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“Elizabeth, who should have been the wife of Elizabeth Palmer.” - This is the inscription of a mysterious grave in Little Compton, RI. Today we investigate that inscription.
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References/Further Reading:
BUFFALO EVENING NEWS - April 19th, 1943
The Memphis Commercial Appeal - September 21st, 1938
The Providence Evening Bulletin - July 7th, 1951
COUNCIL BLUFFS NONPAREIL - April 18th, 1931
Quincy Patriot Ledger - January 7th, 1960
Bi-centennial Celebration of the United Congregational Church of Little Compton - September 7th, 1904
The Brooklyn Standard Union - August 1st, 1899
The Baltimore Sun - September 13th, 1964
Los Angeles Daily News - March 20th, 1939
Manufacturers and Farmers Journal - July 18th, 1901
littlecompton.....
If I saw this stone, my first thought would have been that Elizabeth died while she and Simeon were engaged.
Same 🙋🏻♀️
👀
My thoughts exactly
Me too.
But she was 64 according to the grave
Nobody digs up more interesting stories than you, and nobody tells them better than you, man. Thanks as always.
I was expecting the reason for Simon writing such a snide headstone would be something stupid like Elizabeth not doing laundry often enough, or refusing to allow Simon to use her backdoor; yet somehow the true answer was far stranger and far more petty.
When I first read your comment and it says using her “back door”, I was thinking what? That’s gross, and frankly rude….as if thats a reason to be bitter…..…..I thought you were being coy and obnoxious, misogynistic …then realized you meant literally her back door! Mind went straight to the gutter. My apologies for so many accusatory thoughts….😂😮
@@Sea-cucumber1151 No, it's the gutter one. The joke being that it would be an incredibly petty and obnoxious reason to be angry over, and yes, indeed misogynistic. That's the framework of the joke, these aren't supposed to be reasonable reasons to be angry.
@Sea-cucumber1151 the actual lack of awareness u have is insane first off u read the comment and then thought the person was saying that not doing butt stuff was a reasonable reason to have this gravestone
But then u still didn't realize that u agreed so u read it again then thought they meant a back door to a house ? I'm just guessing at ur thought
U still didn't understand that this person was saying
So I'll break it down
They thought it would be something silly and it was something silly just not something silly we expected im actually worried u are out in public not trying to be mean or even Crack a joke because oo boy ur silly
I may have something put on my sister's stone when she dies. Her senior year locker combo.
When she was a senior, I was a sophomore. She would have me put her books in her locker. I kept forgetting the combo. Near the end of the year, I asked her about it again. She half yelled "It's 0-10-48, and don't forget it this time!"
She graduated in 1992. I've never been able to forget it in all these years.
It would be an eternal rub on her to have her stone say 0-10-48.
😂 absolutely
😂😂😂😂
Respect 😂👊
My dream is to have a grave marker so cool it's covered by a future descendant of Dime Store Adventures.
This took such a freaking turn holy cow.
Holy cat, rather.
Wow💛
Holy cat is right
What a weird story and a crazy man. I respect Elizabeth for resisting.
My first guess was Simeon had an affair with Elizabeth either before or during his marriage to Lydia. Lydia was either viewed as a better match or refused to divorce him.
Simeon is completely unhinged, 😂 !!! Im in Jersey i gotta make it up there to bring these ladies some roses, im so glad you have passed on the story for Elizabeth. ❤
Elizabeth was before her time, as it is said.
Drew a line and adhered to it.
I've got my stone planned out already. It's going to say: "I'm pushing really hard so there better be some $%*&@ daisies up there"
😂
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That is cute.
Omg that's so cute!! I love it!! 😂😂
The best one i've ever seen was a woman's headstone....
If you can read this, you're standing on my tits.
The fact you go to the location and give the explanations there is insane man, that is dedicated!
@beaverofthepola2071 What does this have to do with my comment, I said dude goes to these places and explains the story, real or not, at said location
The poetic justice of his gravestone being lost to time and hers still standing creating mystery and intrigue.
Another great story!
One thing,...."slander" is verbal,....if it's in print, it's "libel" and is a more serious offence.
Thanks for for letting the cat out of the bag on this despicable man ! To bad a cat didn’t get his tongue! Always like looking at old headstones especially the old graveyards. Great video and camera angles of the graveyard. 🐆🐆🐆👍
This is one of my favorite channels to watch. Focusing on the little minutia of folk history is far and few between these days so it's nice to see it isn't forgotten.
Thank you for doing your due diligence and giving Elizabeth her dignity back. ^_^
I'm just going to go ahead and imagine that, where ever Simeon's headstone may be, it says, "Should have been a real man instead of an pathetic coward." lol
I was not prepared... What the actual frick!?
You're a fantastic story teller and an underrated channel.
