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      @CalopsitaVanderbilt1911 4 роки тому +10

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    • @carlosmarcial6201
      @carlosmarcial6201 4 роки тому +14

      Poor Mary of Tudor. She was treated like shit by her father. Because he rejected her mom. She was product of his first marriage, and he treated her like a bastard. That's really sad. On the other hand. Elizabeth also hadn't an easy childhood.

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  • @fvnaticbychoice
    @fvnaticbychoice 4 роки тому +9678

    "Mary suffered from low spirits" is that old timey talk for depression im assuming

    • @chrissiek8706
      @chrissiek8706 4 роки тому +285

      Got the morb, how victorians would say

    • @1b4101
      @1b4101 4 роки тому +293

      I’m such an idiot!! I thought they were referring to alcohol when mentioned “spirits.” It totally didn’t make any sense for her to suffer from lack of alcohol but I ran with it (stupid!). Depression makes more sense, I hope that’s what they meant

    • @Tala_toto399
      @Tala_toto399 4 роки тому +20

      I think so

    • @Bizarro2024
      @Bizarro2024 4 роки тому +106

      @@1b4101 Your comment made me giggle, lol! If I hadn't read Historical Books and Vids with the old terminology, I'd have thought the same thing about the low spirit meaning too with a big question mark above my head! ;b

    • @DustinTheHuman
      @DustinTheHuman 4 роки тому +22

      I'm still suffering 😭

  • @irawilliams343
    @irawilliams343 4 роки тому +6012

    Mary and Elizabeth had a loving relationship when their father was still alive. They were united by blood but divided by the crown.

    • @liaruth9795
      @liaruth9795 4 роки тому +90

      Ira Williams very well said!

    • @tonimp4317
      @tonimp4317 4 роки тому +603

      Also, imagine being the darling of your father only to have him suddenly declare you illegitimate and push you aside for a new wife. And then for that to happen all over again. Mary and Elizabeth would have had a lot in common as their histories were almost the same. To have loved each other and then have to turn on each other must have been heartbreaking.

    • @robinlillian9471
      @robinlillian9471 4 роки тому +363

      Toni MP: Elizabeth was a focus of Protestant rebellion through no fault of her own. Mary loved her enough not to have her executed. That's more than Henry VIII would have done.

    • @charlotrisch5138
      @charlotrisch5138 4 роки тому +257

      Actually when elizabeth was a baby mary doted of elizabeth and elizabeth wanted no one else but mary. So sad to see a crown divide these sisters. Mary had such a very sad life from a young age. Elizabeth was visited but only when henry had time for her. Henry was so goad dropping his children at his own whim.

    • @charlotrisch5138
      @charlotrisch5138 4 роки тому +3

      @@robinlillian9471 absolutely

  • @m0L3ify
    @m0L3ify 3 роки тому +2611

    "Henry loved children."
    Aw, that's so nice!
    "He used his daughter as a political pawn."
    Wait, what?
    "And he also used her as emotional blackmail against her mother."
    Hold up...

    • @tishthedish1533
      @tishthedish1533 3 роки тому +55

      😂 ikr

    • @nadyarossi5102
      @nadyarossi5102 3 роки тому +111

      Henry was one of the most depraved, brutal rulers in the history of the world.

    • @angelwilliamsp8019
      @angelwilliamsp8019 3 роки тому +18

      Right😂🤣😂🤣

    • @nenitaborjas1272
      @nenitaborjas1272 3 роки тому +40

      That was acceptable at that time
      In another 300 years we’ll have machines raising our kids and being with them for “more then x amount of hours a day” we’ll be seen as abuse....
      Then we’ll have a bimbo like you online calling me a bad mom because I spent too much time with my kids and didn’t allow the robots around more often which would have “made them smarter”

    • @m0L3ify
      @m0L3ify 3 роки тому +95

      @@nenitaborjas1272 That escalated quickly...

  • @larapaulyn1488
    @larapaulyn1488 4 роки тому +6588

    what the two daughters did was slapping their father right in the face when Mary put back the Catholicism and Elizabeth ended the Tudor dynasty.

    • @CA-bw9vw
      @CA-bw9vw 4 роки тому +516

      That's a VERY SATISFYING way to think of it 👌

    • @starlara7243
      @starlara7243 4 роки тому +192

      C A EXTREMELY SATISFACTORY 👌🏼

    • @kkandsims4612
      @kkandsims4612 4 роки тому +121

      So true so fucking true

    • @whomstve7346
      @whomstve7346 4 роки тому +164

      as they should 👏

    • @Palaa94
      @Palaa94 4 роки тому +88

      omg, you changed my life. This is such a good point!

  • @yaraserrano9426
    @yaraserrano9426 4 роки тому +8509

    Katherine of Aragón had more balls than Henry when she was pregnant she got on a horse and rescued him in battle

    • @sidoniewinterpasternak9938
      @sidoniewinterpasternak9938 4 роки тому +995

      Of course, Catherine of Aragon was the daughter of Isabella of Castille

    • @cameliaghica2212
      @cameliaghica2212 4 роки тому +172

      What? Sounds interesting. I'll google for it

    • @cameliaghica2212
      @cameliaghica2212 4 роки тому +97

      @Shirley Bailey im still watching the video and i remembered. Ive seen Tudor Tv series. Thats the story 😁

    • @Lara-jv1et
      @Lara-jv1et 4 роки тому +415

      @@cameliaghica2212 Yes, Catharine was leading a battle against Scotland. I think she had a coat soaked in Scotland king's blood and sent to Henry.

    • @altonwashington4396
      @altonwashington4396 4 роки тому +15

      Alright Mr KNOW IT ALL YARA

  • @briannadietrih2292
    @briannadietrih2292 4 роки тому +1155

    So what I’m getting is Mary walked so Elizabeth could runnnnnn

    • @Naiiij
      @Naiiij 4 роки тому +31

      Agreed

    • @jodielee6253
      @jodielee6253 3 роки тому +16

      yes

    • @briannadietrih2292
      @briannadietrih2292 3 роки тому +58

      @@abbeypeters9539 yeah but reign is about Mary queen of Scotland not Mary Tudor

    • @jassyl.2211
      @jassyl.2211 3 роки тому +1

      @@heatherinch3802 its about all of henry's wives

    • @iamwhumxn6153
      @iamwhumxn6153 3 роки тому

      Well we are the same person. So yes.

  • @Nightwalker-zk6ce
    @Nightwalker-zk6ce 4 роки тому +4580

    It always blows my mind at how close Mary came to executing Elizabeth, and how much that would have changed history.

    • @sujana3953
      @sujana3953 4 роки тому +33

      Well it was meant to be😣

    • @Nightwalker-zk6ce
      @Nightwalker-zk6ce 4 роки тому +320

      J C Ruby The line of succession wouldn’t have changed, but everything Elizabeth did while she was queen wouldn’t have happened, and Mary Queen of Scots would have probably been made queen, if Elizabeth had been executed and Mary still died when she did, James would have been too young to rule.

    • @sayurinaha3255
      @sayurinaha3255 4 роки тому +195

      England may not have been as stable and may have never colonised the new world ant America could be something very different.

    • @MikeeDFW
      @MikeeDFW 4 роки тому +62

      James wasn't born until 1566. So Mary Queen of Scots may have been named Queen, she has having a lot of drama in her own life. There might have been a civil war for the crown. Who knows?

    • @O_Ciel_Phant0mhive
      @O_Ciel_Phant0mhive 4 роки тому +18

      @@pbohearn just read your article and I liked it. It is so true that Mary was so underrepresented

  • @angelcarter6387
    @angelcarter6387 4 роки тому +4213

    Edward who was so badly wanted by his father DIES at 15....anyone else think that it was karma?

    • @ladyfire44
      @ladyfire44 4 роки тому +496

      Pretty much. The only one who gave England stability was Elizabeth.

    • @PrincessKarrah
      @PrincessKarrah 4 роки тому +552

      There is no shortage of irony when it comes to the Tudor Katherine was love by the people Mary was completely despised by them. Anne Boleyn was completely despised by the people yet her daughter was loved. The son Henry had to have is hardly remembered yet the daughter he shunned is the one he needed.

    • @alexandralugo1743
      @alexandralugo1743 4 роки тому +51

      @@PrincessKarrah Well said.

    • @PrincessKarrah
      @PrincessKarrah 4 роки тому +165

      You know what also interesting to think Anne Boleyn taught Henry how to take have complete power and that same power is what destroyed her.

    • @deaconsmom2000
      @deaconsmom2000 4 роки тому +70

      No, I think it was atypical cystic fibrosis. Karma doesn't make a bit of sense here. You and 68 other people seem believe karma is a superhero that metes out justice and gives people what they have coming to them (or rather, what all of you think they have coming to them). You are incorrect. What karmic debt did Edward acquire in Henry's quest for a male heir? He didn't ask his father to divorce Katherine, behead Anne, and impregnate Jane. Henry wasn't paying karmic debt either; he was dead. Your theory doesn't hold up.

  • @jmie5
    @jmie5 3 роки тому +118

    Bless Mary for treating her sister far better than Henry ever treated his children.

  • @tashaglam4824
    @tashaglam4824 4 роки тому +9406

    I'm all of a sudden interested in the history of English monarchy.

    • @IsauraMUrena
      @IsauraMUrena 4 роки тому +79

      We are ❤

    • @Fisinocean
      @Fisinocean 4 роки тому +214

      Ah, yes the historical phase. The one that everyone went to unonowingly

    • @she-hulkim1285
      @she-hulkim1285 4 роки тому +299

      As a Afro Latina, so am I. 🤣😂 I have zero ties to England but somehow I’m now obsessed with its history.

