Jessica Viana Tried the Friends Diet from the 90s (This is PROBLEMATIC AF!)
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what's bananas is that the characters on the show always ate "normally", and ate pizza and muffins in the coffee shop etc. all the time. Which makes us feel ever worse because it's like they're staying that skinny AND eating a bunch, when really they were practically starving themselves. stupid Hollywood.
Yes!!! This was actually what I was doing my masters work on. The illusion of the “cool girl” that eats everything but looks like she doesn’t
Omg watching friends back in the day I ALWAYS thought about this but thought I was the only one
I don't know why, but "stupid Hollywood" made me laugh. The people behind this really are asses, whether they realize it or not. They hide behind the argument that movies/TV series are fantasies, but acted like Friends was down-to-earth when it wasn't. (Find me an NYC apartment like Monica's while being a student)
Imo the worst show like that was Gilmore Girls. They *talked* about all the food they ate all the time but never really showed them eating. And made their love of food but still being thin a character trait. Annoying
Abbey can we get a link to your thesis?
the fact that courtney cox was having trouble with conceiving at least in part because the low bodyweight the show pressured her into being at and THEN on top of that they had a plotline for monica where she has trouble conceiving just makes me wanna start crying for the poor woman.
That’s horrible. I swear big networks only care about money
I believe Courtney actually suggested the trouble conceiving to bring awareness. But I am sure it was not handled as well as it should of been, I can’t imagine the pressure she was under
I remember in an interview that she also had to work a day or at least a very short time after a miscarriage. She also expressed on later shows she felt the pressure to look a certain way to feel younger and thinner. Sad reality all around, but it was the 90's/early aughts.
I understand. It is upsetting to watch
Totally so sad
The thing that gets me is that the Friends women were all portrayed on the show as people who ate normally and enjoyed life to the full. They gave the impression that everyone could have their slender bodies without any form of restriction. No wonder female fans of the show wondered why that lifestyle didn’t work for them.
AND they each exercised maybe once in ten years
So true!
First of all Rachel in the show jogs in the morning and Monica is a chef that lost a lot of weight buy exercising and eating homemade healthy meals
@@diyashinh and this diet is not made up of healthy meals and simply jogging in the morning so what is your point
I mean, I know some women with fast metabolism who can actually eat "junk food" and stay thin, but they aren't as ubiquitous as in TV shows, where every woman seems like that.
I just realized that we hear actresses being divas and yell at people, this may be the reason. They are starved and overworking… that’s literally just an irritated bomb waiting to go off…
So true
At that point, the producers are just asking for the rage
Id be pissed off all the time.
Matthew Perry struggled with some addiction issues during the run of the show. Apparently his rather dramatic weight loss was concerning to his coworkers and many fans. And of course the gossip chanels and magazines were all over this. Interestingly it was not considered alarming for the 3 female leads to be just as thin.
Oh wow, that is so concerning!
As a historian I would find it incredibly interesting for you to go back to diets from the 1890s to 1950s or so to see how inadequate they were and how they shaped our current diet culture. Ones like the Salisbury diet or Fletcherism would be really interesting as well as looking at diets starting in the 1920s that looked more on weight loss than digestion and how the invention of calories as a unit of measure impacted our eating habits! There’s a really interesting focus on digestion in Victorian and Edwardian weight loss diets that in many ways I think is replicated today and so would be fascinating to look at!
I’ll have a look into that, thank you for the suggestion!
Second this idea! I think it would be really interesting, and it would show us the ways that diet culture has (and hasn’t) changed over the years.
The BBC used to do a series with Sue Perkins and Giles Corin where they went back in time to try meals they focused on a combination of fad diets and everyday foods. I think it's called supersizers eat... And then whatever time period. There are definitely a few episodes on UA-cam.
@@SunnyMorningPancakes I freaking love that show
@@TheQueerTailor I did realise after I'd recommended it that you'd probably already seen it, but you never know.
It is a great show. 🙂
Courtney Cox says said in recent interviews that she doesn't remember being on set or filming. She reports having a bad memory but it makes you think still, with under eating and long work hours, she must of been in a hyper state at all times.
Oh wow 😢
That is weird 😳
Did you actually listen to that interview though? She remembers being on Friends. She just doesn't remember every episode or every single thing. Undereating and overworking adds to it I'm sure, but it's normal not to remember every freaking day of her life. She is not a fan of the show who watched it 100x and memorized all lines but grinded through the set working a million hours a day, it was a job for her....
Our brains are made of mostly fat, so having such a low body weight probably effects memory among other things.
The Atkins diet put me in a hospital when I was 16 thanks to my mum forcing me to diet since I was 12, including taking me to a 'dietitian' who straight up told me I will never be happy without a flat tummy and that I've eaten enough food for the rest of my life and don't deserve it anymore. I'm 28 and still fighting the trauma. Wtf were people thinking in the 90s and 00s.
I’m so sorry for your experience. I hope you’re doing alright now ❤️
Sorry if this sounds ignorant but what us the Atkins diet?
