Her parents actually divorced due to her murder. They still come together to celebrate her life and advocate for safety but it’s heartbreaking to see the additional damage these monsters leave behind.
@@tallapartment6776 I couldn't even imagine...I don't know how I'd go one. 😓 I've some serious respect for those who've lost a child and still find some reason to live 🙏 May God bless you all.
@@whimsical_me5135 I heard her younger sister interviewed- she said she's corresponded with Travis in prison. He's told her that Kenia didn't deserve what he did (obviously) and that he did it simply because he's an evil, dark person.
@@ekbrandon93 Somehow, I feel like that’s still an attention grab… like woe is me. Keep writing me! I know what I did is wrong but I’m ready to change!🙄
In another documentary about this crime her dad said that in the initial days she was missing he tracked the guy down and convinced him to meet up to try to get any information at all from him. He said that as soon as he looked into his eyes he knew he had killed his child. But he played it cool to try and get more details. The resiliency and determination of the family is amazing.
The fact that she was kicked out of the bar for being too intoxicated (her friends said she drank the same amount as them and they suspected she was roofied) without all her stuff, and without getting her a cab or at least trying to get her a ride home honestly makes me feel sick, even if it was taking her to the hospital via ambulance (calling 911) so she could "sober up", this wouldn't have happened. Also the fact he had that cooler in his workplace around so many ppl, he was cocky and so confident he would never get caught.
"If someone killed me, I would want to be buried somewhere nice" Proceeds to burn someone alive in an attempt to hide evidence after a heinous crime against another innocent woman.
@@sarahalbers5555 There can't be anything worse - if you think of the 1st to 2nd degree burns you get from household accidents, they already hurt quite bad 😕!
@@ElaAusDemTal Getting steamed alive is much worse. Fire destroys nerves, steam preserves them and you will feel the pain throughout your entire body until you die. There was someone that fell into a sewer hole in new york, a boiler leak into the sewer filled that part with steam and boiling water. Gruesome
@@DennisTea yeah I saw that on Mr Ballen's channel. When I read this comment I thought to myself.. Ah I think falling into a manhole full of steam and living for 30 min suffering the whole time while rescuers can do nothing because it is too hot to go in is the top. But burning to death is not a competition and I am glad Travis got 8000 years in prison. I lol'ed when I saw his earliest release date is Dec 31 9998...
@Steve Rogers But now he's not labeled sex offender and goes to a regular prison. Not knowing that they actually do watch tv.. he'll get what he feared the most.
I felt a bit sick when he was trying to be all "sentimental" about how he buried Kenia. "I buried her next to some trees because I wanted her to be somewhere nice" ...wow....what a fucking HERO. Hope everything he feared about prison is happening to him on the daily.
y'all making fun of him, but if he was a decently attractive woman, that would fool the cops, judge and jury and he'd get off with the lightest possible sentence... You know... like Casey Anthony did for killing her child.
He's so thoughtful in wanting to bury her near trees or water. It must be really hard to sit and listen to these guys without wanting to beat the shit out of them
Her ‘step’ father comes to my old graduate program every year and her memory is very much alive through him in the community… absolute pleasure meeting him
Thank you Tasha - your post re Kenia’s step father is beautiful. Ignore the two idiots talking only to each other about their religious views in your comments.
Sweet, that's a cool little bit ta add to this. 😔 I feel for her family, i can't imagine what having something like this happen to someone you love would feel like.
No mate I am too crazy to be a person, I am less intelligent than our clever primates okay okey you got me and my stupidity I mean orangutan, chimpanzee, and monkeys, are too intelligent compared to me
With his lack of self esteem &inflated ego he just couldn't help himself, is what I'm guessing. I hope prison is everything he was worried it would be.
@@hardyquinn9442He was just so scared and wanted to do something to relieve his stress, he thought he was covering his bases in case they found out he had her.
Knowing that Lydia survived such a brutal incident because of her own tenacious will to live, as well as the phenomenal skill of all the doctors and nurses concerned. Incredible.
@@nbs90 this isn't about Lydia, this is Kenia's story anyways ❤ Though they are forever entangled, they are not one in the same. I think you're misunderstanding.
"I don't want to be labeled a sex offender" (first day of prison): OKAY YALL, THIS GUY RIGHT HERE? DEFINITELY *NOT* A SEX OFFENDER! HEY EVERYONE! HES NOT A SEX OFFENDER! OK, that should avoid any confusion. Good luck pal.
I may be wrong but I think inmates are allowed television sets ( big mistake). It may not take them much time to figure out why ole' Travis is sitting down in cellblock C.
Somebody will find out and it will get around. Ao many other prisoners would have seen him in court, talked to officers, the victins family could get the word to someone in an attempt to cause him trouble, crooked staff and guards, and of course the most likely event of him actually twlling someone he thinks he can trust. Prison is a fucked up place and if you get some info on someone ot gains you a bit of cred.
@@RByrne I read a thing about a max security prison and one inmate said the guards would secretly show newspaper clippings, etc to specific long-term inmates so they'd know who the pedos and other sex criminals were.
It’s so creepy how he was literally just hanging out waiting to follow drunk girls home and possibly assault/murder them as well while literally still a suspect in a murder case. Thank god those undercover cops were there!
"In her statement, she wrote:"Travis Forbes, you caused me no harm. My spirit, my soul and my mind remain untouched. May you find peace in this life." It took her over an hour to compose the three sentences which she wrote by hand on a piece of notebook paper."
I went to high school with Kenia. We weren’t really friends, but hung out with similar people. I remember when she disappeared and then learning about what happened. It disturbed me so deeply that someone I knew, going to the same places I did, met this kind of fate. It’s haunting to see her photos again. May Kenia be resting in power.
@thebirdee Rest in Power, instead of Rest in Peace, means, at least in my mind, that someones legacy lives beyond their life and is typically used when their death is tragic, unjust, violent and untimely. It seemed to fit for how I feel about Kenia, so I used that form of RIP.
Hearing stories like this always takes me back to a night in college on New Year’s Eve. I was in a college town. Walking home alone, and a man in a car pulled over asking if I wanted a ride home. While there may be well intentioned men out there, you never know. So I said no, but he followed me for a while, and once I knew he couldn’t see me, entered my home. You. Never. Know. Ladies, don’t risk it.
You did the right thing. No man should offer any woman a ride anywhere, ever. If he has sincere concerns for her wellbeing he should call the police and give them her location, period. If he wants, he can wait in his car until they get there. It doesn't matter if he's "a good guy" because the point I'm making is that this is what good guys should do, always, if they (or any woman, for that matter) are concerned and want to follow through. My husband and I saw a young woman stumbling along a dark street in the college town we lived in. After a brief "should we or shouldn't we?" conversation, we slowed and I asked her from the driver side window if she was okay. She was clearly extremely intoxicated. Fortunately, campus police were located less than a block away, across from our house. We called them. To this day I still feel bad about stopping instead of just calling. Just because. We shouldn't have given her the option to make a potential gravely dangerous decision. I too had walked along that same quiet street in my college days and sometimes feel the chill of regret for doing that, myself. No one, man or woman, SHOULD have to worry about walking alone at night. If something bad happens to them, it's not their fault but the fault of the piece of shit who does it. Still, I wish there was more awareness among young women about the real dangers they face. Stay well xx
I was in a bar the other day, met a dude and it turned out we were both that chapter fans and had a great gas about Mike and the show. Goes to show that chapter brings together people from all walks of life!
My heart really goes out to the family and friends of the victims of every true crime I watch. For years I’ve been obsessed with true crime and often victims become just another name and the murderers are the ones that are hi-lighted. I love how Mike doesn’t hold back calling each monster out for the POS they are!!! Mike is the best!