    • @friedrice2321
      @friedrice2321 4 роки тому +20

      Same

    • @OmarMohamed_-xc1pi
      @OmarMohamed_-xc1pi 4 роки тому +69

      @Amy L me too I literally watched the crown in 2 days now I'm watching all of those videos loll. If you haven't seen the crown on Netflix I highly recommend it. It talks about the monarchy from George VI ( The previous Queen Elizabeths father )

  • @c.s.7266
    @c.s.7266 4 роки тому +2037

    Poor Mary. She deserved to be treated better by her father.

    • @sheilaburns8977
      @sheilaburns8977 4 роки тому +142

      Yes, Mary was treated poorly by her father, but Mary's religious persecution of the Protestants was horrid. Burning people at the stake for their religion was so wrong.

    • @tanchuzhen9057
      @tanchuzhen9057 4 роки тому +26

      Sheila Burns politician don’t care about people, they are fixated on power and interests

    • @lindahouston9331
      @lindahouston9331 4 роки тому +40

      C. S. She sure did! Henry was horrible to both his daughters.

    • @jmadmaxx7295
      @jmadmaxx7295 4 роки тому +5

      Gary Henzler technically not a genocide...

    • @jmadmaxx7295
      @jmadmaxx7295 4 роки тому +5

      Gary Henzler you forgot intentionally, or mostly intentional. Irish potato famine =/= genocide, Armenian genocide = genocide. I will say the definition is vague.

  • @pleuvixr4408
    @pleuvixr4408 4 роки тому +224

    I have the greatest respect for all the queens that married henry. They all went through something bad with him, all the queens were powerful women.

    • @karladee4982
      @karladee4982 3 роки тому +1

      Saddd

    • @OpulentBWSpace
      @OpulentBWSpace 3 роки тому +8

      @Someone she put up with Henry.

    • @universesavior554
      @universesavior554 3 роки тому +10

      @Someone also the fact she was basically a child being taken advantage of

    • @billie6528
      @billie6528 3 роки тому +1

      @@universesavior554 How was she being taken advantage of? She was very free spirited. She had an affair and it got her into trouble. People were not “children” at 18. Life expectancy in the 1500’s was between 30-40 years old lol!

    • @universesavior554
      @universesavior554 3 роки тому +10

      @@billie6528 she was like 17 when she married Henry and he was like 40+ many of the subjects even found that weird

  • @InnateNobility
    @InnateNobility 4 роки тому +2146

    A lot of these portraits are of Mary Stuart, Queen of Scots -- not Mary Tudor. They are being used because there's a severe lack of portraiture for Mary Tudor.

    • @octaviouswillingham8458
      @octaviouswillingham8458 4 роки тому +124

      Also because Mary of Scotland was very attractive.

    • @charlotrisch5138
      @charlotrisch5138 4 роки тому +144

      Mary Tudor is discribed as beautiful as a child and not ugly but not beautiful as she grew older. Very few portraits of Mary but in my opinion her potraits always look sullen. She has small lidded eyes where as elizabeth had beautiful doe lidded eyes. Mary has a poked small mouth that doesnt seem to know how to smile. Elizabeth has a whimsical charm to her a feminine quality that mary lacks

    • @changingperspective.
      @changingperspective. 4 роки тому +60

      This is probably why I always get confused between the two! I keep thinking Elizabeth ordered the death of her sister, but it was Mary Queen of Scott’s...🙄

    • @InnateNobility
      @InnateNobility 4 роки тому +21

      @@changingperspective. "Sister" was the convention used among all monarchs in Europe during the time. They were brothers and sisters in power and position, but also in religion. Even if they were on opposing sides of the Reformation. It was simply formality, but almost never literal. Sometimes it could be literal.

    • @margaretslaughter8320
      @margaretslaughter8320 4 роки тому +24

      I believe I get the two confused. I watched Reign, about Mary, queen of Scots who also had a sister named Elisabeth. Correct? But she wasnt bloody Mary??

  • @karengilliland2439
    @karengilliland2439 4 роки тому +4148

    If one were being technical , isn`t Lady Jane Grey the first female crowned Queen of England, even if it was just for 9 days.

    • @wvmountaingirl1976
      @wvmountaingirl1976 4 роки тому +338

      That's right. Even I didn't think of that one.

    • @karengilliland2439
      @karengilliland2439 4 роки тому +315

      @@janaalouch1654 Matilda was never crowned Queen of England, she was known as Lady of the English, and her son Henry ll was crowned King.

    • @MehWhatever99
      @MehWhatever99 4 роки тому +307

      Neither Jane, or Matilda, were ever actually Crowned. I think that’s why they specify ‘Crowned’ Queen, rather than just Queen.

    • @Lara-jv1et
      @Lara-jv1et 4 роки тому +111

      There was one queen before Jane Grey, Matilda, long time before Tudors.
      Even if Jane and Matilda were not properly crowned, they were queens.
      Mary probably was first properly crowned queen.
      🏰

    • @briandelaney9710
      @briandelaney9710 4 роки тому +43

      She was a usurper and she was never crowned

  • @xemmyQ
    @xemmyQ 4 роки тому +785

    "women were controlled by emotions not reason"
    [Henry VIII has entered the chat]

    • @ARedMagicMarker
      @ARedMagicMarker 3 роки тому +2

      @e You make absolutely zero sense. =.=

    • @ARedMagicMarker
      @ARedMagicMarker 3 роки тому +6

      @e lel, no. No I don't understand. Not really.
      I get a gist of what you're saying about legitimacy vs. gender, and I do understand that part, because Henry did have living sons, they were just illegitimate. But what you're saying still doesn't add up. Mainly because this whole little distraction's got NOTHING to do with the OP's echoing of the beliefs of the day that women were thought to be completely controlled by their emotions. XD
      That's where you're not making sense.
      The point of the OP was saying that though Henry was male, HE was the one ruled by his emotions, and not a lick of reason. Then there's you, going on about the bloodline, and the documentary playing games of pretend about something. I just thought it was kinda funny. Like...what? XD

    • @dlmytrx
      @dlmytrx 3 роки тому +5

      When I first read it I thought "women were controlled by emoticons not reason" 💀💀

    • @jocelyncooper1738
      @jocelyncooper1738 2 роки тому +15

      If anyone in the Tudor dynasty was ruled by their emotions it was him.

    • @ThinWhiteAxe
      @ThinWhiteAxe 7 місяців тому

      Tbf it's widely speculated that his head injury played a role in his temperamental instability

  • @paulineabeja3943
    @paulineabeja3943 4 роки тому +433

    "Together, the two sisters rode together into London." 😩 Must have been beautiful to watch

    • @eliana2522
      @eliana2522 4 роки тому +43

      This is one of the times I wish I could time travel

  • @ianmacdonald9932
    @ianmacdonald9932 4 роки тому +2737

    Some of the pictures used here are of Mary Queen of Scotts not Mary Tudor!

    • @sirenofthesea7802
      @sirenofthesea7802 4 роки тому +61

      Good catch!

    • @swilson5320
      @swilson5320 4 роки тому +220

      This would explain why I confuse the two stories often. I think it’s done all the time.

    • @tonimp4317
      @tonimp4317 4 роки тому +177

      Thank you! That's why I grew up thinking there were the same person for so long! Mary Stuart has her own interesting storyline and should never be confused for Mary Tudor.

    • @alexandralugo1743
      @alexandralugo1743 4 роки тому +16

      I had to rewind a few times because of this.

    • @Katyob7
      @Katyob7 4 роки тому +74

      100% thought Mary was Mary queen of Scots 😬😬😬😬

  • @littleshy550
    @littleshy550 3 роки тому +382

    I always hated history in school but I find myself as I get older watching more and more history and loving it lol 😆

    • @youdontknowme5810
      @youdontknowme5810 3 роки тому +38

      that's probably because in school we feel forced to learn those and some teacher also didn't even try to make it sound exciting

    • @littleshy550
      @littleshy550 3 роки тому +15

      @@youdontknowme5810 true, they didn't make it interesting to learn and also being young I wasn't to focused on learning history

    • @poptart8310
      @poptart8310 3 роки тому +2

      Same here.

    • @n3493
      @n3493 2 роки тому +12

      Because we were too young, forced to get up early, to go to a place we didn't want to. Now we can choose what to listen and what to watch from home, whenever we want.

    • @WEFAbender6
      @WEFAbender6 2 роки тому +6

      Cuz we were graded for our knowledge and felt pressure. Now it’s just ooh i know a thing

  • @UranijaZeus
    @UranijaZeus 4 роки тому +868

    Katherine of Aragon was such a brilliant woman, it's a shame how she ended.

    • @АнджелинаЭнджи
      @АнджелинаЭнджи 3 роки тому +40

      Anne Boleyn too

    • @pkmntrainergg77
      @pkmntrainergg77 3 роки тому +39

      Raised by her mother, Queen Isabella of Castile. Same as Anne Boleyn too in her own right. I'm sad how both ended.

    • @eavyeavy2864
      @eavyeavy2864 3 роки тому +1

      Tolkien did her justice

    • @sailorsaturn3292
      @sailorsaturn3292 3 роки тому +6

      @@eavyeavy2864 what did he do

    • @oks2551
      @oks2551 2 роки тому +6

      Katherine of Aragon was proud not brillant. Eleanor of Aquitaine, who came before her, accepted a divorce from the king of France because she could not produce an heir. Katherine could have made the lives of the English people and her daughter easier if she just let Henry’s divorce happen.

  • @latosharenee707
    @latosharenee707 4 роки тому +2824

    Henry was the definition of the worse father ever!!

    • @joekerr9197
      @joekerr9197 4 роки тому +170

      More than that...he was a definition of a tyrant.

