Am I the only one who leaves a snap chat episode in the middle of a topic to either build or make changes to a deck? The silver surfer discussion had me back and forth from the game to the podcast like a crazy person lol! Awesome episode as always guys!
Sera excels with 2 drops. Sera in Surfer is only good for a surprise turn 6. But they know it’s coming lol. A 3 drop and 2 drop on 5 and 2 3 drops on 6 vs Sera on 5 and 3 3 drops on 6. Kinda favors no Sera as far as power goes.
I'm surprised Snowguard didn't come up in the top 10 for Surfer cards, even in honorable mentions. That card is super flexible. You mentioned Crimson Cosmos. Snowguard is the most reliable way to get 3 cost cards into it.
Same it is a sleeper still. i saw Revis showcase a surfer deck that got top 4/8 or something like that and snowguard was in it and then i added it to my surfer list and now it is my favorite card to draw. Scares the pants off the Magik players if it doesnt you will win an 8 cuber. and gives you access to closed locations.
Had my fastest climb to infinite ever with Shaw. Had a bad month previous so I started at 43, and made infinite in just two days running a control/combo Shaw Surfer list.
@@drewfinn5369 lol sure and paying for Netflix is paying my way to be a film director 😂 I enjoy the game service so I pay for the monthly season pass. And Shaw can be bought in the token shop and with collectors keys too both for free by consistent regular gameplay my dude 🤷♂️
Interesting thoughts on Surfer. While he cannot clear a storm lane that was iffy anyway. I prefer him only moving face up cards because that way if I have priority I know what he is moving. I never drag a big card into a storm lane, or grab a face down when I want to move the face up card.
I agree on the top 2 for Surfer, but for me #3 is Sera, the 3* 3 costs on turn 6 is what makes Surfer scary, when its only 2 I feel like it is far easier to gameplan, predict, and counter what's coming down, but Surfer has enough variation that it's really the 3rd one that creates an unpredictable X factor. My number 4 would be Killmonger and my number 5 is Nova, Surfer being overloaded with 3 costs inherently creates some awkward turns where you are likely to float energy and the amount of power Nova provides the deck for 1 energy is absurd.
Thank you guys for this top ten, I LOVE Surfer and he’s been my main deck since I started playing back in august. Shaw is a great addition to the 3-cost pull and it’s been a lot of fun to play around him.
Great video! One of my favorites so far. Though I must say, the disrespect to Wolfsbane in the top 10 surfer cards is painful lol. I fully agree that Shaw and Maximus provide a great vertical stat line, but before shaw came out Wolfsbane was my number 1 vertical card on turn 6 or 7. Whether its in combination with brood to overtake their big play, or just to stack up a low power lane (especially with sera), you can almost guarantee a swing no one ever expects. Now with shaw, including nova and killmonger makes it easier too, Nova acts as a an easy way to boost Wolfsbane up before you killmonger and give everyone a buff. Especially considering she counts unrevealed cards. You combine those 2 cards (which most of the time they work really well with brood/Shaw) you can get the same/better stats with Wolfsbane as something like a maximus without a downside, and no one ever expects it. She is severely underrated in surfer.
fwiw I think I lean towards Alex's thinking on Surfer more than Cozy's. Sera for I'm probably somewhere between, I don't rate too highly because the season I got Infinite with Surfer I wasn't using her, old Spidey was there as my build was more controlling (plus Goose is awkward with her). Now, the 3*3 play is obviously a great finish but Surfer + Abs is also a surprise opponents don't tend to calculate. Maybe I'm too caught up with the new shiny that is Sebastian Shaw but I've found he's changed how I build the deck and the old Storm + Juggs combo has been left to the side because I'm all about maximum power output and they are quite low and take board space. The other thing I found awkward, especially if Werewolf is in the deck, is the amount of lockdown or just other Storms would mean you'd end up with little to no space and make yours (and my) no.1 a game losing card rather than a winner. As a side note going of off one of the topics on Cozy's side. This is the deck where I found I didn't think Chavez was complete trash, but she still is just a more expensive, less easily planned for Forge. Who once again takes board space up that Forge has a good chance of relieving if needed thanks to the Skillmonger.
