Dear Mike...I want to say thank you to you. I'm a 54 year old woman with 2 terminal diseases. I spend my life bedridden or stuck on a dialysis machine, and it gets so, so lonely. Due to being bedridden, I don't have any friends to talk to, and only an adult son for family. Most of the time I am very, very sick or in a great deal of pain-I try to smile through it all, but it gets really hard sometimes. Then one day, by sheer accident, I found your channel. I cannot tell you how much you've brightened my life! Yes, the stories are sad and sometimes even truly horrible (murder just is, ya know?), but that's not what I'm talking about. I'm talking about your personality. You are so awesome! You make me laugh, smile, and help me to forget the pain, even if only for a little while. You give me something to look forward to-and that's a precious thing, indeed. Thank you, Mike, thank you so very much. Don't ever doubt the impact you have on people. You're a true blessing to me, and I thank you dearly. God bless you, kiddo!
If I lived near you, I would love to visit you when you were up to it. So glad got found Mike and his awesome videos. I'm so sorry for your pain and I pray you get relief. Many Blessings!
MrAsap2000as, adults who face tragedy are not always fine. They can go into deep depression, become alcoholics or drug addicts. I believe it was on this channel that featured a story of a married woman who didn't take her her grandfather's death very well. She ended up murdering her teenage daughters
Rosa Ruiz, it wasn't until I read your comment that I realized that I had heard of this tragic case before. I thought it was so horrible for the sons to have their mother murdered and then their father years later.
@MrAsap2000as Yeah, sure, both your parents getting murdered happens all the time, and besides, the second one was when they were adults, nothing to worry about. wtf is wrong with you?
@@baller128k doesn't matter what age you are losing your parents is a fucking tragedy, tf is wrong with you... Prolly have both of your parents and obviously have not experienced any deaths of loved ones smh
The stabbing in the vital organs part infuriates me. He knew the poor man was dead already. All he did by stabbing those organs was render them unviable for transplantation into someone who needed them.
Smiles in photos don't say anything about whether someone is a nice person. Imo. Not saying he wasn't nice but tbh I don't know whether he was nice or not. He certainly didn't deserve to be murdered.
Wife leaves you for husband that murderers her, meets cheerleader in a dance class who’s psycho ex has you murdered. After watching this, I’ve realised lifetime movies aren’t that wild...
You can really tell that Dr. Joseph Sonnier was a really good person. Because the emotion in his gardener's voice was actual pain and anguish that someone she knew as her boss was dead, because I'm betting he was that kind of nice and kind where it just radiates from you.
Thinking the same thing. I mean I'd be upset if my boss got killed, I like him and he takes good care of us. But this lady was barely holding it together. That's love and respect right there. Just tragic that someone just decides one day to just take a life cause whatever fucked up reason they use to justify it. The whole family is just torn up over this. A good man was taken from this earth and no amount of punishment will change that.
Honestly I was about to comment this even though I already posted a comment and then I was like let me not be crazy obsessive, I can trust in the UA-cam community to catch it WE WANT THE TREE MIKE 😂👌🏻
Yes! I like how he jokes sometimes but also doesn’t make light of a very serious thing after all these are true stories and and people will have been affected. He is a very good story teller
Some men struggle with the ending of a relationship convincing themselves they love when what is really the case is their fragile ego can not accept rejection . Real love is selfless
@@jumpinjohnnyruss I agree rejection is not a gender based .However men are more likely to take the ultimate act as in if you don’t want me then you won’t have anyone scenario whereas women tend to destroy objects/things that mean the most to their ex . Just my opinion.
@@benburns1180 ever heard of a real shithole like Somalia? They don’t even make videos on this shit over there because it’s a daily occurrence. The reason these are so interesting is because it’s so uncommon and unusual here. But go ahead, shit on the best country on earth because of whatever agenda you want to push, lmao.
"The gun discharges couple more times...." No dude, the gun didn't...discharge... You freaking shot him a couple more times! Jesus man the gun didn't do it you did!
I really thought that plastic surgeon commercial was a UA-cam ad. I got mad when I saw I couldn't skip it after 5 seconds but laughed when realized it was part of the story
Then after that there was some UA-cam ad with a young attractive woman (I forget what it was for), and I thought it was part of this story, another ad for the plastic surgeon, but it was a real UA-cam ad.
I noticed that too. He didn't shoot the guy, the gun just discharged. Makes it sound like a mistake that he fired the gun multiple times. He was a shit hitman but he's a decent manipulator
This is actually super common when people describe shooting someone. The gun went off. The gun fired. Not I pulled the trigger and shot them. It’s psychologically separating you from an act you know is wrong. Still dumb. Own it if you’re gonna confess.
Not gonna lie, had a real rough yesterday and today. Then i remembered today is Tuesday and Mike would be cranking out a new video.......so I’m good now. Everything’s alllllllllll good man.
