Bad Gear - Korg Minilogue
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Welcome to Bad Gear, the show about the world's most hated audio tools. Today we are going to talk about the Korg Minilogue. Is this analog polyphonic synthesizer a dream come true for beginners and professionals alike? Is it as good as the new black and red Minilogue Bass? Does it actually sound good?
Thanks to Klangfarbe for letting me use a Minilogue from their shop floor of James Bond "The Living Daylights" fame:
www.klangfarbe.com/
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Chapters:
00:00 Intro tune
01:18 Overview Korg Minilogue
01:57 Oscillator Section (Shape, Noise, Sync, Ring- & Cross Mod)
02:29 Filter (2- & 4-pole, Resonance)
02:48 Envelopes, LFO
03:13 Delay
03:22 Hi Pass Filter
03:30 Polyphony Modes (Unison, Mono+Sub, Midi Delay, Chords, Arpeggiator)
04:13 Sequencer, Motion Recording
04:28 Firmware Upgrades (Microtuning)
04:34 Sounds/Patches
05:06 Rear Panel
05:13 WTF?!? (Korg Minilogue Bass)
05:35 Thanks!!!
05:41 Hate
06:02 Jam 1 (Bass & Sequencer)
06:58 Jam 2 (Multi Screen)
08:02 Finale (Synth Soundtrack)
08:33 Verdict
Audiopilz: *slaps roof of YT channel*
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this comes a week after Bobeats video titled: Minilogue Bass, new updated look, same great synth xD
You just gotta do that Casio voice synth... i knew it before i even heard what it sounded like, and i couldn't get a single usable sound out of it!
So glad you’re feeling better!
C15 if I remember on the tb3 is that classic faithless Roland sound the insomnia tune (I use plenty of reverb )
False modesty annoys me.
Yes the roof is gone.
It's like the Hulk and Thor tag teamed the bitch.
Oh man. I got a Minilogue in 2016 as a broke college freshman after selling my microKORG and scraping enough cash by basically not eating for an extended period, and we've been through a lot together since, hundreds of performances and countless weird jams with weird people, and the worst years of my life. At one point, someone stole the power supply and I couldn't afford a new official one. But I did have a correctly-spec'd spare that just didn't have the right plug, so I sodered it in. The pitch slider sticks because I spent a summer playing a few times at a beach venue and sand got in the synth off the wind. I think a spider was living in it at one point. I've filled every patch, and they're all named "init Program" or a variation with one or two differed characters since I couldn't be bothered to twist the knob to name each patch - but I know what all of them do based on their number. I never sold the thing despite going through some leaaaaaan times. But now that I have had a good job for a bit and am financially secure enough to start building a collection of gear, it's awesome to see my setup grow around it. 10/10 synth in my books. I hope it outlives me
That's a heartwarming human-synth relationship❤️❤️❤️ KUDOS!!!
kudos to you for getting through those difficult times! i'd like to think as long as i have the music and am capable of creating, i'll be alright
It was my first 'proper'synth after a electronic Casio giant keyboard with reflex speakers and midi built in with sampled synth sounds ,I can get a good psych trance bass line out the minilogue
This is what makes gear good.
Fucking awesome
You can see evolution of AudioPilz's skills as song writer along side with Bad Gear series
Thank you so much!!!
less filler acid
He does very well despite having such bad gear
@@heartache5742that’s a fucking amazing term :D
@@stuartcommon4651 He’s an alchemist turning bad crap gear to gold
….a sour pain knockoff to a must have sweet delicious groove! Florian does it.
There's a lot to be said for synths that do only parts of the frequency spectrum really well - those mids sound dreamy!
Mid-heavy synths can be useful but boy are they sometimes frustrating to use...
I hope you've got a large spoon to scoop it all out
I love the Monologue
@@AudioPilz open up that filter a bit and up the resonance a touch and suddenly the bottom falls away. I guess everything's a compromise
I really respect the time you put into your editing! So many quick and clever funny edits. I usually have youtube videos on in the background but yours I need to watch.
Thank you so much!!!
Now all my synths have a bad gear episode. Now I can rest in peace that my snares sounds like s*** with a good excuse. Great episode!
