When does OCPD start?
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- Опубліковано 23 бер 2017
- When does OCPD start? Episode 003
This episode will be the first in a three-part series focusing on my personal experiences with OCPD. For this video, I explain what it was like being a kid with OCPD pre-diagnosis. I hope the fact that I even made it through these years encourages others that are suffering and gives hope that it's possible to make it through. I did not seek out nearly enough outside help with my mental illness during my youth and I'd like to push those struggling to talk to someone as soon as possible.
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OCPD: My Life In Debris is a channel dedicated to helping sufferers of obsessive compulsive personality disorder and those dealing with the people in their life that are afflicted with this personality disorder. We will delve into topics covering detailed explanations of the disorder, exploring treatment options, interviews with sufferers, how to live with the disorder, interviews with those that have people in their life with OCPD, and talks with treatment professionals. In addition, we will explore personality disorders and mental health disorders and how to navigate the world when these are a part of your daily life.
最近、日本でパーソナリティ障害クラスターC 群がますます増えてきている点で、私注意 を引きました。こようなことが起きている理由を説明する困難ですが、日本文化がそ 一端を担っていると考える不自然でないでしょう。チャネルアナリティクスを確認し てみると、私コンテンツにアジア、特に日本から関心が寄せられていることがわかりま す。こチャンネル目的、できるだけ多く人にメッセージを届け、役に立ててもらうことな で、動画を日本語字幕付きで提供することにしました。コンテンツ、特に「強迫性パーソナ リティ障害」をテーマにしています。強迫性パーソナリティ障害、日本でも多く見られる強迫 性障害と別疾患です。強迫性パーソナリティ障害、略して OCPD と呼れており、また 文献上で強迫性パーソナリティ障害 (Anankastic personality disorder (APD)) とも呼れて います。OCPD 、白か黒か思考と完璧主義的な特徴を持つ障害です。実際特徴、 るかに複雑ですが、それを説明するために動画を用意しました。内容がお役に立てれ、ある い少なくとも情報として参考にしていただけれ幸いです。ご覧いただきありがとうございま した。また、以下にお気軽にコメントをお寄せください。
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I don't have OCPD or OCD.
Like you, I have issues with my father, who does have OCPD, who refuses to go to a psychologist for it and self~medicates with alcohol.
I don't have a normal relationship with my father.
The reason I am watching your channel is to try to understand my father a little
better.
Thanks for sharing.
Stefanya De Castaneda I'm sorry that you are having to endure that type of relationship. I hope that somehow things improve in time. The next video I put out on this channel will be specifically of loved ones of those with OCPD. I hope that it is helpful in some small way.
They get worse according to research
Sometimes drinking makes me feel like I can loosen and just have fun and be “normal” and not overthink. If I drink when I paint, I’m not over critical of myself. That’s all I have, I don’t drink much, or paint or dance now for that matter, but a little insight might be able to help. Good luck
@@bd4947wow well said and written. Great insight. Thank you!
I have to respond to the last point, not rectify the initial comment on the thread, but to give my personal insight. I was recently diagnosed with OCPD and I feel a weight has been lifted off my shoulders. I’m researching everything like a OCPD would, but not to disprove it, but because after the realisation of the people I’ve hurt because of my frustration, anger, expectation, standards etc. I truly thought it was them, I would win my arguments and feel justified. Thinking good, I taught someone something, like I made them a better person. As we are perfectionists this has gotten to me because of empathy, I desperately and genuinely want to be better to others.
Although, I struggled to be around people for more than a couple of hours at a time, now I feel that it’s justified. Not just for me, but now mainly for them. I’m an extrovert generally one of the loudest most talkative people in a room, but this is countered by my need for everyone to be perfect around my set of rules and I generally feel others are not the brightest. Correcting people is my weakness. I see something happening over and over and I can’t help but to comment, and again embarrassingly thinking I’m fixing them. I have noticed I do this prior to being diagnosed, probably because others have told me, but I struggle to stop it from happening. Argh!
I’m incredibly joyful now that I’m doing constant research on OCPD, I feel like I’ve found my people. My answers.
My neighbours couldn’t understand why my garden has to always be perfect. My wife could never understand why the car always had to be clean inside out. Why it would cause anxiety when items weren’t where they are suppose to be or when they are where they are not suppose to be. Colleges would clap when I would make a mistake. My sporting teams would apologise for making a mistake, but I didn’t say anything or ask for it, and I’d be the only one to be apologised to. I have been complained about at work for not saying that I’m better, but for giving off the aura/vibe. I would irritate people with my constant need to study relentlessly before buying anything. I can walk in to a room and not say a word and people nor I would understand why… but I reflect, I truly believe it was because things weren’t where they were supposed to be. I could go on, but I won’t.
I would add for the initial comment, I refuse to drink alcohol, apart of me wanting to better myself I guess. But I agree with one of the other comments that it does relax my very strict structure. I hope the relationship between your dad and yourself has improved with the amazing comments by the good people above.
OCPD as well here, and I had a similar experience with a teacher. I was in second grade. The problem started over the most ridiculously insignificant thing: how I hold a pencil. This teacher was determined to break me of my habit of holding a pencil "incorrectly" and it became a huge, ongoing thing. She would call me out in front of the class which I found humiliating, or make me stay in at recess to write endlessly. I started getting physically sick after a while; every morning I was nauseous and vomiting. Like you, this eventually led to doctors and hospitals and endless tests that couldn't find anything wrong with me. Over a fucking pencil. Eventually one doctor told my parents to ask me if there was anything upsetting me at school. They met with my teacher and got her to back off and I survived second grade. 25 years later I still hold a pen "incorrectly", and there are a few other things at work or at home that I will only ever do a certain way because it's the only correct way for me.
Meredith Bates so sorry to hear about that. When a teacher is great it's a magical thing for kids. And every teacher is different. But there are a lot of bad ones out there as well and I think parents should be more mindful about what's going on in the classroom. I'm glad that the doctors eventually got to the bottom of it and that she backed off. More importantly you still get to hold you pencil 'your way' ;) Thanks for sharing your story with me.
