Leave that cat OUTSIDE!
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- Опубліковано 2 жов 2024
- Today a feral cat I TNRed was almost euthanized because someone didn't know not to bring her to the shelter. Here's my four-minute rant about why if you find an eartipped cat, you should leave them OUTSIDE!
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Omg thank you. My mom and I were taking a bike ride and freindly cats were just following us around so we stopped to pet them and my mom was like do you think we should take them to a shelter and I was like no I watched this video and it told people not to take cats with ear tips cliped because of what it means and she was really surprised. So thank you Kitten Lady for making this video! =^.^=
cool!
So glad you knew.
THIS SHOULD BE SPREAD AROUND THE NEWS. Seeing nobody with a massive following or news channels, etc, talk about this just makes it worse. I know way more than the average about cats, ferals, TNRing, yet I didnt know this. We as a country (America in this cause) should be doing so much more to help these cats. I mean even dogs and pit bulls have way more rescues and a huge following behind them to help make a difference in a population and how they're treated. So where is that for cats? I think thats why I look up to Hannah so much bc she's using her audience for the sake of these amazing animals.
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Mandeh Hunt. Anyone who shouts to the world they know way more than anyone else about something doesn't. Your a perfect example. We began TNR 30 yrs ago,t was VERY controversial at the time. Yet u knew nothing about it. U need to (I'll be polite) be quiet & read more. Lots more. Your 💖 in the right place though.
Anna Starr- I believe that Mandeh Hunt knows more than average about cats. I've never heard of the TNR program to begin with! I always thought cats with jagged ears were just.... cats with jagged ears! The point is that this is not a well-known project, and it should really be publicized more.
She needs to be quiet? Her claim that she knows more than average wasn't the point of her comment. You singled that out. The point she was making was that feral cats aren't talked about enough, which I agree with. I'd say that I know the average amount about feral cats, and I was under the impression before watching this video that the best thing to do was always to try to rescue them, which it turns out is completely false. So this is absolutely something that should be talked about on the news and such, as most people unfortunately likely won't see videos like this.
+Kristy Kelly Yep, as much as I love cats, in Australia, killing ferals is the only realistic option to protect endangered wildlife in some places. They're an invasive species, wiping out entire native species. Maybe it's not such a problem in the US because they already have large predators, whereas in Australia cats and foxes and dogs have no native predator to match, so nothing is eating them, and the little natives aren't prepared for them. I'm worried that people buying kittens off Gumtree and not having them spayed is contributing to the problem. It should be illegal to sell or give away an un-neutered/spayed cat to someone, unless they are a registered breeder. And even when spayed /neutered, keep your cat indoors (or in a cat run).
We found a cat outside, that is friendly. She started to stay at our house, so we fed her and gave her water. After getting her spayed, and all of her vaccinations, we tried to bring her inside, and she HATED it. So, we just let her be outside, and we leave our garage cracked open a little bit, so she has the access to food and water. (She didn't have a clipped ear).
Nice! :)
Micky My cat was completely opposite. She was also friendly, but did not have a clue ear. She came right up to us as a very under weight four month old and after I brought her to the vet and inside, she absolutely hates when I try to bring her outside!
Same😺
Micky That’s Very Very Very Nice Of You That Touched My Heart ❣💜😃😄
ive done that
Wow, that’s why two of my cats have the missing ear tip. I literally thought it was genetic One came from our shelter, the other was a stray we took in. I didn’t even notice the ear thing when we got her.
I found my cat beat and scratched and bleeding but alive on the side of the road. My family and I brought her home had her vaccinated and no she lives a perfectly healthy life.
thank god you found her. you were the angel sent to help her. she is blessed and so are you.
Thank god
And bless you for ur kindnesses
We have a cat who is currently around 9 years old and we have him because nine hours ago we were riding bikes and saw a little black cat probably six months old and my dad said no we can't keep him so we fed him and let him back outside aaaaaaaannnnnnnndddddddd he jumped through an open window in our house later that day and fell asleep on my parents bed. We still have him to this day
Years not hours sorry
That's cute and funny. Smart kitty knew what bed to pick. (plus your dad is a good guy for letting you keep him) :) Wonder who left the window open???? lol
Cats are like wands; you don't choose them, they choose you :)
Haha lol
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I didn't want to adopt mine haha. She just strutted her stuff in the house behind my dog. I put her out and she climbed my screens till I let her back in with my dog. now they are inseparable and apparently I have a cat. she was tipped too so if she ever does want out I let her but honestly I think she loves having a human to wait on her hand and foot haha. we have other tipped kitties in the neighborhood that are everywhere from very very feral to the ones who will come up and curl on your lap for a bit if you are sitting outside. I take in as many as I can to get tipped and then I bring em back and let em out. no need leaving em out there to make more if I can help it.
My Treasured Rose ~Damn right. Doing the Best you can. You show it so d’uh simply. ThanQ.
I almost always enjoy the “So apparently I have a cat now?” Stories.
Really great to hear that you’re all getting along and helping other cats you find.
Why do shelters euthanize eartipped cats instead of saying to the person who brought them in, hey, that cat was fine outside, go put it back where you found it.
thenormalstate most people think it's just a cat and the shelter people don't really think much of it.
