AMAZON Basics Motor Oil - What's In it?
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- Опубліковано 8 лют 2023
- Ordering stuff from Amazon.com is a normal part of life anymore, but motor oil from Amazon???
Certified Lubrication Specialist Lake Speed Jr reviews the results from Amazon Basics 0W-40 Synthetic Motor Oil. The results are quite surprising!
Amazon Basics oil is available at amzn.to/3GsVJja
Who is the @themotoroilgeek ? I'm a Society of Tribologists and Lubrication Engineers Certified Lubrication Specialist and Oil Monitoring Analyst (I've maintained both of those for over a decade). I also worked for Joe Gibbs Racing for 12 years as their lubricant specialist. During that time, we worked with Wix Filters (one of our sponsors) to test and develop filters for our race engines. We also worked with Lubrizol and Chevron-Phillips Chemical to test and develop oils for our race cars. Following that, I was the head of R&D for Driven Racing Oil. During that time, I formulated and tested over 50 products. We also worked with Cummins, Comp Cams, Oak Ridge National Labs and General Motors on various R&D products. Those efforts are recorded in peer reviewed white papers published by SAE International and ACS Sustainable Chemistry journals.
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Uh, finally an awesome YT channel about oils. I follow you from Europe. Amazon oils are made by Warren Distribution blenders and they should not be bad at all, and on our side it is the British Comma Oil. I'm in Central Europe, but I can tell you that we also rarely use 0w40 viscosity and that ACEA A3/B4 is outdated. For us, the standards related to MidSaps and LowSaps oils are important, and API is only the beginning, because the oils for our vehicles must also have additional factory approval, for a long time the strongest standard was VW 504/507, which is 'earned' on very difficult tests, and now it's Vw 508/509 and it exceeds all API and Ilsac GF standards in terms of strength. My situation is even more complicated because I drive a bifuel converted car to LPG (propane in yours, it seems to me) and I use SAE 5W40 with Approval vw 502/505.01 and ACEA C3, midSaps. Everything is complicated in Europe😅 (have also for eg PSA or MB mercedes approval etc). Greetings from O&G production engineer and tribologist. I watch every video, excellent,keep posting, respect for your work👍
Thanks!
As a mechanic based in western europe, i watch a lot of oil video's on youtube. And what i find is that in the usa they have most grades in mineral and synthetic. Where here in the netherlands, it starts at 10w40 almost always being semi synthetic and up from there its verry hard to find a non fully synthetic. I once found 5w30 valvoline at action that didnt say anything on the bottle. But other than that all 5w30s are synthetic here. And i also found that most my customers Just always want the right oil in ther cars. Big difference than the usa where it seems you bring your branc New car to a lube shop and they happy put a random mineral oil in it. If someone asks that of me i Will send them away.
@@franklinvanproosdijyou’re a bit misinformed about what happens in the US. Most new cars go to the dealer for the recommended oil. Only the cheapskates who don’t care about their used cars to to the quick lube places. Every one else goes to Indy mechanics or changes it themselves. The only cars that get conventional oil are the ones that call for it. People mostly use good brands like Mobil 1, Castrol, Pennzoil, etc. Some even use Liqui Moly, Motul, etc which are much more expensive here because they are imported.
@@seashackf1I used to work at two quick lubes way back when. I was in school and I can tell you never under any circumstances take your car to one. Not so much because of the oil but because of the countless times I saw cars being started with no oil in them. At the one the employees would put the cheap stuff in when people paid for the good stuff so they could set it aside and take it home for themselves.
WHAT OIL SPECIFICALLY DO YOU RECOMMEND FOR THE DIRECT INJECTED ONLY FA24F SUBARU TURBO ENGINE? IVE BEEN USING MOTUL 8100 EFE 5W30 BUT YOUR SAYING THATS NOW OUTDATED AND IM WONDERING WHAT OTHER PRODUCTS I CAN USE !!?? IVE DONE A DEEP DIVE ON OILS BUT WISHING SUBARU WOULD HAVE ADDED PORT INJECTION TO THIS ENGINE TO COMBAT CARBON BUILD UP. CHEERS
I worked as an engineer with lubrication at the beginning of my career 40 years ago, but never returned to the field. Enjoyed watching my first couple of videos and glad to subscribe.
