Thank you so much for not making this HD it cuts off the bottom and the top and its really annoying and sometimes it makes people's heads look flat the bottom looks wrong I don't see why I was so excited about HD
He won’t reveal where Jennifer’s body is because there are other bodies of missing women nearby and his sentence would be upgraded to the death penalty plea bargain agreement is out the door. He didn’t just start killing girls in 2003 he done this before. He is a serial killer and a sexual predator. Hopefully the rest of his victims get justice one day
Serial Killers usually 98% take their first victim between 25 & 26. Dr Mike Stone & Dr Gary Brucato invented criminal Profiling, created the scale in which all killers are placed & created the Columbia University Serial Kller database.
They’re not amazing to me. While what they did was very, very good, it’s also what you’re supposed to do as a father. I wouldn’t have left any trail unexplored myself if I’d had a child that went missing. No way.
So as a former inmate, one rule is to never post pictures of your children or family for others to see. They literally sell photo albums on commissary. You never know what another inmate will do to you. They can see your beautiful family, know that they live in a specific area and know that you are in prison unable to protect them.
Well hopefully you don't go to prison, lol.. same thing with social media though, people love to post their homes , families and vacations. Making their house an easy target, alarm , camera or not. @@renayeblack5906
When the mother said her boyfriend found drugs in Casey's room I saw red flags immediately. And the red flag was confirmed when Casey offered to take a drug test to prove her innocence.
Aye same here. The poor woman's gonna live with the guilt of not believing her daughter for the rest of her life. Some manipulators are so good they can turn loved ones against eachother. Such a sad situation
@mynonmignon so if the child isn't wanted they should be rid of? What precedent is that? How far will people take it? And it's safe for the mother but not for the child who is being cut to pieces. A procedure that involves death of another human shouldn't be pushed. It's early term holocaust. No one wanted the Jews so they were rid of after being dehumanized and people were able to make excuses to okay it.
@@DaisyJane0318it's so disgusting when they dismiss a parents concern just because their child is a young adult. I mean, what young woman just takes off with no clothes, no money, sometimes not even a phone?
@@TinyStar-oz3bo You’d be surprised. There’s thousands of missing people who are reported every day, most of whom we never hear about. Thankfully, most do turn up. If police say that there’s no cause for concern yet, it’s because they see countless cases in which someone was believed to be missing under suspicious circumstances, but was really out with friends. Young adults are spontaneous sometimes, and police have seen it all.
@@dewilew2137 I do agree, but in real cases, by insisting people wait for days or weeks, they destroy their best window to solving the crime and ruin any chance of finding them alive.
While my youngest daughter was a teen, I purposely NEVER dated anyone. Was never going to take a chance of anything happening. Plus I learned from a woman I know who did not believe her daughter against the mom’s new bf. Daughter claimed he raped her and the mom believed him and the mom didn’t believe her daughter. Daughter ran away and got involved in drugs. Mom married guy and found out nearly 2 decades later he did rape the daughter. God gave me my girls and I’m never choosing ANYONE over those gifts.
That last FBI agent is so gross…they were told the man was dangerous and CHOSE to ignore the parents. Incompetence and laziness and gross negligence-no excuse
And EGO!! Don't forget huge ego! Law enforcement mentality is that you don't tell them how to do their job!! They take it personally and purposely ignore the valid information!!
Exactly! Constantly hearing about about police of missing people thinking they know the victim better than their own family and friends. It's infuriating.
I'm old enough to remember the Walter Cronkite era journalists. Mr Dow exudes the integrity (and maturity) of those times. We don't see that integrity much anymore.
yes always sad. and psychopath serial killers like this guy always not telling where the bodies are to powertrip cause that's the only thing they possibly can to cut some kind of deals later when authorities need something else.
These people' re in different life,,,don't blame than also add the blocker add for your sanity. We came to watch the story and you come across as a self absorbed, complain about the simple stuff in life
@@HKim0072death penalty cases are not hard. no body cases are hard. And he was supposed to be in prison when he was out killing people so there's that
39:30 This guy says they do not "have the resources" to monitor their snitches, but in THIS case, someone contacted them about Scott Kimball and they did NOTHING.
If the father hadn’t put the billboard inquiry, “missing person” next to the strip club where she previously worked, the FBI may have swept all of allegations of the parents under the rug. Sad state of affairs.
Why won't they allow people to file missing person's report for their daughters. If the parents care and want to file a report then it should be allowed. The parents know their kids better than law enforcement and if you find them okay, no loss. But when you refuse and days and weeks go by then any chance of saving a woman is Impossible. Now you got dead bodies, not young girls. 16:39 the mom had suspicions but that means she didn't do her job as a mom before marrying this guy.
@@dannyducke Yes, he had a medical emergency while driving. It was why he stopped appearing. His nephew Troy covered the second half of his last case. The Killing Game. Troy is/was also a 48 hours interviewer/host.
Why did it take her so long to tell her ex husband that the killer went off the same weekend her daughter disappeared? She must have known something, why marry him? Very weird. These poor families ❤️
Yea that one hurt. She drove her daughter to her death. If she had believed her she may have lived. Then to withhold information from the father. She's basically an accomplice. Also so dead pan and emotionless. Birds of a feather.
She also "forgot"??? that her uncle went missing too? She says she "didn't want to believe" that her husband was a killer but she was absolutely *SPEEDING* past red flags on the way to the wedding chapel.