The Michigan Human Society in my state doesn't euthanize animals for some reason. They get moved from Shelter to sheter in the state.
my local shelter don't euthanize the cats
thenormalstate Because they want business.... It makes me mad
In the case of the shelter I work at, it's a liability issue. If someone admits an animal, they're giving the responsibility to the shelter. But we don't just have a responsibility to the animal, we are also responsible to the public. If we place cats back out into the community and it injures a person or their pet, we're held liable. If we just put a cat outside and don't know what colony they're from, it could cause issues with other feral cats or local wildlife. That all comes back to us. We operate on donations so public opinion means everything. However, if the admitter is willing to take the animal back into their custody and accept responsibility of releasing the cat back to their community, great! We also have a TNR program that people can bring ferals through, and also program for barn cats so we can help some lesser socialized cats have a better chance if they're officially admitted to us.
3:02 Little correction: You are actually reducing their chances by about 50%, not only 15%. You need to put 33% and 18% in relation, the total 100% are irrelevant for this calculation. This of course makes Kitten Lady's argument even stronger and more valid.
Your post is confusing.
Last Christmas we adopted an ear tipped cat from the local animal shelter. According to the papers she was there about a year. Of coarse my son chose her-overweight, no tail and ear tipped. She has turned out to be the most fantastic, loving cat we've every had! She snuggles with everyone in the house, gets along with the dogs and pretty much owns us. lol
Wow! A year is a long time for a cat to have to be in a shelter! Thank you for getting her out of there!!
Turns out if a certain volunteer veterinarian spays/neuters the cats at the county shelter they automatically tip the ears-no mater how they got to the shelter 🤷🏻♀️
I took in an ear tipped cat that lived in my neighborhood in Jersey City. She walked up to me after I came home from a car accident and rubbed on my leg. I took her in and she was the most loving graceful cat I had ever met in my entire life she lived with me for 4 years. Unfortunately she always needed to go outside because she wanted to hunt and I could never keep her inside but I never thought much about it. A couple months ago she was hit by a car in front of my house and I was absolutely heartbroken. My mother and I cremated her and I began rescuing kittens born from a community cat nearby by taking them in when they were 8 weeks old, taking them to the vet, socializing each one, and personally find a home to bring them straight to rather than bringing them to a shelter. I somewhat feel I'm doing it for that little feral cat that slept on my face every night for the past 4 years 😂 And now I have two kittens from that litter that are absolutely adorable and loving ❤️
So sorry about your loss. It's so hard when they get hit by a car :(
I have the same situation...It's like you just told my lifestory
you are a very dear person. you did the right thing for your kitty. animals also need love which you gave her. not all cats can be or want to be left outside. trust your gut and your heart. you did a wonderful thing. keep up the good work. gods work.
i am so sorry for the loss of your furry child.
youre not sorry. you left a pic of your dead cat for me to see,. you evil witch.go to hell where you belong.@@ToriC524
Thanks for this video Kitten Lady, a LOT of people don't know about TNR programs or other feral cat programs such as barn ferals and as such are ignorant or even outright hostile about them. To people reading this, no these cats are not suitable for pet life as much as we all wish that was the end goal for every cat out there. The best thing you can do for them is educate yourself on what TNR is and what it isn't and be both realistic and informed. I say all this as a massive cat lover, but sterilizing these cats and preventing further kittens from the population not only helps save their lives it also lessens their impact on the environment. Also as someone who has found a lifelong companion in the gutter as a kitten, that's a very interesting and good statistic to know about the shelters vs streets (tho I think we can work to bring those numbers of shelter adoptions up some way!) Thanks as always for the information, Kitten Lady!
Oh I'm definitely not saying that feral rehabilitation can't be done, you're right. But I disagree that it can be done with all, or even most of them(though there really isn't any research I know of on overarching feral cat behavior so that's speculation on both our parts really). And you're right in that it takes a very dedicated and understanding owner to do that with a cat and that more often than not the cat is probably going to end up right where it started, outside and having undergone a tumultuous experience at best. I don't think you're wrong completely and of course feral cats cover a spectrum of personalities but it's important to be realistic with ferals. It's just not always a simple case of "if I pet it enough it will undo it's feralness".
Spaying and neutering ferals also gives them medical benefits beyond just reducing population such as reduced risks of cancers, ect so sometimes it really is the most caring thing you can do for them when home life isn't an option.
(Basically I'm saying you're right, I shouldn't have spoken in absolutes because feral rehabilitation is possible in some cases for people who realize they probably aren't going to be cuddly lap cats, but for /a lot/ of these cats, TNR is the best way they can be tended to en mass until either someone does decide to take a crack at rehabilitation, or they live out the rest of their lives without contributing to kitten numbers outdoors)
I admit I don't know much about balance issues cats face after clipping, I haven't heard any research on that myself so I can't speak to that but I definitely know a cat doesn't mind what its ears look like as long as they are functional. I imagine far worse looking incidents happen during the course of street life. If the snip is done small enough, I feel like it wouldn't cause serious issues? But again, I am ignorant on that particular issue and I'm sure there definitely are issues with maybe certain programs taking off more than is necessary. Regardless, I figure being put through the trapping process again and even maybe potentially being put under the knife again if a spay scar isn't seen in time (which I have known to happen) would be a lot more stressful on the animal than a snip of the ear. It's also important (though admittedly challenging) not to anthropomorphize the cat too much, if it's living outside it's going to get some bumps and scrapes and all things considered, a tip of an ear is a very, very minor thing it's not going to agonize over like we might if our ear was damaged.
