Convenient this happens to be the top comment for me. I’m not sure what the rest of the comments look like but maybe this should be pinned just in case
fair but, this implies that we've seen the actual mechanism for springlocks, most we've gotten to actually seeing the parts that actually do the "springlocking" are the lil things we'd click in the sisterlocation minigame, which was inside the suit, meaning we have no idea if the mimic in the games does have springlocks like the book mimic@Sonicmid
@Sonicmid there is no proof in the games that the mimics legs are springlocks, yes we do see them, but we have no idea what the mechanism looks like in tge games outside of the minigame
@@soapbubs59 if you delete the springlock off of the model you'll see how the legs has pressure in some parts of his legs like if springlocks were there
Tbh for these past few days I've been really thinking about this topic, because I've realized that a lot of the characters we've known by name, we just took those names from the books, and that really messes with my brain. 😭🙏
Yeah, the only reason we have william afton is because of fnaf six after the fact, Henry from big implication and the spoken names otherwise, there are just a lot of names we as a collective fan base assume are the names because of there only being parallels such as Charlie.
@@mrhalfsaid1389 Afton is mentioned in sister location. We never seen Henry called by name in the games tho. Closest thing is a recording with ‘HRY’ in the title, but that couldve just as easily been Harry
So some things about Eleanor I wanted to clear up that you mentioned but not really fully or just got kinda wrong: - In to be beautiful Eleanor doesn't give Sarah the pendant she instead creates a new one for her, this is also pretty clear with Jessica having one in Frailty, meaning that Eleanor was able to basically mass produce these by using her agony and remnant. - She's capable of all of the things you've mentioned before she entered her form in epilouge 10 as a big plot point in the proior stingers is that she's been giving these memories to Larson ever since the fight with the Agony/Miscreation or whatever you want to call it. - Eleanor doesn't want to be a creature made of agony and remnant she already IS, she's simply consuming as much as she possibly can to gain more power as "Eleanor" isn't the doll animatronic instead it's the agony creature that's using it as a physical body. - Also a less major thing is the whole Agony thing, she's not helping she's literally creating, Afton's far too weak to do such a thing as Jake says, hell he calls him harmless however Eleanor's agony was able to supercharge him enough to fight Jake and Andrew and then Larson, she's literally using Afton as her cover up for being the bad guy. (proof of this is basically everything Jake says about the Agony and the Agony slowly dying off even before the Puppet had attacked it) :3 i'm an Eleanor nerd so here
6:37 My name is uncommon enough that whenever I hear it used it jumpscares me because I never expect it to be used to refer to someone other than me. Like the only person I've known in real life named Eleanor is my great-grandmother, who I was named after.
I'm gonna be honest the next game better actually help out with the lore a lot cuz nothing is really getting discovered anymore and no answer's have been given to the past so it feels like we've been stuck in place for YEARS now.
Yea as much as I really do like this wave of fnaf theorists looking back at the lore in a more narrative sense is cool and it’s good to have more updated vids about fnaf lore, but I agree the games have basically covered one story which is cool but I agree we need some actual lore advancement.
@@ashtrroI’d agree,I’ve been with these games since I was 8 or 9 and I love the way the story is told but at this point I do feel like it’s gotten so big that we need to confirm things so that things can feel like they did when the lore was relatively small so we can feel like we’re actually making progress. Into The Pit (the next game) is going to about time travel so it seems likely that older mysteries will be put to bed so newer mysteries can take centre stage
@SonicmidMany points against this 1. Continuities can be different. Ex: Puppet doesn't exist in the Silver Eyes Trilogy. 2. Scott said Mat got mostly everything right also the story got expanded after 3 so that's not good evidence. 3. A lot of people are shifting over to Crying Child possessing the Fredbear Plush not Golden Freddy directly. Two possessed objects, including one being a walkie talkie, occupying one thing is supported by Stitchline. 4. Golden Freddy technically speaking is still one thing even if it's 2 souls. 5. We have no evidence that Crying Child wants to stop William. 6. He's with Michael based on the security logbook. 7. Parallel is defined as "a person or thing that is similar or analogous to another" Analogous is defined as "comparable in certain respects, typically in a way which makes clearer the nature of the things compared". There is no reason they can't be parallels. 8. Redundant see point 2. 9. How does Fnaf World imply that? 10. Stitchwrath and Golden Freddy aren't meant to be the same. Just some concepts. 11. One eye doesn't kill the theory. It could imply CC moved on a Cassidy didn't. 12. If CC possesses the Fredbear Plush this doesn't matter. Also Cassidy being more vengeful would also be a reason to have more control. 13. Happiest Day is literally CC minigame flipped how are you gonna argue it's for Cassidy. We don't even know if it was Cassidy birthday when they died. Some points of my own: 14. The Bow Tie theory also supports two souls. 15. Why would Golden Freddy say It's Me to Micheal if it was only Cassidy? 16. Security Logbook also proves the two are connected in someway.
@Sonicmid More points against this 1. Again not nessissarily true. Whole characters don't exist across certain continuities. 2. Scott confirmed he didn't have the full story though out till FNAF 4. So even if Golden Freddy had one soul at the time, he can still have two as of 4. Scott's narrative wasn't finished during FNAF 1-3. 3. The game literally tells us the plushes were him friends and them being friends isn't a rule for possession. 4. Molten Freddy is supposedly 5 things in 1, not nessissarily 5 souls in 1. As we know Molten Freddy has more then 5 souls. Also CC likely isn't even in Molten Freddy by Freddie Plush Theory anyway. 5. Actually we do. The Fredbear Plush is literally labeled as Possessed. 6. You just contacted yourself with that point. If the stuff in it is canon then even if the physical book isn't, everything the logbook tells us still is. Also the logbook helps explain how the Nightmare Animatronics exist in Help Wanted. 7. Reusing concepts in the story and parallels can coexist. 8. Golden Freddy having one or multiple souls was never established. If anything 3 shows he has two. And again the narrative wasn't finished till FNAF 4. 9. Saying glitchbear is William is a wild take. Also him having contact proves nothing. 10. The similarly comes in the way they came to exist not the powers. 11. Gonna need more elaboration cause I have no idea what you are trying to say. 12. What evidence is there that the Plush isn't real? Also there is no evidence that Andrew exists in the games so he isn't vengeful. 13.1 Narrative wasn't finished till 4, 13.2 No proof that Cassidy is the Logbook girl, 13.3 FNAF World sets up the Happiest Day for Bite Victim/CC, 13.4 Vr line up and secret minigames also work for CC 14. Saying minigame spirits aren't accurate is wild considering most of the lore coming from them. Also Bowtie theory shows the Fredbear and purple is represented by CC, and Golden Freddy and Black is represented Cassidy. 15. That point makes no sense. 16. Again what are you talking about?
I find it kinda interesting that a repeated theme in these stories is characters trying to collect a LOT of agony. The stitchwraith wants to collect as many agony infested things as possible to try and get rid of them. William Afton uses all that agony to become the agony amalgamation. Dr. Phineas Taggart was collecting items with agony to try and bring the stitchwraith to life. Eleanor wants to collect agony to try and become a complete agony being. Throughout these stories, characters are trying to collect as much agony as they possibly can. Could this be connected to Afton's search for remnant? Idk just something I thought of while watching this video. What are y'all's thoughts?
The simon doll being a parallel to the fredbear plush is such an obvious hint at jake being the stand-in for the crying child, i recently started doubting that frights wasn't canon but this convinced me again that it's a parallel to the games and not part of the games
@Sonicmid they both died to a problem with their heads, went to a hospital, and unknowingly talked to their fathers through a doll/plush before haunting an animatronic with another spirit, just because their lives isn't the exact same means nothing, it's like telling me william from the movie isn't the same as william from the games just because they didn't have the exact same life, they're the same character just in different timelines
@Sonicmid a BRAIN cancer and the other got BRAIN damage from an animatronic bite, i never said they have the same personality just that jake is a parallel to the crying child
Jake and c.c Jake never has older brother who bully him and put his head to fredbear Jake has good dad and his mother dies jake dies by cancer Jake is so different c.c personality
yeah quite a bit of twitter isnt happy with this, (there was also a bit of cope with a couple of people thinking the jake part of the vdieo was going to be that jake is canon to the games)
20:52 So, following that logic, Afton's death in the lake wouldn't be the end of this one, but rather a parallel to the Springlock failure from the games, the movie, and the novel trilogy. In the other three timelines, Afton dies by being crushed by the springs and choking on his blood, all because the souls of the 5 children were chasing him. In Frights, Afton is chased by Charlie, and dies by being torn apart and drowned in a lake. It would make sense to me that this death of the lake was a parallel to the Springlock fault.
Actually, I would appreciate it if someone could explain the Dual Process' explanation as to why Golden Freddy has two glowing eyes in the bad ending. If they claim Cassidy is the only spirit within Golden Freddy, what is their justification? I tried to relisten to that part of the video, but I didn't get it. I really liked their theory, but at this point, I have to assume there is a second spirit and they were mistaken on that particular point. Can someone explain that part, so that I understand the theory better?
@Sonicmid the books do not tell the events of the games' universe. there are obvious differences between the books and games, although they can be used to figure out certain details. CC not being in the books doesnt mean anything
@@hailey813 They explained that since the 6 spirits in the Happiest Day minigame include the Puppet along with the 5 masks from the FNAF 3 endings, and the Puppet in FNAF 6 is trapped within Lefty, who has only a single golden eye on the left side, the left light within Golden Freddy in that ending actually represents Charlotte’s spirit. If this is true, it’s probably just a workaround for Scott to make the lore fit the old games since he’s changed the lore over time.
I want to recommend Dual Process Theory's video. Its 2 hours long, and I think they make a good argument even if I disagrer with one of their majour arguments. I do however, think they might be onto something with their idea that Michael is the vengeful spirit. On a semi-related note, is anyone else disatisfied with the name code in the logbook? I dont have it myself, but ever since Cassidy was first discovered Ive had doubts as to whether weve actually solved it.
@Sonicmid LOL, nah. I've also been iffy about the Princess. I do think it has something to do with Vanny, but I also don't think we are entirely on the right track.
It's crazy that the Fazbear books introduced an actual agony demon with seemingly no ties to Afton or any other pre-existing characters, then refused to elaborate on her origins.
I'm only about a minute into the video but I need to say your cats are so SO sweet. You can tell how much they love you. I love when I see them in your videos, despite how distracting their adorableness is! It's a great trick to get me to watch your videos twice: second time for the lore, first time for the cats! Please give them a pat for me
How is it that there is 1 character that is linked to the game always being left out of these theories? I am talking about Suzie, yes her story doesn't have any connection to the SIthwrath but it does have a big impact on the game it self and goes into who she died and became Chica. It is the 4th book Step Closer in the chapter Coming Home where we are introduced to her. We also learn that she had a sister and a mother who are both burdened with the death of Suzy who is still with them during the day even though they do not see her, since she is only there in spirit. And she was looking for a doll that her and her sister have fought over. It is a very touching story and probably one of my fav out of those stories. Why isn't any one even mentions her?