    • @montrelouisebohon-harris7023
      @montrelouisebohon-harris7023 4 роки тому +94

      That's why I couldn't even get through the first part of the Tudors because I didn't like Henry and the Netflix show was all about Henry having sex and it disgusted me

    • @fwromel
      @fwromel 4 роки тому +65

      and husband

    • @GeraltofRizziaa
      @GeraltofRizziaa 4 роки тому +64

      I have done literally nothing wrong.

    • @clifftrainor6774
      @clifftrainor6774 4 роки тому +23

      Henry the Muthafuckin Eighth - it's cool, Hank. You started the English Navy which became the most powerful in the world!

  • @monmothma3358
    @monmothma3358 3 роки тому +138

    Imagine getting cancer, only you don't know because there's no way of finding out, and then it's taken for pregnancy.
    You think it's something joyous, when it's really a mortal disease. When the pregnancy is revealed to be false, you are not only left with humiliation and isolation, but enormous physical pain of something you still don't know what is, and have no idea how to treat.
    It would have to be the worst of all.

    • @tankgirl6446
      @tankgirl6446 5 місяців тому

      Imagine all the REAL pregnant woman, husbands & children she murdered

    • @monmothma3358
      @monmothma3358 5 місяців тому +1

      @@tankgirl6446 As if were a competition. Look, there can never be too much empathy. Less suffering for Mary may even have meant less suffering for those people, as she wouldn't have felt the need to cling to her faith in such an extreme way.
      Traumatized people don't always end up nice. Check out any villain origin story.

  • @Bloombaby99
    @Bloombaby99 4 роки тому +279

    It doesn't surprise me that Mary became "Bloody Mary". Her grandmother was a warrior queen before the term was thought of and she was a monarch in her own right which was unusual at that time. Catherine of Aragon used her religion as her source of support whereas Isabella I of Castille had no problem using violence if necessary to prove her point. Both of these women were inspirational and pivotal in Mary's life.

  • @cierakitty
    @cierakitty 4 роки тому +568

    I always felt sorry for Lady Jane Grey. Yesterday just a cousin, next day....you are named as heir....wow. She was never officially crowned, having the title for just 9 days and then was killed.

    • @valr1260
      @valr1260 4 роки тому +18

      There’s a good documentary on LJG that explores this more.

    • @nassauguy48
      @nassauguy48 4 роки тому +63

      People forget that Mary pardoned her, and it was only because the Greys supported Wyatt's Rebellion in 1554 that Mary was literally forced to order the execution of Jane, as she continued to be the rallying point for the Protestants. Let us be honest, Elizabeth was cold and calculating, and she would NEVER have given Jane or anyone else a second chance.

    • @vickiezaccardo1711
      @vickiezaccardo1711 3 роки тому +2

      I had a moment of confusion mixing- up Jane Seymor and Jane Grey

    • @milliemino8424
      @milliemino8424 3 роки тому +8

      Right? Jane was by most accounts just a political pawn. Even Mary didn't want to execute her.

    • @Vi0Leyteen
      @Vi0Leyteen 3 роки тому +3

      @@vickiezaccardo1711 I am more confused because every queen is either an Elizabeth or Mary...Queen Mary here is different from Queen Mary of Scot. Thought it was the same

  • @nihilisticbarbie
    @nihilisticbarbie 2 роки тому +58

    And we've recently lost queen Elizabeth II. I was always fascinated by the Tudor sisters, and loved reading about the life of Elizabeth I. What a privilege it was to witness a queen of England who's authority wasn't questioned and who was also named after my favorite queen 🤍

  • @fatmabahri1315
    @fatmabahri1315 4 роки тому +435

    I have always thought Mary was an obedient, powerless woman, But, This documentary depicted her inner strength, grit, and determination, which is true power.
    Thank you for sharing it!

    • @ayjamay
      @ayjamay 4 роки тому +1

      Abc Xyz Baptist?

    • @fatmabahri1315
      @fatmabahri1315 4 роки тому +10

      Abc Xyz yes, it’s a fact that she did so. But I am referring to the context of a 16th century woman who was strong enough to claim her right to the throne.

    • @denisfl04
      @denisfl04 4 роки тому +9

      Abc Xyz she was a Christian who believed her denomination of Christianity was greater and wanted to restore her country to her former glory.

    • @geoffreymorelos6554
      @geoffreymorelos6554 4 роки тому +1

      @Abc Xyz Mary I"Bloody Mary" was a Roman Catholic not pagan

    • @geoffreymorelos6554
      @geoffreymorelos6554 4 роки тому +2

      @Abc Xyz there's a big difference from Catholic and Pagan religion

  • @marcomanino8884
    @marcomanino8884 4 роки тому +1257

    Elizabeth the first. Victoria. Elizabeth the II. England does well under a Queens rule.

    • @tijanaself897
      @tijanaself897 4 роки тому +34

      the brexit begs to differ lol

    • @SuperTweezy5
      @SuperTweezy5 4 роки тому +184

      @@tijanaself897 I'd guess Brexit has more to do with the elected officials than the crown.

    • @marytyrone9020
      @marytyrone9020 4 роки тому +53

      What about Queen Mary II of England, Scotland and Ireland and Queen Anne of Great Britain?

    • @PaulaJoW
      @PaulaJoW 4 роки тому +6

      This bodes well for Elizabeth Warren in the U.S. hahaha

    • @SeymoreTheDisappointed
      @SeymoreTheDisappointed 4 роки тому +6

      What about Elizabeth the II dad, why does everyone forget about him

  • @lynlynadang1685
    @lynlynadang1685 3 роки тому +136

    When Mary decided not kill Elizabeth, it made me feel happy despite of what happened. I feel pity for the both of them.

    • @carinafourie9119
      @carinafourie9119 Рік тому +4

      Elizabeth wasn’t as merciful to Mary QOS

    • @scottievaldez4194
      @scottievaldez4194 Рік тому +3

      @@carinafourie9119 This is so true. Sucks that Mary didn’t execute Elizabeth

    • @heatherwaetzig2633
      @heatherwaetzig2633 Рік тому

      @@carinafourie9119 Oh please Mary I had Jane Grey killed in about 8 months July 1553-February 1554. She was far less merciful towards poor Jane Grey and Guildford and Henry Grey Jane's father than Elizabeth was to Mary Queen of Scots. Who was held in comfortable palaces for 20 years before Elizabeth reluctantly signed her death warrant. MQOS was plotting to kill Elizabeth and take her throne. Was Jane plotting to kill Mary in Wyatt's Rebellion? No both Jane and Elizabeth for that matter were innocent of trying to kill Mary. Elizabeth more so than Jane. There's no evidence Elizabeth ever plotted against her sister that's why Mary didn't/couldn't execute her. Jane reluctantly agreed to take the Crown from Mary but even she never tried to murder her cousin. There's a big difference between the Mary-Elizabeth, Mary-Jane and Elizabeth-MQOS situations. Jane also wasn't as big of a threat to Mary as MQOS was to Elizabeth.

    • @heatherwaetzig2633
      @heatherwaetzig2633 Рік тому +6

      @@scottievaldez4194 Wow this is just plain hateful. Mary had no grounds to murder her own sister because she was innocent of any wrongdoing. A relationship between two sisters who were raised together is very different than the relationship between two cousins who have never met each other. Mary I had Jane Grey her own cousin killed within months of taking the throne. Mary Queen of Scots was actively seeking Elizabeth's throne, proclaiming herself Queen of England for years and trying to assassinate her. We have this in her own writing! Elizabeth waited 20 years to put her on trial and execute her. MQOS was a much bigger threat than Jane Grey was. Also, Mary I would have also killed MQOS if she had been in Elizabeth's position.

    • @scottievaldez4194
      @scottievaldez4194 11 місяців тому

      @@heatherwaetzig2633 Elizabeth wasn’t Mary’s sister that was her cousin. Mary was the rightful heir to the throne. You need to listen to things you research on. Elizabeth was a bastard not legitimate to the throne dummy.

  • @susannestein3955
    @susannestein3955 4 роки тому +604

    Amazing how Henry VIII used the Bible to suit his own wishes and get his way. If he had such a problem with marrying his brothers widow, then he never should have married her in the first place. But they actually were happily married and if she had given him a son or sons, this never would have happened. He would not have cared that she was married to his brother, only that he got a son.

    • @clare5one
      @clare5one 4 роки тому +11

      Henry VIII Received a Papal dispensation to marry Katherine of Aragon. A number of years later when their sons did not survive, Henry wanted a reversal just like that???

    • @ambermellett3213
      @ambermellett3213 4 роки тому +48

      No different then today with how people of influence or power twist the religion and law to suit their own agenda!

    • @clare5one
      @clare5one 4 роки тому +8

      @@ambermellett3213 Exactly. Most certainly the law.

    • @montrelouisebohon-harris7023
      @montrelouisebohon-harris7023 4 роки тому +25

      He was a selfish and arrogant sex-addicted King

    • @fatmabahri1315
      @fatmabahri1315 4 роки тому +8

      His attitudes were extremely egoic, in my opinion.

  • @patricialong5767
    @patricialong5767 4 роки тому +493

    What a convoluted mess Henry made of these poor women't lives! :(

    • @empressqi1722
      @empressqi1722 4 роки тому +15

      @David Ortiz Yes and a man in the middle of it all was a pure angel.. gtfo

  • @dontgetjazzywithit
    @dontgetjazzywithit 3 роки тому +497

    Henry’s excuse was it was “incest” I- THATS THE ENTIRETY OF ROYALTY

  • @nicky9441
    @nicky9441 4 роки тому +1014

    I can never have hatred towards Mary...that poor thing went through hell and back.
    Even Elizabeth was treated poorly and I can't fault her either. What they both did was based on how they were raised and how much religion really impacted those days.
    But honestly, I have more sympathy towards Mary...she really did get a shitty upbringing and was definitely treated worse...especially when it came to her poor mother.

