impact on the sound. Sucked out all the high end sparkle to my tone. Sending them back.
That’s part of the risk. They work great with my setup, they work great with my singers setup, and they work great for many other comments. But they don’t work with everyone
Hello thanks for the video. Here are other models maybe worth checking as well : the Harley Benton guitar Wireless and Ibanez ones
Hey Scott! I loved your review of the SWIFF WS-50, and now see SWIFF advertising the WS-70 and WS-70+. I haven't been able to get feedback directly from the company on the differences in these newer (?) versions of the WS-50, and wondering if you'd had a chance to take a look at them.
I haven’t, so I’m not sure what the difference is to be honest
ive been using the lekato ws50 for almost 1 year backyard shows and bars, no drop outs.
Yup, it's been a really good system for sure!
I use a Guitaria wireless system from one of your videos, just for home studio stuff. It works well in that situation. I’m definitely going to check out this one. Thanks for this.
I use the Getaria one at home all the time. I do think the Swiff one is a bit better, especially for an extra $15. Definitely worth it IMO 👍
I bought the Swiss for use at church. it's pretty good but sometimes, and not all the time, it seems to have a little bit of delay in the attack, and I think a little noise. But with an eq in the circuit I can get a good stable and clean signal.
Can’t beat it for $50 🤘
So - I bought the Swiff WS-50 following your review.
The GOOD: the wireless works (kind of). The BAD: when I pick quietly (I play with dynamics), there is no sound. The UGLY: there is a noticeable hiss when playing, especially strong with mid-to-low notes. I tested it with clean signal from active pickups on mandolin and bouzouki.
CONCLUSION: I wouldn't recommend it for quality performances. Perhaps for a non-important street gig it'll do.
I wonder if they have updated the model for these, because I see these comments more now. But I absolutely do not have this problem with my wireless. My singer uses them at every show and it works great.
Hello, great video congratulations!
Does this equipment fit an Ibanez SD470, SD 570, Fender Stratocaster? I mean where a regular cable is connected
Thanks in advance
I stared with the XVibe on a Recommendation from a friend, they were almost 250 bucks Canadian, so I thought at that price point they would be pretty good, they were terrible, They were dropping out like crazy. Then after seeing Scott’s video I like the sound of the Getaria 5.8 mhz, so I bought them and sent the Zvibes back, the Getaria have been working fine, but the other day I saw these on Amazon and ordered them, I think they’re going to be the best ones.
Thanks for the comment! The best strategy in my opinion is to have one on 5.8ghz (like the getaria one you got) and then have one of these on the 900mhz. So if one isn’t working, you have an option and it’s only about $100 for two wireless 👍 so good call!
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I use the Line 6 Relay 50 for shows, but I’m using these cheaper ones for rehearsals and jamming at home.
Thanks for you content, it has really helped me out!!
I'm so excited to see a UHF without a little antenna, because I know I'll break those! Might get this and a 5.8ghz backup (had an xvive 2.4ghz for a while but after 3 or 4 years it just stopped one day - shame as it never gave me any trouble, perhaps I'll do as you say and get all three options!)
Smart plan to get a backup on 5.8ghz as well with cheap ones!
@@ScottUhlMusic a day down the rabbit hole later, I'm not sure I can use 5.8 here in the UK. Have written to Swiff and Lekato to get confirmation of their UHF bands too... hoping 2.4 isn't my only option!
Thanks for the vid! I just picked up 2 here in Aus to experiment with: it's winter here and I want to record on my DAW closer to the fire, but my Eurorack setup is waaaay over there 4M away where it's cold! The main thing for me was the latency. If these work well, I might pick up another 2 sets just cos I love 'mobility' so much... even pick up a decent adapter and plug 'jack headphones' into the monitoring for the interface so I can still wander around (bluetooth and RF headphones have too much latency)
Nice, enjoy! You might run into issues using 4 at once... but they might be ok. Just keep that in mind ahead of time. But these are great systems for sure :)
Thanks for the tip and review Scott! By the way I mentioned I liked the Boss for its durability. One drawback I forgot to mention about the Boss was that it may not work well with sunken tele type input jacks. I had to use a washer on one to get it to activate. The Swiff sounds like a good purchase.
Between the two of these just for build quality and battery life and stuff like that, the boss wins for sure. But this one is about 1/3 the price, and not on 2.4ghz which makes it the winner for me. You are correct on the fact that I like when the wireless doesn’t just stick straight out of the guitar. It looks a little ugly IMO. Glad you enjoyed the video 🤘 If you do end up getting this one, let me know your thoughts on it compared to the Boss one
Will do! I’m glad you informed us on the frequency issues, I had no idea, I am no longer gigging, but you never know!
This is how wireless guitar should be reviewed, not walking around the field like puppy. Great man 👍
I saw an ad for the CFG (Cable Free Guitar) C-01 which got me searching for reviews where I found both of your great videos. Thank you for those! They were both very informative.
The C-01 is the newly upgraded model to CFG’s A8 wireless system, which incorporates the swivel design that the A8 didn’t have. The A8 is currently on sale for $49.90 (normally $100) and the C-01 is on sale for $74.90 (normally $150).
My question about these two units regards frequency. On their website it says both utilizes UHF 730MHz. How does this work with the ranges you have indicated in this video?
Thanks, again, for you straight-forward, informative videos! Keep them coming!
730mhz technically is "not allowed" to be used in the USA. 470-600mhz or 900-928mhz are the legal UHF frequencies
I bought this on a whim after searching and reading on wireless systems for about an hour and decided that this was the best pick without seeing or reading any reveiws.. looks like I may of made the right choice.....