Mike has taught me that people make no sense. So, you blame your ex gf for ruining your marrage/life and thus you allegedly do something to ruin it even more with life in jail with Mrs Palmer and her five daughters?!?!??? The logic of the people in Mike's stories make me facepalm so hard I think it'll crack my skull. FFS just move on people! Nothing is worth risking life in jail, or any jail time for that matter, and nothing is worth killing someone over. Sheesh. The stars of Mike's stories so often have an ego or chip on their shoulder that's so out of proportion it's incredible. Thanks for your great work Mike! Love ya!
Hey Mike I just have to second the notion at how comfortable and at ease you've gotten. And with the jokes too! You're very funny and seem like a really good dude. My wife n I literally watch every upload and love it. Keep up the amazing work brother and thank you.
Ikr, so glad that the killers daughter helped solve it, the attempt to help two other kids solve the murder of there dad by her own dad.. Good on her for that, she's a saint🙏
@@notoverlyacerbic9574 Are you trying to be mean? I'm sending extra love and light your way...maybe Google Reiki or just find comfort in knowing...it may just be thoughts of well wishes for people and how is that ever bad?
Mike is the most lovable lad. That Chapter my favorite, he tells these peoples stories so well and keeps a not so funny topic entertaining while respecting the victims and their families.
Yeah and when he said he RAN to try to intercept him in case he was getting a weapon. I was picturing him out of breath from crawling in the window and his awkward “running”.
"And Rochell thought he might propose, but instead he bought her a Tea Of The Month Club subscription, what every girl wants." --Another perfectly good mouthful of coffee, onto my perfectly clean shirt. Thanks a shitton MIKE!
You done’ pulled some funnies in this one Mike. It’s rather conflicting learning about something morbidly interesting but at the same time having a good old chuckle.. a fine art.
Peter Jongsma - oh dear... Schadenfreude..”pleasure derived by someone from another person's misfortune.” I think in our case it’s more like shizenfunny.
@@LittleBlueBirdsears Didn't you take pleasure in my rotten German? I think you did. And you can create your own words. Just like you did. It's called Neologising. Schadenfreund isn't a spelling mistake it's a Neologism. My own.
It's a terrible shame. This Dixon dr. had someone killed because he wanted them to break up. In the end, his jealousy got a good man killed...a good father taken from his sons...a good man taken from his g/f...another man (a real dummy) put in prison for life...and himself in prison for life.
I appreciate how mike every video says "please take care of your selves"...what a good hearted lad (coming from someone in the USA n we dont normally say lad)
Lad is used mostly in east of the country *in Ireland... you'd say how are ya lad all the way from about louth to Carlow, whilst further south they would say *how are ya boy.....go further west...how are ya man or how are ya buck...or even how are ya sham used in Galway and Mayo... In the north it can vary from boy to lad.
@@K42023 lol, sorry, but why would you guess sth like that? 😂😂 I think the idea behind it is more along the lines of, once this person is out of the way, i can go console her and help her and we will get right back to dating. Either that, or sometimes it's simple vengeance. 🤷🏽♀️
I feel terrible for the 2 sons who lost BOTH of their parents to murder!!! What the hell are the odds of that??? I mean, if they’re not murdered at the same time. That’s CRAZY and really heartbreaking too!
2 minutes after upload, 83 comments already, and here I am just thinking how happy I was to get the alert and have the time to watch it immediately. Mike, you’re definitely weirdly a part of my life... in a good way 😁 Well done kind sir !
One time I think it was last year, here in germany there was a murder where a dude got stabbed 4 or 5 times in the back. police said it was suicide .. thing is the guy was either right wing and a left wing group killed him or he was left and a right wing group killed him. there were death threats, soo normally the murder investigation rate is over 90% here sry for bad grammar
Simply a formality. It’s the language used to express that it wasn’t a death of seemingly natural causes. They cannot write something “definitely a homicide” on paperwork. It’s just that the death is either suspicious or not.
every time i see a case like this where both the parents are murdered and their kids are left is just tragic and couldnt imagine what they feel like, i just hope they grow alright
@@DD-d6d3 damn i didnt know (or didnt pick up on that if it was mentioned?) but im glad they were at least adults then! but its still a tragic thing and a weird feeling knowing both of your parents were murdered
"Cus we apparently live in the year 1855" - LMFAO!!!! EXACTLY MY THOUGHTS. As soon as they mentioned that payment was in cigars and silver bars, I had immediate visuals of pioneers, cowboys and saloons and thought - WTF?!!
I didn’t play the video a second time but I recall the suspect Dr. offering he hadn’t seen her in months before the police even told him who was killed. ?
@@steverogers2603 no the whole interview is more than just that interaction. He was almost immediately made aware of the case and what really happened. It’s just been edited.
It is a big warning sign that a married doctor starts sleeping with his patient. In Australia a doctor dating their patient can result in deregistration medically, it is not just unethical.
@@caryulmer5578 It's actually legal in many states. Frowned upon, but still legal. What, did you actually think the US _cares_ about people and makes legislation to protect them against abuses of power like this? PFFFFFFFT
I cured my crack addiction, just not my meth and heroin addiction. It’s alright though, my best friend, the purple dragon in the back yard, says he’d have to go away if it cured everything.
