I truly believe shopping locally from a breeder is the best way to go. Less transit time and you can see what you are getting. Tank is coming along nicely.
I want to add some discus to my tank of electric blue acara and albino threadfin heckelii. I have the temperature around 77 set in my tank. How much daily or weekly should increase my temperature to get to 82 for the discus?
I bought 7 otocinclus and 8 german blue rams from JW. All the fish arrived extremely thin with 1 oto DOA. I quarantined everyone, but eventually lost 5 of the German rams and 5 of the otos. I will never buy fish from JW again. I have found other vendors that sell healthy fish.
I gotta say i was very disappointed when i saw the quality of discus Gabe sent you. he had huge shoes to fill from Jack, and that's not good. chicago discus should be the quality from Watley. Amazing fish. I'm glad you found them. love this set up!
I agree. I’m glad I didn’t Oder from them plus the shipping is extremely too high. Everyone dotes on how good they are but I believe they just get too many in and can’t keep up. I’m thinking discus Hans might be better or about the same. Shoot I can get them from Petco and actually see what I’m getting and they special order.
@Makia Pierson Yeah i have to agree to some point to that as well... Just don't think i want to because I've always looked up to Jack Wattley. Gabe is going in his own direction with the company which is good but you still need quality fish to supply your customers with. I'd expect those from a common shop or pet co but not Jack. oh well. Hopefully things get better with him
I know you took a loss but I think these new discus colors look so much better together. I’ve learned that sometimes getting fish from a small breeder is better than a larger distributor. I’m currently preparing for a discus set up I think. Great content as always.
Dear I hv 80 glow tetra and 20 tiger barbs in 80 gal tank with 10 gal sump filter total 90 gal tank. Can I add discus in same tank with Glow Tetra and Tiger barbs
Taking the off chance that someone can give me some guidance. I'm thinking about setting up a 175g or larger, maybe 250g discus tank. I'll be living in Houston TX that has hard water and high ph. Around 8.0. What kind of filtration would you recommend, but also is there some sort of system that can be fitted to the kitchen sink that would provide softer water. Perhaps like a reverse osmosis type thing? My other thought is doing a rainbows tank since they already like harder water. But I'm thinking it's got to have a canister filter, or what is the best type of filtration for a 250g freshwater tank?
Troy, Beautiful tank the discus are not cheap and to loose 3 of them ouch. Cory cats i noticed are hit and miss. They may have been poisoned if they were in a bag of 6 that is probably what killed them. When they get stressed they release a poison under there tail and it probably affected them and it was to late. It is common cory cat poisoning. The german blues are great fish they seem delicate if parameters arent good. I just had one die on me but i think it was from being bullied to much. I pulled him out of the tank and put him in a different peaceful tank but he didn't make it. If your looking for some more bottom feeding fish i recommend black kuhli loaches they would look so good on that lighter sand. A school of 6 of them. Because 6 Cory in a 90 gal it is going to take them a long time to clean up lol. Some rasboras are great tank mates and great schooling fish. I did just add a kribensis to my 20 long community tank. He is my center piece fish and a show stopper. Appreciate you being real on here and showing us your struggles to.
Awesome tank! I have always wanted discus but they are a delicate fish. My water is very hard so it would be a battle to keep the ph lower. My water ph is over 8
I'm glad to see that your new discus are so amazing, this fish is a nightmare to find in excellent quality, many many shops have them but a few of them are top notch, you've been unlucky with the red torquoises
You should never have different fish with discus fish maybe Ted nose but never like bottom feeder like alge cleaning or placo they're to cleaning up your discus as food instead
I think it's a very smart move to not include the pleco. Those Cories will look great in there. Thanks for the video. I can't keep a tank that size but it was fun to see your journey with it.
About a week ago I got my shipment from Chicago Discus. Absolutely stunning fish in excellent health. I got 2 Classic Leos, Golden Checkerboard, Golden, Penang Eruption and a Blue Diamond. Looking at already ordering 2 more 😂 hopefully they start settling soon and eat for me more regularly. 20/10
Funny thing is I live like 20 minutes away from Jack Wattley and after reading the reviews on Google I was definitely skeptical about his shop, now I’m watching this video and it’s making it worse lol. I’m still going to walk in there and just hand pick 4 discus to start with and I’ll be my own judge of that. Everything is telling me not to go there but I’m still going 😂
@@CichlidBros went to Wattleys but didn’t like the scene, ended up buying local about an hour away grabbed 2 leopards 2 melons and 2 pigeon bloods. I have a 180 with white sand and this very big red wood piece with just some type of orange rock that has a lot of white quartz. I know I got a lot of red going but looks mint. Thanks for video though definitely understand why your fish didn’t make it from there now.
