I have these both. I got the A7IV thinking I would use it for video and my A7RIII for photography. Turns out I can't see a difference between 42 and 33 megapixel until about 400%. So now I'm using the A7IV for both and will be selling my A7RIII. It's still an excellent camera. So glad you posted this comparison.
Thanks, really helpful. I love my A7R3 especially its cropping ability for bird photography. I do miss the latest autofocus though so am considering the A74. Might just wait and see what the A7R5 brings first though.
Thank you very much for the detailed comparsion. I love it as it you are not play for time. No fancy shots about you and some joes just the clear content which I was looking for ages. :) Again, thanks a lot. I subscribed to your channel. I was looking for this exactly from a youtuber.
The R series has the better mechanical shutter rated for many more actuations and can shoot faster burst rates in uncompressed raw. This was understated in the video.
Great video, one thing about the build quality though: A7R3 is fully magnesium but A74 is only partially magnesium with a plastic rear section. Overall the R line is built to a higher standard. I have heard about improved weather sealing on A74 but it has not been tested by anyone yet.
I was contemplating whether to upgrade to A7 IV, but in the end, I gave up since I'm shooting mostly landscape and almost zero videos and the difference in price (selling old and buying new) is pretty significant. But if I didn't have A7R III and had to buy a new camera, it would definitely be an A7 IV, because when buying they are almost the same price.
The rotating screen on the IV is a no go for me so the A7RIIIA is ideal with the improved screen over the A7RIII and USB-C port. Also with the battery grip the handling becomes superb.
A7iv is a nearly perfect camera for everyone. Better ergonomics, resolution, video and menu than earlier models. It's a jack of all trades. Lack of 4K 60p full frame is the only thing that could be a deal breaker for video people.
That's a tricky choice. I got my 7R III (A) for 1500€ new which is significantly less than the A7 IV, so for me it was not necessary to think about it for long. At normal cost, however, they are much closer. One of the benefits of the 7R III in video mode is that - compared to the regular A7 III - it shoots 4k30 uncropped, even though it's pixel binned. The image quality in video mode, however, is for sure better on 7 III and 7 IV due to their full sensor readout. Nevertheless, the visible difference without zooming in is not night and day; you can really enjoy the 7R III's 4K output. On the other end, 7 IV is definitely a more rounded video camera, especially in terms of stabilization and codecs for postproduction. Talking about photos, I have to say I am by no means a MP enthusiast in an ideological way, however I was always slightly unhappy with 24 MP shot in nature (so: lots of fine detail). There are occasions where 42 MP are beneficial, but I wouldn't consider them to be always necessary. 33 MP sits right in between, so maybe this is now really sufficient for allround shooting withouts regrets. You made a lot of fair points here, as always. ;)
@@TheHybridShooter Thank u for reply. This helps me a lot as i want to purchase sony A7 iv for my Zeiss Batis 85mm f1.8 lens for event photoshoots. Since without low pass filter photos will be lot more sharper and detailed.
I put your link in my memos today. UA-cam kinda pushed you into the shadows, even though I subscribe and bell. Yesterday a Tair 11A arrived here (San Francisco)from Ukraine. Lots of fun, crazy mint condition and a virtual tank, with it's 20 aperature blades. Of course, all I'm doing is taking pics of the blades!
I went A7IV because I wanted better autofocus, better weather sealing and the better video capabilities for when I do decide to use video. Oh and I wanted lossless compressed RAW.
When did lossless compessed raw get added? Every time I looked into it Sony basically said they couldn't do it as the R4 has the older processing hardware. You needed to go to the A1, S3 or A7IV for the newest hardware to get this functionality.
Funny that you made this video because I sold my A7 RIII because I bought a A7IV. The flip out screen and better video features, etc are better on the A7 IV, Also it’s 33 not 32 megapixel
i currently have an a 6400 but really want to upgrade. Atm i cant decide what to get tho. The a7 iv for me would be around 2000€ the a7R iii i could get for 1300 and the a6700 around the same. Please someone with experience advise me.
What’s a perfect minimalist travel camera set up. (Full Frame Hybrid shooting) I’m thinking of going with Sony A74 with 24-70. With that a Osmo pocket. What do you think. Also of course I will have my phone.