@@howard3985 it's basically a variant of keto/low carb diet
My mom was all about Atkins too. She still is. The difference in my experience, though, is that she would practically force junk food on me. She never encouraged me to exercise, but she went for walks every day. She would get all the unhealthy snacks for me and tell me I was healthy as long as I had a couple carrots or celery or a banana. She would happily suggest getting me taco bell (like 1-2 items) to eat as a snack. So excessive sodium and calories for a snack on top of three full meals and other snacks. She’d make salads for herself, but Mac and cheese for me. The only comment she ever made about me needed to lose weight was “if you just lost like 5 pounds, you’d look 🤌” and that was it. She didn’t tell me how to be healthier. I remember she took me to in n out right after that and got me a burger, cheese fries, and a milkshake. She ate a lettuce wrapped burger.
When I was able to start buying my own food and go for walks on my own, I lost a lot of weight. She HATED it. Family members would compliment me on the weight loss and she would roll her eyes. If she couldn’t find a way to take credit for it, she got mad that I was getting positive attention for my appearance.
If she noticed I bought a lot of fruits and veggies, she’d buy junk food and tell me I had to eat it before it went bad. She’d only eat it if she was drunk. She’d offer to go out to eat at places that didn’t have many nutritious options.
She was nicer to me before I lost the weight. When I was thinner, she acted like she was jealous and I was competition for her and she was so much meaner to me. I gained weight back and she suddenly was a little nicer to me. She still buys junk food and gets mad if I don’t eat it, but I’m standing my ground. I’ll eat a cookie if I want to, but not because you’re forcing me to
Sorry for the novel lol. Guess I needed to rant
@@kierasaurusfrost that's okay it's better to express yourself than let it escalate. (Sorry for the late reply) and i'm sorry that your mum subjected you to that I find dieting brings out a competitive side to some people. Just remember that it's not a flaw in you, it's simply their unresolved insecurities. Though her insecurities are still no excuse to attempt to sabotage you. I hope you're doing better now though and have a nice day 😄
OMG is this real life 😭 thank you so much Abbey for reacting to my video and complementing it with such good info! You’ve been an inspiration for me to start studying Nutrition in the past two years 🙏🏻💖
Thanks for doing this deep dive! I am glad you have banoffee pie on stand by to save you! ❤️ it is the best pie!
Have you analyzed the eating habits of the Gilmore Girls? Talk about unrealistic body standards. They reinforce the trope of men wanting slim women who eat burgers, fries and pizza on the reg. You. Can't. Have. Both.
Yes this was what my graduate work was on so I v familiar
@Hazel Allison Or "where do you put it all?", after eating a decent meal or when I was giving up sugar for lent, a tradition I do every year, I get the response "There's nothing of you, you don't need to do that!", but the reason behind me doing that is more spritual, tackling vice (I am a definite sweet tooth!).
You're so right, you can't win as a female
@@AbbeysKitchen Could you do a video on your research?
Jessica Viana also made a video about Gilmore girls eating habits
Ofc ofc. Been there done that. Even developed bulimia which caused my heart failure.
Am I the only 40 yr old suddenly freaked out realizing we all were trying to look like unhealthy drug addicts in the 90s?
Jennifer is the picture of health and wholesomeness IMO
@@dianebaum4682 i was referring more to the "heroin chic" look that we were fed by the media back then. Jennifer looked too thin back then but since then I think she has looked amazing and healthy
@@dianebaum4682 i think what she’s referring to is the “Heroine Chic” body look, as it was called. i think it was called that because being that thin and boney leaves you looking and feeling quite frail, much like is often the case with those who struggle with heroine addictions.
😫😫
Some still do unfortunately
I remember coming back from University and having my mom praise me for being skinny. My friends had just staged an ED intervention for me the day before. 🤦♀️ The 90s was horrible.
This video is so important for me as someone who had an ED because it remind me that they too were not naturally that skinny and probably no one is. It's really easy for me to start watching the show and feeling like I'm way too big and should be more "Petit" like them. It's not healthy, I shouldn't be aiming for it.
I completely understand. I hope this review is helpful!
My take away is this: remembering how I felt back then seeing them on screen and thinking that the way they looked was so "effortless" and having that SHAM exposed makes me feel so much better!
1200 cals is not nearly enough
Absolutely!
Yes, absolutely! I remember as a kid and teen feeling guilty and wrong for gaining weight when I ate like characters on screen. Like, to be a real girl I should be able to eat nothing but pizza and never gain weight.
I don't understand the 1200 calories. That's the highly restrictive caloric intake that already slender Mila Kunis used to lose 20 lbs for her role in Black Swan. It's a fairly extreme diet used to lose weight and not meant to be maintained long term. Like that's well below maintenance, even for a very thin person, especially when you're young, active, work full-time, and exercise regularly. 😑
@@theprousteffect9717 I worked for LA weightloss and they had me at 1200 calories a day , that was thr beginning of the eating disorder I got, the owner smacked tic tacs out of my hand as they were not on "program".
