I’d take the “caller” gmt anyday. I can imagine only a few scenarios where the “traveler” GMT would me better. Most of the time I’m in one time zone, but need to randomly check time for other time zones of my interest. And if I’m out of my time zone, it’s usually for a day or two max, and I find no issue in checking the time using the GmT hand. I find no quick date set a big issue, when I pick up a watch that doesn’t have it it can take A LOT of time setting the date.
I bought the SSK003K1 put a milled clasp on the stock bracelet and replaced the crystal with a double domed sapphire crystal with AR coating on it. Also put a 24hr. ceramic insert on the original bezel. The watch now looks absolutely amazing!!! 😍
Personally I'm torn between getting the orange one now and waiting for other colors, because I know they're going to come out with tons of different ones. Standard MO of waiting 6 months before getting these means the price will go down... Unless they're not going to discount this much because it's a new movement. But yeah, I think that orange is a must have. They executed it well. And I'm not one to complain about the water resistance. My brother was just in Hawaii and dove with sharks, swam in the ocean and all that jazz with a watch that didn't have a screw down crown and everything was fine. I've been swimming with watches that aren't 200m and everything is fine. They're not going to leak, nothing's going to happen to them. It's fine. 😂
Nice Water Sports / Dress Watch, however; Sapphire Crystal and better milled clasp are a must at this price point. Many thanks Rob for this quick review.
GMT watches (especially with a rotating bezel), unlike dual and world time watches, are supposed to be set to GMT. Home time is the normal hand stack and local time is the bezel. Unless you move to a new home or actually need to track a third timezone, you shouldn’t notice the difference between "caller" and "traveller's" GMT because once the GMT and home times are set up, you aren't supposed to change them.
A ‘jumping’ hour hand is neat way to correct home time during dst shifts, but it saves you no actual steps. Otherwise, it’s a great fidget spinner for the gmt enthusiasts - who are, nearly inevitably, using them as dual-timers.
The orange one is a stunner. However, the problem is that the GMT hand looks almost identical as the minute hand. It's very easy to mix them up at first glance, at least in the video. I think they should combine it with a few improvements such as a screw down crown, milled clasp and a sapphire crystal. They would be able to sell it at a higher price then, I guess.
Just picked up ssk001 from my saiko dealer. Even though I wasn’t really looking to buy another watch, He gave me a great discount and I picked one up for $325! Love the watch, will have to get a different clasp. The standard seiko one is awful.
Just bought(week ago) ssk003, nice watch 1 OCD issue, the date magnifier seems to be slightly lower than centered over the date field! Am I daft or what?
Hey Rob I just received my SSK005 Orange Face GMT. It does not say "Made in Japan" at the 6 oclock - should I return it. I got it on Amazon but the dealer on Amazon said all their watches are made in Japan. Any advise would be appreciated. Thank you.
Great video, Rob!! For me, the single best thing about this release is that it means the NH version (NH34?) of this movement will be available for microbrands.. Zelos has already planned a GMT version of their Blacktip skindiver (presumably with this movement). Marc from Longislandwatch has indicated he will have an Islander watch with this movement.. Every single one of these microbrands is going to outclass the seiko in terms of finishing and specs (sapphire crystal, better bracelets and clasps, better case finishing etc)
Why would they when it works? Seriously, this community has been obsessed with "specs". I have an original Seiko monster from 2004 that I wore daily for 8 straight years and nothing happened to it. I never scratched the crystal and the clasp never failed me. I still have that watch, and the clasp still hasn't failed me. Many people have decades old Seikos where are the clasp is perfectly fine. Hell, Rolex didn't move to a milled clasp until 2003 or something. I don't like them, personally. They're too bulky under the wrist and they pinch. I would rather take the slimmer profile of a stamped clasp any day. I've been in this hobby too long and handled too many watches to care too much about whether a watch is "specc'ed out". If something works, it works. You don't need to change it because people on the internet say you should.
I agree with what you are saying. I have some older watches and most have stamped clasps and they work fine. My point is that for $500 would it be too much to ask to evolve to an improved bracelet? The existing one works but an improvement would be appreciated.