Exactly! I just left a comment saying I feel no compassion for that woman. Because no matter how you look at it, she chose that man over her own daughter. She did.
Yeah that was very weird. Also you can see what type of person she is since she thought it was wise to not believe her daughter about the drugs in the house and threaten to call the cops. On her own child!? Causing her to run away in the first place. 😢😢 I bet the dude planted the damn drugs in order to separate her from her mom. So sad.
Half of the country elected such Machiavellian personality for their president, and they may do it again this year, so this woman falling for a con is nothing too special.
Google the killer and you'll find that the mom found the daughter's boyfriend who said he last saw the girl being picked up by Scott the night she missed work. Scott also paid for their motel that night. The mom then married Scott at a drive through wedding chapel in las Vegas
@bdml77 I know she will forever feel horrible about that. I hope that men and women see this and do background checks. The little price you pay could save you from paying later.
Casey’s poor dad! To know his ex wife married his daughter’s killer. I can’t even imagine that hell. And Kimball speaks so nonchalant about what he did. He shouldn’t be allowed to breathe air anymore. Or to smile. Or to have a meal… why is he on earth? Or get a moment of attention. These poor families. So very sorry for your loss❤
Lori failed her daughter kaci. The fact that her boyfriend convinced her it's her daughters drug n believed him over her it's pretty disgusting. N in the backnof her head she knew it was him who killed her daughter n she still married him. She is the worst type of parent
If she only stayed at her aunt's house, she went to school down the road from my house in Arizona. She probably wanted to have a relationship with her Mom since the Dad didn't take her in and had a Rocky relationship with her Mom. She was not a big drug addict like the show tries to say. She's on the Gone but not forgotten online highschool Page. Hopefully the killer pays in prison and the afterlife for taking these young woman's life. @@dianabehr3169
I wonder if the first mom carries sone sort of guilt for not saying something sooner about her new husband leaving for the weekend the same time her daughter disappeared… and how could she have not put 2 and 2 together?! That’s terrible
I am always perplexed that cops say someone has to be gone for 24 hours to file a missing person report. Then out the other side of their mouth they say the first 24 hours is the most important in a missing person case.
What the hell is wrong with the state of Colorado. I think somebody people should sue the state of Colorado for not being able to file a missing person report when it was obvious these people were missing people.
Jennifer's poor Dad is actually breaking my heart. Just lost my own Dad a few weeks ago & Jennifer's dad's reminding me of that protective love of a Dad. I watch alot of true crime & obviously feel empathy for every person suffering because of the heinous acts of another, but something about Jennifer's Dad is hitting right in the centre of my heart. Seems so futile but hoping the poor man & all the folk hurt by the monster in this case, recover enough from their hurt to be able to find pockets of joy in life❤
"We don't have the resources to watch criminal informants..." EXCUSE ME??? You let a CRIMINAL out of prison for the purpose of monitoring an alleged victim of a hit plot and had no intention of overseeing that?????? Insane! I'd sue the sh*t out of them !
He was a *serial killer* hiding in plain sight. He's one of the scariest kinds. The way he can put all the stuff he's done and compartmentalize everything. His sentence of 70yrs? He's not walking out of prison.
Dayumm, the system failed them all. Idk how I feel about mom just automatically not trusting her daughter even when her daughter will claim to take a drug test. That's the most isolating, callous feeling ever, there's a reason she "ran away," and "disappeared." Even then, the fact that the authorities brushed off the disappearances so lightly just feels sooooo callous and lazy, the FBI's excuse at the end just felt like incompetent laziness to me. Sorry, maybe a legitimate actual background check instead of hiring a criminal who's proposing an informant role would have helped?
yeah the idea the FBI had a con artist on their payroll and then listened to a con artist OVER the mother of the victim? He was let out of prison to monitor someone, and then she almost immediately goes missing?? Come on. And the FBI guy at the end boo-hooing about how he can't keep an eye on everyone all the time was so ridiculous. Take some accountability.
He gave me the creeps when I first saw his pict before he’s even revealed as a suspect. He has a hardened and creepy look that just doesn’t sit right with me.
They say people look up and to the left( their left) when they lie. I have found this to be true. They don't always, but eventually they forget and do it. That's why they ask em rapid fire questions
@@candicane1yeah, why would she marry him when she was thinking he might be the killer? That’s crazy! It’s like her daughter disappeared and he told her what she wanted to hear and she marries him without even thinking about it. Like she shut off her brain. Smh
what kind of a mother brings someone around her child who she doesnt even know. then believe this man over her daughter,who end up killing her own child. when will people stop brining people in their homes and around the kids that they know nothing about. dont be so damg thirsty for attention and love than you overlook everything else.
If you don't have the resources to monitor them than don't hire CRIMINALS to follow people. As soon as she went missing the FBI should have immediately started questioning Scott.
i just can’t understand how she would wait 2 years to tell your ex that your new husband left around the same time ur child disappeared. so very bizarre to me. rip to all these sweet girls. i’m so so sorry 😢💔
2 early takeaways from this, 1st, if your child is willing to be tested for drugs after they worked on being clean/sober, it can never hurt to just try. 2nd, ALL police, FBI, etc should take every story seriously until they can prove its not true. That's literally the job.