Side rant: as much as friends was so cute and nostalgic, there are so many problematic themes here. With the diets that were extraordinarily restrictive and unhealthy and massive amounts of exercise, I’m sure that it caused fertility issues with Jen and Courtney. They were basically starved for years while simultaneously being hailed as body goals. In addition to the “fat girl turned skinny and now hot” trope and crippling OCD of Monica that was played off as quirky, Ross’s deep-rooted insecurity and jealousy problems that were viewed as funny, cheating issues, unexpected pregnancies that were romanticized, and the fact that Matthew Perry was completely addicted to drugs during season 3 and no one helped him at all. It’s not the “goals” that everyone thinks it was.
So true!
No, but in those days we actually used jokes about serious issues as a kind of therapy. The fat to slim story was completely exaggerated exactly because of that. We understood that it was twisted and it was obviosly never meant to teach viewers that this is how it should be. We took a step back and laughed at the absurd parts of what usually was too painful to touch. I see this in Bosnian humour (I live in former Yugoslavia) a lot, joking about all the actual misery people need to deal with after the war, including corruption and poverty.
And also the fact that they were mentioning Phoebe’s mom’s suicide as a joke all the time
And the toxic masculinity, and way the men sexualised every woman they met came across as quite desperate that they didnt value the women for who they were and they just didnt want to be lonely...
@@goranbreskic4304 its not a matter of "in those days", it happened before then, still does now, and will continue, but just because something is common doesn't make it right. sure bringing light to heavy topics is a helpful coping mechanism in real life, but literally broadcasting to the world in a comedy genre show, random insensitive joke after the next, detached from reality, with no respect or spreading awareness on ways to deal/help with the issue, is a different story. Its like how when joking around with your close loved ones you can say something pretty messed up, but if youre in a room full of strangers u should be more mindul bc u never know what stage theyre in, tv is that x100. They just carelessly took real peoples pain and profited off it.
I eat the same breakfast (smoothie) and lunch (avocado toast with egg and salad) every weekday I’m working from home, but it’s because I truly enjoy it. Maybe that’s weird but I love it. I’m not a picky eater and I change up my snacks, dinner, and dessert each day 🤷🏻♀️
Same! I have the same (tasty) breakfast and lunch most weekdays because I know it’s filling and energizing enough to get me through the workday, but I have more fun with dinners and weekend meals. My go-to breakfast is actually an Abbey’s Kitchen smoothie recipe 😂
I’m glad you enjoy that!
I'm with you! I have two standard breakfasts, one for when I'm home and one for the office. For some reason, it doesn't bother me for breakfast like it would for other meals 😊
I do that for the sake of simplicity. I just choose not to make food an issue anymore. I feel the more emphasis I place on creating the perfectly balanced meal the more imbalanced I become with eating overall. I don’t think there is anything wrong or disordered with eating the same simple meals daily. I do that and then enjoy a varied dinner or meal out. It’s not that complicated but I feel like people add so many definitions to disordered eating that I makes us question every morsel of food we consume
Me too I do a bigass bowl of overnight oats every day! All the toppings! LOTS of fruit, hazelnuts, vanilla extract, chia seeds, rasins TONS of penutbutter and occasionally coco powder! Huge recommends ✨✨✨ also means I don’t have to think too much and I can make a lush dinner
Growing up I just thought that “they naturally looked like that” 🤦🏻♀️
I completely understand!
1000%!!!
"Please, please, please, PLEASE let's stop pathologizing stomachs that are not perpetually empty and flat" (as Abbey pounds the arm of the chair). A-fu*king-men & louder please for the folks not yet following your channel:)
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And also, part of the issue here is that uteruses result in a bit of a pooch. No wonder your stomach has to be totally empty to look totally flat. I mean, if you're a cis woman you could have ab muscles that are at least somewhat visible if not a six-pack outright, and still your stomach would pooch out a little due to said uterus. And people don't teach girls in general that. Or trans guys, for that matter.
Seriously! I’m a fairly thin woman and my stomach only looks flat in the morning. Once I’ve eaten and had coffee forget it (and I don’t mean that.I look flat or even bloated- well okay some days it’s bloat). Edit- I can still see some slight ab definition but my stomach won’t be flat.
@@lsmmoore1 ugh I hate when people deny this has anything to do with it. Like it’s a fact!
@@melissajeannek Yep, and you never see it argued by folks who use "biology" to prop up gender roles, because those folks are only interested in the facts which are convenient to them and over-apply others.
Haha, I love that she referred to calories as an excellent appetite suppressant.
Lol the OG appetite suppressant
I watched this when she first published it. it was frightening how little these girls ate and that salad that they’re eating is not what they actually ate because I worked it NBC during those years and they ate far less it was lettuce with a few slices of turkey and carrot …
😳oh wow
Sooo tragic!!....
Oh my god that’s making my stomach growl just thinking about it
Oh wow. That is very concerning!
