Knowing you have OCPD is... (Symptoms & Subtypes) (Part 2 of 3 - How to identify OCPD)
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- Опубліковано 26 бер 2017
- Knowing you have OCPD is only scratching the surface (Symptoms & Subtypes) (Part 2 of 3 - How to identify OCPD) Episode 004
This is the second episode in a three-part series delving into what it is to have obsessive compulsive personality disorder. The focus of this video will be to identify the qualifying characteristics of OCPD and a breaking down of the five subtypes of this personality disorder. The characteristics and subtypes will give you a clear insight into what the symptoms of OCPD really are. After viewing this you should have a clearer picture as to whether you yourself or maybe somebody you know should seek a professional opinion as to whether or not this is the source of difficulty in your life.
Part 1: • Are you one of the 1% ...
Part 3: • So you have OCPD, what...
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Articles referenced:
www.pdchat.co.uk/pd/pd.php?cid...
The International OCPD Foundation:
www.ocpd.org
1:1 Video or Call Consultation & Support:
intro.co/DarrylRossignol
clarity.fm/ocpd/expertise/ocp...
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OCPD: My Life In Debris is a channel dedicated to helping sufferers of obsessive compulsive personality disorder and those dealing with the people in their life that are afflicted with this personality disorder. We will delve into topics covering detailed explanations of the disorder, exploring treatment options, interviews with sufferers, how to live with the disorder, interviews with those that have people in their life with OCPD, and talks with treatment professionals. In addition, we will explore personality disorders and mental health disorders and how to navigate the world when these are a part of your daily life.
最近、日本でパーソナリティ障害クラスターC 群がますます増えてきている点で、私注意 を引きました。こようなことが起きている理由を説明する困難ですが、日本文化がそ 一端を担っていると考える不自然でないでしょう。チャネルアナリティクスを確認し てみると、私コンテンツにアジア、特に日本から関心が寄せられていることがわかりま す。こチャンネル目的、できるだけ多く人にメッセージを届け、役に立ててもらうことな で、動画を日本語字幕付きで提供することにしました。コンテンツ、特に「強迫性パーソナ リティ障害」をテーマにしています。強迫性パーソナリティ障害、日本でも多く見られる強迫 性障害と別疾患です。強迫性パーソナリティ障害、略して OCPD と呼れており、また 文献上で強迫性パーソナリティ障害 (Anankastic personality disorder (APD)) とも呼れて います。OCPD 、白か黒か思考と完璧主義的な特徴を持つ障害です。実際特徴、 るかに複雑ですが、それを説明するために動画を用意しました。内容がお役に立てれ、ある い少なくとも情報として参考にしていただけれ幸いです。ご覧いただきありがとうございま した。また、以下にお気軽にコメントをお寄せください。
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Wanting to watch a movie. Decide to look at movies you could watch. Make a list of movies you want to watch. A lot of movies exist. Run out of time, never finish the list, never watch a movie. Eventually, want to watch a movie again, but can't because you never finished the list, want to at least pick up the list to finish it, or keep working on it, but more movies have come out since, or maybe the system wasn't perfect. Throw the list away. Start again.
Sounds familiar?
pavlova I do have a hard time choosing a movie, but for slightly different reasons. I don't watch many films to begin with, so I don't want to waste my time watching a bad one. I can spend too much time watching trailers or reading reviews and never get to picking a movie.
Yeah I think I kind of do that too and then it's in that process that the list making begins and... You know. Then it never ends.
Yesterday I wanted to establish a good morning routine for me and then I never did it because I couldn't find the perfect printable checklist for it. I ended up with 40 tabs of printable checklist and morning routine ideas and checklist makers instead of just making a goddarn list which would have taken 30 seconds. But no I had to find a perfect one and make a system and stick to it. And then sometimes I manage to establish the perfect system and I use it for three days and I fail at it for ONE DAY and then the system is SOILED and I can't use it again unless I start over completely (so erase all previous progress) and ideally start again on a monday or the first of the month. Because I just can't accept that I failed at it for one day adn keep going, it needs to be PERFECT and follow the system PERFECTLY. So I never do anything, basically.
pavlova now that sounds familiar!
This is scarily familiar to me
pavlova Yes.
I was diagnosed with OCD. Sorter and doubter. I never felt like I fit into anything I read online. This is crazy how much I can relate to this. I’m a believer that self awareness brings me relief with my mental health issues and i’ve gotten better with lots of therapy but this changes the game. Thank you so much for making this video.
Kassy you're welcome. I agree wholeheartedly with the idea that self awareness brings relief as well as an increase in energy to tackle those things that we want to change. I hope that you continue to move in a positive direction. Thanks for checking out the channel.
I related so much with the part of keeping of items in pristine condition. I had never before considered that it’s unreasonable and it was the carelessness of others that was the problem. For me, the item isn’t viewed as garbage once something happens to it, but there is a great sense of sadness and frustration that money was spent on something and it is no longer in its intended condition. That definitely ties into my extreme frugality. Thanks for making this, it’s nice to see something that I can relate to, even if it does draw negative attention to “quirks” that I hadn’t thought necessarily related to this disorder.
theyspar I don't know whether to say you're welcome or not. It's oddly reassuring when we know we aren't the only ones with these quirks. But we always wish that the other person didn't have to suffer for us to feel a little more "normal". Thanks for your comment and I'm sure others will be able to relate to your comment as well.
I was diagnosed with OCPD and GAD by my long time psychiatrist. I still can’t believe it. I know I’m very prone to panic attacks and anxiety attacks. I had several nervous breakdowns maybe caused by my health issues that keep creeping up. But til today I still can’t believe I’m OCPD.
@yayin43 it can be hard information to digest at first. It gets easier with time to accept. If you have any questions, you can always leave them here.
I was diagnosed with OCPD when I was diagnosed with GAD. I think I’m a mixture of conscientious and the 2nd one. My anxiety makes me worry about others and how they’ll react to what I say/do - or maybe it’s the ocpd causing that anxiety. However, I’m also one to expect people to follow rules I think are right, and am often not flexible in my thinking.
misstiff2390 well that's a tough contradiction in personality traits to work through. But recognizing them is a big step in overcoming them. Thanks for the comment.
Just coming across these videos after 37 years of not truly understanding the affect I've had on myself and the others around me. Thank you for posting these and having the information on your website. I hope to use your information to improve and grow!
CapFan_Camel thank you so much for your comment. I’m glad you found my videos. If you ever have any questions, please don’t hesitate to ask. I’m on a hiatus, but will be back to making new content soon.
"Don't want to control those you love"...Well, sure, insofar as "controlling" is a bad word. But if they could just do everything the "right" way it would be better...right?
For me the answer to that question is no. It's incredibly reassuring when you have OCPD to cling tightly to your own personal truths. They're like a security blanket. I take great comfort in seeing the world in black and white. But, the world isn't black and white and you miss all the nuances when you think like that. So although I currently still have that "right way/wrong way" mentality, it's something I'm working on changing in myself. Truth is always relative. If you believe in God, well which God? Prove your position. If you believe in science, well science moves its needle daily. Something we thought to be true yesterday, is completely false today. So if I think a certain way is the right way today, and someone is nice enough to be willing to accommodate and pacify me today, what happens when I change my thinking tomorrow? Do they have to change as well? It's too much to ask of anyone. That doesn't mean that there are not understanding people out there that may love you and have a lot of patience with you, but do we repay them by demanding they live life to only our standards?
Fair and decent thinking.
OCPD: My Life In Debris Fair assessment in the first half. I indeed think we must recognise that not everyone is wired to see life in black and white and accommodate their way of thinking. By doing so we would inturn begin to see the gray areas and make them part of our reality. But I also do feel that a lot of the problem is going to solve itself if we work towards dropping the expectation of being loved and cared for. I see it creating conflict in our heads. Be the source of your own happiness. Meditation helps you achieve this goal
right. like if they are sane, and know we need it done right, why not just do it the right way and keep the peace?
Very interesting! I was formally diagnosed last month with OCD, OCPD, and severe general anxiety. The only one out of those three I didn't quite have an understanding on already was the OCPD but through many articles and now your youtube videos I have learned a lot. I'm very grateful that there is someone like you that is willing to put yourself out there for the rest of us!
Thanks so much Kay. Feedback like yours is what gives me the motivation to keep trying to make these. Please let me know if you have any specific questions that you'd enjoy me addressing. I'm glad you were able to get your diagnosis as now you'll have more success moving forward with treatment.