Thank you!!!
Great stuff! I can’t imagine how much work goes into your videos; the editing must take days. Big respect!
Thank you so much!!!
I adore this synth! Every time I sit down with it for long enough, I end up with cool sounds. It ends up as a backbone of of many of my songs, and I also use it as the controller for my setup a lot of the time. It also plays well with my collection of Wolcas ;)
I need to get deeper with it though, but I always forget about the stuff hidden in the menus
Wolcas like it indeed;)
One of those rare Bad Gear episodes where the video makes the case that it isn't a bad piece of gear. It also helps that you really know your way around these tools 🤣
;)
are those episodes rare? Rarely.
DUUUUUUUUUUUDE. The neo noir blues jam with clips of Rock and Rule?!? AMAZING.
Everyone needs to see that movie.
Thanks! Underrated movie!!!
I had to scour the comments just to find another person who loves this movie!
@@AudioPilz agreed! Was very hard to find on Blu Ray years back and paid a pretty penny for it. Super unique art, great for cutting up in Resolume.
I loved the original Minilogue, it was my first hardware analog synth. The delay was actually one of my favorite features, the self-noise of the circuitry was enough to get it to feedback even without an input signal, and you could make very cool noisy textures utilizing that. The filter lacking bass was the only real "flaw" of it in my eyes, it still sounded spectacular. In comparison to the XD version the LFO also had a few more routing options, such as being able to use the Filter EG to modulate the LFO rate and intensity, and the Filter EG had full ADSR compared to the AD envelope on the XD. That being said, XD did revamp and upgrade a lot of other stuff, so I'm not exactly too devastated by that trade-off. Both versions have a special place in my heart.
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Your videos are of such a high quality! I love your sense of humour, your professional opinion and the length of the vídeos. Very entertaining and informative at the same time. Subscribed!
Thank you so much!!!
I love these & have been waiting for this, Groovy!
Nice!!!
I think the pads and the analogue brassy sound are the real strengths! Great episode! 🙂
Thank you, agreed!
It’s finally here! The Minilogue episode is finally here!!! 😊
Edit: damn, you got some nice sounds out of that beast!
It was about time!!!
My mind is blown by your video production, let alone the reviews! Next one please!
Thank you so much!!!
your videos are so informative. your humor is so good. I always look forward to your content.
Thank you so much!!!
I feel this thing is going to become the Juno of the 10s, a great budget polysynth that'll becone severely overpriced due to nostalgia.
Yeah, maybe I should get the limited version;)
That's why I have 67 of them in a cupboard, waiting for that day. Gonna retire at age 79 on these babies
we already have the juno boutique for that
hope so
@@afxtwinreverb that’s a toy
Put me down for one of those future-retro, Aira-esque, radioactive green Korg Memelogues. Lurvly. 😍
I'd LOVE to have one of these!!!
“Kylie Minilogue” the ‘can’t get you out of my synth’ preset is my favorite .
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I have an XD module, but still I love this one, seems a gentle warmer personality after all.
Good job, great sounds/music 🙂
Thank you!!!
It was my first analogue synth and I didn't regret buying it.
Nice vid 👍
Thank you!!!
You always come up with the coolest grooves.
Thank you!!!
@@AudioPilz By now you've invented enough music genre names to make a hipster's head explode. 😃
One of my favorite modern synth lines- I like the filters on all the 'Logues, it sounds very crunchy and unique. Plus they look cool as hell
The resonance is kind of an acquired taste but it's totally usable...
Your videos are always a joy to watch and all the more impressive if you put together the entire production yourself. You keep making em, I'll keep watching 🥳😎
Thank you so much!!!
I get so excited thinking I finally found an affordable synth that I can buy but then sadness sets in as I see bad gear pop up while researching it.
It's nothing personal;)
Buy it anyway. Not all of the cars on Top Gear were the best. Some of them were bottom gear. Getting around to my point, I mean that names don't need to be taken literally.
You don't need the whole rainbow to make orange, just yellow and red. Yes the minilogue has it's limitations and that's good. It puts your creativity to work and make you find alternative solutions (like adding other gear). I love the sounds of it and the effects you can make. For the price it's an excellent analog synth that will be your trusted companion for a long time 🎹
These videos are the best part of my Friday!
