Tape and Texture the Drywall Ep.107
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- Опубліковано 14 жов 2024
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Darren did the tape and texture in this order:
Pre fill
Tape 1st coat
Corner bead
Ultrafex tape
Double (2nd coat of mud, all purpose mud, or taping mud)
Flush coat
Touch up
Sanding (220 grit mud only, not paper)
Pre Prime
Texture
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Thank you, be safe, and be grateful.
Any homeowner who has ever tried to tape and mud knows how good these guys are just by watching him. They are artists!
Indeed
Absolutely!!
Glad there are people who love doing this job!!! I’ve done it a few times and can appreciate what these guys do!
It's kinda sick, but it's quite relaxing to watch them doing that hard work in a way that seems so simple and easy....but we all know it isn't simple, easy, or relaxing to do.
They are skilled tradesmen, not artists.
My dad's renovated and sold 6 homes in his time. Was a plumber for 30 years and could do pretty much any trade skill. But he always used to say...."pay for the pro to come in for tape and mud, trust me on this"
So not only does he need to have mastered all the skills, he has the power of a weight lifter, balance of a gymnast, speed of an assembly line machine, precision of a surgeon, eye of an artist, and endurance of a marathon runner. Mad props. 🙌
And gets paid like a ditch digger.
Ideally that's how everyone should approach their work. If there was more professionalism in the world there would be a lot more joy in our work, too.
@@anthonygriffin1147 no chance. The level and speed he is at? He makes money. well earned too.
@@whereismylife maybe compared to McDonald's but as far as the trades go, drywall guys are near the bottom.of the list.
Best comment here☝️
Very few people realize what goes into creating a building. Especially a habitable building, or "home". This series of videos really lays out every phase up close and personal. Very well produced, videographed and of course, narrated.
The elusive OSHA approved bucket shuffle. 👍🏼
I remember the first time I saw a "Bazooka" in '77. What a time saver! At the age of 70 I sold my stilts and decided that I no longer belonged on them. Let the young guys do that part.
You must have been pretty good on them if you made it to 70. 👍🏼
You know he's a pro when he can keep a black shirt that clean during a job.
Nah. A real pro can keep a white shirt clean doing a dirty job.
I think its more of a case of he's working slow/carefully. Probably paid by the hour. Any job where its paid by the footage the guys would be moving way faster which results in more mess.
@@PortersMob Bingo. Bossman used to trim out condos in Florida, moved on to doing almost all the finish work for em instead. He muds like Jackson Pollock and he paints like dinners burning but he's gotta finish. Fantastic results though.
I’ve tried this a few times, until my wife hired a professional, that’s when I realized “ I didn’t know enough to know that I didn’t know anything “ great job
Great comment!
Lol... read a story like that in Fine Homebuilding magazine years ago.
It's the old Rumsfeldian, unknown unknowns.
I love that drywall is easily modified or repaired, UNLESS it's textured.
Right? Broke my heart to see the beautiful finishing work covered with orange peel. It's a miracle that the texturing was even throughout, and not something you can replicate if you have to cover over anything later.
Any texture can be matched, it just requires the right tools and same skill required to do it in the first place.
I loathe textured walls. All I can think about is dust, pollen, and grease (from kitchen on the latter). Washing/cleaning/dusting a smooth wall and ceiling is easy. Damp locations like bathrooms and garage - mold. Uck.
@@olivercotton347 Actually there is one small bonus to a 100% coverage texture like this was. You can use a higher gloss paint without it making minor imperfections stick out like a soar thumb. Higher gloss paint = easier to clean.
For reasons I still don't understand (I'm from the east coast) west coaters not only prefer but expect orange peel texture on their walls.. drove me nuts when I first moved out here.. gotten used to it over the years.
As an old guy that has spent his life behind a desk and steering wheel, my hats off to the trades people. I worked like this as a young man and my Dad taught me to appreciate hard manual labor and skill since he did it most of his life. They earn their pay and often more.
