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9:22 I'm genuinely surprised at the lack of plastic clips! Screws and bolts to hold all that plastic on! I converted all of the plastic clips on my car utilizing body bolt/screw clips and nutserts. They secure better and don't break like the worthless plastic clips.
18:24 They are Not riveted, the automatic cars are the only ones that the cross member bolts in like the one pictured, The manual cars are fully welded in to the frame. The manual cross members are what this mod is designed for. The 6th gen camaro looks to be an easy to mod car compared to the C7.
The gains of improving exhaust in front of and behind something like cats are going to be pretty small. Exhaust ultimately can only flow as much as its most restrictive point. Removing lesser restrictions helps by not adding to it but still limited by the main restriction.
Whats the point of the header's and cat back when you're still restricted by not changing the cat's either off or high flow. Also after looking thru. you gained nothing from those shorties flow wise compared to the stocks only actual upgrade for that would have been long tubes
What's up with the janki version of paradise city Guns & Roses? I notice you guys do that a lot on these shows. You play some slightly different tune to a popular rock song I don't know if you hope people don't notice or what?
How much power do shorty headers make on these engines? The LS and now the LT engines basically come with shorty headers from the factory, so I can't see this doing much.
I just did one without the special tool. A screw driver? I had to clamp the belt down to the pulley with 90 degree needle nose pliers and turn the engine over counter clock wise with a big pair of channel locks. I couldn't get all that done with a screwdriver.
PowerNation.. how are we supposed to register to win the car when their website won’t even work? There’s not even a place where it says to register! I tried submitting my information to the newsletter but that didn’t work either 🤷♂️
Why would any logically thinking person go through the efforts to taking off the factory exhaust manifold to put on shorty headers with factory cats smh
@@KevinTorres-xs9cq aMcSpank You never heard of an GM LS motor factory super charged Corvette ,Camaro or CTS ? It's ok Little Boy Junior Mistake..No Factory boosted coyotes because of a weak valve train. 4 cam chains? Ford knows what it's motors can handle!
Nice build 👌, when is your next give away, I been watching videos.but, I'm always behind the give away dead lines, 🤕, can you help me out, I been a sub for awhile plus, watched it on the TV episodes before I ever watched you-tube,👍😀, thank you so much
@@Joebauers2505 if you wanted Fast You should have bought Fast! Coyotes are POS that fall apart not made for boost! Go buy a COBRA or no water in your mother's Bowl!
Sadly I'm gonna have to agree I had 14 Gt with FBOs and tuned. It was no comparison to my brother's C5 with H/C, exhaust & tune the coyotes are soft down low which kills the fun factor. I guess anything can be fun if u throw enough cash at it though.
@@Slvr2k You must not know what your doing. 2nd gen Coyote motors (2015-2017) are made for boost. I’m talking everything from Procharger, Vortech, Paxton, Edelbrock, etc....with proven dyno numbers up to and over 700rwhp. Just get an aggressive tune from Lund or Palm Beach Dyno. Only thing to do beforehand is upgrade the oil pump gears and switch the crankcase to billet pieces and you are good to go!🔥
Why are all the car shows playing that putrid background music? It wouldn't be so bad if they didn't play it when the cars are being road tested... I mean we're gear heads, we want to hear the sound of the engines, not some canned dreck playing over the sound of the engines.
Yeah right , 8,700 on a super charger to pick up 100 hp . That car made 450 factory , so you can 100. With a good hp tuners tune and intake and exhaust they make 475, Edelbrocks products are a joke and where all tired of seeing installs on products you get for free and no one can afford and suck . Should’ve used on3 performances turbo kit
@hassanosman523 not on this fuel with no supporting mods. Supporting mods matter alot. I don't mean just fuel stuff I mean the overall setup. Long tubes and full free flowing exhaust is alot better than their setup and would likely be required to touch anything near 700. Also ported helps alot because it gives you a huge inlet inlet restrictions kill you on these kinds of blowers. There is a wide discrepancy of what power you'll make based on your overall setup and supporting mods or lack thereof.
Sorry but compared to the ZL1 and the ZL1 1LE, the SS *is* a joke. One buys an SS when one cannot afford a ZL1 (1LE). In the end it costs more to soup up an SS than it would have to have saved up and bought a ZL1 outright, and even with all the modifications, it still cannot handle like a ZL1 on the race track. SS is a dud.