Meredith Bates I feel your pain. I had a teacher in 4th grade who was
Like a dictator tyrant and she played favorites in class more obviously than any other teacher I have ever known. She would be described as “ strict” but it was far beyond that and abusive. It can be very dangerous for a person with a dark temperament mixed with ocpd
to be around children in their formative years.
Meredith Bates I feel your pain. I had a teacher in 4th grade who was
Like a dictator tyrant and she played favorites in class more obviously than any other teacher I have ever known. She would be described as “ strict” but it was far beyond that and abusive. It can be very dangerous for a person with a dark temperament mixed with ocpd
to be around children in their formative years.
@@doartichaut9031 imagine if your dad was the teacher and he had ocpd and was my teacher. Smh
The Sarge that makes for a very hard situation for a child.
This videos opens my eyes on so many things about my childhood. I remember as a kid, I had to change my clothes everytime I would spill something on it or had a stain. I never made a case of it but now it makes sense.
Maude Baillargeon thanks for sharing your similar experience. It's nice to know we're not alone with these thoughts and feelings.
Dude i understand how u feel about your symptoms. You arent crazy and those thoughts werent crazy. You were simply suffering from a disorder. Its not your shame or your fault. Big hug bro!
The Sarge thanks so much! I love receiving the support. I hope you're well.
I also have OCPD and I realize now that I had anxiety about "contamination" when I was a kid. I was unwilling to sit in the same chair as someone I didn't like. There were a few boys at school I thought were gross (lol, kids) and I would carefully keep track of which chairs they sat in to make sure I didn't end up sitting in the same one. If I did have to sit in the same chair as someone I didn't like, I would perch on the corner of it to make sure I was touching as little of it as possible. My other big germ anxiety was (and still is) around feet. I get super grossed out if I have to sleep with my head touching the end of the blanket that had previously been at my feet.
Thank you for shedding light on these childhood behaviors--they make sense to me!
Elizabeth Fritzler those are very relatable experiences. I love when people share their own specific traits, because in the big picture I think it helps others to feel not so alone. I hope that these things are not still causing anxiety.
@@OCPD_support I agree, it definitely helps to know others struggle with similar issues. I can at least sit in chairs like a normal person now, but the feet thing still kinda bothers me 😂 Thanks for the video and reply!
I suffer from OCPD and had the same persistent cough issue around that age. I did several tests with specialists, no allergies came up, and was however misdiagnosed for a while as having asthma but after some more years, another specialist concluded that the issue was psychosomatic.
Tawsif Elahi Chowdhury it's absolutely incredible how are bodies can choose to respond to stress. It's equally parts fascinating and frustrating. Thank you for sharing your experience.
Wow that takes balls to be open like that. It's extremely admirable and it helps me feel not alone! Thank you
Sionnach Psy you're very welcome. It's worth the hard work for feedback like that. Thank you!
I appreciate your honesty with us about what you faced in your early years. I too have OCPD - diagnosed a year and a half ago. I found a similarity in having a strict upbringing although mine was due to my step-father being in the military. One thing that I really regret about my elementary, middle, and high school days is that I would never turn in incomplete assignments. In the fourth grade I had 53 missing assignments because we had weekly packets and I would never turn in the packets that asked for definitions (even though they were complete aside from the definitions) because I didn’t have access to a dictionary or the internet to look them up and I didn’t want to get in trouble or mocked for turning in an incomplete assignment (that avoidance method didn’t work very well because my teacher told my entire class that I was missing those assignments). A lot of my early years were dictated by me setting perfectionist standards for myself as a defense mechanism against getting in trouble. It could even be seen with me breaking up with guys solely because I didn’t want to get in trouble with my parents. I feel like that all ties in with my OCPD and it’s probably the earliest signs I can think of.
+Cristina Chavez-Arnst those definitely sound as though they could be early symptoms of OCPD. My father was in the military as well. If science determines that OCPD is more nurture than nature, I’d suspect that there might be a higher propensity for OCPD in military families.
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So, I've been doing my research on OCPD for a few days now as I somehow stumbled upon it. I have been struggling with my mental health for a while now, and although my symptoms and anxieties tend to be manageable a good part of the time, I still feel like I need to do a lot of work on myself. From what I've read about OCPD, it appears to be exactly what I have been experiencing most of my life. I thought for so long that I had to have OCD, but all of the symptoms never seemed to fit well enough. After discovering OCPD a few days ago, I feel like I'm having a revelation and everything makes more sense now. Especially in this video, when you mentioned the not allowing friends to sit on or touch your bed thing. HOLY SHIT. I can relate to this exact thing! When you were saying you don't know how to explain why something or someone would be contaminated afterwards I was literally shouting at my screen "I GET IT! YES!". Thank you so much for the work you having been doing with this channel and your resource website as well. I'm still unsure about whether or not I actually have OCPD, but in the mean time just knowing there are other people out there who get at least some of my crazy thoughts, really helps. Keep on doing you man!
Mallory thank you for sharing so much. My favorite comments are always the ones that go beyond the video and allow others to see that they are not alone in the comment section. The channel has been hibernating for a little while, but I'm filming three new episodes next week and hoping to have them out the week after. I think the more information out there on mental health and things we can do to improve it at this time, the better. Thanks so much for watching and sharing.
Your age?
@@frankskool1351 why?
@@artsyswarley It matters
@@frankskool1351 23 when I wrote this comment, 26 now
This is so brave of you. I found your video because I'm interested in psychology and I wanted to hear a first hand account of Ocpd. Thanks for sharing.
Deepti Boddapati I'm happy you found the information useful and thanks for watching. If you have any questions please let me know.
wow, I can relate to this. I've never experienced it to this magnitude but I know exactly what you're talking about. on a fundamental level it involves becoming fearfully obsessive about controlling contact between objects (in relation to oneself and some idea of contamination). it's been like an undercurrent that has occasionally manifested in times of stress in my life.
Mithra Semiramis I would echo that stress exacerbates this. Every time I think I have everything completely under control, along comes so terrifying life event I wasn't expecting and there go my old symptoms flaring up. The advantage I have now is that I recognize them much sooner and I have plans of action to curb them.
