Scott's comment being "ultimately unhelpful" is a funny statement, because the actual meaning is "when you get right down to it, it doesn't actually help us", but I like to interpret as "he phrased it in the most intentionally unhelpful way he possibly could". The ultimate expression of unhelpfulness.
Scott really is just Like That™ and I find it infinitely hilarious 😂 I'm still convinced the Dream Theory thing was just to troll MatPat and MatPat just ran with it
the "kids at play" was an INSANE read ngl you're right the part where he suddenly stops seeing out of his left eye and just hears a wet * plop * on the ground is a horrific description i think the only saving grace here is the fact that he couldnt feel any of it, making it less horrifying
@@mr.enderman1993: After hearing MatPat talk about the one where this teen gets his soul swapped(dude got curse souled. TOS) into this Freddy toy and then got thrown up on is what made me not want to read any of the books. It made me think there was gonna be even more terrifying stuff like that and what you guys are talking about and I'm glad I don't even have the money to even buy them lmao😅
I know this isnt the point of the video, but stories like Kids at Play and Together Forever are just so gruesome it kinda makes me laugh that they had to cut Vanny's knife and a line anout Gregory bleeding from SB
18:36 GOD that cat is adorable. The little stretch, I don’t know how you can focus with a ball of simultaneous angst and love like that in front of you
it’s interesting to me that the idea of water being changed by emotion comes up and we also have been theorizing on a character drowning and have the pond with old man consequences in the games
@@coffee-ouji i’ve also heard rye mention that red lakes in the game could be referencing death by springtrap bc it FEELS like drowning in your own blood but i think it’s definitely a motif in the franchise that needs to be studied now
Michael Brookes (Golden Freddy) in the silver eyes trilogy tells Carlton not to give him the remnant back as he'll die if he does and he doesn't want his old friend to die. He says that Carlton should have a nice life and that he can 'give it back the next time they meet.' implying that this spirit will linger on while Carlton lives his full life.
Oml, that's actually really sweet ;A; Just imagine Carlton passing away in his old age, and he finds his friend that has been waiting for him this whole time, and they move on together (lore be damned, let me have this happy ending!)
One thing to note about agony and black tendrils is there there is one animatronic that is known to manifest black tendrils, that being nightmarionne. Interesting since puppet plushies (both base and nightmare) were all over security breach.
WAIT! No, you're definitely cooking with the sign thing because of the way the wet floor signs have the screams of children. That could explain that. Holy shit
@@sleepylmguy9968 So basically you know how there is a Freddy files book, well an older version of the book was leaked. Which contained more info than the actual books we got. However Scoot said that this older version of the book is not cannon, and that's all you need to know.
The agony introduction theme song got a chuckle out of as it legit went from the starting of an essay to a “Broadway musical”, a 0-10. It was pretty good.
Thank you for the Into The Woods section. I always feel at home amongst my fellow musical theater fans. And thank you so much for this breakdown. I'm gonna watch it again immediately to hopefully absorb more of it because this ish is ✨COMPLICATED✨. I really appreciate you going through all this work to explain it and I can't wait for the next one.
Keep in mind! There's more information in these books, this is just the rules of the universe from them. I thought were important. The characters next week, but there's a lot of information I'm not going to be covering with these videos 👍 (And yeah I couldn't help myself, I think of that every time I see the word agony)
"black tendrils" you also cant forget about the discovery john made about all of the nightmarione plushes littered throughout the pizzaplex and its wires scattered throughout too, as well as just the general design of nightmarione. black tendrils? even the regular puppet has SORT OF the same design, just a lot less extreme. imagine nightmarione is the representation of pure agony, that could potentially explain a lot if given a lil more thought.
having an answer for the whole SB: Ruin hazard sign situation is crazy tho, especially considering how specific the connection is. while the children at play sign and the hazard sign are two very different concepts, the pained ghostly sounds coming from the signs and the repetition of them is striking, to say the least.
16:13 could that explain Michael after getting scooped? Everyone possibly perceiving him as normal until Ennard left his body, maybe even afterward as well? I know in those 8-bit cuts, the people slowly start staying away and it's mainly to help show how he's decomposing despite still functioning normally, but how else would he have managed to stay a protagonist in the games? Surely, if a corpse walked in wanting a job, you'd call the authorities. But if they're perceiving him as still being alive and maybe just having a peculiar odor, that would make a little more sense. But that also ties into the placement of SL
I think that in the case of the possessing animatronics, you don't just have remnant. You have both remnant: derived from the souls themselves which contain memory and positive emotions from childhood before the murder, and agony: produced by the murder itself. Ths agony is what makes the animatronics especially aggressive, and has to be expelled in order for them to find peace. That's why the Puppet is seemingly more benevolent and aware. They've had the longest to expell their agony, their death wasn't as violent as the others, and have they have essentially mastered remnant abilities. They now guide the other unfortunate souls of the kids to let go of their hatred and expell their own agony through happiest day and FNAF World. Cassidy, Golden Freddy, TOYSNHK is the flipside of that coin. They have gone full into agony, and refuse to just move on. TLDR my theory is Agony is produced from particularly gruesome deaths and needs to be expelled before the souls can move on.
I agree. It would make sense that souls need to lose their negative emotions because that is what's keeping them alive. Also, have you read Coming Home? because it's about how Susie's soul splits into two: Susie and Chica. Susie being powered by the positive emotion from the memories throughout her life, and Chica being powered by the very strong negative experience at the very end of her life. The story is about how she tries to cultivate positive emotion to overpower chica, or something like that.
What if the shadows correspond to different deaths, Shadow Freddy from Cassidy, RXQ and Shadow BB (Fnaf 3) from the DCI, and Shadow Puppet (Fnaf 3) from Charlie?
This still does not fully explain why RXQ "helps the souls of children" on the happiest day, or why Shadow Freddy helps the original four in Follow Me (although it can be interpreted in different ways and he does not help them at all, but works for William). this can be explained if Nightmare and SF are the same thing, given the former's phrase at UCN: "I am your wickedness. Made of flesh"
The Kids At Play signs feel like a Security thing right? That’s why Fazbear’s put them out - child safety. Which puts them under Henry’s purview in my mind. Yes they seem too magic, but I mean what the hell was the security puppet if not more magic than mechanic with its noodle limbs and lifelike desire to risk its own life for a child before it ever even got possessed. And the link with the Wet Floor Sign bots, in this place where Henry’s presence feels more important than William’s… I can both see why the story was “cut” but also there’s still something to be gleaned there.