The biggest problem with earrings or tags is that they could fall off or perhaps even get stuck somewhere or ripped out which would definitely hurt the cat more than a small snip, and defeating the purpose of being an indicator of going through TNR. The ear cropping is meant to be permanent because that way there is no risk and the cat can be left alone in peace at that point which in my opinion is the far more humane way to treat it.
That sounds excessive to me too, unfortunately I wonder how many cats and spay / neuters shelters go through and if they maybe get a little quick with the snips just to move the process along. There are a Lot of cats out there as we know so it's hard to say. But if his hearing is working and the cut was clean then I'm sure the little guy doesn't lose any sleep over it. Thank you for taking care of him though! I'm sure he's much more upset about not getting fed, poor thing :(
Everybody has the right to breathe clean air. I took a feral cat for TNR in Austin a few years back and I didn't notice any balance issues but they only took maybe a 1/8 inch off her one ear. Honestly it changed her life. She lived in our backyard for almost a year and used to never let us within two arm lengths of her but within 3 days of releasing her back she would wind around our legs to beg for food. She occasionally even begs to be petted.
He sounds like a precious boy aw haha. Thank you though for feeding him, not only for his sake yes but for the wildlife around him as well. You're doing good by a lot of animals there.
I've never been the adopter. I've always been the adoptee. Some cat just marches into the house, looks around & says, "This is good enough. Now, feed me, slave."
Paws, who had so many toes & claws just showed up one day. So I fed him, a little later, the neighbor's kid, Tommy showed up, & said, that's my cat." And carried him off.
The next day Paws showed up again. I fed him & he staid the rest of his life. Evidently he made it quite clear to Tommy, that he wasn't HIS cat.
paws knew who loved and cared for him and it wasn't tommy. paws knows who his mommy is.
We found an eartipped cat when we were on holiday (not that far away from home, so the car ride back was not too bad) and when we were the that cat was very friendly and even came in with us into our aparzment there, so we brought him home with us and now he has already been a loved and loving family member for about 9 years
We just picked up a stray and are bringing them to our vet today. They are so friendly and so cute. Yes we will be adopting them.
We named them cheeseburger because we found them trying to eat our food delivery lol.
I have a "stray" cat outside my house that we feed and give water and basically lives on our back porch, she has her own little bed we made for her. She has this ear tip and I never knew why and now I do.... wow.... I thought it was just caught in something or got in a fight. We almost took her to a shelter but she was very sweet so she stuck around and is now our cat, just our outdoor cat ❤️ Thanks for this video
You do not find the cat. The cat finds you. :D
At least the ones that want to adopt you as theirs.
Snarky McSne That makes since because when i was 8 my cat ran away for two weeks then one night he came back to us!
Shelby V :-) they need all the help they can get. Thank you.
If the cat is willing to live inside you should allow it to.
just because she has a eartip does not mean you should not bring her in and make her a part of your family.cats need love like everyone else. strays make beautiful and loving furry childre and should never be excluded because someone clipped their ear. do what feeld right to you. the kitty might well decide it wants a home.there is endless danger outside. every one deserces a home.
Hm, all of my family's cats have been random outdoor finds ... so this kinda makes sense.
Yeah same here, my own cat was an outdoor kitten I took him in.
Jeremy Browand same!
@Jeremy Yeah, mine too. I still consider them 'rescues' because they were, literally, rescued. Me and shelters don't get along...
Sameee, my brother found these two cats outdoors
This isn't helpful
I found a cat 2 years ago on the street and now he's my cuddle buddy every night
Excellent subject for your videos, Kitten Lady ! People need to know this to prevent these cats, who DO have a home, from being killed ! Community cats deserve to live out their lives !
We brought home an ear tipped junior, and I got alarmed seeing this video's title. Now that Ive watched it, I now know we did no harm. The kitten was cold and thin, and we adopted it for ourselves.
Still, the video was really educational, and was discussed very respectfully. I love videos like this as much as the cute ones.
Keep up the good work Hannah! You inspire us all, and we love the work you put for these little friends of ours.
There's a neighborhood cat that comes by my house every night at 11, usually to nibble on my catnip plants. During the heat wave, I left fresh water out for him. My indoor cat is the one that takes care of him though. She'll wait for him in the window, and when she sees him, they just sit and stare at each other for a few minutes. My cat looks forward to it everyday. He didn't come tonight, and she's still waiting for him. 💔
Let him in
TheNamelessName our neighbours cat also sits in front of our door, we have to young cats and dogs and he smells their food and likes our pets,
He seems very bored and his coat does not shine but he’s normal weight
God damn that is so precious. I’m crying lol I have a little Grey kitty outside of my apartment and I’ve been feeding him for a week now. I think it’s time to let him in :)
@@pattyleabo426 _let him in._
Give us an update please! It's been two years though (-_-) Hope it did turn out fine in the end *fingers crossed*
If you want to rescue a cat, take it home. I took my cat from the streets, not from a shelter. Well, actually she came to us. Poor baby was only skin and bones but now, one year later, she's a healthy, happy, mother of two beautiful little babies.
Please get your kitty spayed!
WannaBeANerd It's possible that they might spay the cat after it's had those 2 kittens. Many people get their cats spayed after they've had their first litter of kittens because they want more cats.
If they want more cats, go to the shelters and adopt. Assuming that this cat was already pregnant when they rescued her.
Down here, the claim is "if you don't let a cat have a litter of kittens first, she'll get FAT if you get her fixed!!!" They also throw fits if you suggest that they get their animals fixed "How dare you suggest I take away her womanhood/his manhood!!!!"