The part you said about “contamination” is 100%. Totally get what you mean. And the pandemic didn’t make it easier. Like I can’t sit on my sofa with clothes that I wore outside and I get so anxious when guests do.
knife3 this pandemic has challenged all of us in ways we never even thought possible.
OMG!!! As I am watching this... I’m like re-living my own life as a child... I HAD EXACTLY those same symptoms. I remember that I would carry a piece a cloth with me to open door knobs and another one to sit on in public places... the idea of kissing someone on the cheek was so horrific that I would cry when someone was coming over just to think my parents would suggest for me to shake their hand or kiss them goodby.
Liz Legal I'm just seeing this comment and realizing I'm replying to them out of order. Sorry about that. I can definitely feel your pain when it comes to handshakes. Disgusting! This virus situation is a tragedy/comedy for us, as it validates our worst fears and puts us in the position of being right. But we aren't really right and in the end it will only complicate our rationalizing. We need to be diligent with our symptoms right now, but that's where a good therapist comes in.
Sounds like OCD, not OCPD
I was diagnosed with OCPD today. I developed an eating disorder over guilt of something I knew I didn’t do in 4th grade. I felt I didn’t deserve to eat because of how I’d disappointed my parents. I’m just now realizing how unfair I was being with myself.
autumn Garcia while any sort of mental health diagnosis can be difficult to hear or accept, it's a major step towards a happier future. It's amazing how these childhood experiences can carry over into adulthood. I'm grateful to therapy for helping me to identify the moments in my life that were more impactful than I gave them credit for. By identifying them, I can face them with hindsight and the tools I've developed from therapy. I hope that this is the beginning of you being much more fair to yourself. Wishing you all the best!
Since my parents divorce at 7 years old I have been under a lot of stress. I was raised by my father who was very strict, a military man that didn't allow me to show emotion. He basically treated me like I was a Marine.
Since 10 years old I have been running a household and taking care of my 2 sisters. I couldn't control my overwhelming feelings of helplessness, sadness and anger but I could control the outward things. So I started cleaning and organizing obsessively, my control issues became very prominent from this point forward. Around 12 I developed an overwhelming obsession with spelling in my head,the worse my situation got the more overwhelming that obsession became. I became withdrawn from communicating so everything in my head was amplified.
Realizing now my survival skills as a child was the beginning development of OCPD, which has been more harmful than helpful in my adult life. At 19 I found out alcohol helped soothed my overactive mind. As time went on so did my self destructive behavior, for 9 years I self medicated with alcohol, nicotine and marijuana. At 29 years old with a newfound diagnosis and 260 days of sobriety I am on the right track and untangling my life a little more everyday.
jessi burt thank you for sharing such an inspiring comment. Your childhood was much different to mine, but there are situations that would parallel mine and at least give me a glimpse into what you would have been going through. I understand the spelling thing. I had something similar that I would do in my mind. It helped to stop the swarm of negative thoughts.
Congratulations on the sobriety. I'm in a bit of a forced sobriety at the moment. I've never had a drinking problem (although it runs in the family), but I'm now on new meds that cannot be combined with alcohol. I'm sure it's good for me in the long run. However, I know how insanely difficult quitting can be, so you should be very proud of yourself.
I would also like to add I just started a Group on facebook called Learning to Lead with OCPD. I created my safe place to Learn and Lead while I share my story. I would love if you would join my group, if you could let me know if you have an account I can use to add you.
thank you for sharing, Darryl.
Ann Goswick you are very welcome.
Your timeline was the very same as mine. The things you and did were very similar. By the time I was 10 or 11 years old, I was getting to be agitated. That time in my life, no one said anything to me. That part of the OCPD didn't come until I was in my late 40's. Now, I'm really bad that no one wants to be around me, which I completely understand. I don't either!
Mary Herron I'm really sorry to hear that you share similarities to me, as I'm not my own biggest fan either. But the good news is that despite all of my many shortcomings, there are plenty of people that still want to be around me. It's a result of a lot of introspection, hard work and therapeutic techniques, but if you take your disorder seriously, there is plenty of time to work on repairing relationships and building new ones.
I understand what you mean...i get anxious just thinking about it too. Sometimes i try to hide it but other times i can't. So trust me i kniw, it isn't easy to be like this esp. with my loved ones.
RCPMusic well we can both empathize with each other :) But it does get better with treatment over time. Much better!
I appreciate your videos. I don't have OCPD, but I've been seeing a counselor for anxiety issues and my counselor mentioned that my mother sounds like she has OCPD. After further research, I think she and my sister have it and my Dad has OCD traits as well. So homelife was fun. These videos are very helpful.
Emily Weaver thank you so much for your comment. I'm glad that the videos are helpful for you. My latest video talks about having a family member with OCPD and you might find that interesting. Thanks for watching. Please let me know if you have any questions.
It's bizarre how similar some of these events are in your story are to mine; I was bullied quite badly by a teacher when I was about 7 and then again with a different teacher at 10, and I spent months being sick each time, my body practically shutting down. My childhood obsessions weren't about physical cleanliness per se, but rather actions and thoughts, and me being fastidious about being religiously dirty; I remember as a young child (4 or so) thinking I did something wrong and banging my head against the wall because I felt like I couldn't correct what I had done and there was no way I could undo it in the right way (which sounds absolutely bonkers, but there u go). I was bullied pretty relentlessly until about 15-ish; I had skipped two grades so was much younger than my peers which contributed to me being odd and unliked. I also have a father who has OCD & OCPD, as well as a mother who has control issues. It's very interesting how our childhoods shape us.
You don’t sound bonkers :) Our minds are fascinating in all they ways they function and dysfunction. And yes, it would seem that we have some close similarities in our youth. I hope that you are coping well and I really appreciate you sharing a little bit of your story with me. Thank you.
I was recently diagnosed and just found your channel cuz I want to get better. Thank you.
Gypsy Feet thank you. Please let me know if you ever have any questions and thanks for watching.
I have OCPD too. I found your story very interesting. Although there are differences between your story and mine, there is a big similarity. I grew up in a strict religion as well. I was brought up as a Mormon in Utah. Do you mind saying what religion you were in? If not, I understand as that can be very personal. I'm just curious because I have my suspicions that my religious upbringing has had a significant impact on my OCPD.