Do you think this Scott guy could’ve planted those drugs on that girl? Maybe he did something to her and he wanted her to disappear so he wouldn’t be discover as the bad guy
Criminal informant is still a criminal and for the FBI rep to say “we can’t monitor them and don’t have resources” is crazyyyyy… no accountability and clearly they need to fire some folks smh
Impressive to see a Harold Dows 48 Hours episode. I miss his reporting. However, after watching this grievous episode, I hope the days of interviewing killers for television shows are OVER! Those manipulators do NOT need any more attention nor a welcomed desire to hear them discuss their power trips.
I’m wondering how these killers get air time? Aren’t they supposed to be in prison?! Also why would they admit to anything? They’re liars and manipulators..
That's not true. Think about how perverse and evil this world is, and compare that to a child's innocence. It's a parents duty to try and protect their kids from everything until they can fend for themselves.
@@Ais-eb9bk That's life. When the kid gets older the world will stay the same. If you protect them from everything, they will grow up very naive and clueless. Bad people will Line up to take advantage.You can't protect them forever.
The word gets thrown about a lot online but it sounds like pure narcissism & jealousy of her daughter. Some mums are competitive with their daughters. Been there & it's a head f*CK. The mum was a disgrace until she had no choice but to jump ships from her new husband to her daughter's whereabouts ✌️
Dang that dad from Jennifer has some serious skills / human reading skills. The way he went about it with - the billboard - knowing that kimble killed hks daughter - the question who also was never seen again.. how is this man thinking ?? You would never have though that im so impressed.
That is how a parent's love should be, unconditional, took these two dads relentless buttheading with the fbi to finally get them to do anything really.
Single mothers with children really need to stop rushing into another relationship. That mom was so weak, she took his side over her own daughter. Sadly, that's not even unusual, it happens all the time. Her daughter needed her and she was not available.
There's a big, big lesson in this story. You have to be very cautious who you hook up with. Running a background check can be very revealing. Running on pure emotions can be very dangerous.
There is no way I could live with myself if I chose a man over my daughter. She believed an ex-con over her baby girl. Alternatively Jennifer’s dad is amazing, not letting the FBI shame his daughter’s memory.
Casey's mom threatening to turn her daughter in to the cops over some drugs found in the home is so sad, especially complicated by learning that she had run away before.
When your child is acting up… the LAST thing you do, is send her away to go live with a relative. You just gave up on her. WHY would she not go live with her DAD before her AUNT. Make that make sense.
Apparently Schlaff left the FBI in 2013. And joined Colorado police in 2020. 😢. Absolutely insane. To know that you can go back to law enforcement after enabling Kimball.
70 years... Poor father.😔 I hope he finds peace in his heart. He has helped other families to find their daughters. I wish him so much that his daugther will still be found. His Angel's daughter.❤🕊️ Love for all the Families.❤🕊️
The nerve of the victim’s mother to BLAME others but herself! She’s the one who put her daughter in harm’s way when she decided to let that criminal into their lives, into their home! She should be the one to be blamed for the early demise of her daughter!
This is heartwrenching to hear Jennifer's father speak about his love for his daughter. This was unconditional love in spite of her involvement with the wrong, horrible people.
So you ship your daughter off to live with an aunt & then she comes back for a 2nd chance only to be killed by your new boyfriend?! These stories are so sad. I don't think I could live with myself & go on tv with this.
When people might question the FBI's motives for certain, questionable things they do today, just remember this case. And the one of the gymnasts whose coach assaulted them, but despite having prior knowledge of his crimes, the FBI stepped in too late. I do support local law enforcement/police officers. But I am not naive enough to think there aren't a few bad apples, as there are in any peofession. But the FBI seems to have a plethora of bad apples. On a sidenote, I miss Harold Dow. He was one of the best!
Do yourself a favor and stay away from Moab Utah I can't count how many missing person cases and murders that I've learned about in that area I mean it's mind-boggling the number of cases.
Convicts are humans and many turn around. If you judge someone you don't know, you too can be played honey... Victim shaming continues as the convicts smile on...
Never take anyone’s word on face value. If someone claims to be an authority, law enforcement or whatever, ask for their name, rank and office address. Then call that office and ask to speak with that person, and cross check everything you’ve been told. No legit authority figure will ever take offense if you attempt to verify their identity, they’ll actually be happy for you not being a dumba$$.
I find it very hard to believe that professional FBI agents were fooled by a criminal/informant. What does this say about these agents level of intelligence and expertise or was this just plain indolence from the FBI? How could that girl go missing just two months after "Hannibal" was supposed be watching/reporting on. I bet that if the persons missing were family members of any of these agents, even if the missing person was completely reckless, would they just ignore it as they did with these VERY SAD CASES of missing young ladies.
I don't understand why they were not allowed to do missing person reports...people file them on family members every day. I think the police is misunderstanding the difference between the girls being legally old enough to the concern of their missing being out of character. I know it can get abused; my parents would use police and try to file missing person, but they knew there I was...just an opportunity to harass my friends, but if it is someone genuinely missing, they should file
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He won’t reveal where Jennifer’s body is because there are other bodies of missing women nearby and his sentence would be upgraded to the death penalty plea bargain agreement is out the door. He didn’t just start killing girls in 2003 he done this before. He is a serial killer and a sexual predator. Hopefully the rest of his victims get justice one day
I think you are absolutely right about this.
Nicole - I’m struck that you’re the only comment I came across that succinctly laid out the perverted serial killer mindset of Kimball. Nicely done.