I watched this when it first came out and thought the girl was incredibly naive. I am an actress and I was around then and we were all supposed to look as skinny as the Friends girls any way possible and if we weren’t it was seen as not being dedicated/trying hard enough. There was no way they were eating anywhere near this or exercising this much. There was a real fear of looking muscular. There was a lot of subsisting on coffee then.
Wow, serious flashbacks to my peak ED days! I used to eat a very similar diet and remember always being exhausted, getting sick, and feeling faint after any kind of physical activity. I hope these ladies found a healthier way to live.
I’m so sorry for your experience!
I got so hungry just watching this I needed to grab a snack. This diet would make me absolutely miserable in every way. The salad does look good but I would probably need to add chicken or hard boiled egg, avocado and salad dressing. I am 35 years old so I do find it sad that I was coming of age during this era. It's taken me a lot of therapy, self compassion, and a change of mindset to get where I am today and no longer have disordered eating habits. I hate how through the decades body types have become a "trend" - 90's super thin to now tiny waste with some curves. Bodies are bodies - not a trend you can control and change up!!!!
Absolutely. Thank you for sharing!
I’ve started eating rice/grain bowls for most weekday lunches. It helps my anxiety to not make another decision, but you can literally put any flavor or protein you want lol
That sounds great!
Re: the peer-influenced disordered eating. My old flatmate and friend would eat a handful of Pringles for dinner, or a piece of pitta and hummus. She'd also pride herself in being hungry and replacing food with hot water and lemon. Was I the thinnest of my adult life? Yes. Was I praised for it? Yes. Was it totally f-ed up? Also yes
It’s so sad how women often bond over diets. We have so many other things to bond over!
had a good friend in the 80s that would eat soup most of the time and was so thin, my gial..now she is obese and I am fit..mindset and balance = longevity and health
I love Friends so much- it’s one of my all time favorite shows! But sometimes when I’m watching it I can’t help but notice how small Jen and Courtney look in certain seasons (not sickly but just super duper tiny). If the camera really does add 10 pounds I can only imagine how small they actually were.
I cannot ever imagine eating the same lunch every day. Nope!
Ikr !!
So true, me neither!
That’s funny, I hated friends so much😂
That salad looks amazing! buuut adding a bit of salmon on top for lunch or grilled whatever plus light salad dressing is def. what it needs. I was size 8 great shape and 5' 9" and thought I was fat because I wasn't a size zero, yes the 90s were gross.
I used to feel so awful about my own body watching those girls. This really helps make sense of what I was seeing and rips the lid off of the unrealistic expectations those teeny tiny figures perpetuated.
I completely understand!
First of all, Abbey I LOVE your shirt. And secondly, I loved that you added the waterboy clip! Thirdly, I’m glad you make videos like these. I know it helps others and me. The best diet is one that works for you long time!
I’ve shared before my struggles with an ED and how I’ve been working on it. But honestly I remember being a young girl wanting to have all my bones show bc that was “beautiful” and it seemed like no one thought that was like ¿dangerous? All that being said, I’m just so grateful people are calling this bs out and that there is so much good info out there so we can better educate ourselves. Living a healthy lifestyle doesn’t mean you have to restrict yourself and it doesn’t have to be miserable. Y’all got it 💪🏽
I’m sitting here nodding along to everything you’re saying Abby. I’m so glad you made this video! Also, another thing that really annoyed me was the body double standard in Friends. The guy friends ate freely on the show without judgment in the script (aka Joey) and they were not expected to loose weight or look an ideal way like the women were. The show is fun and nostalgic but has too many problematic themes :/
Totally
I want add something about this since I have first hand knowledge about influencers and celebrities. I have been on this set several times and I am familiar with the catering and the crew…First of all they did not have the same lunch every day of their life together… show taped one night a week there was one day of rehearsal which they would have lunch …,a day of camera blocking ,which they may or may have not been there for lunch …on the run through during which they may or not have been there for lunch.. Also I believe the show tape for 25 weeks or so per year some people say things like they ate the same thing for lunch every day for seven years obviously you can say that’s not true.
Now this Jen salad thing came from a salad talked about on a recipe in an interview that it was her favorite salad.
She most definitely did not eat this “Jen salad “craft services made her a plate with lettuce sliced turkey carrots sticks there may or may not of been some avocado and celery that she took back to her trailer every day that she was there for lunch.
the story of the girls sitting around together eating their salads that she brought from home is complete and utter nonsense… But it’s all over the Internet “Jen salad”.. the salad that she ate every day I can unequivocally state that this is not true. She ate less. I am told she does better now
Super interesting! Thanks for the intel. But sad she ate even less.
The actual “Jen salad” is apparently one that she had featured on someone’s ig a few years ago. It definitely had dressing and seasoning and is pretty damn good. There are variations of it all over the place and I haven’t seen one as sad as the one featured in the video.
Recommendation: film fatales did a great video on the toxic diet culture in early 2000s media and Bryony Claire has a 3-part series on the general toxicity of the 2000s, it's been eye-opening to look back on that time
I’ll have a look at that!
