Can We Upgrade a '08 Z06 Corvette to Outperform a '15 Z06 For Half the Cost? - Engine Power S2,E17
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- Опубліковано 6 лют 2025
- C6 Z06 gets new Track Day brake package, suspension upgrades, sticky tires plus get more LS7 power with long-tube headers.
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Continental Tire: Continental Tire, Extreme Contact Dw, 275/35/18 Front, 325/30/19 Rear
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Edelbrock: Supercharger System, E-Force, Serpentine, Black Powder coated, Intercooler, Chevy, 7.0L, Kit
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JBA Performance Exhaust Co.: JBA 06-11 Z06 Catted X-pipe for JBA Longtube Headers
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JBA Performance Exhaust Co.: Headers, Long Tube, Full-length, Stainless Steel, Silver Ceramic Coated, Chevy, 7.0L, Pair
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Power Stop: Z23 Evolution Sport Track Day Performance 1-Click Brake Kit
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QA1: Shock, Twin Tube, QA1 Stocker Star, 15.880 in. Extended, 10.880 in. Collapsed, Each
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QA1: Shock, Twin Tube, QA1 Stocker Star, 16.190 in. Extended, 11.200 in. Collapsed, Each
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American Powertrain Systems: Clutch Kit With Hydraulic Bearing Assembly For C6 Corvette
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PowerNation I opened the info to much disappointment when I saw the sweepstakes were now closed. Guess I missed it...Dang! When was this actually done?
@@quickgearshifter2719 before 2015, as the video stated verbatim, prior to the new 2015 Z06 being introduced.
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PowerNation *_DO A SHOW ON SLIPPER CLUTCHES!!!_*
“Make sure you use a 2 post lift. We wouldn’t even attempt this on jack stands”
Cleetus Cooper and James: Hold my beer and watch us do this countless times at the track on jack stands
lol I've seen my buddy remove hsi entire drivetrain and motor on his f1x c6z twice in a day, and put it back in twice as well all in the same single day. He's powered by about 40k of weed a year though
Chrisfix would've changed the rear main seal as preventive maintenance, along with the pilot bearing.
Yep.. all that trouble to get to it you would think they would have done that. Not like it's a ton of money to replace those.
Agree with you there! Why not just do it?
@ Yea I have never thought the work done here was exceptional by any means.
Chrisfix is awesome
@@TEFLONDONTRUMP2024
He's both entertaining, and super helpful. I love watching his videos, and I don't even own a car anymore.
C6’s will always be the best vette in my eyes. Especially the zr-1
I think the look is perfect 👍😁
Idk a 2019 zr1 with a wing delete is the fastest and prettiest Corvette
Soundz By Que _ I actually like the C6Z06 better thanthe C6ZR1, but imo the C7 Z’s look better than any vett to date
I use to think that but the c7 is so much better in every facet imaginable. When you get inside a c6 they feel so dated. Fuck my GTO kills a c6 interior and comfort wise.
Jacob Herron yea of course. I drove one before and you absolutely right about the interior. Then again i’m not worry about interior I like performance lol. C7s are very beautiful cars.
I have about $45k total invested in my 2008 Z06 (I know it's not worth that much. Engine upgrades costed around $10k - money I'll never see again, but it sure makes the car fun!). Anyway, it's just a naturally aspirated Heads/cam/exhaust LS7. No supercharger, turbos, or nitrous. Since it weighs just 3100 pounds, and now produces 660 hp, it will outperform any stock C7 Z06, Hellcat Redeye, and even the 2020 C8. The LS7 (with aftermarket heads) is a beast of a motor. It's the most fun I have ever had driving on the street.
Cleetus can change out a clutch in both his vettes in under a hour
HELL Yeah Brotha
Johnathan Gillespie best reply ever 👌🏽😂😂
To be fair though, can we really call Leroy a Corvette anymore?
@@sparkplug1018 The title states it.
@@MedicatedOMO We all know what the car is based on. But come on is it really a Corvette anymore.
I’m so glad that this UA-cam channel exists. I’m addicted to this stuff
I love the look of the C6 Z06 idk why even though it doesn’t look that much different from a regular coupe its just a great looking car
My favorite dream car especially jet stream blue. It’s been on the locked page of my I-Pad for the last 15 years.