Hi Trevor,
If you'd like to email me at darryl@rawsignalproductions.com I'd be happy to discuss some of the details missing from the story. Thanks for checking out the video.
Thank you...
Kel Hayes you're welcome. And thank you for watching.
I'm a bit late to the punch on these videos, but they're still helpful and informative nonetheless. Darryl, you and I have been emailing a bit so you already know some of my background, but I wanted to comment on when and how I believe my symptoms started. It was probably around the time my parents divorced when I was 12. I didn't have many friends, and I was constantly bullied. I was different from most girls in that I hung out with the boys, I didn't wear makeup or or nice clothes, and it didn't help that I was getting good grades in all my classes. I was a huge target. Combine this with the internal hell I was going through with my father who walked out on us, and you get pre-OCPD Anna. I quickly became unhealthily over attached to my mom to the point where I would tell her literally everything about my day when I came home from school. I had constant racing, intrusive thoughts which probably led to a childhood psychologist misdiagnosing me with OCD. I spent most of my life believing I had a disorder I didn't actually have, and I'm just now scratching the surface of OCPD, but I relate so much on the issues during the developmental stages. They can have such a detrimental effect on who we become as an adult, and I'm so far into it at this point I feel like I don't even know who I am sometimes.
Thank you for making these videos, you are truly an inspiration.
Yoshi_banana one common thing I find with people with OCPD that are in therapy, is their resistance and reluctance to delve into their own past. They see the issues that they face as being "in the moment". They struggle to see how there is a connection to their childhood and they feel it's a waste of time to "go there". However, it's pretty well documented at this point that your developing years have a tremendous impact on the development of OCPD traits. So by recognizing this, you're already ahead of the game, so to speak.
Thank you for sharing such personal experiences. I felt a lot of empathy about it. I’m sure for you it is hard to share specific rituals and obsessions you had. I didn’t find them offensive or crazy. Maybe it makes sense in some respects because I relate to having developing my own rituals and obsessions.
I’m betting you are like me in that you don’t like to be pitied. So know that I don’t pity you. I do have empathy and I do want to say I’m sorry for the pain you experienced. I personally have found someone saying they’re sorry for the things I went through has given me validation and that’s been something that has helped me.
For me, I can share that I had experiences at certain ages that affected my behavior. I’m not sure how much I want to share publicly but I can share ages. And I share only to help anyone else who may be trying to find patterns or help in understanding their own situation. I noticed major changes in my behavior due to experiences that happened in my life at ages 2, 4, 7, 10, 13 and 14. I had major experiences also at ages 19 and 25. I guess I’m willing to share more in detail if anyone asked. This is a place where no one knows who I am so it’s not too uncomfortable for me to do that. In a video? I doubt I could! Mad respect, Darryl!
Chlink Ink definitely challenging to share openly. But I think these videos are far less valuable if I don't. And for sure I'm not doing any of this for pity, nor do I need pity. But I absolutely appreciate your comments and your empathy.
Thanks for sharing some of your information. Any and all information that people choose to share in the comments I find personally comforting, informational and beneficial. And I know that others that read the comments feel the same way.
One last thing, if I don't respond to some of your comments I apologize. UA-cam has a folder it puts comments into if they think they might be spam (if they include a link for example). They don't even notify me that they are there (I really hate this platform sometimes). Anyway, I saw that there were a couple of comments that needed approval and one or two of those were yours. Anyway, it doesn't tell me which video they are from, and when I approve them they just disappear. It doesn't allow me to comment on them at that point and I have no way of knowing where they went. It's truly frustrating. It was maddening with yours, but at least I knew they were yours and I could respond in another comment. Some of them are first time commenters and I have no way of ever finding and responding to them.
OCPD: My Life In Debris The first time commenters are pretty important. No worries if you don’t respond to all my comments. Truly. I didn’t expect you to respond as much as you have. I totally understand if you simply cannot do it.
Perhaps I will end up sharing more here if I can work up the courage and if it will possibly help someone else.
@@chlinkink7433 it's not easy to share. So please only share what you feel comfortable sharing. It would be nice if there were more anonymous places to swap stories and experiences.
I like your very real and genuine videos- respect ✊
sbecktacular thanks so much! These types of comments give me the energy to continue.
what symptoms criteria is necessary for the diagnosis.
The criteria can be found in the DSM-5. You can find a link to that information in my 'Are You One Of The 1%' video. Thanks.
I also had the bed problem, not in quite the same way though. But when friends would come over I was very uncomfortable with them sitting on my bed and touching my things, because everything had its place and my bed was my sanctuary
Julian Taylor I also had similar motivations as well, but the one I mention in the video was stronger. You say "had", have you been able to overcome your symptoms?
@@OCPD_support well I’ve been taking SSRI’s for anxiety and depression which has definitely allowed me to get over many symptoms. Also as you have mentioned before, it was a childhood symptom so I have grown out of that one mostly but maintained and gained other symptoms. I actually found out that I have OCPD because I was trying to get treated for GAD and learned later that it was likely the cause of my anxiety
@@juliantaylor5956 well either way, I'm happy you're getting treatment. I hope that the meds are working for you!
Let me know if you ever want to discuss with someone else who has OCDP
Hector Parson absolutely. What were you thinking?
I did notice when u have older siblings & a mom who has ocd they do all the cleaning while ur stilll young, and when they move out you replace their spot n be the cleaner & perfectionist. And I’m in a Hispanic household and female. It’s kinda expected of me & i naturally have it in me… but it gets exhausted.
Grace Flora there are definitely characteristics that I see baked into some cultures that tend to get inherited over time. Make sure that you set up boundaries as these things can continue to become more burdensome.
OCPD: Can Lyme disease cause mental health problems?
As with many chronic conditions, symptoms can be complex and severe chronic Lyme disease can lead to debilitating symptoms, other than fatigue, such as depression, bipolar disorder, panic attacks, weakness, or twitching. ... These can include memory impairment, dyslexia, seizures, anxiety, panic attacks and psychosis. Lyme is not only an STD but can also be contracted via placenta. This bacteria can remain in remission until some undue stress suppresses the immune system and then causes Lyme symptoms to surface. Considering you had OCD (dirty symptoms) it sounds like you might have contract Strep Throat before the age of about 13. Strep will cause an autoimmune reaction in the brain and this will cause OCD. You might look up PANDAS or PANS. I think you'll find your specific symptoms there. Strep Throat by the way is an opportunistic co-infection of Lyme disease.