Thanks the for the content, one of the only podcasts I’ve actually stuck with and easily one of the best parts of my Monday. Shaw has been the perfect definition of what a season pass card should be, not too broken but can shine in the right situations
Have to weigh in on some Christmas song favorites you guys are missing. 1. John Lennon - Happy Xmas 2. Julian Casablanca (of The Strokes) - Christmas Treat 3. *NSYNC - Merry Christmas Happy Holidays 4. Paul McCartney - Wonderful Christmas 5. Ariana Grande - Santa Tell Me Just give a quick listen and report next week
Mailbag: as parents, content creators, and Alex a full time job, can you talk a little about your time management and how you do it all? Love your content guys, your mix of positive energy, honest assessments, and great chemistry keep me coming back every week
Shaw is the nuts in early pool 3, but only gets better when you get more tools to buff him and protect him. I got werewolf by night in my spotlight cache and falcon earlier last week so ive been running a weird bounce buff list with shaw and werewolf and finding success with it.
Spider man makes it possible for werewolf to hump into the brood lane. He will jump to replace him. Totally not a problem to put brood and wolf together if you think it out
I think 4-cost Ronan will be amazing. I actually won gold conquest (just on tho) with ronan clogg deck!) Opponent couldn't play much cards with g.goblin, hood and all the rocks on his side
I think Ronan’s biggest problem is that, if you build around him and DON’T draw him… you’re screwed. You just give a load of cards to your opponent and don’t have enough to do anything back!
MAILBAG: Would love both your opinion on 2 card ideas! #1. An addition to Electra’s text making it so she absorbs the power of the card she destroys to bring this card back to life? #2. New card/archetype . Spider-man Noir with an ability to give cards in your hand or deck with an inked variant +1 power or on reveal swap this card (noir) for a card in your deck with an inked variant , I think this would be cool to bring variants into the game in a way that affects it.
Mail Bag: What do you think rework to kang should be ? My friend and I were talking about him having the same effect but replace kang after the rewind with one of his other variants and they each have their own effects and stat lines.
Surfer is always getting some new cards to play with. I feel like they make alot of 3 costs cards. So stacked at the 3. My top 10 surfer cards 1. Brood 2. Werewolf 3. Snowguard; She gives you 1 very useful 3 cost that wins you alot of games. 4. Goose 5. Sera 6. Spiderman 7. Polaris 8. Shaw 9. Forge 10. Juggernaut Honorable Mentions: Maximus, introduction of Blob make this a card to watch as a counter and best base stated 3 cost. Storm, Juggs combo is sick 70% of the time you almost guarantee a lane everytime.
Love the content thank you. Question- why are you guys so big on Iceman, who makes a card difficult to play, over Yondu - who actually removes the card completely?
Just saying: I won my first-ever Infinity Conquest with a Ronin Surfer deck. last turn Maximus Surfer or Mystique Maximus is a big spike if you've already hit em with Master Mold.
oh man... this was several months ago - if I had to guess at recreating it - aka just make a new one that I would use now since several things have changed - 1) the Ronan package: Ronan, Maximus, Mastermold, Mystique. 2) the Surfer power: Surfer, Sebastian Shaw, Brood, Forge. and 3) flexible slots, but I tend to lean heavily towards control here: Snowguard, Goose, Storm, Killmonger. I believe back in the day I ran both Jean Grey and Invisible Woman with it. @@javonh6761
you don't even have to have the Mystique to be honest - Mystique may be the first card to cut since she only has 2 possible targets - only 1 you'll usually want to hit. And that can only happen on turn 6. Not very flexible.
in fact I already changed my mind. cut Mystique and put in IW. she lets you play Maximus on curve so you can play a different 3 cost on 6, hide ronan to keep him safe, play mastermold without giving them sentinels if you're not gonna be able to prevent a draw with it, etc. Flexibility is the best way to win and Sebastian Shaw exists now so Mystique isn't the only other option for a tall card.
I got to Infinite this season with a Shaw Surfer deck that doesn't run Sera 👀 I started the season running a more conventional Sera Surfer Shaw deck and got slammed in maybe my third game by this Surfer deck running loads of 1 drops and WWBN... and it was inspirational, you know? Climbed from 73 to Infinite in two days with a cook inspired by it. Forge Spider-Ham Nico Snowguard Okoye Surfer Cosmo Juggernaut Killlmonger Nakia WWBN Shaw It takes a bit of learning to play. Not playing your 1 drops too early, planning where your WWBN is gonna go with your 1 drops on T4 and 5, Killmongering late to free up space for WWBN, winning priority and using Cosmo or Juggernaut aggressively. Juggernaut is in the slot I used to run Spider-Man but I found the change to him an effective nerf in this deck. Negasonic works well in this slot too. (Juggernaut is a greedier pick.) People never expect Killmonger because you're not running Nova and you've got so many of your own 1 drops. Cosmo protects your Shaw, and counters things like IW Hela (which is the personal bane of my existence). A lot of the success of this kind of deck is it is extremely surprising! (And feels totally mad to play, let alone play against.) But it works!