I would say that A7R III is great deal for its price. I had to choose between those two and Im happy with my chosen R III. Because for beginners its not easy to buy camera and lenses for like 3 months salary.
Money no object, I'd get the a7iv no question, but I could grab a mint condition A7riii for more than 1000€ cheaper, so it was an easy decision. Very happy with my purchase, but I'm not rejecting the option of getting the a7iv when the price drops.
@@TheHybridShooter no no I'm talking second hand A7riii. Actually, I could sell my A7iii and upgrade to the A7riii for little money. And for the moment, the A7IV is not available second hand. New, they are sold at a similar price indeed, making the a7iv a no brainer imo.
Hi ! I have the RIII for 1 year and a half now and I have the A7 IV for about 4 months. In overall feeling the A7 IV is a big upgrade, with the bigger and raised buttons, deeper grip and better joystick. Also the af is much better and eye af is much more dependable. The only thing I can say negative about the AF is that sometimes(maybe 5% of pictures) it front focuses a little using eye af on my Tamron 28-75 G2 and with my Tamron 70-180 is front focuses A LOT and verry often ! I can't really depend on it for important jobs ! I don't know if it's because of the lens or the firmware of the camera. I really wish Tamron comes out with new G2 versions for the 17-28 and 70-180 ! For the 28-75 the G2 was a BIG upgrade for me! For video is no contest, of course. Also the 9mp difference is more noticebly than you say it is, I can clearly see it zooming in that the RIII is still a little sharper than the A7 IV(btw, the A7 IV HAS AA filter, who reduces IQ ! ). Also at high iso the A7 IV is about 1 stop better than the old RIII, I can even use files at iso 12800 using dxo prime, in photolab 5. That's my personal oppinion with the two cameras. Keep it up with the review, I love your channel ! :)
Thank you for sharing your opinion, but a lot of your information is incorrect. Sony released FW update which fixes Eye AF issues on A7 IV, make sure that you have the latest FW installed. I have actually said that if you zoom-in a lot, resolution difference will be more noticeable, the difference on 4K screens is pretty negligible. No, A7 IV does NOT have AA filter, I have checked that with Sony. High ISO on A7 IV is definitely not 1 stop better after downsampling, as you can see in the video. High-ISO performance is basically identical. Thank you, will do my best to keep it up!
I have to disagree about the menu system. Have the A7 III, IV and Canon EOS R. A7 IV has clearly better menus than III. But that is a matter of perspective, as using a camera makes you learn it, and then menus are not such a big issue. Also the IV still retains some of the unnecessary convoluted menu design of the III. What I find a big issue is that the menus and pictograms on the IV are so small that I have difficulty using them by touch. So I don't use touch on them. On the other hand the EOS R has a wonderful menu system. Very very easy to learn, very very easy to use by touch, etc.
I'm not sure what do you disagree with, I have said that the A7 IV menu system is much better, I would say that it is objectively better. That is indeed a matter of preference, I greatly appreciate that Sony put more options on the screen even at the cost of smaller items, it makes the navigation much faster and it is easier to navigate in comparison to Canon or Panasonic which use much less structuralized menu systems. I generally much prefer new Sony system over Canon menu system.
@@TheHybridShooter Your Still Saying the Same Thing in but in Words..The Word "Decrease" in English Means =Less Sharp",, So Then The Word ""Increase"" Means More Sharp, And i Always hear many Others Say That Not Having an "AA Filter Makes Images More SHARP? Correct? or is There Something i'm Missing? (( Also Big fan of Your Vary informative Reviews ))
@@chevypowertogo-9070 No, I am not. Yes, you are still missing the world "WOULD" - also very important in English language. I am saying that if the A7 IV had low pass filter, it WOULD have lower sharpness.
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Images at 4:13 are switched, Pixel shift image is on the left.
I have these both. I got the A7IV thinking I would use it for video and my A7RIII for photography. Turns out I can't see a difference between 42 and 33 megapixel until about 400%. So now I'm using the A7IV for both and will be selling my A7RIII. It's still an excellent camera. So glad you posted this comparison.