Just subscribed to them thank you so much for that recommendation! 🙂
I can't find it!
We need to start getting it through our heads that exercise can just be for pleasure and nothing else
Absolutely!
I have known people who would survive on coffee all day long only to go out for dinners and "share" a pizza, burger, fries, you name it. I used to wonder how they managed to look so skinny until I realized they probably ate around 800 calories a day!
Would love a video on this topic!
I still relate so much to "Fat Monica" and the story arc of 'fat loser virgin girl becomes skinny and therefore sexy and everyone likes her' is so toxic.
Sooooo toxic
Sadly what I experienced several times when I lost weight. Losing it righr now and I cannot lie I m waiting for it somehow😅
I think they were so exhausted with starvation that they were ok to eat anything they were given.
I've had the opposite experience I was always really thin growing up early 20s I'm 30 now &deff put on some weight(I'll admit too much) &the way I'm treated is vastly different to how I'm treated as my friends who are thin still or when I was thin.. it's weird🤷
the only binge I'm up to is a binge watch of all your videos! thank you for your content Abbey!
Thank you for posting this, Abbey!! This video has been stuck in my recommendeds for like two weeks and I feel much safer in myself if I watch it with your commentary :)
I hope you found the review helpful! ❤️
Thank you for sharing her content in your platform
And most likely plastic surgery. It’s pretty common for skinny women in Hollywood to get lipo. You’d think they wouldn’t need it, but the devil of Hollywood never sleeps.
For sure. I hope you find the review helpful!
I eat the same few things every day because I am autistic and I love my routine HOWEVER I always make sure to eat enough and I love mixing up my coffee/tea/dessert routine.
Haha same! I have ADHD too so I have seasons long of eating the same meals everyday. I too try and mix it up outside tho
Thank you for sharing what works for you!
My fiance is autistic and his eating habits aren't very healthy. He will rarely get hungry,go days without food, and he usually binge eats junk when he is hungry. I try to make meals and put them up for him and he usually eats what I fix him cold.
I am so glad I decided to watch this today because it gave me a wake up call that I'm falling into some of these horrible habits that my mom taught me to follow in the 90s. Time to be intentional at the grocery store tomorrow!
I’m so glad you found the video helpful!
Thank you for reviewing this, that was excellent!! Would love if you could do a video on how to construct a balanced plate for each meal of the day😊 definitely something I struggle with, I’m sure others do too
So excited to see you cover Jessica Viana's video on this! 👏👏👏
I hope you enjoyed the review!
my friend with celiac was recommended by her doctor to drink more lemon water because she needed more acids in her diet, weird that people claim it alkalinizes things instead lol
Oh wow!
Yeah a naturopath taught us that at my college. Naturopaths also teach that you shouldn't drink water with meals but I understand that is also completely false. Sad thing is I was really helped by a naturopath but they are taught some flawed information.
your channel has been really helping me since i found it. i definitely experienced disorderd eating habits and exercise abuse growing up. knowing now that i dont have to never eat things like salt or ice cream is such a relief. and your recommendation of making each meal have some carbs, fibre, and protein helps me to make sure im eating adequately. that food isnt something to be avoided, but embraced because it really helps your body do everything you want/need to do. im still trying to figure how to manage binges on stuff, but i think im getting there. thank you so much for all your hard work!!
Thank you for sharing. I’m so glad my videos have been helpful for you ❤️
you’re my fav abbey! Like a good angel on my shoulder when there’s so much misinformation on the Internet 😂 thank you💛
Thank you so much! ❤️
My brain can’t fathom how someone can eat the same meal every day for 10 years! I mean, I can’t even eat the same meal for 2 days in a row, I have to change it up, even if it’s just switching out the protein or carbs.
So true!
my guess is it was lunch while filming the show, so not EVERYDAY??
I bet her mouth watered when she saw a burger
Abbey you're so wonderful. Thank you for normalizing eating. Growing up in the 90s and 00s did some DAMAGE. But people like you help to reverse that 💜
I’m so glad my videos are helpful for you! ❤️
As someone who struggles with binge eating I do not understand how these actresses and so many more who do these crazy diets do not binge. Like how do they suppress the bodys natural urges for like 10 years?
Diet pills and binges I imagine.
So true!
It may be hard to believe but not everybody binges. Some people never get the urge to binge. I've been able to lose weight and not binge - I got fat from snacking and drinking too much alcohol while depressed!
So glad you responded to this! I'm not familiar with Jessica's content, but this diet's video popped up on my feed. Watched it and knew it needed to be adressed.
I’m glad you enjoyed the review!
Abbey have you read Portia de Rossi’s book, Unbearable Lightness? Part of it deals with her time on Ally McBeal, another popular 90s show, and what the actresses did to maintain the low weight that was required. It’s very interesting but also very troubling.