@@elarson312 I would agree that sapphire is definitely needed at the $500 price point and Seiko drags their feet on that (most likely due to a lot of money invested in hardlex and a lot of hardlex sitting around needing to be used), but I just simply don't like milled clasps (my opinion). And I don't think they necessarily improve watches. I have handled so many watches that are decades old and the clasps are not milled and they still work perfectly fine. Watches from the '60s, '70s, '80s, etc. I don't think milled clasps are an "upgrade" that much, beyond the feeling of extra solidity. Unless you have something built inside them like an adjustment mechanism and you need a milled construction.
Out of all the 3 watches, not even 1 has an aligned chapter ring. Seiko at its best! And don't get me wrong, I love the watch and actually own an orange one (that also came misaligned and that I had to ask someone to fix it). But it's just unfortunate that a brand like Seiko has been doing this for 20+years and don't seem to care. On these particular GMT models, I would even go as far as saying that most units have the misaligment problems - it's just crazy.
@@longnetter to me and various other people it matters. And yes you can see the misalignments at arms length. And it actually affects the reading of the GMT hand. If a damn 50bucks Casio or Timex can be perfectly aligned why should we accept a 400bucks Seiko to not be? I don't and nowadays I just return them when it happens (with Seiko it happens with most of them). But to each their own. If you can live with and enjoy a misaligned watch, great.
@@longnetter i currently have 4 and they are all fine. But I had to return and rebuy several or even send them to a watchmaker to fix various issues. Seiko's QC is just garbage and that's a known issue. Just do a quick search. I love Seiko because it's the brand that made me fall in love with watches back in the days....but nowadays I'm leaning more to Citizen when I want a japanese watch. Seiko upped their prices without upping their quality. Citizen offers incredible value still...with their Tsuyosas, NY0040s, NB1050 etc
@@caomhan84 I don’t trust watches that have a 10 Bar specification I listen to Hamilton owners, after swimming in a pool, who bought 10 Bar rated watches complain about dampness on the crystal
@@greglewis20 Well I've never had a problem, and as I said in my comment above in the thread, my brother was just in Hawaii with his 10 bar watch, and he swam with sharks and was at the beach in the water constantly. I asked him, and he said it's fine. Nothing happened. You don't need 200 m of water resistance on everything. And if you're going to be swimming, or in the shower and need to wear your watch, just take one of your divers. I'm sure you have several. 100m isn't a reason not to buy this watch, or any watch.
I’d take the “caller” gmt anyday. I can imagine only a few scenarios where the “traveler” GMT would me better. Most of the time I’m in one time zone, but need to randomly check time for other time zones of my interest. And if I’m out of my time zone, it’s usually for a day or two max, and I find no issue in checking the time using the GmT hand. I find no quick date set a big issue, when I pick up a watch that doesn’t have it it can take A LOT of time setting the date.
Totally agree!
I have as much need of a GMT as I do a third nipple, but still I'm tempted!
Yes I agree Francisco Scarmanga.
I bought the SSK003K1 put a milled clasp on the stock bracelet and replaced the crystal with a double domed sapphire crystal with AR coating on it. Also put a 24hr. ceramic insert on the original bezel. The watch now looks absolutely amazing!!! 😍
imgur plz,, would love to do the same
Where did you get the bezel insert?
@@mariog7213 I bought the bezel insert and the sapphire crystal from DLW.
If it had the things you mentioned PLUS a screw down cap, I would buy it.
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I love this release because it makes me hopeful for future GMT prospex models, but these are already very cool
I absolutely love my Orange Ssk005 it goes very nice with my Orioles Attire!
And to be honest we just love that GMT hand on the dial because it makes the watch look cooler
Personally I'm torn between getting the orange one now and waiting for other colors, because I know they're going to come out with tons of different ones. Standard MO of waiting 6 months before getting these means the price will go down... Unless they're not going to discount this much because it's a new movement. But yeah, I think that orange is a must have. They executed it well. And I'm not one to complain about the water resistance. My brother was just in Hawaii and dove with sharks, swam in the ocean and all that jazz with a watch that didn't have a screw down crown and everything was fine. I've been swimming with watches that aren't 200m and everything is fine. They're not going to leak, nothing's going to happen to them. It's fine. 😂
Nice Water Sports / Dress Watch, however; Sapphire Crystal and better milled clasp are a must at this price point. Many thanks Rob for this quick review.
This whole "real" gmt topic is so beaten to death. Both accomplish the same end goal imo 😁👌.
