The space tube idea that takes a whopping 14 HOURS to transport people from earths orbit to earth? A cost that would bankrupt most Nations as well as earth. When even Jeff bazos blue origin flight took 10 MINUTES.😆 The latest telescope to replace hubble cost a Trillion dollars to develop.🙄 Could it even be possible, practical to build the damn tube thing and have it working properly in tandem with earth's gravitational forces ect?
I love the juxtaposition between it and the Invictus; from the perspective of the ship, it starts flying through dazzling space. But at 8:14 we see the perspective of those it left behind; it went "Poof".
@@kalaong its a really cool way to show the common trope where the ship transitions to an existance on higher dimensional space and moves within it from one point in the universe to another while from outside instead of zooming off into the distance like usually in sci fi it does not start moving anywhere in three dimensional space and just seemingly vanishes to a layer of the universe beyond perception
This is why people should always read the novel first. First and foremost The Galactic Empire in Isaac Asimov Foundation is not technological superior enough to make black holes or jump into 1. Even the Warhammer 40K Imperium of Mankind is more technological superior than Foundation's Galactic Empire. And 2 it's called a Jump Drive and the black hole and excretion disk thingy effects are just a by product of 3rd and 4th dimensions clashing in real space. 3rd Empires Jump Drive creates a sub-quantum tunnel in the 4th Dimension called Hyperspace (unlike Star Wars sub-dimension space in the 3rd Dimension also called Hyperspace). Foundation Galactic Empire is a stagnant and decadent Autocracy-Monarchy government is only a Class 1 Type Civilization in the Kardashev scale, why because i. Both Novel and Television The Galactic Empire is only capable of harnessing Nuclear Fusion Energy which is Inferior to both Star Trek Anti-Matter and Star Wars Hyper-Matter Energy.
@@nikkotan2840 I respect your comment on knowing the books and the lore. However, from a physics point of view, your comment on 3rd and 4th dimensions clashing in "real space" is meaningless. General relativity is 4-dimensioal physics on a manifold M(x,y,z,t). I'm not well versed in Issac Asimov's books, however, I thought he would take the science more realistically and venture into the more theoretical nature. Then again, it's science fiction. If what you're describing is some type of gravity drive, then that's far superior technology than a Type-I civilization which learns how to harness the power of a star. A star or stellar physics encompasses the strong nuclear force and the weak nuclear force. A gravity engine is beyond anything we know can exists. It delves into quantum gravity which is harnessing the power of a black hole which is far more advanced and esoteric physics. That would be the physics of worm holes, gravity drives, space folding... quantum entanglement. I understand why, in the TV series they're using a singularity to drive the engine because it makes sense in today's knowledge of physics. Should they actually kept strict to the story is an interesting point. Personally, it's OK to update certain segments of the story in terms of technology. But your point on society being stagnant is without question integral to the story.
I just realized that the reason the invictus is so large is it’s an early model of the jump ship and needed a huge jump drive to work, where as the newer ones have better jump drives that can be smaller inside the ship instead of having to be the entire ship…. Small details like that are what make this show so great.
A detail I like, is how the Imperial Warships, are basically the regular Jumpships, but with a weapons ring slapped onto them. It helps show how stagnant the empire is and how bloated, that they have far more space to hold onto than they have actual warships, so they have resorted to in effect, just slapping guns onto transports.
@@weldonwin i think the space warfare in the series is like in galactic heroes thousands of ships in large groups firing at each other in formations not like individual ships like in star wars
I love the detail of the ship creating Blackholes to move through time-space! We are also shown how physically fragile they are. As I imagine crafts made for intricate and complex travel would be.
Obviously u didn't read the novel and don't know how black holes works. The Galactic Empire only uses Nuclear Fusion for both Novel and TV and creating a singularity needs more energy than a Fusion could make, nevermind jumping into the densest energy in the universe the singularity.
Even our inflatable life rafts have a tent like structure for shade from the Sun and to shelter from and collect rain water. An open canoe with no shelter is a bit out of place for the equipment of an escape pod.
Who else remembers when CGI was just starting out replacing models in science fiction. Babylon 5, Earth: Above & Beyond etc. If we only knew how much we had in store.
@@halohaalo2583 A faithful version of one of Asimov's novels would probably seem very misogynistic, nowadays, as he rarely, if ever, portrayed women as 3-dimensional, realistic characters. Almost without exception, his stories are male-centric, with mostly male characters, and in his later stories the men talked like university professors giving lectures, rather than real men having normal conversations. Even in his earlier stories, the characters often seemed to be very neurotic, with unrealistic behaviour that seemed to be forced to fit the plot, rather than following logically from the events which were driving the plot.
@@davidhazel5854; because rationalists believes human emotions are a sickness and make mankind fail on their evolution. So the "future human" of writters like Asimov are portrait as semi-robotics. I can't say if they're totally wrong...
@@davidhazel5854 That's what I've heard others mention the most. The ideas, the plots, the worldbuilding, all great... But the characters and story pacing itself... As much of a fan as I am, sometimes it seems like a history lecture (of a fictional future) than a traditionally narrative story, in a world where most people are very... On the spectrum?
By far the greatest looking gravity technology that actually makes sense in sci fi. Literally mimics a black hole to fold space and travel without moving. Done so well
Thank you for the video! I haven't seen the show yet BUT I did read Foundation, Foundation & Empire, and Robots & Empire as a kid. I enjoyed them more than Frank Herbert's - Dune. They made my imagination really run wild and made me a life long fan of the scifi genre. 😊
Not the serie can be good as its own show, but it puke on Asimovs vision, a robot who kill....they gender bender the male caracters, but remove Dors Venabili.
