This version of Ashford is much more interesting than what they originally did in the books. In the books, Ashford actually can't handle the pressure of leadership and also goes insane, becoming an antagonist. Here, Ashford actually is coming from a logical and honorable perspective.
That's one of the things I love about this show, no one fits into one catagory (good/Evil). Even Errin Wright, as much as we would all oppose what he did we can at least understand his perspective and what made him do what he did. Same with Jules Pierre Mao, he thought he was doing something to protect humanity he just went to extreme lengths that most would not.
26:35 Protomolecule was sent to our solar system billions of years ago to build the ring gate. It got pulled into Saturn's orbit and became its moon until Protogen Corp discovered it there and unleashed it on Eros, finally giving it the means to complete its task (a.k.a. The Work). It's trying to report back to its creators, but it's getting no replies because the builders were destroyed. When Holden activated the recording in the "library" of the station in the middle of ring space it showed him how the builders tried (but ultimately failed) to stop whatever was attacking them by destroying the solar systems it was connected to and closing the gate.
@12:53 spot on Mikey! Anna's behavior is too foreign for Amos to understand, but he recognizes that she is a good person. Can't wait for the finale! --Because I know you've already watched it...."I'm gonna need a ride"
when this episode first aired I said something on twitter about being impressed with Cara Gee's ability to act like she couldn't feel her legs. she replied to say that that painful expression at 7:35 is 100% real because that box had sharp pieces on it that slashed up her leg when she took it down
So the show never really explains the “order” of how things happened in the distant past, and I’m not far enough in the books to know if they clarify, but I think the “weapon” feature of the protomolecule/the station was not the original function. This might make more sense after next episode, but I think they figured out how to use it as a weapon or alter it to do so, in response to a threat. It was building roads… well, you can weaponize a bulldozer too.
The later books get more into the ring space and explanation but you mostly have it right. The station serves a lot of purposes and can do a lot. But its not a weapon, it's not aggressive, its defensive.
Humans weaponized the protomolecule - creating the Caliban hybrids was entirely a result of human manipulation of the protomolecule. Left to its own programming, the protomolecule built the Ring, giving people access to the "hub". It makes complete sense that it would have defensive measures built it, and based on Holden's vision, it probably includes countermeasures intended to combat whatever it was that was killing off the Progenitors.
@@732ReviewCrew They don't mention it in the series specifically but in the book they did talk about it, a lot of belter ships have evolved into polyamorous families. This makes a lot of sense when you think about the fact that a lot of journeys that they take on the ships are measured in months so a stable crew that doesn't have turnover could easily evolve into something else over time.
@@obelisk21 I got that vibe from drummer already in this show. Both Dawes and Fred acted oddly familiar with her (at least I thought it odd at the time). Recall her conversation with Naomi about how Dawes and her rescued Fred? When Naomi commented that it must have been some conversation that turned Fred's disastrous path away from ruin, Drummer replied with "It was more than talk." with a force that made me think something heavy was involved. Like maybe a relationship of sorts? I'm still not sure, but I like the conspiracy theory...
In the books, Naomi was never on the Behemoth and was on the Roci when it went through the Ring. For the series, though they needed an engineer aboard Behemoth, and the character that was there, in the book, was subsumed in Drummer back in Season Two looking at the damage Roci took at Thoth Station, so the writers/showrunners went with expedience rather than create another new character.
This episode and the last really made me respect ashford. And I love how drummer is like "I don't have time for a medical procedure, this exoskeleton will do for now", never underestimate that woman.
Good discussion & questions. Again kudos to Joe for not revealing too much given all the theories flying around. Drummer & Ashford are awesome here but I think Anna has my favorite moments in this episode. Looking forward to your reaction to the banger of a conclusion and to see whether Mike feels any closure.
