>Insults literally everyone >Wonders why everyone dislikes her >Gets called on it >Deflects >Repeat ad infinitum Truly, Lily is an innovator in delusion
Oh Lily knows people dislike her but her delusional self keeps telling her audience is because they are “transphobic and racist” because it’s the only defense she has… She knows her intelligence will fail her in a real Debate so uses that when she has no comeback from people respectfully disagreeing with her and proving her takes factually incorrect.
We need everyone to be aware that what kickstarted Lily's copyright strike misuse was Sai calling her out on using the suicide of a trans teenager for her argument about why Steven Universe sucks. Nobody ever forget that. She's going on a censorship fueled tirade because she was rightfully scolded for using child's *death* as a point for why the show about *lesbian space rocks* is bad.
She flashed a picture of Layla Alcorn during one of her rants. I was watching Sai stream at the time and I was so thrown I got stuck in disgust for a bit but I am just filled with rage that lily would use her death to make a f×ucking cartoon argument 🙃
@@KelpieRider That had to have been why she struck Sai’s video, right? Cuz I can’t think of anything else other than her finally having this ugly thing she did revealed made her go on this whole tirade
a word of advice: DOCUMENT EVERYTHING, everything she says, every post of hers you think may be relevant, every character of text, and of course everything you say. The way people like lilly operate is by spewing lies to try and drown out the truth, but that also gives you a ton of evidence to nail lilly to wall in court if it comes to that.
@@lizmurray6975 - Then when someone posts the receipts she claims they’re fake because they’re not on her account. It’s crazy how she hates Trump so much yet acts a lot like him.
@@andrewk.7498 no, Lily is a she/her. She can be scum of the earth, but that doesn't mean you shouldn't hate the right way. Use proper pronouns when hating someone, kids❤
Oh she knows. Not too long ago, she took a potshot at their video in one of hers. Funny thing is, she tried to spin her rules thread as a joke. She reshared the thumbnail of their video and changed the title to 2 idiots take a joke thread too seriously. She’s really trying gaslight everyone now. If it was a joke, then why did she take it down and abandoned Twitter? Lol.
@@Fractorification yeah, if it was so obviously a joke, why did she make 100 entire tips? Most of them aren't exactly over the top jokey type either, and by number 100 the joke has definitely worn off.
This shows that Lily Orchard, much like her grifting companions in Fandom Menace, can dish it, but can't take the critique. If you can't take the heat, stay out of the kitchen (as they say).
Wait I thought Lily once said using Queer as a descriptive for... well queer people was using a slur and we should stop, but I'm pretty sure Stephanie uses that and is frankly one of the queerest queers to queer up this platform. That feels... wrong. You're dead on about the Digital Homicide thing 🤣
LilyOrchard is the type of person who just doesn't believe in anything. She'll espouse certain political ideals and has no shortage of bad faith criticisms for the beliefs of others, but her actions consistently show Lily really doesn't care about anything or anyone but Lily.
It’s been so painful to watch Lily turn herself into such a goon and disrespectful little monster. I really did enjoy her work and really believe in her… for whatever reason, there is just no competing with her true love: directionless, random anger. She likes to hurt people.
Oh, Lily's backed herself into a corner here. She's trying to intimidate her critics into silence while also lying about the content of those videos to her audience on Tumblr. If this escalates to legal battles, there's written evidence of her openly mischaracterizing the contents of other people's works to fit her narrative. because there's no way 3 streams that double the length of the original video will come off as "playing the pokemon video in silence" in a court of law. if she doubles down now there's no way she can make it through a lawsuit without perjuring herself along the way
bold of you to assume she's not lying about taking them to court. or just planning to do what trump does and lose on purpose to make herself look like a martyr
Its assumed by many people in the space that most -if not all- of Lily's anon tumblr asks are sock puppet accounts that she uses to send asks to herself.
I believe Anthony mentioned in one of his last streams that Lilly even leaked an avatar icon on her desktop during a stream that belongs to a Tumblr account that gushes over the coffin of andy and leyley. If that’s true, then she secretly loves the game while condemning it as incest trash on her main account. Given the allegations from her sister though, this may very well be the case.
Just to clarify Lily can’t scrounge up enough money to change her name OR enough to get her wife to come live with her, BUT she has enough to take someone to court…? Likely story, it ain’t gonna happen, I think everyone is safe here. Wishing u the best tho seriously.
Wait is that why she's just "Lily Orchard" now on YT? I saw her Steven Universe video a couple months back and the channel was named after her and I guess her wife, but now it's just her?
@@DJ_Pyrodox She changes her UA-cam channel on a whim, it's not because of that. She got Orchard from her ex from a long time ago whom she abused pretty harshly. Now she's married to Mikaila and she claims that she only took her name off the channel and changed it back to Lily Orchard because Mikaila has been "too busy" to contribute.
@@LunaMoth_Love Willing to bet that Mikaila cut her losses and left Lily after the allegations of what Lily did to her sister came to light a few months ago.
Your Pokemon videos were how I found out who Lily Orchard, and since then, I've gone down the Lily Orchard rabbit hole of how bad of a person she is. I hope everything works out in your favorite Anthony.
The furthest I went down the rabbit hole (outside of reading the comments on Anthony's streams and the 4h supercut) was watching a short portion of her video in which she criticized Arthas, stating how people blow his tragedy out of proportion _(there might be a grain of truth in there, but that's kind of the case with any popular character),_ how he was an asshole from the start and that this is mostly because he's a white man. I deleted the video from my watch history afterwards.
I knew about that "person" via Just a Robot, then this guy's pkmn video popped up. And from what I understand, that "person" is as bad as oniseeon and should be dealt with.
@@vetarlittorf1807"The Streisand effect is an unintended consequence of attempts to hide, remove, or censor information, where the effort instead increases public awareness of the information. The effect is named for American singer and actress Barbra Streisand, whose attorney's attempt in 2003 to suppress the publication of a photograph showing her clifftop residence in Malibu, taken to document coastal erosion in California, inadvertently drew far greater attention to the previously obscure photograph."-Wikipedia
@@vetarlittorf1807 A bit of internet history. Turns out that back in the day, the address to Barbara Streisand's house got leaked online, I'm talking like, very early 2000's when stuff like this was pretty rare. Thing is, even if it was online, you would still want to search for it to find the info, and, back then, the internet was a tool but not the behemoth that is today so few people knew or where aware of that information being available. Thing it, it would've been pretty fine if Barbara Streisand didn't make a press conference announcing how disgusted she was that her address was leaked online and to PLEASE NOT GOOGLE HER ADRESS BECAUSE IT'S OUT THERE AND YOU CAN EASILY FIND IT NOW IF YOU GOOGLE IT Well... Guess what search result was trending that week? So the Streisand effect refers to something that could go completely unnoticed if just left alone but that the involved parties can't stop bringing attention to it in a misguided attempt to stop you from taking notice of it. In this case, Lily's criticism would not be so bad if she didn't insist on replying, poke, point, link, reference and highlight each and every criticism made of her constantly and basically corroborating that everything said about her is true.
i keenly remember seeing a screenshot in an old callout for Lily Orchard which showed a quiplash game where Liky and her friends were making extremely detailed murder-torture fantasies towards Sarah Z Because Sarah Z had the thumbnail for Lily’s SU video in the video thumbnail of her video on Bad Media Critiques that didn’t even focus or name drop Lily Orchard directly aside from “here’s an picture of a super long and popular but kinda shallow media critique”.
Technically Sarah did briefly discuss Lily's video, but she only spent about 2 minutes talking about it. What pissed Lily off was a mistake Sarah made, where they claimed she accused Rebecca Sugar of designing a racist character. Lily did say that Sugar didn't design it, she just criticized them for putting it in an art book. Sarah apologized, but Lily still tries to claim she misrepresented her video on purpose.
@@allisoncarter5662 it definitely feels like Lily doesn't personally know how to actually apologize and so assumed anyone else who does so is just as fake as she is.
@@allisoncarter5662 I remember that video, actually. It's oft forgotten, but Sarah Z also pointed out her blind tirade/rant at Sugar about how n*zi-ish she was sounding. While Sarah Z should have included Lily verbally backspacing and saying all the things she just said she didn't really believe, Lily absolutely lost her shit at that in her response video. Pretty much blowing up, calling Sarah a liar, etc. It almost feels like Lily set that moment up to be taken out of context so she could be righteously angry at people who did. Because, you know, she goes on a longwinded rant directly attack Sugar and then quietly dismisses it immediately after. Like, the whole implication is "She's all these things, but I don't _think_ she's all these things."
Telling Lily to use common sense…No offense, Anthony…But when has common sense ever stopped Lily from doing…ANY of the awful stuff she’s done in her life??
IKR? Lily has no empathy, no common sense, is extremely selfish, doesn’t possess the ability to plan ahead, and reacts emotionally to everything. That’s liek a textbook symptoms of Narcissistic Personality Disorder.
@@CadDriftarus OK, but with the way the world is going, would we even notice? At this point, I think we'd all just be like "so that was Tuesday morning", and get on with our day.
josh Scorcher once tried to file a cease and desist on Lily because she was constantly slandering him in her videos. her response was her laughing it off, mocking his attempt and daring him to take her to court now that someone is doing it to her, she suddenly wants to use the system to silence people HMMMMMMMM very sus Lilian
She won't. Even if she loses the copyright claim battle with UA-cam or just takes them back, she’ll still see herself as the victim, and she needs to win.
I feel like before Lily could get away with her response to criticism precisely because it was largely transphobes attacking her for her identity, but the last few months have brought about a new chapter to Lily, these being critics of her that are like you and Sai, who don't attack her for her identity, but rather call her out for her frankly bad behavior and rather questionable media criticism. It seems like Lily has found herself scrambling to get a proper response without looking like the unreasonable person in the room, and this sort of damage control might mark the beginning of the end.
As someone who has had an eye on Lily since her "misadventures" in the MLP fandom oh so very long ago, Lily's critics have (for the most part) always been remarkably accepting of her identity. It's almost impressive how much hate she has garnered up without her gender as a factor.