The show is fine, but has very little to do with Asimov other than names of people (Salvor Hardin, Cleon, Seldon, …), and places (Terminus, Trantor, some of the barbarian kingdoms), and some of the plot having some relation to psychohistory. But people do not resemble themselves, Demerzel’s twist is revealed pretty much straight away, and such. Demerzel’s gender doesn’t matter, but the weird reveal does. That said, it is a decent show, the CGI is well done, it has its own cool ideas (showing interesting crises stemming from completely different situations), some casting choices are great, and such. Recommending on its own grounds - comparing too much to Asimov’s work (and its themes of the types of power or how empires, not emperors, rise and fall) will bring dissastisfaction.
Blackhole drive, uses contact kinetic rings to hold the singularity within a magnetic confinement. I believe they also use it to generate a compression effect to ignite the black hole and sustain it almost seems that it also feeds the ring energy while active.
I don't think it's necessarily a singularity in the traditional way unless they can stabilize the gravitational pull somehow, I think it's more of a harnessed spacetime portal of some sort or a large dark energy blob
I've read the first book of Foundation, could be pretty epic as a tv series. But it deals with huge time spans, so the characters will be replaced all the time
@@NitpickingNerd Wow. Way to piss on the source material for the sake of keeping a few characters. Why didn’t they just make something ori…Oh. My bad. This is Hollywood we’re talking about.
@@christopherjones5446 having read the book it’s my opinion that it couldn’t be adapted to tv without significant additions. This is what they’ve done here. Some additions are good some are bad, it is clear that they only did this cuz of the IP but if they end up ultimately making a good show then I won’t be complaining.
@@christopherjones5446 Have you read the books? Foundational science fiction, no pawn intended, but not heavy on the character work. To adapt this to TV, they absolutely made the right choice to have tie the extended time spans together using characters.
We have as much floating around the Earth, which we deal with in the usual fashion - by pretending it's not there until it becomes such a huge problem that it will be impossible to deal with.
Photorealistic CGI (which is so easy to produce these days) can put more weight on the tv show than give it some extended value. Although all this looks really nice I still prefer to watch TNG (where they sparingly used models + CGI) for quick shots. In Foundation they have 3900 VFX shots in first 10 episodes alone. To achieve that they had to hire 19 additional VFX companies !!! That is insane. When majority of what you see are ship flyovers, indoor cgi environments or star dust with some fancy space stations after some time you fall in sleep and loose interest. Tv show to me should be like a visit to a theater with 99% interesting dialogs and 1% scene props.
I disagree, if I want decent dialogue I'll read a book, if I want to be fully emersed in a world and get a glimps of what the future or alternate world may look like you need a show like this. I could watch photorealistic CGI for hours, I love these compilations.
It wasn't a realistic space elevator, in any case. A real one would have to have its centre of mass in geostationary orbit and its base on the equator, so as not to require impossibly strong materials to construct it.
That looks to be geostationary orbit so not sure what you are talking about. The planet is roughly the right size for it. And I don't know why you think the base is not on the equator. Again looks close enough. It's certainly not near the poles. That said not sure why a single, relatively small explosion should suddenly cause the entire thing to collapse in moments. @@davidhazel5854
@@davidhazel5854it's kind of realistic, a space elevator needs to be in geostationary plus at around a far away Lagrange point to balance out the weight, they nailed that pretty well. And it seems like it's built on the equator as well
I really enjoyed watching this series.. as much as it infuriated the he'll out of me.. it was such a mess... but hay at least it was something new... got to give it that.
I liked the show for its wonderful CGIs, Production and Soundtrack, but. I also absolutely hated how they made the original Asimov's stories became dull, uninteresting and groan inducing annoyance, but. However the new additions about the Genetic Dynasty and Demerzel is a very welcome new thing, but. This also goes to show that Mr.Goyer didn't care about Asimov's vision, he only care about making his own story and it shows.
As someone who has neither seen the show nor read the books, which one is better? Your comment about the story being dull is not quite clear (has the old story become dull in comparison to the now one or is the new one dull ?)
@@alexanderzippel8809 the books were better of course. What i was getting at is that. The stories from the book that's in the show wasn't being adapted very well. It was supposed to be the center piece of the show, but. It was like, it was just an afterthought for Goyer, he prioritized his own story and it's why the only good parts of the show was Goyer's story and Asimov's story within the show were quite tiresome.
@@alexanderzippel8809 The Foundation series consists of 7 books by Asimov, 3 books authorized by his estate (Foundation's Fear, Foundation and Chaos, Foundation's Triumph) and 1 book not authorized (Psychohistorical Crisis). Of the books written by Asimov, there are the main 3, the prequels and the sequels. The original trilogy is the best, but the prequels and sequels are the easiest to adapt; I have no idea why they didn't choose to focus the show on one of them. Foundation and the first half of Foundation and Empire are short stories dedicated to exploring an idea. It is Asimov at his best; the flaws don't detract from the story, the idea is interesting and communicated well and the story is relatively fair. The second half of Foundation and Empire and Second Foundation revolve around magic- er, psychic powers. This trend carries on into the sequels; I don't think they are any good in large part because of this. The prequels are an adventure story with Hari Seldon; they are decent, but Asimov's Robot detective stories (Cave's of Steel and sequels) are superior. If you like Asimov's work, they are worth reading, otherwise skip. The books authorized by Asimov's estate are written by established authors, but are reminiscent of fanfiction... so on par with the sequels.