@@Overlord99762 "here I was, your honor, minding my own business asleep in his flower beds waiting to kill him when he RAN and possibly got a weapon after I had fired wildly upon him, knocked open his window, and followed him into the house."
@@librarianontheloose C'mon now, he was afraid for his life after emptying his gun into an innocent man. And then, because he was still terrorized by the victim running away from the emptied gun, stabbing Dr. Sonnier in his "vital organs" just to make sure he wasn't a threat to I-Do-Murders-For-Hire. Fukker. Eternal damnation and hellfire is too good for this worm.
What's wrong with NASA, are you a flat earther who thinks NASA was created to lie. My biggest question I have is what would the agenda be for them to make us think the earth was round if it's actually flat and I've never heard a flat earther give a real, genuine reasonable answer for that, they always deflect that question smh
@@caitplanchette Jim-Bob...Joe-Bob...yes, they're actual names...Lol! I actually used to know a guy named Jim Bob...My parents neighbor's son...in Graham, Tx. About 2 hrs. from Abilene. Cowboy Country. LoL. Mostly it's in West Texas. I live in North Texas.
@@Mason-dq7cf Like, um, millions and millions of people. Mike wouldn't ruin a TV show. it would be awesome. Just like his channel on UA-cam. Only on UA-cam will someone argue against a nice compliment like the one I paid Mike. You guys are dumb.
@@amberdamber7 Only on YT? Have you been on the internet for very long? Besides, suppose it is to be expected, because this is sort of a rival platform, you know...
I was way too surprised about the new gf not being the killer. She actually genuinely seemed to love him and probably feels a lot of guilt over what has happened
Tree hundred and turdy tree, I need this number in a video. In one he is on about people with illnesses, disabilities and even speech impediment and he says if they only heard me say turdy tree. I nearly died but cant remember which vid it was
My heart absolutely breaks for the 2 sons, their mother murdered by her new husband then their father murdered by his new partner's jealous ex. It would be completely understandable if those 2 boys (well they are actually men now) have massive trust issues in their own relationships with partners, I sincerely hope not, I hope they both find the most loving and caring partners and live the rest of their lives in complete happiness and that both of these tragic incidents they have been forced to live through don't taint or destroy their futures. Such a sad waste of life.
Got too love how that punk frames it like "I had to run around the corner incase he had a weapon " like he was in a precarious situation during the commission of a cold blooded murder 🤯
"That number.. I'm not sayin it" Mike you already said "He was a father of tree" (and I definitely pictured him pushing a lil baby sapling on the swings at a park)
oh he woke up... to the intended target (the victim) knocking on his own window out at the man sleeping. Only to be met with gunfire. Just insane, all of it. They’re both obviously guilty.
I proudly tell people "I subscribed to That chapter when it only had 20 00 subscribers" in the same way as my dad proudly tell people that he "Saw The Beatles live before they where famous".
It's hard to believe because you possess basic human emotions like empathy, sympathy, guilt and fear. A lot of people capable of taking life, especially in cold-blood, are lacking most if not all of these virtues. At best, they are under-developed. That's why children sometimes will do really fucked up things with no understanding.
I totally agree, its unbelievable...maybe the gun culture in the US has something to do with it, cheapens life....thankfully we don't have that here in Ireland, that's not to say we don't have murders but they don't seem to be as prolific, thankfully.
The plan of sending him a NAMBLA subscription & then murder haha, it's like he watched that VHS how to get revenge they covered on RLM Which had similar stuff like ruining someone's social security or getting them divorced
Maybe he was telling the truth and he wasn't actually there to murder him? I mean, it is possible that he was being asked to take photos of Sonnier but got bored and fell asleep, then was startled by being woken up and, in a half-dream state of fuzzy thinking, he thought he was in danger and shot his pistol... then, once you've shot once, you think the only course of action now is to continue due to adrenaline building up in the system and it becoming a fight/flight scenario.
Can you imagine shooting & stabbing someone for a "friend" who gives you a bunch of nothing for doing it ......😳 I can't even get a friend to join me for a coffee 🙈
This one actually made me really sad. He was just a good guy, didn’t do anything to anyone. The guy who was gonna kill him fell asleep, and instead of calling the police he wakes him up and waves at him. If only he would’ve called the police or ran away. He didn’t deserve any of what he got :(
Hitman is not a profession in the West thankfully, you can't search for one on the Internet. So in all these cases that we see on youtube most of the times it's an idiot they know and persuade to kill, and even then most run to the cops and become a witness against the one that asked them to kill. It's remarkable that this piece of shit went through with it, to me it seems he was faithful to this doctor the wrong way, like he had some honor or so, morals, but no morals for the victim.
@Kiwihouse2005 B. Maybe, maybe not, I do believe there's a part of the Internet we normal users never come but to state that you can find a professional hit man there easily... Based on facts I think it's bs. Watched over a 100 of these videos, like most, and never seen a video where they hired a hitman on 'the dark web. Only cases where the hitman was trouble, ratted, didn't dare to do it etc.' Why not go to the yellow pages of the darkweb if it's that easy? Because it's not true.
