I don’t know why Henry VIII even married after Anne of Cleves due to his impotence. He obviously couldn’t produce any more heirs let alone him achieve an erection to even try! Poor Catherine. 😢
@@eduardpena6580 it was more of a diplomatic marriage, but he probably hoped for some love at first sight bs. Henry was advised of the benefits of rehabilitating his image abroad by making a marriage with some noble or royal family. Most European royals weren't keen on an alliance with Henry, though, and he ended up with a choice between Anne and Amalia, the sisters of the Duke of Cleves. Cleves was a small German dukedom. He chose Anne as the older and more attractive of the 2.
Well that was not something Henry wanted to announce to the court (especially given what George Boleyn read at his trial about Henry’s impotence and lack of pleasing a woman plus all the embarrassment to Henry in regards to divorcing Anne of Cleaves and his lack of potency). It was said Henry was always pawing Catherine Howard in public and going on about his marriage delights.
Supposedly, on first meeting Henry pretended to be someone else, but she rejected this ‘ugly old man’ saying where’s the king? When he said ‘Me,’ she couldn’t hide her disgust. His ego made it him rejecting her. Not sure of source, but IMO not far from truth.
Justice as Henry had executed his ancestor Thomas. What a horrible time to be alive with such changing religions and factions you never knew which to follow.
Oh better still, Cromwell got his own very well deserved comeuppance. Cromwell's body, was hanged, drawn, and quartered, and his body was thrown into a pit. His head was displayed on a pole outside Westminster Hall until 1684. All his work was undone, his son Richard overgrown, and the British monarchy was restored. Several of Cromwell's children faced early deaths too.
@@aaronwilkinson8963 I'm sick of hearing this justification for his actions. He was always a complete narcissist and was always vicious when he didn't get what he wanted. One of his first acts as a teenage king was to throw Empson and Dudley to the wolves, all for popular/political support. He also destroyed Buckingham too, on very dodgy hearsay evidence (even Thomas More thought so). The way he treated Katherine of Aragon and Wolsey was off-the-scale horrendous. All of this long was before his jousting accident.
It was a Tudor thing, really. Henry VIII learned this behavior from his father Henry VII Tudor. Upon ascending the throne, Henry ordered his henchmen to destroy all written documents about his predecessor, Richard III, so that no 'evidence' of his reign would be left, especially the good things, which is why we for example don't know what happened to the Princes in the Tower. Henry Tudor burned all written documents. Now the petty, vindictive behavior of his monstrously obese, psychopathic son makes perfect sense, right? He had to learn it somewhere. Also, the fact that Henry VIII was a tall and fat womanizer comes from his grandfather, Edward IV. Henry took mostly after Edward, and then after his mother. Edward IV was also tall. Actually, he was and still is the tallest king on the throne of England, with hs grandson Henry VIII follow wing. Both Edward and Henry had girly voices, were womanizers (although Henry was more of a mislead romantic and serial monogamist, rather than a true fuckster, which Edward definitely was), and loved to gorge on enormous amounts of food, which is why both men grew massively obese in their mid 30s. Poor Henry VIII DEFINITELY inherited tge worst genes possible, or their combination.
Henry's younger daughter Lady Elizabeth had grown to love her latest stepmother (and late mother's cousin) the new Queen Catherine who had been kind to her- and that the eight-year-old girl's reaction upon hearing of her stepmother's execution was to declare that she would NEVER marry ( regardless of this claim's validity, she managed to stay single the rest of her life even when teasing rival monarchs to do her favors for her to possibly consider marrying them).
@@ruthbashford3176 That's a good question and I agree that virtually every woman who'd had family/friends who had gone through childbirth would have been quite aware of the risks. However, there is no record of Elizabeth expressing a fear of childbirth- and, in fact, when she was told of her cousin Mary's having safely borne the future James VI&I, Elizabeth was recorded as crying out 'Alak! The Queen of Scots is lighter a bonny son but I am of BARREN stock!' So, it's possible that Elizabeth had reason to believe that she had fertility issues. OTOH, she kept teasing male kings via dangling the possibility of her marrying them IF they did her political favors well into her late 50's with her courtiers even claiming that God had somehow miraculously preserved her body to be able to safely bear children that late! Of course, she often disdained marriage one time holding up someone's wedding ring and sniffing that ' I should call it a YOKE ring!'
No not really. A narcissist would be more likely. A psychopath would have no problem facing their victim and rubbing it in that they got one over on you. Henry never did that. He ran away every single time.
@1123pio7 he was worse than a psychopath, he was a down man who murdered at least 2 of his poor wives & many more people, at least some 70,000 innocent people & he really deserves to be punished severely in hell 😢😢😢😢
@@huolalupin6008 Someone hasn't even read the Wikipedia of Catherine; it has an entire section on there being no confirmed painting of her. Including this one, which as the above says, is more likely to be Elizabeth Seymour. Back to school, genius.