The show is better. The book was good for its time, but reading it now you’ll find it dated. “Book readers” are crying because they want nostalgia, they want the same formula, the want the same thing but just on a screen. They don’t realize if that’s they case it’ll just be so uninspiring.
@@potatomo9609; or maybe they know what makes something immortal. "The book was good for its time". That's a very very dumb assumption for a series what was write 80 years before. Or maybe you can make sothing better... No? So SHUT UP.
Ship designers went to the Prometheus School of Risk Management, I’ve seen enough EVE online gameplay to know some of these structures wouldn’t last very long in the event of events.
@@DartLuke Discovery is a Japanese anime, it has nothing in common with the quality of the previous ST series… while Foundation is a great series even if it is not the same as the book! especially the characters of three Emperors are good
6:33 You know, for the starship class which has kept a galaxy-spanning empire under control for literally centuries, the Aegis-class is a tad bit fragile. I mean, come on, how in the heck does the Empire's main warship lose control and crash because of a single flak shot hit to the lower part of the crescent? It didn't hit anywhere near the jump drive, or even the weapons ring, so why does the Aegis crash due to it?
Why does it do so exactly? Because it does not follow the story exactly? I don't think you understand what constitutes someones "vision". The show does an honest attempt at adapting Asimovs works. It shares a similar theme. That is hardly "puking on his vision". The show has a lot more "action" sure but that should be expected from a TV show that is supposed to have mass appeal. @@kirgan1000
the warships are only repurposed transport jumpships with a weapons array on it, and they usually have antimissiles to deal with it but they didn't expect anti air on the ground. It makes sense if you think about it
As cool as the ship look I can help but be a little irritated that the passenger section is wrapped around the FTL drive. That's probably a quick way to die by radiation poising.
Very few SF series or films have spacecraft that are a feasible design, and most wouldn't actually work as spacecraft. A spacecraft needs to have a lot of symmetry, to ensure that the thrust vector is always through the centre of mass, regardless of which thrusters or engines are firing. An asymmetric ship would go into a spin, or even a random tumble, because of the torque that the engines would produce about the centre of mass.
Doesn't matter. Distance isn't going to save you from that only a radiation shield. Which you might as well put around the source of that radiation. At that point it would not make any difference if you are close to the shield or at the other end of the sship. Those couple hundred meters at most aren't going to save you if there is a significant leakage. Besides without knowing the FTL drives exact mechanics who is to say there even is dangerous radiation? I mean they generate black holes but without time to "catch" radiation it isn't really dangerous in terms of radiation. And frankly if you can contain a black hole of all things you probably are not conerned about a few gamma rays.
The storyline in this series is completely different to that in the Foundation novels. The only connection, really, is in the names of the central characters (except there are far more Cleons than the novels). Even the Seldon Crises are different, as is the manner of Hari's appearances and even the Vault. They just have characters of the same names sorting them out (so far, at least). Oh, and the nature of the Second Foundation is revealed in the middle of this first series, rather than being left until a later stage.
@@rudiruttger It is one of the best TV series I've seen, in recent years, and it does take a lot of inspiration from the books. It just doesn't tell the story in the same way. That doesn't make it less interesting or rewarding, though. Asimov was not exactly the best storyteller, even if he did tell stories which literally spanned the galaxy. He himself described the Foundation trilogy as being "a lot of talking heads and not much action". In that sense, the series is a vast improvement on the way he told it. It is also visually stunning, with a clever use of special effects to enhance the story, rather than the usual approach of using them as a substitute for a good story.
Asimov's technologies were always dated. All he ever did was take the technology that was current at the time of writing, and add something slightly futuristic. His original Foundation novels had 1940s technology with added hyperdrive, and Foundation's Edge had 1980s technology with hyperdrive and brain-interfaces. In contrast, this series shows everyday use of many different advanced technologies.
the space elevator , the artificial skies on multiple levels of the giant city planet , intelligent robots , are all elements from his books that I remember
It’s a space elevator. It has to be positioned at the geostationary orbit height. In reality if you build something like that and it fall, it’ll wrap around earth not just once but couple of times.
In the story it is also a visual representation of Cleon the 1st's huberous. It is a visual statement he is attempting to make to show the grandeur and opolence of Empire to the Galaxy. Trantor is meant to be the Center of the Galaxy, even though it isn't, but it is meant to represent the hub of civilization and the eminent almost god like power fo Empire. So making is small was not something he wanted, he wanted it to be awe inspiring and beyond anything ever done before by any other leader of Empire before him.
Black holes that's no black hole and fyi The Galactic Empire Imperial Fleet Starship almost all have no Energy Shields except for few capital warships like The Shining Destiny and Planetary Shielding of Trantor. The Empire stagnant and decadent civilization that has no technological progress in almost 30K standard years. In Kardashev Scale they are considered as Type 1 Class Civilization because both Novels and the Show The Empire is only capable of harnessing the power of a Star called Nuclear Fusion. In order to create a Singularity that needs to make a Black Hole or a stable Wormhole u need a more potent energy sources that Fusion Power is not capable of. Foundations Jump Drives work similarly to Star War by traversing into a sub-space called Hyperspace but the similarities end there, because Foundations Jump Drive works by traversing the sub-space of the 4th Dimension rather than the 3rd Dimension in Star Wars. In Episode 9 when The Invictus was forced to crash-land on Terminus while The Shining Destiny commanded by Bel Reose fired a beam that activated it's jump drive which caused Invictus to suck a bug chunk of the planet rather than consuming the planets outside-in like real Black Holes do. There's no Singularity, there's no Black Holes, what Cleon XVI said is utterly bullshit and a lie and to everyone who believes his words are a complete fool. Only Class 4, 5 and up Civilizations has the power to traverse Black Holes and make Stable Wormholes, if u don't believe me go watch Interstellar because its the most realistic as it can get or even better read the books. Even in Warhammer 40K Imperium of Mankind is more Technological Superior than Foundations Galactic Empire, because before the Dark Ages of Technology Mankind in Warhammer 40K have made ao much technological progress that would make Foundations and Dune Technology like a toddler.