Beautiful I’m about to set up a 90 gal corner tank I scored at a LFS for $150! I’m finishing up the stand repainting ! It’s gonna be a Discus tank too! 🎉❤
I thought you shouldn't mix Discus from different sources. I have some of the Stenker Discus from Hans, but that whole breeding program has been shut down. Did you have to add anything to the aquarium to allow the Discus to be able to mix like a chemical or anything?
Awesome discus tank,did you installed UV light on it,I’m not lucky with discus IDK why I tried small ones,big ones but it didn’t does well and lose them.i’ve been good with tanganyikan and Malawi cichlids.even red bellied piranhas and South American cichlids
That's really unfortunate you had an issue with Jack wattleys discus I have 9 discus from them and they're doing great even when I had an issue in the beginning I reached out and they were great on helping me out with getting them back to good health other than that beautiful discu you picked out
You should consider doing the triple medication treatment that Aquarium Co-op recommends for all new fish. Might have saved that second batch of fish in your quarantine system.
I’m full marine now but this makes me get a small discus tank again. I bought multiple fish from Miranda she is amazing. I do miss my yellow checkerboard and snow leopard I got from her.
Nice tank. But you clearly need more plants get a bunch of stem plants and floating tanks. Will keep the quality of water great and then you won't need to do many water changes. Also get clean up crew fish. It will be a low maintenance tank
Not necessarily. In the opinion of another UA-cam channel the more stuff you have for them the hide behind the less you will see the. He has a centerpiece that consists of driftwood and plants and his discus are gorgeous. As a matter of fact he has more than one tank with them.
@@makiarn777 yes but I would sacrifice that with not having to do water changes 2 times a week. That's madness.with plants he could limit water changes to 1 time a month or even once every 3 months!
Awesome tank! I have always admired discus tanks. What type of water are you using? Tap or R/O? If tap what are your water parameters? If R/O what do you reconstitute it to?
Been waiting for your new upload. Beautiful fish and tank. ❤️
Thanks for tuning in!
I truly believe shopping locally from a breeder is the best way to go. Less transit time and you can see what you are getting. Tank is coming along nicely.
I’ve learned this as well and agree
WOW awesome 👍❤it
Gorgeous tank!
Thanks!
I want to add some discus to my tank of electric blue acara and albino threadfin heckelii. I have the temperature around 77 set in my tank. How much daily or weekly should increase my temperature to get to 82 for the discus?
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Troy do you wormer your discus
I bought 7 otocinclus and 8 german blue rams from JW. All the fish arrived extremely thin with 1 oto DOA. I quarantined everyone, but eventually lost 5 of the German rams and 5 of the otos. I will never buy fish from JW again. I have found other vendors that sell healthy fish.
Ah dang, sorry to hear you had a rough experience too
So you are not gonna talk about the random tetra in the middle of the school of rummynose ?
Haha yeah there’s one that snuck in the order. Not sure what type of tetra
Beautiful tank. Thank you for also sharing your struggles as I'm sure we can all relate to that. Keep up the awesome videos
I gotta say i was very disappointed when i saw the quality of discus Gabe sent you. he had huge shoes to fill from Jack, and that's not good. chicago discus should be the quality from Watley. Amazing fish. I'm glad you found them. love this set up!
I agree. I’m glad I didn’t Oder from them plus the shipping is extremely too high. Everyone dotes on how good they are but I believe they just get too many in and can’t keep up. I’m thinking discus Hans might be better or about the same. Shoot I can get them from Petco and actually see what I’m getting and they special order.
@Makia Pierson Yeah i have to agree to some point to that as well... Just don't think i want to because I've always looked up to Jack Wattley. Gabe is going in his own direction with the company which is good but you still need quality fish to supply your customers with. I'd expect those from a common shop or pet co but not Jack. oh well. Hopefully things get better with him
Petco? Good luck.
"I'm in dept up to my eye balls"
Amazing tank! I love Discus and Rummy Nose Tetras together too. Beautiful colors!
Awesome pickups, the tank is really coming together nicely! Loved the sequence of zoolander clips! lol. Keep the quality content coming!
Can definitely relate to the struggles Troy haha. It's looking great though, and when those plants grow in it's going to be even more stunning.
I know you took a loss but I think these new discus colors look so much better together. I’ve learned that sometimes getting fish from a small breeder is better than a larger distributor. I’m currently preparing for a discus set up I think. Great content as always.
Thank you! Definitely enjoying the new colors more now 👌🏻
Awesome additions to your tank! The colors and patterns are beautiful
Thank you!
Beautiful tank and fish! Sorry you had such a bad experience ordering them online.
Looks incredible, Troy!!!
Thanks man!
Great looking fish and set up!
Dear I hv 80 glow tetra and 20 tiger barbs in 80 gal tank with 10 gal sump filter total 90 gal tank. Can I add discus in same tank with Glow Tetra and Tiger barbs
Thanks for sharing. A beautiful transformation.