The popular opinion of Henry VIII as our greatest monarch is so very, very flawed and disregards so many other, more worthy options who actually achieved more than their own gratification.
Henry VIII was a vile & cruel man. He tried to save his soul on his deathbed by admitting that he was an unjust ruler & asked God for his forgiveness. Surely a just God wouldn't accept this 11th hour confession.
How do you know? The God of the Old Testament is a genocidal maniac who can't get enough blood (read it for goodness sake: it is full of examples of God ordering His people to wipe out other peoples and/or enslave them. Including children. He might well have approved of Henry: a chip off the old block.
@@macmachine Just Because God Will Forgive You Still Have To Pay Your Karmic Debt Whether It Be For Good Or Bad And Lets Face It Henry VIII Incurred Serious Bad Karmic Debt To Be Paid.
Lessons to be learned from this. 1. Men, stop creeping on women way too young for you. 2. Parents, teach your daughters that nothing good ever comes from getting involved with much older guys. Most of them are predators who just want to use them.
@FredPorlock-1892 , consider that one of the men who testified against Catherine was her music teacher who admitted to what we would now call grooming and molesting her. Sorry, but when that is going on, the fault is on the adults who should know better. Do you really think that a child who is preyed on by adults to be the one at fault? If you do, you are sick.
I'd like to see how you act if you've an infected leg wound, in constant pain, unable to exercise after being an incredibly fit desirable young man. I bet you'd be a whiny little wanker.
I would like reliable sources for the claim Henry had Catherine dissolved. I haven't heard that from any reliable historian. What sources did you use for this video? (Please, don't say Wikipedia.)
I think its really hard for modern ppl to understand the minds of ppl before modern medicine. They all lived with the knowledge they could easily get ill and die at any time. Sneezing in the morning, dead by bedtime.
Henry wasn't supposed to be king as his older brother died young but without Henry British history might be completely different i.e getting rid of the pope.
Francis Derum didn't know Katherine Howard would later be married the king so don't get why he was executed. He didn't sleep with her when she was married to the king.🤷
He followed her to London and blackmailed her. Telling her to give him a position in court or he would tell the king she wasn’t a virgin when they married
I admire your lack of knowledge of how the minds of narcists work.. think of them as toddlers, everything is theirs, and no one else is to touch it, ever.
At 1:16 I hear a word that sounds like "chudah monic." Maybe they are trying to say "tudor monic." That still does not make sense. Does anyone know what the word is?
@@Lindyloo61 Exactly. We probably don't really know what Anne Boleyn looked like either. Henry wanted any record of them removed from public consciousness. He promoted his version of cancel culture long before the modern day!
@@HowieHoward-ti3dx - also Jane Boleyn, Lady Rochford, wife of Anne's brother George. Jane was beheaded the same day as Queen Catherine Howard. Jane was buried in the church of St Peter ad Vincula alongside Queen Catherine and close to the bodies of Anne Boleyn and Jane's husband George Boleyn.
Henry was a tyrant, mysoginistic, arrogant. Controlling, bully self absorbed, paranoid. Imagine having all those characteristics and being in charge of the country. Oh lightbulb moment. 😂
“To put a crown on someone's head in an official ceremony that makes that person king, queen, etc. Some people think this use is not correct and prefer to use the verb "crown.": King Charles was coronated, greeted with great excitement from some but apathy from others.” Cambridge Dictionary
Huge value was placed on the virginity of aristocratic girls, but no one looked out for Catherine. Strange that she was at the mercy of men who took advantage of her when she was so young. You would think she would be protected, but she wasn’t.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/McLeod_syndrome Henry had no problem with having a first child with any woman, but a second child with the same woman never occurred. Also he seems to have become noticeably unbalanced in 1540 & started killing everyone, suggested not least by his own contrite retrospection. I'd guess he inherited this from his great-grandmother, Jacquetta of Luxembourg. Her male descendants reproduced themselves poorly, whereas her female ones did not.
Do we know really if she did all or some of the fornication and even if she did then why kill her for it? Was there just rumors,in the first place to cover jealousy?
A Courtier was someone who had a place at a Royal court. Many but not all were of the nobility, in Dukes, Earls etc. These people were companions or advisers . Other courtiers were ordinary people like soldiers, secretaries, clergymen.
Enough of your man hating of Henry , whether it is Catherine Howard and others It is their family members who were so ambitious they would use their young daughters to advance their own position within the Royal Court?
@ Look with what happened to the unfortunate Lady Jane Grey, I hate to expose your ignorance about British history? Unlike the left, I will criticise whoever you are wherever you are whatever religion you are if you are against the good people of the British working class people Margaret Thatcher knew all about this. Donald Trump has now appointed a good loyalist and I said the word loyalist to take over the FBI against the instigators of him for the last 4 to5 years.