I like the show overall... BUT they copied star trek discovery in one bad aspect... the perfect Michael Burnham female power woman of color lead who never does anything wrong, who constantly saves the galaxy and if anyone disagrees with her, he dies in the next scene. When she finally appears to be gone, they bring another one just like her lol
my review of this show here : ua-cam.com/video/JCDVkL19pUI/v-deo.html
I came here to find out what you though of the series. Guess I'll find out!
I've been a subscriber to both your channels this whole time and never knew you were the same person!
The space tube idea that takes a whopping 14 HOURS to transport people from earths orbit to earth? A cost that would bankrupt most Nations as well as earth. When even Jeff bazos blue origin flight took 10 MINUTES.😆
The latest telescope to replace hubble cost a Trillion dollars to develop.🙄
Could it even be possible, practical to build the damn tube thing and have it working properly in tandem with earth's gravitational forces ect?
The "Contact" drive making the ship look like the accretion disc around a black hole was absolutely freakin' gorgeous.
I love the juxtaposition between it and the Invictus; from the perspective of the ship, it starts flying through dazzling space. But at 8:14 we see the perspective of those it left behind; it went "Poof".
@@kalaong its a really cool way to show the common trope where the ship transitions to an existance on higher dimensional space and moves within it from one point in the universe to another while from outside instead of zooming off into the distance like usually in sci fi it does not start moving anywhere in three dimensional space and just seemingly vanishes to a layer of the universe beyond perception
I LOVED it. Just a beautiful design idea. Really impressed with that one.
This is why people should always read the novel first.
First and foremost The Galactic Empire in Isaac Asimov Foundation is not technological superior enough to make black holes or jump into 1. Even the Warhammer 40K Imperium of Mankind is more technological superior than Foundation's Galactic Empire.
And 2 it's called a Jump Drive and the black hole and excretion disk thingy effects are just a by product of 3rd and 4th dimensions clashing in real space.
3rd Empires Jump Drive creates a sub-quantum tunnel in the 4th Dimension called Hyperspace (unlike Star Wars sub-dimension space in the 3rd Dimension also called Hyperspace).
Foundation Galactic Empire is a stagnant and decadent Autocracy-Monarchy government is only a Class 1 Type Civilization in the Kardashev scale, why because i. Both Novel and Television The Galactic Empire is only capable of harnessing Nuclear Fusion Energy which is Inferior to both Star Trek Anti-Matter and Star Wars Hyper-Matter Energy.
@@nikkotan2840 I respect your comment on knowing the books and the lore. However, from a physics point of view, your comment on 3rd and 4th dimensions clashing in "real space" is meaningless. General relativity is 4-dimensioal physics on a manifold M(x,y,z,t). I'm not well versed in Issac Asimov's books, however, I thought he would take the science more realistically and venture into the more theoretical nature. Then again, it's science fiction. If what you're describing is some type of gravity drive, then that's far superior technology than a Type-I civilization which learns how to harness the power of a star. A star or stellar physics encompasses the strong nuclear force and the weak nuclear force. A gravity engine is beyond anything we know can exists. It delves into quantum gravity which is harnessing the power of a black hole which is far more advanced and esoteric physics. That would be the physics of worm holes, gravity drives, space folding... quantum entanglement.
I understand why, in the TV series they're using a singularity to drive the engine because it makes sense in today's knowledge of physics.
Should they actually kept strict to the story is an interesting point. Personally, it's OK to update certain segments of the story in terms of technology. But your point on society being stagnant is without question integral to the story.
I just realized that the reason the invictus is so large is it’s an early model of the jump ship and needed a huge jump drive to work, where as the newer ones have better jump drives that can be smaller inside the ship instead of having to be the entire ship…. Small details like that are what make this show so great.
A detail I like, is how the Imperial Warships, are basically the regular Jumpships, but with a weapons ring slapped onto them. It helps show how stagnant the empire is and how bloated, that they have far more space to hold onto than they have actual warships, so they have resorted to in effect, just slapping guns onto transports.
@@weldonwin i think the space warfare in the series is like in galactic heroes thousands of ships in large groups firing at each other in formations not like individual ships like in star wars
@@weldonwinExactly, with the foundation creating jump ships without spacers in a century, while the empire is stuck with them for millennia
I love the detail of the ship creating Blackholes to move through time-space! We are also shown how physically fragile they are. As I imagine crafts made for intricate and complex travel would be.
Obviously u didn't read the novel and don't know how black holes works.
The Galactic Empire only uses Nuclear Fusion for both Novel and TV and creating a singularity needs more energy than a Fusion could make, nevermind jumping into the densest energy in the universe the singularity.
The one that impresses me the most was the collapsible canoe/rowboat.
Computer, can you let me click the two paddle halves together? No.
Even our inflatable life rafts have a tent like structure for shade from the Sun and to shelter from and collect rain water. An open canoe with no shelter is a bit out of place for the equipment of an escape pod.