    • @ahavacitrus4897
      @ahavacitrus4897 4 роки тому +81

      @Nicky F
      I wouldn't say that either Mary or Elizabeth had a shittier childhood ! They both were treated bad in different ways.

    • @ahavacitrus4897
      @ahavacitrus4897 4 роки тому +78

      And Elizabeths mother was beheaded, when she was a child! Thats curel too !
      As much as i respect Catherine, that's just horrible.
      I see your point and i think Mary was treated worse by their father. But both had a tragic life.

    • @PeytonWA0513
      @PeytonWA0513 4 роки тому +108

      @@ahavacitrus4897 They both had bad childhoods but Mary really got the shit end of the stick. She suffered from endometriosis, depression and her mother being cast aside and thrown out of court. She went from being the favorite child and had the love of her father to him forcing her to be declared illegitimate and marrying a new woman, having a new child, and banning her from seeing her mother. On top of all that he cast out her religion which was one of the only comforts she really had left. She was forgotten and humiliated and treated horribly.

    • @oo-vh2fo
      @oo-vh2fo 4 роки тому +63

      True! And when Anne Boleyn was alive and married to Henry she used to call Mary a bastard when ever Mary used to say that she is the right full princess of England , I really hate Anne maybe she was smart but definitely not a good person

    • @passingby7943
      @passingby7943 4 роки тому +22

      @kacangbumbu987 Where you er is the fact that Elizabeth had a role model. Elizabeth had the time to see Mary's reign and what worked and what wouldn't. People fail to note the good Mary did while she was alive. There is no justice in comparing the two sisters. Haven't the comparisons made to them during their own times done enough harm? Shall we cotinue it in further generations and never let the two sisters rest in peace?

  • @iceadonis6340
    @iceadonis6340 4 роки тому +1328

    Elizabeth was successful because she didn't get married...

    • @montrelouisebohon-harris7023
      @montrelouisebohon-harris7023 4 роки тому +53

      AMEN!!!

    • @montrelouisebohon-harris7023
      @montrelouisebohon-harris7023 4 роки тому +66

      I was married for 10 and a half years when I was 19 until I was 30 years old and I have not ever remarried and I'm 52 now

    • @annaschmitz6612
      @annaschmitz6612 4 роки тому +17

      @Lenin Lives Queen Elizabeth II was married before she became queen..

    • @annaschmitz6612
      @annaschmitz6612 4 роки тому +14

      Lenin Lives Murdered in a basement? Men, women, and children? Really? That’s a little... much.

    • @patbyrnes3825
      @patbyrnes3825 4 роки тому +119

      Elizabeth did not get married because she did not trust men. Just look who was her father.

  • @SocialStudiess
    @SocialStudiess 3 роки тому +24

    As a person who's grown up in America but ancestors have nothing to do with western history (Eritrea, Africa). I absolutely love English history. I've wanted to be a U.S history teacher for most of my adult life because of how much English history got my attention.
    Most of this interest stems from the Tudor dynasty. This family forced me to learn more about the war of the Roses and even before that. This video was wonderful and not boring at all.
    Ultimately I decided to become a geography teacher because as much as I love English and American history. My own roots stem from another hemisphere of thr world. That's a tribute to geography. Thank you for this great video. Onto the Edward video next!
    P.S
    I got to visit England and Scotland when I was 17 (am in my thirties now). Scotland looks a lot like my home state of Portland, Oregon (the green).
    Scotish people eat something that Eritrean's eat (mostly on Easter) but is prepared and have different names. The Scot's eat haggis. Haggis is called doolet (do-let) in Eritrea. One of the rare times I've seen a commonality with Eritrea and anything western European culture. Cheers 🇺🇲🇪🇷🇬🇧

    • @Alejojojo6
      @Alejojojo6 Рік тому +2

      Haggis is something very common (although prepared different ways) in most of Europe. In Spain for example you have Morcilla which is very similar to Haggis but with Rice inside. Also there's no issue. You can love Chinese History, Japanese History, Russian History, etc. even if you are from a place with no connections there whatsoever.

  • @misscriss80
    @misscriss80 4 роки тому +684

    Mary had a horrible life! Poor lady.

    • @Lauren.E.O
      @Lauren.E.O 4 роки тому +63

      People like to think ancient royals had perfect lives, but many of them had AWFUL lives.
      Granted, it was worse to be a peasant or someone who displeased them, but none of those woman were Disney Princesses.

    • @nellie3184
      @nellie3184 4 роки тому +13

      @@peggyliz9381 Mary felt bad for some of the people who she executed but that guy didn't felt bad.

    • @donnaauten6888
      @donnaauten6888 4 роки тому +10

      Not as horrible as the people she had burned at the stake.

    • @davidmolinamarquez4273
      @davidmolinamarquez4273 4 роки тому

      SE LO MERECIO POR FANATICA RELIGIOSA E INTOLERANTE

    • @amylh322
      @amylh322 4 роки тому +6

      Someone accused her Father of "going on a wife killing spree"
      If anyone in that family went on a killing spree? It was Mary. Today we would not say "Poor Whatsername". But Charlize Theron would get an Oscar for playing her in the movie.
      Mary had Catholics killed for not holding "the host" (or as non Catholics say, the Communion wafer) at the exact correct angle.
      There is nothing sane about that. She was a perfect example of why people fled religious persecution . It really started with her and should IMHO be a part of American History.

  • @MommyZeee
    @MommyZeee 4 роки тому +264

    Imagine being part of court in these times and seeing everything happen. For some reason I’ve been so obsessed with these two queens and how their lives played out and to see how they reigned it’s just fascinating!

    • @pessimiistme8544
      @pessimiistme8544 3 роки тому +2

      Some people really have a death wish lmao

    • @RinLockhart
      @RinLockhart 2 роки тому +1

      It was very dangerous being at court at that time.

    • @dtschuor459
      @dtschuor459 2 роки тому

      Mary’s life was so mostly tragic, it is a shame she doesn’t get a better nickname 💜

    • @CocoaPuff01
      @CocoaPuff01 Рік тому

      It's all fairytales

  • @eunicenagoya4018
    @eunicenagoya4018 3 роки тому +31

    As a teacher, I have watched plenty of videos on the topic. However, only few of them have actually made me feel curious, interested enough, as to share them with my students. This one is, by far, the one that I have enjoyed the most. Thank you so much!

  • @lessthanamillionsubscommun5845
    @lessthanamillionsubscommun5845 4 роки тому +1540

    “Mary summoned her sister to court to witness the birth.”
    Me: aww! That cute, she wants her sister to meet her niece/nephew!!
    “Elizabeth would not be next in the line of succession. Everything is going Mary’s way.”
    Me: Oh.. right.

    • @Portlandporkpies
      @Portlandporkpies 3 роки тому +12

      @@amazinggracemessenger3435 ayo you good

    • @amazinggracemessenger3435
      @amazinggracemessenger3435 3 роки тому +4

      @@Portlandporkpies yes I'm good ☺️

    • @idathuesen5740
      @idathuesen5740 3 роки тому +6

      @@amazinggracemessenger3435 I'm guessing you're an american xD

    • @amazinggracemessenger3435
      @amazinggracemessenger3435 3 роки тому

      @@idathuesen5740 don't know what that is xD

    • @robinhackbarth8640
      @robinhackbarth8640 3 роки тому +8

      @@idathuesen5740 I'm reading the reply from Amazing Grace Messenger, please don't think that all Americans think that way. Very few of us, as Americans and Evangelical Christians, are that eccentric. If you look-up "out in left field"

  • @yerren6861
    @yerren6861 4 роки тому +918

    If Mary had a child we would've had a different course of history.

    • @Alejojojo6
      @Alejojojo6 4 роки тому +157

      Not only that. If the son of Catherine of Aragon, Henry, the brother of Mary, had lived more than 52 days (almost 2 months) none of this would have happened.

    • @alynquirino385
      @alynquirino385 3 роки тому +18

      Mary did have a child.

    • @rjjacob101
      @rjjacob101 3 роки тому +49

      @@Alejojojo6 Yep, Henry's reason for breaking away from the Catholic Church all stemmed from his inability to secure a legitimate male heir. At heart, Henry was always Catholic.

    • @savagedarksider5934
      @savagedarksider5934 3 роки тому +16

      @@rjjacob101 Mary did have A son England would've been incorporated into the Habsburgs empire.

    • @alynquirino385
      @alynquirino385 3 роки тому +2

      @@asideclaro I swear she did search it up

  • @jayfelandigan2346
    @jayfelandigan2346 3 роки тому +40

    Though I'm not British, but I'm always fascinated by their history. All the love from 🇵🇭♥️🇬🇧

  • @milk_chocolxte
    @milk_chocolxte 4 роки тому +1878

    Lowkey know more about England’s history than my own country’s language lmao

    • @noyes6645
      @noyes6645 4 роки тому +29

      It’s because there’s so much of it!! LOL

    • @ChisumRDR
      @ChisumRDR 4 роки тому +16

      I felt this hard 😂❤️

    • @celinag1252
      @celinag1252 4 роки тому +1

      Samee haha

    • @ineedabadbleep1557
      @ineedabadbleep1557 4 роки тому +1

      same

    • @Angel12068
      @Angel12068 4 роки тому +17

      I know America's and England's history more then i know of mine XD

  • @msprettykawaii950
    @msprettykawaii950 4 роки тому +158

    God Taught the King a lesson. You dumped your wife just because she cant give you a son. God wants you to realize that women are also loved by God. If you dont love your wife everything falls apart

  • @irishmaedantes1772
    @irishmaedantes1772 Рік тому +7

    I can't believe I'm just watching this now. I love the perspective historians gave to the sisters. A balanced view of both competition and dynamic. It showed Mary in a much more different light that what people commonly knows her for.