🎯 this is 100% correct! Hopefully one day they will be found by hikers, hunters, ect and they can be brought home and laid to rest.
Serial Killers usually 98% take their first victim between 25 & 26. Dr Mike Stone & Dr Gary Brucato invented criminal Profiling, created the scale in which all killers are placed & created the Columbia University Serial Kller database.
Wow, you're so right!
I find the fathers' devotion to their daughters deeply moving.
They would probably be still alive if they lived with their dads after the divorce…
And the inept FBI abhorrent. These dads are awesome!
“One way or another she’s coming home, she’s not lost anymore” deeply hurts 😢
These dads are AMAZING! They took care of business! Relentless and brave!
The Dad that ended the show with his belief made me cry. PRICELESS, PRECIOUS
Two out of three anyway
Yep, they are all great and men of courage and perseverance.
Stronger and braver than jenner
They’re not amazing to me. While what they did was very, very good, it’s also what you’re supposed to do as a father. I wouldn’t have left any trail unexplored myself if I’d had a child that went missing. No way.
So as a former inmate, one rule is to never post pictures of your children or family for others to see. They literally sell photo albums on commissary. You never know what another inmate will do to you. They can see your beautiful family, know that they live in a specific area and know that you are in prison unable to protect them.
Very good advice. TY
Well hopefully you don't go to prison, lol.. same thing with social media though, people love to post their homes , families and vacations. Making their house an easy target, alarm , camera or not. @@renayeblack5906
Not planning to get arrested, but that's really good to know. Scary, too.
Jesus Christ..... Goosebumps
If you were being a mom, Jennifer would still be alive today. You believed him over her. 38:57
When the mother said her boyfriend found drugs in Casey's room I saw red flags immediately. And the red flag was confirmed when Casey offered to take a drug test to prove her innocence.
ditto
@@ruth-q3w what was he doing in her bedroom
Aye same here. The poor woman's gonna live with the guilt of not believing her daughter for the rest of her life. Some manipulators are so good they can turn loved ones against eachother. Such a sad situation
Me too! At that moment I knew who the killer was
Same. Why would any parent turn down their kid's offer to take a drug test?
Bob Markum is a superior dad. "I loved Jennifer no matter what she did."
What a sweet man❤
That's what loving parents are like. And also the reason why every child should be wanted.
#keepabortionsafeandlegal
@@mynonmignon wanted by BOTH parents and mandatory abortion if either wants it, including dad.
@mynonmignon so if the child isn't wanted they should be rid of? What precedent is that? How far will people take it?
And it's safe for the mother but not for the child who is being cut to pieces.
A procedure that involves death of another human shouldn't be pushed. It's early term holocaust. No one wanted the Jews so they were rid of after being dehumanized and people were able to make excuses to okay it.
Plus infertile couples wanting to adopt babies!
Who are these cops that tell a parent that they need blood evidence in order to start a missing persons report!?! Wtf?
I found that hard to believe.
@@surlygirly1926 I've heard that, but I don't know where, but we must consider a state's laws & local policy.
If you were being a mom, Jennifer would still be alive today. You believed him over her. 38:57
@@reggaefan2700 Give it a rest. Every freaking comment has this reply. Unstable behavior.
The killer planted the drugs so no it was not Casey's mother's fault. @@reggaefan2700
He should NEVER be let out of prison
EVER!
Death penalty.
Meet Karma
@@susanleblevec6613 would not have meant anything now.
@@Teolulzwould mean something to the families for sure.
It makes me really angry when law enforcement dismisses parents concerns and tips!
I feel the same way! They need to be responsible if something bad happens to the missing person. Stay alert!
@@DaisyJane0318it's so disgusting when they dismiss a parents concern just because their child is a young adult. I mean, what young woman just takes off with no clothes, no money, sometimes not even a phone?
@@TinyStar-oz3bo You’d be surprised. There’s thousands of missing people who are reported every day, most of whom we never hear about. Thankfully, most do turn up. If police say that there’s no cause for concern yet, it’s because they see countless cases in which someone was believed to be missing under suspicious circumstances, but was really out with friends. Young adults are spontaneous sometimes, and police have seen it all.
@@dewilew2137 I do agree, but in real cases, by insisting people wait for days or weeks, they destroy their best window to solving the crime and ruin any chance of finding them alive.
@@TinyStar-oz3bo I know right! It truly is disgusting!
I know this story well, Kacey mother should have done a drug test. Never trust the new man in your life especially over your child.
The daughter begged her mom… for a drug test (to prove she was innocent) Mom didn’t even care….
kacey was a horrible mother like so many are
While my youngest daughter was a teen, I purposely NEVER dated anyone. Was never going to take a chance of anything happening.
Plus I learned from a woman I know who did not believe her daughter against the mom’s new bf. Daughter claimed he raped her and the mom believed him and the mom didn’t believe her daughter. Daughter ran away and got involved in drugs. Mom married guy and found out nearly 2 decades later he did rape the daughter.
God gave me my girls and I’m never choosing ANYONE over those gifts.
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That last FBI agent is so gross…they were told the man was dangerous and CHOSE to ignore the parents. Incompetence and laziness and gross negligence-no excuse
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And EGO!! Don't forget huge ego! Law enforcement mentality is that you don't tell them how to do their job!! They take it personally and purposely ignore the valid information!!