I thought you were just being sarcastic, until I saw the boat, now I have to agree.
@@bigdaddycool2564 yeah. I mean I’m still impressed even now.
@@bensebastianraymond The sound it makes at 9:35 is exactly like when you jump on water when playing minecraft.
Who else remembers when CGI was just starting out replacing models in science fiction. Babylon 5, Earth: Above & Beyond etc. If we only knew how much we had in store.
I loved Babylon 5.
The Foundation scenes are not full cgi. Practical models were used, + cgi
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@@randybaumery5090 Space: Above and Beyond.
Those super high resolution 360p textures
@@sirignatiounderrated series. Love it
They actually used miniatures for the ships, which I think is quite impressive.
They should have done that for the expanse
That's true, BUT most of the shots ended being full cg nonetheless.
Is the same thing for Star wars
The results are outstanding
The CGI and Special Effects departments need to win every award in the galaxy :) 😍😍😍
The funny thing is that the best part of this show is the genetic dynasty..... which Asimov didn't write!
Bicentennial man is probably the only faithful movie that Asimov will ever get, and even that wasn't really all that faithful
@halo haalo - Yeah thats... not a good movie. lol It's rather dull, tbh. 🫤
@@halohaalo2583 A faithful version of one of Asimov's novels would probably seem very misogynistic, nowadays, as he rarely, if ever, portrayed women as 3-dimensional, realistic characters. Almost without exception, his stories are male-centric, with mostly male characters, and in his later stories the men talked like university professors giving lectures, rather than real men having normal conversations. Even in his earlier stories, the characters often seemed to be very neurotic, with unrealistic behaviour that seemed to be forced to fit the plot, rather than following logically from the events which were driving the plot.
@@davidhazel5854; because rationalists believes human emotions are a sickness and make mankind fail on their evolution.
So the "future human" of writters like Asimov are portrait as semi-robotics.
I can't say if they're totally wrong...
@@davidhazel5854 That's what I've heard others mention the most. The ideas, the plots, the worldbuilding, all great... But the characters and story pacing itself... As much of a fan as I am, sometimes it seems like a history lecture (of a fictional future) than a traditionally narrative story, in a world where most people are very... On the spectrum?
By far the greatest looking gravity technology that actually makes sense in sci fi. Literally mimics a black hole to fold space and travel without moving. Done so well
0:35 most satisfying FTL of all time!
Thank you for the video! I haven't seen the show yet BUT I did read Foundation, Foundation & Empire, and Robots & Empire as a kid. I enjoyed them more than Frank Herbert's - Dune. They made my imagination really run wild and made me a life long fan of the scifi genre. 😊
Not the serie can be good as its own show, but it puke on Asimovs vision, a robot who kill....they gender bender the male caracters, but remove Dors Venabili.
@@kirgan1000 Awwww! I really wish they'd stay faithful to the source material these days. I'll still give this show a try. Thanks for the update. 👍
@@adambrown3918 I must stress, the show is not horribel as its own thing, they only need to change the name to games of stars.
The show is fine, but has very little to do with Asimov other than names of people (Salvor Hardin, Cleon, Seldon, …), and places (Terminus, Trantor, some of the barbarian kingdoms), and some of the plot having some relation to psychohistory. But people do not resemble themselves, Demerzel’s twist is revealed pretty much straight away, and such. Demerzel’s gender doesn’t matter, but the weird reveal does.
That said, it is a decent show, the CGI is well done, it has its own cool ideas (showing interesting crises stemming from completely different situations), some casting choices are great, and such. Recommending on its own grounds - comparing too much to Asimov’s work (and its themes of the types of power or how empires, not emperors, rise and fall) will bring dissastisfaction.
The show is a leathery skinsuit based on Asimov's writings but its really good and compelling. it's not as accurate or as true as Dune.
Homeworld called. They want their ship designs back
The Terran Trade Autorithy books called. They want their ship designs back too.
The Vultaum Star Assembly called. They want their space elevator destruction terrorism plot back.
@@Voidwurm1701 the (insert colour) mars trilogy also wants their terrorists destroy space elevator plot back :)
After Homeworld 3, they lost the right to ask.
Never seen this show, but goddamn, the warp effects had me teary. So awesome.
0:52 is how I imagine ships in 40k coming out of the warp
Just without the screaming and ectoplasm or the nightmarish un-light
Apparently, they look like that, just really fuckin' purple.
But isn't that how most ships come out of warp, hyperspace and slipstream in all sci-fi & anime for the past 30 years anyway?!
The soundtrack is so beautiful.... Bear McCreary is a genius
The Orbital Tether crashing down to the planet is all kinds of horrifying.
Incredible soundtrack. Best series so far. Chapeau, Apple. I love the sound and the look, 1st season is a masterpiece.
This show was visually stuning.
imagine if ships in Disco were lit this well
And they didn't summon any demons with that FTL Drive!
This series makes me feel like I'm living in the caveman era.
Super awesome work! Thanks so much for making and sharing this visually stunning movie!!! Cheers!!
Blackhole drive, uses contact kinetic rings to hold the singularity within a magnetic confinement. I believe they also use it to generate a compression effect to ignite the black hole and sustain it almost seems that it also feeds the ring energy while active.
Is that even possible or just fiction?
@@dodgedemonsrtx Probably just fiction
IDk I just found this out from YT recommendation
I don't think it's necessarily a singularity in the traditional way unless they can stabilize the gravitational pull somehow, I think it's more of a harnessed spacetime portal of some sort or a large dark energy blob
I want to see more of the docking of the jumpship and the Star bridge .