It must have been tough for him, assaulting and murdering an innocent young girl then having to dig a hole all by himself. Poor guy, life can be really hard sometimes....
(When describing burying his victim's body next to a tree) "If someone killed me, I would hope they would at least bury me next to something nice." That might be the most psychotic statement I've ever heard in one of these interviews.
@@ekbrandon93 ha I totally missed that one, you’re right. I hope they link his DNA to more victims, or that his ego gets the better of him and he reveals where the others are.
In 1984, I got a lift in Colorado from a guy in one of those white “Serial Killer” vans. I got bad vibes from the guy so when he stopped for petrol, I got out to leave and the guy tried everything to get me to stay, but I legged it. My whole body told me that he was a murderer.
But what terrible trauma to never really get over. Such an innocent night of watching fireworks and being snuck up on and savagely attacked and set aflame. I don't know how a person would be able to comprehend what/why that happened let alone recover.
She was prosecuted/cut a deal. "The judge sentenced her to 60 days in county jail and four years of supervised probation. She was also ordered to complete 2,000 hours of community service and seek mental-health counseling."
I've seen other channels here that focus on true crimes and this is the only one that doesn't just recycle everything that was in the public news story. I love it here
Kenia's stepfather loved her sooooo much!!! It's heartwarming to see this much love from parent to child, because it's not always like that. The CCTV footage is terrifying, Kenia is so young, beautiful, intoxicated, and naive. This could have happened to me when I was in my 20's. To all the young women reading this, understand that the way the world SHOULD be and the way it IS are entirely different things. Protect yourself from predators, because they don't care what they should or should not do.
This is the SCARIEST kind of murderer to me. I was totally eating his shit up- he presents himself as kind, humble, emotional, and HONEST. It makes me think he’s either sick in the head and truly believes he embodies those traits, or he’s an extremely manipulative and calculated person.
I think something in his life made him snap and he went into psycho mode and when he was caught he realized the gravity of what he had done. He doesn't seem like he wants notoriety or vengeance against a certain victim type. He genuinely seems like a sick man. He shouldn't get out though just because he's sick he's too dangerous.
Wait - The family & police only discovered Travis because he TEXTED HER the following day?!! So if he hadn’t done that, they never would have connected him to her???
In his confession to police at the end, he said he left his credit card buried in the grave with her. When asked why, he said he didn't WANT to get caught, but figured if they found the body, then he deserved to be caught. So he left identification. Because of this statement, I think he may have sent that text to her the next day (knowing she was dead) because he unconsciously wanted to be caught and find redemption for his crimes. I'm just speculating. The other thing too is, sometimes the murderers or attackers insert themselves into investigations on purpose because they want to find out what the police know. Or they want attention. There are probably a variety of psychological reason, some may not be done intentionally. But the whole leaving the credit card behind thing, makes sense with him also sending a text to attract attention to himself. He was spiraling out of control.
@@YTStoleMyUsername he definitely did not do it because he wanted to get caught. He was still covering his tracks because she had tried to call her phone from his phone to see if her friends would answer. So they knew his number already.
The SMILE on Lydia Tillman at 22:17, omg that affected me. She lived! Bless her I hope she has a full life and gets through the trauma. Kenia had a similar smile and I hope her family finds peace.
@@bobsaturday4273 If you're referring to my icon picture, it's part of a skull scarf I knitted once for someone else, so no, sorry I am not a pirate. :)
At this point I think we can all agree this is the best true crime channel on the whole internet, most detailed and cases we’ve never heard for the most part. Tree claps for that chapter and Mike 👏👏👏
yeah that footage is troubling. Is the assumption that she was roofied, and maybe some of the guys who took her got cold feet or disagreed with what was happening, started fighting, making a scene which made it easy for her to walk away? If so, the fact that she escaped predators only to get snatched up by a different one is just awful.
Guy looks like Beavis from Beavis and Butthead in the first couple of mugshots. Thank you, Mike, for bringing attention to the absolute pieces of poo in your stories, as well as highlighting the lives of the victims ❤️
Even funnier when rewatching Beavis & Butthead. The episode where they took cash from an ATM, and they did a dramatic recreation of the crime. They called one of them Travis
Same here! Well I think I've been around since about 500k, which was about a year ago. I've seen almost all of his videos 2-3 times. Glad to see him getting the success he deserves. Another good criminology channel to watch in tandem with some of Mike's videos is JCS - Criminal Psychology. Shows the interrogation of some of the suspects featured in That Chapter.
@MsMaryPatricia It could be but it might also be that now she had the car back, she didn't think that putting in all the time, hardship, and money for a court case would be worth it. I wouldn't say she was covering for him until we know the full story.
He was physically attractive. If he wasn't such a puke women would like him and he wouldn't have to do such things. Or he is just a sick creature. Damn if you don't love women leave them alone!
I think he would have got away with it, if he did not send that text. But than again again he was unraveling fast …. He would have been on their radar later if not sooner
Girls, look out for each other when you're out partying. You never know when predators are just waiting for a lone, vulnerable girl to leave the pack. *edit* psa: pls ignore the trash trolls in the comments shaming girls who drink or go out to have fun. we ain't gonna let them win, keep going out and take care of each other, ladies. have fun and be safe. xoxoxo
We spend so much time and effort teaching and lecturing women on how to avoid se*ual assault. Put your keys between your fingers like brass knuckles, don't get tipsy or intoxicated, dress modestly, take contraception just in case, carry pepper spray, carry a gun, don't go out alone, etc. I would love to see that much effort put into raising men who are taught emphatically to require the necessity of consent. I know so many wonderful, empathetic men. I want to have hope for our future, and for humanity to rein in their baser instincts.
I don’t know how these women who survive this type of an ordeal go on to make any kind of recovery… I mean, I am honestly just amazed at human resilience. May God bless every abuse survivor out there ❤️
That woman is a friggin beast. She survived all that crazy shit and still had the wherewithal to jump from the window and save herself with all the evidence needed to put that asshat away forever, saving many more women from having to endure what she went through. All that and making a full recovery and getting back to her life. She's a for real badass.
I think we all know that “true crime” channels run off a script, but Mike has to be the king of making it seem natural like it was no script ever at all 🙌🏾
@@ThatChapter At this point, everyone knows you're just the pretty face put out there for the masses. The hard work is done by the indentured servants in your basement. It's obvious.
A friend of mine went out that night with Kenia and they lost her at one of the clubs...my friend was 21 and Kenia was 19 and couldn't get in .... she said Kenia went somewhere else with her friends... This story is so heart breaking as I remember the search and when we didn't know what happened to her and even reposted some of her missing person posts and seeing the story unfold on the news... I also used to work at the hotel Kenia went inside (Hyatt regency at Colorado Convention Center) and know exactly where a CCTV of Kenia was taken (not included in this video) extremely devastating... 💔my heart goes out to her family.
I just love a murderer who can't stop himself from talking to the media. There's something so delicious about watching them think they are so clever, outsmarting everyone, when all the while they are just paving their own paths to prison.
And with the tears you can see how traumatized he is. This, poor, gutless, waste of skin, I just can't. It bothers me I breath the same air as him. With any luck, the people in his prison will find out what he did, and really give him what he truly deserves. BTW, great video, as always
"I wanted to bury her near some trees or some water......." Wow, what a stand up gent you are. I'm sure she'd totally forgive you, for you know, MURDERING her.
Right..?! "Gosh if someone lured me into a van at my most vulnerable then beat and strangled me to death (sniff sniff) I'd want to be buried next to something beautiful..." My God. Please stop this world. I want to get off. Sad & infuriating.
