How to Tile a Shower Ep.121
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- Опубліковано 5 вер 2024
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We do a lot of bathroom tile work as part of our remodeling business. Emphasizing the shower pan leak test up front is very first "must do" for any DIYER wanting to take this project on. And using hard plastic spacers on wall tile is very good practice and for large tiles it is a must. Beautiful workmanship.
I’ve always been mesmerized by how artistic tile guys are. The precisión and attention to detail is unmatched. Unlike finish carpentry(which I do) you can’t hide a mistake with woodfiller and paint. I have tremendous amount of respect for good tile setters and they definitely deserve every dollar they make.
My father. He’s been doing it 40 years and his work is crazy good. Never taught me a thing though! I do plumbing and carpentry
@@Nk-bc1qb No problem! One thing I’ve notice with great tile guys is that if their waterproofing is solid, I know they’re gonna be good. Usually when they pay so much attention to something that isn’t even gonna be seen(I.e mortar, red guard, hardie back etc) it means they’ll be even more attentive when setting. Hats off to you a from one tradesman to another. I’ve been doing carpentry for 10years at 28 yrs old and I can honestly say I still feel like an apprentice haha everyday is a new thing to learn.
@Theone82 and then they pay the price due to poor workmanship. Story of my life haha
A real tile setter NEVER leaves his work dirty...The old saying is "Get it while it's wet...My helpers loved me because my work was ALWAYS ready to grout the next day..
Agreed. My jobs are pristine when I'm done setting and I think you're money ahead keeping it clean as you go. It's easy to ruin tiles whenever anything metal is poking around. The edges of porcelain are extremely brittle and you can pop off the tile face if you move a tool the wrong way cleaning joints. And whatever you do, keep hammers far, far, far away from tile work! Nothing good will come from accidentally dropping a hammer on your perfect tile job!!
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Little tip from a tile setter.
Keep away from epoxy grout unless you are doing a swimming pool or hot tub. It really isn’t necessary for this application.
Use Mapei Ultracolor grout. No sealer required and no efflorescence like the basic grouts since there is no Portland cement used.
Fantastic video though. I love all your content sir.
Yeah, this EC guy doesn't do as much research as he probably should. There's definitely a third choice between plain powder grout and epoxy, ie acrylic grout. Mapei makes a good one but there are others.
TEC Power Grout is another excellent option. It’s the only grout we use, and far easier to work with than epoxy grout.
I can't believe I started watching this series 4 or 5 years ago. It will probably be a great relief for EC, and me, when the whole thing is over.
Thank you very much for doing it. Not much longer now!
Oh the house is long finished, he's just dragging these videos out
Dragging is an interesting way of saying it. Keeping the great content at ready for some time is certainly one part of the puzzle, but I think even if they would want to avoid such impressions it would be extremely hard to put out the videos as stuff is happening on the house. There is so much going on that Nate would have to be editing non stop to even vaguely keep up with the progress. I like that they take the time and present a quality video when it is ready rather than pump it out quickly so they would be following the real situation out there.
What quality quality content this is. From the filmography, to the work itself, to the commentary to the transitioning.
This feels so much like when you start to get close to the end of a long book you've loved and don't want to end.
Tile guys are a special breed. It takes experience, patience, and determination to do a first class job.
Use a soft, small brush to remove the thinset that oozes out while it's still wet to save a lot of headache detailing
I miss this series
Marvellous to see a good tiler at work. I remember a few years ago when we had a tiler in for a bathroom renovation. He was great, he told the building contractor off (he was a subcontractor) and made them come back with better structural reinforcement and straightened the edges. A good tiler is worth more than just the tiling job.
This Master bath tile job was striking during the Open House last week.
Thank you for sharing.
There are certain jobs I'll gladly do myself and then there are the jobs I'll gladly pay someone else to do. Tiling definitely falls into the latter category!
It’s fully evil to do badly, to do it well is impossible
Excellent insight on tile and grout
The good old level is a must-have instrument, but here in Europe we use green laser - gives you speed and excellent layout.
I know how much time takes to do a good tile installation, and here in this video it is shown, so I don't know how the tv programs of house renovations can do this in such little time, I just don't trust the quality of those works, they show only a good looking, but quality performance in time (5 or 15 years or more), that cannot be tested in TV programs. Here I see the amount of work taken to set, cut and install the tiles and grouting. Looks a very well, detailed done installation. Thanks for your videos.
I am a Master Carpenter. Of course I say this only because I have been doing it for almost 30 years. But I am sure that there’s still more I don’t know, or more that I humbly want to learn. Layout is always important in my opinion. I have done all phases of residential and Commercial work. I am good at what I do. Because I enjoy what I do. And the feeling of knowing that I did a good job. I enjoy these videos, and the extra knowledge I gain from the videos.