Thanks for watching!
Adding discus from multiple sources without proper QT is a big risk. Im very glad it worked out for you!
Taking the off chance that someone can give me some guidance. I'm thinking about setting up a 175g or larger, maybe 250g discus tank. I'll be living in Houston TX that has hard water and high ph. Around 8.0. What kind of filtration would you recommend, but also is there some sort of system that can be fitted to the kitchen sink that would provide softer water. Perhaps like a reverse osmosis type thing? My other thought is doing a rainbows tank since they already like harder water. But I'm thinking it's got to have a canister filter, or what is the best type of filtration for a 250g freshwater tank?
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Sorry for your struggle. I'd sop buying fish from Jack Whatley 😊
Rummy nose really are great alarm systems for tanks. Good choice 🎉
Are you using fertilizer or root tabs for your plants?
Agreed! And yep, I use root tabs and easy green fertilizer
is not a healthy discus from jack wattley , Chicago discus is good quality, Jack wattley is only the name , not recommended to buy on jack wattley
Hi, that's a great video. Have you noticed any peppering on the discus since the background is black?
How do you know how many fish to put in a tank? I’m upgrading to a 90gallon but unsure how to plan how many fish I can have.
Just get 1 bule diamond or cobalt blue and see the difference it will make to your tank.. Just one more though :-)
Beautiful combo of discus
That leopard and penang really stand out among the 4 new additions! Love your videos bros keep em coming !
Thank you! Excited to have them!
Your older fish are very skinny, don't you wonder?
Troy,
Beautiful tank the discus are not cheap and to loose 3 of them ouch. Cory cats i noticed are hit and miss. They may have been poisoned if they were in a bag of 6 that is probably what killed them. When they get stressed they release a poison under there tail and it probably affected them and it was to late. It is common cory cat poisoning. The german blues are great fish they seem delicate if parameters arent good. I just had one die on me but i think it was from being bullied to much. I pulled him out of the tank and put him in a different peaceful tank but he didn't make it. If your looking for some more bottom feeding fish i recommend black kuhli loaches they would look so good on that lighter sand. A school of 6 of them. Because 6 Cory in a 90 gal it is going to take them a long time to clean up lol. Some rasboras are great tank mates and great schooling fish. I did just add a kribensis to my 20 long community tank. He is my center piece fish and a show stopper. Appreciate you being real on here and showing us your struggles to.
Awesome tank! I have always wanted discus but they are a delicate fish. My water is very hard so it would be a battle to keep the ph lower. My water ph is over 8
Those 2 tiger turquoise looked emaciated 😢 Disappointing..
It wasn’t the best order from Jack Wattley. I treated the tank
Best tanks on Youtoobe! 90 is such a good size too
Thank you, appreciate that!
I'm glad to see that your new discus are so amazing, this fish is a nightmare to find in excellent quality, many many shops have them but a few of them are top notch, you've been unlucky with the red torquoises
You should never have different fish with discus fish maybe Ted nose but never like bottom feeder like alge cleaning or placo they're to cleaning up your discus as food instead
Not sure what this comment is trying to say, but you can absolutely have bottom dwellers like corys and Plecos with discus. They’re ideal tank mates
I lost my tiger turquoise there too.
I think it's a very smart move to not include the pleco. Those Cories will look great in there. Thanks for the video. I can't keep a tank that size but it was fun to see your journey with it.
you need more blue in the tank
About a week ago I got my shipment from Chicago Discus. Absolutely stunning fish in excellent health. I got 2 Classic Leos, Golden Checkerboard, Golden, Penang Eruption and a Blue Diamond. Looking at already ordering 2 more 😂 hopefully they start settling soon and eat for me more regularly. 20/10
That’s awesome! I’m loving mine as well 👌🏻
7:05 so your refill with tap straight from the faucet and then add the prime? What about the chlorine? Is that work instant?
Yep. Prime removes all toxins and works quickly. Never had an issue
Dude way too much water flow in the tank for discus
Yeah that’s incorrect. Two filters is fine.
love the discus
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Bro tank dimensions?
Funny thing is I live like 20 minutes away from Jack Wattley and after reading the reviews on Google I was definitely skeptical about his shop, now I’m watching this video and it’s making it worse lol. I’m still going to walk in there and just hand pick 4 discus to start with and I’ll be my own judge of that. Everything is telling me not to go there but I’m still going 😂
Best of luck!
@@CichlidBros went to Wattleys but didn’t like the scene, ended up buying local about an hour away grabbed 2 leopards 2 melons and 2 pigeon bloods. I have a 180 with white sand and this very big red wood piece with just some type of orange rock that has a lot of white quartz. I know I got a lot of red going but looks mint. Thanks for video though definitely understand why your fish didn’t make it from there now.
I watch your videos, where do you usually buy these fish?