But you make videos because you like to, Not just to satisfy the needs of viewers. That's why I like you.
Keep doing what you love my guy, I'm not in a position to be your Patrion, But I love your ability to tell stories.
Maybe it's a "there's plenty of stray cats, free food! Be a good servant and be cheap and obedient as possible!"? Cause I cannot even wrap my head around this!🤯
Nope,won't fly no matter how you try to clean it up. Hunting was free back then. That must've been one Helluva heatstroke to bake his brain into being that kinda freak.
I admit I'd have left. And not go back to give him a kindly ear 🤨
I'm a bit surprised by the story, TBH. Cat meat consumption wasn't particularly unusual in 1760, but it would have been when the story was recorded in the late 19th century. This makes me doubt its veracity. Elizabeth's reaction to it is an anachronism; kind of like someone in 1900 said to have insisted on a vegan diet.
Reading the newspaper clip, it sounds to be like he insisted on eating cat *food*, not cat *meat*...
@@renerphoThe "died from eating too much cat" also makes me doubt the truth of this. It might be socially unacceptable, even gross, but people CAN eat cat. She didn't die from eating too much cat. If that isn't true then what else in the story isn't true? I don't know, this just seems very mythological, the neighbors' gossip about what they heard happened 100 years before just really isn't a compelling source to me. I'm also not sure what "cat food" means at this time. Special food sold just for cats wasn't really a thing until a century after this story. People generally let their cats be pest control and hunt their own food, maybe giving them scraps of meat.
Ah, yes, an average Rhode Islander.
I don't blame you, Elizabeth. Simeon was off his rocker.
Simeon may have contracted Toxoplasmosis
In theory if that affected humans, wouldn't that cause someone to want to do the opposite? It's supposed to make small animals want to get eaten by cats
it does affect humans. it can kill you
It cannot kill you. There’s not a ton of research on it being as it’s a brain parasite and difficult to study in humans without taking samples. There however is some evidence to suggest it might be much more common in humans than previously thought and basically would just make you more agreeable cats’ wants. Like if your cat wants more food your more likely to give them more. If you got more than one cat you probably have it
@@dmcgee3 Wrong on all counts.
@@dmcgee3 this is wrong and weirdly judgemental. There's plenty of evidence that it can cause mental health issues like schizophrenia.
as well as neurological issues. it can kill people.
Theres an Oddfellows Cemetery here in my town that the parents put up the headstone and it's very clear that they hated the husband. It's something like beloved daughter who married so and so and then became ill and battled her illness bravely but perished. They way it was worded it was like if she hadn't married this loser she wouldn't have gotten sick and died. That's why I love going to the old cemeteries
Your channel is so underrated, I just stumbled on this a few days ago. Love the stories and history you're digging up!
Dude, you're an absolute treasure on this platform. Love it, keep it up
Stellar intro sequence yo - can tell you put lot of thought into it. Keep it up, love watching your videos and enjoying your natural talent. Your enthusiasm makes it seem as if these videos are a blast to create, and I surely hope they actually are. Great work.
Easily becoming one of my favorite channels on UA-cam! Keep it up man!
Copper-backed headstones are a rare practice more over the copper has been stolen for its value over the centuries.
it's a European tradition practiced from the netherlands to the Scandinavian countries it might be connected to the Vikings although not much evidence remains because of the above-mentioned theft of the copper most we usually find is the copper oxide on a headstone showing it was once copper-backed other than that I have found that there are about a 100 graves in existence with complete copper backed headstones on our beautiful planet today.
Thanks for using this platform to vindicate Elizabeth. Thanks speaking up for her when others remained silent, assuming only the worst about her character. The truth has been out there this whole time, waiting for someone to take the initiative and look for it. Good on you.
I love visiting cemeteries because you can learn so much about a community by reading the headstones of the older inhabitants (not so much nowadays). When I taught 5th grade for 6 years I would teach my class about the symbolism of the grave art and how we could learn a lot about our town’s original inhabitants (as a part of American history) and then we would actually visit the cemetery to do grave rubbings, find family members buried there and learn about the people by reading the inscriptions on the headstones. My students loved this activity and several have told me that they continue to do it and have introduced their children to it.
Damn....
I have to say, that completely surprised me. Truth really is stranger than fiction. You could never get away with a story like that if it wasn't true.
Gotta make sure that when I die, the mortician doesn’t have it out for me
Yeah, Simeon went insane. Wtf.
Another great video. I definitely was not expecting this to be his problem lol
This is why it's good that we as a society decided that lead and mercury are bad things and promptly removed them from as much of life as possible. I suspect this is the source of all the strangest beefs, habits and sheer lunatic pettiness that human history is dotted with.
How about arsenic?
How about small isolated communities? That's a gotta be a factor as well.
@@woah6958For certain!! Isolation makes it much easier for the, Rev. Richard Billings of the world, to convince people, to do ludicrous things.