Yes indeed it has helped my very much in understanding my girlfriend, I could not have continued talking to her if I did not start to understand where she is coming from, there are so many things that only make sense to her.
I’ve dealt with pretty much everything you described for as long as I can remember. I also struggle with intrusive thoughts and some ritualistic tendencies. I always wrote it off as “being a Virgo” or an INTJ or was scared that I’m a psychopath or narcissist. Maybe I should finally make the leap and start therapy
smoothsundance I think that might be a good idea. Even if it is "being a Virgo" or INTJ, it sounds as though it's very disruptive and that you would greatly benefit from seeing a qualified professional. Sorry that you've had to go through what you're going through, but it sounds as though you you're on the precipice of some positive change.
YES. I am a virgo and INTJ and was also diagnosed with OCPD. I relate to this so much
@@haydenking423 I see you, I'm like you... I always thought something was not right around me or in me, I was diagnosed with low self-esteem and general depression, then with depressive-anxiety disorder, by various psychologists. So I worked on these things: try new things, get out of the comfort zone, etc... but nothing seemed to change my confusion, hopelessness and rage. I feel in a cage since I was a child: fearful and avoidant.... for years I never expressed any emotion or thought in school or in front of the family. No one was worried about the fact I was not acting like a human; and this makes me feel very angry and unfortunate; I was blocked and none acknowledged it. Now that I found out OCPD exists and thanks to these videos too, I'm analysing every bad experience I had in the past, my emotions in the past, my past relationships and problems in socialising, my rigidity. Finally I can explain why these bad things happened and why I'm so hopeless about life: dysfunctional family and bad schooling, added to "being a Virgo" and INFJ-T, led me to be OCPD. I have some hope now, even if I couldn't change this situation, at least I can manage OCPD behaviours.
STAY STRONG, ALL OF YOU.
Love from Italy.
I've noticed one too many features of personality disorders lining up with "astrological traits" that they mostly are known for. Ex) Leo's as Narcs with massive egos, Virgos as OCD list takers, Scorpios as Manics, Narcs or psychopaths. To a frightening degree. This should be explored, because it's too bizarre. I was diagnosed OCD a few years ago and always knew I had it (I'm Virgo) but my father (he's a Cancer) has it to extreme OCPD degree (Puritanical) and I'm now in a broken state after a heartbreak, looking into possibilities that I also exhibit BPD & NPD traits. It's horrifying to know that both my mother (clearly NPD) and my father, who I've blamed for their abusive controlling treatment of me, flip out if I ever dare turn my pain and grief on them. I hate who I am and they are disgusted at any mention of discussion of personality disorders. As long as I take complete blame, things will not erupt into a world War. If I dare point to what they've done to me, it will be an immediate drive straight to hell.
My therapist suggested I might have OCPD and i started to search for information about it. Turns out I relate to the symptoms. Thanks for sharing your experience.
Larissa Bontempi you're welcome. If you have any questions, I'd be happy to try and answer.
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I was diagnosed today. At first I was i denial... I've read so much content on OCPD that it's been hard for me to identify my symptoms. Your videos are helping me a lot during this process.
My therapist identified and least five symptoms. Also, I got the highest scores on the tests you providr on the description of your videos. So, without a doubt, I am OCPD.
I don't have any questions right now. But I'll subscribe to your channel and keep watching your videos. I'm from Brazil. Unfortunately, there's little information on OCPD in Portuguese. By the way, my therapist thought it was a good idea if I watched your videos, since you give your personal experience.
Thanks!
Larissa Bontempi well I'm sorry that it's official, but as I've told others in your position, you're in the minority group that can now start to heal from your symptoms. It's a very small club and it's a very supportive one as well. I speak some Spanish, but outside of knowing the lyrics to Ai Se Eu Te Pego I wouldn't be much help in Portuguese sadly. The two videos I'm releasing today might be helpful if you feel like checking them out.
@@lrssbntmp Don't take a Diagnosis as being the Final Outcome. That's just the category this Therapist thinks you fit into. I went to an Aprn for a while and felt like I had a real issue but she always said I have bits and pieces of everything. After all my therapy I recommend going to a real Psychiatrist for a diagnosis, not a therapist.
I had severe emotional abuse from a girl who to me is a Psychopath and a Narcissist. She has a diagnosis but I don't have access to people who would tell me what her deal is. They just say she has deep issues. I learned more about Narcissists from that experience and youtube videos and had to kind of educate my therapist who kept using traditional therapy on me where he's like you know better than to keep dealing with her. I had a compulsive Limerence type of attachment to her and she is psychotic and criminal where she basically extorted over $100K from me zero remorse. My point is my therapist has been so clueless and I had to keep finding my answers though youtube videos as my ideas came to search for things I seeked answers to. But a psychologist or Psychiatrist likely would of known right off the bat what the situation was I was dealing with.
No wonder my last two relationships fell apart. I literally have a mental disorder. I’m actually...relieved?
Mark Nicholson I hope that this means you'll have a better chance of making a new relationship work.
Yikes. The "offer to do all the cleaning" part really hits close to home. Actually, this whole video felt like a personal attack. lol
James Watson well that's certainly not the intention. I hope that's not how it's coming across. Thanks for watching it despite that.
@@OCPD_support pretty sure he was telling a joke, the video was great! Thanks for the content!
@@avatarnicholas definitely joking. Thanks for the comment.
Insight kicking in, eh ? 🤗
Thank you so much for this information.
I will need to watch your videos several times, there's a lot to digest!
Claudia Cossio thank you so much for watching. Please feel free to leave any questions you might have that come up.
I related to every single word you said in this video. Thank you for sharing your experience, I cant imagine publicly sharing mine like you did so thank you
haden king thank you so much for the positive feedback. I never knew what type of feedback this sort of content would elicit and I'm glad that it helps knowing that we can relate to each other and understand a bit about each others struggles.
huge respect to anyone that has the guts to actually face their personality disorder and actually start fixing themselves
I only have ADHD so I got lucky. Also dodged NPD by having empathy and self-awareness. I can't even imagine how ardous it must've been to finally figure out that you (because of OCPD) are actually the exception, the inconvenience. That's a huge step forward from what little I know of OCPD, and I can commend you for that. And these videos. They help me understand that one past friend of mine a little bit better. I hope he also one day understands that he has a lot of psychology to fix if he wants to move forward in life.
the George thanks for the comment. It's encouraging to hear those words. I wouldn't call it "lucky" to be diagnosed with a mental health issue, but I understand your point. Have you watched the channel "
@@OCPD_support By lucky I mean that all my issues with ADHD that I had have been fixed my medication, and I've learnt to deal with said issues off medication pretty well (I'm not too productive without them, so I just use the time to work on my physical health).
I've just found out about this channel so I haven't had the chance to go through too many of your videos, but the few I watched were genuinely interesting.
@@Gamez4eveR I'm really glad to hear that your issues are well taken care of. I'm sure that dealing with ADHD has given you a certain level of empathy that has helped you to help your friends through the last 18 months of mental health hell.
Excellent video. I am impressed with the courage you have to make these videos. They are extremely helpful in understanding this topic.
imran iqbal thank you so much. I wish I could put them out more frequently, but it means a lot that people find them helpful.
Thank you SO MUCH for putting yourself out there. I haven't been able to get proper treatment or even education this PD even though I'm diagnosed with OCPD and another personality disorder (but I don't think that one is a major issue in daily life). I can't binge watch your videos because it's hard to hear you talk about all this. It's extremely relateable, and it hurts to accept the truth but also think about all the people I've hurt and am hurting to this day. It must be just as difficult for you to talk so openly about this. Thank you so much for educating all of us and helping us understand ourselves.
Lykke thank you so much for your detailed comment and the nice things you had to say in regards my content. I wouldn't suppose binge watching these videos is a great idea. I will let you know however that future videos are intended to focus more on the positives and the solutions. I'm reformatting the way I do things and I hope that it brings more hope than worry. In the meantime, you're welcome and thank you for watching.
I have Asperger's but I am also pretty sure I have OCPD. I have struggled to accept anything is wrong with me for years - for ages I thought I was better than everyone else because I worked harder (and am driven enough to get exceptional results from that) and I am so exacting, so careful, an absolute perfectionist. I thought pushing myself to work 16hrs a day and (really struggling with productivity because I also have ADHD) made me an ideal student. I definitely have hoarder tendencies, but I thought of myself as 'thrifty' and avoiding wastefulness, being a model of eco-friendliness. Now, after I pushed myself into a full breakdown over a university assignment in May, I am finally seeing that this really IS a disorder. Basically, it's now a problem because it has killed my productivity, so even my motivations for seeking help are tied into the disorder! I definitely think I am primarily the conscientious type, with elements of the puritanical, although the morals and ethics I adhere to are less old-fashioned and more about the environment, being 'green', etc.