Actually, the ZL1 dynos at around 540 wheel HP and clocks 0-60 at 3.5s (vs 4.0s stock ss). At 570+ hp you can see how this car would outperform the ZL1 given the traction isn't a factor.
A set of slicks and its hitting the 1/4 in the 10s. My little brothers 2020 LT1 Camaro is stock and hitting 11.4's with just some drag radials. A stock ss on street tires is hitting 12.8-12.6 in the 1/4. 2 tenths my ass lol
I need that 2016 578 horsepower Camaro. I have a 92 Z28 that's been sitting up for a year cause my wife has been sick. I lost my job back in May cause she almost died from a collapsed lung and the Hospital lost my fmla paperwork. My job let me go. I've now work in Auburn at a Kia supplier in the maintenance department with a longer drive back and forth to work. I'm afraid when i get my Camaro back on the road it's not going to hold up with the original 158k mile 305 tbi.( it's a t-top car ). I need something to get me to work on time. With my wife having end stage COPD between medicine oxygen and doctor bills i can't afford a car payment at this time.
The only time I get sad at the mention of an ls is when someone puts one in a Ford. Now that is a disgrace. Ford's 4v engines even all the way back to the 03 cobra can easily make over 600 rwhp with a stock long block with a modern blower like this camaro has. And they do it with alot less cubes in case you didn't know the 03 cobra was a 4.6. The 4.6, 5.0, 5.4 and 5.8 all make easy 600-700-800 depending on the blower and overall setup and fuel. This is stock long block I'm talking about. There is sure no reason to be sad about this blown 6.2 doing like 580 wheel lol. Unless you're a gm guy.
420 to the wheels stock, 9 pounds of boost would have a multiplication factor of 1.61 [9 pounds ÷ 14.7= 0.61 + 1= 1.61.....now multiply that to original power level of 420×1.61= 677 hp...that is what it should have after adding 9 pounds of boost...that supercharger is a piece of shit!!!
That math don't always work. The efficiency of the engine greatly effects this. A cammed car with ported heads and long tubes will make a ton more power at the same 9 psi.
POS LS engine has too much compression, hence the low numbers after bolting on the blower. These engines just aren't meant to be boosted from the factory. Probably wouldnt even be able to drive the thing around here on a hot day even with 93 octane. Useless. Keep posting the old stuff, no more of this new car garbage.
Coyotes have been running at least 11:1 compression since 2011 and they easily make over 600 rwhp with basically any blower even on 93 with a stock long block. And this is with a 5 liter lol.
Higher compression isn't gonna give you low numbers with boost it'll give you more power per psi. It just means you can't run as much boost for each fuel type but also don't need to run as much boost because it makes more power per psi with higher compression. The 4v ford's all the way back to the 03 cobra can do 600+ wheel easily on 93 with a modern blower like this. And that was a 20 year old 4.6. The Ford engines work amazing boosted even the high compression coyotes so throw that can't boost high compression crap out the window. Sounds like you need to come to the dark side lol.
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herb tender *_This was shot 4 years ago!!!_*
@Robert Ambrose ... so tell us all what you really want to say... LoL...
What do you need to do for a chance win ?
An open filter style intake would have probably gotten it to 584HP.
So a CAI?
Just think if you had that thing ported out , add a intake and some injectors with a E85 tune. I definitely think 625 or so
Shorty headers make no difference than stock
fr theyre so pointless. just look at them compared to stock manifolds. they’re the same thing
Waiting for inevitable “Ermygrd! How do I win this??!1!” on a contest that closed 3 years ago.
This time it actually says contest closed in the description
I won this wrapped it around a pole leaving the driveway 😂
Love the genetic Paradise City instrumentals in the back ground. 👍🏼
Generic?
Axl and Slash want to know your location
They use the paradise city ripoff a lot
More torque than a Honda
Four Hondas
Whole Honda lineup combined.
outstanding!!! keep the old episodes coming, lovin it!!!
Oh my favorite! The rip off version of paradise city, like usual!
Also Slow Ride-------take it easy..
I really miss these shows, it's the only time I would watch tv.
I’m a proud owner of a 2011 RS SS camaro. White with the burn orange stripes on 6.3 ? O and it’s paid off 2 👍🏼
Jaime Cervantes lmao v6 😂
@@slowschoolofdriving218 Lol
This channel is pretty awesome, not cable no problem!