Fashion/s have so much to answer for. I remember surviving on cans of diet fizzy drinks, apples and cigarettes during the 90s. No wonder we all have body dysmorphia now. Thanks for another great video ❤
So true. I’m glad it was helpful! ❤️
I'd like to point out that for some neurodiverse people, planning meals and eating a variety of foods can be overwhelming. Having the same meals every day can be a way for them to have a routine, so I generally give people the benefit of the doubt just in case; otherwise yeah, we all need a bit of variety in our diets.
I know right now I need me some veggie spring rolls every week or I'll scream 😂
I totally understand. Thank you for mentioning this point!
Im really loving the whole look with the green top! Perfect for a video near st Patrick's day 💚☘💚🍀
Really helpful video for just debunking the messages the show gives about being effortlessly emaciated and as always the focus on actually eating to live.
Thank you! So glad you found the video helpful 😊
Fortunately my group of friends in the 90s weren't in this diet mindset but I could remember how common it was with the magazine's that were full of diet tips I think I bought three in total always showing before and after.
Abbey! That top looks amazing on you. Also thank you for your videos!!
Thank you!
TW : ED
What I don't understand is how all the signs that must've appeared from all this chronic undereating were ignored.
When I struggled the worst with my ED, I did 1-2hours of hardcore cardio a day and only ate about 1000 calories, after about a week I already had blackouts, my hair fell out, I was too tired to move aside from the gym etc etc... how can those actresses be in an environment with so many people and even those signs we're not enough for someone to speak up??
I don’t think anyone cared as long as they perform
So true. I’m so sorry for your experience!
(TW) I agree with the poster before me. They didn’t care. It was how you were supposed to look. If you didn’t look like the Friends cast, Calista Flockhardt and Gwyneth Paltrow you weren’t trying hard enough. I also do not believe they were exercising this much. It was probably PR to make them seem more healthy. I started acting then and watching this today has made a lot of the old “rules” come flooding back. You had to have a flat stomach, no breasts, and honestly no muscles. That was the look. And (MAJOR TW) I can’t speak for the Friends set, but on other sets and theater productions fainting was pretty normal. Not that everyone fainted every day, but people minimized it when it happened because it really was expected of all women to do whatever it took to look that way to get and keep jobs. Telling actresses to eat more was telling them to give up their hard earned and lucrative jobs and to give up their dreams. Things are a lot better today. Things are far from perfect now, but back then no matter what your build, looking like a waif was expected and they didn’t care how you did it. IME
I absolutely LOVE this video! As a 90s kid, Friends definitely was peak terrible diet culture, and I’ve spent two decades trying to undo the toxic thoughts. We used to watch it as a family, and I loved it but now watching it, I get more annoyed at how everything in it is unrealistic, from their giant apartments to insanely thin bodies. Thank you so much for this Abbey!!
P.S. I also chuckled when you gave a shout-out to the Avengers at the beginning and then proceeded to show an image from DC’s Superman. Not going to tell my husband bc he’d probably short circuit lol!
I completely understand! Sorry about that, my bad 😊
A couple of things: Atkins became popular (again) in the *late* 90s, not when "Friends" first came on the air.
This video focuses on "Friends," but during the mid-90s or so, there were articles noting that in every hit sitcom, the actresses became thinner, sometimes scarily so, while the men overwhelmingly did not. The real puzzler was why this happened *after* the show became a hit, since obviously, people liked the character and "look" of the actress.
"The "Heroin Chic" look *was* much decried at the time, but Fashion ignored it. However, it wasn't really seen in its entirety (which included lank hair, undereye circles, etc.) outside of fashion shoots. The "Lollipop Head" look -- stick body, big head on top of it -- was also criticized outside of the entertainment industry but it continued throughout the 90s.
I’m glad you covered this and spoke about how harmful this stuff is!! For an interesting take on the celebrity side of this- Debra Messing did an interview on the podcast iWeigh with Jamila Jamil (it came out August 7, 2020) where she talks about the insane pressure she was under to look so thin when she was on Will & Grace and how that impacted her.
I think they (jen at least) may have metabolic damage still. I remember an interview for a movie more recently where she had to gain quite a lot of weight and they asked her what she did to gain it and she said she just ate like a regular person and didn’t restrict…
Interesting, I’ll have a look into that!
Wooo new video! My favourite channel!
😊❤️
After seeing her video I actually made the Jen Salad because it sounded delicious and hit the HCC. I made it with quinoa because I couldn’t find bulgur and I cooked it in bone broth, added some olive oil and balsamic reduction.
That sounds great!
recently I started re-watching FRIENDS and Jessica's video was recommended at some point on my youtube homepage. It blew my mind how little food they used to eat, but even though we can all realize that, it was still so triggering. The whole "carbs is your enemy" diet that was so popular in the 90s, we know it's bs, but still I was so tempted to go down that road..so thank you to Abbey and Jessica for stressing sooo many times how problematic these diets are and how much important food is for our bodies :)
So glad you found this video helpful! ❤️
I can't be the only who is so freaking tired of seeing avocado for breakfast 🤦🏼♀️ I'm totally guilty of loving avo toast but pregnancy changed my love of avocado (I hate it now) . This, with crazy inflation of price, and the popularity of it, I'm ready for it to die off. I even saw the option to add it to a meal for $5. A SLICE! sorry I'm done now
So true!