My best explanation for whether the books are a part of the game timeline is a theory relating to how HW1 treated the previous games. The books are all ABOUT events that occurred in the timeline, but are inaccurate when compared directly to the games. They are in-universe creations made by hired writers to cover up occurrences surrounding Fazbear Entertainment. No, the events of the stories aren’t entirely canon, but that’s only because they’re written in-universe as scapegoats for all the bad happenings surrounding Fazbear. Again, another way of keeping things liquid and enabling us to pick and choose what is in the timeline and what isn’t.
I like that, though I think to be able to fully believe that and use that as the base for how we use the books we would have to have a game where the books are referenced. HW1 made it very clear that the games are in universe, even to the point where they put some of the older games in the background of the main office in that game, but with the books we only really have assumptions sadly.
@@knatspray I agree! It leaves room for everyone to have their own version of the story, and _technically_ nobody is wrong, we’re just also not necessarily correct until otherwise stated IMO. That’s why it’s been so sad to see so many people get so heated about the canon of the books and needing to be “right” about their preferred version of events, because literally being right will probably never happen in this fandom lol. This fandom isn’t really one where you pick your headcanon and nobody will ever question the reality of it, we’re all working from the same non-evidence and the point for a lot of us is to challenge each others ideas and see what comes of it. I love the idea that the books are direct canon with slight variations here and there, but I also think it’s really fun to go through and pick out the stories that have very obvious connections and only use those, because over time we notice more and more of those connections and slowly expand our understanding of how much the books can and should be referenced. In my brain, it’s like the difference between having a puzzle where you have all the pieces but don’t know what it’s supposed to look like, and having a puzzle where you’re missing half the box. Using the books as canon we basically know everything, we just don’t know how it fits together into a cohesive narrative in the game universe, while using the books as either in-universe or selective canon we have the idea of what happens from the games and have to see how the books can expend our understanding of those events and how they fit together. Both are fun, just entirely different ways of thinking about the timeline. (sorry for the long comment, brain went into hyperdrive)
Do you think that lefty could be a refurbished carnie? This is a very long shot, im talkin 100 yard football kick, but it's just some fun thoughts that could conjure up something in the community. If you look at burnt carnie's model, you can just barely see that his right eye is more withered. You may have to squint. But say that at that time his right eye got replaced because it was the most damaged of the two, after decades of collecting dust and rotting away, the untouched eye could have decayed to the point of becoming black. As Henry repared carnie to become lefty, the original eye may have stayed or been replaced with a new black eye for a unique touch. A more realistic approach could be the lefty's design is INSPIRED by his burnt orginal. The eye rotted eye i just mentioned could have inspired the black eye detail. One specific character of that I think could drive home this theory is the color. Burnt carnie is a muted brown with white char accents. But if you were to scrape all of burnt plastic off, you be left with a black tarnished metal. Notice that lefty is not solid black, but a metalic, gun metal black. I think it is possibe that lefty is either a repaired version of carnie, with it's new design based on the chared scraps of the original, or lefty was a completely different animatronic who's build was inspired by the remains of his counterpart. By the location of Fazer Blast and hint we see, I think that carnie was most likely a part of Fall Fest(most likely the 1970 event) if so, do you think it's possible that carnie was one of Henry's first animatronics. That was a whole decade before our first look at fredbears. Whether or not Fredbear's opened before 1983. I highly doubt that it was an establishment before 1970. I noticed that there is no sign of Freddy’s or Fredbear's on the poster. Which leads me to believe that this fall fest may have predated everything. The running theory is that the mediocre melodies were his first animatronics, made to rip off Freddy’s fame. But being that we see an animatronic a decade before that, that closely resembles one of his final animatronics. It really seems that carnie could be his first. Here's some food for thought. Henry has been deemed a copycat in the early timeline for the mediocre melodies. But if he made his first BEAR animatronic at a children's theme event in 1970, is he really the copycat? If William stole the idea and made Fredbear's, and Fredbear's became as big as it did. No one would bat an eye at a small carnival with a simple bear animatronic. I don't know if I like this idea, but I'm just throwing everything I got to see what sticks. Is it possible that William set the carnival on fire to one, preventing it from becoming more successful. And two, to take that idea and reuse it for himself. I don't think he was pure evil at this point, or really evil at all. But it's still just a thought. I don't really think that lefty is a remade carnie. I think it's possible that the design could have been inspired by the withered design. But I doubt that they put that much thought into a connection like that. I am pretty confident, though, that carnie was most likely the first and that Henry was never really the copycat. But more so, tried to reclaim the ideas stolen from him later on after William's fame.
Amazing video as always. But The Into the woods reference It's like you reached into my head and took it directly out. I think that every time I hear that word.
I disagree with your theory of agony and remnant and here's why: First of all, agony is an emotion, which there are many. It just so happens that agony is the strongest. Phineas doesn't just study agony; he studies human emotion. For example, Phineas grows a plethora of flowers, and each holds their own emotion, like the passionflower. "He believed flowers were nature's purest vessles of emotion. " So that would mean the opposite of agony is passion. Dark emotion is opposite to light emotion. But what about remnant? Well, remnant is described as "haunted" by Talbert. On the other hand, agony is described as NOT haunted, or not exactly. Phineas prefers not to use the word haunted and instead uses the word "energized." So the way I see the relationship between emotion and remnant is that they are different substances fundamentally, and emotions fuel remnant, where light remnant is fueled by passion and positive emotion, while dark remnant is powered by agony and negative emotion. So I think remnant is memories that are colored or energized by emotion. It's like in the Pixar movie Inside Out, where memory-balls are colored by the different emotions. And just like in the movie where pure emotions can pour their emotional energy into a memory-ball to change its color, Jake, being a beacon of positive emotion, can channel his hope into a memory of Grim, the homeless man, and inflate the memory like a balloon. (Jake literally turns the pit balls, which each contain a memory, a shining gold to crystal clear, which signifies a happy ending.) The opposite is true where in What We Found, Springtrap pours his negative emotions into Hudson's negative memories and traumas. And finally to quote Dr. Talbert, "Remnant is the mixing...of memory and the present," and a quote from William Afton, "The spirit (or the remnants of life) follows the flesh, it would seem, and also the pain (or negative emotion.)" This model of emotions and remnant can explain a lot more, like spirit possession, the ball pit, and even faz-goo, but this is the gist of my understanding of the relationship between emotion and remnant.