Never had a engine go south.. the main thing is to change it every 3 k miles. Never had problem mixing oils, or any particular brand. 66 years old now.
Technology has changed; oils have changed, and engines have changed. Old school tribal knowledge doesn't necessarily apply anymore.
@@reubenmorris487 True in many ways.
UNTRUE in a few ways too.
Owner of a somewhat "neglected" 2006 Holden VZ, burning 2 quarts oil per 1,000 miles (and blowing smoke), I gave it a couple of KEROSENE engine flushes and know for a fact it's stopped blowing exhaust smoke, and appears (thus far) to have at least substantially reduced oil consumption (yet to do a full, 1,000 miles to confirm). Old school tribal knowledge has negated (or at least temporarily delayed) the technological approach of pay $8k for a complete engine rebuild :)
@OhSoddit prob had stuck rings due to carbon buildup and the kerosene broke it free.
Do the COSTCO oil next!
I think another channel did a test, Walmart Supertech, Costco & Amazon all same stuff. Good oil for the price
@@chrisb9478 Costco oil is Warren also
Walmart super tech Amazon basics, and Kirkland oil are all made by the same company. it’s the same product down to the last drop.
And Sam's club
@@Justacogg The car makers have pushed the standards for motor oils very high. If an oil meets the current certification, then it is a very good quality oil. Not all oil are created equal, but all currently certified motor oils are very good quality. I am not brand loyal to any certain oil any longer, I simply shop for good deals on certified oils.
Been running Warren oils for decades and full synth versions for over a decade with Wix regular/Napa Gold filters till about 6-6500. Blackstone reports are great..
The fact that you use Blackstone oil Analysis is proof that you prefer science fact over marketing. I applaud you sir.
Since GDI turbo engines are more common now and many are using cheap mineral and semi synthetics, i would greatly appreciate if you can do a clip on the suitability of full synthetics for such engines . Pretty pls.😄
I appreciate the technical info presented. Any summary/table of the oils analyzed so far? Also curious Re: Redline. Lots of BMW S63TU fans like to run the 5W-40 - curious your thoughts on the applicability?
Another awesome video. The Amazon Basics is a common engine oil people use.
Thank you!
Any great "full" synthetic motor oil is good. I use Liqui Moly specific viscosity oils in my 2023 Lexus hybrid and 2019 Volvo. No issues and it's just a matter of me and the two specific vehicle mechanics agreeing on using Liqui Moly and OEM oil filters for those vehicles. The choice is yours and remember to change your oil & filter every 5,000 miles or six-months, whichever comes first. Why, because like Scotty Kilmer and The Car Care Nut (YT) say, oil & filters are cheap, engines are expensive. 🤔
Oil is cheap compared to engines!
Touching on the LSPI issue, it should be noted that the ACEA have two categories specifically for such engines; A7/B7 (mid-HTHS, high-SAPS) and C6 (low-HTHS, mid-SAPS). A3/B4 is typically used in older engines without three-way catalysts and/or DPF/GPF in Europe which require a high-HTHS, high-SAPS oil, and these engines are typically of older designs at least 10-15 years old here in Europe. Virtually all of these engines are also port injection (although A3/B4, unlike the now obsolete A3/B3, is also designed for direct injection diesel engines), because they are of older design, and therefore LSPI is not a concern for these engines.
love these...keep them coming.....
Thanks!
Another great video!
Thanks!
Wish you give a little more opinion on the oils and mention what application the aforementioned should be used in
My built motor mazdaspeed6 has only ever ran supertech walmart 5w-30 and amazonbasics 5w-30 full synthetic for both with 3k or sooner OCIs. Car has catch cans so i believe that helps keep the engine cleaner. Some day id like to port inject into the intake and have a really clean burner.