Going by what you have said I to must be a master Carpenter I have 42 years in the bank
@@jlewis1688 I think Grandmaster Sir. 😂
Are you a bad mouth cigarette smoking drunk like 90% of people in construction?
@@FromTheHood2TheWoods how many times you gonna comment that lol
@@Jacob-zv7xw just that once
What a great install
Beautiful work.
Here in Europe it's not recommended to use two-component epoxy grouts in places like showers. Epoxy grout is water tight both ways - it won't let the water in, but it also won't let the water (moisture) out. There's always some moisture underneath the tiles, despite 90+ % bonding. Tile waterproofing keep the moisture from penetrating lower layers, but the moisture needs to get out. Cement based grout has higher vapour permeability, so it allows that moisture to come out.
Also the very corners of adjacent walls/floor should not be grouted. Even though epoxy grout is somewhat flexible and deformable it will crack in the corners with time. The best way is to use a mould resistant acid cure silicone (except for natural stone). If done properly, it won't degrade for 4-6 years. Besides, there are no eternal tile works. There are well maintained bathrooms and showers with periodic inspections and the others :).
Those are the facts! Cement based sealed every 18 months is the best method in my opinion!
In the US we build our bathrooms to be remodeled every 10-15 years. At least that's how old they are before they start really showing signs of wear.
@@9HighFlyer9 4-6 is a lifespan of a silicone. When it degrades, you just remove and redo it.
Interesting! I didn’t know that but it does make sense!
Europe is usually more advanced and smarter in their construction practices than here in North America!
@@utuberdave I think that is not the matter of being smarter or not. We just have more urban areas and many people live in apartments where it's harder to do remodelling too often. In a place like block of flats any failure may have serious consequences, both material and financial. So we try to do all the construction work as reliable and serviceable as possible.
Many of your solutions are simpler, cheaper faster and smarter than ours. But some are unwise beyond any comprehension.
That the craftmanship is primo is a given. I'd like to add that I love your musical selections. Kudos on the hours it takes to produce these fine videos.
Thanks for another very good video. Great information, camera work, editing, and narrative. And thanks for sharing with us that are not as knowledgeable as you and your contractors. From Canyon Lake Texas.
Hi. This and subsequent videos are missing from your playlist FYI. Enjoying the series thank you. :)
Watching professionals doing their work just feels great.
Excellent work. Absolutely brilliant trade example.
Good warning on the epoxy grout. The average DIYER needs to stay far away from it. They should go with a premium premix grout that includes stain protection and mildewcide to prevent molds.
Never had a stain protection work
@@turboflush Epoxy grout I've used hasn't been particularly good at stain protection.
@@dchristo10 interesting. I have never used epoxy grout.
Tried grouts with stain protect. Tried adding... It never works. Tried cleaning and reapplying. Thin. Thick. None matters.
As a DIYer, I've never had the courage to try epoxy grout. I think I'm too slow of a worker to pull it off. I used a premium premixed grout a few months ago and was pleased with the results.
@@Nk-bc1qb yes, I used it once and it's difficult to work and wipe. I ended up breaking it up into little areas. lucky it was a small job. Never will use it again.
I’ve really enjoyed watching this series! Beautiful work throughout !
You can't honestly expect to learn how to tile in 15 minutes. He's pointing out important details, layout, back butter, directional trowl and most importantly waterproofing. Miss those 4 and you have a hack doing the job. It's that simple. Not really a diy job.
love the peach emoji at the end lol
This was great. I've done a good bit of tiling in my own homes, and it's good to see pros doing things much the way I did them, only way faster, of course. On walls, I did way less vertical in a single session, wanting to be absolutely sure the previous section was fully adhered before putting anything above it. The paranoia of an amateur. One thing I didn't see here that I learned years ago is part of the layout. If you have a large hole, as for the shower controls, and you're using hard tiles (like porcelain, vs. ceramic), it's best to plan it so the hole center is between two tiles. I had one that was about the center of the tile. Maybe there's a better solution to this problem, but I ended up using a tile splitter on that tile, then cutting the half-holes along the split, then fitting the two pieces back together carefully. It took a pretty close look to spot the split, but it would have been better to have not needed that at all. I always find tiling to be a bit stressful as I'm planning it and actually doing it, as I'm concerned about screw-ups and the extra work they end up requiring, but once the work is done, it's a great feeling to admire it for years to come.
You're absolutely right, making a clean hole (even if it's round, but especially if it's not round) in the MIDDLE of something as brittle as a tile or a pane of glass is something beyond the capabilities of your average DIYer, and likely still challenging even for the best craftsmen.
So, laying out the tile so that at least one joint passes over that hole is a much superior layout choice, as you mentioned.