I thought what happened at the all staff meeting was that they were all turned into staff bots, because of the like half ending of FNaF HW2, but I mean that would make sense about the wet floor signs, or maybe the wet floor signs are from the kids Vanny killed
THIS ISN'T RELEVANT TO THE VIDEO but i think you could look at the toy chica cutscene in ucn because something doesn't add up to me. If that cutscene is supposed to reveal how afton lured the kids and it also shows that toy chca killed foxy before all that(probably Charlie) that would mean that afton killed 7 kids with probably charlie on the frist day some other kid on the sceond day and 5 kids on the third day also this cutscene has conections to midnight motorists witch is it's own can of worms plus she's always repeating: "There's just one thing that could possibly go wrong" what does that mean??
Is it possible that the stories either happen in the background of the game timeline but doesn't connect directly to the game's story. Like while pizza sim is happening parallel to a story but they don't affect each other. Just filling out how things work in the Five Nights and Freddy's universe. Just a thought that popped in while watching your video.
Oh and also it would make sence for the newest animitronics like roxy and monty to have issues with emotions because there programed to have problems to be realateble chica is made to eat alot to make her be a role modle for fitness so monty haveing a 'feeling' of jealisy would make sence since roxy is afraid of what people think she wants to be cool and pretty wich makes sence for her anger fits so monty hurting bonnie would makes sence so he also could have sabitoshed freddy cause in the monty gold freddy gets throne out and hes not damaged but monty still takes his place so freddy probly got thrown out for 'malfunctions' and thats how monty replaces him
OML!!! At 4:07 in the video he sings the agony song from the Disney movie “into the woods”!!! Dual process actually did a similar thing in their “HOLY (nope) WE SOLVED EVERYTHING” video!(the timestamp is in my comment, liked by dual process themselves if you want to hear it)
It's very interesting that when a person comes into contact with agony they suffer a horrific death, but remnant on the other hand, can make a person immortal when injected into them, very interesting to think about
When you mentioned the black tendrils, I had a sudden memory from years ago. Years before the first FNAF game came out. I used to do Star Wars roleplay on Facebook. I played a Zabrak who grew up on her home planet. When she was a child, her parents were killed by a wild animal that got loose in the town. She was traumatized, and every time she tried to meditate to calm herself down, black tendrils would spread around her, disintegrating every living thing they touched. Good times! 😅 I often traumatize my characters...
I was always wondering if, maybe for Kids at Play, what happened was that the guy's OWN agony tore him apart? It hadn't transferred out of his body, so the signs that were around him (and possibly other people who were in similar situations to him and got turned into signs) started moving around to go towards him, since he associated that sign with him hitting the kid. Then, at the end, his own built up agony, quite literally caused him to break down, turning him into a sign since that incident was what caused everything. Also, on another note, has anybody else thought about how it is possible that poor kid witnessed that occurring since he was nearby? Or maybe heard it? That was the worst part for me like holy hell.
HIIIIIII iv been a large fan usely watch on my xbox so i opened my phone to coment how much i love your channal i dont whatch your podcast since i have a dificult time when there more than one person and with not haveing something to focuse on the your green screen really helps and how you talk with your hands keeps me focused just wanted to show the love❤
Here I am, just listening along while I work and all of a sudden I hear Into the Woods.... I've been waiting for literally anyone to clip "Agony" in when talking about Agony forever and I'm so glad it was you!!!
The story of the driving sign is absolutely wild, it did however reminded me of the paper pals, odd inanimate objects that a few times appeared haunted and had at least some nebulous implications on the games
I think you missed some stuff from Taggret about a "psychic shield that can protect you from negative emotions" and that certain types of flowers can influence emotions as well. They seem like weird details that should be investigated further
I think the flowers thing are just to explain that agony isn't the only emotion, and although it is the most powerful, the others exist and can still keep a spirit alive after death, like Jake. That's just my opinion, tho.
@@elijahbedinger1222 I think you're spot on about the flowers. I am also curious about the drink you can make with the flower that tagret mentioned. Could just a molecule or two of something filled with agony have a noticeable effect on the thing that consumed it or that it's around the same way a flower does?
The Joel story reminded me of the michael cutscene where he slowly turns purple when walking on the sidewalk. It could be connected but probably not idk they just sounded very familiar.
The way I see it is that the spirits in fnaf are the manifestation of lingering memories and emotions. It tracks with the silver eyes where Charlie says that not ghosts, but memories and emotions linger. Lamar goes on to say that she’s talking about some essence that hangs around after a person is gone and says “that’s a ghost”. Marla mentions that people shed these experiences everywhere they go and everybody catches traces of people they’ve never met before. The word trace is important because that is a synonym for remnant. And all of this comes together in fazbear frights where talbert says remnant is the mixing of “memory with the present. The people and things that are lost, it makes them almost real again”. When the lingering memories and emotions of a person bind to metal, that metal conducts this essence, facilitating the transfer of energy across the endoskeleton, allowing the dead to become almost real again. ie, possessed by the spirits of the dead.
mat pat is lucky he retired when he did before having to potentially have to face the idea that the funny wet floor signs might be missing persons forcibly transformed by magic into said signs, and that there is precedent for such a thing in the franchise.
the. the story of the guy melting down the different agonys into 1 (the endoskeleton) really reminded me of the . candy cadet stories? :O (only partway through the video but just wanted to mention it)
The story about the children at play sign made me think maybe the paper pal signs could be something similar? Obviously not much evidence but still interesting thought
The whole "Kids at Play" story sticks out to me, but only because the way the signs function reminds me too much of how Stands work in Jojo's Bizarre Adventure. Everything about those signs falls right in line with the supernatural phenomenon from JJBA down to the gore. In this case it seems like the ability is automatic, with the range of the ability extending as far as the signs are spread. The trigger for the ability falls in line with Jojo as well, since the trigger is specific enough that the ability of the signs is only activated when the condition is met. In this case, the trigger is activated when anyone in range of the signs physically harms a kid. It would explain why the initial puddle of goop (which likely WAS a dog) was affected by the signs. The fact that the target of the signs has a grace period between activation and transformation is notable; it means that there's some sort of rule that the signs must follow before they're allowed to turn a target. It's like you said, if he had "turned himself in" he probably would have been spared.
Is the head of the Freddy Bobblehead actually on your mic, rather than the background?? I keep seeing your hand go behind it, and it looks like it's attached to the mic, as like, a pin.