I like the cable. I have a 14'' CRT TV.
Son! That ain’t no straight pipe. That’s a cat back system still 🙄
No mufflers.
William Scott Still a cat back system
Actually it's a Axel back muffler delete system
if your doing headers you might as well to long tubes with two high flow cats.
Exactly, high flow cats and long tube make more sense than this setup. Maybe the cost of the cats held them back?
The high flow cats notoriously get clogged on these. (Especially boosted)
Seriously you don't want to have them if you can avoid it
Love the generic interpretation of Paradise CIty.
Then you realize its in STD and not SAE... lol
Graph line wasn't as linear as stock
578 w/ 9 pounds of boost
9:22 I'm genuinely surprised at the lack of plastic clips! Screws and bolts to hold all that plastic on! I converted all of the plastic clips on my car utilizing body bolt/screw clips and nutserts. They secure better and don't break like the worthless plastic clips.
every australian just pissed them selves laughing at that "burnout"
yep your right
Love the channel guys, from Syd Aus...keep that beard going Marc:)
working on cars is like living in paradise city
I'LL Take mine in white Please Black is the Color of Funerals
I know this is a giveaway car, but i want that buick you guys are working😍
2017 was a huge milestone year.......
Gets a 2016 :p i know its the same but still funny
No forged internal upgrades?
5:25 😂😂😂
It’s 2019, and they are still using the late 80’s-90’s intro voice. Like a Micheal bay movie...
Old episode dummy
18:24 They are Not riveted, the automatic cars are the only ones that the cross member bolts in like the one pictured, The manual cars are fully welded in to the frame. The manual cross members are what this mod is designed for. The 6th gen camaro looks to be an easy to mod car compared to the C7.
50 state legal is DAMN good !
419 stock? That’s one generous dyno
Dunkaroos exactly I thought the 6.2 put out 455 from the crank stock so if rwhp is 419 it’s only losing 37 hp that’s kind of low right
A lot depends on what correction factors they're using. You can make a dyno say almost whatever you want if you screw around with things.
Panthers are Beautiful cars.
The gains of improving exhaust in front of and behind something like cats are going to be pretty small. Exhaust ultimately can only flow as much as its most restrictive point. Removing lesser restrictions helps by not adding to it but still limited by the main restriction.
Whats the point of the header's and cat back when you're still restricted by not changing the cat's either off or high flow.
Also after looking thru. you gained nothing from those shorties flow wise compared to the stocks only actual upgrade for that would have been long tubes
Shouldn't it have made more than Edelbrock said since it also had headers and no mufflers?
Fixing to retire soon and would love to have my first Camaro do that in
Great video guys.😎
Was this filmed in 2017?
F150s with stage 3 WhIpples on E85 running 10.8 quarters.
Leave the suitcase. Put long tubes, x-pipe, cat-delete, tune. Your good to go.
dyno graph looks like it needs a little more octane, its riding the ragged edge
What's up with the janki version of paradise city Guns & Roses? I notice you guys do that a lot on these shows. You play some slightly different tune to a popular rock song I don't know if you hope people don't notice or what?
Oop! Budget Paradise City is back
You should always weigh the stock parts and compare to the new. At 3700 pounds every pound less is an improvement.
How much power do shorty headers make on these engines? The LS and now the LT engines basically come with shorty headers from the factory, so I can't see this doing much.
You forgot to tell everyone about needing a special tool to put the A/C belt back on.
It's not a terrible job, if you're dexterous with a screwdriver, you can do it fairly easily
I just did one without the special tool. A screw driver? I had to clamp the belt down to the pulley with 90 degree needle nose pliers and turn the engine over counter clock wise with a big pair of channel locks. I couldn't get all that done with a screwdriver.
He said nipples 🤣🤣🤣
Another cool build. Another shameless rip-off of "Paradise City" o.0
PowerNation.. how are we supposed to register to win the car when their website won’t even work? There’s not even a place where it says to register! I tried submitting my information to the newsletter but that didn’t work either 🤷♂️
chico suave this was about three years ago, that car is long gone
Cringe Master oh ok thanks dude
wasn't this like 3 years ago????
Yup that would be right 2017 model year.....
yes, all these are reruns, but love them for posting these since my service discontinued the channel
Is it possible to do a E Force supercharger on a newer charger or challenger as it's not any good videos on it for chargers or challenger
There's better blowers you can get anyways like a Whipple/Magnussen or Procharger etc.