Methanol injection
The EU classning of ACEA/C1 is the equivalent of the API/SP and ILSAC/GF-6A Oils. The ACEA/C1 is a LOW SAPS Oil made for High Performance Engins with Direct Injection Systems and longer oil service intervals. This is too meet the Strickt European Emissions Controls.
Do a video on walmart supertech oil please!
Works great in my push mower.
Great info! What oil do you recommend for my 50k mile 2013 X5 Xdrive35i? Gasoline engine.... As per manufacture it should use A3 / B4 oil.
Have you thought about the Costco Kirkland oil?
It’s pretty much the same oil
I'd love to hear his opinion of the HPL oil lineup.
Would like to see what you think of costco's kirkland brand oil, would assume close to this Amazon oil?
Can you take a good look at the Costco 5w30 and possibly 0w20 oils? I expect similar to the Amazon basics oil but it is API SP.
Hello lake. Excellent channel you have here!! I’m hoping to see it grow and be enjoyable for you. What would you recommend for the skyactive line of engines ? GDI with a high compression 13:1
Thank you for the kind words. For the skyactive engine, go with an API SP rated synthetic of the appropriate viscosity (per the owners manual), and then determine the proper oil change interval via used oil analysis.
Lake, really appreciate and enjoy your channel. I would like to see some Motorcycle oil testing, if you ever have the desire .
It is on the way soon.
@@themotoroilgeek what would be a good full synthetic oil to run in a 94 Chevy s10 4.3 v6 TBI motor?
@@jasonhavers5961Pennzoil ultra synthetic
Yes, please!
Can you test the Kirkland brand 0w20 oil? I'm Curious what is in it
Can you please review Motul's 8100 X-cess 5W40? Thank you!
Any plans on making a video of Idemitsu full synthetic oil?
Would love to see an analysis of Walmart Supertech synthetic oil.
From what I've read online Amazon Basics Full Synthetic and Walmart Supertech Full Synthetic are the same oil from Warren oil. Warren makes a lot of house branded engine oils.
@@LionWithTheLambI’m thinking also that the Costco Kirkland brand oil also falls into the Warren category.
It does.
Hey Lake do you have a link or website we can look at. I have a classic car with a flat tappet cam. I was running Valvoline 20w-50 vr1 but I saw it has a high detergent package. Last oil change I am running 15w-40 Shell T4 we had in the pump at work with a bottle Lucas Zinc/zddp package. I’m wanting to run a 10w-30 to hopefully pick up a pinch of fuel mileage ( ha ha yea right)
Project farm did a video where this oil beat a very high quality membrane oil with his tests.. please test synthetic diesel oils to see which is best!
Thank you!
I’d like to see a report on Toyota oil. I have heat for years it’s made by Mobile but to a different formula.
Hello, could you do an analysis on Pennzoil platinum Euro LX 0w30, wich carries most euro approvals, potentialy great for your Porsche ?
Wish you'd do one about Costco. Scottie says its good
Great suggestion!
What areas are you actually measuring on your vehicle in order to notice a difference?
Really like this guy's channel, very interesting! What's the best oil (make up wise) for the 2018 Kia Optima 2.4 l it's got 80K for miles? Runs good so far, but want to try and keep it that way..
It's a direct injection GDI
It would be interesting to learn if Costco oil is as good as the best brand out there.
I like to know if calcium below 1500 ppm is also recommended for diesel direct injection engine?
wow....actually looks real decent !! better than Mobil 1 haha
I would love to see your analysis of Valvoline clean and restore oil.
Great suggestion!
I have a 2010 Audi S4 with DI. What oil would you recommend?
Have you discussed MoS2 moly additives? If not, please do.
Thanks for the idea
I would be curious about Walmart supertech
You rated 0w40? How about the much more common 0w20?