My Deck With 1. Forge / Nova 2. Okoye / Carnage 3. Brood / Shaw / Surfer / Monger / Gladiator / Maximus / Daken / Cosmo ALWAYS WINS! Even when Gladiator wins it for the other player it still wins.
Whoa! I’m surprised neither of you mentioned Wong + Mystique in your top 10 SS lists.. Maybe I’m greedy, but that combo ALWAYS makes my list. There’s also Magik.. she’s an honorable mention, but facilitates the combo above - AND she has SS synergy. Turn 3 Magik > Turn 4 or 5 Wong > Turn 6 Mystique + Surfer > Turn 7 Odin or Absorbing Man… 🫨 how come none of them made the cut?
My answer would be an "item" season. Akin to Hulk buster, Quinjet, Helacarrier, Cerebro Mjolnir, Ebony Blade, etc. How about something spicy like Eye of Agamotto, Tesseract, Infinity Gauntlet, The 10 Rings, Capt's Shield, Silver Surfer's Board, Ghost Riders Hell Bike, Web Shooters, The Darkhold, Terrigen Mist/Crystals, Excalibur, Gem of Cyttorak, The Blackbird, etc
Mailbag: Can you think of any card effects to push a new architype? For example, I'd like to see a card that gains power if your opponent doesn't draw a card when they should. This could give use to cards like Crystal, Master Mold and Baron Mordo.
MAILBAG: What would you want them to add to the Auto Fill to make it even better? Mine would have to be the ability to say you want to leave certain cards out of decks on purpose. Cozy actually showed the perfect example of why I want this feature added by trying to get the Auto Fill to replace Iron Lad. Sometimes I just wanna see what else could fit in with certain cards.
Mailbag: Other than Daken (which is kind of rare ) 4 season ago, we haven’t really see any changes to destroy, do you think anything is coming soon, buffs, nerfs, any cards that need a rework? Thanks, keep up the great work
Mail Bag Question: I am some distance from 6k tokens right now, and my missing pool 5 cards are (Galactus, Kang, Howard T. Duck, and in a few hours Blob) Blob I'm hoping to get with 2 keys. of the other three what are your thoughts on priority. *note: I am not a top tier player but I will try to learn to pilot most decks. Thanks for the content you two put out, It keeps the game fresh for me.
Mailbag: do you think you could do a list where we give you our best decks and you could pick, I don't know, like the best 3 for you, and give us some suggestion as well as some of your playtest? We could maybe find hiden jems as well as to learn some serious combos from you both masters
Mail bag: can you discuss thoughts on monetization development over time? Recent bundles $60-100 with mostly 1200 gold variants in shop… not really feeling incentivized to buy anything. The value isn’t there. $100 for two low mid cards and 10,000 tokens… baiting for the giant pile of tokes. I want to engage with the albums but I just can’t bring myself to do it.
Regarding Coke vs. Pepsi - Remember that different regions have different bottling plants with different recipes. I greatly prefer Diet Coke in most of the eastern US, but in Ontario, I prefer Diet Pepsi.
Speaking of the Daken comparison. Something that always confused me is why does the shard cost 1? Mjolnir is a 0/0 so why can’t the shard be the same? I don’t think it makes him THAT much stronger but it does buff him enough to be played outside of just discard decks
I’m not in the nerf WBN camp, I feel like it would destroy his viability on turn six, just to make up for his potential as a turn three play. I just feel like you should retreat if they have the set up and be done with it. I don’t think I’ve even seen him once this week anyway.
MAILBAG QUESTION: Is it fair for The "special" tasks to involve using a "premium" card especially for the F2P players who earnestly save their tokens? Apparently in order to get 400 tokens you have to either use your spotlights or shell out 3K-6k tokens just to earn 400...not very enticing as it appears???
I don't see why Cozy views Sera as an instant win condition. I mean, playing her on five means you have sacrificed playing a 3-drop on five, so that you can play it on six. Is her 4 power that big of an addition? Especially when you can play a 2-drop with the 3-drop on turn five.
Mailbag: would you like to start seeing cards that cause the same effects that already exist in a different way? e.g. Magik on reveal creates a limbo location, having another card that creates limbo but it is ongoing. If so what would they be?
MAILBAG: how does the game dicate what happens first when thing get move like moving a cosmo to a different lane but the on reveal card still resolve. Another example is when two captain marvel is on the board and one seem to fly to when and the other doesn't move at all.
MAILBAG: I have a daughter 10 years old and we share the love for marvel SNAP since the release. Now we share marvel and board games passions. Alex, what hobbies do you share with your children? Cozy what hobbies would you like to share with your kid when he is a little grown up?