Lily isn't even trans. It is the exact person who would pretend to be trans to prey on minors. Lily literally touch its own sister. I'm lgbt and I'm fine throwing lily to the wolves
-She hates Penny's storyline for "validating bullies" -Is a bully herself Oh she also said she's open to criticism in her Pokemon video but is striking people videos criticizing her lol
Oh please tell me she did NOT actually say that about Penny's story, because that would be a completely backwards interpretation of what the story is about. PLEASE.
@@SuperFloxes taken from the video itself: "I'm going to be honest I hate this one. The entire premise is just another the bullied has become the bullied and I f'king hate this trope so f'king much. That every character is the same and once you beat them they get all moody is even worse. And what really puts the stake through its heart is that it has five times more dialogue that it needs to. At the end of the day this is a story about a bullied girl believing she has become a villain and not once are we allowed to say no your f'king not. So yeah, f'k Starfall Street."
@@someguynamedtrevor6081- She does. Sees him as an emo sad boy with anger issues. She actually calls Gladion and Hunter from Owl House something similar which all boils down to the fact that these three are abusive victims who overcome their trauma from said abuse and move on with their lives ie basically doing what most of Orchard’s own abuse victims have done. Also no she doesn’t include Lillie because she’s a cute young babu (her word that she’s way too much) girl that Orchard adores greatly like she does with Nemona who’s another reason for the Penny hate because Penny dared to insult Nemona and no one gets away with insulting Orchard’s precious favorite character.
I remember that debacle with Lily using an artists work without crediting her and she made such a big stink about it that she mocked the # on twitter back then when folks called her out to respect the artist and lily replied EARN the respect it's all snark and bloated ego until shits done to her then Lily acts like she's the victim, where have i heard that before
She is straight up all hypocrite, that’s all she is. Stealing others content then being mad at others and SUING others for allegedly doing the same. Just one in a million cases of hypocrisy
If I'm doing the math correctly, it took you 11 hours and 25 minutes to review Lily's 6 hour and 24 minute Pokémon video. You nearly DOUBLED the length of her video through your commentary. And didn't you put her video on 1.25 or 1.5 speed? (Maybe that was me, lmao) Your streams definitely fall under transformative work. Copyright claiming them would be self destructive. It's also a pain. I send good vibes to you and I hope she doesn't start things.
Just an aside here: It's interesting and telling that while Lily technically genders Trixie the Golden Witch correctly in that initial Tumblr post, she refers to her by her very old, distinctly masculine handle. I feel like this is a pattern of sorts when put into the context of the strange contrast between her frequently rather puritanical social justice framing around her personal fiction dislikes and the crass, often creepy jokes she insists on making, as well as the frankly landlord-brained attitude towards copyright, where it's pretty clear that Lily never really stopped being the weird dirtbag edgelord that she was very early in her time in the public eye. Sure, she transitioned and started expressing nominally leftist views, but the core person is fairly static, and she only seems to stop herself from saying some wildly offensive shit because that wouldn't gel with the image she has of herself or wants to project to her audience.
Lily also likes using people's full legal names when she can in videos (she recently did this when she was addressing KP's video on her). Also not surprised she uses old usernames to misgender other trans people, considering she's had a habit of deadnaming people in the past.
It seems she's slightly transphobic in general. Not to herself, but to other. She constantly misgenders Stevonnie too. I think this, combined with the legal name stuff @notshardain mentioned, is primarily a control tactic.
I mentiones this on Sai's community post, but cant Lily get in trouble for filing too many copyright strikes in a short amount of time? I think its cuz it shows abuse of the system, but i worry im wrong
@@agramuglia unless she was scumbag smart and used her fans and multiple bot accounts to do it. Layers of obsfuscation and all that. She doesn't strike me as savy enough for the latter, but ya never know.
If team youtube finds the copyright strikes are done in malicious intent they can and will remove the channel that makes the copyright strikes.This happened with a channel named Smash Bandicoot recently where Smash made multiple copyright strikes against guys he had beef with(Cartoonshi,Chazzington...) which lead to them and their fans spreading awareness to the situation which lead to youtube removing the strikes and deleting Smash's main account and one of his alt account.
Problem is: there is actually a history of UA-cam just...ignoring this once UA-camrs call out the person in question If I may cite ye olde feud of ActMan vs Quantum TV - apparently that whole debacle reached Susan Wojicki herself and the official stance was "this looks like bullying, we don't ban people because UA-camrs tell us to", and Quantum actually never got punished for anything covered in ActMan's vids - even after ActMan already backed off, he still proceeded to harass KingKlutzy, MinxyOne, Garaa0ftheRage, and so on, only stopping with the whole lawsuit from his ex wife over illegal detainment and abuse EDIT: yes this includes copyright strikes - he still copyright struck smaller youtubers such as Sora
Boy, when Joon the King and Moist Cr1tikal eventually cover her, Lily’s gonna be obliterated, and it’s all going to be her fault for continuing to be a shit person.
Honestly, I hope this doesn't go that far. While neither of those guys are radicalized, they def have off vibes, Joon especially. A trans person who not only openly political, but wrong in many aspects seems like cocaine for grifters and a open season license for transphobes
@@randomguy019 Not great timing considering the Ava Kris Tyson stuff, either. But Lily's been unchecked for too long, it's long past time she faces serious repercussions.
@@randomguy019 Someones identity should not shield them from criticism just because some people will argue the wrong reasons against that person. The allegations in this video are bad and there are also allegations of pedo behavior and assaulting family. Lily 100% deserves to be reported on by everyone willing, and trolls and terminally online people shouldn't have an impact on how this gets reported on.
Idk what it is with people and trying to copyright strike against rightful criticism and commentary; It’s transformative content by it’s very nature. Praying for you, hope everything goes well 🙏
They do that because it works (with big channels that UA-cam will defend no matter what). Luckily Lily has been in decline for years and is pretty much a nobody.
Because those sorts of people are usually just pathetic bullies. They think they can use the system as a tool to silence any kind of criticism or critique against them or their content since their fragile egos can't take it.
Tbf, it used to be back in the day. However in one of the few good decision UA-cam has made in the past 10 years, it was changed precisely to avoid situations like this.
I will warn others of these attacks against the tribe. I have a beacon (bonfire) out yonder on the knoll (my backyard) to light and warn the sages of her arrival (tell everyone what a jerk she's being)
She is a type of person who skips over the text in Pokemon games, of course she doesnt have the patience to watch other videos, especially those directed at her. Easier to just claim something thats not true, even if it can potentially screw her over due to her laziness.
I have no idea who Lily Orchard is, so I searched up the name, and all I get are videos with titles like “the pathetic existence of…”, “why I’m not friends with..”, and “I’ve been harassed by…”. I have no idea who Lily is, but I have this immediate impression of insanity.
Claiming content theft is so hilarious. Like yeah lily, the people who watched the stream or highlight video of anthony showing how incompetent and ignorant you are of a child's video game franchise definitely allowed his viewers to enjoy your content without giving you a penny, my heart bleeds
@@Mimiyan_or_Pikapikafan- That’s actually how she is. She constantly misuses words and phrases, trying to make them stand for something they’re not. Heck she tries to take the names of obscure animals and use them as insults to sound hip and cool when in truth she just sounds even more of an idiot than she already is.
Literally the bottom of the barrel human being, Lily Orchard is. Your work is clearly transformative and so is Sai's (I'd say Lily has even LESS of a foothold because the video Sai plays only takes up 10% of the screen). I just got done binging all three streams and it's word for word what you said: commentary--ie TRANSFORMATIVE CONTENT. I don't care if this is how Lily makes a living, she needs a serious attitude change, at the LEAST. At the worst, she needs jailtime.
She made child pornography, as defined by Canadian law. And under Canadian law, she should be sentenced to 7 years in prison. So I'd disagree. She needs AT LEAST that amount of jail time.
@@bluebow5014- I say eternal because of what she did to her sister, threatening to badly beat up her mom if she misgenders her again, encouraging her child audience to resort to violence as the solution for all problems and making tweets where she was legit threatening to ax off the previous president because she doesn’t like him. (I don’t like Cheeto man either but I’m not stooping to his level like that)
this is incredibly childish behavior from lily. good on you for remaining so calm/serious if i was in this situation i would not be this patient lol. hope you can get this all sorted out :)))
Does Lily not find any irony with how her threats to copyright claim her critics parallels JK Rowling's own legal history of her suing her critics? Lily cant be so stupid as to not speak with a legal professional before taking action right? It would not just benefit her channel's health, but also her own financial situation. Lily, I hope, sees that she could be facing a class action lawsuit which would... ruin her. Like... it's commentary about her commentary on a children's video game...
See, but in Lily's mind, Rowling only sues people who disagree with her. Whereas Lily is threatening to sue people who are "harassing" her. She has such a self important view that she cannot see her actions in line with Rowling. If anything she'd try to find some way to compare Anthony and Rowling
Based on the Sniperwolf comment alone (As well as other similar, but unrelated comments) Lily comes across to me as someone who operates on the enlightened contrarian where if the majority holds one position then she will hold the opposite under the impression that the majority consensus is always wrong. I've seen her defend the arguments of folks who hide their bad faith arguments in liberative discourse even when those individuals directly harm actual causes by getting the basis of them wrong. I've seen her argue against things I hate and for things I like in such a way where she comes across as either having never engaged with it or where I still ultimately come to a conclusion that her arguments are wrong, not bad actually just factually incorrect. She comes across as someone raised on 4chan, realized she was trans and then did a 180 on politics, but kept all of the toxicity.
Exactly. Well put. I swear if Lily was unwilling to acknowledge or admit her trans-ness, she'd be a far-right reactionary. It's why I don't think she's a grifter, because being the far-right's token trans person would be a profitable gig. She legitimately wants to be contrarian, bad faith, and awful because it allows her to win internet arguments.
@@cito7288thats not fair to the brony community really. Sure it got its start on 4chan and weird corners of the net, but in its heyday it was full of vibrant, creative and educated people sincerely making good content. Many of its leaders who are still around are either openly trans themselves or vocal allies.