Well unfortunately the star bridge blows up pretty early on in the show
@@shockingbunny2122I'm talking about when Gaal arrives .
I've read the first book of Foundation, could be pretty epic as a tv series. But it deals with huge time spans, so the characters will be replaced all the time
that's why they made some characters clones , robots , holograms , or characters who constantly go into suspended animation to wake up centuries later
@@NitpickingNerd Wow. Way to piss on the source material for the sake of keeping a few characters. Why didn’t they just make something ori…Oh. My bad. This is Hollywood we’re talking about.
@@christopherjones5446 yeah, and probably would fail in the first season because would be very expensive. glad they make that way..
@@christopherjones5446 having read the book it’s my opinion that it couldn’t be adapted to tv without significant additions. This is what they’ve done here. Some additions are good some are bad, it is clear that they only did this cuz of the IP but if they end up ultimately making a good show then I won’t be complaining.
@@christopherjones5446 Have you read the books? Foundational science fiction, no pawn intended, but not heavy on the character work. To adapt this to TV, they absolutely made the right choice to have tie the extended time spans together using characters.
They’re gorgeous.
imagine trying to clean up all that space debris
In my fiction its an important job, though still not a prestigious one.
We have as much floating around the Earth, which we deal with in the usual fashion - by pretending it's not there until it becomes such a huge problem that it will be impossible to deal with.
9:33 pretty sure that's the Minecraft splash sound effect
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Oh no, a spinning space drive again 🙄 Are we in the spinning age? 😂
spinning is so much cooler than not spinning . also it's neat trick
@@MajorGrin d-d-d-d-double reference!
@@MajorGrin the high ground did not serve them well.
9:33 Minecraft boat sound effect
That ship reminds me of the station in Mass Effect to jump to other solar systems
Photorealistic CGI (which is so easy to produce these days) can put more weight on the tv show than give it some extended value.
Although all this looks really nice I still prefer to watch TNG (where they sparingly used models + CGI) for quick shots. In Foundation they have 3900 VFX shots in first 10 episodes alone. To achieve that they had to hire 19 additional VFX companies !!! That is insane.
When majority of what you see are ship flyovers, indoor cgi environments or star dust with some fancy space stations after some time you fall in sleep and loose interest.
Tv show to me should be like a visit to a theater with 99% interesting dialogs and 1% scene props.
im not a computer programmer does making graphics like this hard and time consuming?
@@randomrazr very
@@theangryMD i suck at math
I disagree, if I want decent dialogue I'll read a book, if I want to be fully emersed in a world and get a glimps of what the future or alternate world may look like you need a show like this. I could watch photorealistic CGI for hours, I love these compilations.
@@karl810 yes but it's expensive and time consuming, hence it can weigh a show down.
The most outstanding tv series ever
Yep, when a Tethered Station falls, the results are darn impressive....and fatal.
It wasn't a realistic space elevator, in any case. A real one would have to have its centre of mass in geostationary orbit and its base on the equator, so as not to require impossibly strong materials to construct it.
That looks to be geostationary orbit so not sure what you are talking about. The planet is roughly the right size for it. And I don't know why you think the base is not on the equator. Again looks close enough. It's certainly not near the poles.
That said not sure why a single, relatively small explosion should suddenly cause the entire thing to collapse in moments. @@davidhazel5854
@@davidhazel5854it's kind of realistic, a space elevator needs to be in geostationary plus at around a far away Lagrange point to balance out the weight, they nailed that pretty well. And it seems like it's built on the equator as well
The ship where you can see people from outside is literally the dumbest ship design iv ever seen.
I was thinking the same. Like why would people in stasis need a window view, making them even more exposed.
It was necessary because the girl who wakes up during stasis needed to look into hyperspace to develop psycic powers
@@NitpickingNerd without seeing the show that sort of makes sense. Much more than a giant vacuum of space for turbo lifts anyway.
That first ship? Straight outa _Homeworld._
Return of FONDATION the 2nd Crisis promises to be epic very impatient on July 14th
7:27 Not even one spinning rock
they kind of forgot everything spins in space
I really enjoyed watching this series.. as much as it infuriated the he'll out of me.. it was such a mess... but hay at least it was something new... got to give it that.
Is this show coming back anytime soon?
what an Elegant and Extremely wasteful way to travel... but hey at least they have a workable theory right there.
"Omni Future Almanac" by Bova & Wiels along with "Science of Science Fiction" by Nichols
Is there a ship compilation for season 2 yet?
Amazing futuristic CGI technology
This almost makes the series look good.
It is amazing on every aspect
9:32 did... did they sample the minecraft splash noise?
I gotta see that star bridge docking scene it looks fantastic.
01:47. So who dropped Final Fantasy/Chronicles of Riddick in Foundation? :P
Homeworld vibes. Which i am okay with.
i really liked this show
I liked the show for its wonderful CGIs, Production and Soundtrack, but. I also absolutely hated how they made the original Asimov's stories became dull, uninteresting and groan inducing annoyance, but. However the new additions about the Genetic Dynasty and Demerzel is a very welcome new thing, but. This also goes to show that Mr.Goyer didn't care about Asimov's vision, he only care about making his own story and it shows.
As someone who has neither seen the show nor read the books, which one is better? Your comment about the story being dull is not quite clear (has the old story become dull in comparison to the now one or is the new one dull ?)
@@alexanderzippel8809 the books were better of course. What i was getting at is that. The stories from the book that's in the show wasn't being adapted very well. It was supposed to be the center piece of the show, but. It was like, it was just an afterthought for Goyer, he prioritized his own story and it's why the only good parts of the show was Goyer's story and Asimov's story within the show were quite tiresome.