Exactly! Constantly hearing about about police of missing people thinking they know the victim better than their own family and friends. It's infuriating.
They only care about what an informant can do to advance their career!!!
They shut down a few years back and They moved laid off 1800 flowers over there 😬😳 The Federal Public Crime Tip Line doesn't even answer the phone 😐 🤔
I Love Harold Dow. He does the most Amazing interviewing. He actually cares about these people.
He’s the best!
He passed away in 2010 from complications of asthma, may he rest in peace.
Oh that is so sad🙏he really was an awesome gentleman for sure🙏 heartbreaking
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Her dad : “just to see her. Just to visit” 🥺🥺🥺😭
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A visit could be gold worth. Some get no visits😢
R.I.P. Harold Dow-he was one of my favorite 48 Hours reporters.
I'm old enough to remember the Walter Cronkite era journalists. Mr Dow exudes the integrity (and maturity) of those times. We don't see that integrity much anymore.
Yes, he was awesome
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Yes Mr. Dow was awesome.
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I HATE that they need to cut a deal with a serial killer to find the victims.🙏❤️🙏❤️🙏❤️🙏
yes always sad. and psychopath serial killers like this guy always not telling where the bodies are to powertrip cause that's the only thing they possibly can to cut some kind of deals later when authorities need something else.
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Dunno, he didn't get less of a sentence. Dude was in jail for life already. Death penalty cases are extremely hard.
These people' re in different life,,,don't blame than also add the blocker add for your sanity. We came to watch the story and you come across as a self absorbed, complain about the simple stuff in life
@@HKim0072death penalty cases are not hard. no body cases are hard. And he was supposed to be in prison when he was out killing people so there's that
Those dads are so full of love, it's so sad they couldn't protect their children from that monster 😢
39:30 This guy says they do not "have the resources" to monitor their snitches, but in THIS case, someone contacted them about Scott Kimball and they did NOTHING.
they don't have the resources to do ANYTHING
If the father hadn’t put the billboard inquiry, “missing person” next to the strip club where she previously worked, the FBI may have swept all of allegations of the parents under the rug. Sad state of affairs.
Why won't they allow people to file missing person's report for their daughters. If the parents care and want to file a report then it should be allowed. The parents know their kids better than law enforcement and if you find them okay, no loss. But when you refuse and days and weeks go by then any chance of saving a woman is Impossible.
Now you got dead bodies, not young girls.
16:39 the mom had suspicions but that means she didn't do her job as a mom before marrying this guy.
This guy is very glib. He's got Bundy vibes.
I miss Harold Dow. He was a great 48 hrs news corespondent. ❤ 1947-2010
Oh he passed away already? 😮😢
@@dannyducke Yes, he had a medical emergency while driving. It was why he stopped appearing. His nephew Troy covered the second half of his last case. The Killing Game. Troy is/was also a 48 hours interviewer/host.
@@paganseashellies That is so sad. Thank you for the info. I just read about what happened. 😔
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Asthma attack while driving ....
Why did it take her so long to tell her ex husband that the killer went off the same weekend her daughter disappeared? She must have known something, why marry him? Very weird.
These poor families ❤️
Maybe she couldn’t admit it to herself that she was suspicious
Yea that one hurt. She drove her daughter to her death. If she had believed her she may have lived. Then to withhold information from the father. She's basically an accomplice. Also so dead pan and emotionless. Birds of a feather.
She also "forgot"??? that her uncle went missing too? She says she "didn't want to believe" that her husband was a killer but she was absolutely *SPEEDING* past red flags on the way to the wedding chapel.
A poor excuse for a mother. Smh
@353Chaos353 she didn't wanted to believe her husband was a killer but believe he over her own daughter about the drugs. She failed her daughter.
I miss Harold Dow. He was the most compassionate and informative investigative reporter this show has ever had.
she married him because he was looking for her daughter? that makes no sense. You must have missed something in the story
Exactly! I just left a comment saying I feel no compassion for that woman. Because no matter how you look at it, she chose that man over her own daughter. She did.
Either that or she is weird or just making excuses about marrying him.
Yeah that was very weird. Also you can see what type of person she is since she thought it was wise to not believe her daughter about the drugs in the house and threaten to call the cops. On her own child!? Causing her to run away in the first place. 😢😢
I bet the dude planted the damn drugs in order to separate her from her mom. So sad.
Half of the country elected such Machiavellian personality for their president, and they may do it again this year, so this woman falling for a con is nothing too special.
Google the killer and you'll find that the mom found the daughter's boyfriend who said he last saw the girl being picked up by Scott the night she missed work. Scott also paid for their motel that night. The mom then married Scott at a drive through wedding chapel in las Vegas
He won’t reveal who they are because he ain’t no snitch, but he’s an FBI informant so isn’t that a snitch?
And snitching is actually a good thing. We should be helping the police solve crimes, not helping criminals get away with them.
@@Ariadne76-k3dnot to another inmate, it isn’t. He’s probably going through hell in prison right now. “Snitches get stitches”
saving information so he can make another deal at some point
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He's full of himself and doo doo
So Lori MARRIED Scott just so he'd help find her daughter? What a bizarre thing to do.
Laurie infuriates me.
She chose that man over her own daughter. No matter how you want to look at it that’s exactly what she did.
@@Justice-ef9skYup!
Plus she doesn't seem to have known much about him.