Thank you!!! Have a nice weekend!
I come here for the memes, but stay for the relaxing voice and humor. Always the best channel on youtube
Thank you so much!!!
As always impeccable content. I'd love to see "The most hated Jam" using just Bad Gear winners
Thank you! Great suggestion!!!
We've been waiting for this episode for long ! Thank you !
I have seen this synth countless times on stage in the hands of many talented young bands...
For instance, you can hear it right from the start in the intro of the beautiful darkwave song DRGS by Minuit Machine.
Thank you for the patience!!! I gotta check it out!!!
Been waiting for this one 😭😭😭 god damn I love my minilogue , great vid as always
Thank you!!!
I like that you and I work in such different genres that you don't sell me on buying every piece of gear you put on this show. Only most of them.
😀😀😀Thanks!!!😀😀😀
Ich liebe einfach dieses "at the fist glance...", das holt mich jedesmal ab 😂. Diese geniale Mischung in deiner Stimme zwischen aufgeregter Gelangweilheit und diesem "jey was kommt als nächstes". Einmalig! Zwing mich nicht davon nen Supercut zu machen.
Vielen herzlichen Dank!!!
Hyper Hyper
Wow! Love this one! Nice work!
Thank you!!!
Great tunes as always!
Thank you!!!
Wouldnt be a proper Friday without ya on my lunch break. Thanks Florian!
Thank you so much! Cheers!
@@AudioPilz yw 😩👉👈
Love the minilogue. Its not perfect but back when I was crazy about synths it was the most inspiring one that I had access to
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Can't believe I missed this yesterday. Hope you're having a fun weekend Florian!
Thank you!!!
Absolutely love that minilogue modular picture (the one with lots of patch cables on the minilogue). It's a decent gear with some sound enhancement.
Oh! And the song you made is awesome.
Thank you!!!
Done some great detroit tracks playing with this one. A lot of bang for the buck imo. Everyone should have one.
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Congratulations on being nominated for the Best Music Tech Personality in 2022! You got my vote! I wish thee good luck. 🍀
Thank you so much!!!
I've got a HydraSynth and an Opsix in my studio rig, and my Monologue has just been collecting dust in the closet. You made this sound so good, I'm gonna have to dig it back out!
Hydra and OpSix are a tough competition, I feel you!
@@Bonn5656 in this dimension, the monologue is real. How do I get back to yours
As usual, great fun video and awesome track! :)
Thank you!!!
I ❤ my Minilogue. Thanks so much for this episode.
Thanks for watching❤️❤️❤️
Very fair assessment of what is no doubt going to be a bit of classic. I agree it is a bit of an acquired taste but I love it. Have had one since it came out in 2016 and I still use it almost every day, and still discover new things I can do with it. Once you intimately know this synth, it is actually surprisingly quick and easy to dial in a vast array of lovely sounds. Perhaps the analogue delay is a bit primitive, but when you start motion controlling that time knob...
Yeah, probably a future classic in the making!
I like how you didn't go through the obvious weaknesses like the limited polyphony and rather focused on its strengths and the actual sound. I have the XD and it will always be my favorite piece of gear.
Thanks!!!
Minilogue was my first synth. Maybe if I would start my synth journey today, I would do it differently, but Minilogue would still be on list (maybe in XD version, but still). This synth is just to comfy and reliable
XD is super interesting!
Love seeing you do these newer pieces always such a treat. I'm detracted from the logue line because I got the monologue and a prophet so I don't need a minilogue or prologue. Verselab video one of these days please the price is down to $500
Monologue totally does the trick! Ah, Verselab - nice!!!
I have a Minilogue XD that you can take out of my cold, dead hands. Great episode as always, Florian! You make every Friday better.
Thank you, have a nice weekend!!!
Damn I've been asking for a og minilogue video for YEARS and this had to happen for you to cover it, damn !