It's all pure ignorance... and then when their kitty gets pregnant, they drop it off in some poor neighborhood, expecting the people there to take care of it (while belittling the people they discard their kitty on).
We have several kittens we need to find homes for, because of the drop-off problem - and animal control is well aware of the issue (someday I hope to catch the people in the act, so we can have them arrested). We also have too many cats we've rescued and kept because until the state cracked down, the organizations in this county was bad about killing cats and kittens without good reason (they wouldn't even TRY to re-home them).
There are a lot of ignorant people like that out there - they think it's only fair for their cat to have the chance of motherhood just that one time. The brutal fact is that even if they find homes for all the kittens, that means that the same number of kittens in shelters will then not be adopted and may need to be euthanized. it's far kinder overall to just spay/neuter your kitten as soon as it's old enough. No responsible rescue would ever adopt out a cat that hadn't been fixed - they're the ones who have to deal with the heartbreak of having to euthanize perfectly healthy animals because people don't fix their cats and there aren't enough homes to go round
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My stray baby just had kittens under my shed before I could spay her, someone (and her babies) are going to get fixed when they're old enough
I adopted an ear tipped cat I found outside and I was afraid when I started watching this video that I'd done something wrong...glad I was one of those two situations it was ok. She's happy and healthy with us now!
Same!!
I had one of these cats follow me home last weekend. I brought her inside because we were expecting a tropical storm. She’s super friendly and she loves being indoors now. She even knows to use the litter.
She might have been a stray rather than a feral; strays have usually had an owner before where as ferals have never lived with humans
Same here, mine was pawing at my door during a cold blast last week. Very friendly and knew how to use the litter box right away. She even jumps up on my bed when its sleep time and kicks back like a human. She has made herself at home right away, I think she's domestic med or long hair.
I fed and cared for two feral cats for years. They were also part of trap, neuter rescue program. They did just fine living in my yard, and I bought them a little house that they could sleep in because they were too scared to come inside my house. I miss those two kitties....yeah, they were skittish about human contact, but they had their own ways of being loving. Eventually, I built some trust with them, and they got to live out their kitty lives.
Thank you so much for explaining about cats that have their ear tips cut.
cats can also lose their ears to the extreme and bitter cold . it's called frostbite.
I adopted an ear tipped cat and she's such a good cat! We love her so much!
that message is highly specific to which country you are in. here in Australia, cats without owners are reeking havoc on our native birds (mostly parrots) and small marsupials. so the opposite is true here: if you want to protect animals, take cats off the street.
Discoloured Buttflaps "wreaking" not "reeking". TNR.
Good point, there are a lot of places where TNR isn't viable because even if cats are neutered, they cannot be rereleased because of the harm they would do to endangered populations. There are many islands where cats are considered an invasive species.
@@sophierobinson2738 Actually, both reeking and wreaking are acceptable grammatically.
@@GMW.artist , no, they have different meanings. They are both participles and the same parts of speech, but they MEAN two different things.
Unfortunately this is actually true across most countries with feral cats. TNR is still the best non-extermination tactic to control feral cat populations since they limit the number of reproductive individuals, but it’s still a huge problem worldwide :/
Thank you Hannah. You are so good at educating. People so often mean well but don’t understand the consequences.
sadly, there is no NTR program here.. although where I live, indonesia, there are TONS of stray cats. like, they're literally everywhere and it pains me that I can't do much because I'm still staying with parent and she doesn't like them. there are so much of them in the street.
She's so smart and well spoken!!! So glad I watched this so I know better now
I adopted an ear tipped cat and she was the best thing that ever happened to me
Chella T. But can release the cat in the wild
Janet Gonzalez what???
Chella T.
Good for you. They can be wonderful and very friendly.
Same, he's not as affectionate as most cats, (which is probably bc he was severely neglected as a kitten) but I still love him
Me to. My cat so sweet and very clinging to me. She is my third child. She also gives me kisses. I adopted my ear tiped cat from petsmart
When I was a kid we couldn’t afford to spay and neuter our cats and let me tell you kittens are hard to find homes for we ended up taking the kittens to shelters many times I hated it now I have 3 cats and I spay and neuter them having a kitten maybe nice but a lot of shelter cats need homes I got my cat Yvette from a shelter she was surrendered with kittens at 2 years old and went to a adoption event where I took her home she is one of the sweetest cat I’ve had she is now 7 years old living a comfortable indoor cat life
Love this! Very important to know, I've had 9 cats in my life all of whom my family and I picked up off the street and got them all spayed and neutered. All of them lived happy lives with us. Now we are caring for a community cat, we TNR'd him and now we just feed him every time he comes by! Love your work kittenlady and you inspire me with your work to keep caring for cats, both friendly and feral ❤️❤️❤️
Firstly I agree. Just needed to say that those percentages might not mean what you think they mean. If the percentage is from the total number of cat's sharing houses with people, you really need to compare the number of cats with the total number of feral cats and the total number of cats in shelters to be able to say whether or not is more or less likely for them to be rescued. Cheers.
if you have found a cat outside who seems very friendly and you want to know if they are strays or if someone has lost a valued pet, especially if you are outside the USA where ear tipping might not be used, call your vet and explain you've found a friendly cat, but don't want it taken to a shelter. Most vets will allow you to bring in a found pet, scan it for you, and if they have no chip, let you take it home. It's...not always legal, in some places, but vets are very aware of how likely a cat is to be euthanised in a shelter and will often much rather you took an unchipped cat home with you than do what they are meant to and send it to the shelter. I've done this many times, and it's helped lost friendly cats get back to where they need to be.