Wow, that’s the most professional and efficient drywall taping and finishing crew I’ve ever seen. Amazing.
LOL....
Watching Darren work, I think I’ve found the secret: Banjo music! I’ve been listening to 5 baby chimps banging on pots & pans...
That is some absolutely top tier drywall work. As a personal preference, I think it's a crying shame you covered up such a great level 4++ surface with texture.
Agree. Texture is a fad at best
Sigh. Orange peel.
Yeah that was a fantastic level 4 drywall job, I would have personally left it smooth/flat. We have done texture in my area for about 30+ years.
There's a lot more mud that needs to be applied to have a smooth wall finish. It wouldn't look good at all with just that many steps.
Craftsmanship was paid to the making of this video, Nate's camerawork and particularly his editing were well done. Nate you let the pictures tell the story your dad as moderator provided just enough to complement the pictures but not detract from them.
First time in the whole series my jaw dropped and said NOoooo! All that amazing work to give smooth beautifully flat walls and then BAM we went back to the 1970’s with the texture.
Should just add, I mean no disrespect, each to their own👍 Keep up the good work
ok so the smooth is a 1900s look that the east coast has had (from lathe and plaster days) and IMO is outdated and boring. orange peels, knock downs, skip trowels, and stomp textures give depth and design to the walls that truly only started in the lat 70s, 80s, and skip trowel didnt take hold in the mid west and west states until the 90s. so don't knock it until you know it. i have been a drywaller as a pro for 30+ years, ran hang crews, finish crews, and texture crews for a very long time. ran 100 patch guys in my area for 15 years, just before anyone wants to question my experience
Agreed. Where i live every new building has smooth walls and textured finishes are very old fashioned.
Meanwhile where I live every new house has texturing. Imo, non textured walls looks plain and dated. Atleast on drywall.
that drywall guy is too good for you to orange peel his work . Painter here
The 2 dislikes verylikely are from OSHA after watching the dude on top of the bucket at 9:35 😄
I want to know if he had any weight in the bottom of that before I try it. Some people are born with balance, or develop it to great effect.
We used to call them OHSh*t
Bucket dance, he was real good at it! Respect
Seen a taper almost travel as fast as a walk rolling along a time or two.
@@dvasymmetry9696 you just need a regular empty bucket. And no it doesn't require any particular athleticism or sense of balance. It's just a matter of hopping on the bucket and getting a feel for it. Try it sometime!
Much respect to that guy and even more to the person who washes his clothes
That man is worth 10 times whatever he made on that job. That work is tedious and hard as hell. Wow. He made that look easy.
That’s true. For the effort and required, mudders don’t make much.
There is something so satisfying about corners getting mudded, it makes everything feel so finished.
Covering rough edges
I hang drywall no problem. But mudding and finishing its worth it to hire someone who knows what they're doing
I’m a drywall hanger and if I ever have a project I will ALWAYS hire out. It’s an art honestly
Correct. It all looks so easy. Until you try to do it yourself!
until you see how much it costs, then you learn real quick and call it good enough, on your own stuff at least
agreed. I've hung lots of rock but never could get the feel for mudding.
Indeed
Thank you "Essential Craftsman" for giving tribute to this trade. I owned and operated my own drywall company is Seattle, WA. Thanks for you honoring and kind words.
I'm a marathon runner but just watching the effort these lads put in is making me feel tired, they're stretching and and bending and lifting and twisting all day long - great work!
Bad breakup, and Essential Craftsman is there with a video. Thank you Scott, Nate, and everyone else involved in the fantastic content!
Just commenting to boost your algorithmic thingy.
Ditto
Just feeding the algoritem.
@@isaackvasager9957 yo, i heard they liked comments on your comment on the comment on the vid
Ahhh, listening to Pink Floyd while you’re slinging mud. Brings me back to the old days.
Curious why you have decided to apply texture to the walls after such craftsmanship went into getting them perfectly flat and smooth?
If all they did was a light hand sanding, I doubt they would have looked perfectly flat and smooth once paint and lighting was applied.