@@cito7288 Nah, dog. I was a brony, she also did this to the show, to the Brony community, and attacked other content creators in the same way she's attacking Ant.
That's exactly how she is. I used to watch her stuff, and years before even the midlest controversies stopped watching her because of the contrarian bs. The start was her original restrospectove on Red and Blue, but the final straw was a Disney in a Minute video(can't remember which one) where she desvribed Prince of Egypt as "Two guys fighting over the write to own an entire race." I know she's incredibly athiestic, but what the fuck. I'm agnostic myself and greatly dislike the Bible, but she did not just take the best bible story and one of the greatest films of all time, as well as a story about a man discovering his true heritage in a world where existing as Hebrew is tantamount to an automatic death sentence, and finding comfort in religion and a loving society, and returning to hos past mistakes to _free his own people from slavery_ as fighting over the right to own other Hebrews as a whole.
But she has the gall to call vaush a racist p3d0phile for 1. Screenshots of jokes 2. Clips of him saying child abuse is bad no matter the excuse 3. A vtuber lying about their characters age and telling artists to draw her All of these from kiwifarms, a site that wants all lgbtq people in jail
@andrewk.7498 by misgendering her you are allowing her a point of denial, as up to this point she has been able to pass much of her criticism off as unnecessary transphobia -- like this. i understand that maybe because you don't like her or don't agree with her that you think that this okay, but in misgendering her you are actually giving her an easier out and devaluing any larger argument to be made against her. It's also just fucked up. the criticism lies with her content and behavior, not her identity.
As someone who has seen a lot of criticism of Lilly Orchard vids, I can say that yours are by far the nicest coverage of her I’ve seen. I genuinely don’t know why Lilly has an issue with yours considering there are others that I have seen that are genuinely worse and aren’t as willing to listen/understand Lilly’s arguments or criticisms (as absurd as they are.)
It’s because he’s not kissing her feet like the goddess she thinks she is and actually proving her wrong instead of just constantly agreeing with her on her “opinions” like her yes man cult I mean fanbase.
Yeah it's kinda weird that there are actual transphobic critiques of her (and I don't condone that, obviously, don't fucking do that) but she goes after the most good faith critique
fun fact lily made Stockholm, after years of denying that she made Stockholm she comments to someone that she indeed made it out of "anger" and then proceeded to in that same comment state that she did not make it and that it was a "lie" from the brony community
She's been going back and forth on Stockholm for a while. Someone pointed out a while back that there's a video from years ago of her saying that she wrote it and she responded that it was "totally AI," despite the fact that AI like that didn't exist back then. She's gone from denying it, to saying she DID write it but it was angry bronies who edited in all the bad stuff, to saying she never heard of it, and now she's flip flopping again.
@@LunaMoth_Love this is word for word what she said “The short version is that Stockholm was an anti-pedophilia story written as a result of my anger with the way the brony fandom was turning a blind eye to child predation, the central premise being "everyone in a friend group ignores the obvious predatory behavior of a friend until they up and commit a crime." That's it. It pissed a bunch of bronies off (this was six years before the ToonKritic incident) and they've been lying about it ever since. My stance on it has been "I don't know what you're talking about" for years. It isn't something I can make an entire video about because it's extremely cut and dry, and most of the people bringing it up don't actually care. They'll just clip whatever I said and turn it into "SHE ADMITTED IT!"”
@@zweiigorgon8980 yeah, I remember her saying that. I know some people get annoyed when people bring it up, but I still think it's important because it showcases what hoops she's willing to jump through. I don't know how recent that particular comment is, but I know she's flat out denied it, semi admitted it (like in that comment), and so-on
I hope you’re doing okay Anthony. It really is pathetic of Lily to target literally anyone who has criticised her especially when it isn’t bad faith. I hope none of your videos are unfairly taken down since I love your content and especially your videos on Lily.
To quote Kendrick Lamer on 6:16 during the Drake beef: "Ain't no brownie points for beating your chest, harassin' Ant, F*ckin' with good people make good people go to bat"
you're handling this all 100% correctly and with , honestly, a lot more respect and civility than lily deserves. i hope you can dodge all of her attempts at hurting your livelihood but please remember to stay safe amongst youtube's rampant brokenness! i discovered your channel through the lily videos and i enjoy them a lot. it'd be tragic to see your channel unfairly terminated. do NOT rely on youtube to be any kind of just or fair, or to have a human look at the case at all. my (for legal reasons) FRIEND had a channel of an almost exact size to yours get randomly terminated with 0 strikes about a year ago. completely ghosted by yt :( please stay safe!!!
Lily's been exactly as garbage since the Brony Analysis days, this is absolutely not new behavior. Being one step above a certain "red-and-black OC" of the worst possible repute on the proverbial totem pole is frankly all Lily has left at this point and as anyone who knows knows it's worthless.
The irony is that Lily wishes desperately for the power to silence her critics (Ant, Sai, etc), but at the end of the day, when all is said and done, the only person whom Lily will have succeeded in silencing is herself. And we're seeing that happening before our eyes; even as I'm typing this, her channel is dying the death of a thousand cuts, and she has only herself to blame for all of this.
basically for those who didnt watch local "reviewer" gets angry that someone deconscructs her arguments about a monster catching and training video game and is now going on a baby rage and threating to copyright strike cause of that
I wouldn't worry about strikes on UA-cam now, if you appeal them, the claimant has to then show UA-cam evidence that they are taking the person to court over copyright in order to keep the videos removed. If they don't prove this within 14 days, the videos go back up.
lmao i found out about your channel like 3 hours ago, saw you criticized lily, and knew she was gonna pull something like this. Btw hi lily, i know you're sad enough to be reading these comments.
You would think youtubers like this would learn not to strike people like this cause it only makes them look horrible and most of the time never, goes well for them
If your video wouldn't be fair use, wouldn't her's also not be. She just spoke over the Pokemon games, with the odd extra image that is usually also stolen from elsewhere.
The biggest thing I don't get about Lily's plan is that she claimed she's trying to stop your reaction VODs for the same reason that most people online were trying to stop Sssniperwolfs reaction videos. Firstly, your VODs and video's alike are under fair use legally because you are doing so not just to "transform" the video's but for critique and comment onto her content. Secondly, Sssniperwolf was being unfair to the creators of several sources of content, and after being called out for it promply researched, doxxed, and threatened violence towards Jacksfillms who was the biggest creator that was pleading her to give credit where credit was do. The fact that I can say you reviewed the Lily Orchard Pokemon Retrospective in a critical and personal but respectful manor tells me that she has no grounds for a legal battle, let alone even trying against you. TL;DR: Lily is very self righteous and that self righteousness has been proven to range between pokemon and legal disputes and leads her to think her word means more than it does with anything about those subjects.
It really seems like she heard about what happened with sniperwolf, has no idea what happened, uses this to justify her actions cause she is the type of person to only make lip service about things and take other people's words then do her own research on the situation and realizing that she could get completely destroyed by her own actions.
She is just being nasty and stupid and cruel because she’s angry and she doesn’t know what that means for her yet. There’s no logic to it. This is just directionless self pity and impotent rage. I don’t know what that goober pretending to be her sister is up to, but she was becoming pretty terrible and full of rot even before that ghost showed up to haunt her. I’m afraid there is no plan, this is just who Lily is.
It’s clear she doesn’t understand what the Ssniperwolf situation is because the fundamental problem there is that she’s effectively replacing the need to watch the original videos and not crediting them. Here, Lily is still being credited which is a huge difference but also, response videos are not a replacement for her video. Sure these videos are deliberately playing her video, but that’s to both parties advantage as it allows whatever she said to be said in full context and not seem like the critic is manipulating the video to make her seem like she said something she didn’t. Plus, in these response videos, the viewing experience is not to replace Lily’s video because if I were to for whatever reason want to watch her video, I would just watch it and not circumvent it by watching it through the stream of a critic. Because that’s the fundamental question behind copyright and fair use, “is the video in question trying to replace the original video by unlawfully stealing another’s intellectual property”.
Another terminally online person doing harassment that is tantamount to an actual crime because they think "the internet's not real". Lily, you could get sued. Do you understand that snarky narcissism won't convince a jury?
I find it Ironic that she (in her older content) has justified how venomous she is with personal insults with "Don't be an idiot when I'm criticizing you and I won't call you out on it..." and this is exactly what's happening to her.
Someone correct me if im wrong, but doesnt Lily have a post complaining that Sai pauses too much/talks over her, and therefore isn't listening to her points? Almost like she keeps changing the narrative to whatever suits her.
The H3H3 case isn't the only one to draw from. Lindsey Ellis and Sarah Z have both covered media and gotten retaliation from the authors, leading to very similar situations as this one. They even both made videos on their times going back and forth and how flagarantly worthless the cease and desists were.
She’s always been like this, going after critics for whatever she can to cover herself, or anything she really just doesn’t like because viscera’s her brand, and her brand she has become. The only good call-out Lily has done that I recall-and to her credit, it was good that she did-was calling out a creep called Draco K-night Blaze for knowingly sharing NSFW material to a minor and ripping off artists by either taking and editing their work without credit or getting commission work done that he couldn’t pay for with his mom’s card (not sure if debit or credit).
Narcissists are always total manchildren (or in her case womanchild? Idk doesnt have the same ring to it, I’m gonna declare manchild to be gender neutral) Just look at Andrew Tate, Donald Trump, and the Paul Brothers
What she really can't stand is that we've entered a LO Critical Renaissance where multiple streamers are regularly calling her out on her weird, hypocritical takes and she can't stand looking like an idiot. It's pure ego, especially when all of you go out of your way to avoid talking about the worse stuff she's been accused of.
It's not surprising given how much Lily moderates her comment section thoroughly and removes comments that criticize her or make any reasonable points.
Oh man now I’m really curious what did you say in the stream chat? (if you can remember of course) Cuz now I feel kinda sad that she didn’t see whatever it was you said and the ensuing meltdown she would’ve had over it could’ve been absolutely hilarious
I'm here to support you in the algorithm, screw bigger creators harassing the smaller guys. I'm sorry you're going through this I'll watch your videos going forward.