I'm afraid to let my girlfriend take a walk in the neighborhood I live in and the broad daylight even though this is a very low crime area. Sucks, but I don't like her walking alone
The doctor standing beside Lydia Tillman as she hugs the nurse looks so proud that his patient made it alive. Doctors and Nurses are Real True Heroes! Bravo! And...Bravo Lydia for staying alive!
Hey you! My name is Kat and in this old comment I just want to say thank you, Mike. You always put your best foot forward in doing these videos. You’ve done great work, as always. Your videos give me a much needed distraction from my every day life. Love ya! See ya soon.
This is true learn of this lie detection technique from a specialist who was studying the R. Kelly interview. Now when I watch crime shows almost every killer when answering did they do it..nods or moves their head in way similar to a yes nod.
That's harder to distinguish because sometimes people nod to affirm their answer. It depends on their baseline, because there are people who say no, mean no, and nod to say "yes, the answer is no", and there are people who don't. That said, another possible red flag is the lack of contraction. Again, it depends on their baseline, but it's common to say "did not" instead of "didn't" if you're lying because you think it sounds more sincere.
I don’t know if it was just me but this video was top quality, the music editing feels totally different. I’ve never missed an episode. Great job, Mike!
Ladies, please don’t lose sight of each other when you’re going out and PLEASE don’t get into a car of someone you don’t know, no matter how nice or normal they seem.
Some of my best adventures have come from meeting new people and going to after parties. People shouldnt just stop doing that because something like this sometimes happens. Id say if youre a female, be cautious and take a friend with you. If the guy is nice and chill and normal, he shouldnt have a problem with bringing the girls friends too. Be suspect if he seems hesitant to take anyone but the female.
Detective; "So why did you bury her near a tree?" Travis; "Because that's where I want to be buried". Detective; Ok, how does One this afternoon work for ya?"
The worst part about this is how much I have to admit that I put myself is SO many bad situations and how lucky I’ve been😐 Unfortunately we live in a society of predators who are willing to take advantage regardless of how vulnerable.
OMG this guy is absolutely terrifying, every woman's worst nightmare. We shouldn't have to plan safe ways home after a night out but guys like this exist - everywhere. Please check your drinks and have someone safe who can take you home.
@Alex F I always relied on my height and being built like a brick shithouse if and when I needed to walk around at night. Alert, walking with purpose, not giving anyone a reason to start something. It's not enough, unfortunately. A few close encounters showed me that some people are just mental and are looking for trouble. At least it got me learning self defense and fighting, but I don't want to walk around at night alone if I can help it. Sometimes a night walk is necessary because of my schedule but I stick to well lit and friendly neighborhoods and never go somewhere I don't know well.
@@megg.4108 Yep like I said better safe than sorry. I used to feel invincible when I was a teen lol but I realize now that there are some really fucked up people out there. Why risk it?
It’s amazing how even monsters want to think that they have a heart… him thinking that burying her next to “something nice” is the right thing to do… 😕
@@gremlinjerky8462 I thought that was a pretty wow moment, confirming psychology. Amazing how, even if someone is lying, they tell you the truth if you know those tells.
I remember this case. It was so sad. I have always taught my girls when you go out together, you go home together PERIOD! Never deviate from that and NEVER accept a drink from someone you don't know! Her friends even if they were not close should have known something was wrong that NIGHT!! What teenager leaves their purse AND cell phone?? None that I know of...
@@sammib5403 It's sad isn't it?? What is worse, well equally worse is now we have government officials telling us what we can and cannot do to our bodies...I feel like we are time traveling straight back to the dark ages. What's next real life handmaid's Tales??
@@hrdkorebp My 19 yo can shoot very well too!! My husband will teach the 6 year old how to shoot when it's time. I honestly know my 19 yo is going to drink I just ask her to be safe. Make sure they always pick a DD and don't take drinks from strangers. I just want them all to have fun but be safe while doing it. 🙏🏾
From your face to accent... then ending a video with "I love ya" You are just the nicest guy ever talking about the most tragic things. I have no doubt in my mind that the impact on the viewers here has saved at least one person's life as we tend to be more on guard after learning about how others met their end. Just wanted to say on behalf of my daughter and wife (and my ass) thank you Mike. Keep at it brother.
@@stimihendrix3404 The comments are for talking about the video and people choose to read the comments on their own. It’s not really polite to get upset at people for talking about the video in their comment after they have watched it and wishing the people who were affected good will and celebrating their recoveries.
Definitely wouldn’t say looking WELL but yea. Incredible she is alive and recovering. Also not your fault that this became top comment but it totally spoils the episode for everyone watching. It’s impossible not to see the first comment, it’s right under the video. Don’t spoil shit in the comments it’s rude
His interview at 12:10 gave me chills. “Did you murder her?” tries to strongly shake his head no but his body couldn’t lie. It also gave me creepy vibes like he was holding back a huge smirk the hold time 🤢🤢🤢
12:27 Journalist: "Did you murder her?" Travis: Nodding YES quickly while saying "I did not", turning into nodding no, while answering "no". Body language speaks volumes.
@@chezceleste The channel 'The Behaviour Panel' calls it a non-contracted denial, always a red flag. You're right - an innocent person would say "I didn't".
@@truecrimeboozer sounds like bunko to me. People use non-contracted statements like "did not" and "cannot" for added emphasis all the time. Yeah I know, we see the guilty guy do it here, but how many innocent people do we not see doing it? Same goes for the body language and and use of the past tense that all the super sleuths on here go on about.
There's safety in numbers . Don't be the singled out one because you're alone , no one to help you in any way , no one to be a witness , etc. One thing my father used to tell my sisters and me , whenever we asked him for permission to go dancing , he would tell us always wait to be the last ones to order your drink , then ask to have the same drink as the guy that wants to buy you a drink, When you get the drink , switch it for the guys' and if he refuses to get your drink , that means he paid the waiter to have your drink laced . We did it several times , and sometimes the guy left the drink and walked away .
"...and his girlfriend confirmed his story of that night." *Throws up her photo.* Me: Something about that mugshot tells me she may not have been entirely honest...
That “hey you” never ceases to feel like a great big hug from a long missed friend!
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OMG! This is soooo true! And at the end when he says I luv ya, Mike out. Makes me smile every time! And I say it back LOL
I always smile!
I want it to be my text tone
Her parents actually divorced due to her murder. They still come together to celebrate her life and advocate for safety but it’s heartbreaking to see the additional damage these monsters leave behind.
@J Errety Your child dying is like being hit in the chest with a sledge hammer; it is hard to recover from that.
@@tallapartment6776 I couldn't even imagine...I don't know how I'd go one. 😓
I've some serious respect for those who've lost a child and still find some reason to live 🙏
May God bless you all.
I can't imagine how difficult it must be for Kenia's younger siblings, as well😥 I hope they've found a way to survive and thrive in this world.
@@whimsical_me5135 I heard her younger sister interviewed- she said she's corresponded with Travis in prison. He's told her that Kenia didn't deserve what he did (obviously) and that he did it simply because he's an evil, dark person.
@@ekbrandon93 Somehow, I feel like that’s still an attention grab… like woe is me. Keep writing me! I know what I did is wrong but I’m ready to change!🙄
In another documentary about this crime her dad said that in the initial days she was missing he tracked the guy down and convinced him to meet up to try to get any information at all from him. He said that as soon as he looked into his eyes he knew he had killed his child. But he played it cool to try and get more details. The resiliency and determination of the family is amazing.
He brought his gun to that meeting . He was intent on killing him.
@@russeldevries7082 which is understandable
I watched that same documentary. This is truly heartbreaking 💔
Which documentary?