@ yes, absolutely against women who have a problem with men, whether it is their fathers, their brothers, their partners are husbands who have a hatred of men they are called Misandrists. Do I hate them with every fibre of my body and what are you gonna do to me as per normal all verbal no action. If you want to take it further than that it’s up to you, we will take the challenge on?
You'd think her uncle would have warned her that cheating on the king was very bad for her health. I mean it's not as if Henry did not have prior form for chopping people's heads off. Likewise for her two boyfriends. Did these people have a deathwish?
When I was a kid and learned in school what this monstrosity was allowed to do to his wives, I wanted nothing to do with the English. Don't know why it hit me like that, but I figured any country that would allow it's leader to do that wasn't worth much.
Don't be such a stupid melt. Compared to the unbelievable atrocities caused by other nations across the world at the time and since, the English ( British) have been paragons of virtue. You should read up on history as you seem to have absolutely no concept of what has been going on. We had one infamous king and you go to pieces.
@@spanishpeaches2930 I was a kid, and had issues at the time involving what my Mom was going through. Thought those who let someone do that to a women was not worth much. Still think he should not have been allowed to do it. Still look at most royalty with disrespect.
@@phucdims1984 Castigate a whole nation from the acts of one person ? Who are such.people who would stand up to a mentally ill, tyrant. Are they the same people who would have stood up to Stalin or H./itl.er or Pol Pot ? A country like the UK has given the world every important invention from the Steam Engine to the WWW. Think on.
Slaves, obey your earthly masters with respect and fear, and with sincerity of heart, just as you would obey Christ. Obey them not only to win their favour when their eye is upon you, but as slaves of Christ, doing the will of God from your heart. Serve wholeheartedly, as if you were serving the Lord, not King, because you know that the Lord will reward each one for whatever good they do, whether they are slave or free. And masters, treat your slaves in the same way. Do not threaten them, since you know that he who is both their Master and yours is in heaven, and there is no favouritism with him. - Ephesians 6:5-9
and this right there is why mentally sane people hate and revile religions, as churches are nothing but instruments of oppression and tools for abusers..
Exactly. She wasn’t naive at all. She was at least 16 and had seen how her cousin was treated at court. She knew she was playing with fire, she was just not used to consequences.
Well her and the boyfriends were not very wise. I guess it's hard to be wise when you're horny though, as many I'm sure will attest. I think if it were me the very real danger of getting my big head lopped off might just keep the little guy from getting his way with the king's wife.
Don’t you dare compare the two. Henry for all his faults actually did some good. Trump isn’t even in the same field. Because of Henry England had four Queens. Two actually got rule in their own right. One ruled on behalf of Henry while he was fighting a war. The other lost her head before she could be crowned and take power. Trump wouldn’t have done that. He wants to take all women rights away.
Oh my goodness! I can’t believe thatI’ve just found your comment! I was thinking exactly the same thing! It just goes to show that five hundred years further on, civilisation really hasn’t progressed very far with some folk! I wonder if trump will get so big that he’ll explode too?
Coronate "is in the dictionaries", both Oxford and Cambridge, it is a correct term with plenty of history of usage, it is just less commonly used than crowning as a verb for putting a Corona on someone's head.😊
@joygimbel7760 The kings of the 1700s were the Georgians.perhaps you should extract your cranium from its hiding place and apply some rationality to your raging bigotry.
@@DNADoesntLie You are obviously not very bright, but please try not to lose the plot so comprehensively. Catherine Howard was not a robot. She had free will and chose to use it to commit what was then, and now, treason. The penalty for treason was death. I don't approve of the death penalty, but that is irrelevant. Henry was justified in his actions,given the then current law.
Shame about the misandry, especially the fat shaming. Without condoning what happened to her no mention here of any fickleness and two timing of women gold diggers. Bias in history is not a good look
Dumb comment. She was a child who had no choice. No one could refuse Henry 8th. Sexually abused. She did not get herself into that disgusting "marriage". The king got what he wanted. How can you call her a gold digger when she was used by her family and others to gain fame and fortune for themselves through her marriage. And he was fat, in fact he was obese. There' s no fat shaming when you tell the truth.
Omg!!!!! So, you're JUSTIFYING the beheading of 2 women???? One, only really just a girl. FU. Love how you preface your statement with the useless words "without condoning," though everything you stated after does, in fact, seem to condone it. Ghastly! Women beware this man!!!! Or men. Either way: yikes.
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If you have 6 wives, You might be the problem
Right?😂🙌
Might?
You must have never been married. lol
Or three.
Disgust! He wanted a male heir. He went thru wife's like paper towel.
Catherine Howard and Ann Boleyn were first cousins. Ann's mother was a Howard. Henry killed 3 members of the Boleyn/Howard family. What a monster!