What is the original stock exhaust size ?
The headers are smog legal?
Why would any logically thinking person go through the efforts to taking off the factory exhaust manifold to put on shorty headers with factory cats smh
George Marris so it’s 50 state legal. If it’s a giveaway that’s kinda what they have to do. 🤷🏼♀️
@@chloehennessey6813 Can switch the cat's with a highflow set and still be legal.
Just received this video and the sweepstakes to win car as mentioned in video is closed?????????
Lol. Yup. Welcome to UA-cam, where Power Nation posts videos from several years ago.
Forged pistons and lower static CR would make more power and last longer...better run race unleaded.
Why waste $10 a gallon when you could get bigger injectors, flex fuel sensor, and run E85 instead. Cheaper than 93.
419 + 15% = 490
Plus 18%. I Had dyno on truck guy said multiply x 18 % so i had 287.5 at wheel x 1.18 = 339 hp @ crank on 377 stroker. To low. Big block now lol
It’s a higher percentage because trucks have a bigger drivetrain loss than cars 15% is the standard on most cars
Coyotes make way more power boosted
But a boosted coyote only lasts 3 year's if you're lucky!
@@thodieousk5853 actually there are alot of videos on here of guys who have done reviews on their high mileage boosted coyotes
Thodieous K no there really good engines they last a long time Evan boosted
@@KevinTorres-xs9cq aMcSpank You never heard of an GM LS motor factory super charged Corvette ,Camaro or CTS ? It's ok Little Boy Junior Mistake..No Factory boosted coyotes because of a weak valve train. 4 cam chains? Ford knows what it's motors can handle!
Read my comment it will help you understand cars Son!
Oh, hey... another Edelbrock EForce.... original...
419 to the wheels is really high for a chassis dyno...
Clobercow1 that’s what I figured. Should have been about 390-400.
Not for a manual
Mine did 415whp stock
no fuel system upgrade hmmmmmm
Nice build 👌, when is your next give away, I been watching videos.but, I'm always behind the give away dead lines, 🤕, can you help me out, I been a sub for awhile plus, watched it on the TV episodes before I ever watched you-tube,👍😀, thank you so much
Not a lot of power for all the labor and cost
Replaced stock shorty headers for shorty headers. SMH
A lot of money spend for small gains in my opinion
5.0 dual fuel mustang is over 500 hp at the wheels with bolt ons and E85..... Sad sad chevy
Yes, only downside is our bolt on are more expensive. thats the only reason chevy is so well liked, aftermarket performance just cheaper.
@@Joebauers2505 if you wanted Fast You should have bought Fast! Coyotes are POS that fall apart not made for boost! Go buy a COBRA or no water in your mother's Bowl!
Sadly I'm gonna have to agree I had 14 Gt with FBOs and tuned. It was no comparison to my brother's C5 with H/C, exhaust & tune the coyotes are soft down low which kills the fun factor. I guess anything can be fun if u throw enough cash at it though.
@@Slvr2k You must not know what your doing. 2nd gen Coyote motors (2015-2017) are made for boost. I’m talking everything from Procharger, Vortech, Paxton, Edelbrock, etc....with proven dyno numbers up to and over 700rwhp. Just get an aggressive tune from Lund or Palm Beach Dyno. Only thing to do beforehand is upgrade the oil pump gears and switch the crankcase to billet pieces and you are good to go!🔥
Why are all the car shows playing that putrid background music? It wouldn't be so bad if they didn't play it when the cars are being road tested... I mean we're gear heads, we want to hear the sound of the engines, not some canned dreck playing over the sound of the engines.
Yeah right , 8,700 on a super charger to pick up 100 hp . That car made 450 factory , so you can 100. With a good hp tuners tune and intake and exhaust they make 475, Edelbrocks products are a joke and where all tired of seeing installs on products you get for free and no one can afford and suck .
Should’ve used on3 performances turbo kit
Agreed that blower is shit. Can literally get a c7 zo6 blower and port it make over 700 wheel for under 5k
@hassanosman523 not on this fuel with no supporting mods. Supporting mods matter alot. I don't mean just fuel stuff I mean the overall setup. Long tubes and full free flowing exhaust is alot better than their setup and would likely be required to touch anything near 700. Also ported helps alot because it gives you a huge inlet inlet restrictions kill you on these kinds of blowers. There is a wide discrepancy of what power you'll make based on your overall setup and supporting mods or lack thereof.