Susie is a very overlooked character that is importsnt to the lore. She was the star of fnaf6, literally buying and play testing the fruity maze game till she breaks it in utterly unhinged rage, with William in the background to witness it. Considering how Susie resembles William’s Elizabeth, the fnaf4 girl’s bed room seems to be a fruity maze reference, and has a doll that is central to her (crying child and William’s Fredbear plushy). It’s possible her dad is Willy and that’s why he’s suddenly not in the picture anymore after the incident. One thing that I considered that’s absolutely horrible is that game William is very different from the movies and novels based on the rumors, but Henry framed him for murder and an agony monster used these rumors to manifest himself into a icon of terror (spring Bonnie). It makes a lot of sense when fnaf2 and fnaf3 shows us that the human killer never worn a costume to perform five murders in one day (“Foxy Go go go”) and the spring bonnie costume itself had to be haunted because it was completely unwearable for even Fazbear’s low standards (fnaf3 tapes). So if the killer was suited, he wouldn’t be wearing spring Bonnie. I especially considered this possibility after Into the Pit has “Oswald’s dad” (an imposter) turned Oswald into the foxy the pirate victim.
I've always been a huge book lover and getting into FNAF and finding out they had books had me absolutely going insane. I read the entire Silver Eyes Series and it was an obsession that still pops up sometimes, and then I read all the Fazbear Frights books. All of them. Some of them, some of them still keep me awake at night.
A lot of putting pieces back together or ripping things that are whole into pieces throughout this story. I feel like that's how we beat the bad guys in this series. Uniting the victims or even uniting the pieces of Afton so you can kill the vessel
13:56 LMAO I couldn't help but notice that you used the Poppy Playtime battery XD Yeah. Andrew and Jake sound like Cassidy and CC, Golden Freddy... Drowning in a red lake did always sound like drowning in blood to me.
This was a great theory, especially since I haven't had time to read the books! Couldn't, on the flipside, the books be the accurate events of the early FNAF games, if Scott (or what his name is in the books as the "rogue indie developer" / Someone who was hired by Fazbear secretly to make the first three games while being tortured by illusion discs) made the first three games with limited information on Fazbear's history? It seems like his character knew that there were these tragedies from internet rumours, or newspaper articles, but probably didn't know Cassidy's name like he doesn't know Crying Child's name. Maybe the unreliable narrator of the first few games explains the inconsistencies in names. Because Scott's in-universe character was perhaps wrong.
I've always wondered if there was a connection between the vengeful spirit in an alligator mask, and how full of rage and destruction Monty is. Especially towards the "rabbit" animatronic.
They should honestly make a fnaf 2d animated series for adults/young adults and teens that combines lore elements from the games (including spin offs and perhaps fan games), books (silver eyes trilogy and fazbear frights but with some of the stories rewritten better, and of course tales from the pizzaplex), and movies (including movies that are inspired by fnaf), and also adding new lore elements and concepts for surprises and new stuff, I imagine the artstyle being the same as either invincible or my adventures with Superman. characters I would add from the books. 1. Sticthwraith (Jake and Andrew) 2. Larson 3. Sammy Emily 4. Aunt Jen 5. John 6. Jessica 7. Marla 8. Jason 9. Lamar 10. Carlton 11. Clay 12. Oswald 13. Sarah 14. Millie 15. Eleanor (I’m personally under the belief that Eleanor is a animatronic monster made with the agony of Elizabeth afton/circus baby. P-S: I would also rewrite the twisted ones and fourth closet as well as certain fazbear frights stories such as into the flesh, he told me everything and the puppet carver.
I love this theory! The red lake makes so much sense for drowning in your own blood. And of course William Afton in the Silver Eyes knows what it's like to die in a springlock suit, because that's how he learned. By killing Cassidy in such a violent way, it caused the vengeful spirit's agony to inhabit it. Also, the crying child could be the second spirit in Golden Freddy, since it's probably an original springlock suit along with Golden Bonnie/Springtrap. Makes sense CC's head getting crushed in GF/Fredbear's mouth in FNaF 4 could be grounds for him possessing the suit, as well. Question is, which death came first, Cassidy or CC?
The Eleanor description makes it seem like remnant even a small piece of it is much more powerful than agony. But perhaps fragile to outside influence. Aka fire.
Wow, I never thought about Cassidy/Whoever the true vengeful spirit is, dying by drowning in their own blood in the suit. That makes so much sense to what we see in the games, too. Slowly, things are coming together in little ways.
to be honest i never thought people consider books directly canon of the games books are more like a paralel universe where scott can go insane and do whatever he wants with elements of fnaf without messing up the game lore like 90% of characters dont exist but with that characters scott do random things that tells story of what main characters are about to or what they did kinda like this. book: once upon a time a hero lived and after years of training the hero beat the monster game: kid set his dad on fire book2:be carefull its the evil wizard game2: afton again.....really? book3: hero does one last super epic battles with demon king game3: miceal - dad do me a favor and *DUCKİNG DİE!'* technically both get to same outcome just other adds more decorative,random,weird things to it, is hero beat the villian yes but instead of hero its micheal and instead of monster its afton probably this what scott meant by "canon in their own way" i forgot tweet or wherever he writed but this is basicly what he siad
thats so good matpat made a theory abt what you talked abt a while ago abt andrew and jake just showing that two spirits can possess one animatronic which could be crying child and vengeful spirit in golden freddy but i think thats a good way because it talks abt the one you should not have killed and making him seem different from the others cause the others seem like they prob got strangled or knifed to death but vengeful spirit seems more angry than the others and him making him suffer more than the others would make sense why he is more mad and it could also makes sense on why golden freddy cant move or speak because theres no endo skeleton in golden freddy cause the vengeful spirit body is in it and idk how the design is but there may not be a voice box in it while someone is in it idk though great theory
I don’t think the Vengeful Spirit debate is about “Who is Golden Freddy?” I think it’s just about who the kid face is. No matter whether the books are parallels or not, it’s implied that the Vengeful Spirit is attached to William and has been since he got springlocked, keeping him alive ever since with the end goal of making him suffer. KidFace appears all over the place in UCN, in vents, doorways, even the game over screen, but Golden Freddy only appears if you crank up his AI value. Since the “He” mentioned in UCN seems to be referring to KidFace and not Golden Freddy, and Cassidy seems to be a girl, it probably isn’t Cassidy who’s keeping William alive. And Cassidy and TOYSHK don’t even really line up personality wise. Cassidy seems to be a helpful spirit who wants Afton to die, but TOYSHK seems to be a noncooperative spirit who wants to keep William alive in order to torture him. TLDR: TOYSHK isn’t Golden Freddy or Cassidy, he’s probably something else even if the Frights books are just parallels.
@Sonicmid I wholeheartedly agree, but I’m just tryna appeal to FrightsParallels believers. I feel like CassidyTOYSHK is genuinely the only part of this that could be considered a misconception
Honestly with Twinsouls, it's always possible that it's not just one person in Golden Freddy. Especially when we learn William was joyriding in secret. It's not out of reason a third kid to have either been in Golden Freddy or just been torturing William.
always has been odd to me the adition of monty alligator animatronic and that one of the child in 8-bits had this mask before. But, how if monty killing bonnie is a sort of paralel to the kid with alligator mask killing afton, at the end william had a bonnie (springbonnie) costume.
So, going based off of the Andrew/Cassidy parallel, and the whole drowning in your own blood inside of a springlock suit thing, as well as assuming the Golden Duo thing to be somewhat correct, would this mean that William was intentionally killing before the Bite Victim was bitten, and then the Bite Victim went on to eventually possess the suit as well, whilst Cassidy also did? You'd also said that the kid with curly black hair was "further down, inside the springlock golden freddy suit." Could that also be a parallel to how Andrew couldn't see in the Stitchwraith? Dunno, good theory, though! :D
Books literally confirmed spirit possessed next to him Andrew possessed William Jake his plush Charlie possessed puppet Missing kids possessed animatronics C.c possessed fredbear plush
@@killerman3715 I have watched the movie, it is one of my favorite movies of all time, actually. I would like to remind you that the movie is not 100% to the games. And also, I know you might not like the line, but seriously, it IS just a theory! I'm just trying to help people's brains get running, while also sharing my own ideas at the same time.
One thing about Jake and CCs fathers; When in the context of who they are/what they do; While Jake's father is in a war, what if that is how William sees himself? Being a soldier, in an evergoing war against those that caused his kid to suffer? And Jake's father dying in the war...could be a child-friendly version told to him when William died? (Whoever saw William in the safe rooms/was the one to decide them being walled in, was the one talking to Andrew, telling him his father is gone) This isn't actually just a good defence for their parental figures, but as a bridge for them as well. Because if this is the "timeline" of the two; - CC gets bit -Jake is diagnosed with Cancer, and in the hospital -Both try to "continue" their lives, us seeing what CC did through the minigames is perhaps = Jake's adventures After a while, knowing that the boys wont survive, they try to help them at least ease their suffering But -Jake's father died in the war, and thus he'll never return -William gets springlocked, and as far as anyone learning that, would imagine him to die from it, especially once they seal up the saferoom; [A stretch] and wants to tell Michael his dad won't return, and that he's too far for Michael to ever see again (Making sure he doesn't get the idea to go look for William. Perhaps either to cover up for what they did, what William became [his presumable mangled corpse] Or maybe to just try to let the world move on from this evil.) TLDR; The differences in their father's demise, isn't a point against them being comparable/being a plot hole, but instead a bridge between them? What if we are simply overthinking it and looking into the details that doesn't matter as much as we make them see? - Kid gets hospitalized - Dad communicates yo yhem through a toy Trying to help them by providing at least letting them pretend to explore the world, even if its an impossible dream - Kid gets worse - moving to hospice - Dad disappear/wont br heard from again - Kid dies in hospital Presumable linked to their toy/animatronic's disappearance.
except William Afton is directly responsible for the death of the crying child/ his son, and has killed all 3 of his children himself with Elizabeth being the only one he murdered accidentally. The other 2 he did it intentionally, and 1 of them (the crying child) he did in front of his eldest child Michael in order to gain a follower by awakening Michael's serial killer mentality. That's why William Afton (while behind the remote controls to the springlock suit) closed springlock Freddy's mouth on the crying child's head at that exact moment. The apple didn't fall far from the tree with Michael... that is until he learned about remnant. That said Michael was a devoted follower of his father because he killed his brother in front of him.