The discussion was quite mind blowing. I won't say if you are right or wrong obviously... Ashford. I think this is one of those moments when he bacame a great character. Old, grizzled veteran commander who knows where to lead by example. Originally I saw a flaw in the story because to me Mars and UN officers seemed too easily agree with him - a Belter and a criminal they should despise. But, but... there is a lot of sense give he is a well known pirate and there has to be some respect shared between members of a space navy community given the conditions they are working where so many things can kill you. It is like with XVIIIth century naval officers - your enemy is your enemy, but the sea itself can kill you all in a moment. Anna and Amos. Clearly another person who is influencing Amos this season. We can be certain she is seen by Amos as someone needing his protection. I think there is a lasting impression left by Prax whose soul and personality was saved by him not a long time ago, but Anna is perhaps the most gentle and forgiving person he has ever (?) met, who cares for other people so much. The Aliens. At this moment we have no idea if they want anything from the Earth except something they are using to build their space roads. Given how early the protomolecule payload was sent in the direction of the Solar System life on Earth could be less advanced than even oxygen breathing creatures. Buuuuut it encountered intelligent life and built the Ring from people of Eros, which might be unplanned, unwanted or... just utterly meanigless to the race which is using the protomolecule. As Holden said - they could see us as nothing of consequence, just a minor obstacle for their road project. This way we are close to nothing to the Aliens which really could hurt our self-esteem, but is it not possible? At a certain level of development a galaxy wide civilisation might see even intelligent beings as nothing worth any effort and especially not worth saving... That might be one of the most realistic way the First Contact is treated in a sf show - in a way it ceases to be the First Contact at all because the orther side doesn't care about us. It is way, way closer to Strugatskys' "Roadside Picnic" or something from one of Stanisław Lem's novels rather than some great revelation with Volcans or a Q testing our civilisation. Take care!
It's crazy to think about it like first contact but the aliens are dead. Humanity is in its infant stage still technically, compared to the creators of the PM we are in the stone age
@@732ReviewCrew Yeah, you are right, but I was thinking more from the point of view of humanity. Thanks to Holden's revelation we leanr that it was never about us, we are just an unexpected obstacle so close to nothing to those aliens and their AI tool. That is quite humilating for our species.
I hate to break it to you guys but there are three books after season 6 which have not been filmed. You are not getting all your questions answered although season 6 ends in a logical place.
When Holden went into the nucleus it produced gravity in defiance of physics, however, it did not create an atmosphere for Holden out of nothing, but rather by repurposing matter in the nucleus to create the atmosphere from unused sections. However, when the Martian Lieutenant's grenade destroyed its "manipulator/robot" it had to replace the matter.
If Mike's brain explosions don't become a meme by the time you've finished watching all the seasons, we need a video that collects all of his brain splat moments. Like the re-cat, but TRC version.
Minor corrections from your speculations (spoiler-free): 1) The extra-solar object carrying the proto-molecule, Phoebe, was capture by Saturn, not Jupiter... It would seem 'close enough' since Saturn is the next planet out, but it's twice the distance out from the sun as Jupiter, so not so close after all. (This part is actually true. Phoebe is a real "moon" of Saturn, and it originally comes from outside the solar system, so Phoebe was not formed with Saturn's other natural moons! We suspect that it came from the Kuiper Belt, a nebulous region on the outskirts of the solar system, or the Oort Cloud, a much bigger and more distant sphere of debris that envelops the whole system. Those two regions are where comets come from. The fictional part is the proto-molecule -- As far as we know, it is not real.) 2) The Mormon ship was planning to go to Alpha Centauri... the closest star to us, 4 lightyears away, and NOT to the Andromeda Galaxy, which is over 2.5 MILLION lightyears away (i.e.: Not accessible even with StarTrek-level technology!). Yes, I realize that you actually said, _"Andromeda System"_ , but there is no such thing. ;-]
2) No. The intended destination was Tau Ceti, about 12 light years away. it's a single star, and not a trinary star system such as Rigil Kentaurus (Centauri A)/Toliman (Centauri B)/Proxima Centauri system, and therefore Tau Ceti would have far more stable orbits. Back when Ty Franck and Daniel Abraham were writing the series, it was well known that Tau Ceti had about 10 times the rocks and dust as our own solar system, but despite that it had already been identified as one of the 10 best candidates within about 100 light years for having the possibility of life. That's because it's sun is spectrally quite similar to our own, although it has only 78 percent of the mass and is relatively metal-poor by comparison. Amusingly, "Leviathan Wakes" was published in June of 2011, which meant Ty Franck had been working on the setting for a number of years, by then, and then he and Daniel Abraham started the series in 2009-10. Then, in 2012 -- about 18 months after "Leviathan Wakes" hit the shelves -- astronomers found that Tau Ceti had at least five "super-earth" planets, two of which fell inside that star's "goldilocks" zone, and likely had at least a few gas giants, as well. So, yeah. Ty Franck sure could pick 'em. 😎
Guys, you're overthinking this! When Holden says the protomolecule's task was to build roads, that's just it: connections between solar systems to enable interstellar travel. In The Expanse, there is no faster-than-lightspeed travel, but the Rings and the station provide shortcuts. To build them, the Ringbuilders sent protomolecule to distant star systems on asteroids, which must have taken millions of years to reach their targets. The Solar System was one target, but the road construction vehicle got stuck.