Or a desperation for an answer/cure to the myriad of diseases and afflictions that plaqued people.
If you didnt know about germs or genetics or nutrition and saw every manner of the afflicted and couldn't understand why some seemed contagious, some seemed only contagious within a family and other just struck down people at random or en masse you'd be pretty superstitious too. Hell people currently are if you look at the wacky beliefs around what causes modern aliments we dont currently know the cause of or prevention thereof.
If you’re ever in Wellfleet cape cod take a look at the Moses dill grave stone in duck creek cemetery It seems Off in some way.
I imagine there were a lot of Missing Cat signs everywhere too!
They probably posted on Facebook. 😁
im a little compton native! went to school across the street from this cemetery. spent a lot of time there
That’s a great story, and really great storytelling. Thank you.
OMG WOW just wow. BTW, I don't know why you don't have more subs. Your channel is awesome. I just found it and am binge watching. I'm a cemetery/old church/historical marker fan. I''ve been to every cemetery in southeast LA with my bff who passed away a few years ago. We had so much fun together.
Your videos are so interesting. Thanks for the great history and old stories.
TY for your fun quirky stories
Notice the postcard must be very old, and since that was published, someone put copper/bronze edging “support” on Elizabeth’s stone. Not a good idea. As we can see the copper corrodes, and further, it is not the same material as the stone, so both can cause problems. Stone seemed perfectly good. (I love slate, when it doesn’t delaminate.)
many are saying it was cat food and not cat meat. If this happened at the same time where whaling for oil was a big thing, then it would be quite plausible that the "cat food" was the whale meat that was sold as animal food.
The man was insane, so was his friend.
My God, he’s Alf!
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Simeon was petty AF
Oh wow from RI, Little Compton relatives.
I had no clue this cemetery was there.
Great channel.
Look at the very small space from the head of tombstone to the head of the following headstone. Were these people like two feet tall?
Oh good grief! I was thinking the exact same thing! Did they cut off their legs or put one casket partly on top of another??
Pretty sad when your headstone says something you don’t agree with, but you’re in no position to argue.
Awwww my kitty is laying on me while watching this.
Simeon also had 6 kids with Lydia which meant she had 7 kids to care for normal in those days but adding in the cat eating 😮
I envy all the history yall have back east..... The closest thing like that to me would be the house of the doctor from the book Starvation Heights....She apparently conned rich heiresses to come to her healing place and then starved them before having them sign thier fortunes over to her and her partner..... house and graveyard are about 5 miles from my house... slim pickings for old history here in the pnw.....
So the dispute was about refusing to regularly eat cat. There's a joke in there, somewhere.
I did not see that coming. 😮
Everybody has someone in their family that's unconventional! We have Mr. Alonzo Butler who couldn't make up his mind in the 1860s between Viola and Maggie. He had a son with the single Viola and then knocked up Maggie before deciding to marry her. Their daughter Ella got pregnant by a traveling salesman but she wouldn't tell anyone who it was but if there was anybody who understood, it was her dad, Alonzo! He built her a house and was supportive until she married another. We're now trying to figure out who the traveling salesman is through DNA. Cemeteries, newspapers and old relatives in nursing homes are awesome sources of information!
Nope. Didn't see that one coming. 😂
That's why my MOM wouldn't. Eat squirrels 🐿️ she said it looks like cat 🐈 .
Simeon may have been the one to choose the name Lydia for his daughter. It may have been meant as an insult to Elizabeth for refusing to eat cat, whereas his first wife did eat it.
FamilySearch lists Simeon Palmer as having 6 children. Lydia Dennis and Elizabeth Mortimer were his two wives maiden names. Who the children belonged to respectively is not clear. None of the children had the name Elizabeth or Lydia that were female..
I'm not familiar with family search, but can verify that there are people listed in other genealogy and ancestry websites that aren't in the slightest way related to me. Like, I met all of my grandparents' siblings except for the one who was KIA in WWII, but some random stranger is listed among them, and I can't get them removed. And then there are the missing relatives, with whom I enjoyed holiday meals and summer family picnics at the beach, but do not exist in those websites, even though they've been dead for decades. Those websites can be good resources, but only in the beginning stages of a family search. After that you to verify on the ground.
@@kimfleury my experience is exactly the opposite with ancestry... i was adopted and did the ancestry dna test.... found two people directly related to my birth mother and a LOT of relatives that must be relatives because you can trace the dna back to those two people. If there is a random person here or there that the dna says you're related to, someone cheated and had a kid with someone not known to the family is usually the case... or someone got pregnant and gave the child up..... than random "stranger" might actually be related to you by dna...
OHMYGOD YOU SAID LITTLE COMPTON!! Whoop whoop!!