Stupid idea. While listening to this I realized something, what if Crying Child is more parallel to Jake than we realize. What if the events we see in FNAF4 are all things that happen are actually the crying Child experiencing them from bed. That the reason for the Fredbear plush following you isn't that it is everywhere, but hinting the crying Child isn't actually moving. The plush is guiding him through memories for some purpose.
Crying child and jake are so different Survival logbook call Fredbear plush imagine friend Cassidy ask if Fredbear plush still talk to him Jake plush different Jake possessed his plush then become stitchwraith
For anyone who wants to get more depth on Eleanor, I highly recommend NotRealNameNotAtAll's channel. She also covered the Stitchwraith. In my opinion, Andrew just TOYSHK from UCN and the Stitchwraith is just Golden Freddy but instead of Cassidy and the Crying Child, it's Andrew and Jake. I also like William Afton's Agony Blast fueling his ability to Always Come Back better than how they started keeping him around in the games before pivoting to The Mimic.
I’ve always thought that some of the characters in the book are supposed to be representations and I always thought that Cassidy death was something specific like being spring locked so yeah pretty solid theory
Y’know, a couple months back, I had been confused if Fnaf help wanted was based off of the Fnaf games from the developer, but if you pay attention, handunit refers the game as “the Freddy fazbear experience” and not Fnaf. Also, in UCN, toy Freddy plays five nights at Mr hugs, which could be the game to books are referring to, but that is still up for debate
I personally believe that the frights books are written in-universe by the new fazbear entertainment (LLC) to cover up their dark past, just like Help Wanted. (the reason for this is Sire Squawks)
Was that Simpsons hit and run in the backround? Also thank you for being one of the few agreeable people who see credence for books being canon because i thought i was alone in the boat of disagreeing but not being against it (it is painful to deal with hate when you aren't even fighting in the first place)
I love the part about Golden Freddy's twitching, this makes so much sense It seems very likely to be canon, considering Springtrap twitches in the same way in the fnaf3 trailer, likely portraying Afton being springlocked
One of the reasons why I believe the books aren’t in the same continuity as the games is because it would make a mangle out of the Fnaf lore. The game lore is already complicated enough as it is. If everything in the books are canon, then that would mean that Fazbear Entertainment was picked up as soon as the Fnaf 6 fire happened and the company was already making progress to shut down as there are multiple Fazbear locations throughout all of America. It would mean that Elenor is still around and may have some involvement of what’s happening now. And Afton would have to go from Hedorah rabbit falling apart in a lake to Glitchtrap, which is much more confusing than him just going from trapped soul in UCN to haunted digital virus.
Glitchtrap is not afton Fnaf silver eyes trilogy is only book aren't canon games Fazbear frights some stories canon games and some not Tales from the pizzaplex full canon
1. FNaF lore has been a mess since 4. 2. Not every Frights story is canon, and the stitchline events all showcase abandoned fazbear locations iirc 3. Glitchtrap isn't Afton
@@storytellernerd Did you read my second comment? ALL books are canon, but whether or not you believe they're in the same continuity, that's your choice at this point since it isn't clear if they are, that's literally what Rye Toast explained here. I don't even know why people are getting canon and continuity mixed up in the first place. Matpat explained the difference ears ago, literally in the days of Sister Location. Yes Fnaf lore has been a mess for a long time but that's not an excuse to shove the books into everything and make it 10x worse. Afton himself needs to be involved in Glitchtrap's identity in some way becuase Mimic - Afton = Glitchtrap/Burntrap has many holes that people just don't want to acknowledge for some reason and heavily flawed.
@GhostRose6500 fine, stitchline (epilogues and stories directly tied to them) are the only things from fazbear frights connected into the games' continuity. That's your opinion, I think it doesn't affect literally anything, it's all opinion based. Its implied the Mimic saw the MCI (likely due to the bots being mass produced). So a mimicking bot sees a yellow rabbit do bad things. So a mimic bot's programming wants to Mimic afton. In Help Wanted, A bot's programming is scanned into the VR game, causing Glitchtrap. A yellow rabbit that does bad things within the VR game. Almost like they're the same thing 🤯 The Mimic is described in the books to look strikingly similar to how Burntrap looks, minus the rabbit costume, that can easily be explained by Vanny making a costume for it.
4 a long while, I’ve had a distrust of the fnaf reality. The themes seem more important than the logic. & it makes me think that the lore & continuity is designed less important than the messages. It’s like fnaf’s continuity doesn’t matter. But the community’s collective interest on fnaf transcends the story’s intent so far that it doesn’t matter that it probably doesn’t matter. Being confused is more important than learning about the cycle of pain.
I wish more people looked into these books and judged them on their own rather than just taking things to apply into the game timeline, there's a lot of stuff I hear about them that sounds really cool, actually pretty scary and even cohesive. I
Cassidy is the Golden princess golden Freddy there old man red king old man Consequences giving golden Freddy cassidy princess the golden sword in princess quest Cassidy was springlock Cassidy is Vengeful
Book Theory: Is Coils the Birthday Clown a book stand in for the puppet? I mean, they do look very different but the Ultimate Guide says that it seems like he might have security capabilities for trying to save the character that dies in the end of his story (spoiler warning). This parralels with the story of the Security Puppet trying to save Charlie in its mini game.
Some stories can be parallel or explains things But stitchwraith stories only canon games Stitchwraith literally explains who William victim 7 and what happened to William after fire
can i say something crazy??? what if cassidy = crying child = andrew AND jake = vengeful spirit??????? cc died the same way andrew has. but also the same way jake has, if we think about it. the security logbook also shows a mirror & also the clue to cassidy is given thru altered text. just putting that out there this is probably VERY wrong lmao
Tbh that kinda makes sense. The crying child died due to a head injury and Jake died due to a head injury, Cassidy died due to William Afton and Andrew died due to William Afton
What if Golden Freddy doesnt operate right because if Afton really did spring lock his child in a last attempt to save him, he wouldnt just be watching it. I imagine he'd be crying and balling his eyes over his failure and his son being gone forever. He would have charged Golden Freddy with his Agony, like how Edwin does to the mimic. The twitching and weird hauntings are a side effect of the two. A possibility. Like how the books show us different things can happen, but what combination was it.
I think there's more than one person talking through the psychic friend fredbear and that fnaf world was hinting this as well as the security log book. 2 ppl are talking to crying child.
A channel already made this exact conclusion their name is Sir squawks the video was updated October 12 2023 and titled: (Cassidy the spirit behind everything in fnaf) personally I don't think rye toast would steal content he probably doesn't even know his channel exists but I wanted to bring it up cuz it seems like he made it first and his channel is small
@@Kaju_Reyiz basically after cc was bitted and died in the hospital, his memories/pieces were shattered, so the fnaf 4 minigames would be modified memories, so cassidy is in the fredbear plush and so is the yellow eyes from fnaf world intro, she's helping cc to find his memories
Off topic, but what if Cassie was already somewhat possessed by Glitchtrap before going to the ruined Pizzaplex? She says that the Nightmareione plush was from that vr game, which means she could've played it. It could also explain how Grimic messaged her
I've just noticed something what if princess Quest is Cassidy traversing through Vanessa's mind after glitchtrap infected her. I get it it makes no sense but in reality it does in more ways than 1. Some common knowledge is that springtrap/William was turnt into glitchtrap by putting spring Bonnie's chip into the video game and this happens after the events of fnaf 6 . And what happens after fnaf 6 Cassidy tortured William by entering his mind what if this caused Cassidy to also be transferred into the game and when glitchtrap infected Vanessa with his virus Cassidy went along with the virus to protect her. What helps with this theory is in fnaf ar when Vanessa writes those weird messages. I think that's Cassidy fighting back but loses control this is what happens in pq1 and when we continue as Gregory in the other pq games we awaken Cassidy to fight back again and break Vanessa free. But since that's not the real ending I assume during hw 2 we awaken Cassidy with the other pq game and in the ending it's Cassidy controling Vanessa instead
I still wish someone would talk about William Afton's first death before the springlock failure. For him to be purple like Mike was after he got scooped. Maybe he injected himself with remnant using the scooper.
Now the only thing with the crying child I'm confused by is Well it's two things One why the Fredbear plush and not gold Bonnie (if that's what it's originally named) I mean the bunny was what his father was associated with, and the Fredbear was Henry usually Unless maybe crying child liked it more and William didn't want him picking up on that it's him talking through the plush? Or was it even William... 🤔 Then there's Mike, why is the crying child so pale compared to him Was he just sickly pale or was their mother's different? I mean it's possible to have mixed kids be different skin tons sure but that seems intentional, it's fnaf everything is intentional. Yeah it can be explained away but I'm still curious about it. Does it have lore importance or is it just a random tibit that doesn't mean anything in the long run 🤷
Love ya Rye but seeing as things are going, I honestly think that CassidyTOYSHNK is slowly becoming with the likes of Mikehell, Miketrap, and Dream Theory. There is no way to parallel Andrew/Cassidy without blatantly cherry-picking what's parallel and what's not. Andrew is a 6th victim that doesn't possess anything, and is directly attached to William. Besides pre-supposing that Cassidy is vengeful (reminder, she's never been shown as more vengeful than the others). There is absolutely nothing that connects them. We literally see the difference between them with the logbook and how Andrew treats jake. Cassidy is nice and caring, Andrew is a mean and rude brat. Whenever the vengeful SPIRIT, not the suit, not the animatronic, not a faz coin, the SPIRIT is referenced, it is a he. Cassidy has shown twice to be a girl. With the novels and the logbook showing an illustration of the Puppet giving Cass a cake at happiest day. Best Wishes
@docrilas there's a really good theory (one i believe), called UCNdissent, basically it goes as Andrew is the vengeful spirit, but Cassidy comes in to try and persuade him to rest. Andrew refuses, Cassidy eventually gets to OMC's lake, and drowns, or rests. The GF stuff is her presence (and the twitching scene might have another meaning, unrelated to UCN tho)
@@storytellernerd ucnduo is a good theory but if it's true,why Ackermann never talks about an 3th soul in Afton's body?why we never see an alligator in ucn?
What if the stories are so similar... It reminds me of when people tell stories but only change the names... What if the names are the only absolute truth and all the details have been changed abit? Idk just something that I've noticed with all these stories. Seems they're all different but they are almost parallels for characters that we don't have the names of
The stitch wraith's mask..... would be on its head. The head of golden freddy is what crunched the crying child. While cassidy would've been stuffed in golden freddy in some form.... Inside of it. Like a heart.