There's some prototypes of similar "exoskeletons" that have been around for years. They're mostly being developed for jobs like factory work so that workers can lift significantly more weight and also not get fatigued as much, but an obvious offshoot is for people with spinal or other mobility issues. Haven't seen much about progress on them for a couple of years, but I'd assume there's still companies working on development. Although, automation and AI might have replaced the utility of using them for workers and things like stem cell treatments may eventually eliminate any utility they'd have in the medical field so maybe they've stopped working on it in favor of other solutions.
There is no halo in the expanse. Holden said the ring space is a graveyard. The builders of the protomolecule where killed by something else. The phoebe station was in orbit around Saturn, not Jupiter.
0:29 As a Christian, this might have gone too far... but yeah, I know what the Ring space is and the protomolecules "intention", so the Theory about hell is not something I subscribe to. 10:05 Yo, this is some really funny stuff!
[Spoilers] continue reading at our own risk! It is a little funny that the guys are talking about the Rings being the hope for salvation for the "precursors" when we later learn that the threat is because of the use of the ring space...
I usually think that books are better than a tv adaptation any day. But The Expanse show is just as good as the books. Ashford and Drummer are way better in the show.
The fact that the authors were in the writing room of the show really helped. I read somewhere that they thought of the show as being their second draft of the story, with some changes mandated by the media change, of course. But any way you slice it, both novels and show are top tier, which is impressive!
Andromeda is an entire differents galaxy 2.5 million light years away from our own galaxy, The Milky Way. . It would be impossible for The Nauvoo to reach Andromeda within the lifetime of the universe with their propulsion technology . The Mormons were aiming for another start system within the Milky Way . Oh, Holden saw the destruction of countless solar systems aeons in the past. That wasn't our sun that Holden saw being destroyed.
If you look at Amos' reactions to Anna, you realize that he has met somebody like her before, and has just not encountered anyone like that, other than Anna, since we've been knowing him.
@@732ReviewCrew Mother Theresa was a great woman who genuinely wanted to help people, *and* she had an ulterior motive that Pastor Anna really doesn't. Mother Theresa saw everything she did as a means to gain converts for the Holy Roman Catholic Church. The spread of Christian gospel and extension of the authority of the Church were always her primary and overriding motivations. Everything Mother Theresa did was a means to that end. As far as I can tell, both in the show and in the books, Pastor Anna's devotion to her faith is an outgrowth of her compulsion to help people in need. Her motivations are far more pure than Mother Theresa's ever were -- which is certainly possible for a fictional character.
The Mormons were planning to send the Nauvoo to the Alpha Centauri system (the star closest to our own). Andromeda is the name of a constellation and a galactic cluster which is a completely different beast.
Also, Alpha Centauri is a trinary star system with a pair of yellow/orange stars (much like our own Sun) orbiting each other closely, and a third much dimmer and smaller red star called Proxima Centauri (Latin for "nearest of Centaurus") orbiting the pair at a much greater distance (0.2 ly). It is this third star, Proxima, that is currently the nearest other star to our solar system at 4.25 light years.