Thank you so much for both your efforts and this information. I wasn't aware that most vets will scan them for free. That is great to know.
***** it absolutely is free. Vets mostly want to help animals. Just call in advance to check.
It makes perfect sense, of course, they would want to help animals and that is something they already likely have the equipment for. But I had never thought of it and now I have a new tool in my kit when offering advice and help to others as well!
I'm pretty sure killing animals without a reason like sickness is forbidden in my country (Germany). That aside, I have also never seen a stray cat that I could bring to a shelter
Thank you. If someone had done this for us, our cat would be alive :(
Microchipping definitely needs to be done more! I'm sad that he's gone, but at least we have closure, and I can only imagine how many people have their pets disappear and have no idea what happened.
Thank you for posting this! I think the problem is that a lot of well-meaning people think they are doing the right thing by taking the cat to the shelter. I can see where the confusion comes from, as some friendly ear-tipped cats ARE someone's pet. I know several who were ear-tipped through a TNR program and they were found to like people and ended up being fostered and adopted. It could be this person thought they were helping someone's pet by taking it to the shelter, where they thought it would be safe until its owner got there. Thank goodness you had this one microchipped!
Thanks for the video it helped a lot. When I was younger me and my siblings found a young cat with a clipped ear (we didn’t know what that meant at the time and thought it was hurt) and we gave it some food and water but it didn’t like the shelter we provided for her. We named her pepper after her appearance and noticed she was hurt she had a little eye infection was limping and had something stuck to her stomach. We left her as an outdoor cat and fed her until one day she was gone. A few days later we saw the cat clean and healthy in the window of someone’s home. We were planning on taking her to a nearby shelter/vet, but I’m glad we didn’t. Thanks to you I know now not to take an outdoor or clipped cat to a shelter. Thanks! Love your videos!
My cat was wild. He is very sweet and loves people! We would let them in and out and soon enough they started to refuse to leave. So we got him all his shots and stuff and now he is as happy as ever living with us! We don't know how old he is. But Kitty Boy is our cat and my family wouldn't be the same without our sweet angel from above.
Thank you for educating us!! I didn't know about the ear-tipping.
Im guessing the shelters are not allowed to put a cat back on the streets?
How do you have so many feral cats and abandoned kittens in America! I live in London and have never seen a feral cat or abandon kittens in my life (40 years).
Paul Keating irresponsible people running about leaving unspayed/unneutured animals
Pretty much that, I researched rates of feral cats and abandoned kittens in the US and it turns out there are entire communities of people who have never taken their pets to a vet. Why? Can't afford it. So imagine an entire community of people with unspayed pets...yeah...
(Also, fellow Londoner here. I think I've only ever met one feral or unsocialised cat in the city.)
Paul Keating try living in Indonesia, dude. there are everywhere here sadly.
Have you seen America? There's a lot more space between people, a lot more wooded areas, a lot more places to hide than in London.
if they can't afford it, dont have a fucking "pet" thats like purposely adopting a human child while not having the money to get them vaccines or necessary things.
18% of owned cats are from a shelter, 33% of owned cats are taken off the street. That doesn't mean you're putting cats at a disadvantage of ownership by taking them to a shelter
one of my bfs ex coworkers dad is a vet and he let us have an all black altered feral cat. it’s been two years now and i love him with all my heart and so does my other cat. 🖤 i’m glad they love eachother and get along well
Our previous cat was an ear-tip we found in the shelter, and he was the most loving, wonderful kitty-boy we could want. He had been there about 9 months. I don't know if the shelter folks didn't recognize he was TNR, or how long he'd been outside (the vet put his age at 7-9 years).
Oh yes, our 9 years old cat was a litter from outside. His mom just walked into my friend's house and started to give birth. Then the whole neighborhood took one kitten each, after they're on solid food. And neuter and spay every cat in the litter.
I would also add that in many urban areas, there are cat colonies that exist to keep the rodent population in check such as in many Chicago neighborhoods. Many of the cat colonies also have designated "housing" that has been setup by groups or rescues that came together to do do this.
I live in Chicago, on the North side, and have been feeding, not only an ear-tipped cat we named Shelly but sometimes a tuxedo cat we call Guapo or 'handsome' too. They have cut down on the rat population, and both cats are fat. Shellyisthe outside cat who sleeps in the house we bought for her.
I grew up farming-I love those cat colonies!
They may not really belong to people, but it's important to let them be.
Same thing here in New York. I think they may be chipped as well so that they can be tracked.
What?! I had no idea there was such a program. And I always thought cats whose ears looked like that were just raggedy cats. I am so glad you posted this video!
I trapped a 6 months old kitten. I didn’t know he was 6 months at the time, I thought he was at least 1 years old. I took him to the vet for a TNR. He came home with me and I was going to release him when the anesthesia wore off. I let him go free in my bathroom so I could clean the trap. I put the trap back in the bathroom and he got on top of it and slept there. I had been feeding and talking to this cat for 2 months. He remembered my scent. He started rubbing against me and wanted me to pick him up. I decided to keep him. His ear is tipped. He lived his whole life outside in my apartment complex. My theory is since he was the runt of his litter, he is a lot more friendly. I love him and he’s my lil baby now.