She also didn't tell anybody for a while that he went on that "solo camping trip" the same night her daughter disappeared. Terrible.
Lori married Scott BEFORE her daughter vanished
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Taking a man’s side over your own daughter after she begged to be drug tested to prove her innocence 🤦♀️
I agree. But she’s suffering the rest of her life because of those choices… so karma evened it all out… still horrible for everyone involved.
I am sure he planted those drugs in kaycees room. But yes, the mother should have agreed to the drug tests.
Be careful who you marry. Pay for a background check especially if you have children. Some men and women put on the charm to have access to your kids.
She could have shelled out $30 for an online background check and her daughter would be alive
@bdml77 I know she will forever feel horrible about that. I hope that men and women see this and do background checks. The little price you pay could save you from paying later.
Wasn’t him being in jail before they got together enough?
@USlisa50 apparently not. He probably lied about why he was in there and she didn't check and just believed him. Look how he had FBI fooled.
@USlisa50 you'd think, but unfortunately women choose men over their children's safety all the time. My mother was like that
Casey’s poor dad! To know his ex wife married his daughter’s killer. I can’t even imagine that hell. And Kimball speaks so nonchalant about what he did. He shouldn’t be allowed to breathe air anymore. Or to smile. Or to have a meal… why is he on earth? Or get a moment of attention.
These poor families. So very sorry for your loss❤
Lori failed her daughter kaci. The fact that her boyfriend convinced her it's her daughters drug n believed him over her it's pretty disgusting. N in the backnof her head she knew it was him who killed her daughter n she still married him. She is the worst type of parent
Plus she wanted to report her daughter for the drugs Scott planted on Casey, and she shipped her off to her aunt's home, what a cold, mean mother
If she only stayed at her aunt's house, she went to school down the road from my house in Arizona.
She probably wanted to have a relationship with her Mom since the Dad didn't take her in and had a Rocky relationship with her Mom.
She was not a big drug addict like the show tries to say.
She's on the Gone but not forgotten online highschool Page.
Hopefully the killer pays in prison and the afterlife for taking these young woman's life.
@@dianabehr3169
When you have trouble with your kid, the answer is to try harder not to ship them off to other people.
I wonder if the first mom carries sone sort of guilt for not saying something sooner about her new husband leaving for the weekend the same time her daughter disappeared… and how could she have not put 2 and 2 together?! That’s terrible
Upsetting to see how l o n g it took for the FBI to get onboard!
Massively let those girls down 😢
but how quickly they got onboard with Scott!
I am always perplexed that cops say someone has to be gone for 24 hours to file a missing person report. Then out the other side of their mouth they say the first 24 hours is the most important in a missing person case.
What a creep. These informants should be told immunity is relinquished when charges exceed a certain point. It’s ridiculous they are treated so well.
What the hell is wrong with the state of Colorado.
I think somebody people should sue the state of Colorado for not being able to file a missing person report when it was obvious these people were missing people.
Blue state. Liberal policies do not work.
Colorado revised its statute in 2018.
I live in Colorado. I am asking those same questions. 😳
Liberals. Thats whats wrong with Colorado and all of the US tbh.
America law is trash
This guy talking about the murders with smile is pissing me off😠
Scott's?
Scott Kimbal is a real psycho
I have to say, I was actually laughing at him, bc he thought he was a good liar
He won't smile about it forever.
@@daisiesorchidshollyhe will smile for far too long
I always enjoyed Harold Dow. An exceptional man still deeply respected.
Same here 😢
Jennifer's poor Dad is actually breaking my heart. Just lost my own Dad a few weeks ago & Jennifer's dad's reminding me of that protective love of a Dad. I watch alot of true crime & obviously feel empathy for every person suffering because of the heinous acts of another, but something about Jennifer's Dad is hitting right in the centre of my heart. Seems so futile but hoping the poor man & all the folk hurt by the monster in this case, recover enough from their hurt to be able to find pockets of joy in life❤
"We don't have the resources to watch criminal informants..." EXCUSE ME??? You let a CRIMINAL out of prison for the purpose of monitoring an alleged victim of a hit plot and had no intention of overseeing that?????? Insane! I'd sue the sh*t out of them !
He was a *serial killer* hiding in plain sight.
He's one of the scariest kinds.
The way he can put all the stuff he's done and compartmentalize everything.
His sentence of 70yrs? He's not walking out of prison.
Dayumm, the system failed them all. Idk how I feel about mom just automatically not trusting her daughter even when her daughter will claim to take a drug test. That's the most isolating, callous feeling ever, there's a reason she "ran away," and "disappeared." Even then, the fact that the authorities brushed off the disappearances so lightly just feels sooooo callous and lazy, the FBI's excuse at the end just felt like incompetent laziness to me. Sorry, maybe a legitimate actual background check instead of hiring a criminal who's proposing an informant role would have helped?
yeah the idea the FBI had a con artist on their payroll and then listened to a con artist OVER the mother of the victim? He was let out of prison to monitor someone, and then she almost immediately goes missing?? Come on. And the FBI guy at the end boo-hooing about how he can't keep an eye on everyone all the time was so ridiculous. Take some accountability.
A pathological liar! He lied to Howard, you could see it in those psychopath's eyes. Monster! RIP dear women 💔💔💔💔😭💔😭😭😭😭😭😭
Plus, his precious uncle...over $.... pathetic.