@Kiwihouse2005 B. That's true, you can't know what you don't know but that's why I look at what these ppl did that actually needed a hitman, they don't go to the darkweb. But maybe what you're saying is true for professional drug dealers, ppl like that, I don't know, maybe you're right.
I can't remember which border it was but as I was coming into Texas I saw a sign that said "Welcome to Texas. Stubbornly resisting change since 1983". XD We know what people think of us down here and we just own it. Haha
So this “Doctor” was in relationship with his patient (while married), then after after she broke up with him, he dated a medical student. That’s WAY beyond unprofessional.
Let me just say how tragic for Dr. Sonnier’s sons. To have one parent murdered is rare but to have both parents murdered in separate tragedies is just horrific. My heart goes out to them.
I feel for Dave Shepard. As I gun owner, I often shoot people several times accidentally
Wait-don’t forget your knife malfunction.
Lol....watch out, youtubers don’t understand humor
😂😂😂
@Nope TF*out lol
Especially the stabbing after someone is confirmed to be dead is common. Probably happens to everyone at least once in their lives.
Dear Mike...I want to say thank you to you.
I'm a 54 year old woman with 2 terminal diseases. I spend my life bedridden or stuck on a dialysis machine, and it gets so, so lonely.
Due to being bedridden, I don't have any friends to talk to, and only an adult son for family.
Most of the time I am very, very sick or in a great deal of pain-I try to smile through it all, but it gets really hard sometimes.
Then one day, by sheer accident, I found your channel.
I cannot tell you how much you've brightened my life! Yes, the stories are sad and sometimes even truly horrible (murder just is, ya know?), but that's not what I'm talking about.
I'm talking about your personality.
You are so awesome! You make me laugh, smile, and help me to forget the pain, even if only for a little while.
You give me something to look forward to-and that's a precious thing, indeed.
Thank you, Mike, thank you so very much.
Don't ever doubt the impact you have on people.
You're a true blessing to me, and I thank you dearly.
God bless you, kiddo!
Lovely words. Hope you get some relief from the pain and things improve for you.
Good to know good people like you are a fan of Mike! Sending you much positivity and light! x
I’m not crying, I swear. I’m glad you’re finding some relief from your pain. And I hope a miracle finds it way to you.
Get well, stay wonderful. The sun shines on you.
If I lived near you, I would love to visit you when you were up to it. So glad got found Mike and his awesome videos. I'm so sorry for your pain and I pray you get relief. Many Blessings!
The way people ruin their lives blows my mind every time
You are ravishing
Yes! How do some people come up with such strange ideas like murder? What goes on in their mind? 🤔
And so many other lives in the process!
Truly incomprehensible!!!🥺....
@@erikwhitebeard79 creeps like you are the ones to watch on here.. ready to ruin his life for a profile pic.
I feel so bad for his two sons. They lost both parents so violently and unfairly.
Right! Both parents murdered, IN SEPARATE OCCASIONS! The chances of that happening are off the charts.
I kept thinking about that. Both their parents killed over some romantic nonsense - the mom by her new husband and their dad by his gf’s obsessive ex.
It is almost unbelievable. And shot the dog too. I'm staying out of Texas.
How sad is that? What are the odds ? Of that
The poor Sonnier boys had both of their parents murdered I can’t imagine how hard that must’ve been, my heart goes out to them.
MrAsap2000as, adults who face tragedy are not always fine. They can go into deep depression, become alcoholics or drug addicts.
I believe it was on this channel that featured a story of a married woman who didn't take her her grandfather's death very well. She ended up murdering her teenage daughters
Rosa Ruiz, it wasn't until I read your comment that I realized that I had heard of this tragic case before. I thought it was so horrible for the sons to have their mother murdered and then their father years later.
@MrAsap2000as Yeah, sure, both your parents getting murdered happens all the time, and besides, the second one was when they were adults, nothing to worry about. wtf is wrong with you?
Heartbreaking 💔
MILDRED PIERCE oh, yes I saw that one “ mommy dearest”. That was so horrible! 😭😭😭
Imagine losing both of your parents to separate murders... jfc
Yeah, that's unimaginable to most folks.
What are the odds??
IT'S ALWAYS MY 1 & ONLY WISH BEFORE I BLOW OUT MY BIRTHDAY CANDLES.
So sad right? Crazy coincidence!
If I wouldn’t have watched another world I would’ve thought that that’s the most fucked up thing that could happen to someone
When the judge is named Jim Bob you know they’re juicing up the electric chair.
Lol yep
😆hes the electric chair whisperer
Dayem you Amuricans sure are special!
@@daniplaysoneasy-9454 👍👌
Hahahahaha
I legitimately checked to see how many seconds were left on the ad for Dr. Dixon until I realized it was part of the video.