This is an important video! I got followed home by a cat and we noticed it’s ear was tipped. It’s super friendly and gonna be a new addition to my home. I had no idea this was a thing! I thought maybe it was hurt in a fight. Thanks SO much for this valuable information!!!!!
Where I live we have cold winters, that's when I become concerned with the outdoor cats. Friendly or not.
Mikey Mike cats are very tough and good at finding warm places, but if you
Are very worried you can buy or DIY warm shelters and put them in place the cats can find.
I make shelters for cats in my area! It keeps them dry and warm!
I found my cat in my garbage outside.............
you say your cat so it is no doubt living with you now and that means that little guy was saved by an angel and you found yours. well done.
All but one of our cats were found outside, but they were all kittens at the time. The oldest was maybe 8 weeks and had a nasty upper respiratory infection. Now she is a spoiled calico princess.
We have all tnr’d cats in my mom’s neighborhood and rehomed them to local farms where they can use their hunting skills, but still have food and shelter.
Where I live is mostly rural and very small towns (1000-12000 people). It’s hard to find homes for house cats here. I’m glad we can do a small bit to help.
Yes this makes so much sense all my babies and fosters are random outdoor finds! My main resident kitty followed my daughter in our home and she's been with us ever since!! 7 years now
I FULLY agree with you on this but I DO have a question. The massive amount of community cats in certain places is leading to a lot of needlessly preyed upon wild life (IE birds) and that is a huge problem. Is there ANY way to weave TNR and watching out for wild life into a system that works? Bc I fully agree, feral/ear tipped cats SHOULD NEVER BE BROUGHT to a shelter. Idk if I am making sense, it's just been on my mind for a while now.
I had no idea about TNR till now this video was extremely helpful :)
I generally agree with all of the points in this video, but it really does disadvantage those cats who are ear tipped and someone's pet. If they are never picked up, they'll never get back to their owner. My rescue group always chips the ear tipped cats we adopt out so they will be recognized as a pet. Not sure if we chip the TNR cats either, but it sounds like we should.
I think so....Like in Hannah's case, if they are chipped they can be brought back to the neighborhood/community where they are from. And at the same time the shelter may have the name and # of the person who brought the TNR'd kitty in so that person can be informed not to trap it again. Only so much trauma a kitty should have to endure.
It's the owner's responsibility to microchip and collar their pet if it can get outside, or if they let it outside. The one in a million chance that an eartipped cat is really a lost domesticated pet isn't worth endangering all the other ones who might be feral and not microchipped after TNR.
At the risk of playing devil's advocate, microchipping every TNR cat would be an added expense that would reduce the money available to help a greater number of cats. Ear clipping is a visual indicator that serves both purposes, assuming the shelter workers are aware of the ear clipping protocol. They could see a cat with clipped ear, check for a scar from neutering, check for a chip and immediately explain to the person bringing it in, "This cat appears to already be a desexed feral." and ask if they want to surrender it to the shelter anyway or return it.
A quick google indicates that microchipping costs around 45 dollars and that a standard TNR costs about 50 to 60 dollars in total. Even assuming the vets would donate the time to implant the chip while the cat was under for desexing and to register the cat in the database, there would still be materials costs. So while it is ideally a good idea to chip as well as ear clip, it might or might not be practical and cost effective.
If it is viable, it would be wonderful, though. It sure couldn't hurt to advance the idea in your rescue group (and heartfelt thanks and respect for that, by the way.), however.
My cat was found outside and brought to a girl and I saved her she was one of four found on the street and the other two were sick my brother got one too. I’m so happy to have them I’m snuggling her as I watch this video
I got my kitty from work! I worked at a vet hospital and a student came in my lab one day with the biggest snuggler cat! She followed me EVERYWHERE and wouldn't eat unless I stayed in the room with her. Very clingy! She came in to be spayed, that's how they teach students, and SHE adopted ME!
I took in 2 TNR cats, not realizing that's what they were... took them in to be spayed and was so happy I didn't have to neuter another cat. They both have visual problems but are now sleeping indoors
SammyJo CatLady That is so great if you. It is especially important that cats find homes when they start having health problems, such as vision problems, so I'm very glad that your little ones found you.
I had 3 outside. Cats. The first two lived at the same house outside. They’re pretty mean so we fed them and left them alone. When we moved our neighbors who had a farm start taking care of them. Once this person at McDonald’s said there was a dead black cat outside and both of our cats are black so we thought it was ours because we couldn’t find that cat. So we buried it...
Then one day when my sister was getting out the car she screamed zombie cat! Then we realized the cat we buried wasn’t ours .
The other cat that was outside was white. Unlike the previous two it was a boy. One day we were in a pool and we saw him under a shed( this was at our house). So we fed him. When we moved my parents brought him in a box which you should never EVER do.
Once we were walking to school and he followed us. My mom got him tho.
Once we were getting out of the car and he was on top of the tree. He was jumping down branch to branch. That’s why I called him ninja cat.
Thanks to the people who took care of him when my family moved.
Learned something new. I mostly just feed the ferals and never have taken strays to animal shelter ( never crossed my mine and unaware.) Good to know and great video.
Thank you for this information! I had no idea. Knowledge is power! Knowledge can save a life!