@Sonicmid A lot of this is wrong but I don’t really care to argue, I do want to point out to you that using evidence like “Scott said Matpat was right about his FNaF 2 theory” and “FNaF 1 was meant to be a standalone game” are really weak points because it’s clear that this series has evolved beyond its original intentions. Sure, in FNaF 1 and 2 and maybe even up until 4 there was meant to be one spirit, but things easily could have changed Also, honestly thinking FNaF only has 1 retcon is kinda silly because I could think of like 3 off the top of my head
@Sonicmid You seem really passionate about proving interpretations wrong for someone pretending they respect different opinions. The fnaf lore is a mess that isnt meant to be solved anymore. Let people piece together their own puzzle.
@@ma_cherri They sadly seem to be known for doing this often, both on here and twitter, I've been watching the community as a whole for a while now and they along with several others (zain, gold, vhs, AB, etc) refuse to be mindful of other interpretations of the lore and insist their theories and beliefs are 100% canon and are true, when at best they are headcanons that we don't have confirmation of yet. They shove their theories and interpretations down other people's throats, but as soon as someone else, someone popular especially, has an interpretation that goes against their beliefs, they get aggressive or pushy about it, and then have to absolutely debunk it at all costs. I love this community dearly, but as I said a bit ago and will say again, people need to stop being aggressive and pushy onto others for their theories and interpretations, even if they don't believe in them. Hell I don't believe in StitchlineGames, or that Andrew even exists in the games, but I at least understand and respect those theories, even though I don't believe in them. This community would be looked at so much more favorably if people just were more accepting, but sadly the most vocal of the community are those that double down and refuse to see other interpretations.
@Sonicmid This isnt fun, that person was just speculating and sharing ideas. Youre turning down every idea that isnt yours just to repeat your own theories. Thats not even debating youre just shoving things down peoples throats
The book movie games are Separate individual own different Continuities au worlds Main Canon original game au world main lore story fnaf Fnaf Book au world Fnaf Movie au World Also there 3 william afton from 3 different Separate individual au world 1 main canon original game au william afton 2 fnaf book au william dave miller 3 fnaf movie au william Steve raglan Cassidy is princess golden Freddy cassidy Because in the files The princess was going to be named cassidy but they changed it to princess Also there old man Consequences red king old man giving golden Freddy cassidy princess the golden sword to battle fight against glichtrap burntrap william in princess quest game
Isn't there a Fetch arcade game in Security Breach? That would inply either: -1: The Frights Books happen in some way in the games -2: [my pet idea], FazProp: The Fazbear Frights book series [and potentially the Tales books as well] are an in-universe novel series, sold at or released around the opening of the in-universe Fazbear's Fright [the actual Horror attraction FNaF3 was set in]]. This takes the rogue indie dev plotline and runs with it, assuming Fazbear inc would do all they can to both profit off of and misdirect serious inquiries about, the Fazbear Tragedies. -3, the least palatable one but easiest to believe IRL because, Scott didn't make the games: all the arcade cabinets that cannot be played are ONLY Easter Eggs and mean nothing, because fanservice and corporate BS.
@@docrilas I am still unsure of how to handle the Charlie trilogy in my FazProp hypothesis. It is based on the story Steel Wool is trying to tell, as opposed to the story Scott, for the most part, is done telling. Under FazProp: -the Office, Sim, and any other sections of FNAF1-6 are in-universe video games made by Fazbear inc to both profit and misdirect investigations from the actual tragedies [over a dozen dead kids, more if you count the book kids] that happened between 1983 and 1993, a decade of destruction. -anything in the Steel Wool games happen exactly as advertised [retconning anything in 1-6 because they are confirmed in-universe games -Fazbear's Fright [the location of FNaF3, possibly without the supernatural stuff] was an in-universe attraction, FNAF3 and Fazbear Frights were tie-in merch. Frights was probably a comic series that you got from weekly visits [like a happy meal toy] -Freddy Fazbear's Pizza Sim, specifically the non-office parts where you just build a pizzeria, is also an in-universe game. It is implied that the office sections may have been a game as well since there are ScrapTrap and Scrap Baby themed games and merch. -Tales from the Pizzaplex might also be weekly comics from the pizzaplex Based on the evidence I am using to say the Frights and Tales stuff are in-universe fiction, the Novels might also be, seeing the Ella and Theodore references. I am erring towards the 8-bit minigames being haunted depictions of what actually happened since many are also arcade cabinets in SB and other games, but not to my knowledge in the HW remakes [I know the IRL reason is they either couldn't or didn't want to code 8-bit VR games]. I am on the fence about the Mimic and Stitchwraith epilogues [and their directly related stories] since another lynchpin of this theory is the nested Parallels in each set of stories -Blob/Tangle/Molten Freddy/Stitchwraith/Ennard/Agony Trash Rabbit -Edwin/Henry -Silver Eyes Charlie/David -Andrew/Cassidy -Baby/Elanor -Jake/Crying Child/Evan/Rory -Charlotte Emily/Save Him-her daughter of HRY223 [as neither Henry nor Charlie are technically mentioned directly by name in the games except CharlieDoor which, was that patched out with Cassidy?] -Glitchtrap/Mimic1. This is a big one, since we meet what we call Glitchtrap/Malhare is technically a character on an arcade cabinet Glitchy Maze. so it might just be the Mimic1 program
Hey... Does that weird, evil amalgamation of agony infused stuff controlled by William Afton kinda remind anyone else of the Tangle...? Like, after it ate burntrap, we were kinda theorizing that William might've taken control of it, so... Um... Thoughts? ;-;
I'm choosing to believe that Stitchline games is real solely because of the fact that I really don't like the Vengeful Spirit as a character. They are this ultimate spirit of vengeance. They are Willam Afton's worst nightmare. And their lore is...... he killed them a hit worse than the other kids he murdered. No personal connection. No actual motive. Just maybe a non descript worse death. In my opinion, the story is way more compelling if the Crying Child is the Vengeful Spirit. The weakest, saddest character morphed into a vicious monster when his brother (accidentally) kills him. I think it also leads to a more compelling UCM as well. If it's William's he'll, his son has finally realized who the real monster was and is punishing him for it. If you're a Michael UCM believer, then you have Michael trapped in a hell of his own making by the brother that he killed. I think either of those is more interesting than it just being William being haunted by a nameless child that we've never even seen on screen.
@Mimi_k1 It's probably not the way it has gone but how much does CC actually say in the book to make any conclusions about him? I'm not super familiar with it.
@@donniejefferson9554 oh yeah take my words with like a teaspoon of salt cause I've watched theory videos and posts and in all of them they say C.C acts timid in the logbook I actually haven't read it myself.(also I'd like you to know I have nothing against your opinion and actually agree on the fact that I think it would be more compelling if C.C was the vengeful spirit)
Lord have mercy for those who venture into this comment section.
thanks bro
Convenient this happens to be the top comment for me. I’m not sure what the rest of the comments look like but maybe this should be pinned just in case
Nah, I'm sure it's fine *puts on helmet and body armor*
@@SorowFame: LMAO same
Weak I put on a spring lock suit
Seeing simon as TBH is going to permanently shift my view of that story that face next to a boy dying is such a wild confliction
Lmaoooo sorry I couldn't help myself
There is only one true answer to the title question:
THE MIMIC
MIMIC SWEEP
fair but, this implies that we've seen the actual mechanism for springlocks, most we've gotten to actually seeing the parts that actually do the "springlocking" are the lil things we'd click in the sisterlocation minigame, which was inside the suit, meaning we have no idea if the mimic in the games does have springlocks like the book mimic@Sonicmid
@@soapbubs59yes he does
@Sonicmid there is no proof in the games that the mimics legs are springlocks, yes we do see them, but we have no idea what the mechanism looks like in tge games outside of the minigame
@@soapbubs59 if you delete the springlock off of the model you'll see how the legs has pressure in some parts of his legs like if springlocks were there
Tbh for these past few days I've been really thinking about this topic, because I've realized that a lot of the characters we've known by name, we just took those names from the books, and that really messes with my brain. 😭🙏
Yeah, the only reason we have william afton is because of fnaf six after the fact, Henry from big implication and the spoken names otherwise, there are just a lot of names we as a collective fan base assume are the names because of there only being parallels such as Charlie.
@@mrhalfsaid1389there’s also the “Mr. Afton” from sister location. Think that game and the Silver Eyes came out around the same time.
@@mrhalfsaid1389 Afton is mentioned in sister location. We never seen Henry called by name in the games tho. Closest thing is a recording with ‘HRY’ in the title, but that couldve just as easily been Harry
@@themoocow7718 some how it’s Michael Afton grown up and that’s why sister location looks so futuristic
@@themoocow7718In the credits of fnaf 6 William is mentioned
So some things about Eleanor I wanted to clear up that you mentioned but not really fully or just got kinda wrong:
- In to be beautiful Eleanor doesn't give Sarah the pendant she instead creates a new one for her, this is also pretty clear with Jessica having one in Frailty, meaning that Eleanor was able to basically mass produce these by using her agony and remnant.
- She's capable of all of the things you've mentioned before she entered her form in epilouge 10 as a big plot point in the proior stingers is that she's been giving these memories to Larson ever since the fight with the Agony/Miscreation or whatever you want to call it.
- Eleanor doesn't want to be a creature made of agony and remnant she already IS, she's simply consuming as much as she possibly can to gain more power as "Eleanor" isn't the doll animatronic instead it's the agony creature that's using it as a physical body.
- Also a less major thing is the whole Agony thing, she's not helping she's literally creating, Afton's far too weak to do such a thing as Jake says, hell he calls him harmless however Eleanor's agony was able to supercharge him enough to fight Jake and Andrew and then Larson, she's literally using Afton as her cover up for being the bad guy. (proof of this is basically everything Jake says about the Agony and the Agony slowly dying off even before the Puppet had attacked it)
:3 i'm an Eleanor nerd so here
Cool!
Never read any of them, but it lines up with what I heard from other UA-camrs.
I would really love to find out what happens if she becomes whole.
@@StephDilimia world suffering obviously! The more agony the better!
Friend is just speaking peak
6:37 My name is uncommon enough that whenever I hear it used it jumpscares me because I never expect it to be used to refer to someone other than me. Like the only person I've known in real life named Eleanor is my great-grandmother, who I was named after.
Yea I always thought that most of the book characters aren’t in the games but supposed to match up with the games
Turns out his cat was cursed with agony and will shed mind bendingly massive amounts of fur XD
I'm gonna be honest the next game better actually help out with the lore a lot cuz nothing is really getting discovered anymore and no answer's have been given to the past so it feels like we've been stuck in place for YEARS now.
Yea as much as I really do like this wave of fnaf theorists looking back at the lore in a more narrative sense is cool and it’s good to have more updated vids about fnaf lore, but I agree the games have basically covered one story which is cool but I agree we need some actual lore advancement.