Same lmao 😂
Glad Im not the only one 😂😂
Same! I thought my UA-cam was broken because I didn’t see the seconds remaining or skip tab. 😂
😂
Oh god 🤣🤣🤣
Feel so bad for Doctor Joseph kids imagine losing both your parents to murder on two different and completely unrelated events
wicked trippy
There grown men lmao wtf
@@baller128k If you can't understand wtf, I don't want to know you.
Texas be like...
@@baller128k doesn't matter what age you are losing your parents is a fucking tragedy, tf is wrong with you... Prolly have both of your parents and obviously have not experienced any deaths of loved ones smh
You know it's set in Texas when the judge's name is "Jim-Bob."
HAD to check comments to make sure someone had addressed this ....
Tara Griffin I CAME TO THE COMMENTS TO SAY THIS LMAOOOO
Does that mean that the Waltons were Texans? who knew, i thought the Waltons were Virginians..... shocked 😲 and speechless 😳
Or Nebraska
No, he’s an American. Irishmen come from Ireland.
Can't Imagine their children's state of mind. Both parents murdered.
I came to comment that. What are the odds? Just wow
No Name
Damn, I didn’t even think about that. 🤯
If mom had been happy with what she had they'd probably have both parents still alive 😟
They weren't children. They were grown men when their father was killed.
Bong Jovi just because they were adults doesn’t suddenly mean they couldn’t be shocked that both their parents were murdered
Richelle: I can’t imagine who would want to do this to him
Also Richelle: I can think of a few people that would want to do this to him
Immediately😂😂
It's probably one of the number of men with money I was working previous to this target.
@@garpikemike1 100% wonder when the last time she had a job?
She also had one of the only genuine reactions of grief I've seen in an interrogation room on this channel!
Maybe it was an emotional time for her.
“Three bars of silver and cigars, cause we, apparently, live in year 1855” 😄😄😄😄😄
Or the apocalypse! 😂
Hahaha!!! Very good!
Shit I’ll take some bars of silver lol just not to murder anyone lol
At least ask for some gold bars. Silver lol.
Bottlecaps, anyone?
It's sickening that he kills the man, even checks his pulse, and then proceeds to stab him multiple times in vital organs. My God.
He gives 110%
Weren’t you paying attention? It was an accident.
@@Gross_Gaming27 had to make up for falling asleep in the garden.
The stabbing in the vital organs part infuriates me. He knew the poor man was dead already. All he did by stabbing those organs was render them unviable for transplantation into someone who needed them.
Yeah I gasped at that!
Such a sad story, Dr Sonnier have a big smile on every picture he's at. He looks like such a nice person
Can't help noticing the guy's smile remind me of a grinning Dwayne The Rock Johnson
he seems like a nice guy but people should stop using other people emotions and feelings
I thought he was the murderer at the start of the show, and I was like “ah shit, he’s gonna kill his new wife”. Then bam! Plot twist.
Smiles in photos don't say anything about whether someone is a nice person. Imo. Not saying he wasn't nice but tbh I don't know whether he was nice or not. He certainly didn't deserve to be murdered.
@ᗩᒪIYᗩᕼ is being a womanizer bad?
I'm actually from Lubbock and this was a pretty sad case. Dr. Sonnier was a good person and very well respected in the community.
Wife leaves you for husband that murderers her, meets cheerleader in a dance class who’s psycho ex has you murdered.
After watching this, I’ve realised lifetime movies aren’t that wild...
As crazy as 2020 has been, I'm surprised that case didn't happen this year.
Right, poor kids....BOTH parents brutally murdered 😥
After watching this I will never move to Texas....
@@ColdHawk Better to NEVER go to a doctor again. Makes ya nervous going in there with the door tightly closed so no one can hear what's going on.
@Spooky totally that's your key point there with friends I think everyone fears being alone...
You can really tell that Dr. Joseph Sonnier was a really good person.
Because the emotion in his gardener's voice was actual pain and anguish that someone she knew as her boss was dead, because I'm betting he was that kind of nice and kind where it just radiates from you.
Exactly...it's always in how other people think of you when you're gone...you can tell she was so sad over that
Thinking the same thing. I mean I'd be upset if my boss got killed, I like him and he takes good care of us. But this lady was barely holding it together. That's love and respect right there. Just tragic that someone just decides one day to just take a life cause whatever fucked up reason they use to justify it. The whole family is just torn up over this. A good man was taken from this earth and no amount of punishment will change that.
I would totally loss it if someone hurt a hair on my bosses head. He is just so innocent and kind.
@@kathleenmuchka2559 if I was a boss I'd love people like you. Isn't sad how good kind people always get absolutely murdered half the time.
I would’ve arrested Dr. Dixon just over his commercial.
LMAO
HAHAHAHA
Your spot on Ms. Rivera !!!!
That's funny right there....
Lol Nice
That poor guy. He seemed like such a genuine dude, clearly loved his family more than anything.
I’m seeing more of Mike than my actual family.
Mike is way more interesting to listen to than my family.😉
Mike is our family now
How true! Haven't seen my parents since October. Covid has me hiding in bed with ThatChapter and all my new friends! Lol
Put your phone down and spend time with your family.