I think the pixel resolution comes to fruition in printing larger images at full res. Not necessarily pixel peeping them
hello which has great AF ?the same?
@@fluxcapacitor8416 both have great af. But the A7iv is quicker and more accurate
Im thinking to buy iv really best cam but the price bro really pain 😮
Thanks, really helpful. I love my A7R3 especially its cropping ability for bird photography. I do miss the latest autofocus though so am considering the A74. Might just wait and see what the A7R5 brings first though.
Thank you very much for the detailed comparsion. I love it as it you are not play for time. No fancy shots about you and some joes just the clear content which I was looking for ages. :) Again, thanks a lot. I subscribed to your channel. I was looking for this exactly from a youtuber.
The R series has the better mechanical shutter rated for many more actuations and can shoot faster burst rates in uncompressed raw. This was understated in the video.
4:18 i notice u have 16-35mm f4 pz, not yet review ? 👍
The review will be available soon.
Great video, one thing about the build quality though: A7R3 is fully magnesium but A74 is only partially magnesium with a plastic rear section. Overall the R line is built to a higher standard. I have heard about improved weather sealing on A74 but it has not been tested by anyone yet.
I was contemplating whether to upgrade to A7 IV, but in the end, I gave up since I'm shooting mostly landscape and almost zero videos and the difference in price (selling old and buying new) is pretty significant. But if I didn't have A7R III and had to buy a new camera, it would definitely be an A7 IV, because when buying they are almost the same price.
Absolutely correct, when you have you seen Sony A7 R Mark three, have best quality image🎉
The rotating screen on the IV is a no go for me so the A7RIIIA is ideal with the improved screen over the A7RIII and USB-C port. Also with the battery grip the handling becomes superb.
On the contrary, the lack of a screen that flips out on the A7R3 is a deal breaker for me.
@@ergocardinal9585For me it is the opposite I hate rotating screens. And I'm not the only one.
Let's hope the 7R V solution becomes common, then everybody gets his preferred screen. =)
This is a superb comparison. Concise and very detailed with meaningful information.
Thank you!
A7iv is a nearly perfect camera for everyone. Better ergonomics, resolution, video and menu than earlier models. It's a jack of all trades. Lack of 4K 60p full frame is the only thing that could be a deal breaker for video people.
The video i was waiting for. Can you share the iso stills comparison pictures?
Thank you so much for the informative and helpful comparison review! God bless and good luck!
2 autres différences: le A7r III a le NFC, pas le A7 IV... Le A7R III à le focus stacking, pas le A7 IV :) Merci pour ta video très détaillée 👏
That's a tricky choice. I got my 7R III (A) for 1500€ new which is significantly less than the A7 IV, so for me it was not necessary to think about it for long. At normal cost, however, they are much closer.
One of the benefits of the 7R III in video mode is that - compared to the regular A7 III - it shoots 4k30 uncropped, even though it's pixel binned. The image quality in video mode, however, is for sure better on 7 III and 7 IV due to their full sensor readout. Nevertheless, the visible difference without zooming in is not night and day; you can really enjoy the 7R III's 4K output. On the other end, 7 IV is definitely a more rounded video camera, especially in terms of stabilization and codecs for postproduction.
Talking about photos, I have to say I am by no means a MP enthusiast in an ideological way, however I was always slightly unhappy with 24 MP shot in nature (so: lots of fine detail). There are occasions where 42 MP are beneficial, but I wouldn't consider them to be always necessary. 33 MP sits right in between, so maybe this is now really sufficient for allround shooting withouts regrets.
You made a lot of fair points here, as always. ;)
thanks for this video. purchased the a7Riii when it first came out. trying to decide if i should sell it and get an A7iv
Great Video, thanks a lot. Why do have the Eyecup so often off on A7 IV?
Kind regards, Sascha
Thank you! Early A7 IV review unit that I was testing after the release didn't have the eyecup, so you see it without an eyecup in some videos.
@@TheHybridShooter oh, i thought maybe it would be annoying with glasses 🤪
how are these two compare to the nikon z7ii?
AMAZING REVIEW OF BOTH CAMERA MODELS. THANKS FOR THE INFORMATION.