@@ashtrroI’d agree,I’ve been with these games since I was 8 or 9 and I love the way the story is told but at this point I do feel like it’s gotten so big that we need to confirm things so that things can feel like they did when the lore was relatively small so we can feel like we’re actually making progress. Into The Pit (the next game) is going to about time travel so it seems likely that older mysteries will be put to bed so newer mysteries can take centre stage
Yes! I can’t just handle new characters and new story lines constantly
@@Imtrying_girlI would be fine with new character and storyline if it wasn't basically a new half finished (at best) one each game.
Next game about into the pit =one of stories connected to stitchwraith
I also think the stitchwraith story is supposed to tell us that both CC and Cassidy are in golden freddy.
@Sonicmid dude's the doom slayer in this comment section (i agree tho)
CC possessing Golden Freddy breaks FNaF's possession laws
@SonicmidMany points against this
1. Continuities can be different. Ex: Puppet doesn't exist in the Silver Eyes Trilogy.
2. Scott said Mat got mostly everything right also the story got expanded after 3 so that's not good evidence.
3. A lot of people are shifting over to Crying Child possessing the Fredbear Plush not Golden Freddy directly. Two possessed objects, including one being a walkie talkie, occupying one thing is supported by Stitchline.
4. Golden Freddy technically speaking is still one thing even if it's 2 souls.
5. We have no evidence that Crying Child wants to stop William.
6. He's with Michael based on the security logbook.
7. Parallel is defined as "a person or thing that is similar or analogous to another" Analogous is defined as "comparable in certain respects, typically in a way which makes clearer the nature of the things compared". There is no reason they can't be parallels.
8. Redundant see point 2.
9. How does Fnaf World imply that?
10. Stitchwrath and Golden Freddy aren't meant to be the same. Just some concepts.
11. One eye doesn't kill the theory. It could imply CC moved on a Cassidy didn't.
12. If CC possesses the Fredbear Plush this doesn't matter. Also Cassidy being more vengeful would also be a reason to have more control.
13. Happiest Day is literally CC minigame flipped how are you gonna argue it's for Cassidy. We don't even know if it was Cassidy birthday when they died.
Some points of my own:
14. The Bow Tie theory also supports two souls.
15. Why would Golden Freddy say It's Me to Micheal if it was only Cassidy?
16. Security Logbook also proves the two are connected in someway.
@Sonicmidjake and cc talk to a plush that is being controlled by their dad its too obvious they're supposed to be parallels
@Sonicmid More points against this
1. Again not nessissarily true. Whole characters don't exist across certain continuities.
2. Scott confirmed he didn't have the full story though out till FNAF 4. So even if Golden Freddy had one soul at the time, he can still have two as of 4. Scott's narrative wasn't finished during FNAF 1-3.
3. The game literally tells us the plushes were him friends and them being friends isn't a rule for possession.
4. Molten Freddy is supposedly 5 things in 1, not nessissarily 5 souls in 1. As we know Molten Freddy has more then 5 souls. Also CC likely isn't even in Molten Freddy by Freddie Plush Theory anyway.
5. Actually we do. The Fredbear Plush is literally labeled as Possessed.
6. You just contacted yourself with that point. If the stuff in it is canon then even if the physical book isn't, everything the logbook tells us still is. Also the logbook helps explain how the Nightmare Animatronics exist in Help Wanted.
7. Reusing concepts in the story and parallels can coexist.
8. Golden Freddy having one or multiple souls was never established. If anything 3 shows he has two. And again the narrative wasn't finished till FNAF 4.
9. Saying glitchbear is William is a wild take. Also him having contact proves nothing.
10. The similarly comes in the way they came to exist not the powers.
11. Gonna need more elaboration cause I have no idea what you are trying to say.
12. What evidence is there that the Plush isn't real? Also there is no evidence that Andrew exists in the games so he isn't vengeful.
13.1 Narrative wasn't finished till 4,
13.2 No proof that Cassidy is the Logbook girl,
13.3 FNAF World sets up the Happiest Day for Bite Victim/CC,
13.4 Vr line up and secret minigames also work for CC
14. Saying minigame spirits aren't accurate is wild considering most of the lore coming from them. Also Bowtie theory shows the Fredbear and purple is represented by CC, and Golden Freddy and Black is represented Cassidy.
15. That point makes no sense.
16. Again what are you talking about?
Btw, look into the equigroomer brush to help with the shedding. Does wonders for removing loose fur and it’s the only thing that works on my cat.
I find it kinda interesting that a repeated theme in these stories is characters trying to collect a LOT of agony. The stitchwraith wants to collect as many agony infested things as possible to try and get rid of them. William Afton uses all that agony to become the agony amalgamation. Dr. Phineas Taggart was collecting
items with agony to try and bring the stitchwraith to life. Eleanor wants to collect agony to try and become a complete agony being. Throughout these stories, characters are trying to collect as much agony as they possibly can. Could this be connected to Afton's search for remnant? Idk just something I thought of while watching this video. What are y'all's thoughts?
Nitpick: Eleanor is _already_ an Agony being, she just wants _more._
@@syweb2 My bad.
Also, what Henry is doing in fnaf6. Trying to get everything together in one place.
@@GendoRokabundi Ooh! Good point, I didn't think of that!
The simon doll being a parallel to the fredbear plush is such an obvious hint at jake being the stand-in for the crying child, i recently started doubting that frights wasn't canon but this convinced me again that it's a parallel to the games and not part of the games
@Sonicmid they both died to a problem with their heads, went to a hospital, and unknowingly talked to their fathers through a doll/plush before haunting an animatronic with another spirit, just because their lives isn't the exact same means nothing, it's like telling me william from the movie isn't the same as william from the games just because they didn't have the exact same life, they're the same character just in different timelines
@Sonicmid a BRAIN cancer and the other got BRAIN damage from an animatronic bite, i never said they have the same personality just that jake is a parallel to the crying child
@SonicmidObjectively incorrect. It's a very clear parallel.
Jake and c.c
Jake never has older brother who bully him and put his head to fredbear
Jake has good dad and his mother dies jake dies by cancer
Jake is so different c.c personality
@@darktrapv.1384 i NEVER sais their personalitied were the same
Twitter is going to kill you for this one 💀 that's how I know its a good theory!
yess
yeah quite a bit of twitter isnt happy with this, (there was also a bit of cope with a couple of people thinking the jake part of the vdieo was going to be that jake is canon to the games)
and they did also doyjaaan my good man
20:52 So, following that logic, Afton's death in the lake wouldn't be the end of this one, but rather a parallel to the Springlock failure from the games, the movie, and the novel trilogy.
In the other three timelines, Afton dies by being crushed by the springs and choking on his blood, all because the souls of the 5 children were chasing him. In Frights, Afton is chased by Charlie, and dies by being torn apart and drowned in a lake.
It would make sense to me that this death of the lake was a parallel to the Springlock fault.
This sounds like it fits well with Dual Process Theory's theory that CC is Cassidy.
iirc golden freddy is cc and cassidy
so technically correct, but not really
@jademonass2954 you recalled wrong
Actually, I would appreciate it if someone could explain the Dual Process' explanation as to why Golden Freddy has two glowing eyes in the bad ending. If they claim Cassidy is the only spirit within Golden Freddy, what is their justification? I tried to relisten to that part of the video, but I didn't get it. I really liked their theory, but at this point, I have to assume there is a second spirit and they were mistaken on that particular point. Can someone explain that part, so that I understand the theory better?
@Sonicmid the books do not tell the events of the games' universe. there are obvious differences between the books and games, although they can be used to figure out certain details. CC not being in the books doesnt mean anything
@@hailey813 They explained that since the 6 spirits in the Happiest Day minigame include the Puppet along with the 5 masks from the FNAF 3 endings, and the Puppet in FNAF 6 is trapped within Lefty, who has only a single golden eye on the left side, the left light within Golden Freddy in that ending actually represents Charlotte’s spirit. If this is true, it’s probably just a workaround for Scott to make the lore fit the old games since he’s changed the lore over time.
I want to recommend Dual Process Theory's video. Its 2 hours long, and I think they make a good argument even if I disagrer with one of their majour arguments.
I do however, think they might be onto something with their idea that Michael is the vengeful spirit.
On a semi-related note, is anyone else disatisfied with the name code in the logbook?
I dont have it myself, but ever since Cassidy was first discovered Ive had doubts as to whether weve actually solved it.
@Sonicmid Why are we talking about Princess Quest?
@Sonicmid LOL, nah. I've also been iffy about the Princess. I do think it has something to do with Vanny, but I also don't think we are entirely on the right track.
It’s such a Fazbear Entertainment move to take a bunch of merchandise that were covered in guts and ooze and still put it on store shelves.
It's crazy that the Fazbear books introduced an actual agony demon with seemingly no ties to Afton or any other pre-existing characters, then refused to elaborate on her origins.
@@Oreo-kv4gcAll of that is incorrect...
@Sonicmid
I see you in comment telling other people their Wrong to
@@Oreo-kv4gc Cause you are lmfao.
@@StephDilimia you don't have to be rude
@@Oreo-kv4gc Where is the "rude"...?
I'm only about a minute into the video but I need to say your cats are so SO sweet. You can tell how much they love you. I love when I see them in your videos, despite how distracting their adorableness is! It's a great trick to get me to watch your videos twice: second time for the lore, first time for the cats! Please give them a pat for me
How is it that there is 1 character that is linked to the game always being left out of these theories? I am talking about Suzie, yes her story doesn't have any connection to the SIthwrath but it does have a big impact on the game it self and goes into who she died and became Chica. It is the 4th book Step Closer in the chapter Coming Home where we are introduced to her. We also learn that she had a sister and a mother who are both burdened with the death of Suzy who is still with them during the day even though they do not see her, since she is only there in spirit. And she was looking for a doll that her and her sister have fought over. It is a very touching story and probably one of my fav out of those stories. Why isn't any one even mentions her?
Susie is a very overlooked character that is importsnt to the lore.
She was the star of fnaf6, literally buying and play testing the fruity maze game till she breaks it in utterly unhinged rage, with William in the background to witness it.
Considering how Susie resembles William’s Elizabeth, the fnaf4 girl’s bed room seems to be a fruity maze reference, and has a doll that is central to her (crying child and William’s Fredbear plushy). It’s possible her dad is Willy and that’s why he’s suddenly not in the picture anymore after the incident.
One thing that I considered that’s absolutely horrible is that game William is very different from the movies and novels based on the rumors, but Henry framed him for murder and an agony monster used these rumors to manifest himself into a icon of terror (spring Bonnie). It makes a lot of sense when fnaf2 and fnaf3 shows us that the human killer never worn a costume to perform five murders in one day (“Foxy Go go go”) and the spring bonnie costume itself had to be haunted because it was completely unwearable for even Fazbear’s low standards (fnaf3 tapes). So if the killer was suited, he wouldn’t be wearing spring Bonnie.