I know Loki was over tuned but I don't think Ms. Marvel was. I think the devs got that right. I think she was more popular than Shaw will be. That's my main difference. But I played a lot of Ms. Marvel the first couple weeks. A ton of it. And there were games I didn't draw her or I got rogued or it just didn't work out. Same with Ms Marvel. It was kind of the packages around them that needed tuning. I think Shaw is right on par with Nebula, Nimrod, Elsa, MS. Marvel.
I think a dark avengers season would be super cool, alternate costumes for daken, get an iron patriot card, I just love the idea of the dark avengers lol
Why does every Season Pass card need to be universally usable? It's FINE to focus on an archetype for a month. Shaw is for Surfer, and he makes the deck so much smoother. There are times where I didn't draw Surfer, which often means a loss, but with Shaw, that's another win condition.
@AlexanderCoccia MAILBAG: If they released card variants based on content creators, what are some of the streamer-card combinations you think would be best? What would yours be?
Have What If?…. variants that work for multiple cards, like “What if Spider-man became The Punisher?” Let the variant work for spidey and punisher. EDIT: I’m with Coccia: with whiskey Pepsi and coke taste the same lol.
She is definitely a staple for me now... generated 2 more 3 costs gives you more room to play cheaper tech cards like Goose, Shadow King, etc in your deck
I mostly play surfer, and while both of these guys are much better players than me, I find it absolutely wild that Maximus is rated higher than Gladiator. I also really don't understand how Shaw is rated higher than Werewolf
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Been a hudge fan forever that’s so much for the content
A shoutout would be Awsome…. If you like my content.
I suggest my Jack sparrow videos
I voted for you Alex, because you're my favourite, even if you're not 𝘵𝘩𝘦 favourite ;)
Also voted for you
Am I the only one who leaves a snap chat episode in the middle of a topic to either build or make changes to a deck? The silver surfer discussion had me back and forth from the game to the podcast like a crazy person lol! Awesome episode as always guys!
Cozy's face when Alex put Sera low on his Surfer list was hilarious.
Sera excels with 2 drops. Sera in Surfer is only good for a surprise turn 6. But they know it’s coming lol. A 3 drop and 2 drop on 5 and 2 3 drops on 6 vs Sera on 5 and 3 3 drops on 6. Kinda favors no Sera as far as power goes.
@@glengaines4286 knowing that its coming most of the time doesnt mean that you can prevent it
@@crispsuk9779 True, but I never said it did. That’s beside my point anyways. I only listed the normal turn 5-6 with Sera vs without.
I'm surprised Snowguard didn't come up in the top 10 for Surfer cards, even in honorable mentions. That card is super flexible. You mentioned Crimson Cosmos. Snowguard is the most reliable way to get 3 cost cards into it.
I love Snowguard on turn 4 to get another bounce out of Werewolf, and then I can get into locations or turn off Limbo, it's such a strong card
Same it is a sleeper still. i saw Revis showcase a surfer deck that got top 4/8 or something like that and snowguard was in it and then i added it to my surfer list and now it is my favorite card to draw. Scares the pants off the Magik players if it doesnt you will win an 8 cuber. and gives you access to closed locations.
Had my fastest climb to infinite ever with Shaw. Had a bad month previous so I started at 43, and made infinite in just two days running a control/combo Shaw Surfer list.
Deck?? Please
Cool you payed your way to infinite, congrats.
@@drewfinn5369 lol sure and paying for Netflix is paying my way to be a film director 😂 I enjoy the game service so I pay for the monthly season pass. And Shaw can be bought in the token shop and with collectors keys too both for free by consistent regular gameplay my dude 🤷♂️
@@ChipCrisper Forge/Okoye/Brood/Negasonic/Silver Surfer/Storm/Juggernaut/Nakia/Werewolf By Night/Shaw/Wong/Sera
Negasonic is such a slept on card. It is amazing how many games I have won due to her locking down a lane or catching an opponent off guard
Interesting thoughts on Surfer. While he cannot clear a storm lane that was iffy anyway. I prefer him only moving face up cards because that way if I have priority I know what he is moving. I never drag a big card into a storm lane, or grab a face down when I want to move the face up card.
Cozy’s Patriot/Surfer deck pushed me through the 90s to infinite this season. Shaw was effective!
I agree on the top 2 for Surfer, but for me #3 is Sera, the 3* 3 costs on turn 6 is what makes Surfer scary, when its only 2 I feel like it is far easier to gameplan, predict, and counter what's coming down, but Surfer has enough variation that it's really the 3rd one that creates an unpredictable X factor.