I’m not sure where else to put this online but I’ve been thinking about it for awhile. I think if/when Lily falls off completely from all the BS that she pulls on a daily basis, she’s gonna make a big shift. I’m calling it now that I think Lily will swing her and her remaining hardcore audience to a weird alt right grift once she’s realized no one on the left likes her at all anymore and that appealing (poorly) to them isn’t financially viable for her anymore. I just hope her fans realize what type of person she really is before anything like that actually happens though. Hope your issues with her blow over though man. I only recently found your channel but you’ve quickly grown to be a close favorite of mine for your analysis.
No I think she's too up her own ass for this. Usually with people who "leave the left" they either sell out and abandon their leftist values or never actually believed anything to begin with. For all her shitty and ragebait-y content Lily seems to be very genuine in her believes. She doesn't pretend to not get media for the sake of clicks she legit just doesn't get it. When I look at Lily I see someone who is too thick-headed and (let's be blunt) dunning-krueger-style stupid to ever become a grifter. She'll just continue to dig her heels in deeper and insist people criticising her are all wrong, stupid, hateful and transphobic, not because she's disingenuous, but rather because that's the only way her mind can compute the criticism.
Honestly I can see this happening too, even when she’s trying to appeal to the left, she still kinda gives off these weird alt-right vibes sometimes, so I wouldn’t really be shocked if she just decides to double down on it once she figures out that everyone on the left isn’t falling for her BS anymore.
Lily doesn't live in reality. She finds any and every way to justify her own narrative and spin on reality to suit her needs because she can't come to terms with the real world. If she's proven wrong, she comes up with a new excuse to explain why she's right in the end. She's the type of person to say that she's okay with doing this kind of stuff to other people and expect no consequence. But when other people do it to her, it's suddenly a problem and requires copyright strikes to avoid criticism. It's honestly sad. Good luck with all of this. You'll need it.
idk how you make inflammatory content to the degree she has and then get upset when people criticize her takes in turn. she leads a life that sounds absolutely exhausting, I can't imagine omg
While YT's improvements to preventing Fraudulent claims from just killing channels is gonna save those Lily is attacking from losing their channels (though still likely to harm channel engagement since algorithm likely punishes having a strike) her insane misuse could result in her losing her's due to rules around it, but knowing YT staff such an action will require attention from big accounts to push proper punishments. Also this case is once again her engaging with "anons" that are at least a super majority of cases are just her giving her more unfiltered opinions.
DOCUMENT EVERYTHING as other people in the comment section have said. It is absolutely in your best interests to have as much evidence as you need against her to both show her copyright strikes are unjustified, and also to help in case things escalate in lawsuit territory. I seriously don’t think Lily is actually will drag things out into court though, but evidence will protect your character and channel against whatever she tries to do to shut down her critics.
Her friend group doesn’t actually know how she is or ignores it. The latter includes her latest “wife” and even then she won’t listen to do that because she’s that stubborn. She’s claimed she has but like her supposed medical conditions and health issues that apparently sent her to the hospital, there’s enough inconsistencies that you can tell she’s spinning a world wrapped yarn on it.
@@Goleon Because anyone who tried to help her or confront her on her behavior she would immediately shun them away. Lily doesnt want help, and really doesnt deserve it.
Lily Orchard committing a Quantum TV. Let’s be real here. It didn’t work, and it will won’t WORK again. Several other UA-camrs have been also fought other people who tried the same thing and *failed* Mass report Lily’s channel for false copyright strikes, and well.. it’s fucking illegal and can get you a good amount of prison time too c:
Unfortunately, it did work in a way The Quantum TV shtick reached Susan Wojcicki herself and UA-cam's official stance was "we don't want to look like we ban people because UA-camrs tell us to" - simply because ActMan made a video with all the evidence Quantum actually continued to harass and copyright strike lesser known youtubers such as MinxyOne, Garaa0ftheRage, and KingKlutzy The only reason he even stopped was the lawsuit about illegal detainment and abuse filed by his wife
Lily seems to be used to people just rolling over when she does this stuff. I have a feeling it's going to take someone actually calling her bluff and taking her to court for her to learn her lesson (if that will even teach it to her. She feels brain dead enough to then make a 6 hour retrospective of the legal system and claim how it's full of abusers or something)
What is funniest about this situation is that the guys from the We Are Mot Alive channel (the professional writers she mentions) are literally doing professionally what she could only dream pf doing and are actually quite good at it
Please do not misgender Lily in the comments. Let's criticize her illicit actions. Not her identity.
@@ItsDaNewGuy What the heck is wrong with you???
@@ItsDaNewGuy That's absolutely moronic
🌈You do not have to be a transphobe to hate it when content creators try to muzzle dissent 🌠
@@ItsDaNewGuyyou suck
@@ItsDaNewGuy that's just rude, not to mention completely unnecessary
>Insults literally everyone
>Wonders why everyone dislikes her
>Gets called on it
>Deflects
>Repeat ad infinitum
Truly, Lily is an innovator in delusion
Peak DARVO
Oh Lily knows people dislike her but her delusional self keeps telling her audience is because they are “transphobic and racist” because it’s the only defense she has…
She knows her intelligence will fail her in a real Debate so uses that when she has no comeback from people respectfully disagreeing with her and proving her takes factually incorrect.
More like Lily borrows from the red pills, playbook.
She cannot help but act exactly like the conservatives. That she claims to hate!
What’s DARVO?
Yeah. Not even including all the other stuff she's done, she's just not a nice person. So, of course, people wouldn't like her.
We need everyone to be aware that what kickstarted Lily's copyright strike misuse was Sai calling her out on using the suicide of a trans teenager for her argument about why Steven Universe sucks. Nobody ever forget that. She's going on a censorship fueled tirade because she was rightfully scolded for using child's *death* as a point for why the show about *lesbian space rocks* is bad.
Wait, I saw the video, but this is new (or more probably: i don't rember). What did Lily said about this? What happened?
She flashed a picture of Layla Alcorn during one of her rants. I was watching Sai stream at the time and I was so thrown I got stuck in disgust for a bit but I am just filled with rage that lily would use her death to make a f×ucking cartoon argument 🙃
@@KelpieRider That had to have been why she struck Sai’s video, right? Cuz I can’t think of anything else other than her finally having this ugly thing she did revealed made her go on this whole tirade
@@frootsnacc6790 what the fuck
@@frootsnacc6790 SHE WHAT?!
a word of advice: DOCUMENT EVERYTHING, everything she says, every post of hers you think may be relevant, every character of text, and of course everything you say. The way people like lilly operate is by spewing lies to try and drown out the truth, but that also gives you a ton of evidence to nail lilly to wall in court if it comes to that.
So basically what Josh did in case Orchard ignored the c&d to stop slandering him which she technically has done.
Lily is also notorious for deleting/privating/taking down her stuff so she can try claiming it never happened
@@lizmurray6975 she's not good at it though 😂
Everyone:Agree sai is doing that
@@lizmurray6975 - Then when someone posts the receipts she claims they’re fake because they’re not on her account. It’s crazy how she hates Trump so much yet acts a lot like him.
She's just mad her critics get more views than she does. She won't accept that nobody likes her.
Seeing Sai's 3/4hr VODs get more views then her 15/20min videos will never not be funny😂
@@MortabluntJust because we don't like them doesn't mean we need to start misgendering people.
Him
@@andrewk.7498 no, Lily is a she/her. She can be scum of the earth, but that doesn't mean you shouldn't hate the right way. Use proper pronouns when hating someone, kids❤
@@andrewk.7498 Trans people in general do not deserve to be treated less just because Lily is an awful person
1:35 the fact that lily knows about the diregentleman video on her incoherent writing tips is so fucking funny
I'd love to have the link to that video
@@gg_sam7847 just look up two professional writers react to lily orchards simple writing tips
Oh she knows. Not too long ago, she took a potshot at their video in one of hers. Funny thing is, she tried to spin her rules thread as a joke. She reshared the thumbnail of their video and changed the title to 2 idiots take a joke thread too seriously. She’s really trying gaslight everyone now. If it was a joke, then why did she take it down and abandoned Twitter? Lol.
@@Fractorification yeah, if it was so obviously a joke, why did she make 100 entire tips? Most of them aren't exactly over the top jokey type either, and by number 100 the joke has definitely worn off.
OF COURSE IT IS HILARIOUS
XD
Lily Orchard: *Is a fan of the Jimquisition*
Also Lily Orchard: *Behavior of Digital Homicide*
This shows that Lily Orchard, much like her grifting companions in Fandom Menace, can dish it, but can't take the critique. If you can't take the heat, stay out of the kitchen (as they say).
Wait I thought Lily once said using Queer as a descriptive for... well queer people was using a slur and we should stop, but I'm pretty sure Stephanie uses that and is frankly one of the queerest queers to queer up this platform. That feels... wrong.
You're dead on about the Digital Homicide thing 🤣
LilyOrchard is the type of person who just doesn't believe in anything. She'll espouse certain political ideals and has no shortage of bad faith criticisms for the beliefs of others, but her actions consistently show Lily really doesn't care about anything or anyone but Lily.
Lily not understanding something she supposedly fan of ? I'm shocked
It’s been so painful to watch Lily turn herself into such a goon and disrespectful little monster. I really did enjoy her work and really believe in her… for whatever reason, there is just no competing with her true love: directionless, random anger. She likes to hurt people.
Oh, Lily's backed herself into a corner here. She's trying to intimidate her critics into silence while also lying about the content of those videos to her audience on Tumblr. If this escalates to legal battles, there's written evidence of her openly mischaracterizing the contents of other people's works to fit her narrative. because there's no way 3 streams that double the length of the original video will come off as "playing the pokemon video in silence" in a court of law. if she doubles down now there's no way she can make it through a lawsuit without perjuring herself along the way
Ho dang that's so true
bold of you to assume she's not lying about taking them to court. or just planning to do what trump does and lose on purpose to make herself look like a martyr
@@amateurprogrammer25 she definitely wouldn't be about that at all
Its assumed by many people in the space that most -if not all- of Lily's anon tumblr asks are sock puppet accounts that she uses to send asks to herself.