I especially considered this possibility after Into the Pit has “Oswald’s dad” (an imposter) turned Oswald into the foxy the pirate victim.
Great video Rye !
I've always used Frights as a conceptual aid to help unravelling the lore of games and I think it's really the right way to go.
Its always a good day when the Toast posts
please look at the cat in 2:13
Eleanor, as a father's child being passed the torch from them, continues on after William was drowned... Being basically the child of his crimes...
I've always been a huge book lover and getting into FNAF and finding out they had books had me absolutely going insane. I read the entire Silver Eyes Series and it was an obsession that still pops up sometimes, and then I read all the Fazbear Frights books. All of them. Some of them, some of them still keep me awake at night.
5:09 Rye Toast says the One Piece is REAL
A lot of putting pieces back together or ripping things that are whole into pieces throughout this story. I feel like that's how we beat the bad guys in this series. Uniting the victims or even uniting the pieces of Afton so you can kill the vessel
13:56 LMAO I couldn't help but notice that you used the Poppy Playtime battery XD
Yeah. Andrew and Jake sound like Cassidy and CC, Golden Freddy...
Drowning in a red lake did always sound like drowning in blood to me.
Andrew and jake sound nothing to cassidy and c.c
Andrew only sound vengeful spirit =golden freddy movie
Little boy blonde hair and blue eyes
Not cassidy who little girl black long hair who look nothing Andrew and vengeful spirit look
@@killerman3715: I was talking about the way they act, not look. I would never do it that way. It's stupid.
This was a great theory, especially since I haven't had time to read the books!
Couldn't, on the flipside, the books be the accurate events of the early FNAF games, if Scott (or what his name is in the books as the "rogue indie developer" / Someone who was hired by Fazbear secretly to make the first three games while being tortured by illusion discs) made the first three games with limited information on Fazbear's history? It seems like his character knew that there were these tragedies from internet rumours, or newspaper articles, but probably didn't know Cassidy's name like he doesn't know Crying Child's name. Maybe the unreliable narrator of the first few games explains the inconsistencies in names. Because Scott's in-universe character was perhaps wrong.
The Cassidy theory is the best theory of my life!
Hard to tell, because if the Silver Eyes book trilogy taught us anything, it's that some things in the books should be taken with a grain of salt.
I've always wondered if there was a connection between the vengeful spirit in an alligator mask, and how full of rage and destruction Monty is. Especially towards the "rabbit" animatronic.
Old man consequence is alligator
10:53 My brother did what!?!
They should honestly make a fnaf 2d animated series for adults/young adults and teens that combines lore elements from the games (including spin offs and perhaps fan games), books (silver eyes trilogy and fazbear frights but with some of the stories rewritten better, and of course tales from the pizzaplex), and movies (including movies that are inspired by fnaf), and also adding new lore elements and concepts for surprises and new stuff, I imagine the artstyle being the same as either invincible or my adventures with Superman.
characters I would add from the books.
1. Sticthwraith (Jake and Andrew)
2. Larson
3. Sammy Emily
4. Aunt Jen
5. John
6. Jessica
7. Marla
8. Jason
9. Lamar
10. Carlton
11. Clay
12. Oswald
13. Sarah
14. Millie
15. Eleanor (I’m personally under the belief that Eleanor is a animatronic monster made with the agony of Elizabeth afton/circus baby.
P-S: I would also rewrite the twisted ones and fourth closet as well as certain fazbear frights stories such as into the flesh, he told me everything and the puppet carver.
Eleanor is just pure evil lol, she is agony
I love this theory! The red lake makes so much sense for drowning in your own blood. And of course William Afton in the Silver Eyes knows what it's like to die in a springlock suit, because that's how he learned. By killing Cassidy in such a violent way, it caused the vengeful spirit's agony to inhabit it. Also, the crying child could be the second spirit in Golden Freddy, since it's probably an original springlock suit along with Golden Bonnie/Springtrap. Makes sense CC's head getting crushed in GF/Fredbear's mouth in FNaF 4 could be grounds for him possessing the suit, as well. Question is, which death came first, Cassidy or CC?
C.c get dies inside hospita after his head get damaged by fredbear is not golden freddy
Yes fredbear fnaf 4 is not golden freddy fnaf 1
Spirit can possessed next to him
Jake possessed his plush
Charlie possessed puppet
Cassidy and missing kids possessed animatronic they stuck in
The Eleanor description makes it seem like remnant even a small piece of it is much more powerful than agony. But perhaps fragile to outside influence. Aka fire.
Wow, I never thought about Cassidy/Whoever the true vengeful spirit is, dying by drowning in their own blood in the suit. That makes so much sense to what we see in the games, too. Slowly, things are coming together in little ways.
This is a really good explanation for why the Vengeful Spirit is so vengeful.
to be honest i never thought people consider books directly canon of the games
books are more like a paralel universe where scott can go insane and do whatever he wants with elements of fnaf without messing up the game lore
like 90% of characters dont exist but with that characters scott do random things that tells story of what main characters are about to or what they did
kinda like this.
book: once upon a time a hero lived and after years of training the hero beat the monster
game: kid set his dad on fire
book2:be carefull its the evil wizard
game2: afton again.....really?
book3: hero does one last super epic battles with demon king
game3: miceal - dad do me a favor and *DUCKİNG DİE!'*
technically both get to same outcome just other adds more decorative,random,weird things to it, is hero beat the villian yes but instead of hero its micheal and instead of monster its afton
probably this what scott meant by "canon in their own way" i forgot tweet or wherever he writed but this is basicly what he siad
thats so good matpat made a theory abt what you talked abt a while ago abt andrew and jake just showing that two spirits can possess one animatronic which could be crying child and vengeful spirit in golden freddy but i think thats a good way because it talks abt the one you should not have killed and making him seem different from the others cause the others seem like they prob got strangled or knifed to death but vengeful spirit seems more angry than the others and him making him suffer more than the others would make sense why he is more mad and it could also makes sense on why golden freddy cant move or speak because theres no endo skeleton in golden freddy cause the vengeful spirit body is in it and idk how the design is but there may not be a voice box in it while someone is in it idk though great theory
I don’t think the Vengeful Spirit debate is about “Who is Golden Freddy?” I think it’s just about who the kid face is. No matter whether the books are parallels or not, it’s implied that the Vengeful Spirit is attached to William and has been since he got springlocked, keeping him alive ever since with the end goal of making him suffer. KidFace appears all over the place in UCN, in vents, doorways, even the game over screen, but Golden Freddy only appears if you crank up his AI value. Since the “He” mentioned in UCN seems to be referring to KidFace and not Golden Freddy, and Cassidy seems to be a girl, it probably isn’t Cassidy who’s keeping William alive. And Cassidy and TOYSHK don’t even really line up personality wise. Cassidy seems to be a helpful spirit who wants Afton to die, but TOYSHK seems to be a noncooperative spirit who wants to keep William alive in order to torture him.
TLDR: TOYSHK isn’t Golden Freddy or Cassidy, he’s probably something else even if the Frights books are just parallels.
@Sonicmid I wholeheartedly agree, but I’m just tryna appeal to FrightsParallels believers. I feel like CassidyTOYSHK is genuinely the only part of this that could be considered a misconception
Based.
Honestly with Twinsouls, it's always possible that it's not just one person in Golden Freddy. Especially when we learn William was joyriding in secret. It's not out of reason a third kid to have either been in Golden Freddy or just been torturing William.
@Sonicmid So... who IS the Golden Freddy spirit?
It's never been stated Cassidy was a girl. In fact he's a boy in the Movie continuity.
always has been odd to me the adition of monty alligator animatronic and that one of the child in 8-bits had this mask before. But, how if monty killing bonnie is a sort of paralel to the kid with alligator mask killing afton, at the end william had a bonnie (springbonnie) costume.
So, going based off of the Andrew/Cassidy parallel, and the whole drowning in your own blood inside of a springlock suit thing, as well as assuming the Golden Duo thing to be somewhat correct, would this mean that William was intentionally killing before the Bite Victim was bitten, and then the Bite Victim went on to eventually possess the suit as well, whilst Cassidy also did? You'd also said that the kid with curly black hair was "further down, inside the springlock golden freddy suit." Could that also be a parallel to how Andrew couldn't see in the Stitchwraith? Dunno, good theory, though! :D
You even watch movie?
Golden freddy confirmed has one spirit
Spirit of Golden freddy he hints about knowing mike brother
Books literally confirmed spirit possessed next to him
Andrew possessed William
Jake his plush
Charlie possessed puppet
Missing kids possessed animatronics
C.c possessed fredbear plush
@@killerman3715 I have watched the movie, it is one of my favorite movies of all time, actually. I would like to remind you that the movie is not 100% to the games. And also, I know you might not like the line, but seriously, it IS just a theory! I'm just trying to help people's brains get running, while also sharing my own ideas at the same time.
One thing about Jake and CCs fathers;
When in the context of who they are/what they do;
While Jake's father is in a war, what if that is how William sees himself?
Being a soldier, in an evergoing war against those that caused his kid to suffer?
And Jake's father dying in the war...could be a child-friendly version told to him when William died?
(Whoever saw William in the safe rooms/was the one to decide them being walled in, was the one talking to Andrew, telling him his father is gone)
This isn't actually just a good defence for their parental figures, but as a bridge for them as well.
Because if this is the "timeline" of the two;
- CC gets bit
-Jake is diagnosed with Cancer, and in the hospital
-Both try to "continue" their lives, us seeing what CC did through the minigames is perhaps = Jake's adventures
After a while, knowing that the boys wont survive, they try to help them at least ease their suffering
But
-Jake's father died in the war, and thus he'll never return
-William gets springlocked, and as far as anyone learning that, would imagine him to die from it, especially once they seal up the saferoom;
[A stretch] and wants to tell Michael his dad won't return, and that he's too far for Michael to ever see again (Making sure he doesn't get the idea to go look for William.
Perhaps either to cover up for what they did,
what William became [his presumable mangled corpse]
Or maybe to just try to let the world move on from this evil.)
TLDR;
The differences in their father's demise, isn't a point against them being comparable/being a plot hole, but instead a bridge between them?
What if we are simply overthinking it and looking into the details that doesn't matter as much as we make them see?