@@thelurkinyoutuber1823 Think it was Dateline but if not, you should be able to find it pretty easily with a search 👍
The fact that she was kicked out of the bar for being too intoxicated (her friends said she drank the same amount as them and they suspected she was roofied) without all her stuff, and without getting her a cab or at least trying to get her a ride home honestly makes me feel sick, even if it was taking her to the hospital via ambulance (calling 911) so she could "sober up", this wouldn't have happened. Also the fact he had that cooler in his workplace around so many ppl, he was cocky and so confident he would never get caught.
"If someone killed me, I would want to be buried somewhere nice"
Proceeds to burn someone alive in an attempt to hide evidence after a heinous crime against another innocent woman.
Ikr? Burning someone alive? I can't imagine anything much worse.
@@sarahalbers5555
There can't be anything worse - if you think of the 1st to 2nd degree burns you get from household accidents, they already hurt quite bad 😕!
@@ElaAusDemTal Getting steamed alive is much worse. Fire destroys nerves, steam preserves them and you will feel the pain throughout your entire body until you die. There was someone that fell into a sewer hole in new york, a boiler leak into the sewer filled that part with steam and boiling water. Gruesome
Yeah he was just playing for sympathy. Listen to that pathetic voice he puts on. It is even more pathetic than his normal voice.
@@DennisTea yeah I saw that on Mr Ballen's channel. When I read this comment I thought to myself.. Ah I think falling into a manhole full of steam and living for 30 min suffering the whole time while rescuers can do nothing because it is too hot to go in is the top. But burning to death is not a competition and I am glad Travis got 8000 years in prison. I lol'ed when I saw his earliest release date is Dec 31 9998...
Travis: “I’ll confess if you don’t label me as a sex offender.”
Mike: Don’t worry, we’ll make sure to get the word out.
In this state the sex offenders have their own prison, and sadly it is full.
@@steverogers2603 Not surprising actually.
Lol
@@steverogers2603 holy shit..really?
@Steve Rogers But now he's not labeled sex offender and goes to a regular prison. Not knowing that they actually do watch tv.. he'll get what he feared the most.
I felt a bit sick when he was trying to be all "sentimental" about how he buried Kenia. "I buried her next to some trees because I wanted her to be somewhere nice" ...wow....what a fucking HERO. Hope everything he feared about prison is happening to him on the daily.
Yeah, wow even though your a murderer, deep down you are a sensitive guy. Ok. 2 weeks in jail
For some reason that makes me wish for him to have a more severe punishment
meanwhile he tried to burn another woman alive
I would have said: yes ? How about the other victim who you wanted to burn alive ?!?! Pfff pure evil
y'all making fun of him, but if he was a decently attractive woman, that would fool the cops, judge and jury and he'd get off with the lightest possible sentence... You know... like Casey Anthony did for killing her child.
He's so thoughtful in wanting to bury her near trees or water.
It must be really hard to sit and listen to these guys without wanting to beat the shit out of them
And when the police do snap and hurt some, highly deserving, scum they get attacked on media for being evil and.... well, America loots itself.
@@RosieWilliamOlivia I hardly see the police murdering serial killers, mass shooters etc.. But 🐸☕️
@@taurusmama1317 who would report it? CNN? 😉😂
@@RosieWilliamOlivia it doesn’t happen. Come off it.
Yeah, I couldn't do it.
Her ‘step’ father comes to my old graduate program every year and her memory is very much alive through him in the community… absolute pleasure meeting him
Thank you Tasha - your post re Kenia’s step father is beautiful. Ignore the two idiots talking only to each other about their religious views in your comments.
Sweet, that's a cool little bit ta add to this. 😔 I feel for her family, i can't imagine what having something like this happen to someone you love would feel like.
My deepest apologies
@@4Mr.Crowley2 lol they're pathetic
@@joshlink2129 evil struck my family bro, the damage and pain stays with you and don't fade.
The fact that Lydia made a full recovery was astounding and made me SO happy
What a legend
Miracles do happen, God bless that woman, matter of fact bless all women and please stay safe out there!!!🙏💖🙏
What an incredible fighter she is!
@@tarabaker521 🙏👌💖
Wholesome af
I've seen multiple interviews of Kenia's step-father. You can tell he really loved her like his own. RIP Kenia
He really did. He almost killed Travis himself!
@J Errety Stop spamming with your dumb comments.
He seems like a really really good guy.
“What would I do in Mexico?”
“Get a tan”
That detective lol
No mate I am too crazy to be a person, I am less intelligent than our clever primates okay okey you got me and my stupidity I mean orangutan, chimpanzee, and monkeys, are too intelligent compared to me
@@jonathancox4189 we get you, you want to build a wall and let Mexiko pay for it, the Orang utang you said:-D
@@herzkine rent free.
Did Travis graduate from the Chris Watts School of Acting!? A one star performance. 👎🏻
I give it half a star.
@ David Santa Carla ... Lol 😂.. To right..
At the top of that class. But other child murderers come before him, sadly.
You're being very generous with that 1 star rating.
Thankfully!!!!
the fake concern, fake cry "what's her name?" interview- classic Travis.
ohh travie.. always with the classics!
Classic psychopath
And they'll all end up knowing what he did in prison real quick. I wonder if he thinks he'll "fake" them out in there, lol!
I wish I could see the reporter's reaction when he said that.
Like , Whats her name? But he knew her mobile number to send the fake message. Idiot.
Kids asleep, watching That Chapter at 4am (South Korea) with a cup of coffee. Perfect start to my day! 😁😊👍
Over here in southern US and it’s a mid-afternoon delight. I’d def still watch if it was a 4am thing as well. :)
That's an early start!
Salutations from The US 👋
Finland, 10:30pm just got in to bed.
So early!
Can you imagine how this would have dragged out if he hadn’t sent that unnecessary text when no-one knew that he had even given her a ride?
King Bite In The Ass: EGO
THATS HOW DUMB THEY ARE
And thank God he did!
With his lack of self esteem &inflated ego he just couldn't help himself, is what I'm guessing.
I hope prison is everything he was worried it would be.
@@hardyquinn9442He was just so scared and wanted to do something to relieve his stress, he thought he was covering his bases in case they found out he had her.
Knowing that Lydia survived such a brutal incident because of her own tenacious will to live, as well as the phenomenal skill of all the doctors and nurses concerned. Incredible.
Thanks for the spoiler
@@nbs90 haha dont read comments before watching thats yt 101 mate
@@nbs90 You've been on YT 11 years....wtf you reading comments for if you don't want spoilers? 😂
You should see her interview on Dateline. It's one of the most touching and powerful things I've ever seen on TV.
@@nbs90 this isn't about Lydia, this is Kenia's story anyways ❤ Though they are forever entangled, they are not one in the same. I think you're misunderstanding.
I love it when he says ‘I love ya’, makes me feel all warm and cozy, and that smile .... ***sigh***
We love you back, Mike!
same 😊
Yes we do 😊
Yea, you got that right. Mike is by far my favorite content creator. This channel is the very best youtube has to offer, IMO obviously. 💜
Leaves all y'all's panties a lil creamy huh!
We love you right back..!!
"I don't want to be labeled a sex offender"
(first day of prison): OKAY YALL, THIS GUY RIGHT HERE? DEFINITELY *NOT* A SEX OFFENDER! HEY EVERYONE! HES NOT A SEX OFFENDER! OK, that should avoid any confusion. Good luck pal.
right!? that’s just gonna make anyone look like a sex offender
I may be wrong but I think inmates are allowed television sets ( big mistake). It may not take them much time to figure out why ole' Travis is sitting down in cellblock C.
Sure there is no TV in the prison. I bet Mike and his show are not allowed!
Somebody will find out and it will get around. Ao many other prisoners would have seen him in court, talked to officers, the victins family could get the word to someone in an attempt to cause him trouble, crooked staff and guards, and of course the most likely event of him actually twlling someone he thinks he can trust. Prison is a fucked up place and if you get some info on someone ot gains you a bit of cred.