I do like your solution (tile splitter and then cut out the half-circle sections out of the edge created by the splitter), but since I don't have as much confidence in the tile splitter, I'd have used a more traditional tile saw on that tile and just made the resulting joint look like it was meant to be there from the beginning. Much easier to reliably seal and grout it that way, instead of having basically no gap to put any kind of filler into and therefore potentially having a spot where a crack and/or leak might develop in the future.
Then again, I've never laid tile in my life, and I'm just fine with keeping it that way, so maybe I'm wrong about this whole thing (instead I'd hire someone who has years of experience).
Drill with circular diamond bit. Keep the tile wet.
@@JosephWheeler14 For holes like the ones for shower controls, that would be a very large diamond bit, and a home gamer would likely only get a single use from it.
i just love it watching a masters in the craft
Thx Florida tile
This content is just so wholesome! Thank you for your wonderful insights and positive approach to these tasks. ♥️
The layout of tile can be the toughest part of the job. It includes shifting the pattern over one way or the other to accommodate windows that are not exactly in the right spot or placement of outlets, bars, and special items. Sure you can go around them, but a lot of forethought goes a long way before the tile guy gets to even see the job. Starting placement of floor or wall tiles can alter the whole thing.
Epoxy grout is a milestone in modern times as Roman concrete was in its day. Beautiful tile system from industry leaders. Tiled a ton in my 20's, and love the new standards, and dependability of new products. Fit in a small interlock install for the garbage /recycling pad near the curb. It's a popular install, easy to get right, and wrong!
J.B.I Custom Tile in Dallas, Texas. People look them up good work. Quite work at a affordable price
They did a beautiful job on that shower!
I demo’d and installed 2’x1’ tiles on the floors of 6 full baths, 2 1/2 baths, our upper laundry closet, our lower laundry room and an outdoor shower by our pool, over the course of 2 yrs of roof-to-foundation renovations on our 20 y/o 6k sq ft North Texas home…. My progress in understanding the approach, materials, tools, sequencing of steps, set and install techniques and related tips and tricks of the trade, are clearly evident over the scope of the various projects. Moreover, the accumulated insight and wisdom has significantly streamlined and reduced the overall project duration times.
I am a tile setter for almost 20 years now and it never gets old to see good work beeing done, like in ths video. The result look great. But I don´t get the spacers; I only use them installing heavy tiles on walls.
Some people like uniform grout lines
That is one bad to the bone saw , I always wanted that one
Thanks guys. Nice job.
Be Blessed !
I love doing tile work. Very satisfying
This tile artist works really well!
👌👌좋아요베리나이스굿입니다요,아주훌륭하고 정성이 가득한게 너무 감동적이면서 여러가지 생각이 머리속을 스쳐지나가는군요,,이렇게 열심히하고 열심히 사는것이 아주 훌륭해 보인다는 감동적인삶이 계속되길 바랍니다요,,,
Good afternoon EC been waiting. Thanks for the update. Fallowing from Jamaica 🇯🇲🇯🇲🇯🇲
I came to the house yesterday, since I misread the website (I left that note), and I'm bummed I couldn't see this shower or much of anything else. It looks great! You've done a lot of great work here, and whomever buys the place is a lucky person. I'll be using this Schluter system when I redo my shower, as I think it's the best too. I used Ditra when I tiled my mom's house and won't ever use cement board!
You may want to watch the Tile Coach here on you YT latest video on schluter mock up water test, Eye opener for sure
Are you still here in town? We'll show it to you! Respond here!
Bryce...found your note...come back anytime and we'll open up the house for you!!
@@EC2 Wow, that's quite an offer, thanks! I'm a bit over an hour away, so I'd need to plan a time. How about sometime next week? The 27th-29th would be doable for me if that works for you.
I can do a weekend if that's necessary, I'll just have to figure out some things.
@@EC2 Hey guys, checking in to see if you got my reply here about coming by the house. If your offer is still available, let me know! Maybe I'll try emailing you too, and you've got my card with my info if that helps. I'm watching the new painting video and boy is that a nice trim paint job! Hopefully I can see it sometime, take care.
Man that's a good looking shower and great tile job. Impressive.
Looong time watcher. Actually tiling my kitchen right now with some large format tile. Wouldn't you know, it's Florida Tile porcelain tile! I've been pretty happy with it.
Not knocking these guys' skill, but my mom tiled her shower ( 1980- no You Tube) and it looked great. It was still in good shape when the house was sold 7 years later.
We appreciate your service too🙏🏽🇺🇸
Good morning from bend oregon
Very well done! Profession installation and professional materials. Happy to see it!
Great tiling, a pleasure to watch. Not sure about subway tiles though. Always remind of, well, subways and public conveniences.