I'm surprised the avocado trend has lasted this long. I enjoy them, but wouldn't want to eat them every day. Plus, they don't grow locally in the vast majority of the US, and taste like crap much of the year. I wish we'd enjoy our own seasonal produce instead of copying everything they do in LA 🙄
You know when you’ve healed your relationship with food ( thanks to you my darling Abbey ) when you can watch these videos while eating ice cream !
I adore you for everything you’ve done for me xo
Sounds great! So glad my videos have been helpful for you, thank you for sharing ❤️
Hi Abbey, I'm trying to kick my binge-eating and incorporate intuitive eating. What I took away from this video is that from this starting point I have a bit of an uphill battle as my binge-eating definitely comes out as an intense sugar craving after any meal. I wan to listen to my body, but it's really difficult to ignore that craving. How can I manage it without going to processed sugar?
Ah this brings back all of the diet culture-y things my mom instilled into my head in the 90s. I’m in my 30s now and just now beginning to heal my relationship with food, thanks in large part to you, Abbey! Those calorie totals were so small, it made me hungry just thinking about it. I work out 5 days a week most weeks and I think I probably eat a little over 2000 calories a day most days, and I’m only 5’2”, 135-140ish lbs. I’m just flabbergasted at how people even survive at all off of a heavily restricted diet for so long. It’s honestly mind boggling. I keep thinking of how, when I was under eating and over exercising, I was constantly cold and my body just hurt. I feel for people who go through that cycle for years and feel like those metabolism red flags are just “normal” for them.
Thank you for sharing your experience with this. I’m so glad you found this video to be helpful!
Great video as always and off topic, your hair and that green on you!!! 🔥 🔥🔥
Thank you so much!
The Jen salad does sound good, one of my favorite things is something really similar but I like to use couscous instead of bulgur and some olive tapenade from Trader Joe’s for the dressing! And a side of some berries or if I’m really hungry hummus and pita! And sometimes paired with red wine. Yum!!
Edited to say I don’t think I would want it for lunch and dinner EVERY DAY though! The 90’s skinny pressure was so intense. Being 36 I definitely felt that growing up.
It was the Zone diet!!!! How soon they forget…
I can’t imagine doing this for one day, let alone year in and year out
Me too!
love your content! could you please a post about anti inflammatory and blood type diets?
This is the second time this week I’ve heard about a blood type diet. In Japan I read the use blood type as like astrology hahaha
I have a blog post about this topic! www.abbeyskitchen.com/diet-for-your-blood-type-hype-or-hack/
David Beckham recently let slip that Victoria has eaten the same dinner since they've been together, fish and vegetables, every day. Must be a hang over from those days in the 90s!
So true!
Yep working on that now
Well, it can be varied. Fish and vegetables, I mean, and it sounds tasty. I hope she does it because she likes it.
@@goranbreskic4304 but she never has anything different, even if they go out for dinner. That's not just because someone likes it.
I always love watching your videos, and it's interesting to see what you said.. even though we're in 2023 they are still doing these restrict diets, low carb, or keto and it's so sad when I see dieticians saying that I should follow something like this. It just triggers my binge eating and it makes me feel horrible. It shouldn't be like this.. Your videos are always very educational and brings me inner peace.
What shirt or dress are you wearing in your ad??? I love it. Also, the 90s weren’t so great, but 90s music was great. Totally Spotifying 90s playlists lately.
You look so nice! The green dress looks nice on you and I like your waves 😊
Something I noticed is that the clip at 15:53 is done twice and you said two different things about it. You had one response, then it played again, and you had a different response. I think you missed putting a different clip in the first time.
Oh yeah, watching Friends is still kinda triggering for me, because I grew up with it and I'm so hard coded to want to have The friends body. I know I can't have anything like that but I still get ridiculously jealous of that look. I do feel for all these actresses. It's baffling to me how they could just keep going with these diets.
I’m so sorry if this video was triggering for you!
I thought Courtney was one of those naturally very thin people, but I just learned the woman must have been miserable. I hope she is much happier now.
@@goranbreskic4304 I think she is naturally very slim the way she was in the first season or so. However she is clearly not meant to look sickly underweight the way she did for much of the show. At times she looks deathly ill.
@@AbbeysKitchen nooo don't be :) this was the first time I realized how tough all this must have been for them. This video was pretty eye opening, which I meant to say
I absolutely LOVE the solid green top Abbey! Can you please share where to get it?
I think it’s from Zara
As a kid I had a period where I would do too many sports (I loved them all and my friends in the different groups, so my parents allowed me to continue). I scraped my knee one day and it wouldn’t heal, so I had to go to the doctor. They said that because I was underweight my body couldn’t take care of my wound and it had developed into an infection. Many people view weight as a look, but do not consider all the medical stuff that really goes into the body functioning. I personally refuse to cut out carbs because I do not wish to do things that could make my brain/body struggle down the road. The body is so complex and we are hopefully going to live with it for a long time, we truly need to be kind to it and help it out so it can do what it needs to do for us💕
The tragic thing with the behind the scenes with Friends is that all 3 women had in their contracts that they weren’t allowed to gain weight, and the guys did not have anything in their contracts that banned weight gain.