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The Foundation series consists of 7 books by Asimov, 3 books authorized by his estate (Foundation's Fear, Foundation and Chaos, Foundation's Triumph) and 1 book not authorized (Psychohistorical Crisis).
Of the books written by Asimov, there are the main 3, the prequels and the sequels. The original trilogy is the best, but the prequels and sequels are the easiest to adapt; I have no idea why they didn't choose to focus the show on one of them.
Foundation and the first half of Foundation and Empire are short stories dedicated to exploring an idea. It is Asimov at his best; the flaws don't detract from the story, the idea is interesting and communicated well and the story is relatively fair.
The second half of Foundation and Empire and Second Foundation revolve around magic- er, psychic powers. This trend carries on into the sequels; I don't think they are any good in large part because of this.
The prequels are an adventure story with Hari Seldon; they are decent, but Asimov's Robot detective stories (Cave's of Steel and sequels) are superior. If you like Asimov's work, they are worth reading, otherwise skip.
The books authorized by Asimov's estate are written by established authors, but are reminiscent of fanfiction... so on par with the sequels.
The show is better. The book was good for its time, but reading it now you’ll find it dated. “Book readers” are crying because they want nostalgia, they want the same formula, the want the same thing but just on a screen. They don’t realize if that’s they case it’ll just be so uninspiring.
@@potatomo9609; or maybe they know what makes something immortal.
"The book was good for its time". That's a very very dumb assumption for a series what was write 80 years before.
Or maybe you can make sothing better... No? So SHUT UP.
Missing the Anacreon corvette and Thespin lancer.
Ship designers went to the Prometheus School of Risk Management, I’ve seen enough EVE online gameplay to know some of these structures wouldn’t last very long in the event of events.
I loved the visuals of planet synax
how have I never heard of this show
Foudation best serie of 2021
No. It is terrible as Discovery. And they left nothing from original story
@@DartLuke Discovery is a Japanese anime, it has nothing in common with the quality of the previous ST series… while Foundation is a great series even if it is not the same as the book! especially the characters of three Emperors are good
Foundation was a mess... although it was something new... which made it watchable.. I wouldn't say it was as terrible as discovery by a long shot..
Nah, this show is atrocious. Not only shits in Asimov books but also display the same badly writen tropes of NuTrek.
@@Ma55ey Foundation is in its first season so it can get better while Discovery is in its 4th and it's all a disaster
Where is the whisper ship? Where is the navigators mothership? Where is Mallo Hobart's ship? The Thespin and Anacreon ships?
I might just be high. but this looks amazing.
The series was pretty lit at the beginning, especially with this black hole-ship, but then it turned into a cringe-show.
Wasted potential.
It was very word up. Later it became very kornkk.
The asteroids moving like that looks a bit odd
6:33 You know, for the starship class which has kept a galaxy-spanning empire under control for literally centuries, the Aegis-class is a tad bit fragile.
I mean, come on, how in the heck does the Empire's main warship lose control and crash because of a single flak shot hit to the lower part of the crescent? It didn't hit anywhere near the jump drive, or even the weapons ring, so why does the Aegis crash due to it?
Is foundation worth watching...looking for new show to watch
100%
Its pretty but is it worth watching?
Yes
"all the starships in foundation"
first clip is of the only non-star ship in the show
I love this show!
that ship looks like Homeworld mother-ship!!
Space elevator...bad?
Bohhr this with the Black hole. 100 Points.
Had to stop watching. I definetly want to see this show.
@9:35 so much advancement and they couldn’t put a motor on that canoe?
Looks like another version of star wars and I'm a huge star wars fan
It's a lot less boom and a lot more like a mix between The Ones storyline and the coruscant plots
The Foundation is defiantly the best show of 2021.
Maybe as a own show, but it puke on Asimovs vision.
Nah, this show is atrocious. Not only shits in Asimov books but also display the same badly writen tropes of NuTrek.
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Why does it do so exactly? Because it does not follow the story exactly? I don't think you understand what constitutes someones "vision". The show does an honest attempt at adapting Asimovs works. It shares a similar theme. That is hardly "puking on his vision". The show has a lot more "action" sure but that should be expected from a TV show that is supposed to have mass appeal. @@kirgan1000
Wow mini blackholes create by ships 😮
is this relate star wars? it like different galaxy
What would Asimov think?
I think he'd like it, straight up copying your work usually isn't popular and they did some good additions and showcased the world beautifully
The only digestible part of this atrocious series if you disconect your brain and pretend you havent seen this before.
9:35 how the fuck did that imperial warship get one shotted by a single missle?!
the warships are only repurposed transport jumpships with a weapons array on it, and they usually have antimissiles to deal with it but they didn't expect anti air on the ground. It makes sense if you think about it
As cool as the ship look I can help but be a little irritated that the passenger section is wrapped around the FTL drive. That's probably a quick way to die by radiation poising.
There is no radiation.
@@21preend42there would be.... cooked from inside out.
Very few SF series or films have spacecraft that are a feasible design, and most wouldn't actually work as spacecraft. A spacecraft needs to have a lot of symmetry, to ensure that the thrust vector is always through the centre of mass, regardless of which thrusters or engines are firing. An asymmetric ship would go into a spin, or even a random tumble, because of the torque that the engines would produce about the centre of mass.