In all honesty it was pure coincidence. I got it last week just before the announcement of the Bass
“Unlike Roland and Yamaha, Korg can make an analogue synth without a babysitter”. Classic 😂😂
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The minilogue (and Korg in general in the 2010s) pioneered the democratization of analog synths and triggered a new golden age for them. It is (at least partially) responsible for the subsequent proliferation of gear available at an accessible price point and has even proven that there is a wide target market for higher-end stuff. Probably the only truly annoying thing about it is its return-to-zero envelope behavior when voices with a slow attack get stolen (you can get run out of 4 pretty quickly).
Voice stealing is indeed an issue here
from what i remember it was arturia who started it all...the minibrute was the first modern take on a reasonable affordable synth that made other manufacturers go that rout
@@brothacaim you're right, the minibrute did come out first.
@@fully_privatized_mass_medium i remember,because i was something of a sinth head
Great video. I always thought about getting one for myself because of its portability. Also a big fan of the Living Daylights
Thanks! Love that Bond movie!!!
You know you really love a synth when its shortcomings no longer even bother you. In the case of the Minilogue there are plenty - narrowest filter sweetspot I ever encountered, resonance thins out the sound more than any other, very short release time of the amp envelope, max delay time is also extremely short. Seemed very underwhelming to me at first but then all these things got me to focus on all the other aspects that this thing has to offer, mainly the super flexible and rich sounding oscillators, voice modes, (motion -) sequencing... absolutely amazing! What a great and truly unique synth! Love it!❤
I was surprised how many useful sounds I could coax out of it - I understand the Minilogue crowd!
finally my first synth is getting the bad gear treatment!
can't wait to have my own tunes blown right out of the water.
Congrats & thanks!!!
The Minilogue has always reminded me of the Prophet 5 - definitely a modern classic.
There are some similarities!
i saw this synth at my music class at school. i fell in love i wish i could just make sounds the whole class time. When i get my money i will definitely buy it
Definitely worth giving that one a shot!
Your channel is just wonderful ❤️
Thank you!!!
My pause button is worn out
I should put affiliate links for keyboards in there
The Minilogue XD was my first "real" synth. (I had an old 80s cheap FM and a Volca Keys before that)
Nice one!
Now if one was to find its way into my Christmas stocking... Another great episode Florian.
Thank you!!!
This has become my favourite synth channel on youtube bc of this show
Thank you so much!!!
Oh snap… I wasn’t expecting to like it when you said something about it’s peculiar sound, but I really dig it! Great stuff as always.
Thank you!!!
Sounds Great!
Lovely demo! 🤟 Makes me want to get a Minilogue again, maybe I'll keep a look out for a good second hand deal! 😀
Thank you!!!
@@AudioPilz You know your channel is 95% promoting the instruments you demo as 'bad gear'? After watching the video, most viewers wants to recreate the awesomeness they just saw you make! 😁
@@Flat8G he uses my gear better than me!
I'm reminded of how good my TB3 is every episode 🌝
You sound like you're feeling a lot better than a couple weeks ago. That's great!
Thank you!!! Definitely!
Finale tune triggered Jarre vibes! Superb as always!
Thank you!!!
Sigh... I knew that this day would eventually come, and yet no amount of meditation and re-watching old MusicRadar videos could prepare me for this... My body is not ready!
These are tough times, I know...❤️❤️❤️
I love the OG minilogue. What you see is what you get. I just wish it had an analog chorus instead of the analog delay. The synth sounds really nice when the VCO's are slightly detuned with a slow LFO to the pitch. I think some people don't like it because of the presets, but as with most analog synths the trick is to make your own patches! Love the channel!
Thank you!!! Yes, a chorus would have been much appreciated!
I agree. The thing is completely night and day when you add chorus.
No kidding, when I got mine my first thought was "wow, who are these presets for?"
(it's a digital delay, uses a PT2399 chip. With careful sequencer automation you can make it almost chorus-y)
I used to do the same LFO trick. Instant BoC vibes. You can add to it by using the delay and recording a slight motion for the time knob. AND you can also disable LFO sync between voices, which is something not every polysynth offers.
My first ever synth, i got it when it dropped and made a lot of music with it before i eventually got a rev2 and sold the minilogue. I got a prologue to fill that gap. Minilogue has a unique sound, cold but musical. And its very playable as an instrument, ive jammed with it in a lot of projects.