With Scott not knowing specific details about the plot in the beginning but knowing he wanted a bigger story, I wonder if there are basic themes we should consider. Anger versus happy memories, moving on or remaining as a spirit. With Scott's religious background I bet redemption is at play, too. I wonder if we'll ever get a character who has a bunch of both and should let the remnant win. Just a thought
Theory idea we know where 2 of the agony items Come from. 1. The paper plates are the paper pals from the restaurants. 2. The empty Jack in the box is from Jackie from secret of the mimics in the d3mo she apparently rips themself out of their jack in the box. The mirror I'm not sure but maybe the mirror Micheal looks in after being colonoscopied by ennard. And the endo 'could' be the Mimic but I'm not so hot on that idea now I'm typing it out 😅 just an idea though
In the storyteller (SPOILERS IF YOU HAVEN’T READ THE BOOK) theirs a quote that says All the happy chants and screams was like an electrical circuit that if it could have been harnessed probably would’ve generated enough power to run a dozen pizzaplex’s. Another quote is he ideally wonder how it might be possible to channel human joy into a machine. The way I take this, it seems that fazbear entertainment llc at some point is aware of the supernatural energy of both positive and negative human emotions and want to someone harness its power to use it for things like powering certain machines, we already know about agony and how it works but the storyteller story seems to be introducing the idea of agony’s counterpart Joy, that could explain the pizzaplex animatronics, maybe instead of being possessed by ghost or just having really advance AI their actually infused with the energy of both Joy and Agony.
Wild, last FNaF story I read was Kids at Play, I was going to read Find Player Two later today. I'm also reading through all the FNaF books atm. I never really considered the idea of the Caution Bots being like that, that's an interesting idea. I tried to think of reasoning behind everything that goes on in the FNaF books but ngl, so many things ended up just being unexplained that I kinda gave up in the latter half trying to think of ways to explain everything. What caused things like Kids at Play to happen? Was it similar to Lonely Freddy where those things have a soul themselves that enter you and force you into doing stuff? There's a lot of things in Fazbear Frights, specifically things created by Fazbear Entertainment that feel like they have a soul but weirdly don't feel like they're a person, like they're artificial souls somehow created by Fazbear Entertainment. To elaborate, was Lonely Freddy another victim before soul-swapping? I doubt it, the bear's behaviour is drastically different to the behaviour of the victims, that's what I mean by it feels like they're an "aritificial soul". Edit after going to the bathroom: I wonder if the Plushbabies function similarly. Fazbear Entertainment deliberately giving artificial life to the product. I don't know, I had this thought just now and haven't really had the time to think about it.
Had to dig a bit but apparently there was a leak way back when, before FFPS, called the Talbert files which were ideas Scott scrapped. RyeToast seems to just be explaining that they're not gonna go into that rabbithole, since it's scrapped info, for the people who know about that leak. I might be wrong though. Maybe it's about something else.
So in the story he rye toast mentions the puppet attacks a kid that try’s on the Freddy mask, probably having something to do with agony or some residual spiritual energy right? Is that another reason why the fnaf animatronics all attack Micheal throughout the locations and he can see the phantoms? Even if he looks like his dad after he’s scooped what if he has residual agony or remnant from them not just his own keeping him together. That’s why the animatronics attack possibly, they can sense bits of themselves inside. That could also explain the phantoms, lingering bits of remnant or agony manifesting. Sort of like Carlton’s dreams after William injects him.
Every time an employee slips on the floor in the pizzaplex, they decide not to put a wet floor sign there. They then start to get paranoid and think, "what if someone saw me slip and not put a wet floor sign there?!" Their body then involuntarily walks over to the wet spot on the floor and they turn into wet floor sign bots. It's a good thing Cassie deactivates them.👍
Scott's comment being "ultimately unhelpful" is a funny statement, because the actual meaning is "when you get right down to it, it doesn't actually help us", but I like to interpret as "he phrased it in the most intentionally unhelpful way he possibly could". The ultimate expression of unhelpfulness.
Scott really is just Like That™ and I find it infinitely hilarious 😂 I'm still convinced the Dream Theory thing was just to troll MatPat and MatPat just ran with it
@@littlegreensunflower3547why the “Like that tm”
@KassioX_0 it's for emphasis and a little humour
the "kids at play" was an INSANE read ngl you're right
the part where he suddenly stops seeing out of his left eye and just hears a wet * plop * on the ground is a horrific description
i think the only saving grace here is the fact that he couldnt feel any of it, making it less horrifying
bro that one still gives me nightmares if i think about it.
Him not feeling it is more horrific
@@jenniferhorsman5294indeed. Without feeling it, you'll have no way of knowing the extent of the damage
It is a VERY hard read. I was so disgusted after reading it that I decided not to read the second half of the last story in that book.
@@mr.enderman1993: After hearing MatPat talk about the one where this teen gets his soul swapped(dude got curse souled. TOS) into this Freddy toy and then got thrown up on is what made me not want to read any of the books. It made me think there was gonna be even more terrifying stuff like that and what you guys are talking about and I'm glad I don't even have the money to even buy them lmao😅
I know this isnt the point of the video, but stories like Kids at Play and Together Forever are just so gruesome it kinda makes me laugh that they had to cut Vanny's knife and a line anout Gregory bleeding from SB
That’s because Sony didn’t publish the books
18:36 GOD that cat is adorable. The little stretch, I don’t know how you can focus with a ball of simultaneous angst and love like that in front of you
it’s interesting to me that the idea of water being changed by emotion comes up and we also have been theorizing on a character drowning and have the pond with old man consequences in the games
now Drowning makes a whole lotta sense omg you enlightened me
@@coffee-ouji i’ve also heard rye mention that red lakes in the game could be referencing death by springtrap bc it FEELS like drowning in your own blood but i think it’s definitely a motif in the franchise that needs to be studied now
Michael Brookes (Golden Freddy) in the silver eyes trilogy tells Carlton not to give him the remnant back as he'll die if he does and he doesn't want his old friend to die. He says that Carlton should have a nice life and that he can 'give it back the next time they meet.' implying that this spirit will linger on while Carlton lives his full life.
Oml, that's actually really sweet ;A; Just imagine Carlton passing away in his old age, and he finds his friend that has been waiting for him this whole time, and they move on together (lore be damned, let me have this happy ending!)
One thing to note about agony and black tendrils is there there is one animatronic that is known to manifest black tendrils, that being nightmarionne. Interesting since puppet plushies (both base and nightmare) were all over security breach.
WAIT! No, you're definitely cooking with the sign thing because of the way the wet floor signs have the screams of children. That could explain that. Holy shit
No, no, he’s BAKING
@@ThePuff18 you're so right! How could I be so foolish?
You may be aware of this already, but Scott confirmed that the Talbert files stuff is a fake leak. It's not part of the story and never was.