Stephanya Lisova those are some very interesting observations. You've prompted me to do some research. I'm familiar with the connection between Lyme disease and depression, but not with other mental disorders. It's fascinating looking into this. I wasn't aware of the strep connection either and I'm reading about that right now. Thank you for your comment.
Where is the second episode of this pls pls provide link
#unity sorry that the link was not in the description for you. Here are the links.
Part 2: ua-cam.com/video/OEhin2dCh8U/v-deo.html
Part 3: ua-cam.com/video/7GgupPyKVu4/v-deo.html
Seems like you have both OCD with OCPD. I have seen someone develop a vocal as well an alternating physical tic from high levels of stress.
You should look into the PANDAS link to tics after having strep throat episodes or exposure to strep.
I had noticed this person would have symptoms of ocd and Tics return or become very pronounced after being sick usually a sore throat.
I’m not saying this occurs with everyone but I have heard that the PANDAS tic disorders is acquired usually after a bout of bad strep. Perhaps it creates an autoimmune response that’s triggers the symptoms or exacerbates OCD?
A XMysterygirlX I just did some research on PANDAS and it's really fascinating. Seems like it would be incredibly difficult to diagnose as the symptoms mimic many other disorders. Not to mention it's unclear how many of the listed symptoms a person would have to have to receive the PANDAS diagnosis. But it's sad how many things are out there to get us.
OCPD: My Life In Debris
I know several people who suffer from OCD as well as some who have only OCPD, then I have known
Yet others who have both of them. In my humble opinion I noticed that OCD runs in families and it could be both hereditary as well as nurture.
My best friend has OCD with scrupulosity so her OCD manifests through her religious beliefs.
My partner has a more mild ocd with anxiety disorder. He is on the. Austism spectrum ( formerly known as Aspergers).
His father definitely has a severe case of OCPD a with an emphasis on germs and cleanliness. He has 3 siblings (aunts and uncles of my partner) and I would say they all show differing degrees of OCD and OCPD. The grandmother their Mother has OCPD but not OCD. She is a hoarder now since the death of her husband. It appears that a trauma usually is tied with triggering the OCD or sometimes OCPD into an extreme.
I do not have this but I believe my son may have OCPD ( it started after the tics and hospitalization with what they called something close to Scarlett fever) and my ex husband (his father) has OCPD.
I believe their grandfather also manifest severe ocpd so all of this leads me to believe it has to be partially of not fully hereditary or at least being “ predisposed “ to having OCD or OCPD.
I know it must be difficult coping with this situation and hope you are able to find an outlet for your stress.
OCPD, BIPOLAR2 here. I completely understand. I was adopted at birth. I found my birth mother when I was 35. Genetics, in my case, played a big factor.
Chris Chandler that's always interesting to hear as there are some that believe it's all nurture and not nature. I think the evidence would lead a reasonable person to conclude it can be both. I hope that you're doing well with both of those things currently.
@@OCPD_support Well, I'm adapting and dealing with a lot of things that now have a name. Things that didn't make sense to me many years ago, well they do have a name now. Life goes on.
@@chrischandler7343 it certainly does. And it's more pleasant when we go along with it's twists and turns instead of fighting them every step of the way.
@@OCPD_support I found my birth family and am outcast from them as well, lol. C'est la vie I suppose. I have learned though, to live forward.
@@chrischandler7343 that's really rough. But sometimes the best families are the ones that we build ourselves.
i would be interested in hearing how you deal with stress and also about maladaptive schemas that people with OCPD have. edit: oh, and also, is hypochondria a common issue? i could google it, i'm sure, but the story of your symptoms growing up reminded me of my own struggle with hypochondria
tbmcnation thanks for the questions. They are broad, and that isn't a bad thing, but that means that they are very complex to answer. For stress, I try to manage my life in a way so as to reduce the opportunities for unnecessary stressful situations. I try to manage my time and my reactions to things that are out of my control. But I still find myself facing quite a bit of stress despite that. So meditation or quiet alone time is very important. Exercise, eating a diet that works for me and practicing mindfulness are very helpful as well. Things still become overwhelming though and when they do I try to be as productive as possible so that when the fog clears I haven't let myself slip backwards. There are a lot of things I do and a lot of things that I have to manage and I will continue to discuss those things in future videos.
If you could give me examples of the types of maladaptive schemas you're referring to I'd be happy to give my thoughts on them. As far as hypochondria and OCPD it's hard to say. My best guess is that for me, my body holds onto stress. So all of this stress I feel I'm managing ok, is actually, in large part, being absorbed by my body. In turn, my body is sending me all sorts of pain signals, anxiety symptoms and a general feeling of being unwell. So without access to a constant barrage of medical tests and exams, my mind is free to wander and wonder what is wrong with me. It's easy to assume we have medical issues when our bodies are producing medical symptoms. But although I feel as though there is a connection, I'm not sure how common or how direct of a connection there is.
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@@OCPD_support wow very interesting! thank you for that!
My father has OCPD, he also came from a very strict religious background. His father was a priest and his mother was obsessed with church. They would spend all Sunday at church, during the coffee hour, at meetings for different committees. Most adults in his life were from the church. His piano teacher would hand him chick tracts about the satanic dangers of rock and roll. I find it interesting how religion can sometimes facilitate mental illness by shaming people. There is a sense of "uncleanliness" and "purity" that is very important to their central ideas. You shouldn't think for yourself, just believe what the grown ups tell you to. It's very unhealthy.
It is something I want to look much further into as there seems to be such a strong correlation. I could be wrong, but I don't think my exposure fueled my mental illness as much as it gave me a hiding place from free thought at a young age. I'm not sure how much I've been affected and I'm not sure how much I would benefit from digging deep into my past. But I hope talking about it makes people curious about how it is affecting them. I hope that you managed to come out of everything ok as it sounds like you may have been exposed to some stressful concepts at a young age.