But the ipad was released 9 years ago
@@owenalphamgb7556 dont disrespect time travelers dude. They can do some crazy stuff.
@@Sak-zo1ui ha great stuff
I would just do a cam/heads swap on that LS7. It'll produce about 625 hp and no blower and all the issues it brings with it. It's 1/3rd the cost of that blower kit. And if you're going to rip out the drive train to replace the clutch/flywheel, replace the $5.00 rear main seal.
And pilot bearing. They do hack work.
@ Yep. If you're going to remove the drivetrain, replace the stupid simple things that wear normally. Especially on a car that has been beaten to death. I wouldn't want this car.
WYAIT is the rule of the land of high performance and older cars.
I've always loved the C6 Z06 but I never realized how much of a pain in the ass it is to work on
A c5 is just as bad
"...pain in the ass..."
Just a gentle reminder that Colossians 3:8 instructs us not to use vulgar language. Ignore God's rules for living at your own peril.
@@jhrsjhrs In a mechanics garage all that no cussing bullshit goes right out the door
Reality instructs us differently in the real world.
They're actually very easy to work on. Don't let pulling the drivetrain out of the car intimidate you. It's very easy. One of if not the easiest car i have ever worked on.
Scratch the Super Charger if you do it right you can get 600 to 650 at the wheels N/A Heads / Cam / Intake / Exhaust / Throttle Body / Cold Air Intake /Injectiors / Fuel System etc. Probably need a stronger clutch too
A brand new 18 minute video on C6 Z06 in 2019 ... I'm freaking aroused.
sameeeeeeeee i came
I did this on a 09 zo6 on the floor with jack stands by myself.😂 probably one of the harder jobs I’ve done on jack stands .but it can be done also rebuilt the torque tube and added a twin disk . These cars are a lot of fun 👍🏻
Very good show. Really helps to have a buddy and a lift. I have the same car, similar mods but use one of those quickjacks only 3ft lift and often no help.
Takes me 18 months to do this job in rare spare time.
"We would never attempt this on a set of jack stands." I have done a clutch swap on a C5 Z06 and a C6 GS and both was on jack stands. I also was by myself the whole time. Its not easy and a lift is definitely a huge help but you can do it on jack stands just fine.
In addition to jack stands, did you have to use 1, 2 or 3 jacks during the process? Thanks
@deadend Nothing dangerous about putting a car up on jack stands, it's literally a safety device to use when you jack a car up so it doesn't collapse on you in the first place.
@deadend Not sure you've ever worked under a car on jack stands before, there is literally nothing dangerous about it. Less room, sure. But at the same time... you have a jack on the trans when you drop it in either situation anyhow.
@deadend Except we're talking about a jack **stand** not a jack. You need a jack for both the lift or the jack stands anyhow, for removal of any parts you're dropping from underneath. You're not under the car very much to drop a transmission, as you're lowering it down onto a jack to pull it out. A jack stand is the exact same material as a hydraulic lift, they're both steel. One just has a hydraulic cylinder to move it up and down. Sure the jack stands don't lift it up as high, but you don't need to stand under a car to work on it, your grandfather did it long before those lifts became wide spread. Guess what they used then?
I've done it three times and need to do it again. Damn slave cylinder is leaking. Not looking forward to it at all.
First class video with precise photography! Nicely organized!
That Corvette is beautiful. I hope to see the additional episodes online. (:
10:06 You can also just remove that bolt to the right and the shifter rod will slide off
i honestly prefer the C6 over the C7, so this is awesome!
Haven't watched the Video. The answer is absolutely yes. The C6Z doesn't need much at all to outperform a C7Z
Corrie Elieff msd TB too
His advice for a lift is great and I wish I had one when I replaced the clutch on my buddy's 240sx. 2 1/2 feet of space is so hard to work with.
Lol I pulled the subframe off the corvette about 5 times. On jack stands. Got good at it. Was able to do it in an hour. Not a bad job. Only thing that is annoying is the center heat shield.
You can add a supercharger to a C6 and get equal power, but it will never keep up with the C7 as far as handling. Between the much stiffer frame to the electronic rear differential and electronic steering rack the C7 simply handles noticeably better. I've had both the C6 and currently have the C7, both Z06's, and the C7 is much more stable and planted, and gives you much more confidence in the twisties.