Any chance you'd be willing to buy a new sample and test again? I'm curious if Amazon always buys from the same supplier and if there is a chance that the oil you bought then might be different from the oil you'd get now. As I stated, I'm just curious about how often the "store brands" change suppliers and if different suppliers mean different oil quality down the line. Thanks!
I doubt they shop around the production very often. Any changes would likely be updates for new API specs.
Thank you for your lone crusade to educate us on motor oil. My car manual recommends only 5w30 . Is it ok to use 0w30 instead, in a tropical country with consistently warm weather.
Thanks! Yes, you can use 0W-30 in place of 5W-30
Would U mind please to clarify the right viscosity of fully synthitic oils that can I used if temperature reach 50c in the summer and 10c in the winter .by the way,I use 10W-40 but and my friend use 0W-50 and both Hilux desil toyota 2020 are fine .He thinks he is right and so am I, so what do you advise us?
0w50 waste of money and too thick for a 2020 Hilux in my opinion.
I recommend standard 5w40 or 10w40 oil for your climate.
Mr. Speed Jr., any idea when you can analyze the Motul 8100 X-Cess Gen2 5W-40 oil?
I run this oil in my AMG Mercedes and understand that many other people run it in their European vehicles as well.
I don't trust any of the Blackstone analysis results on ANY motor oil.
Thank you!
We will get to that one. I know I need to do it.
Same here. I’m curious about this formulation as well and use it in my 997.
What's up with Blackstone to cause you to not trust their reports?
@@chestrockwell8328 because they are known to be off. Use Polaris labs. Much more accurate.
@@jwatt95 Could you elaborate a little? I have also posted on a different video of Lake's about his own testing of the exact same virgin oil within the same month showing different results, without reply. Perhaps this oil analysis game is a bit of a gimmick??
Can you do a discussion about the new 0W16 and 0W20 oils? Toyota has a 0W16 made by Mobil, with 10x the level of moly in it. Interestingly, the Mobil equivalent off the shelf does not have this much moly. I think their 0W20 is the same way. Nice that they do that, but I still don't trust this trend to lighter oils. I think they want to have engines breaking down sooner.
Interesting idea! I might do that. My wife’s Toyota van uses 0W-20.
@@themotoroilgeek Also, some people have noted that replacing the oil with 0w30 (such as Mobil ESP) results in much quieter operation and an increase in fuel economy. I would be curious to see some testing on this, though I do not have one of these vehicles.
@@tonysteele3805 that is interesting
Any news on when Warren will start selling Amazon Kirkland or Supertech 5w40 Synth for diesels? I've been running their Lubrigard I think it's called.
I’m not sure about that.
Warren Distrabution has been taken over by Mobil. You´l have to ask them.
Sounds like great oil for a lawn mower or rusty hinges.
Ha ha, put in your MAGA car and smoke it Donald.
Lake, what oil would be a good to similar oil to what my 04 corvette used from GM? It came with Mobil 1 i understand but they have reformulated it i am sure. Its hard to choose an oil for an older car when the new formulations are sold as the same oil as what the car spec'd...
Great question. The Mobil 0W-40 supercar oil and Driven DI40 are really great oils for high performance engines like yours.
@@themotoroilgeek Compare the M1 0w40 Supercar to the M1 5w50 DexosR spec'ed oil for the Z06 Flat plane crank. Also what happened with Rotella T6 5w40 losing the SN cert? Is Shell just pushing everyone to Rotella Gas Truck in the red bottle/Pennz Platinum? Their NOA looks almost identical from Blackstone.
You think you have problems, try finding the right oil for a 58 cadillac and 68 Mustang!! 😊
I'm assuming not all amazon basics oil is the same. Been using 0w-20 dex05 in 2017 5.3 silverado since after the first two free oil changes. I did a couple blackstone analyses. At 40,518m on truck 6,976 miles on oil = 1222 calcium. At 47,590m on truck 7,072m on oil = 1304 calcium. Phosphorus, zinc, moly, boron are extremely close to universal averages too. I haven't tested since and I have 82k miles on it. Watching these videos making rethink or if I should change. Trying to make this thing truck last a long time.