That’s what I’ll always say cuz the rules of the site are that you must have an account to go anon for asking someone.
All of the anonymous asks have the same typing quirks that she does.
Sock puppet account is a really cool saying I never heard of
I believe Anthony mentioned in one of his last streams that Lilly even leaked an avatar icon on her desktop during a stream that belongs to a Tumblr account that gushes over the coffin of andy and leyley. If that’s true, then she secretly loves the game while condemning it as incest trash on her main account. Given the allegations from her sister though, this may very well be the case.
@@frigometri257 Oh god I'm so ancient why did you say this 😭
She's so done for. Messing with the copyright system is UA-cam's cardinal sin. It won't be long before the big drama channels rip her to pieces.
“The lily orchard situation is crazy”
Waiting for a SWOOP doc
UA-camr “Joon the King” is planning on doing a Lily video eventually, I hope he is made aware of this and has it in his video.
@@brandonlyon730Plus all the stuff about Courtney. He can’t leave that out.
YESSSSS SWOOP DOC!!!
Just to clarify Lily can’t scrounge up enough money to change her name OR enough to get her wife to come live with her, BUT she has enough to take someone to court…? Likely story, it ain’t gonna happen, I think everyone is safe here. Wishing u the best tho seriously.
Wait is that why she's just "Lily Orchard" now on YT? I saw her Steven Universe video a couple months back and the channel was named after her and I guess her wife, but now it's just her?
@@DJ_Pyrodox She changes her UA-cam channel on a whim, it's not because of that. She got Orchard from her ex from a long time ago whom she abused pretty harshly. Now she's married to Mikaila and she claims that she only took her name off the channel and changed it back to Lily Orchard because Mikaila has been "too busy" to contribute.
@@LunaMoth_Love Willing to bet that Mikaila cut her losses and left Lily after the allegations of what Lily did to her sister came to light a few months ago.
She has a wife?! Gardevoir are real?!
@@Grf1556 I watched the Poppy and Zena video before they were outed as massive aholes.
Your Pokemon videos were how I found out who Lily Orchard, and since then, I've gone down the Lily Orchard rabbit hole of how bad of a person she is. I hope everything works out in your favorite Anthony.
Im in the same boat as you with the pokemon videos being how I found out
Same here but I didnt have the energy or interest to go down that rabbit hole. Just seems like someone not worth the time.
Same here as well
The furthest I went down the rabbit hole (outside of reading the comments on Anthony's streams and the 4h supercut) was watching a short portion of her video in which she criticized Arthas, stating how people blow his tragedy out of proportion _(there might be a grain of truth in there, but that's kind of the case with any popular character),_ how he was an asshole from the start and that this is mostly because he's a white man.
I deleted the video from my watch history afterwards.
I knew about that "person" via Just a Robot, then this guy's pkmn video popped up. And from what I understand, that "person" is as bad as oniseeon and should be dealt with.
Lily ain’t beating the thin skin allegations
_razor-thin_
@@a-s-greigShe's all edge and no resistance!
So thin she’s practically translucent.
She has about as thin of skin as JK Rowling XD
Does she even have skin?
Does the Streisand effect mean nothing to Lily?
Knowing her videos, it means something else to her than it does to everyone else.
No, it actually benefits her because she is a negativity chaser with an ego the size of a planet.
What's the Streisand effect?
@@vetarlittorf1807"The Streisand effect is an unintended consequence of attempts to hide, remove, or censor information, where the effort instead increases public awareness of the information. The effect is named for American singer and actress Barbra Streisand, whose attorney's attempt in 2003 to suppress the publication of a photograph showing her clifftop residence in Malibu, taken to document coastal erosion in California, inadvertently drew far greater attention to the previously obscure photograph."-Wikipedia
@@vetarlittorf1807 A bit of internet history. Turns out that back in the day, the address to Barbara Streisand's house got leaked online, I'm talking like, very early 2000's when stuff like this was pretty rare. Thing is, even if it was online, you would still want to search for it to find the info, and, back then, the internet was a tool but not the behemoth that is today so few people knew or where aware of that information being available. Thing it, it would've been pretty fine if Barbara Streisand didn't make a press conference announcing how disgusted she was that her address was leaked online and to PLEASE NOT GOOGLE HER ADRESS BECAUSE IT'S OUT THERE AND YOU CAN EASILY FIND IT NOW IF YOU GOOGLE IT
Well... Guess what search result was trending that week?
So the Streisand effect refers to something that could go completely unnoticed if just left alone but that the involved parties can't stop bringing attention to it in a misguided attempt to stop you from taking notice of it.
In this case, Lily's criticism would not be so bad if she didn't insist on replying, poke, point, link, reference and highlight each and every criticism made of her constantly and basically corroborating that everything said about her is true.
i keenly remember seeing a screenshot in an old callout for Lily Orchard which showed a quiplash game where Liky and her friends were making extremely detailed murder-torture fantasies towards Sarah Z
Because Sarah Z had the thumbnail for Lily’s SU video in the video thumbnail of her video on Bad Media Critiques that didn’t even focus or name drop Lily Orchard directly aside from “here’s an picture of a super long and popular but kinda shallow media critique”.
Technically Sarah did briefly discuss Lily's video, but she only spent about 2 minutes talking about it. What pissed Lily off was a mistake Sarah made, where they claimed she accused Rebecca Sugar of designing a racist character. Lily did say that Sugar didn't design it, she just criticized them for putting it in an art book. Sarah apologized, but Lily still tries to claim she misrepresented her video on purpose.
@@allisoncarter5662 it definitely feels like Lily doesn't personally know how to actually apologize and so assumed anyone else who does so is just as fake as she is.
@@Alkeeros That sounds pretty accurate, yeah.
@@allisoncarter5662 I remember that video, actually. It's oft forgotten, but Sarah Z also pointed out her blind tirade/rant at Sugar about how n*zi-ish she was sounding. While Sarah Z should have included Lily verbally backspacing and saying all the things she just said she didn't really believe, Lily absolutely lost her shit at that in her response video. Pretty much blowing up, calling Sarah a liar, etc.
It almost feels like Lily set that moment up to be taken out of context so she could be righteously angry at people who did. Because, you know, she goes on a longwinded rant directly attack Sugar and then quietly dismisses it immediately after. Like, the whole implication is "She's all these things, but I don't _think_ she's all these things."
Telling Lily to use common sense…No offense, Anthony…But when has common sense ever stopped Lily from doing…ANY of the awful stuff she’s done in her life??
I hate how true this is.
IKR? Lily has no empathy, no common sense, is extremely selfish, doesn’t possess the ability to plan ahead, and reacts emotionally to everything. That’s liek a textbook symptoms of Narcissistic Personality Disorder.
I'm pretty sure that for Lilly, "common sense" has a completely different and backwards meaning than usual.
I honestly kinda doubt that she has ever used common sense at any point in her entire life.
The other allegations are fake watch her response
I wonder how she feels about being the most hated trans woman in online media analysis spaces without any of it being in regards to her identity.
It says a lot that she's more hated than Blaire White.
@@Saltyoven just looked up who she is 😬 truscum are really disgusting.
@@Saltyoven I feel like if you bring both these women up in the same space something devastating is destined to happen.
@@CadDriftarus OK, but with the way the world is going, would we even notice?
At this point, I think we'd all just be like "so that was Tuesday morning", and get on with our day.
josh Scorcher once tried to file a cease and desist on Lily because she was constantly slandering him in her videos. her response was her laughing it off, mocking his attempt and daring him to take her to court
now that someone is doing it to her, she suddenly wants to use the system to silence people
HMMMMMMMM very sus Lilian
Lily is going by the "rules for thee, but not for me" logical fallacy.
@@Bionickpunk a tale as old as time yea. Dose of Buckley covered politics versions of that this weekend. It happens on so many people.
@@Bionickpunk yep! She’s being hypocritical.
Lily: "if I file a copyright suits then my critics will stop talking about me"
Streisand effect: "bold strategy, let's see if it pays out"
She won't. Even if she loses the copyright claim battle with UA-cam or just takes them back, she’ll still see herself as the victim, and she needs to win.
Dont be a dick morta.
@@Mortabluntshe
Might be an asshole but that doesnt give you the right to misgender
I feel like before Lily could get away with her response to criticism precisely because it was largely transphobes attacking her for her identity, but the last few months have brought about a new chapter to Lily, these being critics of her that are like you and Sai, who don't attack her for her identity, but rather call her out for her frankly bad behavior and rather questionable media criticism. It seems like Lily has found herself scrambling to get a proper response without looking like the unreasonable person in the room, and this sort of damage control might mark the beginning of the end.
@@extrahistory8956 Honestly she seems too thick skin to realise she's backing herself in a corner.
Until it's far too late to change anything.
As someone who has had an eye on Lily since her "misadventures" in the MLP fandom oh so very long ago, Lily's critics have (for the most part) always been remarkably accepting of her identity. It's almost impressive how much hate she has garnered up without her gender as a factor.
Lily isn't even trans. It is the exact person who would pretend to be trans to prey on minors. Lily literally touch its own sister. I'm lgbt and I'm fine throwing lily to the wolves
Stop lying.
Bro ive known about lily since steven universe, the majority of her critics have always been respectful of her identity. Shes just not very smart
-She hates Penny's storyline for "validating bullies"
-Is a bully herself
Oh she also said she's open to criticism in her Pokemon video but is striking people videos criticizing her lol
Oh please tell me she did NOT actually say that about Penny's story, because that would be a completely backwards interpretation of what the story is about. PLEASE.
@@SuperFloxes taken from the video itself:
"I'm going to be honest I hate this one. The entire premise is just another the bullied has become the bullied and I f'king hate this trope so f'king much. That every character is the same and once you beat them they get all moody is even worse. And what really puts the stake through its heart is that it has five times more dialogue that it needs to. At the end of the day this is a story about a bullied girl believing she has become a villain and not once are we allowed to say no your f'king not. So yeah, f'k Starfall Street."
@@Ballslover18 please tell me she doesn't shit on arven's story too?