DomesticatedGoth thank you so much for your comment! It was so insightful and helpful and I love comments such as yours as I believe they will help others to see this disorder for what it really truly is. I am three weeks into therapy that I should have started twenty years ago. I can see that there was so much damage done by waiting, that it will be a long hard road to a healthy mindset. I see a lot of my patterns in the things you mentioned. There are definitely quite a few similarities. I hope that you are in a position to seek out and receive the treatment you deserve. I wish you all the best.
@@OCPD_support I've had therapy for other issues in my life in the past, now I am seeking therapy specifically for this. I've been bounced in circles with the NHS, being referred back to the autism support who keep saying my problems are outwith mere Asperger's so unfortunately I've had to seek private therapy, which some family are putting money towards because I am currently an unemployed student. NHS under-funding of mental health support in the UK is a real problem. Good luck with your own therapeutic journey
@@DomesticatedGoth I am so sympathetic to your plight. I am originally from the UK and understand how incredibly broken their system is. I am currently in Thailand and paying out of pocket for both meds and therapy and it isn't easy. But these are the sacrifices I keep telling myself are necessary for much better things down the road.
I’ve believed I’ve had this for over a decade, but this makes me question things. I’m very social, very empathetic, very giving. I do like things in order, like the same colored hangers in each closet, but I can live with things messy or needing picked up as long as things are clean underneath. I don’t get rid of things because they become damaged. I like a rustic look and I also will just repair things. I do like projects and staying busy. I do also enjoy service. I also enjoy working, but I also travel and really enjoy social events. I do like my work done in a specific manner.
At home, I prefer to have assigned tasks, so that I can do my portion to my standards and so I’m not overwhelmed. I don’t care how my partner does their tasks. The things that are really important to me, I just ask to put in my column, like washing my cookware that’s expensive. I am not even sure I’m impulsive. I don’t have any addictive tendencies. I don’t do repetitive tasks. If I get really stressed out I do feel relief from cleaning or running or even chewing my nails, so maybe that is my own spin on things. I do not hoard at all. If I don’t use something for 6 months and it’s not a baby book or memory then I get rid of it. I enjoy a very simplified life and it feels freeing to not have things piled about.
I do like to be adhere to my morals, most of which come from my Christian views but I do curse at times and I enjoy a glass of wine on occasion. I would never drink and drive however, nor would I steal anything or anything else more severe. I have zero temper. I rarely get mad. I’m not super sensitive either. I can get sad but much more often for someone else than myself. I can’t watch the news. It will keep me up all night. I am not fearful of spiders or snakes or anything like that. I don’t like failing but I’ve learned in life that happens. I did suffer trauma in my childhood.
I like to make decisions. I do look into things, like I’ll look for a Groupon or coupon code before making a purchase. I don’t shop much. I don’t enjoy it but I don’t hoard money.
Thanks by the way for making this video! Im going to keep unpacking this disorder and continue to gain more insight!
Julie Ann hi, thanks for leaving a comment. I guess I'm curious as to why you believe you've had OCPD for over a decade. My opinion matters very little (if at all), because if there is something going on that is impeding the quality of your life you should absolutely talk to a professional. But I see you describing more healthy behavior in your comment than unhealthy. I do see in recent years so much over-diagnosing by some professionals in attempt to medicate as much of the population as possible and I see many people self-diagnosing as well. I'm not sure what the clamor to have a disorder is. You can have a healthy mind and still have proclivities and idiosyncrasies. Having said that, that doesn't mean I don't think you don't have OCPD. If you do though, it does sound in the way you describe it to be a milder case. But maybe there is much you left out. Anyway, as I wrote in the beginning, if it's negatively impacting your life it doesn't matter if it's mild or major, I hope that you are able to treat it in the way that works best for you. Having spoken with many people with OCPD, I would say that you sound like a very nice person.
Really grateful for this video - thank you so much for sharing.
Danielle Levy-Wolins you are very welcome. There should be some new content on the channel soon. Thanks for watching.
Thankyou so much for the videos. They really help with my understanding of what I have and hopefully, when I show some of my immediate family it will help them.
You are absolutely welcome. Please let me know if there are any topics you would like to see covered if that would help with you talking to your family.
jacob hunter goddard couldn’t agree more.
I love the way you explained everything! I was diagnosed with OCPD, BPD and AN, and I feel the same way as you, especially when you were talking about knowing how OCPD is stronger than you, but not wanting to admit that you need help or allowing it to be the excuse for how far you've let yourself fall. I've spent a few years in therapy and nothing seems to work, not even hospitalization or electroconvulsive therapy (which were both pure hell). So thank you for making these videos.
XdoriX thanks for the nice comment. I'm really sorry that you've had such a struggle both with the disorder and the treatment options you've tried. It's such a tricky disorder. Sometimes I feel like an imposter because through diet and exercise I've made some progress lately. But then I'll get a scratch on my shoe and it'll ruin an entire day and I'm like "oh yeah, I still totally have OCPD". But as cliche as it sounds life is about the journey and I refuse to stop working on myself and I will not accept that this is the way I have to be. I'm glad you've enjoyed the videos and thank you for saying so.
I was just diagnosed with OCPD today while being treated for ADHD. I enjoy listening to your video because it's clear and to the point. I definitely recognize myself through several of these, already. I look forward to watching your other videos and have now subbed.
Josh S I'm sorry for the extremely belated response. UA-cam is just now letting me know about some older comments that they never notified me of. But thank you for the feedback. I'm still around making videos.
That was very informative and relatable. I see so much of myself in what you describe. It's true what you said, coming to terms with having this disorder is one of the most difficult parts. I got a diagnosis years ago and I'm still struggling to accept it. I got to a point where I can recognize some aspects of it in myself, but some part of me still refuses to accept the idea that my way of thinking and doing things is not "the right one".
I know Akky. It's also difficult at times to figure out which thoughts we have are totally fine and which are being prompted by the OCPD.
Thank you so much for this video. I've watched it multiple times. I've read as much as I can about OCPD (and am currently reading Gary Trosclair's book) but have doubts because I don't relate to all the DSM criteria. This video has really helped me put a real face to the disorder and to understand that we each have our own manifestation of it. I've been crippled by perfectionism, fear of criticism, and depression. Based on your descriptions, I mostly identify with the Bedevilled, Conscientious, and Bureaucratic subtypes, but definitely not the Parsimonious one.
Jeremiah Gammond you're very welcome. Definitely don't need to identify with all of the subtypes nor each of the individual criteria. It's more an either-or situation. I'm excited to announce that within the next two weeks there will be some collaboration videos starting to go up, so you'll get some new perspectives on the channel.
Wow very informative thank you! I can recognize my parents in the 1st and 2nd type you mentioned. My grandpa was an extreme workaholic and hoarder. This disorder is interesting and I appreciate the breakdown
Sarah Couture thank you for your comment :) I hope that you weren't negatively impacted by their behaviors over the years and I'm happy to hear that my video was of some use. Thanks for watching!
I truly needed this .
PGHLive thanks for letting me know, and thank you for watching.
wow, thank you for making this. I'm pretty certain my dad has this in addition to paranoid personality disorder. it really affected my childhood but most of all, I've just always wanted to help him. his suffering was so potent to me.
Mithra Semiramis you're very welcome. I'm sorry your life was so negatively impacted. If you need more resources, please visit OCPD.org and you can always ask me questions here in the comments. Thanks for watching.
@@OCPD_supportThank you 😊 it was my dad's birthday a few days ago and I've copied a post I made on FB because I want you to see an example of the love that goes along with the fear and anger you may see expressed by loved ones of those with OCPD. his case his complicated but many things in your videos are very relatable to me. I wish you the best of luck and am in awe of your courage 😊
It's my dad's birthday and I just want to acknowledge the amazing person he is. that person is trapped in a world of fear due to undiagnosed mental illness and maladaptive behavior (he fits paranoid personality disorder and obsessive compulsive personality disorder and suffers episodic breaks from reality). I got my passion for music from him and RHCP is a favorite of his. this song always got me when he played it because that's him. I learned so much from him including his love and awe for the natural world and especially reptiles ☺️ he's a wildlife biologist and currently runs his own environmental engineering business in Utah. he's a good person who has fallen into the trap of believing money will ease his fears. I'm grateful that he's my father and don't regret going through so much pain with him because he's worth it. I wish I had the power to help him. It's funny how people choose to see wealthy people as eccentric instead of ill. It's hard to battle against all those willing to ignore his often alarming dysfunction for their own financial gain. it perpetuates his suffering and breaks my heart. I won't give up hope I can help him someday.