Out of all of these types of wireless, and all the specs of them (range, price, frequency, battery, etc) this one is my favorite one
I've had two of this exact unit. The batteries only last for 45 minutes to an hour. Even contacted the seller and they replaced one set with a set that has the same battery problem.
That’s very odd. Mine works great and survives 4 hours. I had 1 bass player and 2 singers in bands I play with, and all 4 of us do not have that problem. Not sure why that’s happening with yours
Great review style!
I remember back in the day most stuff ran on VHF which was the 'busy' network and then they started putting out wireless that ran on UHF which almost nothing was running on so it seemed to work well,but I personally never had an issue with VHF either so I never bought one.
I definitely trust UHF over 2.4 right now for sure. I’ve had much more success with those!
@@ScottUhlMusic right on
I had a pair of these Swiff, and like one other commenter, they did not work for me. Sounds like there is a badly adjusted noise gate that sometimes pops, cutting off the attack transient and flutters on the note tails. I returned it and got the Lekato 5.8 which is working great with all my guitars and basses, active and passive.
I have the best advice for that in this video: What Is The BEST CHEAP WIRELESS SYSTEM - Part III
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But glad you found one that works for you 🤘🤘
Love your videos and learn much from them. One thing, though....I use various stringed instruments at home and so leave them on a stand. For me, it was necessary to make sure the units had an on/off switch so I wouldn't have to unplug them from the instruments all the time. I didn't notice this on the Swiff unit--I wonder if you can turn them off while in the instruments. Outstanding comparison....your method of testing reminds me a bit of Project Farm, one of my favorites.
Thanks! And you can turn it on and off. It’s not with a switch but with a button, and it’s pretty easy to do 🤘
Thank you for the review. I am not a musician but see a use for this in the DJ world as I would like to transmit a signal from my console to a wireless pa speaker and/or daisy chain from one speaker to the next. I hope this works as running cable across doorways are a hassle.
Have you heard of this application?
I do know about the Sure and Senn systems but on a budget.
Yup! This is what I use for wireless for PA speakers and it works great: WIRELESS XLR System w/ PHANTOM POWER! Kimafun XLR Wireless Review/Demo
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very informative useful video, thank you sir !
Thanks for the great video. I bought a pair of these and I’m very happy with them. However, do you know any transmitter that works with active pick ups?
Thanks! Glad you liked it. And I go over that in this video: What Is The BEST CHEAP WIRELESS SYSTEM - Part III
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@@ScottUhlMusic thanks 🙏
Purchased two from your drop down, the amoon and swiss. Will use for my Acoustic. I use Sennheiser's for my Electric. Will let ya know, great video's. .
Thank you! Let me know what you think 🤘 I have had great luck with both units so far
great review, your video has a lot of information, i need to buy a wireless guitar system and i decided on this product, thanks for your review. .. I subscribed 👍🏼
Thanks for subscribing! And enjoy your new wireless 🤘 Let me know what you think when you get it
Was about to buy a wireless unit 2 months ago and was watching your other vid. Today i finally was about to pull the trigger on the getaria 5.8ghz, glad that I look at your channel again! I am getting this now, thanks!
Awesome, enjoy your new wireless 🤘
I bought this set off your recommendation. I only dropped out a few times jamming at home, but unfortunately they had an unbearable, ridiculously loud noise floor/hiss to them when run through a high gain tone on my amp sim pedal (ge200). They were legitimately unusable with my setup. I tested them direct into my interface (scarlett 2i2) and the sound wasn't *quite* as loud but unfortunately was still there. Idk if I got a defective unit but other amazon reviewers noted the really bad noise floor/hiss to these things. A shame because they'd be great otherwise.
Sorry to hear that. They work great with my setup, including when I use high gain. The thing I’ve discovered with these cheap ones is you never know which ones will work with which guitar setup. So always try it immediately and return it if it doesn’t work
I like the rounded look of these over the blocky look of the other ones. I wish they had a short cable off the transmit side so you could attach it to your strap. I'm not a fan of any of these hanging off my bass lol. I remedied that with a short female / male cable. First world problems haha.
I'm sure you could get a little extender actually. I don't know how it would clip to your strap though haha. And yes, I usually prefer the clip to the strap ones too
Lower (sub-gigahertz) frequencies will travel longer distances (at the same transmitter power) but cannot carry the same amount of information as the gigahertz bands. They are fine for audio though. The 2.4 and 5.8 GHz bands are best for video with the 5.8 handling HD better, but the range is much shorter for the same transmitter power.
Yeah I haven’t heard audio problems with any of these in regards to tone. Just that 2.4 has been less reliable than 5.8 for me personally. Thanks for the comment 🤘
Or, you could just buy the Ammon and have a cable just in case. That's what I did and have never had to use a cable except recently because when I put the Ammon in the guitar case one of them was left on. I never had a drop out at all . however, The Swift had caught my attention and if I wasn't so broke I would love to have that as plan b or a or whatever.
Yup, always have a cable ready with cheap gear. And having two different cheap ones on two separate frequencies is a good option!
Great review. Just purchased based on review. Let’s see how it goes...
Thanks! Enjoy your new wireless 🤘
Thanks for this video. Would there be issues running multiple sets of these simultaneously, or should I get different frequency bands if I needed to run 3 at a time?
3 should be fine in most situations, just remember the more cheap wireless you use, the more you up the chances of it not working
Mate you're so right. I've got in ear monitors on 2.4ghz, wireless mic on 5.8ghz and now my 2.4ghz wireless guitar doesn't work so now I need 800-900mhz guitar wireless ha!
Can’t use too much cheap wireless 👍 ua-cam.com/video/Xgw96rY4TAc/v-deo.html
@@ScottUhlMusic Yeah! I’ve got pro level wireless in ears and microphones for my band but for my solo acoustic gigs these are okay. Basically you buy cheap you pay twice!