Thank you for saving me a google search lmao
Uhhhh, I’m confused. What the heck are we talking about?
@@sleepylmguy9968I'm assuming it's "This is the last time I'm bringing up Talbert. If you know, you know," that Rye mentioned earlier.
@@sleepylmguy9968 So basically you know how there is a Freddy files book, well an older version of the book was leaked. Which contained more info than the actual books we got. However Scoot said that this older version of the book is not cannon, and that's all you need to know.
@@someguylivingonearth1727 not just not cannon, it is completely fake
THE INTO THE WOODS CUT. 😭 You’re the best, Rye.
THIS !!! i did a little screaming
same with Tamatoa on the "shiny" at 9:02 🤣
I actually really like that explanation for the wet floor bots. idk I feel like it's not the weirdest thing this franchise has done
Wake up body, we gonna animorph into a fuckin sign
XD
Gosh I forgot about Animorphs.
The agony introduction theme song got a chuckle out of as it legit went from the starting of an essay to a “Broadway musical”, a 0-10. It was pretty good.
Thank you for the Into The Woods section. I always feel at home amongst my fellow musical theater fans. And thank you so much for this breakdown. I'm gonna watch it again immediately to hopefully absorb more of it because this ish is ✨COMPLICATED✨. I really appreciate you going through all this work to explain it and I can't wait for the next one.
Keep in mind! There's more information in these books, this is just the rules of the universe from them. I thought were important. The characters next week, but there's a lot of information I'm not going to be covering with these videos 👍 (And yeah I couldn't help myself, I think of that every time I see the word agony)
9:54 awww reminds me of my childhood cat, my father held her like that a lot. You could tell she loved it. Her purring was sooooo loud.
"black tendrils" you also cant forget about the discovery john made about all of the nightmarione plushes littered throughout the pizzaplex and its wires scattered throughout too, as well as just the general design of nightmarione. black tendrils? even the regular puppet has SORT OF the same design, just a lot less extreme. imagine nightmarione is the representation of pure agony, that could potentially explain a lot if given a lil more thought.
having an answer for the whole SB: Ruin hazard sign situation is crazy tho, especially considering how specific the connection is. while the children at play sign and the hazard sign are two very different concepts, the pained ghostly sounds coming from the signs and the repetition of them is striking, to say the least.
Nightmarionne being the Agony mirror of the normal Puppet would be very interesting
24:09 I mean, you CAN hear screaming (specifically child screams I believe) when you get close to them while wearing the Vanni mask.
16:13 could that explain Michael after getting scooped? Everyone possibly perceiving him as normal until Ennard left his body, maybe even afterward as well? I know in those 8-bit cuts, the people slowly start staying away and it's mainly to help show how he's decomposing despite still functioning normally, but how else would he have managed to stay a protagonist in the games? Surely, if a corpse walked in wanting a job, you'd call the authorities. But if they're perceiving him as still being alive and maybe just having a peculiar odor, that would make a little more sense. But that also ties into the placement of SL
I think that in the case of the possessing animatronics, you don't just have remnant. You have both remnant: derived from the souls themselves which contain memory and positive emotions from childhood before the murder, and agony: produced by the murder itself. Ths agony is what makes the animatronics especially aggressive, and has to be expelled in order for them to find peace. That's why the Puppet is seemingly more benevolent and aware. They've had the longest to expell their agony, their death wasn't as violent as the others, and have they have essentially mastered remnant abilities. They now guide the other unfortunate souls of the kids to let go of their hatred and expell their own agony through happiest day and FNAF World. Cassidy, Golden Freddy, TOYSNHK is the flipside of that coin. They have gone full into agony, and refuse to just move on.
TLDR my theory is Agony is produced from particularly gruesome deaths and needs to be expelled before the souls can move on.
I agree. It would make sense that souls need to lose their negative emotions because that is what's keeping them alive. Also, have you read Coming Home? because it's about how Susie's soul splits into two: Susie and Chica. Susie being powered by the positive emotion from the memories throughout her life, and Chica being powered by the very strong negative experience at the very end of her life. The story is about how she tries to cultivate positive emotion to overpower chica, or something like that.
Ngl don’t add TL;DRs because if people can’t be asked to read a paragraph then we’ve failed as a society
I just realized, fnaf ar’s camera has a blue tint, could that explain why we could see remnant and agony?
What if the shadows correspond to different deaths, Shadow Freddy from Cassidy, RXQ and Shadow BB (Fnaf 3) from the DCI, and Shadow Puppet (Fnaf 3) from Charlie?
This still does not fully explain why RXQ "helps the souls of children" on the happiest day, or why Shadow Freddy helps the original four in Follow Me (although it can be interpreted in different ways and he does not help them at all, but works for William). this can be explained if Nightmare and SF are the same thing, given the former's phrase at UCN: "I am your wickedness. Made of flesh"
You know its bad when we have to argue about grammer and speech patterns to decipher the lore
If only Phineas realized that intelligence ≠ wisdom.
He might finally be able to find where's perry 😔
The Kids At Play signs feel like a Security thing right? That’s why Fazbear’s put them out - child safety. Which puts them under Henry’s purview in my mind. Yes they seem too magic, but I mean what the hell was the security puppet if not more magic than mechanic with its noodle limbs and lifelike desire to risk its own life for a child before it ever even got possessed. And the link with the Wet Floor Sign bots, in this place where Henry’s presence feels more important than William’s… I can both see why the story was “cut” but also there’s still something to be gleaned there.
My best explanation for whether the books are a part of the game timeline is a theory relating to how HW1 treated the previous games. The books are all ABOUT events that occurred in the timeline, but are inaccurate when compared directly to the games. They are in-universe creations made by hired writers to cover up occurrences surrounding Fazbear Entertainment. No, the events of the stories aren’t entirely canon, but that’s only because they’re written in-universe as scapegoats for all the bad happenings surrounding Fazbear. Again, another way of keeping things liquid and enabling us to pick and choose what is in the timeline and what isn’t.
I like that, though I think to be able to fully believe that and use that as the base for how we use the books we would have to have a game where the books are referenced. HW1 made it very clear that the games are in universe, even to the point where they put some of the older games in the background of the main office in that game, but with the books we only really have assumptions sadly.
@@ellespoonies that’s the beauty of fnaf, everything is speculation until we get ONE confirmation. It’s fun.