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@@MithraSemiramis what a beautiful post. I loved reading it. And it's so nice to see someone recognize the duality in all of us and to see beyond the bad that sometimes comes with the good. There are no perfect parents and the most important thing is to be raised knowing you're loved and protected. It sounds like you had that. What a lucky man your father is to have someone so wiling to work to retain hope. Thank you for sharing. And that's a great RHCP song!
Thank you for your video. It is very comforting to know I am not alone in the way I feel.
Marie Fry you are very welcome. I’m glad you feel less alone.
This is a lot of information. I identify with the first and fourth subtypes you mention here but I do have aspects of other subtypes. In your previous video I had shared that I struggle processing and applying this diagnosis to myself because I don’t know how to reconcile symptoms I learn of that I don’t have. But here, you share symptoms more in depth. Perhaps this is what I needed. It’s almost as though by having more pieces of the puzzle, I can better put it together.
Chlink Ink the whole thing really is like a puzzle. Maybe a puzzle with pieces missing at the end. Hopefully not! As I said in a previous response to a different post of yours though, tomorrow I start a series on all eight criteria from the DSM-4 and I hope that it helps you to identify whether or not any of the aspects of each of the criteria apply to yourself.
OCPD: My Life In Debris That’s excellent. It would be great if you could guest with Kati Morton. She’s been having you tubers on her show (and working with some of them) and I would LOVE for her to have someone guest that has OCPD and can share what it’s like. Anything to get the information out and some of the advantage of this is it could boost your channel.
Chlink Ink I would love to collaborate with Kati, but her channel is far bigger than mine. I did reach out to her at one point, but I didn't hear anything back. Which didn't surprise me as I can only imagine how busy she is and how many requests to collaborate she must get. But if enough of my subscribers mentioned me in her comments, maybe someday it could happen. But it still seems doubtful as I'm sure she is going to really blow up now after all the Shane Dawson stuff.
OCPD: My Life In Debris Yeah, the Shane Dawson documentary series. Wow. I never watched Shane before really but I was impressed with his last documentary. I’m not interested in Jake Paul but it was a great look at the human mind. I’ll put in a word for you with Kati. You’re the only one talking about this specifically and I really do think it’s so epic that an OCPD is making videos about OCPD. And the amount of awareness it would bring would be fantastic!
This is the best insight I've found on UA-cam for OCPD. Thank you.
You're very welcome! If you have questions please let me know.
I do all that in Consentious type. However, I get overwhelmed and anxious so quickly that I am unable to get over this for almost for the rest of the day and end up feeling worthless. I also have Social Anxiety Disorder and anxiety in general. I have had childhood trauma and want to know which of SAD, GAD OCPD is the source of rest of the disorders and is there a common solution for all three.. Thanks for your effort. I felt at ease knowing a name to my problem
The Warrior Woman that is a lot to be going through. I'm sorry that your situation is so overwhelming. I'm glad you found my videos, I just hope that you have someone that you can talk to and that you can get some support from.
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Thanks for sharing. I am totally sub type 1.
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Anthony Kist I'm sorry for the extremely belated response. UA-cam is just now letting me know about some older comments that they never notified me of. It makes me feel bad to know that some people must have thought I just ignored their comments. Anyway, glad I was able to introduce you to some new concepts.
My Dad has OCPD. It took me 25 years to figure it out. However his disorder actually kept him from working. He had great jobs and would just quit. I realize now that he probably could not finish things on time due to his disorder. He thinks that it is in his zodiac sign(Virgo) that makes him a perfectionist. Many layers to this. Thanks for your videos. I hope it can help with my relationshio with him.
Ray W I hope they are able to help your relationship with him as well. It's really nice of you to be looking for ways to improve your relationship with him. Thanks for watching!
I've been coming to terms with the fact that I grew up with a primary guardian who has strong OCPD traits and as a result, I display subclinical traits of this personality disorder that get in the way of my life. What I am thankful for is that I've realized this when I'm still relatively young and I feel optimistic that I won't be defined by these traits.
Vivian Loney that actually is great news for you. The sooner you start working on these things, the sooner you'll be able to put all of this behind you.
@@OCPD_support I really appreciate what you do with this channel. For one of the most prevalent personality disorders you'd think there'd be more information and support online than there is.
@@vivianloney8826 I'm very surprised by the lack of information as well. Let's hope that changes soon!
In your expertise, what about the mostly angry OCPD? Would that be more in line with the Puritanical Compulsive or the Bedeviled?
Well if we put aside that the individual might just be an angry person aside from the disorder or that they might have another disorder alongside the OCPD, I would say that both bureaucratic & puritanical subtypes would be the most likely to lean towards displaying a lot of anger. The bureaucratic because of the tendency to be meddlesome, closed-minded & this one seems to lean maybe more than others towards being controlling. The puritanical is a little more obvious due to the indignant and judgmental characteristics.
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Akash Sinha you're welcome. Feel free to ask questions in the comments if anything ever comes up.
My ex-husband used to keep his books in bubble wrap mailers, and he only typed on his keyboard (laptop) wearing gloves. When id pick up any of his things, he'd warn me 'to be careful' with the object, whatever it was, it didn't matter what it was- it was everything. He also refused to allow me to keep 1 small ivy plant which was shaped like a heart in the apartment, telling me that it was 'a carrier for bugs', (even though it was a wedding gift from my mother). The first week we were married, he claimed that there was soap left on the dishes- that he could taste the soap. He then got his mother to come over and redo all the dishes. I had been doing the dishes all of my life up to that point, and never did I leave soap on them. He used to ask for books as gifts from me, but would get anxious and stop me when I tried to open the book, because he didn't want the book to look like it had been read. He also spent hours arranging the books on his shelves- even though he only had 1 small bookcase. He refused to do the dishes, preferring to use styrofoam plates and cups, because he didn't want to 'get his hands wet'. He told me not to use 'too much hot water because it is expensive' when I took a hot bath. And several times he only paid less than 5$ for a birthday gift for me. He wouldn't allow me to read books before bed because the sound of the pages turning made him mad; yet he refused to wear earplugs. When we separated, he asked me how to do the laundry bc his mother had always done it for him and then I did it for him, so he didn't know how to use it. And when I took him to the beach for vacation, he refused to go in the water. Anyway, never did any of these things make sense before, until now that Ive watched your video. I really had no idea all those years why he was acting the way he was. It was dumbfounding. But now I feel like I can finally get some sort of understanding and closure.
I'm glad you are able to feel some closure Orange Ziggy, but I'm very sad to hear all of what you went through. It sounds very painful and difficult. I know I've put people through some of these things. The "be careful with the object" and the "not wanting a book to look read" are things I unfortunately can relate to. My ex-girlfriend/best friend helped me out in such a wonderful way. I still struggle a little, but I'm definitely showing improvement. She told me when an object gets damaged that it now has a new story or memory. I try and think about that advice every day so that I don't hurt others in the future with these silly and obsessive thoughts. Thank you for sharing your story.
Even though I am no expert and only one should determine rather this is true or not; I do share some traits of this disorder, but its not crippling much quite the opposite. What makes it hard for me is the anxiety I get from thinking this is an actual problem because of how odd the things I do may seem, and seeking information on the internet. I’ve dealt with anxiety and depression in the past and this need to seek information and understand only gets it worse for me but I cant help it sometimes. If someone feels like this please take note that if you are a sensitive person as I am regarding mental issues, any minor detail or trait you might think you have it most definitely might be just your own imagination and anxiety. Do not try to “diagnose yourself”.
And for the rest of you who actually suffer the full effects of this disorder I wish you the best, and always stay positive and be grateful for the good aspects of your life, which do exist :)
And as for the host, thank you very much for taking your time to make this videos, you are indeed helping a lot of people. Best of luck man
Efecto Aloha you're welcome for the content. And thank you for the well thought out helpful content. I'm sure others will appreciate it.
Please post the first video in the description.. And maybe the third too
technicalman absolutely.