Then again Ive been in homes were the homeowner was proud that they finished this room by themselves, that every seem and nail/screw was visible from 3 rooms away and had giant roller marks streaking up and down the walls, paint cut ins that jogged back and forth an inch on the walls/ceilings ec....
For reasons I still don't understand (I'm from the east coast) west coaters not only prefer but expect orange peel texture on their walls.. drove me nuts when I first moved out here.. gotten used to it over the years.
@@PortersMob - Nobody textures their walls where I'm from and we never have that problem. Walls look great.
@@UserNameAnonymous it’s 2 coats if ur putting texture and 3 coats of ur adding paint straight away
@@MandoFettOG West coaster here who hates orange peel!
It's nice to see true professionals at work. There's a lot more to doing drywall than I thought.
In my ignorance, I started this video thinking that this job would be like caulking plus scraping the excess.
Now I'm completely humbled by the amount of steps, details, skill and dexterity involved.
The things we take for granted...So much respect for this type of work now!
Thanks for this video!
Darren is a very skilled hanger and finisher of drywall. Takes me back to the days in the Midwest where I learned the trade. After moving back to the east coast, I was introduced to blue board and veneer skim coating. This has saved many thousands of hours on jobs over the years. There literally is about 3x the amount of work required with drywall than with veneer plastering, yet for some reason, people charge less for it. My hat goes off to Darren and his son, they do good work! Just glad I don't need that sander anymore. Thanks for the vid, Scott, keep em coming!
Steve.
If you want to be cruel to friends. Teach them how to spot crappy drywall mud jobs. They won't be able to unsee it and they'll find it everywhere.
Lol. So true. Me watching those crappy fix and flip shows: “Jesus look at that terrible seam!”
Same goes for bodywork on cars.
Ha! Show them all the things. My favorite is showing mistakes in crown mouldings.
Dad, is that you? :) Another is sighting vertical corners, IE an outside corner near you with an inside corner on the other side of the room, they should all be parallel since they are vertical, and when they aren't it stounds out once you know how to see it.
Darren is a master craftsman. I hope he is paid handsomely for his work.
Now here, we have a true craftsman. Excellent work.
sir, that's the nicest thing anyone has ever said about drywallers
I have done a ton of drywall as a general contractor/carpenter. Back in the day, texture was a cost effective way to finish drywall, in less time, without the additional steps smooth-wall requires. Darren did such a fantastic job finishing, sanding, and priming, that a final spot-skim with a drop-light, to highlight imperfections, would have produced a near level 5 finish. Note: to achieve a true level 5 finish, I have had tapers apply a "putty" coat buy rolling a coat of thinned topping mud on the entire surface and then spending an insane amount of time sanding with a drop-light. Smooth-wall in the long run is the best by far IMO.
Scott, as a texture job goes, you got the best there is!
I agree, I was a little taken back at the end when he was texturing the walls. I assumed it was just for ceilings. Seems like a lot of work went into making those walls smooth to then apply a texture over it made me cringe a little. In my area lower end budget fast production homes (~
It was a great job but I did not like the texture just a personal preference
People had the same gripes about the concrete texture.
For reasons I still don't understand (I'm from the east coast) west coaters not only prefer but expect orange peel texture on their walls.. drove me nuts when I first moved out here.. gotten used to it over the years.
That crew is so slick and he is a master of his trade. That was a joy to watch
They forgot to cover up a half dozen receptacle boxes and to fill the rest with mud!
Outstanding job, I wish the drywall contractors that came in behind us cared the way these gentleman do.
I like to for get to cut out the AC air return.....
LOL!!!
@@51-FS savage! 😂
I'm an electrician that does remodel and new construction work. I wish the GC's we work with would hire guys HALF this good. We are always having to find buried receptacles and lights behind drywall. This looks like exceptional work.
Thats when you start knocking 5 extra holes in the wall to find your box. Eventually it gets figured out its cheaper for them to not cover them....