@@RByrne I read a thing about a max security prison and one inmate said the guards would secretly show newspaper clippings, etc to specific long-term inmates so they'd know who the pedos and other sex criminals were.
It’s so creepy how he was literally just hanging out waiting to follow drunk girls home and possibly assault/murder them as well while literally still a suspect in a murder case. Thank god those undercover cops were there!
Not gonna lie… it absolutely makes my day when you say, “I love ya, Mike out.”
Same! My dog and I watch them together, I always reply “we love you too Mike”
You two should message each other you pair of lonely souls
@@bigsteve6729 LOL
And the wink!!
Don’t know many who can pull off a super charming wink. 😉
Right?! We love you too, Mike! 🤗
Seeing Lydia smile at the end made me tear up. I am so glad she survived and recovered and I hope she is living an awesome life now.
Same. Poor Lydia, I’m glad she’s recovered.
now, she's proving to others that, no matter how hard a blow life has dealt them, they can roll free of it. A yoga teacher! That is great.
"In her statement, she wrote:"Travis Forbes, you caused me no harm. My spirit, my soul and my mind remain untouched. May you find peace in this life."
It took her over an hour to compose the three sentences which she wrote by hand on a piece of notebook paper."
I went to high school with Kenia. We weren’t really friends, but hung out with similar people. I remember when she disappeared and then learning about what happened. It disturbed me so deeply that someone I knew, going to the same places I did, met this kind of fate. It’s haunting to see her photos again. May Kenia be resting in power.
Hey
Damn lot of people knew her
You don't have to be friends with someone to feel upset she was murdered. Just so sad she was murdered x
@@skinlesswalnut6259 Cherry Creek Highschool is a big school! My graduating class of 2010 was about 1,000 people.
@thebirdee Rest in Power, instead of Rest in Peace, means, at least in my mind, that someones legacy lives beyond their life and is typically used when their death is tragic, unjust, violent and untimely. It seemed to fit for how I feel about Kenia, so I used that form of RIP.
Hearing stories like this always takes me back to a night in college on New Year’s Eve. I was in a college town. Walking home alone, and a man in a car pulled over asking if I wanted a ride home. While there may be well intentioned men out there, you never know. So I said no, but he followed me for a while, and once I knew he couldn’t see me, entered my home. You. Never. Know. Ladies, don’t risk it.
You did the right thing. No man should offer any woman a ride anywhere, ever. If he has sincere concerns for her wellbeing he should call the police and give them her location, period. If he wants, he can wait in his car until they get there. It doesn't matter if he's "a good guy" because the point I'm making is that this is what good guys should do, always, if they (or any woman, for that matter) are concerned and want to follow through.
My husband and I saw a young woman stumbling along a dark street in the college town we lived in. After a brief "should we or shouldn't we?" conversation, we slowed and I asked her from the driver side window if she was okay. She was clearly extremely intoxicated. Fortunately, campus police were located less than a block away, across from our house. We called them.
To this day I still feel bad about stopping instead of just calling. Just because. We shouldn't have given her the option to make a potential gravely dangerous decision.
I too had walked along that same quiet street in my college days and sometimes feel the chill of regret for doing that, myself. No one, man or woman, SHOULD have to worry about walking alone at night. If something bad happens to them, it's not their fault but the fault of the piece of shit who does it. Still, I wish there was more awareness among young women about the real dangers they face.
Stay well xx
I was in a bar the other day, met a dude and it turned out we were both that chapter fans and had a great gas about Mike and the show.
Goes to show that chapter brings together people from all walks of life!
Did you go home with him?
Glad you lived to tell the story. Keep safe out there.
@@user-wo7dl6tb2q Of course NOT. They watch Mike and heed his warnings !!!
I hope !!!
Did you both say, "Lets give it a gooooo" and leave together? OMG I hope you both didn't shout Mike's name at "that crucial moment."
Which one of y'all drive a white van? J/k. But hey, that's so cool when u meet someone and u both watch That Chapter ✌
I'm very sure these women aren't the only ones. This guy is a monster.
I’m sure at the least he has a long history of SA that’s never been reported.
This is a serial killer just getting started.
@@alliekattlopez5535 I don't think so. I think he's started before that.
@@kikastra No I meant as a low count of bodies so far, the count would raise.
It seems it must inevitably be that this is so, alas.
My heart really goes out to the family and friends of the victims of every true crime I watch. For years I’ve been obsessed with true crime and often victims become just another name and the murderers are the ones that are hi-lighted. I love how Mike doesn’t hold back calling each monster out for the POS they are!!! Mike is the best!
Real shit just hope that we don't be the one's Mike be talking about this is old but sad GOD bless w×
Ditto!!💯 Mike's page and 'This is monsters' page are my absolute favorite go-to pages. Not glorifying the sicko- physcos.
I am in total agreement.😁 (Bananas24).
Mike's the man!
Why did some of the family refer to her in the past tense before even knowing any details?
It must have been tough for him, assaulting and murdering an innocent young girl then having to dig a hole all by himself. Poor guy, life can be really hard sometimes....
(When describing burying his victim's body next to a tree) "If someone killed me, I would hope they would at least bury me next to something nice."
That might be the most psychotic statement I've ever heard in one of these interviews.
Especially considering he literally set a building on fire in an attempt to burn a woman alive to conceal his crime!
@@ekbrandon93 ha I totally missed that one, you’re right. I hope they link his DNA to more victims, or that his ego gets the better of him and he reveals where the others are.
“a guy named Travis. Off to a bad start there.” 😂
Isn't it the truth!
Yea, you could have called that the first strike ;p
Hello
In 1984, I got a lift in Colorado from a guy in one of those white “Serial Killer” vans. I got bad vibes from the guy so when he stopped for petrol, I got out to leave and the guy tried everything to get me to stay, but I legged it. My whole body told me that he was a murderer.
Always go with your gut feeling! Good for you.
Kenia's step-dad is one of the most honorable men I've ever seen. 😢
I'm so glad Lydia made it through all that!! She has a strong will to survive! Rip Kenia!
But what terrible trauma to never really get over. Such an innocent night of watching fireworks and being snuck up on and savagely attacked and set aflame. I don't know how a person would be able to comprehend what/why that happened let alone recover.
Cool you're the top comment and literally spoiled the episode
@@thecitizen6860 why tf would you come to the comments on a video you’re late to. Obviously people are going to be talking about the video idiot.
@@thecitizen6860 then you should've watched it before coming to the comments. You spoiled it for yourself 🤷🤦
Glad I looked down and saw the spoiler. Nice
I feel like Travis’ girlfriend should get some type of punishment for lying for him and saying he was home from 3-8am.
She was prosecuted/cut a deal. "The judge sentenced her to 60 days in county jail and four years of supervised probation. She was also ordered to complete 2,000 hours of community service and seek mental-health counseling."
I'm not sure but it looked like a mug shot that Mike shown a picture of. So hopefully!
@@kit-qw4oz that's SO MILD, judging the fact that she "obstructed justice" and misled the officers!
@@tuicastro4431 And because of this, another woman was attacked horribly...I am with you, she deserved more!
Umm yeah.
The "I love you" at the end gets me every time. Love you too, Mikey 😀
Lol, he's the best and I hope he knows how much his viewers love him back. He's the voice of reason and then some.😊💓
That"Hey you" never ceases to amaze me and make me smile, and feel like I'm hugged by a friend I haven't seen in a minute 🤗🤗🤗🐧🐧🐧🐢🐢🐢🐢
It never gets easier seeing the parents and friends and family hurt and scared for their loved ones, I hope they have found peace
"Did you murder her?"