My number 4 would be Killmonger and my number 5 is Nova, Surfer being overloaded with 3 costs inherently creates some awkward turns where you are likely to float energy and the amount of power Nova provides the deck for 1 energy is absurd.
Thank you guys for this top ten, I LOVE Surfer and he’s been my main deck since I started playing back in august. Shaw is a great addition to the 3-cost pull and it’s been a lot of fun to play around him.
Great video! One of my favorites so far.
Though I must say, the disrespect to Wolfsbane in the top 10 surfer cards is painful lol. I fully agree that Shaw and Maximus provide a great vertical stat line, but before shaw came out Wolfsbane was my number 1 vertical card on turn 6 or 7. Whether its in combination with brood to overtake their big play, or just to stack up a low power lane (especially with sera), you can almost guarantee a swing no one ever expects. Now with shaw, including nova and killmonger makes it easier too, Nova acts as a an easy way to boost Wolfsbane up before you killmonger and give everyone a buff. Especially considering she counts unrevealed cards. You combine those 2 cards (which most of the time they work really well with brood/Shaw) you can get the same/better stats with Wolfsbane as something like a maximus without a downside, and no one ever expects it. She is severely underrated in surfer.
fwiw I think I lean towards Alex's thinking on Surfer more than Cozy's. Sera for I'm probably somewhere between, I don't rate too highly because the season I got Infinite with Surfer I wasn't using her, old Spidey was there as my build was more controlling (plus Goose is awkward with her). Now, the 3*3 play is obviously a great finish but Surfer + Abs is also a surprise opponents don't tend to calculate.
Maybe I'm too caught up with the new shiny that is Sebastian Shaw but I've found he's changed how I build the deck and the old Storm + Juggs combo has been left to the side because I'm all about maximum power output and they are quite low and take board space.
The other thing I found awkward, especially if Werewolf is in the deck, is the amount of lockdown or just other Storms would mean you'd end up with little to no space and make yours (and my) no.1 a game losing card rather than a winner.
As a side note going of off one of the topics on Cozy's side. This is the deck where I found I didn't think Chavez was complete trash, but she still is just a more expensive, less easily planned for Forge. Who once again takes board space up that Forge has a good chance of relieving if needed thanks to the Skillmonger.
Thanks the for the content, one of the only podcasts I’ve actually stuck with and easily one of the best parts of my Monday. Shaw has been the perfect definition of what a season pass card should be, not too broken but can shine in the right situations
Have to weigh in on some Christmas song favorites you guys are missing.
1. John Lennon - Happy Xmas
2. Julian Casablanca (of The Strokes) - Christmas Treat
3. *NSYNC - Merry Christmas Happy Holidays
4. Paul McCartney - Wonderful Christmas
5. Ariana Grande - Santa Tell Me
Just give a quick listen and report next week
@alexanderCoccia you are crazy!!!! Last Christmas is S tier Christmas song!!!! Love everything you guys do thank you, keep up the great work ❤
Mailbag: as parents, content creators, and Alex a full time job, can you talk a little about your time management and how you do it all?
Love your content guys, your mix of positive energy, honest assessments, and great chemistry keep me coming back every week
Okoye Stocks skyrocketing with Sebastian Shaw & Blob
Shaw is the nuts in early pool 3, but only gets better when you get more tools to buff him and protect him. I got werewolf by night in my spotlight cache and falcon earlier last week so ive been running a weird bounce buff list with shaw and werewolf and finding success with it.
Spider man makes it possible for werewolf to hump into the brood lane. He will jump to replace him. Totally not a problem to put brood and wolf together if you think it out
Thanks for taking my mailbag question! Great episode as always. 🙂
I think 4-cost Ronan will be amazing. I actually won gold conquest (just on tho) with ronan clogg deck!) Opponent couldn't play much cards with g.goblin, hood and all the rocks on his side
If these snapchats have taught me anything it’s that I Could listen to you guys talk about anything
I think Ronan’s biggest problem is that, if you build around him and DON’T draw him… you’re screwed. You just give a load of cards to your opponent and don’t have enough to do anything back!
That Storm split is gorgeous.
MAILBAG: Would love both your opinion on 2 card ideas! #1. An addition to Electra’s text making it so she absorbs the power of the card she destroys to bring this card back to life? #2. New card/archetype . Spider-man Noir with an ability to give cards in your hand or deck with an inked variant +1 power or on reveal swap this card (noir) for a card in your deck with an inked variant , I think this would be cool to bring variants into the game in a way that affects it.
Mail Bag: What do you think rework to kang should be ? My friend and I were talking about him having the same effect but replace kang after the rewind with one of his other variants and they each have their own effects and stat lines.
Surfer is always getting some new cards to play with. I feel like they make alot of 3 costs cards. So stacked at the 3.