@@OCPD_support I eventually found them. I'm not used to operating youtube on my phone. Thanks for your videos. I watched a good handful
Hi, thank you for your video. I have been in a relationship with a man who has only recently been diagnosed. I saw this from almost the beginning and to be honest, there were times when I thought that I was crazy. I have a fairly strong personality and self confidence. However, it has been a very tough time. I have stayed with this man because I am extremely loyal and an optimist. I just wanted some perspective on whether or not it is time to leave the relationship 😢 I am really struggling
@clairebevolo379 I wish I could be of more help, but the best course of action would be to find a therapist for yourself. They can help you to gain some much needed perspective and clarity. If you love this person...and they are actively seeking help...and staying with them isn't causing harm to your own mental health, then I can understand staying in the relationship longer. But if they are not seeking help, or it is having a negative affect on your own mental health, it would seem that you have some hard decisions to make. Please take a look at ocpd.org if you'd like additional resources.
I’m almost certain i suffer from OCD and OCPD. I show many of the symptoms stated. However, because of how “mild” they are, i don’t feel the need to be diagnosed.
The Fallen that is absolutely a path that many others choose. However, if you feel it's not worth your time to be diagnosed but you do feel there are things you'd like to address, there's some great activities and mental exercises online that don't require a professional to attempt. Thanks for checking out the channel.
Thanks I think your videos are great, I think you're brave for putting it out there and I understand completely about being boxed in, I'm starting to feel that just watching! I'm going to take a break. But well done, someone has to do this stuff or we never get anywhere. But let me say It doesn't have to be all you, you're not alone, and I think others like me have something to say that we could offer to you for your channel for everyone's benefit, if it helps. I ain't gonna be putting myself out there like you so why not? Everyone's got their own unique blend of OCPD (it seems) so maybe it could widen the discussion and the audience. I actually think I could benefit from doing what you're doing but I'm not personally gonna do it now cos frankly I need to get a job and some money. And putting myself on UA-cam wont help. The first thing most employers do now is Google you and address etc. Perhaps one OCPD upside is that because of all this The real me doesn't exist online, I can't find myself anyway, so that's good enough for me!.
Rog Fusionkid haha, you make a good point. I probably wouldn't be able to go back to the workforce now if I wanted to. One quick Google and I'm done for.
Seven months ago I was diagnosed with OCPD and I was curious if self harm is common? I've had self harming tendencies since about 7. Even though I'm much better than I used to be I have recently started harming again since downsizing my home due to financial reasons. I can't handle tiny home living and the frustration has been causing me to self harm. I'm also curious if there's a link between OCPD and eating disorders. I don't binge and purge daily for months at a time but do it off and on throughout the year. I do however watch my calories more than I should.
Jennifer Fugate I don't believe (and again these are just my personal opinions) that self harm is part of or intrinsic to OCPD. But I belong to all of the online groups for OCPD and I have seen it mentioned. So it's maybe something that certain personality types have a tendency towards. I think that there might be a stronger tendency towards eating disorders for those with OCPD. I haven't experienced it myself, but I have heard it discussed quite a bit and there are elements of the disorder that I see how they might stem from OCPD.
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Hi! Are we sure that badeviled type has negativistic traits? It sounds to me that it's from psychoanalitic theoryes (id is evil and people are all evil) but what if it is realy that we are too good or too pasive (not over but * under * agressive)? Maybe it's not like this for all people with OCPD but i'm in constant war with my rigid * super ego * (grow up in place where i couldn't figure out rules so i created mine and stick to it, now it's a burden). So someone may say that i went against weird rules in my home and that i'm negativistic but * my rules * were empathic one the whole time (still is, i'm always looking for * happiness for every person in society * before for society alone) and the only time i'm negativistic is when i overcompensate my hursh super ego (* i can't beat up that beast but you think you can manipulate it *). Sorry for my bad English.
Aurora Dijana never apologize for knowing a second language. I tried unsuccessfully for many years, so I'm always in awe of people that are bilingual.
Thanks for the comment. Yes, everyone is different and everyone will experience the bedeviled subtype in their own unique way. It really comes down to whether or not this particular set of traits are causing you impairments in personality and functioning. The traits in and of themselves are not good or bad. It's how they are actioned upon in the real world. I discourage people to try and go it alone in trying to control how these traits manifest. Usually over time they wind up getting the best of you. It's just a personal opinion, but I think that a person is much better served working to lessen these traits than to manipulate them to their own good. To me it's like a trained tiger. Maybe everything will be ok and the tiger will bend to your will. Or maybe one day the tiger snaps and everything you've worked towards unravels. For me, I'd rather try and let the tiger go.
Thank you!
Very interesting video. I always thought to be Asperger, recently a psychologist suggested me I may have OCPD. I can relate a lot to the "perfectionism" part, but I'm not very anxious or compulsive. I tend to hyperfocus just on my passions and I enjoy that. I'm very good to problem-solving and I need a scheme to do that, but I'm not extremely tidy in other aspects of my life. I definitely don't accumulate objects. I don't need control but I search knowledge and I accept alternative solutions as long as they are more efficient than mines. What do you think?
Hunterwolf all I can do is to take one point at a time. One does not need to be anxious to be diagnosed with OCPD. The compulsions are not necessarily habits or rituals in every case. It can be a compulsion to always tell the truth. Or to believe there is only one way to correctly do something. I'm not sure if you would fit under that.
Being hyper-focused on passions really doesn't say one way or the other, unless you are letting other aspects of your life suffer in your pursuit of said passions. Many people with OCPD are not tidy. It is not a defining characteristic. Not accumulating objects really doesn't clue in one way or another either. I live a minimalistic life and that suits my OCPD, but it doesn't mean I have OCPD. I also feel the most similar in the way that you search for knowledge and are accepting of new was of thinking if the feel more efficient or in my case a better way of doing things.
I'm sure that isn't as helpful as you wanted, but I'm not in a position to diagnose. I would say judging by your comment, pursuing the idea of a possible OCPD diagnosis would be in your best interest. If it isn't, at least you have more knowledge. Thanks for the comment.
@@OCPD_support thanks for your time. I really appreciate your exhaustive and clean response. You're great! That's exactly what I hoped. I can relate to some points, less to others, but hey! We are all different and that's what makes us unique and interesting 😊
I wish you the best!
And thanks again for the great videos!
@Renee M I feel you, struggling to get social clues and sensory overloads are a huge part of my life 😅 and my difficulties in social situations and my attempt to understand them and fit in trigger my OCPD-like traits. However in the end, after consulting some experts it looks like I don't have enough traits, and I have a "different reason" when I manifest them to be diagnosed with OCPD while I'm definitely autistic! Basically, as you said, we have similar behaviour for different reasons, and I find that very fascinating and worthy of being investigated. Still finding the content of this channel very helpful! ❤️
Ps: I knew for years being Asperger, but when I discovered how deeply this condition always influenced my life without knowing it became a special interest for me as well 🤣
@Renee M you're very welcome, let me know how it goes :)
My husband has been diagnosed with OCPD. He is 56 and I am 53. I want to maintain our marriage but it is getting more diffcult. He has lost trust in the theripist because in his perspective the therpist dosent focus enough on my responsibilities toward him. The problem is he wants me to be responsible for his thoughts, feelings and reactions and apologize for effecting him. He says he doesnt want me to read his his mind and assume things yet he wants me to be reesponsible for them. We can get caught up in hours of discussion about what he feels I am responsible for. I have been in therapy for 2 1/2 years and have learned about and trying to have boundaries that are healthy for me. I have surrvived 30 years with this man but I am drained. Any suggestions?
Carolee Gagnon well 30 years is a very long time. So I commend you for putting in such an incredibly hard fight to sustain your marriage. I hope it hasn't been at the cost of your own mental health. Your husband is very fortunate to have someone so wiling to stick by his side.
You can imagine I'm in no position to judge your husband's therapist. I don't know how long he has been attending therapy, but more importantly, I don't know how effective his therapy has been. Based on your description, it doesn't sound particularly beneficial thus far. The type of behavior and the type of interactions you and your husband are having, appear to me to be the sort of thing a good therapist would shoot down right away. In no way have you ever or will you ever be responsible for his feelings. That is psychology 101. I'm not even sure you should be spending hours and hours discussing his feelings. Do you ever get a chance to talk about yours?
You ask for suggestions, and so far I haven't provided any. It's tough because he already has a therapist and I have no way of knowing what they are doing in session. Every six months or so my therapist meets with my girlfriend in order to make sure they really understand the big picture in terms of our relationship. This might be the first thing I would suggest. The second, is to start discussing with your therapist the idea of creating ultimatums for your husband. Unfortunately, as long as there are no repercussions for his poor behavior and communication style, he is likely to continue.