It didn't make 450 factory it made 419. Long ways from 450.
They picked up over 150 hp bro you're pretty bad at math.
Sorry but compared to the ZL1 and the ZL1 1LE, the SS *is* a joke. One buys an SS when one cannot afford a ZL1 (1LE). In the end it costs more to soup up an SS than it would have to have saved up and bought a ZL1 outright, and even with all the modifications, it still cannot handle like a ZL1 on the race track. SS is a dud.
Built motor??
Lmfao no and that supercharger is shit
419Whp bone stock? From a supposedly “455 Stock HP”??
Joe Knapp I hear you, but if those wheel numbers are true then the 455 factory rating is simply me serious sandbagging on GM’s part.
I used to own this car. It should of been about 400whp. Their dyno must reads high because 419whp is kinda high.
@@CWood91
6 speeds have less drivetrain loss
After all of the work on upgrades you probably gained 2 tenths of second faster
Actually, the ZL1 dynos at around 540 wheel HP and clocks 0-60 at 3.5s (vs 4.0s stock ss). At 570+ hp you can see how this car would outperform the ZL1 given the traction isn't a factor.
A set of slicks and its hitting the 1/4 in the 10s. My little brothers 2020 LT1 Camaro is stock and hitting 11.4's with just some drag radials. A stock ss on street tires is hitting 12.8-12.6 in the 1/4. 2 tenths my ass lol
Did your mommy tell you write that? Lmfao
@1LE_LT1 don't get but hurt by the truth
I need that 2016 578 horsepower Camaro. I have a 92 Z28 that's been sitting up for a year cause my wife has been sick. I lost my job back in May cause she almost died from a collapsed lung and the Hospital lost my fmla paperwork. My job let me go. I've now work in Auburn at a Kia supplier in the maintenance department with a longer drive back and forth to work. I'm afraid when i get my Camaro back on the road it's not going to hold up with the original 158k mile 305 tbi.( it's a t-top car ). I need something to get me to work on time. With my wife having end stage COPD between medicine oxygen and doctor bills i can't afford a car payment at this time.
Hope you and your wife are doing well
Electric cars will generate fake ICE noises😜
Anyone ever notice how sad Ford guy's get when you mention a LS
Why would they get sad? The world is big enough for more than one way of doing things.
The only time I get sad at the mention of an ls is when someone puts one in a Ford. Now that is a disgrace. Ford's 4v engines even all the way back to the 03 cobra can easily make over 600 rwhp with a stock long block with a modern blower like this camaro has. And they do it with alot less cubes in case you didn't know the 03 cobra was a 4.6. The 4.6, 5.0, 5.4 and 5.8 all make easy 600-700-800 depending on the blower and overall setup and fuel. This is stock long block I'm talking about. There is sure no reason to be sad about this blown 6.2 doing like 580 wheel lol. Unless you're a gm guy.
420 to the wheels stock, 9 pounds of boost would have a multiplication factor of 1.61 [9 pounds ÷ 14.7= 0.61 + 1= 1.61.....now multiply that to original power level of 420×1.61= 677 hp...that is what it should have after adding 9 pounds of boost...that supercharger is a piece of shit!!!
That math don't always work. The efficiency of the engine greatly effects this. A cammed car with ported heads and long tubes will make a ton more power at the same 9 psi.
coyote ftw
Finally first!
No one cares at all.
POS LS engine has too much compression, hence the low numbers after bolting on the blower. These engines just aren't meant to be boosted from the factory. Probably wouldnt even be able to drive the thing around here on a hot day even with 93 octane. Useless. Keep posting the old stuff, no more of this new car garbage.
Coyotes have been running at least 11:1 compression since 2011 and they easily make over 600 rwhp with basically any blower even on 93 with a stock long block. And this is with a 5 liter lol.
Higher compression isn't gonna give you low numbers with boost it'll give you more power per psi. It just means you can't run as much boost for each fuel type but also don't need to run as much boost because it makes more power per psi with higher compression. The 4v ford's all the way back to the 03 cobra can do 600+ wheel easily on 93 with a modern blower like this. And that was a 20 year old 4.6. The Ford engines work amazing boosted even the high compression coyotes so throw that can't boost high compression crap out the window. Sounds like you need to come to the dark side lol.