@@someguynamedtrevor6081- She does. Sees him as an emo sad boy with anger issues. She actually calls Gladion and Hunter from Owl House something similar which all boils down to the fact that these three are abusive victims who overcome their trauma from said abuse and move on with their lives ie basically doing what most of Orchard’s own abuse victims have done. Also no she doesn’t include Lillie because she’s a cute young babu (her word that she’s way too much) girl that Orchard adores greatly like she does with Nemona who’s another reason for the Penny hate because Penny dared to insult Nemona and no one gets away with insulting Orchard’s precious favorite character.
@@Goleon Jesus christ
I remember that debacle with Lily using an artists work without crediting her and she made such a big stink about it that she mocked the # on twitter back then when folks called her out to respect the artist and lily replied EARN the respect
it's all snark and bloated ego until shits done to her then Lily acts like she's the victim, where have i heard that before
Digital Homicide?
@@GravityFaiz no it was something else Artist Meltdown or something
She is straight up all hypocrite, that’s all she is. Stealing others content then being mad at others and SUING others for allegedly doing the same. Just one in a million cases of hypocrisy
Lily is confused!
Lily hurt herself in her confusion!
Lily blames it entirely on bad game RNG.
Its not very effective.
Trainer Anthony beat Lady Lily in arbitration!
Trainer Anthony won $1,337 in damages!
If I'm doing the math correctly, it took you 11 hours and 25 minutes to review Lily's 6 hour and 24 minute Pokémon video. You nearly DOUBLED the length of her video through your commentary. And didn't you put her video on 1.25 or 1.5 speed? (Maybe that was me, lmao)
Your streams definitely fall under transformative work. Copyright claiming them would be self destructive. It's also a pain. I send good vibes to you and I hope she doesn't start things.
“A pain” and “self destructive” kind of sums up lily orchard in general
Deeply true @@FloofMother
He started speeding up her video once he got to Gen 6.
@@robertlupa8273 You would too if it was just to get it over with.
Just an aside here: It's interesting and telling that while Lily technically genders Trixie the Golden Witch correctly in that initial Tumblr post, she refers to her by her very old, distinctly masculine handle. I feel like this is a pattern of sorts when put into the context of the strange contrast between her frequently rather puritanical social justice framing around her personal fiction dislikes and the crass, often creepy jokes she insists on making, as well as the frankly landlord-brained attitude towards copyright, where it's pretty clear that Lily never really stopped being the weird dirtbag edgelord that she was very early in her time in the public eye. Sure, she transitioned and started expressing nominally leftist views, but the core person is fairly static, and she only seems to stop herself from saying some wildly offensive shit because that wouldn't gel with the image she has of herself or wants to project to her audience.
Lily also likes using people's full legal names when she can in videos (she recently did this when she was addressing KP's video on her). Also not surprised she uses old usernames to misgender other trans people, considering she's had a habit of deadnaming people in the past.
It seems she's slightly transphobic in general. Not to herself, but to other. She constantly misgenders Stevonnie too. I think this, combined with the legal name stuff @notshardain mentioned, is primarily a control tactic.
I mentiones this on Sai's community post, but cant Lily get in trouble for filing too many copyright strikes in a short amount of time? I think its cuz it shows abuse of the system, but i worry im wrong
Yes. It can have IMMEDIATE repercussions against her.
@@agramuglia unless she was scumbag smart and used her fans and multiple bot accounts to do it. Layers of obsfuscation and all that. She doesn't strike me as savy enough for the latter, but ya never know.
If team youtube finds the copyright strikes are done in malicious intent they can and will remove the channel that makes the copyright strikes.This happened with a channel named Smash Bandicoot recently where Smash made multiple copyright strikes against guys he had beef with(Cartoonshi,Chazzington...) which lead to them and their fans spreading awareness to the situation which lead to youtube removing the strikes and deleting Smash's main account and one of his alt account.
Problem is: there is actually a history of UA-cam just...ignoring this once UA-camrs call out the person in question
If I may cite ye olde feud of ActMan vs Quantum TV - apparently that whole debacle reached Susan Wojicki herself and the official stance was "this looks like bullying, we don't ban people because UA-camrs tell us to", and Quantum actually never got punished for anything covered in ActMan's vids - even after ActMan already backed off, he still proceeded to harass KingKlutzy, MinxyOne, Garaa0ftheRage, and so on, only stopping with the whole lawsuit from his ex wife over illegal detainment and abuse
EDIT: yes this includes copyright strikes - he still copyright struck smaller youtubers such as Sora
Her life as an abuser got her used to the idea that she can just push whoever disagrees with her around. Nothing will come of it.
Boy, when Joon the King and Moist Cr1tikal eventually cover her, Lily’s gonna be obliterated, and it’s all going to be her fault for continuing to be a shit person.
Honestly, I hope this doesn't go that far. While neither of those guys are radicalized, they def have off vibes, Joon especially. A trans person who not only openly political, but wrong in many aspects seems like cocaine for grifters and a open season license for transphobes
Joon the king is making a video on lilly its going to be wild
@@oneofnone7947 I'm for this
@@randomguy019 Not great timing considering the Ava Kris Tyson stuff, either. But Lily's been unchecked for too long, it's long past time she faces serious repercussions.
@@randomguy019 Someones identity should not shield them from criticism just because some people will argue the wrong reasons against that person. The allegations in this video are bad and there are also allegations of pedo behavior and assaulting family. Lily 100% deserves to be reported on by everyone willing, and trolls and terminally online people shouldn't have an impact on how this gets reported on.
Idk what it is with people and trying to copyright strike against rightful criticism and commentary; It’s transformative content by it’s very nature. Praying for you, hope everything goes well 🙏
One word:
"And I took that seriously."
They do that because it works (with big channels that UA-cam will defend no matter what). Luckily Lily has been in decline for years and is pretty much a nobody.
If I had to explain the reason for this in 2 words, I would simply call it this: “Fragile Egos”
Because those sorts of people are usually just pathetic bullies. They think they can use the system as a tool to silence any kind of criticism or critique against them or their content since their fragile egos can't take it.
A candle flickers most violently just before it's about to go out.
Lilly 's time is over and she knows it.
Lily, and most, if not ALL, of GriftTube.
that is a cold ass line holy shit
It's really telling that Lily struck 3 of Sai's vids and thought it was a done deal. Like, that was enough to take them down.
Tbf, it used to be back in the day. However in one of the few good decision UA-cam has made in the past 10 years, it was changed precisely to avoid situations like this.
I will warn others of these attacks against the tribe. I have a beacon (bonfire) out yonder on the knoll (my backyard) to light and warn the sages of her arrival (tell everyone what a jerk she's being)
Now all of China knows she is there, and that Rohan calls for aide
Thus Spake Kishibe Rohan
@@baichibee "now all of China knows you're cringe"
@@baichibee perfect
"multi hour streams of just playing the videos in silence" ??? Is she that bad at media analysis that she skips over your commentary, or just lying?
She is a type of person who skips over the text in Pokemon games, of course she doesnt have the patience to watch other videos, especially those directed at her. Easier to just claim something thats not true, even if it can potentially screw her over due to her laziness.
@@Bionickpunk she just wanted to use her goon material and whine about it being bad competitively, it was like that since she started gen 3 lol
I have no idea who Lily Orchard is, so I searched up the name, and all I get are videos with titles like “the pathetic existence of…”, “why I’m not friends with..”, and “I’ve been harassed by…”.
I have no idea who Lily is, but I have this immediate impression of insanity.
That's about right
Yeah... i just learned about what happened to her sister
Claiming content theft is so hilarious. Like yeah lily, the people who watched the stream or highlight video of anthony showing how incompetent and ignorant you are of a child's video game franchise definitely allowed his viewers to enjoy your content without giving you a penny, my heart bleeds
"enjoy" is a strong word
listening to lily is more like torture
Respond to Ants criticism about her not liking Plot in video games: ❎
Complain / threaten a false strike: ✅
Lily, have you heard of the straisand effect?
Probably. But she probably didn't understood it.
@@phonybeautrain6520 honestly that a hilarious thought on it
@@Mimiyan_or_Pikapikafan- That’s actually how she is. She constantly misuses words and phrases, trying to make them stand for something they’re not. Heck she tries to take the names of obscure animals and use them as insults to sound hip and cool when in truth she just sounds even more of an idiot than she already is.
Everyone has heard of it, but so many seem to think it wouldn't apply to them.
Literally the bottom of the barrel human being, Lily Orchard is. Your work is clearly transformative and so is Sai's (I'd say Lily has even LESS of a foothold because the video Sai plays only takes up 10% of the screen). I just got done binging all three streams and it's word for word what you said: commentary--ie TRANSFORMATIVE CONTENT.
I don't care if this is how Lily makes a living, she needs a serious attitude change, at the LEAST. At the worst, she needs jailtime.
She made child pornography, as defined by Canadian law.
And under Canadian law, she should be sentenced to 7 years in prison.
So I'd disagree.
She needs AT LEAST that amount of jail time.
@@momentmoment-4 Damn you’re absolutely right
Seven years Jail time at the least then, eternal jail time at the worst
@@bluebow5014- I say eternal because of what she did to her sister, threatening to badly beat up her mom if she misgenders her again, encouraging her child audience to resort to violence as the solution for all problems and making tweets where she was legit threatening to ax off the previous president because she doesn’t like him. (I don’t like Cheeto man either but I’m not stooping to his level like that)
this is incredibly childish behavior from lily. good on you for remaining so calm/serious if i was in this situation i would not be this patient lol. hope you can get this all sorted out :)))
Not childish, illegal~ behavior by Lily.
It’s nothing new. Lily’s hatred and toxicity knows no bounds.
Does Lily not find any irony with how her threats to copyright claim her critics parallels JK Rowling's own legal history of her suing her critics? Lily cant be so stupid as to not speak with a legal professional before taking action right? It would not just benefit her channel's health, but also her own financial situation. Lily, I hope, sees that she could be facing a class action lawsuit which would... ruin her. Like... it's commentary about her commentary on a children's video game...