I got these discus locally at Chicago Discus
Do you know the nitrate level with two 25% water change weekly?
Stays around 5-10ppm
Beautiful. My next goal tank
Thank you, and awesome!
Now it looks beautiful. But discus are not the easiest fish. I've had them in my aquarium for years, and I'm still learning something about them 👍👍👍
Did any die?
Beautiful I’m about to set up a 90 gal corner tank I scored at a LFS for $150! I’m finishing up the stand repainting ! It’s gonna be a Discus tank too! 🎉❤
Awesome, love to hear it!
hi were all the discus german or Asian?
Imported from Malaysia
This tank looks amazing!Love the colors on the new discus you added.
Thank you!
I have four Discus tanks and most of mine are from Myrtle Beach Discus. Discus Hans and Chicago Discus are on my list to order from soon!
I'd recommend Chicago Discus for sure!
@CichlidBros I watched your video and they definitely have great colors and quality of Discus.
So beautiful omg I love them 💜
I thought you shouldn't mix Discus from different sources. I have some of the Stenker Discus from Hans, but that whole breeding program has been shut down. Did you have to add anything to the aquarium to allow the Discus to be able to mix like a chemical or anything?
Awesome discus tank,did you installed UV light on it,I’m not lucky with discus IDK why I tried small ones,big ones but it didn’t does well and lose them.i’ve been good with tanganyikan and Malawi cichlids.even red bellied piranhas and South American cichlids
Your Discus tank is beautiful!
Thank you!
That's really unfortunate you had an issue with Jack wattleys discus I have 9 discus from them and they're doing great even when I had an issue in the beginning I reached out and they were great on helping me out with getting them back to good health other than that beautiful discu you picked out
Awesome video
Thanks man!
I just fish in like yolo, fuck it. Many happy healthy fish.
Love the Discus! Do you have a video on your quarantine process for new fish? Would love to hear about your method.
Nice fish
Thanks!
Die Neuzugänge sind wirklich wunderschön und offensichtlich gesund! 👍
Thank you!!
Beautiful new additions
Thank you!
How much each discus cost....
Quite a bit. The new ones ranged $75-125 a piece
@@CichlidBros that’s insane. Is there at least a multiple-item discount or coupon that can be applied?
Great fish.
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I am planning to get 3-4 Discus in my 65 gal tank however given their max size i think they need a bigger tank. Lovely Discus though!
Thanks!
You should consider doing the triple medication treatment that Aquarium Co-op recommends for all new fish. Might have saved that second batch of fish in your quarantine system.
Yeah I usually do a variation of that for QT. Unfortunately these just weren’t gonna be saved
I’m full marine now but this makes me get a small discus tank again. I bought multiple fish from Miranda she is amazing. I do miss my yellow checkerboard and snow leopard I got from her.
Will Miranda give discounts for buying a half-dozen discus or more at once?
Did you decide to remove the wooden canopy you originally had when you set it up?
I take it off for maintenance. Sometimes leave it off for a bit, but usually it's on
what are you feeding your discus?
Xtreme flakes (krill/beef heart), vibra pellets, frozen brine shrimp/beefheart on occasion
I thought jack wattle was the King,he sent you sick fish,good to know.
It may have been a one-off occurrence, and I’ve heard many that I’ve had good experiences
@@CichlidBros I've kept discus for 20 years,you know when they are hopeless,sunken eyes,skinny Etc,HANS DISCUS is where you go.
I noticed one of the rummy nose is different do you know what fish that is?
Actually not sure what that one is. But tried to blend in with the others lol
I’ve looking online and to me it looks like a green line lizard tetra (Iguanodectes spilurus)
One of those tetras is not like the others
Yep, there’s one that’s trying to blend in lol
May be a Iguanodectes spilurus
Nice tank. But you clearly need more plants get a bunch of stem plants and floating tanks. Will keep the quality of water great and then you won't need to do many water changes. Also get clean up crew fish. It will be a low maintenance tank
Yep more plants are coming
Not necessarily. In the opinion of another UA-cam channel the more stuff you have for them the hide behind the less you will see the. He has a centerpiece that consists of driftwood and plants and his discus are gorgeous. As a matter of fact he has more than one tank with them.
@@makiarn777 yes but I would sacrifice that with not having to do water changes 2 times a week. That's madness.with plants he could limit water changes to 1 time a month or even once every 3 months!
Theres no need to quarantine from Jack Whitely. He already quarantined before they are shipped to him. Watch his videos.
Clearly they did need quarantine as they were sick fish
Awesome tank! I have always admired discus tanks.
What type of water are you using?
Tap or R/O?
If tap what are your water parameters?
If R/O what do you reconstitute it to?
Using tap. Ph 8.0. Just keeping parameters consistent and they’ll be fine
Have you had any issues with your discus peppering or darkening with your black background?
very nice