Nice video. Since you had the torque tube out, I would have checked the couplers. They are known to fail and cause increased vibration. Cheap to through a couple new couplers in.
Thanks for this Vid, Guys! Gave me a kickback of changing the clutch of a lancia integrale at night, in the winter at Monte Classics... Thumbs Up!
I owned a Corvette C6. I will take the C7 Z06 anytime!
Now I’ll tell you what. There isn’t a damn thing you can’t do on jack stands and a few busted knuckles. Changed a transmission in 3 foot of snow on jack stands
i teh ya HWAT
You da man 👍😁
Ok boomer
was it uphill both ways?
thatallredheadude 1 yoir got damn right it was
Well damn don't burn up that clutch look like a pain to replace
Makes you understand how stupid that video is of the guy that thought he was doing a killer burnout but was smoking out his clutch. Watch it if you like to cringe ;
@@bailey9r “that was not the tires” lol
@@yungtooli ?
@@bailey9r thats what the guy recording said in the video you’re talking about after the guy roasted his clutch
@@yungtooli Oh very good that's correct! ;
Honestly the C4 ZR1 and C6 ZR1 are my favorite Corvettes of all time
I'm not sure why you would buy a c6 z06 and supercharge it (unless you're building the motor). You can make over 600whp (650+ crank) with heads/cam/intake/headers. Let that 7L breathe!
Exactly why I stopped the video soon as i saw the blower. Disappointed they didn’t go max effort NA🤦🏾♂️
That should make them work, that’s some cool engineering right there
If ya done an RaceProveMotorsports, "RPM," Cam package, w/ full intake & exhaust, they have made 650WHP, saved weight, prly cost less, and been a better car all around. Then put a blower on, lulz.
Haha ya I thought they were going to upgrade the heads and cam as that would definitely make it more competitive against the c7.
Advanced induction 280 cc cnc work on the stock heads, 1 7/8" headers, RPM B-3 cam (some are saying the actual spec is 243/259 .623 .623 116), ported Msd intake manifold, Halltec or Vararam intake, plus a good tune would have got them to 640-660 horsepower at the wheels (540-560 ft lbs of rear wheel trq)
@@GTStuning- I've always wondered what the specs were on that B-3 cam. Have these numbers been confirmed?
Back in the day I used to be a Corvette specialist.. I worked 5 years at a dealership. And did a lot of heavy work on the high-end cars... You'd have to pay me an exorbitant amount of money nowadays to touch the last two generations of Corvettes..
after having removed my c6 drivetrain twice using jackstands.. I'd definitely second the sentiment of using a lift if possible. I see now why so many C6 are heavily modded. It's so labor intensive to do some jobs it's almost better to just take the whole car apart one time and put all the mods on as you reassemble the car. I sure hope this car's torque tube couplers and bearings were at least inspected before being put back in. (yes, I realize this video old.) The C6 is a love/hate car for sure. Love driving on it, beginning to hate working on it.
I did. I spent 33k on my Z06 and 15k on my Supercharger, trans upgrades, and coilovers. 855rwhp later.
WOW!🙀😎👍
Kim Chi now it’s a super car killer 🤘
Cali Angler he spent $48,000 to beat a $70,000 hellcat stock my factory.
Pretty good numbers if you ask me.
Out another $15k in and you’d walk just about anything stock.
Jarrod G he could have easily gone the n/a route with doing his heads, bigger cam, some bolt ons and e85 and it would easily take out hellkitties all day
Cali Angler you're delusional
"on it's last leg" are you effing kidding me, that shit looks brand new.
Did they film this like 4 years ago?
yes
@@ethanhiggins4887 makes sense... when they talkked about the 2015 Z06 being the fastest yet I was like uhhhh the C7 ZR1 hello?? Lol
@@nickadkins7765 I was just saying that lol
So now that its 2020 and you can get a c7 z06 for 45k you're saying just get c7.
@@guyod1 no you can't lol
I can confirm you can drop that driveline on jack stands. You’re cramped underneath it but you sure can do it.
I would've replaced the pilot bearing also. The needle bearings go bad and can cause drive line vibrations. Being a GM technician and doing it under GM warranty,you were careful with checking all components didn't want to do the job for free.
They didn’t mention thread locker on the flywheel bolts, but surely they used some?
From The Ford brothers To Mike !