Enjoying the process!? This has been nigh on as enjoyable to watch as it’s been to be a GC myself. I love watching every step of the way, and it’s so refreshing to hear another GC treat his project as though it’s his own home (even though it actually is your own home, ha). The love of hard work, strong hands, characters, and attention to detail is exactly why I am in this business, and to witness someone else clearly display the same care and joy is heartwarming. Honestly, thank you for taking the time to create this series, and thank you to everyone who has helped along the way!
Working hard and learning what I can with the intent to be a GC myself. I tell everyone I work with to PAY ATTENTION TO DETAIL! Detail is everything!
@@Brian-yz8dj EVERYTHING!!
Moving around on a bucket is an acquired skill that takes many years to master.
Perfect for this episode! Say little, show lot, inject only enough to explain the basics of what's being done. FINE editing Nate!
Plastering is such an art.
Absolute mastery. We don't tend to have a textured finish here in the UK (only on old wallpaper maybe?!), but wow that drywall finish was amazing. It would be nice if all trades people cared as much as this about the work they do.
Artex, maybe?
There's nothing more satisfying then watching a pro do his work. I can watch this all day.
working with extended arms above your head for long periods is killer I can't doit
Took me three extra-strength Advil just to watch this video. I cannot fathom how anyone can do that overhead work day-in and day-out.
All in the shoulders
@@savini8234 I have heart problems
Makes my neck hurt.
The young fella is so lucky to be building up his overhead working strength and stamina at his age.
That guy is an absolute unit! I'm immensely impressed.
After watching the final product from Darren and Jim, Suddenly i forgot about all the nails that all the guys talking from the previous episode. Great work!
It's ok, they'll remind the homeowner of themselves later on.
wow, that banjo is absolutely on fire. Great music selection!
With a fused neck, my days of working overhead are pretty much over, but it is a real pleasure to see this craft done so well.
I felt my cervical vertebrae seizing up just watching them work on that ceiling!
That tape/mud bazooka tool is incredible!
Surprised to not see perfect smooth or imperfect smooth on a house that nice. I’ve always felt like orange peel or any spray/knock down is the less nice look
For reasons I still don't understand (I'm from the east coast) west coaters not only prefer but expect orange peel texture on their walls.. drove me nuts when I first moved out here.. gotten used to it over the years.
Keeping the Bazooka straight is a challenge and he is amazingly accurate laying the tape so the crack is in the middle in the video wow.
H&S for Offices: "don't stand on chairs"
H&S for Construction: "yeah, walk around on a bucket" 9:40
I have so much respect for these guys. From a complete novice point of view I think these guys have the worst job in building a house. This work is so demanding! Nothing but respect for them
As a drywaller, I’ve never understood why people hate it so much. Once you master the process, it’s no harder than any other job
My shoulders ache! Great capture of an undervalued process.
a pleasure to watch masters at work
I’ve done a lot of drywall finish in 41 years
Never have I seen someone fill nails prior to taping
Taping is the most time consuming task
We’ve always done that and hit nails as we go
Till you get enough trowel time under your belt, sandpaper is your best friend
The apprentice work is nails.
This should be a mandatory watch for all moving company employees so they understand what goes into a level 5 wall.
Wouldn’t work. Insufficient IQ
This is far from a level 5 finish. Just a standard, production, tract home job.
@@WhiskeySix03 That wasn't my point
@@WhiskeySix03 No one likes a pedantic douche.
@@the215sean ahh. I see. You are correct. So much more work in a level five. Definitely don’t want it dinged up by careless movers.
I knew drywall was hard work, but this video really shows it. Fun to watch real pros.
This is an art form! So jealous of the experts who do this so well
Another great episode. I can't believe the "Keep up the good work" tagline hasn't been used already, but it's perfect for this channel.
Never seen it done to this extent.
Nice job.
Thanks Scott & Nate.
Enjoy Elohim!
Have a blessed Passover.
My hats off to all the men and women in the drywall and paint trade. It is by far the hardest trade on the body. And it takes a special touch to be able to do it.
I did it for 10 years before my back and neck gave out.