Man 343i era Halo lore is so frustrating. LIke there's a lot of cool ideas but wasn't executed well. And they stepped on a lot of Bungie-era lore to do it.
This version of Ashford is much more interesting than what they originally did in the books. In the books, Ashford actually can't handle the pressure of leadership and also goes insane, becoming an antagonist. Here, Ashford actually is coming from a logical and honorable perspective.
Wow, gonna have to check the books out for that
Show Ashford > Book Ashford.
Show Drummer > *
@@Dmitriy.0 Asterisk is a wildcard for "everything"...so you're right.,
That's one of the things I love about this show, no one fits into one catagory (good/Evil). Even Errin Wright, as much as we would all oppose what he did we can at least understand his perspective and what made him do what he did. Same with Jules Pierre Mao, he thought he was doing something to protect humanity he just went to extreme lengths that most would not.
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AT the beginning, Mikey says :"Holden is saying that the end of times is here, but, more importantly..." Hilarious!!
lol Amos dont do crushes unless crushing someones head maybe 😆 Anna is more like a beacon in the darkness, like a moral compass as Naomi was to him.
“There are three kinds of people in this world: bad ones, ones you follow, and ones you need to protect.”
@@BigSeth1090 Damn, was going to say the exact same thing. But yeah, Amos see's her as someone to protect.
26:35 Protomolecule was sent to our solar system billions of years ago to build the ring gate. It got pulled into Saturn's orbit and became its moon until Protogen Corp discovered it there and unleashed it on Eros, finally giving it the means to complete its task (a.k.a. The Work). It's trying to report back to its creators, but it's getting no replies because the builders were destroyed. When Holden activated the recording in the "library" of the station in the middle of ring space it showed him how the builders tried (but ultimately failed) to stop whatever was attacking them by destroying the solar systems it was connected to and closing the gate.
Closing the gate? that is not something we have confirmation on yet, so the assumption that the rings got destroyed is valid.
@@davidbergfors6820 There was a shot of the gate blinking out right after a sun went blue and exploded.
28:00 remember in 3x6 the child hybrid told Mao that you build it and it works or not. It builds rings that work or not.
@12:53 spot on Mikey! Anna's behavior is too foreign for Amos to understand, but he recognizes that she is a good person.
Can't wait for the finale!
--Because I know you've already watched it...."I'm gonna need a ride"
when this episode first aired I said something on twitter about being impressed with Cara Gee's ability to act like she couldn't feel her legs. she replied to say that that painful expression at 7:35 is 100% real because that box had sharp pieces on it that slashed up her leg when she took it down
Yikes! She managed to channel it well
So the show never really explains the “order” of how things happened in the distant past, and I’m not far enough in the books to know if they clarify, but I think the “weapon” feature of the protomolecule/the station was not the original function. This might make more sense after next episode, but I think they figured out how to use it as a weapon or alter it to do so, in response to a threat. It was building roads… well, you can weaponize a bulldozer too.
The later books get more into the ring space and explanation but you mostly have it right. The station serves a lot of purposes and can do a lot. But its not a weapon, it's not aggressive, its defensive.
Humans weaponized the protomolecule - creating the Caliban hybrids was entirely a result of human manipulation of the protomolecule. Left to its own programming, the protomolecule built the Ring, giving people access to the "hub". It makes complete sense that it would have defensive measures built it, and based on Holden's vision, it probably includes countermeasures intended to combat whatever it was that was killing off the Progenitors.
@@Timmayytoo nailed it!
I know it's pretty subtle and maybe guys are not necessarily picking up on that immediately, but Drummer is not only feeling friendship for Naomi.
The Review Crew's gaydar is on the wrong frequency 😃
Hmmmm interesting
@@732ReviewCrew They don't mention it in the series specifically but in the book they did talk about it, a lot of belter ships have evolved into polyamorous families. This makes a lot of sense when you think about the fact that a lot of journeys that they take on the ships are measured in months so a stable crew that doesn't have turnover could easily evolve into something else over time.