What about the valve dropping issue with that 7.0? Should of really done something before it does something. Also you didn’t replace the pilot bearing, big no no.
H&P Customs not their problem after they give it away.
@@RadDadisRad lmaooo that's fucked up
These guys do this sort of stupid shit on every build. It's stunning.
I guess if you win it then you can fix it.
There was a video they did on a mustang where they drilled and tapped into the oil pan while it was still on the car. They show you so many things to not do to cars. I also would never drive one of their cars. It would be sold if I ever won one.
I won’t even go past the first 5 seconds of this video, and whole heartedly say “yes you can!”.
The new Vette is made for dudes who wear pink polo shirts with the collar up and penny loafers without socks.
Engine front, tranny middle, drive wheels rear…that’s the formula for dudes with swingin’ Johnson’s.
I wish these guys could be the mechanic for my future vette!
You can easily do a clutch swap on these on jack stands. I sat and watched a guy do it in his garage.
I can’t WAIT to get my c8 in July and turn my 12 grand sport into a super beat.....lets go!
So glad I didn't have to wait until next week
keep up the good work guys, but i woulda changed the rear seal n bearing and done the other motor mount as well
Before even watching I know the answer to your title is YES. Hell you can get a C5 there too.
This is what makes UA-cam great.
You can learn how to do jobs like this from professionals.
Back in the day you had to get your local mech drunk or stoned and interrogate him the whole time he is getting high and hope he knows wtf he is saying.
UA-cam made life easier.
It's nice to see Amish Mike outside the dyno cell & getting some exercise working on a real car
Love the c6 z06 - 10/10
c6 z06 with the 7 liter is the best way to go in my opinion. no replacement for displacement!
You can make more than lt4 with an N/A setup on that ls7
Wagner brake pads say to cut noise. They have to chamfer them. Why Power Stop don't chamfer their pads?
PowerStop.. actually have a set on my 2014 V6 Mustang. They've worked pretty well so far. Think they're the Z23s.
C7 is by far the pinnacle of Corvette.
Lots of people prefer the looks, much lighter weight, and NA 427 of the C6Z...
The brakes Guy Kris Miller looks like Ryan Gosling out of a parallel universe
This was the build that made me rethink my desire of owning a Corvette, particularly when seeing all the work that Mike and Pat had to do in order to do the transmission swap
I still want one but because of the size of my upper back it's really uncomfortable. I can get in a one but it makes me really claustrophobic.
DAYUM a supercharged LS7 sounds awesome !!!!!!
Feel like I just watched one really long commercial.
Me when it come on when I was 12
I read somewhere that GM had built a 454LS engine based off the LS7427(really426). However they couldn't get it to pass emissions. So they moved on to adding blowers. But somewhere that engine exists.
It would be cool to see a Hotrod story about it!
Theres a lot of engines that GM (among others) have made that are along those lines. No doubt they made a LS 454, they were also developing a factory V12 and V16 at one point like 10-12 years ago. If you want to know where they are now, id say take a look at that soda can you may be drinking from and theres a good chance a bit of it is in there.
Pat, can you do a video of what is all in your shirt pocket please? Thank you!
Haven’t seen the part where you all take it on the track at the Corvette museum, also didn’t see it on your playlist
Gotta love talking heads or editors that don't know anything about cars.
POWER UPGRADES! (Shows footage of the transmission) LOL.
Just like the carbon fiber 6 piston brembo brakes
You don’t need boost in a c6 z. Heads , cam , ported msd intake, cold air , ported tb and you have 580-620whp na add e85 and you have 650 whp n/a. At the lowest and smallest cam 550-580 whp that will bot race a c7 z which makes 550-570 whp 580-600 wtq stock in both et and trap speed. You add boost and it’s not even fair for the c7 z it’s to heavy at 3570 the c6 z can weight 3109-3200 or less with light weight wheels and headers . Second those brakes are two heavy you want 2 piece rotors with aluminum hats those are one piece and heavy.
Ive always liked the 09 zr1 more then the newer corvettes
C6 corvette is king.
How the hell have I not found this channel sooner... UA-cam has failed me
Wish these were AWD. I had a Hellcat Challenger and I could never get it to hook correctly either.
Great episode keep them coming!
Awesome video. Love the older z06.