Maybe start by setting time limits on how long you are willing to engage in these serious discussions. I can only imagine how draining they are. So setting up some boundaries there might be a good start. You aren't limiting him in regards to what he can say. Only for how long he is allowed to say it. I think that as you have already made the smart decision and have entered therapy yourself, these are things best worked out with them. I'd hate to think I've even begun to step on toes. But you need to decide what is ok and what isn't ok and then you need to stop accepting what isn't ok into your life.
I’m super new here and just recently diagnosed so my apologies in advance if I’m asking for obvious or repetitive information. Is it common for people with OCPD to have sound or light sensitivities? I feel like I’m constantly striving for a “calm environment” while stressing myself the fuck out. It has to be dim and tv can’t have sporadic loud sounds without stressing me out. Is this a thing?
I also have PTSD and fibromyalgia so I think it might be overlapped but just wanted to see if there’s any correlation.
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McKenzie no apologies necessary. I'm happy to answer questions more than once. I don't expect everyone to scroll through all of the comments.
I can tell you that it isn't uncommon in the support groups I belong to for someone to have sensitivities. I don't think that that means that there is a correlation necessarily. But you are definitely not alone in what you are experiencing. Thanks for watching.
OCPD: My Life In Debris thank you for your response 🖤
I think my husband has OCPD, he has most of the carachteristics described on DSM-V. But that's impossible to convince him to go to a psychiatrist! I need help! And a recomendation of a good professional (maybe I can talk to him/her?).
Ana Fernandes thanks for your question. I think you're doing the absolute best thing by seeking a professional to talk to. I offer a consulting service, but I always suggest that someone find a mental health professional in their area to speak with. Sadly, you're a couple of months early for your request. I say this because I've now gone full time on this project, and I'm building a database of professionals that have specific experience with OCPD. But the U.S. version of that database is probably at least three months away from going live. Please let me know if you have any other questions and I'd be happy to try and answer them.
Also is it possible to go back and forth with different subtypes throughout your life?
And I’m saying life because I am under the assumption that OCPD cannot be cured only treated.
Jennifer Fugate you're correct in that it can't be cured. But I strongly believed that it can be 99% managed. As far as going back and forth, I'm not sure. But I do think that you can morph from one subtype to another or that certain traits can manifest more strongly in some situations.
OCPD: My Life In Debris thank you 🙏 that explains a lot.
hi can u direct me to ur reference? the link isnt working.
I teach psychology I just checked and unfortunately that website is no longer up. It looks as though someone else has purchased the domain and they will not be coming back online. What were you specifically hoping to research? I can try and find some more information for you to read.
When two groups date.... they act like they’re perfect and super intelligent..
L B I'm sorry for the extremely belated response. UA-cam is just now letting me know about some older comments that they never notified me of. It makes me feel bad to know that some people must have thought I just ignored their comments. Anyway, it's usually a pretty awful deal if two people with OCPD date as their symptoms are unlikely to line up with each other.
I am trying to educate myself on this so that i can be more helpful in dealing with my loved ones who suffer from this. What kind of influence could ocpd have on one's faith?
christine va kammen thank you for your comment. Would you mind being a little more specific in what you are asking. Religion is a hot-button topic and it is absolutely impacted by OCPD. But I don't want to cross any lines until I know what it is specifically that you are looking to find out. Thanks.
@@OCPD_support I don't really know actually.
@@christinevankammen6109 well I don't want to leave you hanging. In the simplest of terms, OCPD can have a profound effect on one's religious inclinations. Not only can it shape someone's belief in a higher power, but it can lock that belief into place as well. That doesn't indicate whether or not someone is correct in their beliefs, but it is possible that it can hold someone back from closely examining and dissecting their beliefs. In other words, they may be fearful of putting them under a microscope. For others, it could have the opposite effect. It might cause them to be indecisive in their beliefs because they spend an inordinate amount of time studying all religions and that leaves them no time to practice any one specific set of beliefs.
@@OCPD_support thank-you this is very helpful, very generous of you have put so much effort in answering my somewhat vague question.
What about strange eating habits and food preferences or diets/fads (fad diets) followed religiously?
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Is there a connection with food preferences? Very Interesting... I like to know more about it.
Orange Ziggy I'm sorry for the extremely belated response. UA-cam is just now letting me know about some older comments that they never notified me of. I'm sure you have an answer by now, but certainly rigid dietary restrictions could fall under the OCPD umbrella.
Is there a part 3 to this? And, I feel really bad because I just suggested to my wife that she has this personality disorder (and, yes, I remember you mentioning to me not to do that, but, hey, life isn't perfect, right?). Anyways, I feel bad because as I was explaining things, I noticed that I was kind of saying all of her personality is related to this personality disorder rather than her as a person. A lot of the things that we used to joke about her as a unique person rather than part of some kind of category. Does that make sense?
Eric yes, there's a part 3. You can find it here: ua-cam.com/video/7GgupPyKVu4/v-deo.html
Eric yes again, what you are saying makes sense. When a person has a personality disorder, initially upon diagnosis, it is impossible to separate the disordered or maladaptive parts of the personality from a person's core personality. That is one of the primary factors in determining why people with OCPD are treatment resistant. If someone told you that the only way to overcome a disorder was to risk losing what it means to be you, you would understand the gravity of how overwhelming that would feel. Maybe a person goes to therapy and heals and remains much the same person. It's possible. But it's also possible to come out the other end a completely different person than who you went into the process as.
@@Eric-nh2yb that's a good approach. I'm actually reading a book right now that talks in those terms. What makes a personality maladaptive is if the traits of that personality interfere with a person's ability to live a 'normal' life. So if you and her get to a point in which the traits are a plus and not a minus, then maybe that's what works for you.
I can't say what the probability is that you get to the point in which you're happy. I don't know the level of change that your wife would have to achieve. If it's only small changes that you need, maybe the two of you can figure things out by yourself. But that isn't the case in most instances. The marriages that last usually last because the person with OCPD recognizes that there is something fundamentally wrong and they seek out professional mental health help.
Puritanical 😔 that’s me. Didn’t notice how bad it was until I started trying to get close to other people. I see some of the other personality types in myself too.
capoeiristachik1 are you receiving any help for this or are you working on these character traits yourself? These are definitely things you can adjust to healthy levels.
@@OCPD_support fortunately for me, I’ve noticed some of these qualities were negatively affecting me for a while now. So I have been looking for ways to improve for a long time, and in many ways I have. A lot of my therapy has focused on treating my trauma, which I think has also helped some of these symptoms. However, I have gotten a lot of talk therapy and do feel I’ve gotten pretty much what I can out of talking for now. Currently pursuing more physical therapies, but will definitely keep an open mind to trying it again in a different way as I sort through more of your videos. Once again, I am very relieved for the content 🙏🏼
@@capoeiristachik1 that's wonderful to hear. I'm not too far off from where you're at. I'm still receiving quite a few benefits from "talk" therapy, but there are aspects of myself that I believe can only be changed through other, more tactile methods.
@@OCPD_support I think that means we're on the cusp of satisfying change. Rhythm is really helpful for coping with trauma, so I'm looking to jam skate and hopefully just enjoy myself :] hopefully will be exercising as frequently as you.
@@capoeiristachik1 jam skating sounds like a great idea. I used to in-line skate, but not really the same thing.
14:24 That's your suppressed inner child acting out uncontrollably. Our inner child has it's own personality, and has desires and wants that are different than our 'adult self's' desires. You are not alone in having an inner child that is different than its adult- this is the truth for everyone. But what you are describing is an inner child that is directly opposed to what you would choose; this means that when you were a child, you had a different personality type/style, and you had to change yourself and become someone different- (this is also true for everyone else not he planet), but what makes your type of personality different is that you chose to become directly opposite of who you were as a child. So for example, if you were a playful jokester, full of fun and practical joking as a child, you decided to become rigid and controlled and never allow yourself to play as an adult. Or maybe you would hate 'loose' behavior, but then you go on to marry a woman who is loose at parties, etc. Fascinating stuff.
Very fascinating stuff :)
Wooooooooah, I am definitely a bedeviled compulsive.
Max G. you and me both!
How did you come to the understanding and acceptance that you have OCPD? The person with it in my life doesn't want to hear it.
steven joseph I think I've always been self-aware. And as much as I didn't want to believe it, I always knew something was off. But it took hitting rock bottom (two divorces) to really dig into what was wrong with me. The first article I came across was like reading my own biography. As I was already open to the fact it was likely I was the problem, it pushed me to get help.