My pleasure, thank you for watching!
Hi, Does Sony A7 iv has no optical low pass filter like A7R iv ?
As far as the available information goes, it does not have low pass fitter.
@@TheHybridShooter Thank u for reply. This helps me a lot as i want to purchase sony A7 iv for my Zeiss Batis 85mm f1.8 lens for event photoshoots. Since without low pass filter photos will be lot more sharper and detailed.
Love this comparison. Thank you very much
I put your link in my memos today. UA-cam kinda pushed you into the shadows, even though I subscribe and bell. Yesterday a Tair 11A arrived here (San Francisco)from Ukraine. Lots of fun, crazy mint condition and a virtual tank, with it's 20 aperature blades. Of course, all I'm doing is taking pics of the blades!
I went A7IV because I wanted better autofocus, better weather sealing and the better video capabilities for when I do decide to use video. Oh and I wanted lossless compressed RAW.
r4 got compressed raw as well
When did lossless compessed raw get added? Every time I looked into it Sony basically said they couldn't do it as the R4 has the older processing hardware. You needed to go to the A1, S3 or A7IV for the newest hardware to get this functionality.
Better water sealing I doubt
Funny that you made this video because I sold my A7 RIII because I bought a A7IV. The flip out screen and better video features, etc are better on the A7 IV, Also it’s 33 not 32 megapixel
i currently have an a 6400 but really want to upgrade. Atm i cant decide what to get tho. The a7 iv for me would be around 2000€ the a7R iii i could get for 1300 and the a6700 around the same. Please someone with experience advise me.
if you want to do video production go for the a6700 as it has 4k120, if you do more of photos, go either for the a7iii/iv or a7riii
I already have a7riii and I think I don't need to switch to a7iv even a7iv is better then a7riii. A7riii already covered what I need.
What’s a perfect minimalist travel camera set up. (Full Frame Hybrid shooting) I’m thinking of going with Sony A74 with 24-70. With that a Osmo pocket. What do you think. Also of course I will have my phone.
I don't think that there is a perfect setup, A7 IV with the new PZ 16-35mm F4 and 24-70 GM II is very good setup for travelling.
@@TheHybridShooter Thanks 🙏🏽
I would recommend Tamron 28-200 as a sharp all in one option
@@ricknotd1cc I wouldn't.
@@TheHybridShooter why not? I think it’s quite underrated. Biggest weakness is the variable aperture. Good budget alternative
Excellent comparison
Thank you!
Went to Matera?
Yes, I was there last year.
I would say that A7R III is great deal for its price. I had to choose between those two and Im happy with my chosen R III. Because for beginners its not easy to buy camera and lenses for like 3 months salary.
These cameras are not competing with each other, so in this case, it should be easy to choose, based on specific use.
Llnn
I'm particularly fond of Sony's cameras for starters What to buy Sony 4 or Sony R 3 Thanks Epic
Well, that is what this video is about... there is no clear answer.
I actually like the R3 colors better. Strange
Me too
Me too
Money no object, I'd get the a7iv no question, but I could grab a mint condition A7riii for more than 1000€ cheaper, so it was an easy decision. Very happy with my purchase, but I'm not rejecting the option of getting the a7iv when the price drops.
That must be some country specific special deal on A7R III, A7 IV and A7R III are within 100$ / € in most countries.
@@TheHybridShooter no no I'm talking second hand A7riii. Actually, I could sell my A7iii and upgrade to the A7riii for little money. And for the moment, the A7IV is not available second hand. New, they are sold at a similar price indeed, making the a7iv a no brainer imo.
Ah, ok, understood, I don't know much about second-hand market, so I don't incorporate that option in my reviews.
0:12 A74 use 24-70 GM ii, 0:16 A7R3 use 24-70 sigma? 😒
Yes, but it doesn’t make any difference in those situations.