That’s because this is a Euro spec version. I have also been using this oil but in 5w-30 and these numbers don’t match my analysis numbers.
I've never really understood what the differences between European spec oils and others, for a given viscosity (e/g: 5w:30). Would it be beneficial to run "Euro oil" in my Japanese car?
Euro spec oils must work for both gasoline and diesel engines.
Looks like a pretty typical 0W40 formulation from back in the day around 2005-2010. I bet it has VW 50200, MB 229.5, Porsche A40 and BMW Longlife 04 specs.
With that much Calcium, it should be a good cleaner and naturally aspirated GDI engines should be fine with it since they don't suffer from LSPI. Turbocharged engines not so much, though.
This oil would be a perfect choice for a Porsche 911 from the 964, 993 or 996 family as well as older Mercedes like the W124 gasoline models. Or BMW up to the E46.
Can we get a Autozone/Walmart speical and find the best oils they offer.
Break them into catogories of engines you should use them on. + Tutorial on how to use lucas oil correctly for us broke loosers with knocking piles of crap
I ran mobile one synthetic for 2 years in my amc 401, never a problem, then bought amazon basics equivalent synthetic, within 3 weeks my distributor gear was destroyed, or 2006 xterra also did not perform well using this oil, now I only run the highest psi rated synthetic oil and have no troubles.
Phosphorus is slippery stuff!
Would this Oil be Wet clutch safe with no friction modifiers?
Yes, non-friction modified oils are safe for wet clutch applications.
@@themotoroilgeek Thanks
👍🏻
What do you think about AMSOIL Signature series?
Great oil. Doesn't get any better really.
Hello! What do you think about the Red Line Oils?
They work best in MAGA cars.
it would have been good to have a conclusion at the end, EG: whats other oils is it very similar too and what are the price differances?
Great video, please do AMSOIL 5w-40 MS/FS and Porsche Classic 5w-50 ! THANK YOU SO MUCH LOVE THE CONTENT IT"S ALL VERY GOOD KEEP IT UP
YOU DON'T HAVE TO SHOUT.
Hey Lake, I have a 355 sbc with a 625 cfm carb on it. 10 to 1 on the compression 75 cc double hump heads and a comp cam. I can't seem to cool it down runs up to 220 fast. It is only at 2 psi of fuel pressure. Very lean changing fuel pump and 10w30 in it what can I do oil wise to help cool it down? 93 Sonoma by the way 308 gear mini spool 2 12 inch fans 3 core 84 C4 vette radiator. It run hot and is lean and am I running the right oil for this setup big fan by the way bud.
Ray, thanks for the question and the comment. What size piston rings are in the engine?
Sir it is 4.30 bore and wisco piston I don't remember what the size it is gapped for spray eagle crank and rods this is my toy and it is not milkshacking at all fans jump on at 180
@@Raysandfamily I can't say. The end gap for spray is not helping.
Thank you sir I watched your dad race alot thank you for the help Lake I'll be watch and commenting on ever video from here on out sir
Different oils won't change your coolant temp by any appreciable amount. Fuel pressure to a carb has no effect on the mixture as long as it's high enough to keep the bowls full and low enough to not overwhelm the needles.
So can I put it in a first Gen Tacoma?
We are not here to recommend specific brands. We provide information so consumers can make educated decisions.
Amazon Basics Full Synthetic 5w30 and 0w20 are both API SP. Amazon Basics 0w40 full synthetic european formula oil isn't even available in the States.
A great budget oil with the ability to lighten the crankshaft bearings and cams and cylinder walls. Oh, the pistons as well. keep the extra money in your pocket and buy this Warren product and keep lightning the metals in your engine as well. Lol.