See, but in Lily's mind, Rowling only sues people who disagree with her. Whereas Lily is threatening to sue people who are "harassing" her. She has such a self important view that she cannot see her actions in line with Rowling. If anything she'd try to find some way to compare Anthony and Rowling
Based on the Sniperwolf comment alone (As well as other similar, but unrelated comments) Lily comes across to me as someone who operates on the enlightened contrarian where if the majority holds one position then she will hold the opposite under the impression that the majority consensus is always wrong. I've seen her defend the arguments of folks who hide their bad faith arguments in liberative discourse even when those individuals directly harm actual causes by getting the basis of them wrong. I've seen her argue against things I hate and for things I like in such a way where she comes across as either having never engaged with it or where I still ultimately come to a conclusion that her arguments are wrong, not bad actually just factually incorrect. She comes across as someone raised on 4chan, realized she was trans and then did a 180 on politics, but kept all of the toxicity.
Exactly. Well put. I swear if Lily was unwilling to acknowledge or admit her trans-ness, she'd be a far-right reactionary. It's why I don't think she's a grifter, because being the far-right's token trans person would be a profitable gig.
She legitimately wants to be contrarian, bad faith, and awful because it allows her to win internet arguments.
Well, she’s a former brony, and from what I’ve heard they weren’t too different from 4channers, so you’re pretty close
@@cito7288thats not fair to the brony community really. Sure it got its start on 4chan and weird corners of the net, but in its heyday it was full of vibrant, creative and educated people sincerely making good content. Many of its leaders who are still around are either openly trans themselves or vocal allies.
@@cito7288 Nah, dog. I was a brony, she also did this to the show, to the Brony community, and attacked other content creators in the same way she's attacking Ant.
That's exactly how she is. I used to watch her stuff, and years before even the midlest controversies stopped watching her because of the contrarian bs. The start was her original restrospectove on Red and Blue, but the final straw was a Disney in a Minute video(can't remember which one) where she desvribed Prince of Egypt as "Two guys fighting over the write to own an entire race." I know she's incredibly athiestic, but what the fuck. I'm agnostic myself and greatly dislike the Bible, but she did not just take the best bible story and one of the greatest films of all time, as well as a story about a man discovering his true heritage in a world where existing as Hebrew is tantamount to an automatic death sentence, and finding comfort in religion and a loving society, and returning to hos past mistakes to _free his own people from slavery_ as fighting over the right to own other Hebrews as a whole.
She needs to not only be deplatformed, she needs to go to prison. She’s beyond dangerous & needs to be kept away from people, especially children.
But she has the gall to call vaush a racist p3d0phile for
1. Screenshots of jokes
2. Clips of him saying child abuse is bad no matter the excuse
3. A vtuber lying about their characters age and telling artists to draw her
All of these from kiwifarms, a site that wants all lgbtq people in jail
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@andrewk.7498 by misgendering her you are allowing her a point of denial, as up to this point she has been able to pass much of her criticism off as unnecessary transphobia -- like this.
i understand that maybe because you don't like her or don't agree with her that you think that this okay, but in misgendering her you are actually giving her an easier out and devaluing any larger argument to be made against her. It's also just fucked up. the criticism lies with her content and behavior, not her identity.
The allegations were fake watch her response
Lily isn’t fit for the internet at all
No she is definitely not. She needs to be taken off the internet.
@@jonelrobinson7432 yep
unfortunately I think this applies to a lot more people than we want to admit
As someone who has seen a lot of criticism of Lilly Orchard vids, I can say that yours are by far the nicest coverage of her I’ve seen.
I genuinely don’t know why Lilly has an issue with yours considering there are others that I have seen that are genuinely worse and aren’t as willing to listen/understand Lilly’s arguments or criticisms (as absurd as they are.)
It’s because he’s not kissing her feet like the goddess she thinks she is and actually proving her wrong instead of just constantly agreeing with her on her “opinions” like her yes man cult I mean fanbase.
Yeah it's kinda weird that there are actual transphobic critiques of her (and I don't condone that, obviously, don't fucking do that) but she goes after the most good faith critique
Mhmm yep this is predictable from her. Everytime lily is mentioned i get second hand embarrasment.
She's utterly terrified that she's gotten on Joon the King's radar.
Wait really? I was joking about wanting a Joon the King video regarding her, but I wouldn't want to put that poor man through it
As of now, Joon has entered the gladiator match.
Remember: Any Anon are just Lily talking to herself.
Not true. I left one.
@@agramugliaoh no spidrs lilly?!
@@agramuglia so one from you and the test are lily talking to herself lol
@@agramugliaFair enough.
*ahem*
Remember: Most of the anon asks are actually Lily just talking to herself.
Bruh, that’s genuinely pretty damn pathetic from her honestly
fun fact lily made Stockholm, after years of denying that she made Stockholm she comments to someone that she indeed made it out of "anger" and then proceeded to in that same comment state that she did not make it and that it was a "lie" from the brony community
She's been going back and forth on Stockholm for a while. Someone pointed out a while back that there's a video from years ago of her saying that she wrote it and she responded that it was "totally AI," despite the fact that AI like that didn't exist back then. She's gone from denying it, to saying she DID write it but it was angry bronies who edited in all the bad stuff, to saying she never heard of it, and now she's flip flopping again.
@@LunaMoth_Love this is word for word what she said
“The short version is that Stockholm was an anti-pedophilia story written as a result of my anger with the way the brony fandom was turning a blind eye to child predation, the central premise being "everyone in a friend group ignores the obvious predatory behavior of a friend until they up and commit a crime."
That's it. It pissed a bunch of bronies off (this was six years before the ToonKritic incident) and they've been lying about it ever since. My stance on it has been "I don't know what you're talking about" for years.
It isn't something I can make an entire video about because it's extremely cut and dry, and most of the people bringing it up don't actually care. They'll just clip whatever I said and turn it into "SHE ADMITTED IT!"”
@@zweiigorgon8980 yeah, I remember her saying that. I know some people get annoyed when people bring it up, but I still think it's important because it showcases what hoops she's willing to jump through. I don't know how recent that particular comment is, but I know she's flat out denied it, semi admitted it (like in that comment), and so-on
@@LunaMoth_Love that comment was made legit yesterday
I hope you’re doing okay Anthony. It really is pathetic of Lily to target literally anyone who has criticised her especially when it isn’t bad faith. I hope none of your videos are unfairly taken down since I love your content and especially your videos on Lily.
I respect you staying strong and standing your ground man. Keep it like that and much luck with this whole thing!
To quote Kendrick Lamer on 6:16 during the Drake beef:
"Ain't no brownie points for beating your chest, harassin' Ant, F*ckin' with good people make good people go to bat"
Holy shit it all lines up
Also based 6:16 in LA enjoyer
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you're handling this all 100% correctly and with , honestly, a lot more respect and civility than lily deserves. i hope you can dodge all of her attempts at hurting your livelihood but please remember to stay safe amongst youtube's rampant brokenness! i discovered your channel through the lily videos and i enjoy them a lot. it'd be tragic to see your channel unfairly terminated. do NOT rely on youtube to be any kind of just or fair, or to have a human look at the case at all.
my (for legal reasons) FRIEND had a channel of an almost exact size to yours get randomly terminated with 0 strikes about a year ago. completely ghosted by yt :( please stay safe!!!
Lily's less left-leaning than she think she is for pulling this stunt.
She's coming across as eerily similar to the Queen Terf.
Lily's been exactly as garbage since the Brony Analysis days, this is absolutely not new behavior. Being one step above a certain "red-and-black OC" of the worst possible repute on the proverbial totem pole is frankly all Lily has left at this point and as anyone who knows knows it's worthless.
Before that even. It's kinda nice knowing that she has always been the same terrible person.
@@GrandArchPriestOfTheAlgorithmand for all we know, she might’ve actually gotten even worse somehow!
The irony is that Lily wishes desperately for the power to silence her critics (Ant, Sai, etc), but at the end of the day, when all is said and done, the only person whom Lily will have succeeded in silencing is herself. And we're seeing that happening before our eyes; even as I'm typing this, her channel is dying the death of a thousand cuts, and she has only herself to blame for all of this.
If Lily Orchard wants to take down all the videos that make her look bad, she should start by deleting her channel.
You and Sai are doing great work beyond even the Lily stuff, please don’t give up.
basically for those who didnt watch local "reviewer" gets angry that someone deconscructs her arguments about a monster catching and training video game and is now going on a baby rage and threating to copyright strike cause of that
The fact that she thinks your video isn’t transformative enough to qualify for fair use just goes to show how poor her media literacy really is 😂
I wouldn't worry about strikes on UA-cam now, if you appeal them, the claimant has to then show UA-cam evidence that they are taking the person to court over copyright in order to keep the videos removed. If they don't prove this within 14 days, the videos go back up.
True! Something tells me she won't be taking me to court over this, haha
Now *this* is good.
"This isn't me begging for your mercy I don't care about your mercy." That goes so unbelievably hard ngl
All these years later and Lily is still being a menace to literally everyone.
lmao i found out about your channel like 3 hours ago, saw you criticized lily, and knew she was gonna pull something like this. Btw hi lily, i know you're sad enough to be reading these comments.
It'd really suck to lose one of my favorite accounts shortly after discovering it.
Lily Orchard really ain’t gonna beat her allegations. She ain’t even gonna try
You would think youtubers like this would learn not to strike people like this cause it only makes them look horrible and most of the time never, goes well for them
If your video wouldn't be fair use, wouldn't her's also not be. She just spoke over the Pokemon games, with the odd extra image that is usually also stolen from elsewhere.
Lily is now officially one of those UA-camrs where their controversy videos appears before their actual channel
What's stopping everyone from reporting her for harrasment? She consistently does this shit on here and on tumblr to multiple people
It sounds like Lily is trying to silence her critics which is quite frankly a shitty thing for anyone to do and reeks of bully behaviour.
Makes sense she do this as she’s pulled this to try to silence her abuse victims.