@@obelisk21 I got that vibe from drummer already in this show. Both Dawes and Fred acted oddly familiar with her (at least I thought it odd at the time). Recall her conversation with Naomi about how Dawes and her rescued Fred? When Naomi commented that it must have been some conversation that turned Fred's disastrous path away from ruin, Drummer replied with "It was more than talk." with a force that made me think something heavy was involved. Like maybe a relationship of sorts? I'm still not sure, but I like the conspiracy theory...
In the books, Naomi was never on the Behemoth and was on the Roci when it went through the Ring. For the series, though they needed an engineer aboard Behemoth, and the character that was there, in the book, was subsumed in Drummer back in Season Two looking at the damage Roci took at Thoth Station, so the writers/showrunners went with expedience rather than create another new character.
This episode and the last really made me respect ashford. And I love how drummer is like "I don't have time for a medical procedure, this exoskeleton will do for now", never underestimate that woman.
Good discussion & questions. Again kudos to Joe for not revealing too much given all the theories flying around. Drummer & Ashford are awesome here but I think Anna has my favorite moments in this episode. Looking forward to your reaction to the banger of a conclusion and to see whether Mike feels any closure.
The discussion was quite mind blowing. I won't say if you are right or wrong obviously...
Ashford. I think this is one of those moments when he bacame a great character. Old, grizzled veteran commander who knows where to lead by example. Originally I saw a flaw in the story because to me Mars and UN officers seemed too easily agree with him - a Belter and a criminal they should despise. But, but... there is a lot of sense give he is a well known pirate and there has to be some respect shared between members of a space navy community given the conditions they are working where so many things can kill you. It is like with XVIIIth century naval officers - your enemy is your enemy, but the sea itself can kill you all in a moment.
Anna and Amos. Clearly another person who is influencing Amos this season. We can be certain she is seen by Amos as someone needing his protection. I think there is a lasting impression left by Prax whose soul and personality was saved by him not a long time ago, but Anna is perhaps the most gentle and forgiving person he has ever (?) met, who cares for other people so much.
The Aliens. At this moment we have no idea if they want anything from the Earth except something they are using to build their space roads. Given how early the protomolecule payload was sent in the direction of the Solar System life on Earth could be less advanced than even oxygen breathing creatures.
Buuuuut it encountered intelligent life and built the Ring from people of Eros, which might be unplanned, unwanted or... just utterly meanigless to the race which is using the protomolecule. As Holden said - they could see us as nothing of consequence, just a minor obstacle for their road project. This way we are close to nothing to the Aliens which really could hurt our self-esteem, but is it not possible? At a certain level of development a galaxy wide civilisation might see even intelligent beings as nothing worth any effort and especially not worth saving...
That might be one of the most realistic way the First Contact is treated in a sf show - in a way it ceases to be the First Contact at all because the orther side doesn't care about us. It is way, way closer to Strugatskys' "Roadside Picnic" or something from one of Stanisław Lem's novels rather than some great revelation with Volcans or a Q testing our civilisation.
Take care!
It's crazy to think about it like first contact but the aliens are dead. Humanity is in its infant stage still technically, compared to the creators of the PM we are in the stone age
@@732ReviewCrew Yeah, you are right, but I was thinking more from the point of view of humanity. Thanks to Holden's revelation we leanr that it was never about us, we are just an unexpected obstacle so close to nothing to those aliens and their AI tool.
That is quite humilating for our species.
I hate to break it to you guys but there are three books after season 6 which have not been filmed. You are not getting all your questions answered although season 6 ends in a logical place.
Rip
When Holden went into the nucleus it produced gravity in defiance of physics, however, it did not create an atmosphere for Holden out of nothing, but rather by repurposing matter in the nucleus to create the atmosphere from unused sections. However, when the Martian Lieutenant's grenade destroyed its "manipulator/robot" it had to replace the matter.
Man, I just love Drummer's painfully emotional deep voice. 🤷♂
"What are you in for?" 😁😁
If Mike's brain explosions don't become a meme by the time you've finished watching all the seasons, we need a video that collects all of his brain splat moments. Like the re-cat, but TRC version.