@@knatspray I agree! It leaves room for everyone to have their own version of the story, and _technically_ nobody is wrong, we’re just also not necessarily correct until otherwise stated IMO. That’s why it’s been so sad to see so many people get so heated about the canon of the books and needing to be “right” about their preferred version of events, because literally being right will probably never happen in this fandom lol. This fandom isn’t really one where you pick your headcanon and nobody will ever question the reality of it, we’re all working from the same non-evidence and the point for a lot of us is to challenge each others ideas and see what comes of it. I love the idea that the books are direct canon with slight variations here and there, but I also think it’s really fun to go through and pick out the stories that have very obvious connections and only use those, because over time we notice more and more of those connections and slowly expand our understanding of how much the books can and should be referenced. In my brain, it’s like the difference between having a puzzle where you have all the pieces but don’t know what it’s supposed to look like, and having a puzzle where you’re missing half the box. Using the books as canon we basically know everything, we just don’t know how it fits together into a cohesive narrative in the game universe, while using the books as either in-universe or selective canon we have the idea of what happens from the games and have to see how the books can expend our understanding of those events and how they fit together. Both are fun, just entirely different ways of thinking about the timeline. (sorry for the long comment, brain went into hyperdrive)
@@ellespoonies: Exactly!
Do you think that lefty could be a refurbished carnie? This is a very long shot, im talkin 100 yard football kick, but it's just some fun thoughts that could conjure up something in the community.
If you look at burnt carnie's model, you can just barely see that his right eye is more withered. You may have to squint. But say that at that time his right eye got replaced because it was the most damaged of the two, after decades of collecting dust and rotting away, the untouched eye could have decayed to the point of becoming black. As Henry repared carnie to become lefty, the original eye may have stayed or been replaced with a new black eye for a unique touch.
A more realistic approach could be the lefty's design is INSPIRED by his burnt orginal. The eye rotted eye i just mentioned could have inspired the black eye detail.
One specific character of that I think could drive home this theory is the color. Burnt carnie is a muted brown with white char accents. But if you were to scrape all of burnt plastic off, you be left with a black tarnished metal. Notice that lefty is not solid black, but a metalic, gun metal black.
I think it is possibe that lefty is either a repaired version of carnie, with it's new design based on the chared scraps of the original, or lefty was a completely different animatronic who's build was inspired by the remains of his counterpart.
By the location of Fazer Blast and hint we see, I think that carnie was most likely a part of Fall Fest(most likely the 1970 event) if so, do you think it's possible that carnie was one of Henry's first animatronics. That was a whole decade before our first look at fredbears.
Whether or not Fredbear's opened before 1983. I highly doubt that it was an establishment before 1970. I noticed that there is no sign of Freddy’s or Fredbear's on the poster. Which leads me to believe that this fall fest may have predated everything.
The running theory is that the mediocre melodies were his first animatronics, made to rip off Freddy’s fame. But being that we see an animatronic a decade before that, that closely resembles one of his final animatronics. It really seems that carnie could be his first.
Here's some food for thought. Henry has been deemed a copycat in the early timeline for the mediocre melodies. But if he made his first BEAR animatronic at a children's theme event in 1970, is he really the copycat? If William stole the idea and made Fredbear's, and Fredbear's became as big as it did. No one would bat an eye at a small carnival with a simple bear animatronic.
I don't know if I like this idea, but I'm just throwing everything I got to see what sticks. Is it possible that William set the carnival on fire to one, preventing it from becoming more successful. And two, to take that idea and reuse it for himself. I don't think he was pure evil at this point, or really evil at all. But it's still just a thought.
I don't really think that lefty is a remade carnie. I think it's possible that the design could have been inspired by the withered design. But I doubt that they put that much thought into a connection like that.
I am pretty confident, though, that carnie was most likely the first and that Henry was never really the copycat. But more so, tried to reclaim the ideas stolen from him later on after William's fame.
Heavily appreciate holding cat like baby, can relate to not wanting to let them play with your fingers lol
Amazing video as always.
But
The
Into the woods reference
It's like you reached into my head and took it directly out. I think that every time I hear that word.
4:10 Just did Into the Woods at my High School a couple months ago, love that reference!
he's describing how agony can kill you on the spot and studdenly the happy Spyro music is playing
I was NOT ready for the Into the Woods refference but I'm here for it 😂
BLUE LIGHT COMMING FROM ENDO HEADS FROM MOVIE!!!
Kids at play is reminding me of the lonely Freddy story. Not nearly as graphic from what I remember, but maybe something to look into
I disagree with your theory of agony and remnant and here's why:
First of all, agony is an emotion, which there are many. It just so happens that agony is the strongest. Phineas doesn't just study agony; he studies human emotion. For example, Phineas grows a plethora of flowers, and each holds their own emotion, like the passionflower. "He believed flowers were nature's purest vessles of emotion. " So that would mean the opposite of agony is passion. Dark emotion is opposite to light emotion. But what about remnant? Well, remnant is described as "haunted" by Talbert. On the other hand, agony is described as NOT haunted, or not exactly. Phineas prefers not to use the word haunted and instead uses the word "energized." So the way I see the relationship between emotion and remnant is that they are different substances fundamentally, and emotions fuel remnant, where light remnant is fueled by passion and positive emotion, while dark remnant is powered by agony and negative emotion. So I think remnant is memories that are colored or energized by emotion. It's like in the Pixar movie Inside Out, where memory-balls are colored by the different emotions. And just like in the movie where pure emotions can pour their emotional energy into a memory-ball to change its color, Jake, being a beacon of positive emotion, can channel his hope into a memory of Grim, the homeless man, and inflate the memory like a balloon. (Jake literally turns the pit balls, which each contain a memory, a shining gold to crystal clear, which signifies a happy ending.) The opposite is true where in What We Found, Springtrap pours his negative emotions into Hudson's negative memories and traumas. And finally to quote Dr. Talbert, "Remnant is the mixing...of memory and the present," and a quote from William Afton, "The spirit (or the remnants of life) follows the flesh, it would seem, and also the pain (or negative emotion.)" This model of emotions and remnant can explain a lot more, like spirit possession, the ball pit, and even faz-goo, but this is the gist of my understanding of the relationship between emotion and remnant.
@@lokimiguel2452 Yes, exactly my point
I like this take
I thought what happened at the all staff meeting was that they were all turned into staff bots, because of the like half ending of FNaF HW2, but I mean that would make sense about the wet floor signs, or maybe the wet floor signs are from the kids Vanny killed
THIS ISN'T RELEVANT TO THE VIDEO but i think you could look at the toy chica cutscene in ucn because something doesn't add up to me. If that cutscene is supposed to reveal how afton lured the kids and it also shows that toy chca killed foxy before all that(probably Charlie) that would mean that afton killed 7 kids with probably charlie on the frist day some other kid on the sceond day and 5 kids on the third day also this cutscene has conections to midnight motorists witch is it's own can of worms plus she's always repeating: "There's just one thing that could possibly go wrong" what does that mean??