We have 1 that went thru the TNR Program when she was young 2-3 yrs old ..she is feral seems to live a nice life here ...Going on 30 years old and still looks good ...
i alwazs rescue kittens
my family love cats
i had cats whole life
my mum sometimes get annoyed she say we have too many cats
but me and my dad always keep that kitty so she start to love it
👍🤔 exploiting the mother-instinct is pretty clever
i used to think taking them to shelters was better bc they’d be fed & everything. ive also come across a couple cats with missing ear tips but i thought it was an injury 😅 never knew this was a thing
I'll bring them all in my house 😻 I've always wanted a kitty cat sanctuary
Bless you for your work
I've just met my first tipped cat! I shared this video with someone who was concerned about them. They are ok with people walking close, but not lingering to close. They have an important job and they own themselves.
there is a cat in my neighborhood that is heavily pregnant and there is another one who is not neutered. neither have to collars and I haven't seen either recently, what should I do?
TNR! Watch my video "How to Trap a Cat for TNR."
Caroline Hartmann chances are the pregnant one has given birth. Mommas usually stay with their kittens for a week (I think) before going out to find food.
in what way was that meant
you sould take the cat to the animal shelter
Theres nothing you can do if you cant find them
I love the term "community cat". But I do worry about leaving those cats to live outside, not for their safety as much as the safety of native wildlife. I do think that TNR programs are an important step in managing feral cat populations, but I feel like it's at a cost to othher wildlife. How can we find a happy medium?
Melissah B. The cats can be in danger from loose dogs, coyotes, hawks with the wee ones, cars, etc. I spent an entire summer gaining the trust of a feral. Paid off. Sweetest girl and didn't want back out. Amazingly healthly, no fleas, worms or earmites.
They’re animals
We can't, TNR is the closest there is to a happy medium between doing nothing and outright attempting to exterminate them.
it's true, sadly until the population ages out without any new additions the only other option is extermination. the hope is that they can TNR the current population to prevent new generations and to get negligent pet owners to spay/neuter their pets and keep them indoors.
Melissah B. I completely agree with you leaving cats outdoors has case planty of keystone bird species to become endangered cause repercussions on the ecosystem. Though I don't see the harm in Washington DC since most wildlife has already been driven out because of the city. But I don't think this system could work for places with more diversity in bird life as the environment should be protected. Yes a couple of 100 cats die but those cats are predators that can cause endangerment of other species that will never be able to revive again.
Hannah, here in Canada, a lot of stray cats and outdoor cats get frost bite on the tips of their ears and lose the tips. In my area they dont tip the ear as part of the TNR program, they notch it instead.
as i live very close to canada i can tell you you are so right. people need to know thee are several reasons cats eartips are gone.
Although it may take more time than a feral kitten, some feral cats can be socialized over time with love and kindness. Instead of taking them to a shelter (completely foreign environment), fostering feral cats is an option but requires patience. Once the wall of distrust disappears, a former feral cat can be bonded strongly to you and other potential adopters. Encase the cat becomes bonded to you and no one else, you need to accept that the cat has now adopted you.
i got mine three years ago she ran in and never left/Took her to the vet right away,she is the most loving kiity!
I adopted a cat with a left ear tip from the Humane Society who had been injured and brought in by the animal control officer. I picked her out because I wanted to adopt a black cat. But you're right though , I don't think anyone else would have adopted her because she spent all of her time hiding. I've had Lilith for a year now and I can tell that she finally trusts me but it took time.
these things do take time but the reward is a beautiful fur baby to love.
yup good video we actually adopted our cat from outside (well actually she adopted us lol) even though we never planned to have one
i think these types of cats kinda choose what owner they want anyway and not the other way around haha
cats feel energy and recognize some one they can bond with. so it will seem this way .
agree. same with mine. and he was truly feral. it took months to even touch him but he still showed an interest in bonding and was the one who approached me. now he’s a happy lap cat living inside :)
Great video that explains everything about TNR.
I had a cat in my neighbourhood that would stop by my yard and stare at my kittens inside. They didn't exactly roll out the welcome wagon, but she kept coming back. She was very small, so I assumed she was a kitten someone had lost or abandoned. I got her to start eating in my garage, and eventually brought her inside. Turned out she was not only not spayed or microchipped, but she was also around 2 years old! My mom took her in at her house, where there was more room. She loves people, but just needs some socializing time with other cats lol. We had no plans on extending our feline family, but we are glad she's with us now and she loves her new home :)
This is great advice. I was really struggling on what to do with a friendly community cat. Thank you for your feline wisdom!
i am going to have a male kitten tomorrow😊
some one aww I want a cat too😍
i used a application named OLX
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Have fun with it😸❤️
Thank you all and btw i foster the kitten
PREACH!!!
Some very good points. Thank you.
I found my cat on the street. she's feral but she's always kept indoors and is the sweetest thing in the world
Jeez, i saw this video right after you and that very young kitten video that was just 'lovely'...this video shows your competence and seriousness about this.
I HIGHLY love what you do...i still learn new sht every day. Thank you.
I totally agree with you👍🏻
But what if they just got hurt and their ear is like that
It usually will not be a clean cut in that case.
Shelby C. The tom I adopted had a tip but he was from Greece and ill at that time. So I guess he got into some trouble.
Manic Jamiera Cat That doesn't answer my question. Read more carefully.
Check if they're neutered. And if you aren't sure, trap them and take them to a vet, just to make sure they're healthy. Then just let them go :)
@@shelbyc.5155 take them to a vet to ensure theyve been neutered or spayed
Some communities don't clip the ear-tip but instead place a blue or green tattoo in the ear.