Thanks for sharing. It's very interesting to hear for me, there's so many similarities with my story but also many things that are completely different. There's so many variables, I was only diagnosed 6 months ago at the age of 43 even though the signs were there at age 6, I went through blood tests etc. but "there was nothing wrong with me" Sadly I've wasted many years on the wrong things as a result. If only I knew earlier I could have had my life adjusted to compensate for myself by now, instead I'm only just starting. I think the lesson is to know yourself & what you're like, the search for ones' self you end up finding yourself in somebody else's thing.
Rog Fusionkid at least you're still plenty young enough to tackle the disorder and reap the benefits. I'm not too far off of you, and even though I knew about the OCPD about ten years ago, it's only in the last few years that I've managed to make any headway with it. So even though there are similarities and differences, we are both still fighting the same fight. I hope we are both victorious.
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Christine Baig thanks for the feedback. Always happy to hear when someone likes the information.
I get mood twist mostly low mood and mostly motivated to work that's all and at both of the times I can't focus on preset moment I always fantasize I'm always in a past situation I also can't sleep cuz of it I always feel like I need to change I always feel like I'm not improving and I can't improve I always think that I'm NOT IN CONTROL I want to control everything I also can't cope with critism can't cope with anxiety and repeating a bad behavior or habit over and over I just never see any good in life = do I have OCD , OCPD OR NONE PLEASE I'm SO DEPRESSED BY MY LIFE and do I need to go to a therapist
and I always want to do work as it said , everything should be planned
@farhatbismell7679 the short answer is yes, I would highly recommend seeking out therapy. EVERYONE can benefit from therapy. And you provided a long list of very good reasons to find treatment. Only a mental health professional can diagnosis you, but if you want to start somewhere, you can take the OCPD test found here: www.ocpd.org/ocpd-pops-test
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I am a newly diagnosed OCPD.Are we born with this disorder or we develop this?
@wisteria1739 there's likely to be both genetic and developed components to this disorder. However, there is no one single consensus in regards this question.
@@OCPD_support I see..thank you
Please do you speak at events? Would love to invite you.
KEHINDE'S PMHNP CERTIFICATION COACH I have once before. I would love to do more speaking engagements. Logistics would probably be the biggest challenge. I'm currently in Mexico City, Mexico. But the short answer is yes!
My husband meets all of the requirements for OCPD and does does not talk about a lot of his childhood. He has abusive tendencies. I have heard of a few stories of abusive behaviour in his family. His mother and her family ALL had mental health problems. I'm not sure what ones though. I can tell you though that it is showing up in our home and is ruining our family construct. If he does not seek treatment and apply it we will not make it. Can i ask you what subtype you identify with? I need mroe detailed explanation of the subtypes. I also want to know how you would react to a spouse telling you that the relationship is over. Would you retaliate? How so? We have children I have to consider.
Rachel Murphy first off, I'm so sorry for all of your suffering. That said, I'm happy to try and answer your questions. I would identify the strongest with both the conscientious & bedevilled subtypes. Understanding of OCPD seems to me to be still rudimentary. And the new DSM makes no mention of subtypes. That is not to say that they don't exist, but they are not using those as the standard to define someone with OCPD. The easiest read on Millon is his section on the OCPD Wikipedia page. I wouldn't normally send someone to Wikipedia, but as for the information on the subtypes, there isn't much to go around. If you have specific questions about behaviors and their correlation to a particular subtype, I can try to answer those questions as well.
As to your second point, I'm not entirely clear which side is which in your question. What I mean is, are you the one saying the relationship is over or is he? If he is the one saying it, there's always a chance he doesn't mean it and it's a defense mechanism triggered by anxiety most likely. If you are asking how a person with OCPD would react to that statement, it would vary from person to person. I think a lot of it is, what does rock bottom look like for someone with OCPD? For me, that was the threat of the ending of a relationship. I didn't get the help in time to save that particular relationship (although we both shared in the responsibility of the failure of the relationship), but it did prompt me to seek out treatment. As the relationship ended anyway, it was an easy excuse to relapse and not try to get help again for years. I would not retaliate though. I think that it's a possibility for those with a mix of OCPD and narcissistic traits. But I don't think most with OCPD would retaliate. Many of us believe in self fulfilling prophesy. So if he always felt like he wasn't good enough for you (because most of us deep down have a feeling of guilt surrounding the OCPD), he may accept that fate. He may not fight to keep the marriage simply because he feels he doesn't deserve it. So I think you can see how it's a very tricky situation. For some that tactic might work, for others it could blow up in their face.
I'm sure that's not the answer you were hoping for. But you are correct in that he needs to get himself into treatment. Treatment can take a while, so it's important that he realizes he needs to get in today. I have some additional videos on approaching loved ones about OCPD. You may find them helpful. Wishing you all the best through this.
@@OCPD_support Thank you so much! Yes I was referring to me telling him the relationship is over. It scares me to think of what he will try. He has said negative, untrue things to the kids about me and when I confronted him, even using a gentle tone, he got angry, dismissive and deflective. He has also very randomly thrown insults and financial threats at me. So I am really trying to find a good indication of what I may be dealing with in the event I decide to leave. I am afraid he will trash my name (slander) and try to turn my kids against me or even try to get more custody of them, even though I work from home and he is often away for work. Any insight? Again, thank you very much for your answer. I will look for you other videos on how to talk to him about it. :)
@@rachelmurphy9679 I would speak with a therapist, as that will give you some perspective. You sound as though you could use some support, and really all of us could benefit from that type of support. I would seek out some legal advice as well. And I think joining a support group for women in similar situations would prove beneficial as well. I'm not scything that this all means everything is going to end. But you need to prepare for the worst while building a network of support. Just by you going to see a therapist, that could prompt him to as well. And that could be the start of a new direction. But there is a lot to repair. I wish you all the best and I'll continue to be here for questions. You are also welcome to schedule a call through Clarity.fm if you think you need to have a more in depth conversation.
@@OCPD_support thankyou
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Good vid :)
You Counselling thank you! A little late, but 3 years later and this notification just came through.