Doesn't matter. Distance isn't going to save you from that only a radiation shield. Which you might as well put around the source of that radiation. At that point it would not make any difference if you are close to the shield or at the other end of the sship. Those couple hundred meters at most aren't going to save you if there is a significant leakage.
Besides without knowing the FTL drives exact mechanics who is to say there even is dangerous radiation? I mean they generate black holes but without time to "catch" radiation it isn't really dangerous in terms of radiation. And frankly if you can contain a black hole of all things you probably are not conerned about a few gamma rays.
Space elevators are a bad idea.
9:34 Minecraft water sfx
Cel mai frumos SF al tuturor timpurilor
A simulation run by servers designed to keep us complacent
Erm, the matrix?
Planet sized skybox
Haven't seen the show, but I have read the short stories and novels on which this is based. Is it quite the departure as it appears?
The storyline in this series is completely different to that in the Foundation novels. The only connection, really, is in the names of the central characters (except there are far more Cleons than the novels). Even the Seldon Crises are different, as is the manner of Hari's appearances and even the Vault. They just have characters of the same names sorting them out (so far, at least). Oh, and the nature of the Second Foundation is revealed in the middle of this first series, rather than being left until a later stage.
@@davidhazel5854 Sounds like it wouldn't be as interesting or rewarding as the short stories.
@@rudiruttger It is one of the best TV series I've seen, in recent years, and it does take a lot of inspiration from the books. It just doesn't tell the story in the same way. That doesn't make it less interesting or rewarding, though. Asimov was not exactly the best storyteller, even if he did tell stories which literally spanned the galaxy. He himself described the Foundation trilogy as being "a lot of talking heads and not much action". In that sense, the series is a vast improvement on the way he told it. It is also visually stunning, with a clever use of special effects to enhance the story, rather than the usual approach of using them as a substitute for a good story.
@@davidhazel5854 You're welcome to an opinion.
Invictus Kicks Arse!
HEY, TORRENT LINK PLEASE!
Jump drive - это что-то абсолютно невообразимое
Dated technologies while they ignored what Asimov had written.
Asimov's technologies were always dated. All he ever did was take the technology that was current at the time of writing, and add something slightly futuristic. His original Foundation novels had 1940s technology with added hyperdrive, and Foundation's Edge had 1980s technology with hyperdrive and brain-interfaces. In contrast, this series shows everyday use of many different advanced technologies.
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Uuff y eso que son civilizaciones avanzadas y actúan como nandertahl con iPhone 12😮
I have to admit... none of this looks familiar. i read the foundation series back in the 1960s when in High School. I don't recognize any of this.
the space elevator , the artificial skies on multiple levels of the giant city planet , intelligent robots , are all elements from his books that I remember
It diverges in some aspects but literally everything here appeared in some manner in the books. Seems like you just have a bad memory.
👍 I like them
6:19 resembles "Blade Runner" & "Neo Seoul 2144 A.D." to remember how "Star Wars" was copied from Asimov.
I wonder why the sky bridge is so far from the surface. To provide enough of it to do the damage required by the story?
It’s a space elevator. It has to be positioned at the geostationary orbit height. In reality if you build something like that and it fall, it’ll wrap around earth not just once but couple of times.
In the story it is also a visual representation of Cleon the 1st's huberous. It is a visual statement he is attempting to make to show the grandeur and opolence of Empire to the Galaxy. Trantor is meant to be the Center of the Galaxy, even though it isn't, but it is meant to represent the hub of civilization and the eminent almost god like power fo Empire. So making is small was not something he wanted, he wanted it to be awe inspiring and beyond anything ever done before by any other leader of Empire before him.
in 10000 year human can make it Starships to interstellar
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go to 4:45, then immediately jump to 4:53
Black holes that's no black hole and fyi The Galactic Empire Imperial Fleet Starship almost all have no Energy Shields except for few capital warships like The Shining Destiny and Planetary Shielding of Trantor.
The Empire stagnant and decadent civilization that has no technological progress in almost 30K standard years.
In Kardashev Scale they are considered as Type 1 Class Civilization because both Novels and the Show The Empire is only capable of harnessing the power of a Star called Nuclear Fusion.
In order to create a Singularity that needs to make a Black Hole or a stable Wormhole u need a more potent energy sources that Fusion Power is not capable of.
Foundations Jump Drives work similarly to Star War by traversing into a sub-space called Hyperspace but the similarities end there, because Foundations Jump Drive works by traversing the sub-space of the 4th Dimension rather than the 3rd Dimension in Star Wars.
In Episode 9 when The Invictus was forced to crash-land on Terminus while The Shining Destiny commanded by Bel Reose fired a beam that activated it's jump drive which caused Invictus to suck a bug chunk of the planet rather than consuming the planets outside-in like real Black Holes do.
There's no Singularity, there's no Black Holes, what Cleon XVI said is utterly bullshit and a lie and to everyone who believes his words are a complete fool.
Only Class 4, 5 and up Civilizations has the power to traverse Black Holes and make Stable Wormholes, if u don't believe me go watch Interstellar because its the most realistic as it can get or even better read the books. Even in Warhammer 40K Imperium of Mankind is more Technological Superior than Foundations Galactic Empire, because before the Dark Ages of Technology Mankind in Warhammer 40K have made ao much technological progress that would make Foundations and Dune Technology like a toddler.
I like the show overall... BUT they copied star trek discovery in one bad aspect... the perfect Michael Burnham female power woman of color lead who never does anything wrong, who constantly saves the galaxy and if anyone disagrees with her, he dies in the next scene. When she finally appears to be gone, they bring another one just like her lol
Great scenes but deviated from what Asimov wrote.