My top 10 surfer cards
1. Brood
2. Werewolf
3. Snowguard; She gives you 1 very useful 3 cost that wins you alot of games.
4. Goose
5. Sera
6. Spiderman
7. Polaris
8. Shaw
9. Forge
10. Juggernaut
Honorable Mentions: Maximus, introduction of Blob make this a card to watch as a counter and best base stated 3 cost.
Storm, Juggs combo is sick 70% of the time you almost guarantee a lane everytime.
I about died when cozy stared at the camera when Alex announced sera at 7 😂😂😂
Best soundbite: "It feels very awkward to get that shart out."
I have been testing Black Panther in the 5 drop slot for shaw-surfer and it has led to some clutch wins.
Haha hell yeah. Wakandan surfer baby!👏
Love the content thank you.
Question- why are you guys so big on Iceman, who makes a card difficult to play, over Yondu - who actually removes the card completely?
Just saying: I won my first-ever Infinity Conquest with a Ronin Surfer deck. last turn Maximus Surfer or Mystique Maximus is a big spike if you've already hit em with Master Mold.
I'm a Ronan fan! What was your list!
oh man... this was several months ago - if I had to guess at recreating it - aka just make a new one that I would use now since several things have changed - 1) the Ronan package: Ronan, Maximus, Mastermold, Mystique. 2) the Surfer power: Surfer, Sebastian Shaw, Brood, Forge. and 3) flexible slots, but I tend to lean heavily towards control here: Snowguard, Goose, Storm, Killmonger. I believe back in the day I ran both Jean Grey and Invisible Woman with it. @@javonh6761
you don't even have to have the Mystique to be honest - Mystique may be the first card to cut since she only has 2 possible targets - only 1 you'll usually want to hit. And that can only happen on turn 6. Not very flexible.
in fact I already changed my mind. cut Mystique and put in IW. she lets you play Maximus on curve so you can play a different 3 cost on 6, hide ronan to keep him safe, play mastermold without giving them sentinels if you're not gonna be able to prevent a draw with it, etc. Flexibility is the best way to win and Sebastian Shaw exists now so Mystique isn't the only other option for a tall card.
Sera is an illusion in surfer. She just shifts you playing a 3 on 5 to being able to play it on 6.
I got to Infinite this season with a Shaw Surfer deck that doesn't run Sera 👀
I started the season running a more conventional Sera Surfer Shaw deck and got slammed in maybe my third game by this Surfer deck running loads of 1 drops and WWBN... and it was inspirational, you know?
Climbed from 73 to Infinite in two days with a cook inspired by it.
Forge
Spider-Ham
Nico
Snowguard
Okoye
Surfer
Cosmo
Juggernaut
Killlmonger
Nakia
WWBN
Shaw
It takes a bit of learning to play. Not playing your 1 drops too early, planning where your WWBN is gonna go with your 1 drops on T4 and 5, Killmongering late to free up space for WWBN, winning priority and using Cosmo or Juggernaut aggressively.
Juggernaut is in the slot I used to run Spider-Man but I found the change to him an effective nerf in this deck. Negasonic works well in this slot too. (Juggernaut is a greedier pick.)
People never expect Killmonger because you're not running Nova and you've got so many of your own 1 drops.
Cosmo protects your Shaw, and counters things like IW Hela (which is the personal bane of my existence).
A lot of the success of this kind of deck is it is extremely surprising! (And feels totally mad to play, let alone play against.) But it works!
My Deck With
1. Forge / Nova
2. Okoye / Carnage
3. Brood / Shaw / Surfer / Monger / Gladiator / Maximus / Daken / Cosmo
ALWAYS WINS! Even when Gladiator wins it for the other player it still wins.
Gladiator used to be the best Tech card in the game for getting the other players Chavez out on turn 3 now it finds way more creative ways to suck
Daken is really more of a Discard or Destroy card, but if you can Surfer him and Nova him before you get rid of the shard, he gets pretty crazy.
Whoa! I’m surprised neither of you mentioned Wong + Mystique in your top 10 SS lists.. Maybe I’m greedy, but that combo ALWAYS makes my list.
There’s also Magik.. she’s an honorable mention, but facilitates the combo above - AND she has SS synergy.
Turn 3 Magik > Turn 4 or 5 Wong > Turn 6 Mystique + Surfer > Turn 7 Odin or Absorbing Man… 🫨 how come none of them made the cut?