Nice job, why not just replace both motor mounts?.
super well made content! oddly i get wheeler dealer vibes (the brithish show where they buy a used car and restore and sell it)! i mean that in the most positive way. i know its not the same but the camera work and narration is similar ! new sub here
I’d still take one of these any day over the mid-engine models
I agree with the real main seal comment - replace it while in there. Why not rebuild the torque tube also while it’s out of the car given the power upgrade and past track use …
18:06 the tuned performance indicators allow you to know how soon they want more money from you
That motor mount probly what the chatter can from
16:50 I love the car and the mods are great. However if as you say you want to "Give back to our customers" giving a single car away to one person isn't the way to do it. (Congrats to the winner). How about giving a special discount on the brakes to all customers as well. That would actually "Give back to the customers".
They gave to you in spirit. He enjoys it for all the customers.😂🤣😅
I had a ZO6 2008 the car was a nightmare Val's dropping and GM never was responsible for any of it. Stopped at a red light Val dropped into the motor I would never buy one again. GM did not stand behind their product and knew it had a problem never again but nice video
Did your block crack or was it just that one cylinder and piston with valve that were ruined?
@@Texas_Cruiser I ended up replacing the motor $14,000 brand new crate engine. Anyone buying a C6 ZO6 replace the heads. The motor is tremendous but those heads are terrible.
@@garyrichardson7592 goodness gracious they couldn't just repair that cylinder or bore and stroke the motor? And about your experience with GM...supposedly it was on a tiny percentage of cars so did not warrant a recall...key word supposedly. Just the fact that it's even possible to happen and the severity of it should warrant a recall or extended warranty!
@@Texas_Cruiser just my luck to get one it wasn't the boar it was the heads.if I had known I would have put a different set of heads on the car. I have a new Z06 now convertible zo7 and it goes into limp mode at 160 so I'm getting ready to have it tuned it's running out of fuel upstairs 116,000 and this is what I'm getting at 160.
And I have two rims that's cracked from poor quality the Corvette I hope the new one is much better do I'm going to have to get me a Porsche maybe I'll get better quality I like the Corvette I'm on number 15. They won't even replace these rims that's bending on everyone the ZO6 and Grand sport wow
It was nice right up to the black rims I dont like black rims they were fine the way they were.
What if you don’t have a 2 post lift? Most garage concrete floors aren’t thick enough to safely support a 2 post lift.
Great pen collection.
I would of updated the torque tube while you had the assembly down . Big failure point on the stock ones
Should’ve changed the main rear seal while you were in there. Also why not a single turbo to make power?
Nice to see Ryan Gosling's haggard older brother came by for a visit.
Looking to buy a 2008 zo6. Once I find the one I want it will be mine
that clutch job is a nightmare
Now I know what the indents in my forehead are for never noticed them until hair loss so like the tires my performance isn't fully optimized my indents are showing. I'm glad my wife hasn't seen this video
You can tell they had no say in these parts what a hodge pog
Pro chargers add 50% increase horsepower so 750 hp is easy with the ultimate ls engine
All you need are stickers. Lots of stickers.
What's the HISTORY OF AMERICAN MUSCLE gonna do if Mike goes you know !
Genuine question. Why not Wilwood or Brembos? I mean other than sponsors LOL. Would you prefer powerstop or brembos/wilwoods?
I will bet $20 new stock shocks ride better that the aftermarket one.
That's one bad ass Ford
🤤🤤 mouth watering Chevrolet performance
I cannot believe you did not do a Dino run prior to the engine work and exhaust. Instead you use your Dyno machine as a parts counter. Also I hope in the next video it shows you addressing the head problems that are major issues with this particular years and engine. There's videos on here of people leaving the dealership and had gone a couple of blocks away and had to be towed back to the dealer. GM is aware of the issue what has refused to fix. It's just like Ford's with their 6.0 diesels they are aware there's major issues but but refuse to fix. Anybody with Gen 6 Corvettes that are ZO6 have a saying have you fixed your problem with your heads and if you haven't yet it's just a matter of time before it goes.
Does anyone use threadlocker on the flywheel or pressure plate bolts?
Also, I always thought C5 and later Corvettes have a rear transaxle...? A combination transmission-differential unit. This is clearly not the case as the video shows the transmission and differential being separated.
Like Jay Leno, he said carbon fiber brakes...lol