Mike is your family now
"That number" *holds up three fingers* "I'm not sayin it"
Gold hahaha
Yay
🌲
Honestly I was about to comment this even though I already posted a comment and then I was like let me not be crazy obsessive, I can trust in the UA-cam community to catch it
WE WANT THE TREE MIKE 😂👌🏻
Holds up *tree* fingers
Turns out he's not German
Your comedy relief helps in most of these cases. To not totally lose any hope in mankind. Thanks Mike.
Oooh o agree but afyer some serial dudes and chicks you just lose it😅😑😅😑
Boss.
Yes! I like how he jokes sometimes but also doesn’t make light of a very serious thing after all these are true stories and and people will have been affected. He is a very good story teller
Oh so true!!
Hope in humanity is totally lost in watching these videos. Mike's comic relief lessens the blow.
Some men struggle with the ending of a relationship convincing themselves they love when what is really the case is their fragile ego can not accept rejection . Real love is selfless
Do some women not do the same?
@@jumpinjohnnyruss I agree rejection is not a gender based .However men are more likely to take the ultimate act as in if you don’t want me then you won’t have anyone scenario whereas women tend to destroy objects/things that mean the most to their ex . Just my opinion.
@@karenhill5925 But still extremely unlikely. It seems arbitrary to draw your line between the two groups.
Real love you have to clean up with a mop and bucket
The MOST f'd up thing about this story is how both sommier parents were murdered in unrelated incidents. Bad bad bad luck.
It's called living in America.
burnsie b because I’m sure nothing like that happens in, say, Africa? Do you even have a clue of the horrible things that go on over there?
@@benburns1180 ever heard of a real shithole like Somalia? They don’t even make videos on this shit over there because it’s a daily occurrence. The reason these are so interesting is because it’s so uncommon and unusual here. But go ahead, shit on the best country on earth because of whatever agenda you want to push, lmao.
Seriously like wtf😔
@@sailorarwen6101 yeah you guys don’t try to use an actual civilized county like Any one in Europe that’s not eastern, or you’ll combust
"The gun discharges couple more times...." No dude, the gun didn't...discharge... You freaking shot him a couple more times! Jesus man the gun didn't do it you did!
Haha, he's trying the ol people don't kill people, guns do defense
He just hanging on for dear life as the gun dragged him around
@@jerryboics9550 lol
A doctor speaks !! Those terms from medical industry isn't it lol
It's the ol' intransitive verb trick, like when you say to your kid ; "what happened to your jeans?" and they answer; "They got torn!"
I really thought that plastic surgeon commercial was a UA-cam ad. I got mad when I saw I couldn't skip it after 5 seconds but laughed when realized it was part of the story
Yep , it had me fooled aswell 😂
Me too! I wondered why it let me fast forward lol
Then after that there was some UA-cam ad with a young attractive woman (I forget what it was for), and I thought it was part of this story, another ad for the plastic surgeon, but it was a real UA-cam ad.
I thought UA-cam was again changing commercial rules. For the worst.
Lofl, that's hilarious.
“Because we apparently live in year 1855” 🤣 You’re too good at making these videos! Love it! Don’t ever quit!
The gun discharges, I've never heard a more callous, clinical way of describing shooting someone, in my life.
I noticed that too. He didn't shoot the guy, the gun just discharged. Makes it sound like a mistake that he fired the gun multiple times. He was a shit hitman but he's a decent manipulator
Yeah, like it wasn’t his fault at all. What a douche.
This is actually super common when people describe shooting someone. The gun went off. The gun fired. Not I pulled the trigger and shot them. It’s psychologically separating you from an act you know is wrong. Still dumb. Own it if you’re gonna confess.
When the news reporter said “I can’t count”....... I felt that
I like how he said it in the same sentence he was finishing. 16:43
👌🏼🤣
lol
Not gonna lie, had a real rough yesterday and today. Then i remembered today is Tuesday and Mike would be cranking out a new video.......so I’m good now. Everything’s alllllllllll good man.
@Lesley Leith Tuesday is fast becoming my fav day. Mike and Pappamonkey. Cheers from Ottawa :D
Hope your day gets better!! I live his channel!
Hope it starts leaning towards the smoother side of things
Mike has taught me that people make no sense. So, you blame your ex gf for ruining your marrage/life and thus you allegedly do something to ruin it even more with life in jail with Mrs Palmer and her five daughters?!?!??? The logic of the people in Mike's stories make me facepalm so hard I think it'll crack my skull. FFS just move on people! Nothing is worth risking life in jail, or any jail time for that matter, and nothing is worth killing someone over. Sheesh. The stars of Mike's stories so often have an ego or chip on their shoulder that's so out of proportion it's incredible. Thanks for your great work Mike! Love ya!
I’ll take That Chapter over the news.
Any damn day!!!!😌😌😌😌
I feel bad for liking this, only because I was #70...nice
ME TOO!