**Nods head** "I did not, no."
🤦♀️🤦♀️🤦♀️
Ikr
I've seen other channels here that focus on true crimes and this is the only one that doesn't just recycle everything that was in the public news story. I love it here
Welcome
Mike's good people
Wow, well done Lydia Tillman, recovering from that horror. That is some inner strength.
Kenia's stepfather loved her sooooo much!!! It's heartwarming to see this much love from parent to child, because it's not always like that.
The CCTV footage is terrifying, Kenia is so young, beautiful, intoxicated, and naive. This could have happened to me when I was in my 20's. To all the young women reading this, understand that the way the world SHOULD be and the way it IS are entirely different things. Protect yourself from predators, because they don't care what they should or should not do.
It wouldn’t happen to me tho because im actually smart.
@Mack Edwards You also don't have to insult someone who suffered like that just because they aren't to your liking physically, but here we are.
@@emmarosie7176 wow, ur a hella mean person. Congrats
@@emmarosie7176 the cocky ones can get murked just as easily as the dumb ones, for the same reason, not thinking it can happen to you
I don't believe she was naive.
This is the SCARIEST kind of murderer to me. I was totally eating his shit up- he presents himself as kind, humble, emotional, and HONEST. It makes me think he’s either sick in the head and truly believes he embodies those traits, or he’s an extremely manipulative and calculated person.
I agree! He’s a Bundy type. So scary!
Proper psychopath...
He nodded his head while saying no. Dead give away
I think something in his life made him snap and he went into psycho mode and when he was caught he realized the gravity of what he had done. He doesn't seem like he wants notoriety or vengeance against a certain victim type. He genuinely seems like a sick man. He shouldn't get out though just because he's sick he's too dangerous.
The latter,definitely
Who grabs someone's phone and purse and thinks . Yeah she left on her own? I mean seriously. 😕
I know it wasn't their fault but she had some terrible friends.
That’s exactly what i was thinking
Shitty horrible friends!
I think they might have spiked her drink.
Wait - The family & police only discovered Travis because he TEXTED HER the following day?!! So if he hadn’t done that, they never would have connected him to her???
The freezer thing could have him caught
@@minokafonseca3229 they wouldn’t have bothered to check the cameras if he wasn’t a suspect
In his confession to police at the end, he said he left his credit card buried in the grave with her. When asked why, he said he didn't WANT to get caught, but figured if they found the body, then he deserved to be caught. So he left identification. Because of this statement, I think he may have sent that text to her the next day (knowing she was dead) because he unconsciously wanted to be caught and find redemption for his crimes. I'm just speculating. The other thing too is, sometimes the murderers or attackers insert themselves into investigations on purpose because they want to find out what the police know. Or they want attention. There are probably a variety of psychological reason, some may not be done intentionally. But the whole leaving the credit card behind thing, makes sense with him also sending a text to attract attention to himself. He was spiraling out of control.
Murderers are dumbasses.
@@YTStoleMyUsername he definitely did not do it because he wanted to get caught. He was still covering his tracks because she had tried to call her phone from his phone to see if her friends would answer. So they knew his number already.
The SMILE on Lydia Tillman at 22:17, omg that affected me. She lived! Bless her I hope she has a full life and gets through the trauma. Kenia had a similar smile and I hope her family finds peace.
are you a pirate ?
@@bobsaturday4273 If you're referring to my icon picture, it's part of a skull scarf I knitted once for someone else, so no, sorry I am not a pirate. :)
At this point I think we can all agree this is the best true crime channel on the whole internet, most detailed and cases we’ve never heard for the most part. Tree claps for that chapter and Mike 👏👏👏
Hello
Also Jim can't swim criminal psychology and aurace
JCS and coffeehouse crimes are awesome
@@MissRiceLyn Both those channels are awesome...JCS basically started a whole style that is being copied by other channels now
i remember this case, her stepdad really went hard for her. the footage of her walking around drunk alone is horrible
Yeah, and she was 4 foot11 inches tall--that's small--and only 90 lbs.
yeah that footage is troubling. Is the assumption that she was roofied, and maybe some of the guys who took her got cold feet or disagreed with what was happening, started fighting, making a scene which made it easy for her to walk away? If so, the fact that she escaped predators only to get snatched up by a different one is just awful.
Guy looks like Beavis from Beavis and Butthead in the first couple of mugshots. Thank you, Mike, for bringing attention to the absolute pieces of poo in your stories, as well as highlighting the lives of the victims ❤️
Even funnier when rewatching Beavis & Butthead. The episode where they took cash from an ATM, and they did a dramatic recreation of the crime. They called one of them Travis
Yesss !! Now that you mentioned it. I hated them tho'.
underage girl: leaves purse and phone behind in nightclub and disappears
friends: oh, they're probably fine.. lets go home guys
I know - that was ridiculous
I always wonder how the “friends” feel after something like this happens. Do they feel any guilt?
Right?! My thoughts exactly! We never left a friend behind when I was young. Unwritten rule.
@@westleyjay me too! The guilt would eat me alive!
I love how much success Mike is getting. Been here since 400k & He deserves everything he’s getting & more. Massive respect Mike
how do people remember how many subs a channel was at when they joined? that's amazing.
Same here! Well I think I've been around since about 500k, which was about a year ago. I've seen almost all of his videos 2-3 times. Glad to see him getting the success he deserves.
Another good criminology channel to watch in tandem with some of Mike's videos is JCS - Criminal Psychology. Shows the interrogation of some of the suspects featured in That Chapter.
For all you know, he could be a serial killer. Or just an asshole
I'm new. Binging so much, I can't sleep. Mike is special and my favorite number is tree !! What a coincidence.
At 13:13 when he said “What’s her name?” I rolled my eyes so hard. It was so obvious what he was trying to portray
That he had a one night stand? Or just pretending he didn't pay her any mind?
@@kryhmeworld1843 pretending that he barely spent any time with her and therefore couldn't possibly be involved with her disappearance...
@@dayaneoliveira1122 Ok, thought I was missing something... Thanks for the clarification
I more so got the impression that he has so many victims he couldn’t keep their names straight.
Call me what you will, but I appreciate when Mike titles the videos with the victims' name instead of the perps'.
Me too !! Mike's a compassionate guy ✌️
Yes 💯
Thank goodness Travis actually implicated himself instead of his intended purpose of creating plausible deniability.
@MsMaryPatricia
It could be but it might also be that now she had the car back, she didn't think that putting in all the time, hardship, and money for a court case would be worth it.
I wouldn't say she was covering for him until we know the full story.
He was physically attractive. If he wasn't such a puke women would like him and he wouldn't have to do such things. Or he is just a sick creature. Damn if you don't love women leave them alone!
@@darla2080 You saw his sick personality I guess!
@@michaelwhite2823 NOT attractive 🤮.
I think he would have got away with it, if he did not send that text. But than again again he was unraveling fast …. He would have been on their radar later if not sooner
Girls, look out for each other when you're out partying. You never know when predators are just waiting for a lone, vulnerable girl to leave the pack.
*edit* psa: pls ignore the trash trolls in the comments shaming girls who drink or go out to have fun. we ain't gonna let them win, keep going out and take care of each other, ladies. have fun and be safe. xoxoxo
Guy’s too! Girls slip drugs in guys drinks these days 😳
Maybe people should look out for each other
We spend so much time and effort teaching and lecturing women on how to avoid se*ual assault. Put your keys between your fingers like brass knuckles, don't get tipsy or intoxicated, dress modestly, take contraception just in case, carry pepper spray, carry a gun, don't go out alone, etc. I would love to see that much effort put into raising men who are taught emphatically to require the necessity of consent. I know so many wonderful, empathetic men. I want to have hope for our future, and for humanity to rein in their baser instincts.
@@RowanWarren78 Brilliantly put! Thank you for taking the time to put this out in the world. I hear you all the way from Australia.