Same company that makes Kirkland and Supertech oil
Lake Speed Jr., how on Earth does an intake valve get heavy deposits on a direct injection gasoline engine 🤔? Only filtered air ever comes into contact with it.
PCV system vents to the intake, so crankcase oil vapors make their way into the manifold.
@@themotoroilgeek Why is it more of a problem on direct injection engines ?
@@stevenroche9874because there is no fuel to wash the valve clean
@@themotoroilgeek I used to work in engine rebuilding. I saw lots of intake valves with heavy deposits with fuel "washing" taking place.
@@stevenroche9874that’s because the owners used cheap gas. Better quality fuels with proper detergents keep the intake valves cleaner.
Amazon makes an oil for direct injection?
I’m sure they have an API SP formula oil (for Direct Injection).
@@themotoroilgeek why is this post called amazon basics?
@@Surrealblues because that is the name of the oil.
I didn't know you could buy oil without moly or boron.
There are lots of oils without either of those additives.
@@themotoroilgeek Honestly had no idea. I'm running pennzoil ultra plat 0w40 with a moly additive in my hemi. It seems to help with valve train noise. I ran the regular amazon stuff in my s10 for about 100 miles. Engine seemed louder then it was with 3000 mile old castrol edge.
Why doesn't VW have lspi issues? ? ? ?
LSPI can happen to any DI engine. The tendency and severity is due primarily to the injector location. Also, the higher ZDDP levels help reduce LSPI tendency.
@@themotoroilgeek 👍
oh they do my friend
EA888 loves to blow out ringlands because of LSPI.
BMW has LSPI too 😢
Are European grade oils better than American oils? Is there any problem using European grade oils in American vehicles?
Doubt there would be a problem. Pennzoil ultra synthetic is a great oil and inexpensive. Run that.
Do 10w-30 pleeeease :-)
We have a 5W-30 video coming soon…
@@themotoroilgeek sweet! Thank you!
all facts no conclusions. thanks but leaves my with little to go on.
But is it any good then? 🤔
It meets the spec, so it provides at least the minimum level of protection.
You maybe able to get away with a ten thousand mile oil change for normal use. Normal use is freeway use. Most of us fall under the severe driving conditions. City driving, mountain climbing, long idle. I change my oil more often under those conditions.
Do Kirkland oil now.
Great suggestion
Not everyone has a direct injection
Walmart Oil? I know a ton of guys use it
Direct injection gasoline engine *
I realize I'm a year late to this video, but what did I just watch? I don't understand all the techno babble. The video didn't even answer the question "Is it any good?" At least not in plain English.
F Amazon 😂
So.basically its garbage and should be avoided.
I think you read the Bible too literally. Vote Republican so you don’t have to think. And, you won’t need to vote again either. Oh, if watching this left you lost, don’t worry. We can all understand why
American brands, They can't compare the quality with the real german lubricant brands.
Sorry, but I disagree with that statement. There is nothing special about any brand or any specific country of origin. The chemistry of the oil being matched to the needs of the application is what really makes a difference. Brands are marketing...
Hard no on that statement.
Source: I live here.
Yes we tend to get more TBN, more detergents and more ZDDP generallly I mean for example yeah 1200ppm ZDDP and 3500 calcium is normal here that's special elsewhere.
Those higher numbers are because of the ACEA and car manufacturers spec oils going by ridiculous OCIs nobody should live by.
But we don't house RedLine oil and they just make amazing oils and Amsoils premium formulas are also just great.
The American - Eu and International oil ratings are pretty much the same. All three work together so as to hold a basic standard. The EU rating is a bit more demanding due to the strick emissions control. The API/SAE is pretty much the standard for all vehicles around the world.
Do we everyday guys actually care whats in the oil ? No. What we do care is how this oil compared to others, as always, we are not getting that from your videos. Sorry.
"European spec"? Why is this a thing and why does it matter at all? Who cares?
Младший специалист - но не сделал никакого вывода. Зачем вообще сделан этот ролик - для самопиара?