Deffo !👍
@Beyond The Pale your right 👍
Hey Mike I just have to second the notion at how comfortable and at ease you've gotten. And with the jokes too! You're very funny and seem like a really good dude. My wife n I literally watch every upload and love it. Keep up the amazing work brother and thank you.
My husband and I do the same!!! I just commented on that!!
Omg... stop kissing butt for crying out loud... its embarrassing
@@TheSoonToBePurgedJackMeHoff55 Repent sinner
@@TheSoonToBePurgedJackMeHoff55 omg... stop kissing butt for crying out loud.... it’s embarrassing
Hasn't he just. Different Mike here but absolutely love the channel and wish him every success in the world. Watch every video.
Those poor kids having both their parents murdered at totally different times.
Must cause major trust issues
Heartbreaking
Ikr, so glad that the killers daughter helped solve it, the attempt to help two other kids solve the murder of there dad by her own dad.. Good on her for that, she's a saint🙏
@Teena Courtney what is the process for the sending of one's energy? What does that look like?
@@notoverlyacerbic9574 Are you trying to be mean? I'm sending extra love and light your way...maybe Google Reiki or just find comfort in knowing...it may just be thoughts of well wishes for people and how is that ever bad?
OMG that silver bars bit had me LMAO "Because all modern ventures take immediate inspiration from Red Dead Redemption"
"apparently we live in the year 1855" lol
Mike is the most lovable lad. That Chapter my favorite, he tells these peoples stories so well and keeps a not so funny topic entertaining while respecting the victims and their families.
"I fell asleep while waiting to do a murder" is the daddest of dad excuses ever.
"...So I push in the window, and crawl in..."
Given the size of the guy, that is a feat worth celebrating 👍🏻🍾🎉
Gaël Hervé hiking&birding I’m sure it looked comical, he doesn’t seem too graceful, 😂🤣🤣
especially as he could have just walked over the window on the ground!!!! It wasn't meant to be an IQ test...!
Bet he has to eat a lorry load of food every day to maintain his size.
Yeah and when he said he RAN to try to intercept him in case he was getting a weapon. I was picturing him out of breath from crawling in the window and his awkward “running”.
Ana R 😂😂😂
"And Rochell thought he might propose, but instead he bought her a Tea Of The Month Club subscription, what every girl wants." --Another perfectly good mouthful of coffee, onto my perfectly clean shirt. Thanks a shitton MIKE!
No one believes you actually spit your coffee out
@@MashaRistova lol why is it always coffee??
You done’ pulled some funnies in this one Mike. It’s rather conflicting learning about something morbidly interesting but at the same time having a good old chuckle.. a fine art.
well said!
Right ? Exactly what I’ve said myself several times .
Is it bad that we chuckle or outright laugh while watching horrible stories?
I wonder 😬😊
@@LuisaD93
I think it's called Schadenfreund.
Peter Jongsma - oh dear... Schadenfreude..”pleasure derived by someone from another person's misfortune.”
I think in our case it’s more like shizenfunny.
@@LittleBlueBirdsears
Didn't you take pleasure in my rotten German?
I think you did.
And you can create your own words.
Just like you did.
It's called Neologising.
Schadenfreund isn't a spelling mistake it's a Neologism.
My own.
I was living in Lubbock when this murder took place. Dr. Sonnier was a very respected doctor and his murder shook the city.
Shivers
It's a terrible shame. This Dixon dr. had someone killed because he wanted them to break up. In the end, his jealousy got a good man killed...a good father taken from his sons...a good man taken from his
g/f...another man (a real dummy) put in prison for life...and himself in prison for life.
Mike's videos are the only things getting me through this circus of a year! Xx
I appreciate how mike every video says "please take care of your selves"...what a good hearted lad (coming from someone in the USA n we dont normally say lad)
Lad is used mostly in east of the country *in Ireland... you'd say how are ya lad all the way from about louth to Carlow, whilst further south they would say *how are ya boy.....go further west...how are ya man or how are ya buck...or even how are ya sham used in Galway and Mayo... In the north it can vary from boy to lad.
When people still think killing someone's spouse will win them over...
It’s wild
Women think it’s romantic I guess?
What? Murdering a loved one is romantic? You are out of your mind
@@K42023 lol, sorry, but why would you guess sth like that? 😂😂 I think the idea behind it is more along the lines of, once this person is out of the way, i can go console her and help her and we will get right back to dating. Either that, or sometimes it's simple vengeance. 🤷🏽♀️
@@ssa3913 jeez Capt'n Obvious. I'm guessing you don't quite understand sarcasm do ya? 🤦🏽♂️🤦🏽♂️
Those poor kids lost both parents in the worst way..
They were men not kids. Still sad tho
@@Cat_inatophat 'kids' doesn't necessarily mean children, but offspring
@@Cat_inatophat yea, but you'll always be your parents babies
The woman who made the 911 call broke my heart.
Obviously was nice to her. You could hear her pain over it. 😥
I feel terrible for the 2 sons who lost BOTH of their parents to murder!!! What the hell are the odds of that??? I mean, if they’re not murdered at the same time. That’s CRAZY and really heartbreaking too!