The Rev2 seems to be the next logical step
the prologue sounds a lot bigger in the low end, but i still can't bring myself to part with the minilogue. it has a way of sitting in the mix perfectly without a lot of fuss for midrange and high tones. i particularly like it for bells, super high synth arps, and other tinkly sounds.
Great for that!
I love mine, with all its quirks. its a great instrument overall
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bought mine in 2020 at first as a comprimise because it was cheaper than some other analog poly synths and wasnt super into it, but over the years its become one of my favorite synths and used in the majority of my songs :)
I paused the video and only noticed the Paul McCartney joke when I was just about to start watching again.. Hilarious! 😂😂😂😂😂😂
Love this channel!
Thank you!!!
That’s actually better than I was expecting *adds minilogue to wishlist*
Yeah, totally usable!
You're killing it with those jams! Proud owner of the XD here, you can't beat the value that you get out of the synth, it's awesometacular!
Thank you!!!
The XD is the monster under my bed. It comes out when I can't sleep.
would commit a literal crime for a 10 hour mix of the final money shot jam. So good!
Thank you!!! There's actually a full track on my Patreon (shameless plug;)
Since I know "Bad Gear", my life seems to have dramatically improved
Really love those Austrian Audio Pilz, it's highly addictive
Thank you so much!!!
This a great sounding synth! The analogue engine is legit. The XD is a pretty good value.
I'd love to give the XD a try!
@@AudioPilz skip the XD which is universally liked and do the Prologue, which has much more controversy around it - massive tuning issues at the start, some features from XD missing in the flagship and limited architecture ( 2 pole filter and 1 lfo only) but boy can it sound amazing. I have the 8 voice version and absolutely love its sounds, so I have to cope with its issues on a daily basis
The worst aspect of the original minilogue is that the transients click on so many patches when the attack is set to 0. The XD is far more powerful, largely due to the user effects and oscillators but I also found the sound fuller.
Agreed!!!
Technically one would expect a click if the attack is 0, would putting the attack to 1 or so not solve this?
No doubt though, the XD is a fantastic synth. Korg really listened to its users on that one.
Part of the problem with the click is the LFO resetting with every note. Make sure to turn off LFO reset on patches with PWM.
Wow, placing your own hands on the envelope section? What hardship. Plus you may accidentally learn more about synthesis and develop a more tactile relationship with your device. No way dude, that sucks 🤣
I wonder how the people who pioneered electronic music back in the day coped with instruments prone to malfunction constantly/affected by temperature? Instruments which couldn't talk to each other easily? Monophonic sequencers with a max memory of 99 notes? Samplers with less than 2 seconds memory? They worked around these minor inconveniences and created amazing music which will live on for years after they die.
The Minilogue is a pretty powerful machine and the comprehensive MIDI CC specs paired up with an Elektron sequencer is a fierce setup. More options than a lot of modular systems and less cables.
In these days of excellent consumer choice I guess the minilogue doesn't seem that impressive, but compared to what was on offer in the late 90s when I first started out doing music, a 4 x 2osc VCO analogue with a good filter, 2 envelopes, noise, a delay, a really good LFO etc for £500 was the sort of thing I used to dream about. I bought a Juno 6 for £400 in 1996 which was a bargain even for the time. But it had no cv/gate in, never mind MIDI. It was also prone to stop working at random times. I opened it up to try and tune the oscillator with a Phillips screwdriver and underneath the panel was about 15 years worth of pubic hair, tobacco, hash oils, dust and a few dead insects. So when the Minilogue was announced I was excited to finally be able to buy a new poly for less than a grand, and yeah it has its limitations but that's kinda half the whole reason why people used to be able to coax such interesting sounds out of analogue synths- they weren't dependent on presets, they made their own.
@@hb-fc3jj When you write a comment that long, you're spending too long on UA-cam 😁😉 I've been there my entity 🤗
I ❤my minilogue! Thanks for this awesome love-letter to the OG! You are the💣! 🤩
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Well once again you picked one of my gears The Minilogue but you made some great and very rolandish sounds on it ,your jam was astounding sounded so good i must return to tweaking it once again.
Thanks again for an inspiring friday video. Love from TAO von Sweden
Thank you so much!!!