That's a good idea. Im doing the full length screening for patreon now I'll make notes when I can
Up until this point the Ring-station has not seen light as a "destructive element." A communication laser is not a weapon ... yet.
Great reaction the station in the middle is a control node for the road.
Thé road? ..lotsa' roads?
@@dallesamllhals9161 Exactly
Minor corrections from your speculations (spoiler-free):
1) The extra-solar object carrying the proto-molecule, Phoebe, was capture by Saturn, not Jupiter... It would seem 'close enough' since Saturn is the next planet out, but it's twice the distance out from the sun as Jupiter, so not so close after all. (This part is actually true. Phoebe is a real "moon" of Saturn, and it originally comes from outside the solar system, so Phoebe was not formed with Saturn's other natural moons! We suspect that it came from the Kuiper Belt, a nebulous region on the outskirts of the solar system, or the Oort Cloud, a much bigger and more distant sphere of debris that envelops the whole system. Those two regions are where comets come from. The fictional part is the proto-molecule -- As far as we know, it is not real.)
2) The Mormon ship was planning to go to Alpha Centauri... the closest star to us, 4 lightyears away, and NOT to the Andromeda Galaxy, which is over 2.5 MILLION lightyears away (i.e.: Not accessible even with StarTrek-level technology!). Yes, I realize that you actually said, _"Andromeda System"_ , but there is no such thing. ;-]
Adding to Phoebe: its orbit is retrograde.
Oops thanks for the correcting!
2) No. The intended destination was Tau Ceti, about 12 light years away.
it's a single star, and not a trinary star system such as Rigil Kentaurus (Centauri A)/Toliman (Centauri B)/Proxima Centauri system, and therefore Tau Ceti would have far more stable orbits.
Back when Ty Franck and Daniel Abraham were writing the series, it was well known that Tau Ceti had about 10 times the rocks and dust as our own solar system, but despite that it had already been identified as one of the 10 best candidates within about 100 light years for having the possibility of life.
That's because it's sun is spectrally quite similar to our own, although it has only 78 percent of the mass and is relatively metal-poor by comparison.
Amusingly, "Leviathan Wakes" was published in June of 2011, which meant Ty Franck had been working on the setting for a number of years, by then, and then he and Daniel Abraham started the series in 2009-10.
Then, in 2012 -- about 18 months after "Leviathan Wakes" hit the shelves -- astronomers found that Tau Ceti had at least five "super-earth" planets, two of which fell inside that star's "goldilocks" zone, and likely had at least a few gas giants, as well.
So, yeah. Ty Franck sure could pick 'em. 😎
Guys, you're overthinking this! When Holden says the protomolecule's task was to build roads, that's just it: connections between solar systems to enable interstellar travel. In The Expanse, there is no faster-than-lightspeed travel, but the Rings and the station provide shortcuts. To build them, the Ringbuilders sent protomolecule to distant star systems on asteroids, which must have taken millions of years to reach their targets. The Solar System was one target, but the road construction vehicle got stuck.
OHPISSOFF-Book worm +1
@@dallesamllhals9161 You don't make any sense. Who is the bookworm? You?
Maybe someday we can have artificial legs like what Drummer built, so that paralyzed individuals can easily walk around.
Soon we hope, I've seen prosthetics in my line of work (radiology) but none that fancy
There's some prototypes of similar "exoskeletons" that have been around for years. They're mostly being developed for jobs like factory work so that workers can lift significantly more weight and also not get fatigued as much, but an obvious offshoot is for people with spinal or other mobility issues. Haven't seen much about progress on them for a couple of years, but I'd assume there's still companies working on development. Although, automation and AI might have replaced the utility of using them for workers and things like stem cell treatments may eventually eliminate any utility they'd have in the medical field so maybe they've stopped working on it in favor of other solutions.
There is no halo in the expanse. Holden said the ring space is a graveyard. The builders of the protomolecule where killed by something else. The phoebe station was in orbit around Saturn, not Jupiter.