GMT watches (especially with a rotating bezel), unlike dual and world time watches, are supposed to be set to GMT. Home time is the normal hand stack and local time is the bezel. Unless you move to a new home or actually need to track a third timezone, you shouldn’t notice the difference between "caller" and "traveller's" GMT because once the GMT and home times are set up, you aren't supposed to change them.
A ‘jumping’ hour hand is neat way to correct home time during dst shifts, but it saves you no actual steps. Otherwise, it’s a great fidget spinner for the gmt enthusiasts - who are, nearly inevitably, using them as dual-timers.
Thanks Rob for the in-depth review. 👍⌚🇯🇵
Nice Water Sports / Dress Watch, however; Sapphire Crystal is a must at this price point. Many thanks Rob for this quick review.
Solid polished centerpeices in bracelet too!
The orange one is a stunner. However, the problem is that the GMT hand looks almost identical as the minute hand. It's very easy to mix them up at first glance, at least in the video. I think they should combine it with a few improvements such as a screw down crown, milled clasp and a sapphire crystal. They would be able to sell it at a higher price then, I guess.
Regarding the similar color of the GMT hand on the 005, that's exactly why I went with the 003 Blueberry.
Good point about the hour hand. Since it isn't a diver anymore, they don't need an arrow minute hand. Should have been a regular baton.
No need for a screw down crown. Its not a diver
these are great.. I would have thought a 24 click gmt bezel would also be good.
Agree, also add sapphire crystal and screw down crown.
When you mention Seiko Turtle GMT, it blew my mind. Yeah that will be awesome! King Turtle GMT...
I’ve been looking forward to your review of these.
Just picked up ssk001 from my saiko dealer. Even though I wasn’t really looking to buy another watch, He gave me a great discount and I picked one up for $325! Love the watch, will have to get a different clasp. The standard seiko one is awful.
tell him i would like one as well lol
Just bought(week ago) ssk003, nice watch
1 OCD issue, the date magnifier seems to be slightly lower than centered over the date field! Am I daft or what?
Rob, what kind of jubilee bracelet is that on your Turtle? I've been looking for a good replacement.
Strapcode
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Just got the black GMT 5. Looks like a $5,000 watch
I have the black version but that blue is stunning. Mine is running +5.5s/day.
Digging the orange. They are all great looking though.
They better release a Pepsi ASAP!
I got the batman and looks $1k value! Nice Seiko!❤
What is the new Citizen watch coming out you mentioned? thnx
Blue dial or black dial pls just quick answer
I’m torn between the orange and the blue one. I’m leaning towards orange.
Hey Rob I just received my SSK005 Orange Face GMT. It does not say "Made in Japan" at the 6 oclock - should I return it. I got it on Amazon but the dealer on Amazon said all their watches are made in Japan. Any advise would be appreciated. Thank you.
I like the orange dial.
It's different.
Have you try will that Clockworkrepublic strap fit on these gmt models ? Thank you
Where did you get that rubber strap with the steel end links from I want for my skx007
They're from Clockwork Republic
@@SuperMariooo25 awesome thank you
Be happy that we got what we got...
I been wearing the Black Seiko 5 GMT as my daily lately...
Great video, Rob!!
For me, the single best thing about this release is that it means the NH version (NH34?) of this movement will be available for microbrands..
Zelos has already planned a GMT version of their Blacktip skindiver (presumably with this movement). Marc from Longislandwatch has indicated he will have an Islander watch with this movement.. Every single one of these microbrands is going to outclass the seiko in terms of finishing and specs (sapphire crystal, better bracelets and clasps, better case finishing etc)
I'm not a snob but brand equity matters. Seiko is Seiko.
Which dial color is better blue or black?
No sapphire crystal and clicking rotating bezel was a big mistake
Strapcode bracelet for the SRPD series fits the SSK series
if Seiko made SSK001, SSK003 SSK005.. What is SSK002 SSK004 and SSK006?
Looking forward to the movement in microbrands.
Will a 5kx strapcode bracelet fit on these?
This one is growing on me.
if they release a pepsi colorway id buy instantly
Great video!
Ssk003 or Srpd51k2?
I think we will get a 013 gmt
what strap is on the skx009?
Would it kill Seiko just to improve the clasp?