Wow finally a synth that I own showed up on bad gear! The Minilogue was actually my first synth that I bought, so I didn't really have any preconceived notions of what to expect from a synth and I got a lot of fun out of messing around with it. Despite that, I did find the sound to be kind of noisy sounding, but I think that can give it a lo-fi kind of character. I do kind of regret buying it though, because now I feel like I cant buy a Minilogue XD since I already have a Minilogue.
I suggest you do an episode on the Sequential Prophet Rev2. It's a multi-timbral "analogue" synth with DCOs that is based off of the Prophet '08. I think it's a very capable synth and I've heard it do some crazy things, but, just like the Minilogue, it has some weird quirks and the sweet spots are, at times, narrow. Because of that, I've seen a decent amount of complaints about it (DCOs don't sound good, Curtis filter reduces the low end and sounds bad, envelopes are clicky, etc.). I think it'd be a good fit for Bad Gear.
Great suggestion, thanks!
Great episod! Been waiting now for a while to see my first hardware synth being put to your tests. Personaly I still enjoy using my minilogoue but I got my moog for bass so the minilogoue got pushed to more of a fill/lead roles. It takes getting used to but it gets easier to get to what you want to hear the longer you use it and learn its submenues. With a bit of treatment and some fx it can really shine in your mix.
Thanks! Great complement to a Moog!
Which Moog? :)
Glad I've got the XD. The digital oscillator, three effects slots, and stereo really open up a lot of sonic possibilities.
Nice one!
Always love these! Informative and entertaining. If the often successful attempts to make the 'bad' gear sound good jam mid way doesn't sell you, the money shot anime score will! Keep em coming
Thank you so much!!!
Also, now that they're discontinued, you should try the Prologue and Opsix, they've both got their fair share of features and flaws.
Great suggestion, thanks!!!
Yep, I'll never understand why the Opsix doesn't have DX7 envelopes - actually, I can't understand why we still suffer ADSR envelopes on _any_ synth that has digital envelopes.
I knew the Prologue had a bad start, and is hardly spoken about but I thought the Opsix was more successful. Already discontinued? How come?
@@DarkSideofSynth It actually didn't sell very well, namely because it was too expensive compared to its competition (hardware and software), but its build quality was too poor for more premium musicians.
@@SynGirl32 I wonder how many people were like me. I didn't buy it because it wasn't fully DX7 patch compatible (ADSR envelopes 😱). I'd only want it to replace my DX gear otherwise I've got all the FM synths I need. If I was designing it I would have made it fully 6-op and 4-op compatible. Huge mistake by Korg IMO. The Volca FM is handy (with the unofficial firmware to fix their patch compatibility error) but the Opsix missed the mark for me.
Of all the synth youtubers you should be the first to get the - errr- brand new Minologue Bass, so Korg Guys can make a selling point like "See what we did there?"
Thank you, agreed;)
perfect as always, thank you :)
no matter how hard you try, you will never make me not to love all my korgs :D
Thanks! I LOVE Korg❤️❤️❤️
My first polysynth and I will always love it. Pro tip: Of all the synths i've owned, this one benefits the most from a multi-FX pedal like a zoom CDR70 which will take it to another level.
Agreed, the Zoom goes great with the Minilogue!
After watching every one of these videos I'm beginning to think I should buy the Canyon pedal.
Much recommended!!!
It finally happened 😔
It was about time...
I had no idea how feature-starved the original minilogue is over the xd.
I deeply. Desperately. Want. That volca Kombiklavier.
It needs to materialize...
Dude, that was some dreamy synth pop. Smooth.
Thank you!!!
I bought my Minilogue only to play PONG on it ;-)
Damn, I missed that! Thanks for the heads up!
Honestly, the bass demo sounded amazing.
Thank you!
When I saw the Minilogue Bass I thought "Gee, Korg is taking a move from the Moog playbook"...
Lol, true!
Love that you used clips from Rock and Rule!
Legend!!!❤️❤️❤️
I was expecting this for so long!
It was about time!!!
Agreed. Of the 3, Korg is the one I can respect the most, followed by Yamaha 🤭 (tacit message sent)
Yeah, great designers like Tats too!