What a crazy story. Now I'm imagining herds of cats (cat-tle?) running around pastures in the Midwest 🤣
Keep in mind that women often didn't have a choice who to marry. Women were chattel, belonged to fathers/brothers until married off by her male relatives. Family politics, money and holdings played a big part in this. It could be that this woman was slated to marry Simeon and then a better offer came in from the other family. Perhaps it was too late for her family to arrange another marriage for her.
Hm, this new cat diet sounds pretty good to me. We should get some Hollywood types on board, maybe some Tiktok influencers to help spread it among the hip digital youth. The Cat Chow Challenge, it'll be called, where you have to eat nothing but feline steak for a full month. Health benefits include violent shuddering, explosive clothing, and obscene kneecap mutations.
Why are the buried side by side is an interesting question.
I want my Tombstone to Say...
"I just needed a Nap" 😂
Thanks for the video and story just found your channel looking forward to the next video ❤
I was just mentioning the other evening, asking why so many cats go Missing in this neighborhood. Since 2012, I have fed the feral neutered and spayed cats, but continuously they will be around for a while and then suddenly disappear off of the planet...dozens of them! I still remember all of them, and I wonder where they went!
Do folks still practice this sick Ritual/Religion?
Simeon was nuts.
The first thing that popped into my head was that one was the wife, and the other was his mistress.
My exhusband tried to get me to eat roadkill at times and I’d tell him absolutely not!
Even when ( after we were divorced) I took my adult sons to visit their dad in a senior citizen center, he was complaining because the kitchen staff refused to let him pick up roadkill and cook it himself. This from a man who has had several mini strokes and he didn’t have full use of one. In later years after he was moved back to Texas he was diagnosed with two types of dementia so that might have had something to do with it.
He liked sushi but I can’t stand it or lobster either.
Great story. Thanks for sharing with us. ❤.... I wouldn't eat cat meat either. 😨
Good one !
Given my avatar, I'm horrified...yet simultaneous unable to get "Cat's In The Kettle" by Weird Al Yankovic out of my head!
Was it worth it???
Probably..
Meaow
First thoughts were that either Elizabeth died young before they could be married and had been Simone's first love or true love, or his family had said no to the marriage so he later ended up with Lydia.
But it sounds more like Simone was not satisfied with Elizabeth's idea of being a wife and/or it's that case of the dead first wife being angelified and no one can ever measure up.
Then you get to the cat's as food part. And...wait...what?
Now I feel bad for Lydia. And for Elizabeth, but at least she got out and lived her life. I thought her headstone was from a broken heart from a lost love or such. Nah, just a dude who didn't know to get out of the sun and was a bit cuckoo-bananas. But poor Lydia didn't seem to have much choice.
Lydia was just a gold digger slay girl 😂💅
this is such a weird story ..
I never saw that conflict coming.
That's so absurd, I'm not sure if it must be a legend as it's too absurd to be true, or if it must be true as it's too absurd for a legend.
Was lydia the woman edgar Allen poe wrote about i his poem?
It was cat food, not cat itself. I read the newspaper clip.
Back then cat food would have been food that humans wouldn’t eat like old spoiled meat . Simeon might have been stingy with food .
I can think of one more interpretation. One that the ladies had no part in. Perhaps Lydia was married to Simeon but He wished he had married Elizabeth. In that case, poor Lydia, if she knew,
How did they end up buried side by side?
Great video
I had a Chinese roommate in college. My Dad, being my Dad, quizzed her on all the animals she had eaten. Dog, of course, turtle oh yeah, elephant, interestly enough yup. You name it she tried it. She said everything was good, except cat. Cat apparently doesn't taste good.
Straight outta Lil’Compton….😾
They lived and died as English citizens under English rule. Isn't that wild to think of?
Frankly, there would have been 2 mysterious deaths (Billings and Simeon) if they "fatted up cats" for butchery anywhere near me. And likely only their bones would be found. Cats have to eat, too.
Honestly, hearing about his reason? I'm over here. Playing stardew Valley and I was so stunned. I just died from a green slime in year 5. Wtf
“Elizabeth, who should have been the wife of Elizabeth Palmer.” ?
That's wild!
Being a vegetarian this is particularly nauseating
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Is that an actual graveyard, or just a field for headstones?
First thing I thought was it was a guy who was bent someone turned him down and had the money to try to shake the women who didn’t want him forever.
The jokes just write themselves.
Horrible man he was. I'd move away from him too
I was assuming she cheated or something but nah man, Justice for Elizabeth.
I petition a new epitaph “I left my husband because he wanted me
To eat domestic cat meat”
He possibly married the woman his parents approved of rather than the woman he loved.
Thanks for the video! You kinda' remind me of the singer from a band called Spacehog. If you read this, check out "In the meantime" and tell me what you think.
I wonder who put up Simeon’s stone and if they had anything to say about him.