  • @bigman7856
    @bigman7856 4 роки тому +202

    What we call Bloody Mary could’ve easily been celebrated as Europe’s strongest and most inspiring queens if she had a similarly long reign. Mary, upon the death of her brother, rode on horseback for more than 70 miles to escape imprisonments by Lord Northumberland. She gave speeches that were similar power as her sisters. It was really a matter of the small issues that ultimately hurt Mary.

    • @mactrent5247
      @mactrent5247 3 роки тому +8

      Exactly and in my opinion, Mary and Catherine could have rallied all of the catholic countries the moment Henry started talking about leaving the church.

    • @Gobble_de_Goop
      @Gobble_de_Goop 3 роки тому +14

      Uhhh... the people burned at the stake during Mary's reign likely felt much differently.

    • @bigman7856
      @bigman7856 3 роки тому

      @@Gobble_de_Goop yeah they probably did

    • @twelfthlady847
      @twelfthlady847 3 роки тому +21

      @@Gobble_de_Goop The people executed in Elizabeth's reign would hold the same view of her too then, would they not? Soceity was structured differently back then, you can't judge any of them by expecting them to have behaved by our modern standards of morality. Understand their times and you will understand them.

    • @jocelyncooper1738
      @jocelyncooper1738 2 роки тому +8

      @@Gobble_de_Goop Henry VII and VIII, and Elizabeth I killed way more people. This is true even if you account for the length of their reigns. Elizabeth also had several close family members executed.

  • @caropapa
    @caropapa 3 роки тому +90

    How weird Marys husband was Philip her sister Elizabeth, the present Queen Elizabeth,s husband is Philip and her grandmother was Queen Mary, oh how the names go round in a circle

  • @dpraju06
    @dpraju06 4 роки тому +89

    It's sad to see that their father failed to recognize their potential and talents.

  • @mzcytin
    @mzcytin 4 роки тому +480

    I always SMH at the way Henry disposed of wives who didn't bear him sons while it was his own sperm that dictated the gender of his children. Henry had a severe case of girlie sperm.

    • @patbyrnes3825
      @patbyrnes3825 4 роки тому +19

      Henry VIII was a sneezy bucket.

    • @MorticiaAttoms
      @MorticiaAttoms 4 роки тому +25

      Technically it was just two of the 6 that he disposed of for that reason. Katherine Howard had an affair with one of Henry's groomsmen and he divorced Anne of Cleves because he didn't like her. Catherine Parr got lucky and outlived him

    • @mistyshadows7209
      @mistyshadows7209 4 роки тому +12

      That what he-(Henry) gets too for being such a dick too. (God cursed him with only daughters so that'll teach his fatass a lesson)

    • @liquidturtle
      @liquidturtle 4 роки тому +27

      @@MorticiaAttoms actually I learned that (maybe/probably) Boleyn was set up and Howard was sexually assaulted. Anna of Cleves, well, Henry thought it was funny to dress up as old English folktales and scare her, but she was German, didn't get it, and got mad at him, which is why he began hating everything about her. But yeah ur right.

    • @theraven6843
      @theraven6843 3 роки тому +6

      @@mistyshadows7209 what kind of a remark is that ? So we - females - are all punishments? Is that what you are saying? Didn’t study biology or common sense did you?

  • @sierralorraine7003
    @sierralorraine7003 3 роки тому +9

    I hated learning about this stuff in school but I couldn’t stop watching this

  • @sherryqualls8352
    @sherryqualls8352 4 роки тому +891

    Who's idea was it to use a known photo of Mary Queen of Scots when talking about Mary I of England...fact check people...fact check.

    • @montrelouisebohon-harris7023
      @montrelouisebohon-harris7023 4 роки тому +52

      I have no idea because Mary Queen of Scots was 6 ft tall and very beautiful and beguiling as well as a fabulous ruler. She was witty and could outmaneuver Queen Elizabeth but she didn't really want to be Queen of England and actually to us today she would have been 4th in line after Elizabeth.. Mary Queen of Scots was Queen of England consort until her husband died young and she remained Queen of Scotland from the time she was six days old until she died at 45 and then her son James became king of England Scotland and Ireland after Queen Elizabeth died because Queen Elizabeth did not leave any heirs to the throne and James would have been the next heir since his mom was gone.

    • @pintorpi333
      @pintorpi333 4 роки тому +2

      I'm confused.
      No, not about the part of who was whom. I have no horse in the race.
      My confusion is I had no idea that photography existed during this period (you did state "known photo"). Perhaps you mean known photo of a painting? "fact check people... fact check."

    • @sherryqualls8352
      @sherryqualls8352 4 роки тому +8

      @@pintorpi333 it was a photo of a portrait...how's that for fact checking assbite? Unless you're suggesting they had the original portrait in their possession for this video..in that case you're delusional.

    • @petithibou1891
      @petithibou1891 4 роки тому

      Sherry Qualls I know ! I Ve noticed as well

    • @annaschmitz6612
      @annaschmitz6612 4 роки тому +8

      @Kat Harper To be fair, Mary was brought up in France, she was a very French queen and did not know her people or her country. Mary didn't know that Lord Darnley was going to murder her trusted friend and secretary when she was six months pregnant, there was no way she could have. He was murdered right in front of her. There is also no evidence that supports the theory that Mary conspired with Lord Bothwell in any way to kill Darnley. She didn't know her people and she was doing the best she could with what she had at the time. She was also forced to marry Bothwell and was raped by him, resulting in twins, which she later miscarried while imprisoned in Loch Leven.

  • @ronnkenan1088
    @ronnkenan1088 4 роки тому +311

    Now this was the real 'Game of Thrones'.

    • @susanhavens8692
      @susanhavens8692 3 роки тому +32

      The author of Game of thrones, George RR Martin actually did base it on British history.

    • @kwatoniazakiyyahanderson8091
      @kwatoniazakiyyahanderson8091 3 роки тому +3

      Of course

    • @egumax
      @egumax 3 роки тому +7

      @@susanhavens8692 Not really. The based it on the french novel The Accursed Kings. He said so himself.

    • @flamboyante._
      @flamboyante._ 3 роки тому +13

      Game of thrones is based on the Two Roses War of England, a dynastic problem that came to England after the Hundred Years War between England and France

    • @edberns2420
      @edberns2420 3 роки тому

      15k kuno iya sweldo.para pang gasto nila sa balay

  • @beautyforashes2022
    @beautyforashes2022 3 роки тому +29

    Henry betrayed just about every single person that was ever close to him. Any and everyone he ever claimed to love he treated with cruelty and callousness. And when he was done with them, he then threw them away without a second thought, if it suited his purposes to do so.

    • @CelineNoyce
      @CelineNoyce 3 роки тому

      I have believed for a while he has some sort of brain damage from either a condition he had or a jousting accident. His behavior changed dramatically.

  • @savannah6057
    @savannah6057 4 роки тому +54

    The pictures of the queens & kings are truly astonishing. You can really feel the power through the images. Beautiful!

  • @amylh322
    @amylh322 4 роки тому +25

    I wish people would call Mary by her real name. People always ask me who she was, how she was related to anyone... first born of Henry VIII and Catherine of Aragon. Devout Catholic, had people killed for tiny "wrongs" but was a huge reason we have the United States.
    I remember sitting in my Tudor History class in Uni, thinking how much the Tudors had to do with people leaving England for Holland and eventually the British colonies in America. So they've always captured my imagination. Amazing how things that seem unconnected really are, and can have amazing results for future generations.

    • @ausendundeinenacht1
      @ausendundeinenacht1 2 роки тому

      'how much the Tudors had to do with people leaving England for Holland and eventually the British colonies in America.'Ever occurred to you THIS?
      PPL LEFT OPPRESSIVE CLASS RIDDEN UK FOR ,...WELL..FREEDOM
      a POTENTIALLY better LIFE

    • @yevgeniyaleshchenko849
      @yevgeniyaleshchenko849 6 місяців тому

      ​@@ausendundeinenacht1That's precisely what they were talking about, genius.

  • @purplexninjamom
    @purplexninjamom 4 роки тому +342

    6:01 "Right from a very, very early age, she was this pawn in a game of-"
    My head: "A Game of Thrones! Say it!" :D

  • @Rose-xy5pe
    @Rose-xy5pe 4 роки тому +101

    I honestly don't know which one of them I should pity the most. Both had their mothers taken from them at a young age, both were brought up by a father who gave them no love, both were forced to be parted from the men they did love, and both ended up making terrible mistakes.

    • @adamarisrosado3445
      @adamarisrosado3445 4 роки тому +8

      I mean yes life isn’t black and white we shouldn’t have to choose who to pity the most it was just unfortunate all around

    • @helentonkin3348
      @helentonkin3348 3 роки тому +11

      Both women ruled a world dominated by men. One mistake and they would die.

    • @tam6753
      @tam6753 2 роки тому

      I pity Mary the most because she has been branded as an evil bitch by history due to the massive propaganda campaigns aimed at undermining her reign.

  • @__foam
    @__foam 3 роки тому +8

    I wanted to learn more about Queen Mary and this documentary did not disappoint. Thank you so much! Subscribed.

  • @crypticmoth1618
    @crypticmoth1618 4 роки тому +552

    Me: * Researchs worst father in dictionary *
    *Picture of king Henry 8th: * pops up **
    Me: seems accurate

    • @crypticmoth1618
      @crypticmoth1618 4 роки тому +4

      @Lauzorry La Zorrita Really? I didn't think anyone would see my comment

    • @crypticmoth1618
      @crypticmoth1618 4 роки тому +3

      @Lauzorry La Zorrita I'm shook INTERNET HIGH FIVE 🙏

    • @eses5490
      @eses5490 4 роки тому +13

      He wasn’t winning “best husband” awards either lol

    • @GeraltofRizziaa
      @GeraltofRizziaa 4 роки тому +3

      I have done nothing wrong.