Thanks for sharing your tricks and knowledge with us
I love the way you guys put the ads in the clips without it being annoying. When the company gives you free, high quality tiles they certainly do deserve to be mentioned and promoted. There are other channels where they bombard you with ads constantly, I'm looking at you Linus.
I love that van
Nice work! - Please tell Dave that he needs to get his hands on a sponge-trowel and a wash-boy bucket - makes grouting super easy, consistent and enjoyable 🤙
Kind regards
I wish you had made this video before we redid our shower! Great content! Thank you!
The grout compound looks delicious
The tile choice and the quality labor by these guys makes me jealous for whoever gets to shower in that temple the rest of their lives.
Great video! “Keep up the good work!”
I equate grouting a shower like that to running a marathon. Once you start a grout job, you're running against the clock. A second pair of hands helps a lot. If you are using one of the so-called super grouts (stain resistant & fast setting), your timing has to be perfect. That stuff can get away from you if you apply too much and can't get your wipes done before it flashes off and turns concrete!!
I enjoyed watching the care taken and constant checking as the tile were laid out. I wondered what the extra stuff was being put into the grout until you mentioned epoxy so I assume that was it?
@10:15 I was thinking it before you said it !! 😂
looks good, would look better with granite curb and seat...
Beautiful work!
That was a beautiful bathroom!
This work deserves a five-star rating, but how much does it cost? Thanks
Another interesting and informative video
Ton of grout lines to clean, I will be using a shower pan, and on the walls I will install 12x24 porcelain to make it easier on wifey when she cleans ;), great video, professional no doubt
Beautiful job.
Great looking shower!
Nice work guys.
Niche maybe a 1.5" to left better.
But probly lumber you didnt wantbto move.
In our new home builds . Bull nose is out only some pencil but mostly Schulter strips Solid product on sills shelves and seats.
Nice work and looks like hood design and products.
Thanks
I've never heard of epoxy grout...more learning to do.
Check out Sal Diblasi on UA-cam. Everything you need to know about tiling and grout
Phil should have worn safely glasses when he chamfered the edge on that tile and made his cuts on the tile saw. I've seen pieces break off and ricochet across a room on a couple occasions when a worker was softening an edge and making cuts on the saw.
We just installed Florida Tile in our master bathroom. Love it!
Lovely work. Oh, and at 9.37 if i can, i do this job the same day i tile!
And keep up the good work.
keep up the good work!
Keep up the good work!
Really bummed I wasn't able to make the drive up to see the finished product last weekend; lots of things all came together on the same day.
Nice
Looks good. I probably would have waterproofed that shower before drywall. Imagine if it leaked below!
Excellent video as always EC :)
I like the "marble look" v. real marble. The porosity of real marble makes it a poor choice for houses that people live in. I've found it easier to detail before the thinset dries.
the really obvious repeated patterns are always a dealbreaker with synthetic material for me
@@gramursowanfaborden5820 As a practical matter, I found the manmade ones are just stronger and don't get damaged as easy.
@@gramursowanfaborden5820 I was just about to say that too, you can clearly see the pattern repeating itself many times on those walls
Where did you get the music? Great video by the way, very educational 🤙
Very nice
I’d be interested to see that value of all the materials they’ve been donated to this amazing project.
On EC2 they said it was about 1 thousand dollars worth of materials.
I can't say I like that half inch rip over the shower seat
I always clean out the grout lines before the glue sets.
Rectified tiles often have perfect edges - sharp too.
Looks good
definitely a job for the experts
I feel bad for them, having to put epoxy grout in that shower. it's hard and extremely sticky stuff.
Is there a reason for doing the wall tile first? Ive always heard to tile to floor first and lap the wall tile to prevent water penetration
Correct, setting floor tile first is a better practice because it eliminates long grout joints around the parameter of the pan.
@@chinaskibukowski7747 I am guessing that industry specs are similar to here in the UK - there should be NO grout in internal corners. Silicone caulk should be used. Therefore it is a bit of a moot point whether to tile the floor or walls first. (I usually tile floors first in any case!)
He put the floor tiles under the wall tiles, same idea as tiling the floor first, but it means you don't need to stand all over the tiled floor with ladders and dirty tools while doing the wall first.
Shout out to starr tile. He has tons of very helpful tile shower videos.
Ive done a couple of showers.
It turns out there's skill involved.
Anybody can tell im not a pro for as long as the tile remains.
Thanks Florida Tile for a great product
Why did the tiler not exploit the grey vein that run through the tiles. If I were doing this I would have laid them out firstly.
I feel that the job would have looked better and also complimented the the quality of the tile.
Probably was not part of the scope of the job. That would add at least a day to the job.