For people that are looking to help those in their life with OCPD, I've produced a few videos. I will continue to produce more as well on that topic. I'll include a link to one of those videos in the next comment.
ua-cam.com/video/ugWf3fMAVvE/v-deo.html
I identify with subtypes 1, 4, and 5 but can see bits of 2 and 3
Eric Martin that's not unusual with OCPD. There are no hard/fast rules when it comes to which subtypes we may align with.
I lost my soul mate of 7 years from it :'( and I never choose to get help
Gogeta05 I lost two marriages and countless relationships. What happened is terrible. But if you choose to get help now, you can start building the future you deserve.
Yah it’s really hard to admit that my actions is wrong:) I’m too perfect .....
and During these 2 years I couldn’t reach my usual perfect level ( I’m talking about my grades level , I think that’s why i start struggling with my own character and everything gets very hard ) i can’t finish my tasks I can’t submit my work i even can finish my paintings ! I always thought that they are not good they are ugly...
omg this is hard really hard .
I spend alot of time to think my mind is crowded i cant stop ,and I can’t focus on studying..
Sarah Alqahtani I struggle off and on with artistic endeavors, never believing that they are good enough. You need to work to the point where the purpose is not your proficiency in the art but your enjoyment in the taking part in the art. Stop focusing on the result and instead focus on the joy of the action.
Interesting and useful! Thank you! I think i have obssesive character at least and OCD. I find it hard to accept myself because i have harsh standards for me, also i'm hyper moral to the point it sounds psychotic and bizare even to me and i'm afraid i wouldn't accomplish much in life because of that and social anxiety. I'm rigid but only with my values. Can someone help me find my type?
Aurora Dijana thanks for leaving a comment. Sounds like your situation is very challenging? What is the 'type' you're trying to find out and what do you hope to accomplish? I'd love to be able to give you a specific answer if I have one for you.
Thank you for your answer and willingness to help. I'm interested in what type of OCPD i might have.
@@auroradijana7915 first, let me make it clear that I'm in no position to diagnose you with OCPD, nor any of the subtypes (it's common to fall into multiple subtypes). However, what you describe in your comment is closest to the puritanical compulsive. The fact that your rigidity mostly stems from your self imposed moral rules would indicate that. Now that you have some more information, what do you think you will do next?
Thank you! Not mutch to be honest. I 'm still in school, when i get on my own i will see where and if my personality creates problems.
@@auroradijana7915 well I'm glad you know your intentions. I'd just make a mild suggestion that you speak to someone earlier. If indeed you do have a disorder of some type, the longer you wait to do something, the longer it will take to overcome the disorder.
Also i diferentiate my values to rational (one which can be rationalise) and emotional (altruistic, cultural, narcissistic...). The only one i find important to the point it should be *values* are rational and altruistic , rest are just my taste.
Aurora Dijana do you hold others accountable to the same set of morals you set for yourself?
@@OCPD_support in a way, i know theirs are different then mine but i feel responsible to promote mine altruistic and most important values, also i think these are the right ones because they are mostly objectively empathic.
@@auroradijana7915 I think that it can be a positive thing to allow others to know where you stand morally and your ethics/values. But no two people experience life the same way and to think that your way of thinking is better is to be haughty, prideful, and to diminish someone else's experiences. These things can make it very difficult to maintain long-term relationships, friendships, and careers. What may be obvious to you, may make no sense in the context of another person's life.
@@OCPD_support of course. It's hard to explane though appart from example.
So apparently my ocpd is agitating my ptsd. It kinda sucks to know that it’s my own defense that is making me so miserable.
notmyselfusee in what ways is it making things worse? Are you in therapy for either? It's very disheartening to hear that it's currently making you miserable.
OCPD: My Life In Debris thank you for your response. Basically because of my sense of duty, I am having difficulty with acknowledging that I can’t just shrug of my personal struggles. I am in therapy.
@@notmyselfusee I understand. I think that is a logical response. I myself have had many moments in which the frustration of not just being able to heal myself instantly becomes overwhelming. It feels like weakness. And the reason it feels like weakness is because it is. I'm not of the believe that our weaknesses are our strengths. What would that make our strengths? But there's something simple I think of that I find very encouraging. If you are a physically weak person there are many things you can do to change that. Now there is nothing wrong with being a physically weak person. It doesn't make you a lesser person or a bad person, it's just one of the things that you are. However, if you choose to eat right, get enough sleep, treat yourself well, meditate, take care of your mental health and of course exercise, you can become an incredibly physically strong person over time. The same applies to any weakness. If we decide to make positive changes and we put in the work, we can become exactly the type of person we envision ourselves to be in our mind.
This is like listening to my husband talk about the tiny dent in his car. It's brand new and he hates it now. Also I wish he would do all the cleaning, now he just shouts at me for not doing it too his impossible standards. But I love him
Analida May I very much empathize with the tough situation that you are in. Nobody deserves to be shouted at. I think for someone in your husbands position it can be good to stay away from brand new items. I recently discovered 'distressed' sneakers and the idea of them works so well for someone that thinks in the ways that I do.
@@OCPD_support thank you. Fortunately I am very thick skinned and it also helps to know that it's not a problem with me or even the state of our home that causes his distress. Interesting idea not to have perfect items in the first place, in which case they can obviously not get worn out. I try to remind him that things aren't all good or all bad, it may not be a 10 out of 10, but instead of thinking of something as either perfect or ruined he should think of its as a 7out of 10 instead of 10 out of 10, which is still really good. Thank you for your videos, they are very informative.
Oh ocpd hurts for people around like a lot
Jovan Krstic it absolutely can. So I'm trying to work on helping people with that as well.
Very true. It took every last person in my own family telling me that I make life miserable before I finally realized that I the problem and all of my behaviors and personality traits were not normal. I started doing my own research and slowly decided to get help. Finally got a diagnosis and am now slowly starting to work on this seriously. I know for myself how hard I am to live with... I can hardly live with myself sometimes and I can already see a lot of my screwed up personality in my two year old, surprisingly enough. It sucks being this... Having this. It hurts us a lot lot lot more than it seems like on the outside.
I was diagnosed with Cyclothymic Personality Disorder some years ago... I wonder if maybe it actually is OCPD? I am truly an obsessive person... I mean, if something gets into my mind, I cant get it off and I NEED to get to the bottom of it, spending nights without any sleep just researching what it is on my mind, neglecting what actually needs my attention. It's super hard, because I get so anxious about it, I pick the skin of my fingers and mouth until they bleed. I've been off medication for 2 years now because I really dont think that I have a "mood" problem. My mood is stable, what changes is my compulsiveness when I'm hooked on something (I think I can get addicted very easily and then move on to something else when I've explored everything).
Even if I never really even cared about it because it literally means nothing to my life, I will spend hours and days researching everything about a topic!!! In that stance, I feel like a slave to myself.
Maybe it's worth to mention that when I was a kid/early teen i had OCD symptoms (i would walk on a straight line on the street, when i saw a bus i thought about how i needed to jump in front of it, also would put my hand on the fire because i had to or something bad would happen- i dont experience those anymore though, thank God).
I thought I was ok, whatever, but actually I've been just ignoring it and pretending I dont have a problem... Yet, here I am again, obsessing over yet another useless thing that will probably steal my sleep again hahah
Thanks for your contribution.
cozyday thanks for sharing some of what you've been growing through. Sometimes just sharing or writing things down can open up new pathways to healing. I would say that what I see in your comment is not that uncommon, especially in those with OCPD or with those that have OCPD traits. And what I see are contradictions and a rigid defining of mental health terms such as "mood'. The idea that you can study a topic until you've explored 'everything' is as fruitless as chasing after perfection. Neither are truly possible. As you explain yourself, you're really just scratching a compulsive itch.
I think that you would be best served speaking to a professional and allowing them to help you to redefine some of the concepts you are living. I think that you could be much happier if you were able to manage these symptoms instead of allowing them to manage you. I also think that there's a lot you can do to improve your quality of life and that it's absolutely worth putting some energy and effort into. I don't know if what you are experiencing is OCPD, but regardless I think that you deserve to give your mind a rest and to find more productive and enjoyable ways to spend your time. If you ever have any specific questions, please feel free to ask them. Thank you so much for watching!
I believe I suffer from OCPD but I'm not willing to get diagnosed.
Is there a reason you don't want to get diagnosed?
OCPD: My Life In Debris it' cost a lot for me as a college student and I'm not considering having CBT because I think its bullshit in my country. I only want medication.
I can understand your frustration. I have not been able to stick with regular therapy because of the cost. If you are not into the idea of CBT, you may want to look into Schema. I'll be talking about it in a later video.
we are waiting
Of course you are not .