    • @crypticmoth1618
      @crypticmoth1618 4 роки тому +11

      @@GeraltofRizziaa Keep telling yourself that

  • @louisafiorino5624
    @louisafiorino5624 4 роки тому +330

    Did anyone catch the mistake in dates???? They said Catherine of Aragon turned 40 is 1625. She wasnt even alive in that century!!!

    • @monicapyle
      @monicapyle 4 роки тому +16

      Yeah I thought we were in the 1500's

    • @suziewheeler6530
      @suziewheeler6530 4 роки тому +15

      1530s was when Elizabeth was born...catherine died a couple of years later..elizabeth was monarch till 1604 I believe

    • @sasapaige9588
      @sasapaige9588 4 роки тому +11

      @@suziewheeler6530 Elizabeth was born in 1533 and died in 1603.

    • @suziewheeler6530
      @suziewheeler6530 4 роки тому +2

      Like I said...really close

    • @jessicaappleby6422
      @jessicaappleby6422 4 роки тому +4

      Thank you!!! I listened to it 4 times I thought I was crazy

  • @elipetri7042
    @elipetri7042 3 роки тому +3

    Wonderfully informative documentary. Well structured, no unneccessary dialogue or exaggerated details. Thanks for posting.

  • @awkwardvulture638
    @awkwardvulture638 4 роки тому +114

    Even though The Tudors is inaccurate in some ways, I appreciate how they depicted the relationship between Mary, Elizabeth and Edward. Of course they were all later divided over religion, but it would seem that they did still care for each other, as they never quite attempted to have each other killed.

    • @angelcarter6387
      @angelcarter6387 4 роки тому +13

      Actually that's not quite right. At least one point in Mary's reign Elizabeth was indicated in a major plot to assassinate Mary and the queen was borderline ready to sign her sister's warrant for her to be executed. The only thing that saved Elizabeth from her own death was that right before the execution of the other two men who had been convicted of the murder plot the two men recanted their stories of Elizabeth being involved at all. I'm guessing that they did so thinking that they would save Elizabeth and in turn another rebellion would have taken place and that one would have led to mary herself being executed and then Elizabeth would have been declared queen of England.

    • @awkwardvulture638
      @awkwardvulture638 4 роки тому +2

      @@angelcarter6387 Oh, I didn't consider that. Although I'm sure that the two must-have believed that there were plenty of nobles who wanted to make it seem like they were purposefully acting against each other.

  • @xoheartinohioxo
    @xoheartinohioxo 3 роки тому +16

    "Henry was already in love with the woman who would become his third wife, Jane Seymour."
    No, I don't think Henry was in love with her, nor do I think he was capable of actually loving anyone other than himself at that point. If I'm being honest, I think the only one of his wives that he may have ever truly loved was Catherine of Aragon. They met before he was ever king before he had the weight of the world on his shoulders in his mind, and I think he *may* have truly loved her.
    As much as I'm fascinated by Anne Boleyn, she's by far my favorite of the six wives and her story is what got me interested in all things Tudor, I don't believe Henry ever TRULY loved her. He was infatuated by her, he was obsessed with claiming her and making her his, but love? No, I don't think so. And I think it just got worse as he gathered wife after wife! The only reason he proclaimed Jane as his true wife, his favorite wife, is because she gave birth to his long-awaited male heir. Let's be real if she had given birth to a daughter and died still, or just never produced a male heir for him... She'd have been just another disappointment in his mind.

    • @savagedarksider5934
      @savagedarksider5934 3 роки тому +4

      No, he never love ANY of his wivies. Henry was infatuated with Catherine in which he confused with love. The only thing stopping him from beheading Katherine was her family.

    • @moondivine2288
      @moondivine2288 2 роки тому +1

      @@savagedarksider5934 Henry did love Catherine at first. That part is true. Don’t focus on how it ended but also focus on how it began.
      In the beginning Catherine’s dad and her father-in-law pushed her around. She had financial problems after she was widowed. And realistically there are some relationships that start off great and end up poorly.
      You are right that her family is what kept Henry from beheading Catherine. But that happened towards the end. Her father is also why she married Henry. Things would have been different if Catherine just said she slept with Arthur.

  • @donwatsonjr.3878
    @donwatsonjr.3878 4 роки тому +296

    At the end of the day, KARMA CAUGHT UP WITH HENRY VIII..

    • @stacypottin2907
      @stacypottin2907 4 роки тому +11

      That nigga long gone

    • @annbush1826
      @annbush1826 4 роки тому +13

      Karma, obesity. dropsy, greed

    • @krystawillis2606
      @krystawillis2606 4 роки тому +2

      As it always does

    • @danafoster806
      @danafoster806 3 роки тому

      That would be karma vaught up with tudor for killing the plantaganent king edward and prince richard

  • @anitarichmond8930
    @anitarichmond8930 4 роки тому +397

    I very much enjoyed this documentary ,I hadn't realized the King Henry didn't allow Mary to attend her mother's funeral?

    • @Bloombaby99
      @Bloombaby99 4 роки тому +28

      Yep, it's true.

    • @captenarii3938
      @captenarii3938 4 роки тому +29

      It was the saddest thing i've ever heard

    • @nasaraa6848
      @nasaraa6848 3 роки тому +4

      He truly was a cruel person

    • @vickiezaccardo1711
      @vickiezaccardo1711 3 роки тому +2

      Henry was a true expletive deleted. Have you ever watched the series the Tudors?

    • @PragatiPrerna_
      @PragatiPrerna_ 3 роки тому

      He was an asshole

  • @CelineNoyce
    @CelineNoyce 3 роки тому +21

    It makes me sad, particularly for Mary who is often forgotten as she was the first woman queen and also had a lot of the ideas that Elizabeth eventually adopted. But also makes me sad because they were fighting over religion... so weird now.

  • @aliciab.6849
    @aliciab.6849 4 роки тому +108

    Poor Jane. She really had no choice in the matters she was pushed into... and she got killed for her trouble.

  • @tahira8477
    @tahira8477 4 роки тому +145

    nobody :
    me in quarantine : *time to watch every documentary available on horrid Henry the VIII and his family*

  • @NaomiIsrael-go6gl
    @NaomiIsrael-go6gl 3 роки тому +21

    "He was thriving."
    Edward: 👁👄👁

  • @joshyishot
    @joshyishot 4 роки тому +283

    The narrator keeps saying 1625... wrong century honey.

    • @CalopsitaVanderbilt1911
      @CalopsitaVanderbilt1911 4 роки тому +29

      Joshua Pirro and pics of Mary Stuart, instead of Tudor.

    • @KIrbs-tm1ql
      @KIrbs-tm1ql 4 роки тому +11

      I wondered if anyone else caught that too. Smh

  • @allisonmarroquin7384
    @allisonmarroquin7384 4 роки тому +87

    I like that Elizabeth is spoken less while Mary is spoken more

    • @sydneyspaulding740
      @sydneyspaulding740 2 роки тому +2

      No true Elizabeth is spoken way more than Mary. And she was a way better ruler.

    • @cherylhulting1301
      @cherylhulting1301 9 місяців тому +1

      The world is not really short of biographies of Queen Elizabeth I. She's a consistently well documented and fascinating figure.

  • @tammydreamwriter2877
    @tammydreamwriter2877 3 роки тому +6

    I feel so bad for both the sisters, how different the world could have been different had they somehow been able to work together- both of them would’ve changed the world in ways far beyond what each of them could do by themselves. It would’ve been ultimate slap in Henry’s face to see both of his daughters working together on the throne of England.

  • @businessfinancecoach
    @businessfinancecoach 4 роки тому +152

    I love that ignorant statement about the "Burnings" --- Elizabeth burned DOUBLE the Catholics per year.. and these are historians, just regurgitating tutor history? bizarre

    • @clare5one
      @clare5one 4 роки тому +15

      Hatred of Catholics is not limited to the 16th C.

    • @phyhra1608
      @phyhra1608 4 роки тому +9

      They also got the proper placement of who was the first Queen (Lady Jane Gray) as well as some visuals wrong. It's quite painful to watch at moments.

    • @maple1212
      @maple1212 4 роки тому +35

      Mary killed hundreds of Protestants. Elizabeth thousands of Catholics

    • @annaschmitz6612
      @annaschmitz6612 4 роки тому +7

      @@phyhra1608 Mary I was the first queen in her own right because Jane was never officially crowned.

    • @Lauren.E.O
      @Lauren.E.O 4 роки тому +27

      History is written by the winners. Even they said Elizabeth did a lot to spin the story.

  • @gailcbull
    @gailcbull 4 роки тому +68

    I think what is always overlooked when people talk about Henry VIII's obsession with having male heir is his education. Henry was one of the first English Monarch's to receive a renaissance education which would've included the study the Anarchy - the first English civil war. When Henry I died, he named his daughter, Matilda, as his heir (side note: Matilda is sometime referred to as Empress Maude in the histories) . But her cousin, Stephen, along with many other male nobles refused to accept the rule of woman. It sparked off a civil war that ended in a truce. Matilda agreed to stand down her armies and let Stephen rule in peace as long he named her son, Henry (aka Henry II), as his heir. Henry VIII was well aware that if he left a female heir, the male nobles might not accept her rule and it might spark off another civil war. Fortunately, by the time of the Tudor period, the male nobles were willing to accept a female ruler.

  • @DBEdwards
    @DBEdwards 8 місяців тому +1

    Absolutely brilliant episode. Really beyond belief. I am indebted to your channel. Truly fantastic.