Scott glances away and smiles through his eyes when he lies. Watch it for yourself.
Yep they call it dupers delight. And the good old narcissistic smirk.
He gave me the creeps when I first saw his pict before he’s even revealed as a suspect. He has a hardened and creepy look that just doesn’t sit right with me.
They say people look up and to the left( their left) when they lie. I have found this to be true. They don't always, but eventually they forget and do it. That's why they ask em rapid fire questions
One of the mothers got married with the Serial Killer Scott or Hannibal
How awful and painful so very sad
Awful
Master manipulator
And she trusted him over her own child
And married him after she was suspicious of him. Another “mother” too blind to see a monster and unprotective of her child.
@@candicane1yeah, why would she marry him when she was thinking he might be the killer? That’s crazy! It’s like her daughter disappeared and he told her what she wanted to hear and she marries him without even thinking about it. Like she shut off her brain. Smh
what kind of a mother brings someone around her child who she doesnt even know. then believe this man over her daughter,who end up killing her own child. when will people stop brining people in their homes and around the kids that they know nothing about. dont be so damg thirsty for attention and love than you overlook everything else.
Absolutely. It's so sad. The kids usually don't stand a chance
Um, my mom?
I say that every time I watch similar stories
Even women who know their husband is molesting their daughter will often still stay with him and throw the daughter away.
She will live with it for the rest of her life. Heartbreaking.
If you don't have the resources to monitor them than don't hire CRIMINALS to follow people. As soon as she went missing the FBI should have immediately started questioning Scott.
What the hell is wrong with law enforcement in this country!!!!
They have many issues that need fixing ASAP!!!
@@DaisyJane0318 as a former LEO I'm disgusted.
all about money and who you are
@@ruth-q3w only a small part of the bigger problem.
i just can’t understand how she would wait 2 years to tell your ex that your new husband left around the same time ur child disappeared. so very bizarre to me. rip to all these sweet girls. i’m so so sorry 😢💔
2 early takeaways from this, 1st, if your child is willing to be tested for drugs after they worked on being clean/sober, it can never hurt to just try. 2nd, ALL police, FBI, etc should take every story seriously until they can prove its not true. That's literally the job.
Do you think this Scott guy could’ve planted those drugs on that girl? Maybe he did something to her and he wanted her to disappear so he wouldn’t be discover as the bad guy
That was my first thought !
He did, it says in the vidro
Definitely! I was thinking the same thing
Definitely! I was thinking the same thing
Criminal informant is still a criminal and for the FBI rep to say “we can’t monitor them and don’t have resources” is crazyyyyy… no accountability and clearly they need to fire some folks smh
He, Scott, is so pleased with himself.
The FBI really dropped the ball on this one, trusting anything Scott Kimball told them is just plain stupidity.
You never send your kids away because of drugs. Love them, take them to NA or AA or rehab.
SMH. That’s why mothers be careful who you bring into your children life. 😢😢😢
Also, I do not understand how they can make a deal with the devil.
Impressive to see a Harold Dows 48 Hours episode. I miss his reporting. However, after watching this grievous episode, I hope the days of interviewing killers for television shows are OVER! Those manipulators do NOT need any more attention nor a welcomed desire to hear them discuss their power trips.
I’m wondering how these killers get air time? Aren’t they supposed to be in prison?! Also why would they admit to anything? They’re liars and manipulators..
Growing up "in bubble wrap", being "protected from everything" just sounds very controlling.. and then she herself goes to marry a murderer..
True.
@@suni.L It's no wonder she rebelled..
That's not true. Think about how perverse and evil this world is, and compare that to a child's innocence. It's a parents duty to try and protect their kids from everything until they can fend for themselves.
@@Ais-eb9bk That's life. When the kid gets older the world will stay the same. If you protect them from everything, they will grow up very naive and clueless. Bad people will Line up to take advantage.You can't protect them forever.
The word gets thrown about a lot online but it sounds like pure narcissism & jealousy of her daughter. Some mums are competitive with their daughters. Been there & it's a head f*CK. The mum was a disgrace until she had no choice but to jump ships from her new husband to her daughter's whereabouts ✌️
My heart goes out to the victims and their loved ones ❤ I can't imagine ♥️
RIP all the victims and Harold Dow 🙏🏾
Dang that dad from Jennifer has some serious skills / human reading skills. The way he went about it with
- the billboard
- knowing that kimble killed hks daughter
- the question who also was never seen again.. how is this man thinking ??
You would never have though that im so impressed.
That is how a parent's love should be, unconditional, took these two dads relentless buttheading with the fbi to finally get them to do anything really.
Single mothers with children really need to stop rushing into another relationship. That mom was so weak, she took his side over her own daughter. Sadly, that's not even unusual, it happens all the time. Her daughter needed her and she was not available.
There's a big, big lesson in this story. You have to be very cautious who you hook up with. Running a background check can be very revealing. Running on pure emotions can be very dangerous.
There is no way I could live with myself if I chose a man over my daughter. She believed an ex-con over her baby girl. Alternatively Jennifer’s dad is amazing, not letting the FBI shame his daughter’s memory.
The FBI was however responsible for properly vetting him. They failed and were negligent therefore responsible.
Casey's mom threatening to turn her daughter in to the cops over some drugs found in the home is so sad, especially complicated by learning that she had run away before.
Get her help,our rehab smh..