I’m starting to think I may have OCPD but I definitely don’t have any traits around orderliness or cleanliness. My room is always messy. But I identify with all the other symptoms. Does anyone else feel the same?
globalmilitary collections having OCPD does not have a direct correlation with how clean or neat you keep your home or work spaces. It is a pattern of thinking that can influence many different areas of your life. But these areas are unique to each individual. I'm definitely not saying that you have OCPD, just that it is a possibility despite claiming to be disorganized. Thank you for the question.
In the DSM, hoarding is actually one of the symptoms listed for OCPD! I was surprised, too
@@trigunchica14 almost everyone is surprised to see hoarding there. And until people see it, most discount the idea of having OCPD specifically because they do hoard.
1. It seems like boys are much more likely to bully or be bullied than girls. Do you have any advice for the parent of a bullied child? 2. Are we allowed to ask what that particular religion was? Piqued curiosity. 3. I think my bipolar mom "saved" me from some harmful rituals by use of magical thinking. 4. Thank you for sharing your story.
Thanks Jasmine. PM me and I don't mind talking about the religion. But I don't want to say anything publicly in reference to it.
As far as the bullying, I have plans for a future video on that topic. But I do have very strong and specific opinions on that, as someone that was bullied. I'll go into a couple of them, but please PM about that as well if you have specific questions or want to discuss something more urgent. It's really hard to give advice without going into specifics. I have experience in this area but the details need to remain off of public forums. Needless to say, I know what I'm talking about. Firstly, I would limit the amount of access to social media. This isn't an antiquated way of thinking. There is literally nothing positive that can come out of it. The second is to spend as much time and energy as possible building character in your child. A child should feel good about themselves when they do something good, not just for existing. Coddling leads to unrealistic expectations in the real world. Also, kids are very resilient in general and as long as they have some joy in their lives they manage pretty well. So just because they may not be able to build friendships in school, for example, there are other places outside of school to do that same thing. Find what they are interested in and surround them with like minded people. If they like art, get them into an art class. When I was young most of my friends were 2 to 3 years older than me. I don't think there's any reason to limit kids exposure to only kids their own age.
Thank you so much for your comment. :)
If there's a way to PM on youtube, I don't know of it. I pinged you on fbook msngr. Cheers.
I was bullied in middle school as well. I think mine developed due to unrecognized and untreated Asperger's.
I'm sorry to hear that. I hope that you're being treated now and that things are going better.
Absolutely. I have a few "surprise" diagnoses. I rapidly was able to heal. That step to seek help was the hardest. Now I am very optimistic. I've only been diagnosed since December, and I've made more progress in six months than in the ten years preceding.
That's fantastic news!
Corvus Mortuus congratulations on your appropriate diagnosis and rapid progress. I also am an adult with undiagnosed autism and I believe my ocpd stems from this as well. I am curious about others with both conditions. I am also curious about what sort of treatment or therapy you are finding helpful personally. I am in a rural area of the US and support has been difficult to come by but I am determined to move forward with whatever help I can attempt to create. Good luck.
Ok now i remember it. I think it all started back when i was a child, i was 7-10 years old at that moment. Ilive in a village and we play sports or do activity in pack, so I am the self-elected leader for my group, ALWAYS. They always followed my rules, they need someone to command them.
Whenever anybody break the rule, i will punish them accordingly and with justice. In my entire childhood, i am always their leader and i think that what develop this LEADERSHIP MENTALITY, always wanted to control every situation, I feel the responsibilities around me, the need to solve every problem in any situation given.
Woah, now I am 22, and stuck with the "Controlling other" behaviour. I also overthink everything a lot. How can I reverse this sir? I am tired of this.
SHEIKH IDLAN RAFIQI BIN SH OTHMAN thank you for sharing part of your story. The first thing I'd like you to know is that this isn't your fault. Whatever caused you to take the leadership position as a child was coming from another area of your life that you may either not remember or are not aware of. It's also possible you were born with a propensity towards some of these traits, but there would need to be 'triggers' to set you up to feel like you need to maintain control at all times.
I empathize and understand how tired of all of this you must be. There are things you can do for yourself to calm your mind such as exercise and meditation. But your problems are only going to be solved through therapy. You need to be taught the tools needed to make significant changes in how you approach life. So the first thing I would do is to seek out a mental health professional. But if you have any other questions, please let me know.
@@OCPD_support Okay thank you for the suggestion, but that means, i just go to the professional and tell them I think i am OCPD ? Or they would diagnose me first? I am really afraid that they charge me for another type of personality disorder.
@@IdlanRafiqi I think it's best to not initially bring up OCPD. A good therapist will be able to pick up on that over the course of some sessions. The main thing to focus on with a therapist are the thoughts and thought patterns in your head and how they make you feel. If the therapist asks for examples of how things play out in the real world, you can give them some examples of traits or symptoms. But don't focus on them. Focus on the way your brain works.
@@OCPD_support Okay, thank you sir
@@IdlanRafiqi you're welcome :)
U hv a great skin bro
@riyasen3133 not a complement I was expecting, but I'm happy to receive it :)
I am referring to my 51 year old son….he suffers terribly with severe OCD he also has been diagnosed with OCDP.
His condition became obvious to me when he was about 6 years old ….that’s in hind sight. 45 years ago I wasn’t aware of such a disorder.
A bit of history…….His father was a narc. Very abusive and constantly ridiculed all 4 of his children as well as physically abused all including myself. I won’t go into all that. Meanwhile I also became part of a religion that helped me regain some of my self esteem and self worth.
It taught my children and myself value as Gods creation. All that was good. However it was also restrictive. Three of my four children chose to turn away from this religion as they reached their later teens including this son. It’s all okay they are still all good honest and descent people thanks to this religion.
Coming back to my son and his OCDP AND OCD. He lives with me and it’s a daily struggle for him and me with his obsessions, compulsions and rituals. He really suffers and it is heart-breaking to watch and live through. His constant obsession with germs and hand washing. Hi hands and knuckles are cracked and bleeding all the time. Window and doors have to be checked and locked.
And one of the worst things is his hoarding and stacks of newspapers in the entire house. I have not been inside any of the bedrooms for about 17 years so far. Also no access to the lounge or dining room. All stacked almost to the ceiling with newspapers.