  • @Avatar610
    @Avatar610 4 роки тому +263

    Mary I is the "Rodney Dangefield" of English monarchs- no respect given to her, and that is most unfair. If anything she was the victim of a posthumous negative PR job by Elizabeth's court who vilified her as "Bloody Mary" while building up Elizabeth as "Gloriana" despite her killing more Catholics than Mary did Protestants. Poor Mary suffered a lot in her life AND IT WAS ALL DADDY'S FAULT! Henry VIII had a lot to answer for putting his eldest daughter's in misery after adolescence because she was loyal to her long-suffering mother! He didn't let her marry, banished her to distant cold castles for years at a time that ultimately wrecked both her looks and health over the years. If she had only raised an army against her father or fled to the Continent (and her Spanish relatives) maybe she could have had a happier existence. A Mary Tudor biopic is long overdue- ideal for Helen Mirren or Meryl Streep, with Daniel Craig as Philip and Emily Blunt as Elizabeth.

    • @BigMamaDaveX
      @BigMamaDaveX 4 роки тому +7

      😎 I'd watch that! 💌

    • @c.s.7266
      @c.s.7266 4 роки тому +2

      🤣

    • @Danielle-mg5lf
      @Danielle-mg5lf 4 роки тому +21

      Avatar610 Mary killed over three hundred by burning (which is one of the worst since it takes hours to die.) and some historians say she murdered Protestants by the thousands, and everyday there was a burning. She even burned a pregnant woman who gave birth while she was being burned at the stake...and the executioner threw the baby in the fire.

    • @Avatar610
      @Avatar610 4 роки тому +33

      Danielle and how many Catholics did ELIZABETH kill off? And let’s not forget her killing off her cousin Mary Stuart!

    • @marytyrone9020
      @marytyrone9020 4 роки тому +4

      Angelina Jolie as Mary and Saorsie Ronan as Elizabeth

  • @yourfellowarmy5212
    @yourfellowarmy5212 4 роки тому +202

    I felt like Mary was obsessed with restoring Catholisim she had forgotten what being a Catholic is.

    • @laurakelly3647
      @laurakelly3647 3 роки тому +1

      🤨

    • @elizabethcarpenter4313
      @elizabethcarpenter4313 3 роки тому +4

      No, she did not. She practiced The Faith throughout her entire life.

    • @universesavior554
      @universesavior554 3 роки тому +2

      Honestly based off her shitty life she was desperate

    • @twelfthlady847
      @twelfthlady847 3 роки тому +13

      She was the sort of Catholic that Catholicism back then taught her to be. Executing people for heresy was what the Catholic church did in those days, they sincerely thought they were doing God's work, saving souls, preventing evil etc..

    • @clairefordzetterstrom9973
      @clairefordzetterstrom9973 2 роки тому +1

      Maybe because of what happened in her past life

  • @Sky-de7oy
    @Sky-de7oy 3 роки тому +2

    these yt documentaries are 100x more interesting and entertaining than any history class i've ever had

  • @kyerradavis858
    @kyerradavis858 4 роки тому +110

    All the deaths could've been avoided if the people in charge would've let people believe in what they wanted to

    • @heatherhillman1
      @heatherhillman1 2 роки тому

      Sadly, that is still a source of conflict in many parts of the world. So much bloodshed in the name of religion. The battle between Mary and Edward has always perplexed me. Both Catholic and Protestant are Christian religions. It makes no sense to me for one to vilify the other.

    • @ausendundeinenacht1
      @ausendundeinenacht1 2 роки тому

      @@heatherhillman1 hI Heather
      Same even with the Sunnis and the Other Lot In Islam, whatever they are called Shiites
      Its all about MALES creating Dynasties

    • @cherylhulting1301
      @cherylhulting1301 9 місяців тому

      ​@@heatherhillman1It might not make sense on the surface. But there are meaningful differences in dogma and practice. Just the Protestant idea that intercessors weren't required in a person's relationship with God was quite a revolutionary thought, rejecting Catholic hierarchy. Then of course it also had a lot to do with power centers and alliances in Europe as well.
      It would be Queen Elizabeth I whose religious compromise that would bolster the Anglican Church and bring about peace regarding the question of religion in England, though she and her security state executed Catholics too. Elizabeth had different motivations than Mary. Mary was a true daughter of the Faith and removed whom she saw as heretics to return England to Catholicism. Elizabeth, though a principled Protestant, had mostly political reasons for removing Catholic rivals. She endured ongoing pressure from Phillip of Spain and Rome to undermine her rule.

  • @DonovanBeveridge5875
    @DonovanBeveridge5875 4 роки тому +118

    Behind every Man in history These is only every Single strong Woman behind them 🌹👑

    • @Mizelei2012
      @Mizelei2012 4 роки тому +10

      That statement makes no sense in this case. Mary the 1st was sort of her own agent and there was no woman behind her father; he married and divorced repeatedly.

  • @meganliu6274
    @meganliu6274 3 роки тому +10

    I'm very interested in English history and French history. I find it so fascinating and cool to learn abt other country's histories.

  • @Pieldenieve
    @Pieldenieve 4 роки тому +47

    33:08 The only reason they gave Mary the nickname of Bloody Mary because she was Catholic. Yet she spared the life of Elizabeth, and Elizabeth, on the other hand, killed Mary, Queen of Scots.

    • @TruthfullySpeaking2001
      @TruthfullySpeaking2001 4 роки тому +5

      Who was plotting on Elizabeth

    • @blacksheep9834
      @blacksheep9834 4 роки тому +4

      @@TruthfullySpeaking2001 who was lied to and kept hostage for almost 20 years.

    • @JeantheSecond
      @JeantheSecond 3 роки тому +4

      Elizabeth didn’t have a choice. She absolutely did not want to execute Mary of Scots, as that set a bad precedent for the execution of monarchs, but rebellions kept being formed around Mary, who was a willing participant. Elizabeth’s life and crown were in danger.

    • @krishnavyas313
      @krishnavyas313 2 роки тому +3

      It wasn't just elizabeth who killed her cousin, Mary tudor also killed her teenage cousin lady Jane grey.

  • @itzelruiz1659
    @itzelruiz1659 4 роки тому +320

    HOLD ON WHAT HAPPENED HERE

    • @WhyRush30
      @WhyRush30 4 роки тому +19

      Anne Boleyn 🤣

    • @hispanicsinthisbitch7623
      @hispanicsinthisbitch7623 4 роки тому +77

      you was killed sis that’s what happened 😭

    • @moo1545
      @moo1545 4 роки тому +58

      Don’t worry your daughter became a legend in history 👁👄👁

    • @zulyrivera3348
      @zulyrivera3348 4 роки тому +7

      For simple terms a lot

    • @Skyblaze137
      @Skyblaze137 4 роки тому +12

      Spoiler alert:🇨🇦🇺🇸🇦🇺🇿🇦

  • @topazgirl170
    @topazgirl170 2 роки тому +4

    Elizabeth's brilliance of mind really is underappreciated. She could speak and write over 6 languages by age 12. But a young Elizabeth Tudor was hard not to love - Brilliant, witty, thoughtful and rebellious(wearing her mother's initialed pendant for a family portrait at the age of 10 or 11). In 2019 a recently discovered translated manuscript(handwritten) The work is a translation of a book in which the Roman historian Tacitus at Lambeth Palace Library in London was written by Elizabeth I herself in the 1590s. In her lifetime, she had to be one of the most educated persons in England and definitely in Europe.

  • @meganpearl914
    @meganpearl914 4 роки тому +151

    You know who wouldn’t have several wives and put his children through hell? Arthur

    • @ipshita5147
      @ipshita5147 4 роки тому +11

      You never know. The Apple doesn't fall far from the tree.

    • @hellojello7545
      @hellojello7545 4 роки тому +14

      I wanna go back in time and save Arthur from dying istg-

    • @tingle2323
      @tingle2323 4 роки тому +5

      Ancient time was way too dark..

  • @maggiedeering9854
    @maggiedeering9854 4 роки тому +125

    “By his last wife Catherine Parr”
    *shows pic of Catherine Howard*

    • @annbush1826
      @annbush1826 4 роки тому +15

      British school learn this history of the 6 wiveseith the couplet
      “Divorced, beheaded, died.
      Divorced, beheaded, survived.”

    • @kenziejeager4454
      @kenziejeager4454 4 роки тому +1

      @@annbush1826 I learned this history I’m American

    • @MatsukawaYume
      @MatsukawaYume 4 роки тому +6

      @@annbush1826 I sang the divorce beheaded died part cause I heard Ex-wives by SIX to much ...

    • @dontmindme652
      @dontmindme652 3 роки тому

      @@annbush1826 I learnt from a certain musical

    • @_zoeyshaa_
      @_zoeyshaa_ 3 роки тому

      @@dontmindme652 SAMEE

  • @yatzipaula4571
    @yatzipaula4571 4 роки тому +5

    I'm not much of a history person but this kind of history I love to listen to so much. Something about the story of queens makes me intrigued

  • @terrybardy2848
    @terrybardy2848 4 роки тому +90

    I saw Katherine of Aragon's picture. She had blond hair and blue eyes. They portrayed her hair and eye color wrong. There are a lot of people from Spain who are light complected.

    • @Alejojojo6
      @Alejojojo6 4 роки тому +13

      Me being one of them and im not the only one. When Spanish people are depicted by foreigners they always do so in a stereotypical way... sad though.

    • @theraven6843
      @theraven6843 3 роки тому +1

      Have seen it too!

    • @pbohearn
      @pbohearn 3 роки тому +10

      Apparently she was a tiny lady, very sweet and very pious and very loved. She had very long reddish hair down her back. And Henry as a young man was a ginger stud; he was over 6 feet tall, much taller than most English at the time; quite the Renaissance man, he had a jovial position, and was a very competitive athlete. A good catch for the first 40 years of his life. But after that jousting injury that never healed fromxx he lived with constant pain of intermittent severity. that will affect your personality.

    • @theraven6843
      @theraven6843 3 роки тому +1

      @@pbohearn thank you.