My answer would be an "item" season. Akin to Hulk buster, Quinjet, Helacarrier, Cerebro Mjolnir, Ebony Blade, etc. How about something spicy like Eye of Agamotto, Tesseract, Infinity Gauntlet, The 10 Rings, Capt's Shield, Silver Surfer's Board, Ghost Riders Hell Bike, Web Shooters, The Darkhold, Terrigen Mist/Crystals, Excalibur, Gem of Cyttorak, The Blackbird, etc
shaw is really good in negative surfer. Wong + mystique into wolfsbane/ironheart + surfer steals so many cubes.
I'm with Alex. I'd love to see some Alpha Flight in Marvel Snap!
I've been having a ton of fun playing sera/surfer/Shaw. You can put out so much power on turn 6! Love all of the deck variations so far
Mailbag: Can you think of any card effects to push a new architype? For example, I'd like to see a card that gains power if your opponent doesn't draw a card when they should. This could give use to cards like Crystal, Master Mold and Baron Mordo.
MAILBAG: What would you want them to add to the Auto Fill to make it even better?
Mine would have to be the ability to say you want to leave certain cards out of decks on purpose.
Cozy actually showed the perfect example of why I want this feature added by trying to get the Auto Fill to replace Iron Lad. Sometimes I just wanna see what else could fit in with certain cards.
Mailbag: Other than Daken (which is kind of rare ) 4 season ago, we haven’t really see any changes to destroy, do you think anything is coming soon, buffs, nerfs, any cards that need a rework? Thanks, keep up the great work
Mail Bag Question: I am some distance from 6k tokens right now, and my missing pool 5 cards are (Galactus, Kang, Howard T. Duck, and in a few hours Blob) Blob I'm hoping to get with 2 keys. of the other three what are your thoughts on priority. *note: I am not a top tier player but I will try to learn to pilot most decks. Thanks for the content you two put out, It keeps the game fresh for me.
When it comes to rye, you will gladly take whatever dark sugary carbonated beverage is closest. 39:44
Mailbag: do you think you could do a list where we give you our best decks and you could pick, I don't know, like the best 3 for you, and give us some suggestion as well as some of your playtest?
We could maybe find hiden jems as well as to learn some serious combos from you both masters
Never played surfer until this week. SOOOOO glad I did. I love this deck
What I love about Alex is he’ll be honest with you
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I don't care what anyone says!
Mail bag: can you discuss thoughts on monetization development over time? Recent bundles $60-100 with mostly 1200 gold variants in shop… not really feeling incentivized to buy anything. The value isn’t there. $100 for two low mid cards and 10,000 tokens… baiting for the giant pile of tokes. I want to engage with the albums but I just can’t bring myself to do it.
Regarding Coke vs. Pepsi - Remember that different regions have different bottling plants with different recipes. I greatly prefer Diet Coke in most of the eastern US, but in Ontario, I prefer Diet Pepsi.
Speaking of the Daken comparison. Something that always confused me is why does the shard cost 1? Mjolnir is a 0/0 so why can’t the shard be the same? I don’t think it makes him THAT much stronger but it does buff him enough to be played outside of just discard decks
I’m not in the nerf WBN camp, I feel like it would destroy his viability on turn six, just to make up for his potential as a turn three play. I just feel like you should retreat if they have the set up and be done with it. I don’t think I’ve even seen him once this week anyway.
MAILBAG QUESTION: Is it fair for The "special" tasks to involve using a "premium" card especially for the F2P players who earnestly save their tokens? Apparently in order to get 400 tokens you have to either use your spotlights or shell out 3K-6k tokens just to earn 400...not very enticing as it appears???
I don't see why Cozy views Sera as an instant win condition. I mean, playing her on five means you have sacrificed playing a 3-drop on five, so that you can play it on six. Is her 4 power that big of an addition? Especially when you can play a 2-drop with the 3-drop on turn five.
Great episode per usual.
Mailbag Question: How do you feel about deck trackers? Fair? Unfair?
And you wanna play Nova before the shard so daken gets that boost as well.. yeah it's a busy card...
Mailbag: would you like to start seeing cards that cause the same effects that already exist in a different way? e.g. Magik on reveal creates a limbo location, having another card that creates limbo but it is ongoing. If so what would they be?
The Shaw release reminds me of modok drop tbh. Amazing in 1 deck. But its soo good in it..
“I was PUMPING Negasonic” -Alex Coccia
Did Cozy say Nate King Cole? Nat King Cole, thanks Alex for fixing that, lol
In my Surfer deck I have, Sera, Juggernaut, Polaris for stats, Luke cage and shadow king just to name a few
Gladiator is a legitimately good card. I will die on this hill.
MAILBAG: how does the game dicate what happens first when thing get move like moving a cosmo to a different lane but the on reveal card still resolve. Another example is when two captain marvel is on the board and one seem to fly to when and the other doesn't move at all.