Wasn’t it 4? Ann Boleyn, George Boleyn, his wife Jane Boleyn, and Ann’s father
@@sassytbc7923 I think he also killed an uncle (I think it was Catherine's Uncle), Thomas Howard.
Catherine Howard was used & reused as an object , was young her vulnerability
took her to her downfall .
Catherine was very foolish.
She was a promiscuous little madam and a damned fool into the bargain.
@@markmode2568She was barely 17, of course she was foolish! Have you spent anytime with teenagers?
@@April-xs9tk have you spent any time with Adults?
I don’t know why Henry VIII even married after Anne of Cleves due to his impotence. He obviously couldn’t produce any more heirs let alone him achieve an erection to even try! Poor Catherine. 😢
I believe Henry's alleged impotence (or a reported rumor thereof) was used as evidence in the trials of Culpepper et al...
@@eduardpena6580 it was more of a diplomatic marriage, but he probably hoped for some love at first sight bs. Henry was advised of the benefits of rehabilitating his image abroad by making a marriage with some noble or royal family. Most European royals weren't keen on an alliance with Henry, though, and he ended up with a choice between Anne and Amalia, the sisters of the Duke of Cleves. Cleves was a small German dukedom. He chose Anne as the older and more attractive of the 2.
Well that was not something Henry wanted to announce to the court (especially given what George Boleyn read at his trial about Henry’s impotence and lack of pleasing a woman plus all the embarrassment to Henry in regards to divorcing Anne of Cleaves and his lack of potency). It was said Henry was always pawing Catherine Howard in public and going on about his marriage delights.
His penis was useless to the British empire and should have been dissolved.
Id say that was a blessing, if true
Anne of Cleves lucked out by him rejecting her!
Anna of Cleves was wise to have accepted the annulment.
"Lucked out" ? That isn't how you spell "I have no brain".
Supposedly, on first meeting Henry pretended to be someone else, but she rejected this ‘ugly old man’ saying where’s the king? When he said ‘Me,’ she couldn’t hide her disgust. His ego made it him rejecting her. Not sure of source, but IMO not far from truth.
@@markmode2568 , pretty sure she was happy about it.
@@kellytrimble7019 Anna the Clever!
at least Henry VIII got his comeuppance. His Gold effigy and coffin was melted down by Oliver Cromwell for the gold. 🤣🤣🤣
Justice as Henry had executed his ancestor Thomas. What a horrible time to be alive with such changing religions and factions you never knew which to follow.
Oh better still, Cromwell got his own very well deserved comeuppance. Cromwell's body, was hanged, drawn, and quartered, and his body was thrown into a pit. His head was displayed on a pole outside Westminster Hall until 1684. All his work was undone, his son Richard overgrown, and the British monarchy was restored. Several of Cromwell's children faced early deaths too.
And the Tudor dynasty didn't last long!
@@skycloud4802 you like worshiping a king then do you?
The savvy people of the time steered well clear of Henry knowing no good would come from it.
Before his jousting accident Henry would have been great fun. But he fell off his horse and broke his brain. So the theory is
@@aaronwilkinson8963 I'm sick of hearing this justification for his actions. He was always a complete narcissist and was always vicious when he didn't get what he wanted. One of his first acts as a teenage king was to throw Empson and Dudley to the wolves, all for popular/political support. He also destroyed Buckingham too, on very dodgy hearsay evidence (even Thomas More thought so). The way he treated Katherine of Aragon and Wolsey was off-the-scale horrendous. All of this long was before his jousting accident.
He dissolved the monasteries and much of our history too.
It was a Tudor thing, really. Henry VIII learned this behavior from his father Henry VII Tudor. Upon ascending the throne, Henry ordered his henchmen to destroy all written documents about his predecessor, Richard III, so that no 'evidence' of his reign would be left, especially the good things, which is why we for example don't know what happened to the Princes in the Tower. Henry Tudor burned all written documents. Now the petty, vindictive behavior of his monstrously obese, psychopathic son makes perfect sense, right? He had to learn it somewhere. Also, the fact that Henry VIII was a tall and fat womanizer comes from his grandfather, Edward IV. Henry took mostly after Edward, and then after his mother. Edward IV was also tall. Actually, he was and still is the tallest king on the throne of England, with hs grandson Henry VIII follow wing. Both Edward and Henry had girly voices, were womanizers (although Henry was more of a mislead romantic and serial monogamist, rather than a true fuckster, which Edward definitely was), and loved to gorge on enormous amounts of food, which is why both men grew massively obese in their mid 30s. Poor Henry VIII DEFINITELY inherited tge worst genes possible, or their combination.
Henry's younger daughter Lady Elizabeth had grown to love her latest stepmother (and late mother's cousin) the new Queen Catherine who had been kind to her- and that the eight-year-old girl's reaction upon hearing of her stepmother's execution was to declare that she would NEVER marry ( regardless of this claim's validity, she managed to stay single the rest of her life even when teasing rival monarchs to do her favors for her to possibly consider marrying them).