  • @nathanfugate8210
    @nathanfugate8210 4 роки тому +28

    One error: when speaking of Elizabeth taking the throne, the narrator says her counselor was Robert Cecil. This is wrong. When she ascended, and through most of her reign, it was William Cecil. Robert was his son, who was trained by his father as his successor. Which he was, during Elizabeth's latter years.

    • @cherylhulting1301
      @cherylhulting1301 9 місяців тому

      Thank you. I noticed that and it bugged me. The younger Cecil was Elizabeth's counselor later in her reign. But it was his father, William Cecil, Lord Burleigh, who was the chief minister during her early and mid-reign. She relied on the elder Cecil so thoroughly that he more or less died in office.

  • @rayarena879
    @rayarena879 4 роки тому +20

    What an unnatural father, to put his daughter, Mary, through so much heartache. If we add to that the estimated 72,000 people that he executed including Sir Thomas More, he has to be England's worst tyrant.

    • @ausendundeinenacht1
      @ausendundeinenacht1 2 роки тому +2

      I think so, too, am always amazed though what UTTER FASCINATION PEOPLE SEEM TO RESERVE FOR THE TRULY UNDESERVING

  • @miaveranika30
    @miaveranika30 4 роки тому +171

    I thought their relationship is like Elsa and Anna... I'M WRONG.

    • @miaveranika30
      @miaveranika30 4 роки тому +2

      @Altoid Bazingá that why i am wrong :(

    • @monabohamad2242
      @monabohamad2242 4 роки тому

      @Altoid Bazingá true but still had the same dad and same younger half-brother who'd become sovereign before both/either one of his older half-sisters

    • @widiyaningsih8379
      @widiyaningsih8379 4 роки тому

      😄😄

    • @ΛευκοθεαΧριστοφακη
      @ΛευκοθεαΧριστοφακη 4 роки тому +14

      More like the female version of Thor and Loki

    • @savagedarksider5934
      @savagedarksider5934 3 роки тому +2

      @@ΛευκοθεαΧριστοφακη And Henry and Arthur is like Scar and Mufasa.

  • @kimberlyoliver200
    @kimberlyoliver200 4 роки тому +20

    This was awesome! The movies/books often paint Mary as a bitter inept queen! Though imperfect this really shed some light on her abilities and vision as a monarch! Thanks

  • @paigewhitfield3624
    @paigewhitfield3624 3 роки тому +10

    So, what I'm getting from this about Henry, is that in the beginning he actually was an okay dude. But, his fanatical obsession for a son drove him to madness and hardened his heart to be cruel...kinda sad when you think about it.

    • @princesskayla1400
      @princesskayla1400 3 роки тому +2

      If only Mary had been a boy things would’ve been so much different and a slightly possibility the Tudor line might still be here..?

    • @paigewhitfield3624
      @paigewhitfield3624 3 роки тому +1

      @@princesskayla1400 Scandalous

    • @heatherhillman1
      @heatherhillman1 2 роки тому +2

      He also suffered a fall from his horse during a jousting match and was unconscious for several hours. That likely caused a traumatic brain injury, which often lead to personality changes. It's possible that he became cruel after that accident.

  • @thebeanbagmoth6518
    @thebeanbagmoth6518 4 роки тому +165

    If Edward wanted to have a Protestant successor, why didn’t he appoint Elizabeth?

    • @HallsofAsgard96
      @HallsofAsgard96 4 роки тому +55

      One possible reason is that his advisors thought that Elizabeth was far too intelligent to b controlled. Another if 1 sister is to deprived of the throne so must the other. He probably thought if Elizabeth died w/o heirs, mary's heirs wld take it and they wld undoubtly be Catholic

    • @Alex-hr1ue
      @Alex-hr1ue 4 роки тому +34

      He tried to take mary out the succession on the fact that she was a bastard and at the time so was elizabeth so it was either both or not at all

    • @thebeanbagmoth6518
      @thebeanbagmoth6518 4 роки тому +4

      Thank you guys

    • @fairy3560
      @fairy3560 4 роки тому +2

      No elizabeth declared as illegitimate .

    • @HallsofAsgard96
      @HallsofAsgard96 4 роки тому +7

      @@fairy3560 But Henry had also restored Elizabeth & Mary as heirs of the throne in the Act of Succession which had been passed by Parliament.

  • @Mochalolo1928
    @Mochalolo1928 4 роки тому +65

    I feel so bad for Mary!! She was just doing what was placed in front of her, and people only remember the burnings. The burnings are horrible and shouldn’t have been done, but if we’re all talking about that, her greatness falls to the side. She was in uncharted territory ☹️

    • @denisedoumbia1691
      @denisedoumbia1691 4 роки тому +1

      Preach

    • @Jack-yf9bc
      @Jack-yf9bc 4 роки тому +2

      Mochalolo1928 as someone whose ancestors were killed by Mary I, even I agree. She thought she was saving their souls.

    • @hornybodhisattva
      @hornybodhisattva 3 роки тому +1

      Absolutely 💅💅💅👏👏

    • @chesiregirl
      @chesiregirl 2 роки тому +3

      It always makes me angry how people hold up the burnings as a sign that Mary was a poor ruler, when she was absolutely NOT the only one executing people - every Tudor monarch had a LOT of blood on their hands (and that's not even mentioning all the other English monarchs, such as Richard III who likely had his nephews killed to strengthen his own claim to the throne) - Henry VII, Henry VIII, Edward VI (despite the fact that his reign was also quite short and he was a minority king the entire time), and yes, even Elizabeth, who ordered the death of her cousin Mary, Queen of Scots (not to be confused with Elizabeth's sister, the Queen Mary discussed in this video). I mean, Mary's own father ordered the death of more people than I can count - most famously being his own innocent second wife and five equally innocent men in his quest to produce a male heir. Henry VIII even ordered heretics to be burned at the stake just like Mary later would! Yet no one adds the "Bloody" epithet to him, his father, or his other two ruling children. Only Mary. People will call Mary a poor ruler for burning heretics, then turn right around and laud Elizabeth I as the greatest ruler in the history of England. I guarantee, if Mary had been able to produce an heir, or had been on the throne longer, history would've looked far more fondly on her.

    • @Mochalolo1928
      @Mochalolo1928 2 роки тому

      @@chesiregirl excellent points!!!!

  • @jakobfredriksson2272
    @jakobfredriksson2272 2 роки тому +10

    Feels wrong to write "Poor Mary" - after all, the "bloody" part in her nickname isn't taken out from thin air, but such agony... The amount of mentally and physically pain she endured during her short life makes my skin crawl.

  • @Z.O.1991
    @Z.O.1991 4 роки тому +39

    I wonder this theory: maybe the reason why Elizabeth didn't marry and have a family is because she viewed her bloodline as a curse. That they go mad after a certain amount of time, and she decided to end her bloodline

    • @patbyrnes3825
      @patbyrnes3825 4 роки тому +24

      I would not have children if Henry V111 was my father.

    • @Z.O.1991
      @Z.O.1991 4 роки тому +1

      @@patbyrnes3825 I agree

    • @lindahouston9331
      @lindahouston9331 4 роки тому +14

      It could have been that she saw what happened to her mother and Henry's many wives. That would have to leave a bad taste in your mouth!

    • @nreynolds75243
      @nreynolds75243 4 роки тому +16

      I think Queen Elizabeth saw getting married as a hindrance. She observed what her father had done to his wives. The issue her sister had with choosing the right mate being a Queen. Elizabeth had learned it was a headache. She did better alone.

    • @sophiacousland3452
      @sophiacousland3452 4 роки тому +11

      She refused to marry for two reasons.
      1: She saw what her father put her step mother’s through, and of course eventually learned what he did to her mother. She didn’t want to be faced with the same abuse.
      2: She was sexually abused as child by Catherine Parr’s new husband after the death of her father. It’s no wonder that she didn’t want anything to do with marriage after everything she saw and went through.

  • @omegatree7635
    @omegatree7635 4 роки тому +76

    It must have been so crazy to live during this time. “No your catholic, no your Protestant, lol, jk .”

  • @annabellegeluk3789
    @annabellegeluk3789 4 роки тому +7

    I feel so bad for Mary, it sounds like she truly believed in catholicism and the pressure was all on her to convert the nation back to it and keep it that way, by marrying the right man and producing an heir. And with the phantom pregnancy it must have felt so close to succeeding, I can't even imagine the dissappointment when it turned out she wasn't actually pregnant

  • @denisfl04
    @denisfl04 4 роки тому +150

    If only Arthur would have lived 😢

    • @Lara-jv1et
      @Lara-jv1et 4 роки тому +29

      I never thought about that, but it would definitely be mutch different, probably even better. Who knows?

    • @lucaslinares7806
      @lucaslinares7806 4 роки тому +18

      It would be a much different world!
      England would still be a Catholic nation. Perhaps America, Canada, Australia and New Zealand wouldn't speak English now.

    • @candicehoneycutt4318
      @candicehoneycutt4318 4 роки тому +10

      Lucas Linares They might not even exist, at least not in the way we know them.

    • @alcuardandclaudekickass6037
      @alcuardandclaudekickass6037 4 роки тому +12

      If that had happened, we never would have had Elizabeth...

    • @denisfl04
      @denisfl04 4 роки тому +7

      AlcuardAndClaude KickAss We would’ve never had Mary and she wouldn’t have had a terrible childhood.

  • @JoeSmith-il1pe
    @JoeSmith-il1pe 4 роки тому +35

    There’s an error at 6:23. Should be 1525 not 1625 when Catherine turned 40

  • @TimelessFacesAI
    @TimelessFacesAI Місяць тому

    Loved this! Such a powerful dive into the complex, turbulent lives of Mary and Elizabeth. It's fascinating to see how their relationship shaped English history.