Is it possible that the stories either happen in the background of the game timeline but doesn't connect directly to the game's story. Like while pizza sim is happening parallel to a story but they don't affect each other. Just filling out how things work in the Five Nights and Freddy's universe. Just a thought that popped in while watching your video.
Oh and also it would make sence for the newest animitronics like roxy and monty to have issues with emotions because there programed to have problems to be realateble chica is made to eat alot to make her be a role modle for fitness so monty haveing a 'feeling' of jealisy would make sence since roxy is afraid of what people think she wants to be cool and pretty wich makes sence for her anger fits so monty hurting bonnie would makes sence so he also could have sabitoshed freddy cause in the monty gold freddy gets throne out and hes not damaged but monty still takes his place so freddy probly got thrown out for 'malfunctions' and thats how monty replaces him
Retype that or edit it with punctuation please 🙏
The FNAF2 mask link to the nightmares is actually kinda big imo.
OML!!! At 4:07 in the video he sings the agony song from the Disney movie “into the woods”!!! Dual process actually did a similar thing in their “HOLY (nope) WE SOLVED EVERYTHING” video!(the timestamp is in my comment, liked by dual process themselves if you want to hear it)
Talking about possessing things while the b-roll footage is Gregory inside Glamrock Freddy, I see you.
rye has been COOKIN w the theorys i love to listen to them while gaming or working etc rlly well made vids
It's very interesting that when a person comes into contact with agony they suffer a horrific death, but remnant on the other hand, can make a person immortal when injected into them, very interesting to think about
When you mentioned the black tendrils, I had a sudden memory from years ago. Years before the first FNAF game came out. I used to do Star Wars roleplay on Facebook. I played a Zabrak who grew up on her home planet. When she was a child, her parents were killed by a wild animal that got loose in the town. She was traumatized, and every time she tried to meditate to calm herself down, black tendrils would spread around her, disintegrating every living thing they touched. Good times! 😅 I often traumatize my characters...
I loved that "Aaagoonyyyy beyond power of speech 🎭" bit, you have no idea
I was always wondering if, maybe for Kids at Play, what happened was that the guy's OWN agony tore him apart? It hadn't transferred out of his body, so the signs that were around him (and possibly other people who were in similar situations to him and got turned into signs) started moving around to go towards him, since he associated that sign with him hitting the kid. Then, at the end, his own built up agony, quite literally caused him to break down, turning him into a sign since that incident was what caused everything.
Also, on another note, has anybody else thought about how it is possible that poor kid witnessed that occurring since he was nearby? Or maybe heard it? That was the worst part for me like holy hell.
Love the use of the Analyzing In Background meme, very cool, super based.
That was a really fast turn around from when you finished the books and did your initial thoughts and the full video. Good job!
I am wondering what was up with the wet floor bots. Kind of headcanoned they were possessed by some of Vanny's past victims
HIIIIIII iv been a large fan usely watch on my xbox so i opened my phone to coment how much i love your channal i dont whatch your podcast since i have a dificult time when there more than one person and with not haveing something to focuse on the your green screen really helps and how you talk with your hands keeps me focused just wanted to show the love❤
Here I am, just listening along while I work and all of a sudden I hear Into the Woods.... I've been waiting for literally anyone to clip "Agony" in when talking about Agony forever and I'm so glad it was you!!!
The story of the driving sign is absolutely wild, it did however reminded me of the paper pals, odd inanimate objects that a few times appeared haunted and had at least some nebulous implications on the games
Nice new ryetoast video, its been a tough few days with all the stuff going on in the fnaf community, so thanks
Black tendrils you say? 🤔 like nightmarionne?
I think you missed some stuff from Taggret about a "psychic shield that can protect you from negative emotions" and that certain types of flowers can influence emotions as well. They seem like weird details that should be investigated further
I think the flowers thing are just to explain that agony isn't the only emotion, and although it is the most powerful, the others exist and can still keep a spirit alive after death, like Jake. That's just my opinion, tho.
@@elijahbedinger1222 I think you're spot on about the flowers. I am also curious about the drink you can make with the flower that tagret mentioned. Could just a molecule or two of something filled with agony have a noticeable effect on the thing that consumed it or that it's around the same way a flower does?
@@elijahbedinger1222 no no, it ties FNaF to Undertale.
The Joel story reminded me of the michael cutscene where he slowly turns purple when walking on the sidewalk. It could be connected but probably not idk they just sounded very familiar.
Scott does not want us to solve this story
The way I see it is that the spirits in fnaf are the manifestation of lingering memories and emotions. It tracks with the silver eyes where Charlie says that not ghosts, but memories and emotions linger. Lamar goes on to say that she’s talking about some essence that hangs around after a person is gone and says “that’s a ghost”. Marla mentions that people shed these experiences everywhere they go and everybody catches traces of people they’ve never met before. The word trace is important because that is a synonym for remnant. And all of this comes together in fazbear frights where talbert says remnant is the mixing of “memory with the present. The people and things that are lost, it makes them almost real again”. When the lingering memories and emotions of a person bind to metal, that metal conducts this essence, facilitating the transfer of energy across the endoskeleton, allowing the dead to become almost real again. ie, possessed by the spirits of the dead.
I like to think remnant is a general term, like agony is an emotion but it is still remnant if that makes sense
I love this background musicccc!!!! I dont remember what game its from (mario but not specific) but the feelings it brings!!
4:10 YES!!! THANK GOD!!! SOMEONE FINALLY MADE THE JOKE I'VE BEEN MAKING IN MY HEAD SINCE THE INTRODUCTION OF THE CONCEPT!!!!
mat pat is lucky he retired when he did before having to potentially have to face the idea that the funny wet floor signs might be missing persons forcibly transformed by magic into said signs, and that there is precedent for such a thing in the franchise.