@@johndoe1704 just ask cardi b
I don’t know how these women who survive this type of an ordeal go on to make any kind of recovery… I mean, I am honestly just amazed at human resilience. May God bless every abuse survivor out there ❤️
people can suffer with derealazation/depersonalisation after tragic events
Thank you !
Walshy, you are 100% right.
That woman is a friggin beast. She survived all that crazy shit and still had the wherewithal to jump from the window and save herself with all the evidence needed to put that asshat away forever, saving many more women from having to endure what she went through. All that and making a full recovery and getting back to her life. She's a for real badass.
You rarely hear about the aftermath that the victims deal with the rest of their lives. But it's there, severely, and usually permanently.
Women having terrible taste in men, what else is new.
I love the fact they put him in the 'soft' interrogation room. What a crybaby..
May be due to these insanely hard 2 years we’ve had but Mike saying he loves us just makes my day.
And we love Mike in return
Sometimes I may lose interest in the story but I watch until the end to hear Mike say "Love ya". It sounds so sincere.
thats very sad ...why was this "these insanely hard 2 years " for you ? did you get sick and die ?
@@user-eb6xc3fq2m can I sell you a used car ?
@@bobsaturday4273 no but my dad did.
Thanks for asking. 😒
I think we all know that “true crime” channels run off a script, but Mike has to be the king of making it seem natural like it was no script ever at all 🙌🏾
He is so smooth
Never fails to find a kiss a** comment
@@dcul8812 🤣🤣🤣 right?! Like they're never going to meet the guy or get anything out of it
@@Sg4809 bro like this particular video is very dark and sad, and this guy is over here throating Mike lmao
@@dcul8812 there's loads of throaters on here 👍🇬🇧😂
hi Mike, I just want you to know that I really appreciate all the hard work you put into your awesome vids on awful subject matter.. cheers!
Thank you, that means a lot!
Ditto from Louisville, KY!!!
Absolutely! So very much appreciated!!
Eh, it's alright
@@ThatChapter At this point, everyone knows you're just the pretty face put out there for the masses. The hard work is done by the indentured servants in your basement. It's obvious.
A friend of mine went out that night with Kenia and they lost her at one of the clubs...my friend was 21 and Kenia was 19 and couldn't get in .... she said Kenia went somewhere else with her friends... This story is so heart breaking as I remember the search and when we didn't know what happened to her and even reposted some of her missing person posts and seeing the story unfold on the news... I also used to work at the hotel Kenia went inside (Hyatt regency at Colorado Convention Center) and know exactly where a CCTV of Kenia was taken (not included in this video) extremely devastating... 💔my heart goes out to her family.
I just love a murderer who can't stop himself from talking to the media. There's something so delicious about watching them think they are so clever, outsmarting everyone, when all the while they are just paving their own paths to prison.
The scariest thing is that, had Travis not sent that creepy text message to her phone, he probably would have never been caught!
If my friend is gone from a club while we are intoxicated, She left her phone and purse? I would raise hell and everyone would know
And with the tears you can see how traumatized he is. This, poor, gutless, waste of skin, I just can't. It bothers me I breath the same air as him. With any luck, the people in his prison will find out what he did, and really give him what he truly deserves.
BTW, great video, as always
When you described how he was just lurking around outside the clubs I got chills 😐
Pure predator 🤢😡
"I wanted to bury her near some trees or some water......."
Wow, what a stand up gent you are. I'm sure she'd totally forgive you, for you know, MURDERING her.
Right..?! "Gosh if someone lured me into a van at my most vulnerable then beat and strangled me to death (sniff sniff) I'd want to be buried next to something beautiful..." My God. Please stop this world. I want to get off. Sad & infuriating.
Calling this waste of space a jackass is an insult to Jackasses!!! SMH
I bet he takes the dishes out of the sink before he pees in it! Great guy!
this guy literally told on himself with that text. what a doorknob.
And also leaving his credit cards near her body.
he's a mess. I actually feel bad for him. clearly damaged
@@crieverytim How can you "feel bad" for such a lying psychopath, who murdered people...??? It's not like somebody forced him to do those things.....
@@oliveryt7168 doesn't need to have been forced. empathy without exception isn't for everyone 🤷♂️
@@crieverytim it’s better to feel bad for the victims... imo. Sociopaths have no conscience. They don’t care about other humans.
"When nightclubs are new, Booze is exciting, and You don't avoid these places like the plague" - had me on the floor.
It is so wholesome to see such a positive, thankful, and appreciative comment section.
It's unbelievable how people like him walk this earth.
He walks pretty normal as far as I saw it.
Again, those crazy eyes. And the 1000 yard stare.
They are even in governments
@@sarahalbers5555 you can tell absolutely nothing from his eyes.
I'm afraid to let my girlfriend take a walk in the neighborhood I live in and the broad daylight even though this is a very low crime area. Sucks, but I don't like her walking alone
Professional forensic scientist, in court: "We examined the van meticulously and found that it was *bleached up the wazoo* ."
😂
💀💀💀
It's the technical term, trust me, I studied forensic science in college
👀
The doctor standing beside Lydia Tillman as she hugs the nurse looks so proud that his patient made it alive. Doctors and Nurses are Real True Heroes! Bravo!
And...Bravo Lydia for staying alive!
Hey you! My name is Kat and in this old comment I just want to say thank you, Mike. You always put your best foot forward in doing these videos. You’ve done great work, as always. Your videos give me a much needed distraction from my every day life. Love ya! See ya soon.
The interviewer asks, "Did you murder her?" and he said "I did not." while nodding his head. He's subconsciously admitting to it.
This is true learn of this lie detection technique from a specialist who was studying the R. Kelly interview. Now when I watch crime shows almost every killer when answering did they do it..nods or moves their head in way similar to a yes nod.
Exactly!
Yep! It’s a perfect example of phycology
That's harder to distinguish because sometimes people nod to affirm their answer. It depends on their baseline, because there are people who say no, mean no, and nod to say "yes, the answer is no", and there are people who don't. That said, another possible red flag is the lack of contraction. Again, it depends on their baseline, but it's common to say "did not" instead of "didn't" if you're lying because you think it sounds more sincere.
Also, during the interigation he created a contradiction of his words by shaking his head from side to side.
“I swear, I was just nicely driving a drunk female in my lovely murder van! Why would you suspect me?! :)”
On some sick and twisted level, he wanted the credit. That's why he deliberately left clues behind.
@@AutomaticDuck300 uh honestly, the whole “I left my card behind so I’d get caught” like nah bitch, you left a calling card to stake your claim
I don’t know if it was just me but this video was top quality, the music editing feels totally different. I’ve never missed an episode. Great job, Mike!
Ladies, please don’t lose sight of each other when you’re going out and PLEASE don’t get into a car of someone you don’t know, no matter how nice or normal they seem.
Some of my best adventures have come from meeting new people and going to after parties. People shouldnt just stop doing that because something like this sometimes happens. Id say if youre a female, be cautious and take a friend with you. If the guy is nice and chill and normal, he shouldnt have a problem with bringing the girls friends too. Be suspect if he seems hesitant to take anyone but the female.
Excellent advice
Unless you're living in a civilized country, of course.
So Uber’s and Lyfts are out of the question 😉
@@StainsStainsStains
Still dangerous
Wow! I can't believe Lydia survived! What an incredible human! 👏 Thanks, Mike! I've never heard of this freak.
Detective; "So why did you bury her near a tree?" Travis; "Because that's where I want to be buried". Detective; Ok, how does One this afternoon work for ya?"
Hahahaha yes😂
Great idea. Also, I'd prefer he goes into the coffin alive.
Detective - “Oh don’t worry, we can arrange that buddy 😉 “!
luv it !!!