@@Goleon I wish Lily was in prison just like Trump
The biggest thing I don't get about Lily's plan is that she claimed she's trying to stop your reaction VODs for the same reason that most people online were trying to stop Sssniperwolfs reaction videos. Firstly, your VODs and video's alike are under fair use legally because you are doing so not just to "transform" the video's but for critique and comment onto her content. Secondly, Sssniperwolf was being unfair to the creators of several sources of content, and after being called out for it promply researched, doxxed, and threatened violence towards Jacksfillms who was the biggest creator that was pleading her to give credit where credit was do. The fact that I can say you reviewed the Lily Orchard Pokemon Retrospective in a critical and personal but respectful manor tells me that she has no grounds for a legal battle, let alone even trying against you.
TL;DR: Lily is very self righteous and that self righteousness has been proven to range between pokemon and legal disputes and leads her to think her word means more than it does with anything about those subjects.
It really seems like she heard about what happened with sniperwolf, has no idea what happened, uses this to justify her actions cause she is the type of person to only make lip service about things and take other people's words then do her own research on the situation and realizing that she could get completely destroyed by her own actions.
She is just being nasty and stupid and cruel because she’s angry and she doesn’t know what that means for her yet. There’s no logic to it. This is just directionless self pity and impotent rage. I don’t know what that goober pretending to be her sister is up to, but she was becoming pretty terrible and full of rot even before that ghost showed up to haunt her. I’m afraid there is no plan, this is just who Lily is.
It’s clear she doesn’t understand what the Ssniperwolf situation is because the fundamental problem there is that she’s effectively replacing the need to watch the original videos and not crediting them. Here, Lily is still being credited which is a huge difference but also, response videos are not a replacement for her video. Sure these videos are deliberately playing her video, but that’s to both parties advantage as it allows whatever she said to be said in full context and not seem like the critic is manipulating the video to make her seem like she said something she didn’t. Plus, in these response videos, the viewing experience is not to replace Lily’s video because if I were to for whatever reason want to watch her video, I would just watch it and not circumvent it by watching it through the stream of a critic. Because that’s the fundamental question behind copyright and fair use, “is the video in question trying to replace the original video by unlawfully stealing another’s intellectual property”.
@@firewolf950tfwgaming7 well said
Another terminally online person doing harassment that is tantamount to an actual crime because they think "the internet's not real". Lily, you could get sued. Do you understand that snarky narcissism won't convince a jury?
Lily is only cementing the fact that she is a gormless worm
Keep up the good fight!
Lily feels like a woke character from the new norm.
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I find it Ironic that she (in her older content) has justified how venomous she is with personal insults with "Don't be an idiot when I'm criticizing you and I won't call you out on it..." and this is exactly what's happening to her.
Someone correct me if im wrong, but doesnt Lily have a post complaining that Sai pauses too much/talks over her, and therefore isn't listening to her points? Almost like she keeps changing the narrative to whatever suits her.
The H3H3 case isn't the only one to draw from. Lindsey Ellis and Sarah Z have both covered media and gotten retaliation from the authors, leading to very similar situations as this one. They even both made videos on their times going back and forth and how flagarantly worthless the cease and desists were.
She’s always been like this, going after critics for whatever she can to cover herself, or anything she really just doesn’t like because viscera’s her brand, and her brand she has become.
The only good call-out Lily has done that I recall-and to her credit, it was good that she did-was calling out a creep called Draco K-night Blaze for knowingly sharing NSFW material to a minor and ripping off artists by either taking and editing their work without credit or getting commission work done that he couldn’t pay for with his mom’s card (not sure if debit or credit).
Lily is being so childish, I'm surprised she's not violating herself.
Narcissists are always total manchildren (or in her case womanchild? Idk doesnt have the same ring to it, I’m gonna declare manchild to be gender neutral)
Just look at Andrew Tate, Donald Trump, and the Paul Brothers
She's into incest, not self-cest.
What she really can't stand is that we've entered a LO Critical Renaissance where multiple streamers are regularly calling her out on her weird, hypocritical takes and she can't stand looking like an idiot. It's pure ego, especially when all of you go out of your way to avoid talking about the worse stuff she's been accused of.
wow this is some scumbag behavior on lily's part hope moist Charlie talks about this
Lily doesn't understand media and she also doesn't understand the law.
She doesn't seem to understand much of anything.
I'm surprised she understands how to speak at this point
Why would she do something so stupid and evil
Because she has no social life.
Cause she's dumb like that. She's ALWAYS gotta be the victim.
@@vidmanandrew09 ok, she sucks
Her problems started when her parents conceived her.
Because she’s stupid and evil.
Streisand Effect 101, Lily.
It's not surprising given how much Lily moderates her comment section thoroughly and removes comments that criticize her or make any reasonable points.
Proof she didn’t actually watch the stream because if she did she’d make a real big deal about what I said in chat
Oh man now I’m really curious what did you say in the stream chat? (if you can remember of course)
Cuz now I feel kinda sad that she didn’t see whatever it was you said and the ensuing meltdown she would’ve had over it could’ve been absolutely hilarious
@@caimanthechimera679 I said something along the lines of “lily when she can’t hack ralts in to get past her sister’s bedroom door”
Too much dialogue. Too bad she can't use Calm Mind to boost her weak ego.
The irony in the name "Calm Mind" when Lily is neither calm or has a mind.
I'm here to support you in the algorithm, screw bigger creators harassing the smaller guys. I'm sorry you're going through this I'll watch your videos going forward.
I’m not sure where else to put this online but I’ve been thinking about it for awhile. I think if/when Lily falls off completely from all the BS that she pulls on a daily basis, she’s gonna make a big shift.
I’m calling it now that I think Lily will swing her and her remaining hardcore audience to a weird alt right grift once she’s realized no one on the left likes her at all anymore and that appealing (poorly) to them isn’t financially viable for her anymore.
I just hope her fans realize what type of person she really is before anything like that actually happens though.
Hope your issues with her blow over though man. I only recently found your channel but you’ve quickly grown to be a close favorite of mine for your analysis.
No I think she's too up her own ass for this.
Usually with people who "leave the left" they either sell out and abandon their leftist values or never actually believed anything to begin with.
For all her shitty and ragebait-y content Lily seems to be very genuine in her believes. She doesn't pretend to not get media for the sake of clicks she legit just doesn't get it. When I look at Lily I see someone who is too thick-headed and (let's be blunt) dunning-krueger-style stupid to ever become a grifter.
She'll just continue to dig her heels in deeper and insist people criticising her are all wrong, stupid, hateful and transphobic, not because she's disingenuous, but rather because that's the only way her mind can compute the criticism.
Honestly I can see this happening too, even when she’s trying to appeal to the left, she still kinda gives off these weird alt-right vibes sometimes, so I wouldn’t really be shocked if she just decides to double down on it once she figures out that everyone on the left isn’t falling for her BS anymore.
Lily doesn't live in reality. She finds any and every way to justify her own narrative and spin on reality to suit her needs because she can't come to terms with the real world. If she's proven wrong, she comes up with a new excuse to explain why she's right in the end. She's the type of person to say that she's okay with doing this kind of stuff to other people and expect no consequence. But when other people do it to her, it's suddenly a problem and requires copyright strikes to avoid criticism. It's honestly sad. Good luck with all of this. You'll need it.
Asking common sense of Orchard is WILD lmao
Lily Orchard can't take cirticism?!?
What a shock!
idk how you make inflammatory content to the degree she has and then get upset when people criticize her takes in turn.
she leads a life that sounds absolutely exhausting, I can't imagine omg
While YT's improvements to preventing Fraudulent claims from just killing channels is gonna save those Lily is attacking from losing their channels (though still likely to harm channel engagement since algorithm likely punishes having a strike) her insane misuse could result in her losing her's due to rules around it, but knowing YT staff such an action will require attention from big accounts to push proper punishments.
Also this case is once again her engaging with "anons" that are at least a super majority of cases are just her giving her more unfiltered opinions.
DOCUMENT EVERYTHING as other people in the comment section have said. It is absolutely in your best interests to have as much evidence as you need against her to both show her copyright strikes are unjustified, and also to help in case things escalate in lawsuit territory. I seriously don’t think Lily is actually will drag things out into court though, but evidence will protect your character and channel against whatever she tries to do to shut down her critics.
Has anyone looked into getting Lily some... professional mental help? A wellness check perhaps? Yikes. What a mess.
Her friend group doesn’t actually know how she is or ignores it. The latter includes her latest “wife” and even then she won’t listen to do that because she’s that stubborn. She’s claimed she has but like her supposed medical conditions and health issues that apparently sent her to the hospital, there’s enough inconsistencies that you can tell she’s spinning a world wrapped yarn on it.
@@Goleon yeah what on earth. I feel bad for her on one hand, but then on the other... Eugh. Definitely a case study if I've ever seen one.
@@Goleon Because anyone who tried to help her or confront her on her behavior she would immediately shun them away. Lily doesnt want help, and really doesnt deserve it.
@@g00bleck You can't help people who keep refusing to accept help or refuse to recognise they are doing something wrong unfortunately
Lily Orchard committing a Quantum TV.
Let’s be real here. It didn’t work, and it will won’t WORK again.
Several other UA-camrs have been also fought other people who tried the same thing and *failed*
Mass report Lily’s channel for false copyright strikes, and well.. it’s fucking illegal and can get you a good amount of prison time too c:
Unfortunately, it did work in a way
The Quantum TV shtick reached Susan Wojcicki herself and UA-cam's official stance was "we don't want to look like we ban people because UA-camrs tell us to" - simply because ActMan made a video with all the evidence
Quantum actually continued to harass and copyright strike lesser known youtubers such as MinxyOne, Garaa0ftheRage, and KingKlutzy
The only reason he even stopped was the lawsuit about illegal detainment and abuse filed by his wife
Lily seems to be used to people just rolling over when she does this stuff.
I have a feeling it's going to take someone actually calling her bluff and taking her to court for her to learn her lesson (if that will even teach it to her. She feels brain dead enough to then make a 6 hour retrospective of the legal system and claim how it's full of abusers or something)
What is funniest about this situation is that the guys from the We Are Mot Alive channel (the professional writers she mentions) are literally doing professionally what she could only dream pf doing and are actually quite good at it