Why would they when it works? Seriously, this community has been obsessed with "specs". I have an original Seiko monster from 2004 that I wore daily for 8 straight years and nothing happened to it. I never scratched the crystal and the clasp never failed me. I still have that watch, and the clasp still hasn't failed me. Many people have decades old Seikos where are the clasp is perfectly fine. Hell, Rolex didn't move to a milled clasp until 2003 or something.
I don't like them, personally. They're too bulky under the wrist and they pinch. I would rather take the slimmer profile of a stamped clasp any day. I've been in this hobby too long and handled too many watches to care too much about whether a watch is "specc'ed out". If something works, it works. You don't need to change it because people on the internet say you should.
I agree with what you are saying. I have some older watches and most have stamped clasps and they work fine. My point is that for $500 would it be too much to ask to evolve to an improved bracelet? The existing one works but an improvement would be appreciated.
@@elarson312 I would agree that sapphire is definitely needed at the $500 price point and Seiko drags their feet on that (most likely due to a lot of money invested in hardlex and a lot of hardlex sitting around needing to be used), but I just simply don't like milled clasps (my opinion). And I don't think they necessarily improve watches. I have handled so many watches that are decades old and the clasps are not milled and they still work perfectly fine. Watches from the '60s, '70s, '80s, etc. I don't think milled clasps are an "upgrade" that much, beyond the feeling of extra solidity. Unless you have something built inside them like an adjustment mechanism and you need a milled construction.
‼️the discount code on your bio should be “SPORT” not “SPORTS”
Why not pepsi...
Orange you glad I didn't say, "go green or go home"?
This is a huge hit for Seiko! Can you imagine if they actually put a screw down crown on the GMT models?
I’m almost sure you’re not gonna dive over 100m, buddy…
@@ulissesmosca666 100m isn't for good for any more than skin diving and water sports! You could never use this with compressed air at any depth!
This watch is not for diving but is good for swimming, snorkling, skin diving, jet skeeing, boat riding and surface water sports.
Hi Rob actually it’s Quality control who pull me away from Seiko. Cheers I like your videos.
Out of all the 3 watches, not even 1 has an aligned chapter ring. Seiko at its best! And don't get me wrong, I love the watch and actually own an orange one (that also came misaligned and that I had to ask someone to fix it). But it's just unfortunate that a brand like Seiko has been doing this for 20+years and don't seem to care. On these particular GMT models, I would even go as far as saying that most units have the misaligment problems - it's just crazy.
But can you see a micro mis alignment at half arms length 🤔.
It will be so micro small it wont make any difference what so ever on the time 🤦♂️
@@longnetter to me and various other people it matters. And yes you can see the misalignments at arms length. And it actually affects the reading of the GMT hand.
If a damn 50bucks Casio or Timex can be perfectly aligned why should we accept a 400bucks Seiko to not be? I don't and nowadays I just return them when it happens (with Seiko it happens with most of them). But to each their own. If you can live with and enjoy a misaligned watch, great.
@@tiagodvt i have 2 seiko's there's no problems with either of them 🤷♂️
@@longnetter i currently have 4 and they are all fine. But I had to return and rebuy several or even send them to a watchmaker to fix various issues. Seiko's QC is just garbage and that's a known issue. Just do a quick search.
I love Seiko because it's the brand that made me fall in love with watches back in the days....but nowadays I'm leaning more to Citizen when I want a japanese watch. Seiko upped their prices without upping their quality. Citizen offers incredible value still...with their Tsuyosas, NY0040s, NB1050 etc
Must be 200m for me.
Thanks for posting this video
Why?
@@caomhan84 I don’t trust watches that have a 10 Bar specification
I listen to Hamilton owners, after swimming in a pool, who bought 10 Bar rated watches complain about dampness on the crystal
I don’t trust 10 bar watches . Not even in a shower
@@greglewis20 Well I've never had a problem, and as I said in my comment above in the thread, my brother was just in Hawaii with his 10 bar watch, and he swam with sharks and was at the beach in the water constantly. I asked him, and he said it's fine. Nothing happened.
You don't need 200 m of water resistance on everything. And if you're going to be swimming, or in the shower and need to wear your watch, just take one of your divers. I'm sure you have several. 100m isn't a reason not to buy this watch, or any watch.
I know, the Rolex GMT-Master II is such a garbage watch, only 10 bar water resistance.
That doesn't look like solid endlinks to me.
They are
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Not bad.
I can't stand date magnifiers...
Beautiful watches, too bad they're not quartz.
They should release quartz versions as well!