For those who don't know, the Talbert that Rye refuses to talk about is a "leak" for the Fazbear Logbook, which from my understanding was a huge hoax.
the. the story of the guy melting down the different agonys into 1 (the endoskeleton) really reminded me of the . candy cadet stories? :O (only partway through the video but just wanted to mention it)
i can't wait to see Flawpeacock to end up going down the same insanity rabbit hole as Toast and MatPat
The story about the children at play sign made me think maybe the paper pal signs could be something similar? Obviously not much evidence but still interesting thought
The whole "Kids at Play" story sticks out to me, but only because the way the signs function reminds me too much of how Stands work in Jojo's Bizarre Adventure. Everything about those signs falls right in line with the supernatural phenomenon from JJBA down to the gore. In this case it seems like the ability is automatic, with the range of the ability extending as far as the signs are spread. The trigger for the ability falls in line with Jojo as well, since the trigger is specific enough that the ability of the signs is only activated when the condition is met. In this case, the trigger is activated when anyone in range of the signs physically harms a kid. It would explain why the initial puddle of goop (which likely WAS a dog) was affected by the signs. The fact that the target of the signs has a grace period between activation and transformation is notable; it means that there's some sort of rule that the signs must follow before they're allowed to turn a target. It's like you said, if he had "turned himself in" he probably would have been spared.
I can barely focus on literally anything else but the cat being held like a little baby its so cute 😭
Is the head of the Freddy Bobblehead actually on your mic, rather than the background?? I keep seeing your hand go behind it, and it looks like it's attached to the mic, as like, a pin.
With Scott not knowing specific details about the plot in the beginning but knowing he wanted a bigger story, I wonder if there are basic themes we should consider. Anger versus happy memories, moving on or remaining as a spirit. With Scott's religious background I bet redemption is at play, too. I wonder if we'll ever get a character who has a bunch of both and should let the remnant win. Just a thought
I was too distracted and vibing by instrumental "hello, banana" in the intro
5:19 exactly what I thought of reading the story💀
i just recently brought i think all if not most of the fazbear frights for like super cheap $18 aud or like $10usd
I'm not going to joke about Five Nights at Freddy. I thought about it though.
4:08
When the one thing you want.
Is the only thing out of your reeeeach.
I love into the woods
I have been waiting for a FNAF theorist to reference into the woods 😂
Was not expecting an Into the Woods reference. Nice.
wait why does the sign thing actually make so much sense for those little wet floor guys--
You've got some info twisted... there are 3 souls inside the stitchwraith, not 2. The 3rd is what kills people. Jake mentions this.
The title needs an extra 's after Freddy lol
"Five Nights at Freddy" lol
Omg LOVE the Into The Woods reference 😂 AGONYYYY
Dang, Riley. You got some pipes! #AgonyMiseryWoe!
All staff meeting being the yellow warning signs is WILD but also yes fully canon it’s just the truth 😂
Theory idea we know where 2 of the agony items Come from. 1. The paper plates are the paper pals from the restaurants. 2. The empty Jack in the box is from Jackie from secret of the mimics in the d3mo she apparently rips themself out of their jack in the box. The mirror I'm not sure but maybe the mirror Micheal looks in after being colonoscopied by ennard. And the endo 'could' be the Mimic but I'm not so hot on that idea now I'm typing it out 😅 just an idea though
4:08 YES THE INTO THE WOODS REFERENCE
I love the Bonnie art
In the storyteller (SPOILERS IF YOU HAVEN’T READ THE BOOK) theirs a quote that says
All the happy chants and screams was like an electrical circuit that if it could have been harnessed probably would’ve generated enough power to run a dozen pizzaplex’s.
Another quote is
he ideally wonder how it might be possible to channel human joy into a machine.
The way I take this, it seems that fazbear entertainment llc at some point is aware of the supernatural energy of both positive and negative human emotions and want to someone harness its power to use it for things like powering certain machines, we already know about agony and how it works but the storyteller story seems to be introducing the idea of agony’s counterpart Joy, that could explain the pizzaplex animatronics, maybe instead of being possessed by ghost or just having really advance AI their actually infused with the energy of both Joy and Agony.
Wild, last FNaF story I read was Kids at Play, I was going to read Find Player Two later today. I'm also reading through all the FNaF books atm.
I never really considered the idea of the Caution Bots being like that, that's an interesting idea.
I tried to think of reasoning behind everything that goes on in the FNaF books but ngl, so many things ended up just being unexplained that I kinda gave up in the latter half trying to think of ways to explain everything.
What caused things like Kids at Play to happen? Was it similar to Lonely Freddy where those things have a soul themselves that enter you and force you into doing stuff?
There's a lot of things in Fazbear Frights, specifically things created by Fazbear Entertainment that feel like they have a soul but weirdly don't feel like they're a person, like they're artificial souls somehow created by Fazbear Entertainment.
To elaborate, was Lonely Freddy another victim before soul-swapping? I doubt it, the bear's behaviour is drastically different to the behaviour of the victims, that's what I mean by it feels like they're an "aritificial soul".
Edit after going to the bathroom: I wonder if the Plushbabies function similarly. Fazbear Entertainment deliberately giving artificial life to the product. I don't know, I had this thought just now and haven't really had the time to think about it.
Yay! a new theory on my bday 🥹❤️🩹
A+ Into the Woods joke, will watch again
I wonder if AR is having us collect the memory that would later be converted into Remnant.
4:08 Bruh... I got an ad and then afterwards, suddenly you were singing and I didn't know why until I went back XD
11:30 not me trying to match up your hand movements lol 😂
13:00 Context?
Had to dig a bit but apparently there was a leak way back when, before FFPS, called the Talbert files which were ideas Scott scrapped. RyeToast seems to just be explaining that they're not gonna go into that rabbithole, since it's scrapped info, for the people who know about that leak.
I might be wrong though. Maybe it's about something else.
7:39 jack in the box?
Eleanor has Tsukuyomi?
Honestly yeah I don't know why I didn't think of this comparison. That's genius
@@RyeToast I did not know that , this books go wild
So in the story he rye toast mentions the puppet attacks a kid that try’s on the Freddy mask, probably having something to do with agony or some residual spiritual energy right? Is that another reason why the fnaf animatronics all attack Micheal throughout the locations and he can see the phantoms? Even if he looks like his dad after he’s scooped what if he has residual agony or remnant from them not just his own keeping him together. That’s why the animatronics attack possibly, they can sense bits of themselves inside. That could also explain the phantoms, lingering bits of remnant or agony manifesting. Sort of like Carlton’s dreams after William injects him.
6:03 agony radiates father?!? i gotta get me some agony to attract some single dads...
Maybe he means directly connected to the books by the books being in universe to the games as actual books
Every time an employee slips on the floor in the pizzaplex, they decide not to put a wet floor sign there. They then start to get paranoid and think, "what if someone saw me slip and not put a wet floor sign there?!" Their body then involuntarily walks over to the wet spot on the floor and they turn into wet floor sign bots. It's a good thing Cassie deactivates them.👍