- Kid gets hospitalized
- Dad communicates yo yhem through a toy
Trying to help them by providing at least letting them pretend to explore the world, even if its an impossible dream
- Kid gets worse - moving to hospice
- Dad disappear/wont br heard from again
- Kid dies in hospital
Presumable linked to their toy/animatronic's disappearance.
except William Afton is directly responsible for the death of the crying child/ his son, and has killed all 3 of his children himself with Elizabeth being the only one he murdered accidentally. The other 2 he did it intentionally, and 1 of them (the crying child) he did in front of his eldest child Michael in order to gain a follower by awakening Michael's serial killer mentality. That's why William Afton (while behind the remote controls to the springlock suit) closed springlock Freddy's mouth on the crying child's head at that exact moment. The apple didn't fall far from the tree with Michael... that is until he learned about remnant. That said Michael was a devoted follower of his father because he killed his brother in front of him.
day uh the next one of asking if rye has seen dual process theories' feature length fnaf theory, id love you to talk about it.
I was also gonna ask this, I'm happy so many people are bringing it up to Rye
Stupid idea. While listening to this I realized something, what if Crying Child is more parallel to Jake than we realize.
What if the events we see in FNAF4 are all things that happen are actually the crying Child experiencing them from bed. That the reason for the Fredbear plush following you isn't that it is everywhere, but hinting the crying Child isn't actually moving. The plush is guiding him through memories for some purpose.
Crying child and jake are so different
Survival logbook call Fredbear plush imagine friend
Cassidy ask if Fredbear plush still talk to him
Jake plush different
Jake possessed his plush then become stitchwraith
For anyone who wants to get more depth on Eleanor, I highly recommend NotRealNameNotAtAll's channel. She also covered the Stitchwraith. In my opinion, Andrew just TOYSHK from UCN and the Stitchwraith is just Golden Freddy but instead of Cassidy and the Crying Child, it's Andrew and Jake. I also like William Afton's Agony Blast fueling his ability to Always Come Back better than how they started keeping him around in the games before pivoting to The Mimic.
@Sonicmid I meant them being roommates ( suit mates, LMAO....) in the afterlife. Plus, one is a direct victim of Afton's and the other isn't.
Stitchwraith and golden freddy are so different
Stitchwraith endoskeleton and toy and fetch heart
Golden freddy just yellow freddy
Golden freddy confirmed movie and books Only possessed by one spirit
How people can be turned into street signs really caught me off guard
I’ve always thought that some of the characters in the book are supposed to be representations and I always thought that Cassidy death was something specific like being spring locked so yeah pretty solid theory
Y’know, a couple months back, I had been confused if Fnaf help wanted was based off of the Fnaf games from the developer, but if you pay attention, handunit refers the game as “the Freddy fazbear experience” and not Fnaf. Also, in UCN, toy Freddy plays five nights at Mr hugs, which could be the game to books are referring to, but that is still up for debate
I personally believe that
the frights books are written in-universe
by the new fazbear entertainment (LLC)
to cover up their dark past, just like Help Wanted.
(the reason for this is Sire Squawks)
17:56 damn, CC dosen't deserve more bullies x, D
Was that Simpsons hit and run in the backround? Also thank you for being one of the few agreeable people who see credence for books being canon because i thought i was alone in the boat of disagreeing but not being against it (it is painful to deal with hate when you aren't even fighting in the first place)
I love the part about Golden Freddy's twitching, this makes so much sense
It seems very likely to be canon, considering Springtrap twitches in the same way in the fnaf3 trailer, likely portraying Afton being springlocked
One of the reasons why I believe the books aren’t in the same continuity as the games is because it would make a mangle out of the Fnaf lore. The game lore is already complicated enough as it is. If everything in the books are canon, then that would mean that Fazbear Entertainment was picked up as soon as the Fnaf 6 fire happened and the company was already making progress to shut down as there are multiple Fazbear locations throughout all of America. It would mean that Elenor is still around and may have some involvement of what’s happening now. And Afton would have to go from Hedorah rabbit falling apart in a lake to Glitchtrap, which is much more confusing than him just going from trapped soul in UCN to haunted digital virus.
Glitchtrap is not afton
Fnaf silver eyes trilogy is only book aren't canon games
Fazbear frights some stories canon games and some not
Tales from the pizzaplex full canon
1. FNaF lore has been a mess since 4.
2. Not every Frights story is canon, and the stitchline events all showcase abandoned fazbear locations iirc
3. Glitchtrap isn't Afton
@@storytellernerd Did you read my second comment?
ALL books are canon, but whether or not you believe they're in the same continuity, that's your choice at this point since it isn't clear if they are, that's literally what Rye Toast explained here. I don't even know why people are getting canon and continuity mixed up in the first place. Matpat explained the difference ears ago, literally in the days of Sister Location.
Yes Fnaf lore has been a mess for a long time but that's not an excuse to shove the books into everything and make it 10x worse.
Afton himself needs to be involved in Glitchtrap's identity in some way becuase Mimic - Afton = Glitchtrap/Burntrap has many holes that people just don't want to acknowledge for some reason and heavily flawed.
@GhostRose6500 fine, stitchline (epilogues and stories directly tied to them) are the only things from fazbear frights connected into the games' continuity.
That's your opinion, I think it doesn't affect literally anything, it's all opinion based.
Its implied the Mimic saw the MCI (likely due to the bots being mass produced). So a mimicking bot sees a yellow rabbit do bad things. So a mimic bot's programming wants to Mimic afton.
In Help Wanted, A bot's programming is scanned into the VR game, causing Glitchtrap. A yellow rabbit that does bad things within the VR game. Almost like they're the same thing 🤯
The Mimic is described in the books to look strikingly similar to how Burntrap looks, minus the rabbit costume, that can easily be explained by Vanny making a costume for it.
@@storytellernerd mimic see William kill 5 people fnaf 2
Mimic see mci 1985 or mci 1987
4 a long while, I’ve had a distrust of the fnaf reality. The themes seem more important than the logic. & it makes me think that the lore & continuity is designed less important than the messages. It’s like fnaf’s continuity doesn’t matter. But the community’s collective interest on fnaf transcends the story’s intent so far that it doesn’t matter that it probably doesn’t matter. Being confused is more important than learning about the cycle of pain.
I wish more people looked into these books and judged them on their own rather than just taking things to apply into the game timeline, there's a lot of stuff I hear about them that sounds really cool, actually pretty scary and even cohesive. I
8:45 - 'with the one scientist that has a lot of remnant'
Me: DOCTOR TAGGART!
Rye: 'Dr Talbert'
Me: -_- oh (same difference)
😅
Dammit lol, their names are SO similar lol
Cassidy is the Golden princess golden Freddy there old man red king old man Consequences giving golden Freddy cassidy princess the golden sword in princess quest
Cassidy was springlock Cassidy is Vengeful
Cough cough… Sammy from the book trilogy… his existence would explain a concerning amount…
Book Theory: Is Coils the Birthday Clown a book stand in for the puppet? I mean, they do look very different but the Ultimate Guide says that it seems like he might have security capabilities for trying to save the character that dies in the end of his story (spoiler warning). This parralels with the story of the Security Puppet trying to save Charlie in its mini game.
Some stories can be parallel or explains things
But stitchwraith stories only canon games
Stitchwraith literally explains who William victim 7 and what happened to William after fire
rye keeping fnaf theorists fed while john finishes his full timeline video
What is the song at 1:03 ?
what video are they talking about at 6:04 ?? /genq I’ve been trying to find it and I can’t seem to
can i say something crazy??? what if cassidy = crying child = andrew AND jake = vengeful spirit??????? cc died the same way andrew has. but also the same way jake has, if we think about it. the security logbook also shows a mirror & also the clue to cassidy is given thru altered text. just putting that out there this is probably VERY wrong lmao
Tbh that kinda makes sense. The crying child died due to a head injury and Jake died due to a head injury, Cassidy died due to William Afton and Andrew died due to William Afton
@@PutitinasongalrightJake dies same sick
C.c dies because spring lock injury his head
@@Putitinasongalrightucn and into the pit
Mentioned there secret victim
Into the pit there little boy different 5 and ucn there 7 kid
@@darktrapv.1384 it probably wasn’t a spring lock injury, it probably was just fredbear biting down
You're doing great RyeToast ! ! ! :D
What if Golden Freddy doesnt operate right because if Afton really did spring lock his child in a last attempt to save him, he wouldnt just be watching it. I imagine he'd be crying and balling his eyes over his failure and his son being gone forever. He would have charged Golden Freddy with his Agony, like how Edwin does to the mimic. The twitching and weird hauntings are a side effect of the two. A possibility. Like how the books show us different things can happen, but what combination was it.
I believe this is where the blob comes in the big thing that the detective tries to kill
0:04 FNAF WORLD MENTIONED‼️‼️‼️WHAT THE FUCK IS A BAD RPG‼️‼️‼️‼️‼️‼️
congrats on 200k!!!
17:44 How did we arrive at that?
I think there's more than one person talking through the psychic friend fredbear and that fnaf world was hinting this as well as the security log book. 2 ppl are talking to crying child.
That cat has zero agony. Happy boye.
A channel already made this exact conclusion their name is Sir squawks the video was updated October 12 2023 and titled: (Cassidy the spirit behind everything in fnaf) personally I don't think rye toast would steal content he probably doesn't even know his channel exists but I wanted to bring it up cuz it seems like he made it first and his channel is small
If the MCU has the spaghetti order for its lore and Star wars has the machete order
Then Fnaf has the Bent springlock order
Also, the Stitchwraith could be a parallel to Fredbear, Two Spirits in one Body.
Golden freddy only have one soul, cc memories is shattered in fnaf world
@@Wizardjones69I never heard of that, can you explain more?
@@Kaju_Reyiz basically after cc was bitted and died in the hospital, his memories/pieces were shattered, so the fnaf 4 minigames would be modified memories, so cassidy is in the fredbear plush and so is the yellow eyes from fnaf world intro, she's helping cc to find his memories
Off topic, but what if Cassie was already somewhat possessed by Glitchtrap before going to the ruined Pizzaplex? She says that the Nightmareione plush was from that vr game, which means she could've played it. It could also explain how Grimic messaged her
A daily spray of Flonase and some Eyedrops would fix that allergy issue with your cat btw
1:50 shit, these exorcisms are getting out of hand
Eleanor came to the games. She is very Dangerous and Powerful.
... Gods damn into the pit, it made the Copypasta real!
Okay, question, when the FUCK was William confirmed to be a draft dodger 💀
I've just noticed something what if princess Quest is Cassidy traversing through Vanessa's mind after glitchtrap infected her. I get it it makes no sense but in reality it does in more ways than 1. Some common knowledge is that springtrap/William was turnt into glitchtrap by putting spring Bonnie's chip into the video game and this happens after the events of fnaf 6 . And what happens after fnaf 6 Cassidy tortured William by entering his mind what if this caused Cassidy to also be transferred into the game and when glitchtrap infected Vanessa with his virus Cassidy went along with the virus to protect her. What helps with this theory is in fnaf ar when Vanessa writes those weird messages. I think that's Cassidy fighting back but loses control this is what happens in pq1 and when we continue as Gregory in the other pq games we awaken Cassidy to fight back again and break Vanessa free. But since that's not the real ending I assume during hw 2 we awaken Cassidy with the other pq game and in the ending it's Cassidy controling Vanessa instead
Wait, draft dodger? That caught me outta left field, this is the first time I've heard of this-
No evidence whatsoever, just funny to say
@@RyeToast Fair! Sorry that flew over my head- xD
I still wish someone would talk about William Afton's first death before the springlock failure. For him to be purple like Mike was after he got scooped. Maybe he injected himself with remnant using the scooper.