My husband has ocpd. I'm at my wits end with being controlled and the lack of love. Just you expressing your deep empathy for someone in my position brought a flood of tears.
He knows he has this now but thinks he'll fix himself. What should I do? I'm moving away for a few months to get some relief but i feel it may become permanent. I love him but his disorder has left me hurt and confused. I just don't know what to do.
Ziondweller thank you for your sincere message. You are not alone in your situation, nor in the response and action you're taking. It sounds like you know that you're making the best decision for yourself right now. What you are doing may help motivate him in some small way to start the long hard journey to better mental health. But obviously none of this is a result of anything you've done and I'm sure you understand that these are his issues to work on and taking care of yourself needs to be your priority.
The last video I released touches a bit on your question and I have another episode filmed but not edited and uploaded that will tackle this question as well. It's complicated and unique for each person, so it's important to know what you really want at the end of the day and what you are willing to tolerate and what you're not willing to do to get there. I can only wish you the best and I'm happy to try and answer and specific question you might have.
I split with my ex becuse she was rigid, self righteousness. She have jeaulsy, kinda unbearable
Sorry for bad grammar
I needed 1hour for this comment! HEEEEELP!!!
All the symptoms are excactlly my problems, but never talked to a docor. Never like to ask for help, but i don't know how to get better on my own. For like 3 years i'm getting more and more desperate. I don't want to be like the negative person, i am today. Do you think they can fix this? 😔
haze & not wanting to ask for help is incredibly common amongst people with OCPD and is completely understandable. However, as you've stated, getting 'better' on your own has not worked and is unlikely to work. Speaking with a mental health care professional can give you some clarity and a starting point towards feeling better and having more control over the impact OCPD has on your life. It may turn out that you don't have OCPD as well and by having that knowledge you'll be more equipped to tackle whatever the underlying issues are that are causing you have the symptoms you're having. Please feel free to leave me questions, but the best course of action is to at least give talking to some form of therapist a try. Thanks for leaving your heartfelt comment.
@@OCPD_support Thank you so much for your answer. To ask for help means to me, i'm weak and i can't do it on my own. Then i feel tired and stressed, but still don't ask for help, I try to control every little thing in my life. People say i'm a cold, also a mean person, this is not my intention. I think the whole time all people want to hurt or disrespect me, so i can't show my emotions. I talked to my husband about it, he doesn't think it's that serious, maybe because he really think i'm a strong woman and take care of everything. It affects my life in every situation. Tomorrow i will know what the doctor have to say, i'm pretty sure i have ocpd. When did you get the diagnose you have ocpd? Your response means a lot to me🙏
@@bekindbitch2312 have you taken the time to meditate on your thought processes? Look around you at literally everything you see and name me one thing that didn't require someone's help. You accept help every day you use technology or a service. Weakness and asking for help can't be the same thing as it takes tremendous strength to ask for help when it doesn't come naturally. I understand though, I really do. I feel the same at times and felt much closer to how you feel now in my own past.
But not asking for help meant that I experienced loneliness, high levels of stress and I didn't accomplish all of the things I wanted to. There are exceptions to this. There are exceptions to everything. But when you use an exception to argue against something that is true most of the time, that's called 'making an excuse'.
Your intent may not be to be mean or cold. And intent is important and life would be much easier if intent was the only thing that mattered. And believe me I wish it was! But how we are perceived is what determines our ability to make friends, business deals and develop romantic relationships. It's important to consider the feelings of others if our goal is not a life of solitude on the outside of society. If that is our goal, then we can be as cold and as mean as we want.
I've had the diagnosis for almost a decade. But I made no progress for most of that time. Knowing you have OCPD doesn't really change anything. Wanting to become more mentally healthy doesn't change anything. Taking action and seeing someone that can professionally assess you and can give you the tools for change, that's what will start to make a difference. I will be thinking of you and wishing you the best for your doctor's visit.
I had a huge crush on someone with this and if I would've known to begin with that he had this condition, I wouldn't have embarrassed myself and things would've been different. He stays silent and won't say no but will threaten you and believe THE WORST case scenario...if 8 enjoymyself around him, he thinks I didn't....explain this please
BlackMagnolia I'm not sure if I understand the situation correctly. Did you date this person? Are you currently dating this person? Or is this just a friend. And when you say he says "no", what is he saying no to?
He doesn't speak very much and she doesn't Express his boundaries with the word no. Now that could be something altogether separate from ocpd. It feels like any compliment I give him he won't believe it and when I brought him food and he complained of not being able to get what he needs from the drive-through so he was very very hungry so I took it upon myself to bring him food to his door because he complained about it so much and I was trying to be kind but he got pissed off about that and I don't understand why that makes me sad.
Other people would be thankful and that makes me sad because I am a cheerful Giver
@@BlackMagnolia I understand. I can't say specifically if this is due to OCPD or not. All I would be doing is guessing in this situation. But when people react to kindness in the ways that you describe, many times it is the result of guilt and a feeling as though they don't deserve your time and thoughtfulness.
Could you pray for him if you do....he is deeply troubled. Thanks for being so informative and keep up the most excellent work sir
This is how my ocpd loved one is, always has to clean thing’s excessively to her liking, refuses to delegate tasks to me and plays victim that it “all comes down to her at the end of the day.” She also refers to me as a “half asser”, which is incredibly insulting and a blatant lie
browneyedgirl428 I can relate to the person you are describing. A long time ago, before I had a good handle on my OCPD traits, I would refuse to delegate the tasks that needed to be done in a certain way in order to calm my mind. I told myself that instead of being angry, they should be grateful that they had a partner that did all the chores. But the reality is that they felt controlled and limited in their own home (which was true). I am glad I no longer exhibit these behaviors, but it took many years for me to work through all of that. You need to decide if it is healthy for you to be around this person in their current state and what you can do to limit your exposure to them if they are causing damage to your own mental health.
Oh, my goodness! That was my dad..."You don't do things 'half-assed'." Yes, I have learned in recent years that OCPD runs on my father's side of the family (including me). Had to comment since it made me immediately think of my dad who recently passed away. But to your point, I can see how hurtful it would be to have someone refer to you as such.
@@jssmith1608 great to know 😀, this must be an ocpd trait, I called my aunt Bonnie out on these bullshit lies 🤥. I even asked her, “what is half assing, a job slightly less than perfect? “ that sobered her ass up.
@@jssmith1608 although I think there were other factors, I believe that it is also prevalent in certain family members of mine when I was young.
@@OCPD_support Thanks for your reply, and I appreciate the time, effort, and transparency you've put into these videos. I'm not doing well with resisting the urge to binge watch them all in a few sittings :)
I feel this is me but I'm not stingy with money that I wish I had
Mr. R well being stingy is not a prerequisite to having OCPD. There are just some of the ways OCPD can present itself. But it is about your way of thinking, not the external symptoms.
@@OCPD_support Thank you for replying! My wife and me had and have arguments on why I am the way I am specially because I am obsessive on keep things in order and clean. And I get depressed when things are out of my control I think my problems really showed when my wife and me had twins and I realized I had a real problem. And seeing your videos made my wife laugh because it sounds like I could have ocpd. But I need to be diagnosed to know first
@@mr.r9390 well I would absolutely encourage you to talk to a professional. OCPD isn't that well understood, so it's best not to go in asking for a specific diagnosis. But if you want someone to be able to get to the bottom of things, talk to them about your thought processes. The outward symptoms are not what is important. It's hard to look inward and talk about our thoughts and feelings. But if you only talk about the things you do and not why you do them, you'll likely not get the answers you want and the help that you need.
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Uggh. I'm conscientious. It's torment.
Corvus Mortuus I don't think being conscientious is a problem as long as there is no conflict in your head between various situations and you work on being flexible. I don't buy that being conscientious can be a negative aspect otherwise. Its a great feeling to stand up for the virtues. I believe that one mustn't ever think of changing it and that working on the associated limitations is the way forward
Corvus Mortuus have you made any headway with this?
your intro clip audio is SO MUCH louder than your talking video.
It hurts the ears so much.
And especially with that last metallic screech.
Talk louder so tha tthe volume is more similar.
I may be developing OCPD watching your videos, knowing that that painful intro will hurt my ears every time.
gwho thanks for the feedback. Nobody has ever mentioned this in 2.5 years, but I take all feedback seriously. I'm hoping to switch out the intro sometime this year once I have the budget for someone to update it. But I can check the volume more carefully on future videos. For the videos already uploaded, I'd suggest muting them until you see the intro pass. Thanks for watching.
Not my happiest fap.
R0N1N sorry too disappoint. Try my next video ;)