Hi, could you please link Jessica's video?
BTW, your dress makes your eyes POP!!
I really like how active you are in the comments, even though you have a big community and a lot of feedback on your content! :)
Thank you so much! I love interacting with everyone ❤️
@@AbbeysKitchen I can tell! :)
Love your top, Abbey ❤️ And you are glowing ☺️
Thank you! ❤️
Yeah I remember the "size 0" era. I remember around 2004 Eva Longoria was super thin in the Desperate Housewives
Remember when her character got pregnant and she didn’t fit in a dress and how it was made such a big deal.
Then when her character had kids and was made to be little bigger but they acted like she was huge.
I remember in reality TV when Jessica Simpson gained a little weight and pregnancy rumours went around or Girls Next Door poor Bridget who was closer to average size was made out to be the big one it was horrible.
I was a teen back then
Yup!
@@SMRCEC sadly if I remember correctly Gabbys character was a double zero. To be fair I think Eva Longoria has always been smaller but yea it’s insane that they made her seem huge when she gained weight in the 5th season (I don’t think she really gained weight though- think it was a “fat suit” or baggy clothes).
@@melissajeannek yes she was 00 and the friend of hers said something about it won’t fit, then she replied with I’ve always been a 00.
Definitely fat suit in real life.
It was frustrating how they acted about her character.
I rewatched the series last year
Never been this early. LOVE your content♥️
Thank you! ❤️
,You are awesome!!!!....love ur approach!!
BRAVO!!!!!!
I've been accidentally unsubscribed for weeks, from your channel! Now I got a lot of juicy catching up to do :)
I hope you enjoy the videos! ❤️
I was a teen in the 90's and I NEVER felt this pressure!! It's so crazy, I felt so beautiful in the 90's, I think social media has been infinitely worse for my self esteem. That's why I don't use it anymore. The hustle mentality I find there is too pervasive and unhealthy.
I recall watching Jessica's video and thinking omg. You're right the 90s were not that great. For a teenage girl living in the western world atleast. You'd think Kate Moss was "the way" to look - cos you didn't know any better. And I come from a family with South American roots where food wasn't really an issue and we would just all sit together and eat....having seconds was not unusual either. This obviously clashed with the skinny 90s phase!! I always found myself battling between the 2 thank God those days are over.
My husband and I both eat pretty much the same thing every morning for breakfast because it's so much faster. We both have a tendency to hit the snooze button and not having to think about what we are going to have for breakfast is so helpful for getting us to work on time.
I totally understand that!
I love your videos about series. I feel better to watch about my prototypes when i was a child.
Definitely need to stop acting like stomachs are flat all the time! I don't even do it intentionally anymore, but I'm actively trying to stop sucking in my stomach because I know there's no need to, but I've been doing it for so long that it's natural at this point!
Totally!
I just watched the show Everwood from 2002-2006 and was shocked at how progressively
thin the women on that show got. It was scary. Same with Ally McBeal 1997-2002 it was like they were trying to have 10-year-old boy bodies! It was a dark time for women in Hollywood and it affected/infected us all. Glad those days are gone.
Oh wow, that’s very interesting!
Great message!
Thanks!
Loving the hair😍😍😍
Thanks!
I was eat my Built Bar puff as my night time snack, enjoying your video!
Sounds great!
If I ate the same lunch, even just for a month, I'd be homicidal 🤷♀️
Me too!
I had the same thing twice a day for two months, but I was pregnant and it was only thing I could stomach. It was so sucky
@@SMRCEC noooo 😱
I had exactly the same lunch of a cheese sandwich and water throughout school because I was vegetarian and there was limited options. Also had an apple and I think a chocolate bar but I walked home from school which I think was about a mile and a half.
You look phenomenal in this green shirt! Really compliments your tones!
Thank you so much!
thanks for your insights with this review.
I have the same basis breakfast every morning, aka overnight oats, because of laziness and because I know I would end up buying pastries on the go if I didn't eat and left the house hungry, but even then I am trying to switch it up regularly, sometimes with apple, sometimes with cocoa, almond butter and peanut butter interchangeably, and chainging fruits acc. to the season, because otherwise I would be straight bored with the same tasting breakfast 365 times a year!! I love the "jen salad" and it's a staple in summer but as you said: switch it up girl - couscous, quinoa, wheat berries, and diff. veggies / dressings!!!
OH I love your top so much!!
Thanks!
I'm guessing none of the men on Friends were similarly asked about the details of their diet?
I see no lies here
So true!
Why, when Abbey said “restrictive diets of the past” did I immediately think “we’re both named after great singers of the past who now do infomercials!”
🤣🤣🤣
Hahaha always