Do you think Elizabeth was frightened of childbirth? What woman wouldn't be in the 16th Century?
@@ruthbashford3176 That's a good question and I agree that virtually every woman who'd had family/friends who had gone through childbirth would have been quite aware of the risks.
However, there is no record of Elizabeth expressing a fear of childbirth- and, in fact, when she was told of her cousin Mary's having safely borne the future James VI&I, Elizabeth was recorded as crying out 'Alak! The Queen of Scots is lighter a bonny son but I am of BARREN stock!'
So, it's possible that Elizabeth had reason to believe that she had fertility issues.
OTOH, she kept teasing male kings via dangling the possibility of her marrying them IF they did her political favors well into her late 50's with her courtiers even claiming that God had somehow miraculously preserved her body to be able to safely bear children that late!
Of course, she often disdained marriage one time holding up someone's wedding ring and sniffing that ' I should call it a YOKE ring!'
He was a psychopath.
Ya think?
No not really. A narcissist would be more likely. A psychopath would have no problem facing their victim and rubbing it in that they got one over on you. Henry never did that. He ran away every single time.
He was a womanizer. Never satisfied.
@1123pio7 he was worse than a psychopath, he was a down man who murdered at least 2 of his poor wives & many more people, at least some 70,000 innocent people & he really deserves to be punished severely in hell 😢😢😢😢
He prob also had syfilis driving him mad.
He was an evil man devoid of any compassion.
How brave was Catherine Howard. Not sure I would go so eloquently
Brainwashed..
Well , if you bad mouthed Henry , your family may suffer .
He murdered them
The image used here of Catherine Howard is likely Elizabeth Seymour, Lady Cromwell (Henry VIII's sister-in-law).
What, all of the images, all quite clearly of the same person? Stroll on genius.
He's correct, this portrait was debunked years ago by historians and experts. @@huolalupin6008
You're correct, most experts and historians debunked this as being Kathryn Howard decades ago.
Well, I did think she looked rather old for a 17 year old.
@@huolalupin6008 Someone hasn't even read the Wikipedia of Catherine; it has an entire section on there being no confirmed painting of her. Including this one, which as the above says, is more likely to be Elizabeth Seymour. Back to school, genius.
Quick Lime - is used to dissolve skin, it doesn't affect bone (even young bone).
The popular opinion of Henry VIII as our greatest monarch is so very, very flawed and disregards so many other, more worthy options who actually achieved more than their own gratification.
He wasn't our greatest monarch but def the most notorious 😊
Henry! not only had these two ladies executed. He was also responsible for the execution of literally thousands of people.
Also rip lady Rochford.😢
The heart of a fool is in his mouth, but the mouth of a wise man is in his heart
Profound, but what is your point?
Henry VIII was a vile & cruel man.
He tried to save his soul on his deathbed by admitting that he was an unjust ruler & asked God for his forgiveness.
Surely a just God wouldn't accept this 11th hour confession.
How do you know? The God of the Old Testament is a genocidal maniac who can't get enough blood (read it for goodness sake: it is full of examples of God ordering His people to wipe out other peoples and/or enslave them. Including children. He might well have approved of Henry: a chip off the old block.
God is not a fool.
A just God will forgive any sinner...if they are truly repentant.
@@macmachine Just Because God Will Forgive You Still Have To Pay Your Karmic Debt Whether It Be For Good Or Bad And Lets Face It Henry VIII Incurred Serious Bad Karmic Debt To Be Paid.
@macmachine Are you Priest? 😂
Interesting narrative and excellent clear diction. Many thanks. Rmb5*
This Guy saved a fortune on divorce Lawyers.
C'est si triste...
Lessons to be learned from this.
1. Men, stop creeping on women way too young for you.
2. Parents, teach your daughters that nothing good ever comes from getting involved with much older guys. Most of them are predators who just want to use them.
What about: young women shouldn’t sleep around??
@FredPorlock-1892 , consider that one of the men who testified against Catherine was her music teacher who admitted to what we would now call grooming and molesting her. Sorry, but when that is going on, the fault is on the adults who should know better. Do you really think that a child who is preyed on by adults to be the one at fault? If you do, you are sick.
@ Ah. So I either agree flat-out with your opinion, or I am sick. How very tolerant of you.
@@FredPorlock-1892 , do you blame SA victims? How about people who are burgled?
3. Take no notice of silly woke ladies writing comments on UA-cam videos.
“Divorced,Beheaded,died,divorced,beheaded,survived ! “
Good video. As always.
The current monarch considers Henry a hero, terribly misunderstood...says a lot about the current monarch
Yikes
I'd like to see how you act if you've an infected leg wound, in constant pain, unable to exercise after being an incredibly fit desirable young man. I bet you'd be a whiny little wanker.
evidence?