William is not literally purple
Now the only thing with the crying child I'm confused by is
Well it's two things
One why the Fredbear plush and not gold Bonnie (if that's what it's originally named) I mean the bunny was what his father was associated with, and the Fredbear was Henry usually
Unless maybe crying child liked it more and William didn't want him picking up on that it's him talking through the plush? Or was it even William... 🤔
Then there's Mike, why is the crying child so pale compared to him
Was he just sickly pale or was their mother's different?
I mean it's possible to have mixed kids be different skin tons sure but that seems intentional, it's fnaf everything is intentional.
Yeah it can be explained away but I'm still curious about it. Does it have lore importance or is it just a random tibit that doesn't mean anything in the long run 🤷
Love ya Rye but seeing as things are going, I honestly think that CassidyTOYSHNK is slowly becoming with the likes of Mikehell, Miketrap, and Dream Theory.
There is no way to parallel Andrew/Cassidy without blatantly cherry-picking what's parallel and what's not. Andrew is a 6th victim that doesn't possess anything, and is directly attached to William.
Besides pre-supposing that Cassidy is vengeful (reminder, she's never been shown as more vengeful than the others). There is absolutely nothing that connects them.
We literally see the difference between them with the logbook and how Andrew treats jake. Cassidy is nice and caring, Andrew is a mean and rude brat.
Whenever the vengeful SPIRIT, not the suit, not the animatronic, not a faz coin, the SPIRIT is referenced, it is a he. Cassidy has shown twice to be a girl. With the novels and the logbook showing an illustration of the Puppet giving Cass a cake at happiest day.
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Yes but if ANDREWTOYSNHK is true,why we see Golden Freddy during ucn?
@docrilas there's a really good theory (one i believe), called UCNdissent, basically it goes as Andrew is the vengeful spirit, but Cassidy comes in to try and persuade him to rest. Andrew refuses, Cassidy eventually gets to OMC's lake, and drowns, or rests. The GF stuff is her presence (and the twitching scene might have another meaning, unrelated to UCN tho)
@@docrilas making sure you get the notification
@@storytellernerd ucnduo is a good theory but if it's true,why Ackermann never talks about an 3th soul in Afton's body?why we never see an alligator in ucn?
What if the stories are so similar... It reminds me of when people tell stories but only change the names... What if the names are the only absolute truth and all the details have been changed abit? Idk just something that I've noticed with all these stories. Seems they're all different but they are almost parallels for characters that we don't have the names of
The stitch wraith's mask..... would be on its head. The head of golden freddy is what crunched the crying child. While cassidy would've been stuffed in golden freddy in some form.... Inside of it. Like a heart.
@Sonicmid A lot of this is wrong but I don’t really care to argue, I do want to point out to you that using evidence like “Scott said Matpat was right about his FNaF 2 theory” and “FNaF 1 was meant to be a standalone game” are really weak points because it’s clear that this series has evolved beyond its original intentions. Sure, in FNaF 1 and 2 and maybe even up until 4 there was meant to be one spirit, but things easily could have changed
Also, honestly thinking FNaF only has 1 retcon is kinda silly because I could think of like 3 off the top of my head
@Sonicmid You seem really passionate about proving interpretations wrong for someone pretending they respect different opinions.
The fnaf lore is a mess that isnt meant to be solved anymore. Let people piece together their own puzzle.
@@ma_cherri They sadly seem to be known for doing this often, both on here and twitter, I've been watching the community as a whole for a while now and they along with several others (zain, gold, vhs, AB, etc) refuse to be mindful of other interpretations of the lore and insist their theories and beliefs are 100% canon and are true, when at best they are headcanons that we don't have confirmation of yet.
They shove their theories and interpretations down other people's throats, but as soon as someone else, someone popular especially, has an interpretation that goes against their beliefs, they get aggressive or pushy about it, and then have to absolutely debunk it at all costs.
I love this community dearly, but as I said a bit ago and will say again, people need to stop being aggressive and pushy onto others for their theories and interpretations, even if they don't believe in them. Hell I don't believe in StitchlineGames, or that Andrew even exists in the games, but I at least understand and respect those theories, even though I don't believe in them.
This community would be looked at so much more favorably if people just were more accepting, but sadly the most vocal of the community are those that double down and refuse to see other interpretations.
@@DualityNevermore Sadly why i stopped interacting with the community as someone who always prefered fun headcanons over "more accurate" theories.
@Sonicmid This isnt fun, that person was just speculating and sharing ideas. Youre turning down every idea that isnt yours just to repeat your own theories. Thats not even debating youre just shoving things down peoples throats
The book movie games are Separate individual own different Continuities au worlds
Main Canon original game au world main lore story fnaf
Fnaf Book au world
Fnaf Movie au World
Also there 3 william afton from 3 different Separate individual au world
1 main canon original game au william afton
2 fnaf book au william dave miller
3 fnaf movie au william Steve raglan
Cassidy is princess golden Freddy cassidy Because in the files The princess was going to be named cassidy but they changed it to princess
Also there old man Consequences red king old man giving golden Freddy cassidy princess the golden sword to battle fight against glichtrap burntrap william in princess quest game
toast ATE with this one
Didn't that one girl in the fnaf movie die looking for a kid in freddy
Do I get credit for bringing the Golden Freddy getting springlocked idea up back in February?
Your not the first we wont know who said it but you were definitely not the first
Golden freddy already get confirmed springlocked from silver eyes
Why did you say Willam was a draft dodger?
Cause it's funny
Isn't there a Fetch arcade game in Security Breach?
That would inply either:
-1: The Frights Books happen in some way in the games
-2: [my pet idea], FazProp: The Fazbear Frights book series [and potentially the Tales books as well] are an in-universe novel series, sold at or released around the opening of the in-universe Fazbear's Fright [the actual Horror attraction FNaF3 was set in]]. This takes the rogue indie dev plotline and runs with it, assuming Fazbear inc would do all they can to both profit off of and misdirect serious inquiries about, the Fazbear Tragedies.
-3, the least palatable one but easiest to believe IRL because, Scott didn't make the games: all the arcade cabinets that cannot be played are ONLY Easter Eggs and mean nothing, because fanservice and corporate BS.
Theodore is in the arcades games in Security Breach but the Charlie Trilogy is still not in the games
@Sonicmid so CharlieBot is in the games timeline?ok
@@docrilas I am still unsure of how to handle the Charlie trilogy in my FazProp hypothesis. It is based on the story Steel Wool is trying to tell, as opposed to the story Scott, for the most part, is done telling. Under FazProp:
-the Office, Sim, and any other sections of FNAF1-6 are in-universe video games made by Fazbear inc to both profit and misdirect investigations from the actual tragedies [over a dozen dead kids, more if you count the book kids] that happened between 1983 and 1993, a decade of destruction.
-anything in the Steel Wool games happen exactly as advertised [retconning anything in 1-6 because they are confirmed in-universe games
-Fazbear's Fright [the location of FNaF3, possibly without the supernatural stuff] was an in-universe attraction, FNAF3 and Fazbear Frights were tie-in merch. Frights was probably a comic series that you got from weekly visits [like a happy meal toy]
-Freddy Fazbear's Pizza Sim, specifically the non-office parts where you just build a pizzeria, is also an in-universe game. It is implied that the office sections may have been a game as well since there are ScrapTrap and Scrap Baby themed games and merch.
-Tales from the Pizzaplex might also be weekly comics from the pizzaplex
Based on the evidence I am using to say the Frights and Tales stuff are in-universe fiction, the Novels might also be, seeing the Ella and Theodore references.
I am erring towards the 8-bit minigames being haunted depictions of what actually happened since many are also arcade cabinets in SB and other games, but not to my knowledge in the HW remakes [I know the IRL reason is they either couldn't or didn't want to code 8-bit VR games].
I am on the fence about the Mimic and Stitchwraith epilogues [and their directly related stories] since another lynchpin of this theory is the nested Parallels in each set of stories
-Blob/Tangle/Molten Freddy/Stitchwraith/Ennard/Agony Trash Rabbit
-Edwin/Henry
-Silver Eyes Charlie/David
-Andrew/Cassidy
-Baby/Elanor
-Jake/Crying Child/Evan/Rory
-Charlotte Emily/Save Him-her daughter of HRY223 [as neither Henry nor Charlie are technically mentioned directly by name in the games except CharlieDoor which, was that patched out with Cassidy?]
-Glitchtrap/Mimic1. This is a big one, since we meet what we call Glitchtrap/Malhare is technically a character on an arcade cabinet Glitchy Maze. so it might just be the Mimic1 program
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Canon or Not, It Does Inform us how Certain stuff works.
Rye toast the fnaf theory goat
Hey... Does that weird, evil amalgamation of agony infused stuff controlled by William Afton kinda remind anyone else of the Tangle...? Like, after it ate burntrap, we were kinda theorizing that William might've taken control of it, so... Um... Thoughts? ;-;
I'm choosing to believe that Stitchline games is real solely because of the fact that I really don't like the Vengeful Spirit as a character. They are this ultimate spirit of vengeance. They are Willam Afton's worst nightmare. And their lore is...... he killed them a hit worse than the other kids he murdered. No personal connection. No actual motive. Just maybe a non descript worse death.
In my opinion, the story is way more compelling if the Crying Child is the Vengeful Spirit. The weakest, saddest character morphed into a vicious monster when his brother (accidentally) kills him.
I think it also leads to a more compelling UCM as well. If it's William's he'll, his son has finally realized who the real monster was and is punishing him for it. If you're a Michael UCM believer, then you have Michael trapped in a hell of his own making by the brother that he killed. I think either of those is more interesting than it just being William being haunted by a nameless child that we've never even seen on screen.
oh well the story definitilly not taking that route especially since C.C is still portrayed as timid in the logbook
@Mimi_k1 It's probably not the way it has gone but how much does CC actually say in the book to make any conclusions about him? I'm not super familiar with it.
@@donniejefferson9554 oh yeah take my words with like a teaspoon of salt cause I've watched theory videos and posts and in all of them they say C.C acts timid in the logbook I actually haven't read it myself.(also I'd like you to know I have nothing against your opinion and actually agree on the fact that I think it would be more compelling if C.C was the vengeful spirit)