Its also important to note that feral cat colonies tend to be somewhat territorial and have relatively stable numbers. Remove cats from the colony and new cats move in to fill the territorial openings - resulting in increased infighting as new individuals fight to obtain the right to the space and try to carve out new boundaries with their neighbors - which leads to more feral cat injuries. Setting off a long and problematic cycle of cats being removed for injuries bringing in new cats to fill their places resulting in more injured cats being taken in.
This is very interesting to know!! I have 3 cats. I got 2 from a shelter and my baby we found on the streets all by herself. Now she is a thriving member of our family. And now I know that my little one was a more common adoption then my shelter kitties. Lol.
Wow. I did not know this. Thank you so much for the information. As always, helping the world, one solid informational video at a time.
I got my cat from a animal shelter
ShowCaseCity Thats great! 😊
I do think people genuinely believe they are helping these cats and are kindhearted people who want to rescue cats even if they can't. I see many feral cats in the street but I leave them be. I only had one instance of a rescue where there was a very friendly cat outside that I had seen around and one day, while petting her ex owner explained how he kicked her out because he broke up with the girlfriend he got her with. I didn't know how to handle the situation but it seemed wrong to leave a cat that used to be a pet (she even had a collar for a while) in the streets cuz of a break up. I was able to bring her home, feed her, but I couldn't keep her because of the amount of pets I already had. I called no kill shelters for some help and they weren't very good at giving advice and my mother wanted the cat OUT. So I panicked and took her with me to a doctors appointment, not sure what to do next. But by a miracle, my doctor wanted her and we were able to set up a way for him to take her. She stayed with the dr for a while but one day...just decided to live outside again. I guess she just got used to it. And she showed no signs of being feral (used litter box, constantly purring and kneading, sits on lap, plays with kids, no food aggression, neat). But she just enjoyed outside more. I don't know if I fall under the category of harming her by doing this. :(. I just wanted to give her a better life and I'm sorry if I've done something wrong, but I gave it my best shot. I still see that little cat around and shower her with love, I just don't move her now of course
Please know that you did not do her any harm. You gave her two more experiences with positive loving humans, you and the doctor she stayed with. She may prefer outdoor life but she clearly wasn't upset by being in a home and obviously still loves you, by her behavior. Because you are in her life, she has a place that she knows is safe and she can go if she wants human help.
Kitten Lady is addressing people who take cats to animal shelters and leave them at the shelter to be housed until someone else wants them or they are euthanized. You found her an adopter yourself, trying your best as you said, and she chose to be a community cat instead. If she has been spayed at some point already and is not injured, then you are doing all you can and need to for her. I'm sure she would thank you if she had the human words and I thank you for being so kind.
lycadia thank you for your kind words :')
I'm happy to have brought a little joy to a living beings life.
Margaret Connor
This specific kitty liked the outdoors as do my barn cats. I've dealt with ferals however, and about half of them eventually socialize. I have two who are happy to stay indoors. All cats are different.
I saw an ear tipped cat at petcos adoption center
He would be considered safe right? Since they don't euthanize cats
I adopted my cat (who also has a tipped ear) from a group at petco. I'm pretty sure all adoption centers at petco are run by local volunteer, no-kill groups that foster cats. He'll be fine, as those cats are fostered.
I volunteer at a Petco adoption center, & the cats come from a shelter/rescue. Once they're at the center, they're safe. At my center, if a cat is there for a while, we move them to another center (like one at Pet Valu or PetSmart) & they're still safe.
Angie M. Yes that cat would be fine, but some Petco's in America if cats or dogs don't get adopted in a certain of time they send them to a nearby shelter.
Our cat was TNR, she was living behind our apartment with ferals. She has been socialized and makes an amazing house cat, but we let her out for a few hours a day so she can still hang out with her buddies.
Kitten Lady, thank you SO much for your very informative, helpful video on this subject! We all should see this, so many great tips. Once again, thank you!
HI KITTEN LADY!! :) You are my favorite UA-camr ever!! I love kittens, and now I'm learning how to take care of them!! :)
This creates a problem for me my cats are not eartiped but they don't wear collars and even the ones that say you can't take it off they manage, and they are outdoor and indoor cats but I think they are micro chipped
I don't have a cat of my own but I love petting any community cats that I can. The catch is that if the cat doesn't have a collar, I don't take it to the vet to get scanned, I just assume it's a community cat. So if you're cat ever escapes, people may never get far enough to check for a microchip. So maybe it's a good thing that it doesn't have an ear tip because then someone may take it in to the vet assuming it needs to be neutered.
Ever curious: Michelle
Cats with tipped ears have been neutered.
I have a beautiful healthy male cat named Pumpkin, his original owners lived in an apartment building that didnt allow pets but despite this they still kept him. outside in a small cage in the dead of winter, the poor kitten had ear mites and was freezing to the touch. my grandmother and I took the kitten in and treated it properly. now he's warm, healthy, and happy. we named him Pumpkin because he was officially ours on Halloween night.
I would really love to foster cats or kittens in the future, I just don't know how pumpkin would feel about it or how he'd react to them. any advice on what to do if he's avoidant or too rough?
this is kind of random but when I was eihht or nine there was a gorgeous tabby that lived on my block and everyone that had a cat in the neighborhood helped to feed it and stuff. but one night this cat was meowing really loudly at my garage door so I went to investigate. and this cat darted into my garage and was living there without my parents knowing for like a week and parents still dont know that I had my own cat for like a week and it was great. and this cat is still friendly to me to this day.
I learn so much from your videos. When I have better resources I will be doing what you're doing.