You just made that up sweetie 🤣🤣🤣
@@boswellwhanau fr. I haven't found any evidence of that (I might suspect Prince Andrew though😬).
I would like reliable sources for the claim Henry had Catherine dissolved. I haven't heard that from any reliable historian. What sources did you use for this video? (Please, don't say Wikipedia.)
You could try britannica,, must agree with you Wikipedia, is amateur, and rubbish.
The last thing I'd do is marry a man who had a previous wife beheaded. Could Catherine Howard have refused to marry the king?
Probably not.
She was trapped!
I think its really hard for modern ppl to understand the minds of ppl before modern medicine. They all lived with the knowledge they could easily get ill and die at any time. Sneezing in the morning, dead by bedtime.
Henry wasn't supposed to be king as his older brother died young but without Henry British history might be completely different i.e getting rid of the pope.
awful end to a short life.
Culpepper must not have been very bright. Why on earth would you flirt with that Monster's wife, especially in public.
Dumb and Dumber, the history of the British
“Off of”???
The chapel must have stunk with alll those corpses just buried beneath thr floor in dirt.. !😮😅
It would have blended with the normals smells of the time.
@Lindyloo61 uggh...!no wonder they burnt incense
@Lindyloo61 no wonder they burnt incense in churches...!
duh, it's why we call them 'stinking rich'..
I never understood what lady Rothford helped her
I'm surprised that there was no evidence of quick lime. The body would dissolve (eventually) but I don't think the lime would.
What a monster !
Just another example of power corrupts😮😅
Henry VIII, the paranoid and easily fooled tyrant king.
Francis Derum didn't know Katherine Howard would later be married the king so don't get why he was executed. He didn't sleep with her when she was married to the king.🤷
He followed her to London and blackmailed her. Telling her to give him a position in court or he would tell the king she wasn’t a virgin when they married
@@lesleymaner2851Henry VIII had trouble knowing which of his wives were or were not virgins.
@@bonniecarruth8429little dick energy😂
I admire your lack of knowledge of how the minds of narcists work..
think of them as toddlers, everything is theirs, and no one else is to touch it, ever.
Because Henry was a jealous, insecure loathsome "man."
At 1:16 I hear a word that sounds like "chudah monic." Maybe they are trying to say "tudor monic." That still does not make sense. Does anyone know what the word is?
Choodamonic: Tudor monarch.
Tudor monarch. That's what she said.
if in doubt, use the subtitles.
Great information. Please take a breath at punctuation.
He was a proper nasty bastard
In most of her portraits she does not look particularly young.
There are debates whether the portraits are really her
@@Lindyloo61 Exactly. We probably don't really know what Anne Boleyn looked like either. Henry wanted any record of them removed from public consciousness. He promoted his version of cancel culture long before the modern day!
You would think they would at least find a layer of lime. That doesn't vanish.
this guy brings out a poll??? We do not accept polls
Has anyone noticed th resemblance to Prince Harry
Henry had Katherine Howard and Jane Bolyen killed. It was just as if he had been there to do the deed.
Anne Boleyn.
@@HowieHoward-ti3dx - also Jane Boleyn, Lady Rochford, wife of Anne's brother George.
Jane was beheaded the same day as Queen Catherine Howard. Jane was buried in the church of St Peter
ad Vincula alongside Queen Catherine and close to the bodies of Anne Boleyn and Jane's husband George Boleyn.
@@HowieHoward-ti3dxand Jane.
@@HowieHoward-ti3dx Jane Boleyn was executed just after Catherine. All you have to do is google it.
Henry was a tyrant, mysoginistic, arrogant. Controlling, bully self absorbed, paranoid. Imagine having all those characteristics and being in charge of the country. Oh lightbulb moment. 😂
Henry was just a man of his time.
Modern woman criticises late Medieval customs. 😮
@@zenden6564 , modern man wants to go back to medieval times.🙄
King henry was a dirty old git
‘Corinated’? Surely, ‘crowned’.
Try telling these people ...
Coronate: a transitive verb meaning “to crown”
@@tonib9027 I'm sure "burglarize" is in the Simpleton's Dictionary as well. Happy reading!
@@huolalupin6008I wouldn’t know. Can I borrow yours?
“To put a crown on someone's head in an official ceremony that makes that person king, queen, etc. Some people think this use is not correct and prefer to use the verb "crown.": King Charles was coronated, greeted with great excitement from some but apathy from others.” Cambridge Dictionary
Catherine Howard, poor girl, never knew the Monster she was getting into bed with.
Coronated? Isnt it "crowned"?
Coronated is also acceptable.
look it up, you have access to the internet, obviously.
the words both mean the same thing.