Person on LEFT - for me - Is/was a 'medic', right?
3:36 Came back - BUT not really? ...
Are you asking if Mikey is a medic?
@@732ReviewCrew well, ain't he? OH! More than that? Sry' just eager to know or learn!
0:29 As a Christian, this might have gone too far... but yeah, I know what the Ring space is and the protomolecules "intention", so the Theory about hell is not something I subscribe to.
10:05 Yo, this is some really funny stuff!
Man, I love this season!
GO SCYFY...wait?
15:05 I don’t believe it
[Spoilers] continue reading at our own risk!
It is a little funny that the guys are talking about the Rings being the hope for salvation for the "precursors" when we later learn that the threat is because of the use of the ring space...
I usually think that books are better than a tv adaptation any day. But The Expanse show is just as good as the books. Ashford and Drummer are way better in the show.
The fact that the authors were in the writing room of the show really helped. I read somewhere that they thought of the show as being their second draft of the story, with some changes mandated by the media change, of course.
But any way you slice it, both novels and show are top tier, which is impressive!
Last time I was this early, my girlfriend dumped me!
2:46 man nobody in this show can figure out how to pronounce "seung un"
Which makes it realistic. You get multiple pronunciations of Amos and Souther, among other things. That's just real people.
Which makes it realistic. You get multiple pronunciations of Amos and Souther, among other things. That's just real people.
Andromeda is an entire differents galaxy 2.5 million light years away from our own galaxy, The Milky Way. . It would be impossible for The Nauvoo to reach Andromeda within the lifetime of the universe with their propulsion technology . The Mormons were aiming for another start system within the Milky Way .
Oh, Holden saw the destruction of countless solar systems aeons in the past. That wasn't our sun that Holden saw being destroyed.
If you look at Amos' reactions to Anna, you realize that he has met somebody like her before, and has just not encountered anyone like that, other than Anna, since we've been knowing him.
She feels very mother Theresa
@@732ReviewCrew Mother Theresa was a great woman who genuinely wanted to help people, *and* she had an ulterior motive that Pastor Anna really doesn't.
Mother Theresa saw everything she did as a means to gain converts for the Holy Roman Catholic Church.
The spread of Christian gospel and extension of the authority of the Church were always her primary and overriding motivations.
Everything Mother Theresa did was a means to that end.
As far as I can tell, both in the show and in the books, Pastor Anna's devotion to her faith is an outgrowth of her compulsion to help people in need.
Her motivations are far more pure than Mother Theresa's ever were -- which is certainly possible for a fictional character.
I know you guys are working hard on the edits, but what happened to 2x12 of The Expanse? I don't really wanna break the order of binge watching them.
That will be soon I apologize. It's got to be re edited and will be the next edit I do hopefully tomorrow so I can get it out again.
No need to apologise, friend. Take your time, as long as it's coming.@@732ReviewCrew
guys any plans for patreon ?
Eventually!
You guys should jump on the Indian movies reaction bandwagon. You can start with RRR and Bahubali. This would suit your style and grow the channel.
I've been pushing RRR! IT'S FANTASTIC. One day! Joe and Mike will learn fire and ice...
The Mormons were planning to send the Nauvoo to the Alpha Centauri system (the star closest to our own). Andromeda is the name of a constellation and a galactic cluster which is a completely different beast.
Thank you for the correcting
The Nauvoo was to set out for Tau Ceti system about 100 years travel time. Andromeda galaxy is 2.5 million lys from Earth and The Miky Way galaxy.
Also, Alpha Centauri is a trinary star system with a pair of yellow/orange stars (much like our own Sun) orbiting each other closely, and a third much dimmer and smaller red star called Proxima Centauri (Latin for "nearest of Centaurus") orbiting the pair at a much greater distance (0.2 ly). It is this third star, Proxima, that is currently the nearest other star to our solar system at 4.25 light years.
Man 343i era Halo lore is so frustrating. LIke there's a lot of cool ideas but wasn't executed well. And they stepped on a lot of Bungie-era lore to do it.