Hi ! I have the RIII for 1 year and a half now and I have the A7 IV for about 4 months. In overall feeling the A7 IV is a big upgrade, with the bigger and raised buttons, deeper grip and better joystick. Also the af is much better and eye af is much more dependable. The only thing I can say negative about the AF is that sometimes(maybe 5% of pictures) it front focuses a little using eye af on my Tamron 28-75 G2 and with my Tamron 70-180 is front focuses A LOT and verry often ! I can't really depend on it for important jobs ! I don't know if it's because of the lens or the firmware of the camera. I really wish Tamron comes out with new G2 versions for the 17-28 and 70-180 ! For the 28-75 the G2 was a BIG upgrade for me! For video is no contest, of course. Also the 9mp difference is more noticebly than you say it is, I can clearly see it zooming in that the RIII is still a little sharper than the A7 IV(btw, the A7 IV HAS AA filter, who reduces IQ ! ). Also at high iso the A7 IV is about 1 stop better than the old RIII, I can even use files at iso 12800 using dxo prime, in photolab 5. That's my personal oppinion with the two cameras. Keep it up with the review, I love your channel ! :)
Thank you for sharing your opinion, but a lot of your information is incorrect. Sony released FW update which fixes Eye AF issues on A7 IV, make sure that you have the latest FW installed. I have actually said that if you zoom-in a lot, resolution difference will be more noticeable, the difference on 4K screens is pretty negligible. No, A7 IV does NOT have AA filter, I have checked that with Sony. High ISO on A7 IV is definitely not 1 stop better after downsampling, as you can see in the video. High-ISO performance is basically identical. Thank you, will do my best to keep it up!
Dude, most of your personal opinion is factually wrong, as THS pointed out :D
Sony a7iv shutter count - 3L only but a7riii 5L shutter count
I have no idea what do you mean by that.
we want comparison between sony A7R4 VS A7IV
It is already available.
@@TheHybridShooter
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Considering I can find a7riii for 1100 and iv is 2000 at least, that what make me think
Riii has one of the best sensors ever.,.
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I have to disagree about the menu system. Have the A7 III, IV and Canon EOS R. A7 IV has clearly better menus than III. But that is a matter of perspective, as using a camera makes you learn it, and then menus are not such a big issue. Also the IV still retains some of the unnecessary convoluted menu design of the III.
What I find a big issue is that the menus and pictograms on the IV are so small that I have difficulty using them by touch. So I don't use touch on them.
On the other hand the EOS R has a wonderful menu system. Very very easy to learn, very very easy to use by touch, etc.
I'm not sure what do you disagree with, I have said that the A7 IV menu system is much better, I would say that it is objectively better.
That is indeed a matter of preference, I greatly appreciate that Sony put more options on the screen even at the cost of smaller items, it makes the navigation much faster and it is easier to navigate in comparison to Canon or Panasonic which use much less structuralized menu systems. I generally much prefer new Sony system over Canon menu system.
@@TheHybridShooter Well, at 9:55 you said it is the best menu system on the market at the moment. And I disagreed with that.
Ahh, ok, understood. I still stand behind that though :)
R series mainly made for photos
And?
If u compare video u should compare with S3
If u compare video u should compare with S3
@@theweddingfilms7 SIII has nothing to do with this comparison, I am comparing all aspects of A7 IV and A7R III including video...
7 IV and A7R4A wich one is better for wedding photography
what is your main camera for 90% of your videos and why ?
I don't shoot 90% of my videos with one camera.
??You Say Not having =AA Filter will Decrease Sharpness??..its The Other Way AROUND
Both Not Having AA Filter WILL Increase Their Sharpness,
You need to listen more carefully: "Just like the A7R III, A7 IV also doesn't have a low pass filter which WOULD decrease the sharpness".
@@TheHybridShooter Your Still Saying the Same Thing in but in Words..The Word "Decrease" in English Means =Less Sharp",, So Then The Word ""Increase"" Means More Sharp,
And i Always hear many Others Say That Not Having an "AA Filter Makes Images More SHARP? Correct?
or is There Something i'm Missing?
(( Also Big fan of Your Vary informative Reviews ))
@@chevypowertogo-9070 No, I am not. Yes, you are still missing the world "WOULD" - also very important in English language. I am saying that if the A7 IV had low pass filter, it WOULD have lower sharpness.
The iv does have AA filter.... That's why the Riii is noticeably sharper not having the AA filter only being 10mp more
@@nicedward7544 No, it doesn't.