Huge value was placed on the virginity of aristocratic girls, but no one looked out for Catherine. Strange that she was at the mercy of men who took advantage of her when she was so young. You would think she would be protected, but she wasn’t.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/McLeod_syndrome
Henry had no problem with having a first child with any woman, but a second child with the same woman never occurred. Also he seems to have become noticeably unbalanced in 1540 & started killing everyone, suggested not least by his own contrite retrospection.
I'd guess he inherited this from his great-grandmother, Jacquetta of Luxembourg. Her male descendants reproduced themselves poorly, whereas her female ones did not.
Very interesting, but are you sure 'coronated' is an actual word?
Yes, it is.
what is wrong with people, do you not know how to use the internet?
Henry had problems
he was the problem, usually.
Henry must have been Mexican cartel
avant la lettre, yes.
Do we know really if she did all or some of the fornication and even if she did then why kill her for it? Was there just rumors,in the first place to cover jealousy?
Henry the 8th.... Oink oink...
pigs are very intelligent animals, as such this could be an offensive remark.. but the smell is uncannily similar. ☺
Please, continue to do the narrating, you and the gent can pronounce the Queens English (King now) and not mispronounce every second word.
Henry is hated by the irish ,he banned irish culture in ireland on pain of death..!😮😅
he is hated by everyone except the types that hail trump.
Poor thing
What the expletive is a "core-TEER"?
A Courtier was someone who had a place at a Royal court. Many but not all were of the nobility, in Dukes, Earls etc. These people were companions or advisers . Other courtiers were ordinary people like soldiers, secretaries, clergymen.
A king's hanger-on, a "homie", with some king's, a noble groupie. All kings and superstars have them of one kind or another.
@@FranFinley-e1u It's pronounced COR-tee-er
a courtier.
look it up, or is your google broken?
@esmeraldaweatherwaxe970 The AI voice or whatever pronounced it wrong.
Murderer, playboy, leader of Church of England.
don't forget the stench from his wound.. the rotting corpse smell that permeated the air around him.
Enough of your man hating of Henry , whether it is Catherine Howard and others It is their family members who were so ambitious they would use their young daughters to advance their own position within the Royal Court?
Yes, the young ladies' fathers and brothers! Let the man hating recommence!😂😅
@ Look with what happened to the unfortunate Lady Jane Grey, I hate to expose your ignorance about British history? Unlike the left, I will criticise whoever you are wherever you are whatever religion you are if you are against the good people of the British working class people Margaret Thatcher knew all about this. Donald Trump has now appointed a good loyalist and I said the word loyalist to take over the FBI against the instigators of him for the last 4 to5 years.
@ yes, absolutely against women who have a problem with men, whether it is their fathers, their brothers, their partners are husbands who have a hatred of men they are called Misandrists. Do I hate them with every fibre of my body and what are you gonna do to me as per normal all verbal no action. If you want to take it further than that it’s up to you, we will take the challenge on?
@@valeriemarott1923😂😂😂
You'd think her uncle would have warned her that cheating on the king was very bad for her health. I mean it's not as if Henry did not have prior form for chopping people's heads off. Likewise for her two boyfriends. Did these people have a deathwish?
Es ist kein kadavre zu erblicken!!!!!
Very interesting piece of history thank you.
These people are nothing to do with the native Brits.
I think Henry changed considerably after his jousting accident. He may of even had a brain injury , altering his behaviour and mood.
David Starkey has pointed out that Henry VIII had been executing his friends before his jousting accident. The actual dates prove it.
There's also thought his medication after the accident contained lead. And that altered his personality.
Yes, i think long term use could be a factor.
Probably frontal lobe injury as causes significant behavioural changes
infections do drive people nuts..
it's why we started with the mandatory dentist check ups back in the day..
Hey y'all 😮
head of the Anglican Church. no pun.
Maybe they pretended she was killed and stayed at the convent
I've seen guys on #4
🤮
and he was ginger... bit red flag there
So was she.
The royals would do the same today if they got away with it😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡
Charles did. He just used a car
In fact, they are not.
@@MTClassicMovieChannel😂 conspiracy theories do not make a fact .
@MTClassicMovieChannel that is very good I like that, plus the fact she was getting to close to a Muslim.
When I was a kid and learned in school what this monstrosity was allowed to do to his wives, I wanted nothing to do with the English. Don't know why it hit me like that, but I figured any country that would allow it's leader to do that wasn't worth much.
Don't be such a stupid melt. Compared to the unbelievable atrocities caused by other nations across the world at the time and since, the English ( British) have been paragons of virtue. You should read up on history as you seem to have absolutely no concept of what has been going on. We had one infamous king and you go to pieces.
I am struggling to believe that someone could actually think that. One king who had men.t.al issues and you condemn a whole nation??
@@spanishpeaches2930 I was a kid, and had issues at the time involving what my Mom was going through. Thought those who let someone do that to a women was not worth much. Still think he should not have been allowed to do it. Still look at most royalty with disrespect.