I got to wonder if that's an OSHA compliant bucket :D
This is the first time I've seen the "bazooka" and the "skim box" used. Like most of the videos on this channel it's fascinating and somehow stratifying to see home building tools used in the hands of seasoned professionals who's every move has clearly been streamlined and done thousands of times.
9:40 OSHA just had a heart attack. lol
Impressive skill set for an often underappreciated trade
I wish we had someone as skilled work on our house. We did major renovations and an upward addition a few years ago. This guy claimed to be a master plasterer from Italy. You can see every single sheet of drywall on the walls and ceilings. It really takes an artist to do this well.
That's why I now work alone, too many people claiming to be experts. I trust the guy who is modest and is a bit critical of their own work. I'm always learning new tricks in this trade.
Love watching this. Over the years hanging and taping with my Dad and brothers, the edges of the taping knives would get incredibly sharp from the friction of pulling the mud down the seams. Sharp enough to shave.
HE MAKES IT LOOK SO EASY, I’m just a remodeler but I wanna be as good as him.
Stapling the drywall corner bead is a awesome idea!!!! I will try to do this for now on
Amazing work by someone who clearly has mastered their craft.
I'm curious about your decision to texture. Texture is typically applied to cover blemishes and inconsistencies in finishing. As you called out, it depends on the trends and preferences of the year and area. With respect to the excellent work that Jim did mudding and finishing, I'd be curious to hear his thoughts and preferences around texture and the "need" for it at all. Thanks as always for the great content, happy to be a Patreon.
As a drywaller it usually depends on the builder and or homeowner. We drywallers love doing smooth but some ( the people paying) prefer the textured look. Different textures cover different amount but orange peel and knockdown cover everything. Most textures you just have to worry about edges and filling the bevel in the flat.
Im in Houston and our drywallers charge more for flat (level 5) or (stage 5) is what we call it here. It is high dollar
Im in Houston and our drywallers charge more for flat (level 5) or (stage 5) is what we call it here. It is high dollar
My understanding from doing this with my dad years ago was there is, besides the cover up property, an acoustic property to textures, it keeps sounds from echoing all over the house. Keep in mind that the hateful popcorn ceiling texture of the '70's & etc. is WAY not orange peel! :) LOL
I agree, adding texture is a mistake. Not only does it look crappy (which I'll grant is a personal choice) it is difficult to blend in the inevitable repairs. There will small (and large) changes, repairs, etc. over the years, and you will always see the line between new & old work. What a bad call.
Taping/muding is an art
That’s a true craft right there. It’s not as easy as he makes it look!
Darren.... a craftsman AND an artist!
I lost it at the walking on the 5 gallon!
100% agree with using fans. Also, we would use dehydrator units during this phase. It helps keep condensation from accumulating in the attic in colder climates.
Excellent Professional Information!
Thanks for all the great information, so far as I have watched the series for the second time. Thank you Scott & Nate
I can only imagine how long this would take without the specialized tools they have. That bazooka looks like a bear to master
Have used one, the first day you use one you will find drywall in your hair for weeks after...
Theirs a reason their referred to as "speed tools" in the industry. The same job would take 2-5x longer with just pan/knives over having the taper, boxes, corner tools ec....
That said though, these guys were far from fast, at least on camera. The hanging job alone could have been cut in half if they used a collated gun instead of loose fasteners....
@@PortersMob absolutely collated is a huge time saver and without the modern taping and mudding tools it is almost impossible even on smaller Jobs like finishing a basement to be profitable in drywall these days
Try running hot mud though one 80 minutes from mix on to clean out and tape 1000m2...6 big rolls of tape.
Love watching a true artist. Thanks.
Is Darren floating that entire house by himself? That's incredible.
My shoulders and neck hurt from just watching these guys.
"The Bucket Shuffle"😎👍
That drywaller is an absolute master craftsman. Beautiful work. That quality of hanging and finishing is hard to find nowadays. Great video.