As well as the dining room table and buffet and any other surface he sees suitable for his use.
I myself was always houseproud and now I will not open the door to visitors because of the living conditions. Most of all I feel so sorry for my son because he isn’t enjoying his life. How do I help him? I am mindful of not being an enabler but he can get so stressed that I worry that he’ll have some heart episode…..,I just keep quiet and out of his way.
Having said all that ..he is very caring and loving towards me and would do a thing to help e.g.shopping and taking my scripts in for me ….washing my car. He brings me coffee in bed every morning. He is very kind-hearted.
OCD AND OCDP is a terrible disorder.
@christinasabatini9519 thank you for sharing. You are in the middle of a complex situation. I can appreciate that you see your son through rose-colored glasses and that you can appreciate his good qualities. There are many that would not have had the patience that you've demonstrated.
I would say that if it is HE that is living in YOUR house, and the situation has escalated to the point that much of your house is off-limits, whether with good intentions or not, there is enabling happening. I say this in the kindest of terms...you will need to gently, but firmly, put your foot down. The only way that any of this changes is if he seeks out help. If not provided with an ultimatum, I cannot see how this situation will ever change. If it hasn't in 45 years, why would it in the next 45 years? It is possible to be both forceful and loving at the same time. But if he wants to continue to live under your roof, I think that many changes should be made. And all of this starts with getting in front of a mental health professional.
Nothing you have said is crazy, life for young people is so hard and problems at home and school exacerbate issues to the point of crisis 😞
ADHD and it seems like it gets harder for everyone each year that passes. All we can do is to keep trying.
My fiancee has OCPD.... and its so hard. Can discuss hoarding and sex
Melissa Nuñez absolutely I can discuss these two things in videos. I'm very familiar with the symptom of hoarding in regards OCPD. What specific connections between OCPD and sex do you think I should discuss? Thanks.
My husband has OCPD and I've noticed a need, in him, to be the best. He focuses so much on his ability to make me cum that he himself rarely can during sex. It eventually got to the point that I realized it wasn't to make me happy, but was to reassure himself that he had done a good job....takes the fun out of it for me.
as a kid ..
clean up/organize grocery store shelves
as a teenager
blow on fingers to clean them.
hand washing
no door handles
no hand shaking
don't touch my stuff.
sitting on public toilet
sitting with work clothes
car steering wheel has germs
don't sit on couch with work clothes
don't touch me
felt I had a rainbow light beam from head. couldn't go under things, had to go back through the same way.
it goes to heaven. get it tangled and you're doomed.
packing down my oatmeal after each bite, after draining the milk first.
Vengeful Polititron that is sadly poetic. I can relate to some of this, especially during the teenage years. I hope that you're in a better place now.
@@OCPD_support
thanks. it's messed up how there is beauty in suffering...
I'm actually in the worst place of my life so far. I lost God, genuine positive emotion. physically felt a demon touch me, and I'm going to hell. which is a surprise... cause I thought I was going to heaven from age 5-26..
I just turned 27... two days after feeling the spirit of life leave my body.
things are horrible. but my only option is to ignore them until they happen.
but thanks
@@VengefulPolititron those are very final statements. I don’t want to diminish how you feel, but according to most religions, those are not positions that are set in stone. It is possible to change all of those outcomes. I do not know how you feel specifically, but regardless, there are many options and paths that could lead to more positive outcomes.
@@OCPD_support
thanks. that's very nice of you.
however. there is the one...
very rare.. (for a believer) the unforgivable sin.
and I did it.
yes. the finality is terrifying.
the complete opposite of what I thought my whole life.
@@VengefulPolititron do you mind me asking what religion?
I found this video to be wayyy too personal and specific to the person who made it. Lots of blabber that didnt need to be there. I clicked on this to learn about myself more than I did you. And while I know some of these details are necessary to explain your point of view, saying things like "I love my parents. I'm not trying to throw anybody under the bus." Like. No one even said you dont or that you were. This video could have been easily compressed into 5 minutes of solid information. But hey, for those of you who found this to be useful, more power to ya. The fact that we even have a platform to find videos about things like this is incredible on it's own.
Jilted Little thanks for the comment. I can understand why you'd feel the way you did about the video. Unfortunately, nobody is a professional UA-camr when they start out. If you notice, the video is three years old. Slowly I'm getting better at trimming down the length of the content. However, the process of making these is also supposed to be cathartic to me, so at the end of the day, I'm going to put in what I feel is best for me and best for the audience. But the plan moving forward is to keep the videos to 5 to 6 minutes. Thanks for watching.
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@christinasabatini9519 is there something you're referring to at that timestamp?
What was your religion if you dont mind me asking
Lajuana Walker I don't want to post that information here, but if you have a way for me to PM you I'd be happy to let you know.
@@OCPD_support is this video about you or people that have written to you?
@@flyguyry1 this video is entirely about me.
When one of these people becomes the manager, everybody leaves...business eventually goes under. 😢😢😢😢
T Dang depending on the severity of the traits, that could be an unfortunate outcome.
Can ocpd be cured?
@frankskool1351 as we currently understand personality disorders, the short answer is no. However, with considerable effort, it is completely possible to manage OCPD to the point where it no longer negatively impacts your quality of life and your interpersonal relationships. So it really depends on how you view the idea of a "curable" condition. The long answer is that for those with OCPD, there absolutely remains hope.
@@OCPD_support I was diagnosed in IMHANS. Doctors told me that I had symptoms and mine was mild. What about that?
@@frankskool1351 the severity of the disorder plays directly into how difficult the disorder is to treat. So less symptoms would likely mean a better long-term prognosis.
Do you think OCPD is potentially genetic?
Anthony Kist it's a tough one to know. My personal beliefs lean towards yes. I see cases where it seems that the OCPD is drilled into a person from a young age by a parent that has OCPD and I also see people that have chaotic parents develop OCPD as a coping mechanism. But I also see people with OCPD that claim to have had a wonderful upbringing. So that lends me to believe it can be both. I'd like to see a lot more research done.
U sound like ryan gosling
Tashi Lhamu I've never heard that before, but THANK YOU!
I don’t know if you sound like him but I really like your voice tone and your delivery is excellent.