Especially since he planted the drugz
@@legitbeans9078 yup
Yeah that's not how to help someone in trouble. Not if you love them😢
When your child is acting up… the LAST thing you do, is send her away to go live with a relative. You just gave up on her. WHY would she not go live with her DAD before her AUNT. Make that make sense.
I'm hoping that FBI agent who got Kimball involved as an informant and ignored these parents fears isn't retired and drawing taxpayers money.
Apparently Schlaff left the FBI in 2013. And joined Colorado police in 2020. 😢. Absolutely insane. To know that you can go back to law enforcement after enabling Kimball.
Don't think that I didn't notice that the FBI didn't take it seriously until a man was reported missing.
Yes. This.😢
70 years...
Poor father.😔 I hope he finds peace in his heart. He has helped other families to find their daughters. I wish him so much that his daugther will still be found. His Angel's daughter.❤🕊️
Love for all the Families.❤🕊️
The nerve of the victim’s mother to BLAME others but herself! She’s the one who put her daughter in harm’s way when she decided to let that criminal into their lives, into their home! She should be the one to be blamed for the early demise of her daughter!
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This is heartwrenching to hear Jennifer's father speak about his love for his daughter. This was unconditional love in spite of her involvement with the wrong, horrible people.
39:19...sure, but the families went to them on numerous occasions and they were met with resistance 😢
So you ship your daughter off to live with an aunt & then she comes back for a 2nd chance only to be killed by your new boyfriend?! These stories are so sad. I don't think I could live with myself & go on tv with this.
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When people might question the FBI's motives for certain, questionable things they do today, just remember this case. And the one of the gymnasts whose coach assaulted them, but despite having prior knowledge of his crimes, the FBI stepped in too late. I do support local law enforcement/police officers. But I am not naive enough to think there aren't a few bad apples, as there are in any peofession. But the FBI seems to have a plethora of bad apples.
On a sidenote, I miss Harold Dow. He was one of the best!
They can only do so much. They're not super human.
Do yourself a favor and stay away from Moab Utah I can't count how many missing person cases and murders that I've learned about in that area I mean it's mind-boggling the number of cases.
The dads are so caring and remember their daughters with so much love ...it s heartbreaking....but still beautyful!
A very young Jonathan Gruesing, the FBI agent who interviewed Leticia Stauch and testified at her trial. 😀
Exceptional investigator. 😊
Thank you! I was trying to place him
Imagine marrying a convict and exposing your children to them. Nice job mom
They do it all of the time. Sick
@@HerMajesty1 it’s almost like people shouldn’t be having kids if they aren’t willing to do the bare minimum and protect them
I would never forgive myself!
Convicts are humans and many turn around. If you judge someone you don't know, you too can be played honey...
Victim shaming continues as the convicts smile on...
@@DaisyJane0318it's not about you...
Never take anyone’s word on face value. If someone claims to be an authority, law enforcement or whatever, ask for their name, rank and office address. Then call that office and ask to speak with that person, and cross check everything you’ve been told.
No legit authority figure will ever take offense if you attempt to verify their identity, they’ll actually be happy for you not being a dumba$$.
I find it very hard to believe that professional FBI agents were fooled by a criminal/informant. What does this say about these agents level of intelligence and expertise or was this just plain indolence from the FBI? How could that girl go missing just two months after "Hannibal" was supposed be watching/reporting on. I bet that if the persons missing were family members of any of these agents, even if the missing person was completely reckless, would they just ignore it as they did with these VERY SAD CASES of missing young ladies.
It’s heartbreaking to see the parents going through all this suffering.
Each of the girl's fathers are truly phenomenal.
The initial police and FBI response utterly beggars belief.
Excellent though tragic video. ❤
He should be doing life without parole..
Lori (Kaysi’s mom) is a poor excuse for a mother. Smh
As I continued to watch the video I thought she might have been jealous of her beautiful daughter.
Ahhh, it's so nice to see Harold again. What a phenomenal reporter. He is truly missed!!
Wow. The mom married a creep she knew nothing about and lost her daughter because of that. I can't imagine the guilt, she loved her daughter
I hope Lori is still riddled with guilt to this day. Mothers like her sicken me, she failed Kaysi
I don't understand why they were not allowed to do missing person reports...people file them on family members every day. I think the police is misunderstanding the difference between the girls being legally old enough to the concern of their missing being out of character. I know it can get abused; my parents would use police and try to file missing person, but they knew there I was...just an opportunity to harass my friends, but if it is someone genuinely missing, they should file
"He draws you into him, He makes you believe great things will happen to you and...you end up dead."
Whatta great host! You can see how he cares about all people he speaks to.
I feel so bad for keysi. She was let down by the people who should have been there for her but we're only worried about themselves 😔
Wow the mother chose her husband and not her daughter smh
Exactly…. A man was more important! 🤷♀️
@@elainevankat5353 and he was the one who planned it all. I’m so shocked
Tabitha is such a real friend and many people wouldn’t do that for their friends she really cares for Casey
What a helpless feeling when your child goes astray. You try your best and that falls short. You love them and that is never enough.
Its infuriating that the cops won't take a missing persons report seriously just because they are over 18. Thats just damn crazy
I’m sorry, but this is a story about incompetent individuals, starting with the mother. RIP all the victims.
Imagine having only one child, who gets involved with drugs and then disappears!
Gotta raise kids the right way , doesn't matter how many