MAILBAG: Best memorable Christmas gift all time?!
MAILBAG: Have you ever considered doing something related to rating home brew decks from the audience? (try #2)
MAILBAG: I have a daughter 10 years old and we share the love for marvel SNAP since the release. Now we share marvel and board games passions.
Alex, what hobbies do you share with your children?
Cozy what hobbies would you like to share with your kid when he is a little grown up?
Mailbag question:
Which card would you rework completely if you could, a la Spider-Man, Chavez, etc.?
I played Gladiator for a bit in destroy and I destroyed Silver Surfer twice in a conquest match, pretty early both times, it was hilarious 😂
I know Loki was over tuned but I don't think Ms. Marvel was. I think the devs got that right. I think she was more popular than Shaw will be. That's my main difference. But I played a lot of Ms. Marvel the first couple weeks. A ton of it. And there were games I didn't draw her or I got rogued or it just didn't work out. Same with Ms Marvel. It was kind of the packages around them that needed tuning. I think Shaw is right on par with Nebula, Nimrod, Elsa, MS. Marvel.
Cozy making the Texans proud! Lets go Dr. Pepper!
One issue is Forge does not trigger Shaw’s ability. If it did, Shaw would jump to 8 power but nope just 6.
He does trigger Shaw's ability; it's pretty clearly a graphical glitch. The total power at the location is correct, the power shown on Shaw is not
@@shanesather9435 - Ah dang glitches. Nice.
Master Mold should be a 2/3 and either give your Sentinels +1 power or -1 cost
Bro said Nate King Cole, love you Cozy
I think a dark avengers season would be super cool, alternate costumes for daken, get an iron patriot card, I just love the idea of the dark avengers lol
Great stuff guys. Much appreciation for your hard work and time on this fantastic content.
Thanks for the video. Like Cozy, I'm also a big fan of Dr. Pepper.
MAILBAG If there was one card that you had to include in every deck from now on, what would it be? Mine is Hulk Buster or Vision.
Alex... You got my vote in the upcoming tournament.... Put in work, man!
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with the wakandans and shaw, gladiator isn't really that bad! i run him to pretty good success!
i love being able to play surfer again, being able to go tall helped him out so much
MAILBAG:What if they had series 6 for the alter ego of the heroes. E.G. a Tony Stark, Bruce Banner etc.
Evolutions of existing cards like iron man becoming a hobgoblin like that divides power by 2 at that location
just started playing, entering pool 2 right now, how could i use shaw with the pool 2 cards available to me?
Why does every Season Pass card need to be universally usable? It's FINE to focus on an archetype for a month. Shaw is for Surfer, and he makes the deck so much smoother. There are times where I didn't draw Surfer, which often means a loss, but with Shaw, that's another win condition.
Hey what do you guys think about Nico in shaw surfer?
Canada was “done dirty”. 😂
i've been loving putting Cosmo in a lane then dropping Shaw in so he can't be shadow king'd or shang chi'd
@AlexanderCoccia MAILBAG: If they released card variants based on content creators, what are some of the streamer-card combinations you think would be best? What would yours be?
Punisher needs LOVE
I’ve been winning a lot with Ronan / Ms Marvel. Pretty solid deck.
Iceman / Nebula
Master Mold / Zabu / Jeff
Mystique / Mobius / Maximus
Ms Marvel / Shang-Chi
Ronan
Alioth
40:11 that’s what I’m talking about the goat loves coke I’m not even surprised
So easy to climb to infinity this season with ravonna moon girl. Feels op big time
I’m from Louisiana so it’s always “What coke you want? Coca Cola, Sprite, Dr. Pepper?” Idk why we do this 😅
Have What If?…. variants that work for multiple cards, like “What if Spider-man became The Punisher?” Let the variant work for spidey and punisher.
EDIT: I’m with Coccia: with whiskey Pepsi and coke taste the same lol.
Finally surfer time is here!
“Nate King Cole” 😂😂😂
Where do we put questions for the mail bag?
Just ask them here on the snap chat videos! Type MAILBAG: "your question"
I hit infinite this season by playing a Dino Surfer deck. So best surfer card is agent coulson!!!
Alex I voted for you, I will be expecting that deathsquak variant lol
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I mean snowguard Is pretty good too
She is definitely a staple for me now... generated 2 more 3 costs gives you more room to play cheaper tech cards like Goose, Shadow King, etc in your deck
I mostly play surfer, and while both of these guys are much better players than me, I find it absolutely wild that Maximus is rated higher than Gladiator. I also really don't understand how Shaw is rated higher than Werewolf