@@msstarlight4770 Right?
The worst part about this is how much I have to admit that I put myself is SO many bad situations and how lucky I’ve been😐 Unfortunately we live in a society of predators who are willing to take advantage regardless of how vulnerable.
I can relate .. by the grace of God
OMG this guy is absolutely terrifying, every woman's worst nightmare. We shouldn't have to plan safe ways home after a night out but guys like this exist - everywhere. Please check your drinks and have someone safe who can take you home.
Some real low lifes out there, I'm glad this scum bag got caught
I'm a dude and I plan safe ways home too, better safe than sorry.
@Alex F I always relied on my height and being built like a brick shithouse if and when I needed to walk around at night. Alert, walking with purpose, not giving anyone a reason to start something. It's not enough, unfortunately. A few close encounters showed me that some people are just mental and are looking for trouble. At least it got me learning self defense and fighting, but I don't want to walk around at night alone if I can help it. Sometimes a night walk is necessary because of my schedule but I stick to well lit and friendly neighborhoods and never go somewhere I don't know well.
@@RMello26 You plan ways home to avoid being raped and murdered?
@@megg.4108 Yep like I said better safe than sorry. I used to feel invincible when I was a teen lol but I realize now that there are some really fucked up people out there. Why risk it?
And just like that Tuesday just got a whole lot better!!!!
Word!
@@clementine2001 arent you on your smart phone right now
You mean Chewsday as good ol Mike would say.
IKR⁉️⁉️⁉️⁉️⁉️
I feel that!!
It’s amazing how even monsters want to think that they have a heart… him thinking that burying her next to “something nice” is the right thing to do… 😕
Right, then straight after burying her, he left a woman half alive to burn alive in her house after raping and beating her unrecognizable.
he full of ish..he just buried her where he thought no one would find her.
It’s truly frightening how many people are this evil, terrible, just terrible
I literally broke down when Mike said Lydia made a full recovery. I worked in nursing for years so that hit me right in the feels.
So you know just how much she went through. I bet she had some great nurses to help her heal.
He was literally shaking his head “Yes” while verbally saying “No” when the lady asked if he murdered her during the interview. Wow
That’s not the wow moment in that interview come on now.. everything else was significantly more shocking lol
@@gremlinjerky8462 I thought that was a pretty wow moment, confirming psychology. Amazing how, even if someone is lying, they tell you the truth if you know those tells.
Yes yes he did!!, only you “nod” your head yes and you “shake” your head no 😉
@@Hollylivengood Yeah, it's like his subconscious and body is yelling into the camera, "YES! I killed her!!!!"
@@gremlinjerky8462 You can't tell these people anything. They watch a body language video on youtube and suddenly they're experts.
"What would I do in Mexico?"
"Get a tan."
Love that humorous detective!
That made me laugh too. 😂
I appreciate the fact that Mike does not mince words, and will call out a POS if he sees one.
“I asked if she wanted a ride in my stereotypical r@pe van.… *SHE SAID YES!!* …”
Mikes sarcasm is unmatched.
I remember this case. It was so sad. I have always taught my girls when you go out together, you go home together PERIOD! Never deviate from that and NEVER accept a drink from someone you don't know! Her friends even if they were not close should have known something was wrong that NIGHT!! What teenager leaves their purse AND cell phone?? None that I know of...
Great points, I hope others take your advice.
Yeah I teach my kids not to drink or go to degenerate hang outs. They also learn materials arts and know how to shoot.
WHY DO WE HAVE TO BE LIKE THIS IN 2021?!?! FFS!!! WE’RE FKING HUMANS!!! TREAT US AS SUCH!!!!
@@sammib5403 It's sad isn't it?? What is worse, well equally worse is now we have government officials telling us what we can and cannot do to our bodies...I feel like we are time traveling straight back to the dark ages. What's next real life handmaid's Tales??
@@hrdkorebp My 19 yo can shoot very well too!! My husband will teach the 6 year old how to shoot when it's time. I honestly know my 19 yo is going to drink I just ask her to be safe. Make sure they always pick a DD and don't take drinks from strangers. I just want them all to have fun but be safe while doing it. 🙏🏾
From your face to accent... then ending a video with "I love ya"
You are just the nicest guy ever talking about the most tragic things.
I have no doubt in my mind that the impact on the viewers here has saved at least one person's life as we tend to be more on guard after learning about how others met their end.
Just wanted to say on behalf of my daughter and wife (and my ass) thank you Mike.
Keep at it brother.
I really wish friends would stick together, and never ever leave their drinks alone. It's a recipe for disaster.
The thing is they weren't her friends clearly...
its incredible lydia survived and looks so well, im glad she was able to do that and move on. i hope kenias family is able to rest
Thanks for ruining it
😂😂😂 right ? I guess it’s kinda dumb of me to start reading the comments during the first few minutes into the video tho.
@@NinaBlond007 next time dont come to the comments 7 hours late
@@stimihendrix3404 The comments are for talking about the video and people choose to read the comments on their own. It’s not really polite to get upset at people for talking about the video in their comment after they have watched it and wishing the people who were affected good will and celebrating their recoveries.
Definitely wouldn’t say looking WELL but yea. Incredible she is alive and recovering. Also not your fault that this became top comment but it totally spoils the episode for everyone watching. It’s impossible not to see the first comment, it’s right under the video. Don’t spoil shit in the comments it’s rude
His interview at 12:10 gave me chills. “Did you murder her?” tries to strongly shake his head no but his body couldn’t lie. It also gave me creepy vibes like he was holding back a huge smirk the hold time 🤢🤢🤢
Definately
@Lloyd Nestle Why what?
12:27 Journalist: "Did you murder her?"
Travis: Nodding YES quickly while saying "I did not", turning into nodding no, while answering "no". Body language speaks volumes.
When someone asked you if you murdered someone, do you really say "I did not". First two words say "I did".
@@chezceleste The channel 'The Behaviour Panel' calls it a non-contracted denial, always a red flag. You're right - an innocent person would say "I didn't".
tripledoubleone Or just "No."
@@truecrimeboozer sounds like bunko to me. People use non-contracted statements like "did not" and "cannot" for added emphasis all the time. Yeah I know, we see the guilty guy do it here, but how many innocent people do we not see doing it? Same goes for the body language and and use of the past tense that all the super sleuths on here go on about.
There's safety in numbers .
Don't be the singled out one because you're alone , no one to help you in any way , no one to be a witness , etc.
One thing my father used to tell my sisters and me , whenever we asked him for permission to go dancing , he would tell us always wait to be the last ones to order your drink , then ask to have the same drink as the guy that wants to buy you a drink,
When you get the drink , switch it for the guys' and if he refuses to get your drink , that means he paid the waiter to have your drink laced .
We did it several times , and sometimes the guy left the drink and walked away .
That is damn good advice and extremely terrifying how many guys straight up walked away. Makes me truly fear for my own daughter
"If you don't watch Mike on Friday, you'll have 2 episodes on Tuesday."
Great idea, I might try that sometime.
Yup👍
No I can't wait that long
@@pennypeace-cornelius191 lol me either, I will happily just rewatch it again on Friday and still have two videos :)
Yea right I couldn’t wait to watch the Friday episode lol
i havent watched since may. i have a marathon ahead of me.
"He was just an all-around giant piece of shit!" Said in perfect, winning prize, game show voice. LOL lost my coffee on that one!
The annunciation of it! Really savored it
"...and his girlfriend confirmed his story of that night."
*Throws up her photo.*
Me: Something about that mugshot tells me she may not have been entirely honest...
Wouldn't take that girl on a date. Not for all the money in the world. That stare gives me the chills.
These are stories of terror, however at certain points, due to your storytelling, I end up cracking up. It helps. Thanks