@@phucdims1984 Castigate a whole nation from the acts of one person ? Who are such.people who would stand up to a mentally ill, tyrant. Are they the same people who would have stood up to Stalin or H./itl.er or Pol Pot ? A country like the UK has given the world every important invention from the Steam Engine to the WWW. Think on.
yep, and that's why people do not look kindly on murrica these days..
Didn’t stop any of the women
like they had a choice, back then it was law to give the king whatever took his fancy.. if you refused you were his enemy and those did not live long.
Slaves, obey your earthly masters with respect and fear, and with sincerity of heart, just as you would obey Christ. Obey them not only to win their favour when their eye is upon you, but as slaves of Christ, doing the will of God from your heart. Serve wholeheartedly, as if you were serving the Lord, not King, because you know that the Lord will reward each one for whatever good they do, whether they are slave or free. And masters, treat your slaves in the same way. Do not threaten them, since you know that he who is both their Master and yours is in heaven, and there is no favouritism with him. - Ephesians 6:5-9
lol yeah !
and this right there is why mentally sane people hate and revile religions, as churches are nothing but instruments of oppression and tools for abusers..
So horrific 🤮
She was begging for it..she knew who he was
Exactly. She wasn’t naive at all. She was at least 16 and had seen how her cousin was treated at court. She knew she was playing with fire, she was just not used to consequences.
It obvious women in those days just wouldn’t listen
Kings don't listen either.
Well her and the boyfriends were not very wise. I guess it's hard to be wise when you're horny though, as many I'm sure will attest. I think if it were me the very real danger of getting my big head lopped off might just keep the little guy from getting his way with the king's wife.
This is full of gossip. Not facts.
Please enlighten us all with the facts, then.
If Trump lived back in the 16th century, he would be Henry VIII. But without any semblance of intelligence.
Don’t you dare compare the two. Henry for all his faults actually did some good. Trump isn’t even in the same field. Because of Henry England had four Queens. Two actually got rule in their own right. One ruled on behalf of Henry while he was fighting a war. The other lost her head before she could be crowned and take power. Trump wouldn’t have done that. He wants to take all women rights away.
Child
Clinton set an extremely low bar as a governor and president. Be careful what you applaud in politics - it sets acceptable standards.
Oh my goodness! I can’t believe thatI’ve just found your comment! I was thinking exactly the same thing! It just goes to show that five hundred years further on, civilisation really hasn’t progressed very far with some folk! I wonder if trump will get so big that he’ll explode too?
I always think of him watching these.
there is no such word as coronated , it is crowned
Coronate "is in the dictionaries", both Oxford and Cambridge, it is a correct term with plenty of history of usage, it is just less commonly used than crowning as a verb for putting a Corona on someone's head.😊
It was first used in 1682, and is def in Oxford dictionary.
here we see the sad state of some people's lack of education, shameless and brazen.
I see. All women are total innocents, victims of predatory men with no free will or responsibility for their actions. How come I have never met one?
When faced with a king in the 1700’s she had zero free will. He had 6 wives yet you still defend him. Maybe you’re the problem.
@joygimbel7760 The kings of the 1700s were the Georgians.perhaps you should extract your cranium from its hiding place and apply some rationality to your raging bigotry.
A woman or girl and her family could not say no to the king 🙄
So, he was justified in beheading them?!?! Yikes, dude.
@@DNADoesntLie You are obviously not very bright, but please try not to lose the plot so comprehensively. Catherine Howard was not a robot. She had free will and chose to use it to commit what was then, and now, treason. The penalty for treason was death. I don't approve of the death penalty, but that is irrelevant. Henry was justified in his actions,given the then current law.
I could be wrong but I think the videos narrator doesn't like Henry , and possibly hates men😂
hating abusers does not mean one hates men.
unless you are trying to say all men are like Henry?
Dreadful narration . . .
Shame about the misandry, especially the fat shaming. Without condoning what happened to her no mention here of any fickleness and two timing of women gold diggers. Bias in history is not a good look
Gold digger? She had zero say in her marriage to a grotesque old pedophile.
Dumb comment.
She was a child who had no choice. No one could refuse Henry 8th. Sexually abused. She did not get herself into that disgusting "marriage". The king got what he wanted. How can you call her a gold digger when she was used by her family and others to gain fame and fortune for themselves through her marriage. And he was fat, in fact he was obese. There' s no fat shaming when you tell the truth.
Having 2 of your wives murdered is not a great look either…
Omg!!!!! So, you're JUSTIFYING the beheading of 2 women???? One, only really just a girl. FU. Love how you preface your statement with the useless words "without condoning," though everything you stated after does, in fact, seem to condone it. Ghastly! Women beware this man!!!! Or men. Either way: yikes.
Tbh most of the Aristo's were pretty awful people so we shouldn't feel too much pity.
This guy was disgusting 🤢