Why texture the walls? I think a flat surface looks better when painted
If you want flat walls you have to coat all of it and sand it super flat, lest very nick in the wall show through paint and light.
In the south, its popular for people to just paint raw drywall.
In the south, paint also tends to peel often and painters are always needed. 🤔
The textured look is terrible in my opinion. Not only that, but repairing holes later is impossible.
For reasons I still don't understand (I'm from the east coast) west coaters not only prefer but expect orange peel texture on their walls.. drove me nuts when I first moved out here.. gotten used to it over the years.
Texture helps hide mistakes. If you attempt drywall finishing at your home for the first time, you will have many many mistakes. Even with a little experience, mistakes show on a flat wall. You might not know until a light or lamp points along the wall. An ant looks like a foot long streak for example
Level 5 is what its called and it cost alot of money, because of how perfect it has to be
I am always in awe at the guys who can sling mud onto walls and make them look great. I've tried - many times. I eventually get to "good enough", but it takes way more time and effort, and it never looks as good as these pros.
OK, I have to know. What the heck is it with people out here in the northwest and texturing?!? In the midwest they charge extra to add texture but out here they charge more to NOT have texture. So strange.
Thanks for this video, it was almost soothing to watch these guys do what they do so well. Loved your soundtrack as well.
Texture hides more imperfections so generally it's cheaper. With smooth there is nowhere for imperfections to hide so it costs more.
Surfaces getting texture can be level 3 drywall finish (tape and 2 coats mud) but the best smooth drywall will be level 5 where the entire board is skimmed and light checked while sanding.
@@timsonbrecheisen4280 Thanks for the info.
For reasons I still don't understand (I'm from the east coast) west coaters not only prefer but expect orange peel texture on their walls.. drove me nuts when I first moved out here.. gotten used to it over the years.
The right tools for the job help make the job right. Wish I had that kit.
Orange peel texture? Why? I have that stuff in my house. No, no, no, no... uhg.
With the right paint Orange Peel can look really nice. :)
@@CrummyVCR I was thinking that with a velcro suit, you might just stick to it.
I prefer the knock down texture myself. Helps break up long walls.
For reasons I still don't understand (I'm from the east coast) west coaters not only prefer but expect orange peel texture on their walls.. drove me nuts when I first moved out here.. gotten used to it over the years.
Agreed, smooth or knock down looks better. But it would be much more expensive as knockdown is orange peel finished by hand
Mudding and taping is hell on earth.
I'd say this job is as much art as is it labor, but I believe taping and mudding drywall has the phenomenon of being 50% art and 100% labor.
And you've got to be tougher than woodpecker lips to work with your arms overhead all day like that.
Very nice job on hanging of the drywall and mudding and the primer painting the walls.
Very outstanding job that is well done.
This really does make me appreciate the drywall guys. Wandering all over on stilts? No thanks!
With experience you get very comfortable and sure on them. After drywalling for years, I could walk through a plowed field in the dark on them. Routinely stilted out over entryways on plank and scaffold setups, clomped up and down stairs, etc.
@@Lugnut64052 note the “after drywalling for years...”
Definitely a master of his craft
Please cover the plumbing stub outs before texture crew. Phil will thank you
Like wallpaper, there is a reason I always hire this job out, the real pros can do it better than I ever could in maybe 1/4 of the time.
Cheers from Tokyo!
Stu
Ah yes, walking the bucket you're standing on. Almost a right of passage in the trades when you master that lol. Just like jumping a ladder.
I'll stick with jumping the ladder.
Never realized how big this house is until the drywall videos. Fantastic tradesmen these guys are!
I live in the land of Orange Peel. I absolutely hate it. It's a pain in the rear to paint it. You think you were careful painting it but somehow some holes in the texture require several passes to fill.
Texture and popcorn ceilings here and boy is it a pain to paint!
@@美優美結実優美夕みゆ Yeah, popcorn's the worst. It pops balloons, drops crud if something brushes against it, looks very dated, collects cobwebs, can't be scrubbed clean. Thankfully, ours was relatively easy to get rid of.