2 minutes after upload, 83 comments already, and here I am just thinking how happy I was to get the alert and have the time to watch it immediately.
Mike, you’re definitely weirdly a part of my life... in a good way 😁
Well done kind sir !
Joanna Martin thx, I’m
On his Patreon as well 😁
Milk: “Dr Sonnier was shot at and stabbed”
Police: “We consider this death suspicious” ........ ya think?
One time I think it was last year, here in germany there was a murder where a dude got stabbed 4 or 5 times in the back. police said it was suicide .. thing is the guy was either right wing and a left wing group killed him or he was left and a right wing group killed him. there were death threats, soo
normally the murder investigation rate is over 90% here
sry for bad grammar
lol i just found an article where french police found a man stabbed 150 times and they say suicide is possible xd
Simply a formality. It’s the language used to express that it wasn’t a death of seemingly natural causes. They cannot write something “definitely a homicide” on paperwork. It’s just that the death is either suspicious or not.
I was thinking the same thing... Tf, who stabs themself...especially more then 2 times
Milk?
every time i see a case like this where both the parents are murdered and their kids are left is just tragic and couldnt imagine what they feel like, i just hope they grow alright
They were adults when dad was killed.
I know, it’s awful. HoPefully they had some close family members willing to adopt them bc CPS is not a place for children
@@DD-d6d3 The loss of a person who loves you hurts, it doesn't matter your age.
@Street Rider She was murdered by her new husband in a murder-suicide, or did you not watch the beginning of this video?
@@DD-d6d3 damn i didnt know (or didnt pick up on that if it was mentioned?) but im glad they were at least adults then! but its still a tragic thing and a weird feeling knowing both of your parents were murdered
19:15 "Judge Jim Bob Darnell" ....yeah, I definitely believe that was in Texas
"This many times. Not gonna say it" I was dying laughing.
IMDb: 4.6/10
Mike: "That's a remarkably high score for a Steven Seagal movie"
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
I thought the joke was that it was 10% "certified fresh"....
"Cus we apparently live in the year 1855" - LMFAO!!!! EXACTLY MY THOUGHTS. As soon as they mentioned that payment was in cigars and silver bars, I had immediate visuals of pioneers, cowboys and saloons and thought - WTF?!!
“The police jump on that” and then proceeds to show us how the police would, in fact, jump on that. I love this channel so much
I didn’t play the video a second time but I recall the suspect Dr. offering he hadn’t seen her in months before the police even told him who was killed. ?
@@steverogers2603 no the whole interview is more than just that interaction. He was almost immediately made aware of the case and what really happened. It’s just been edited.
Weird to think that both him and his original wife would've lived had they stayed together.
You'll never know...
You have no way of knowing that.
"Judge Jim-Bob Darnell"
Definitely in Texas 🤠
I thought the same thing 😂 it’s like physically impossible to say “Judge Jim-Bob Darnell” without a mega stereotypical southern Texas accent 😂🤠
That is funny!
Wasn’t Jim-Bob the brother of John-Boy in the Walton’s?
Absolutely my favorite detail in this story.
I was amazed he let that detail slip by without comment lol. What a name!
It is a big warning sign that a married doctor starts sleeping with his patient. In Australia a doctor dating their patient can result in deregistration medically, it is not just unethical.
Same in the U.S. but it still happens.
@@caryulmer5578 It's actually legal in many states. Frowned upon, but still legal. What, did you actually think the US _cares_ about people and makes legislation to protect them against abuses of power like this? PFFFFFFFT
@@WobblesandBean I didn't know it was legal in some states, that's interesting.
I think if the patient is really hot its exeptable.
@@ExploringCabinsandMines what if the doctor is really unattractive...is that ok then???
This channel cured my crack addiction. I simply don’t have to time to obtain it and smoke it anymore
It replaced mine
Me too ..I don't even bother to go out I sty in n watch mike
Wha, my gf been the same
Not mine. Crack too good.
I cured my crack addiction, just not my meth and heroin addiction. It’s alright though, my best friend, the purple dragon in the back yard, says he’d have to go away if it cured everything.
It's a fascinating defense of "well of course I had to kill him because when I showed up to kill him he might have tried to defend himself"
The AUDACITY of the guy to try and defend himself
@@Overlord99762 "here I was, your honor, minding my own business asleep in his flower beds waiting to kill him when he RAN and possibly got a weapon after I had fired wildly upon him, knocked open his window, and followed him into the house."
@@librarianontheloose "Of course then, I thought, I should preserve my own life, and killed him"
He looked low IQ
@@librarianontheloose C'mon now, he was afraid for his life after emptying his gun into an innocent man. And then, because he was still terrorized by the victim running away from the emptied gun, stabbing Dr. Sonnier in his "vital organs" just to make sure he wasn't a threat to I-Do-Murders-For-Hire. Fukker. Eternal damnation and hellfire is too good for this worm.
I know this probably doesn't matter to most but thanks for making these videos with plenty of volume, so many are hard for me to hear properly
What's wrong with NASA, are you a flat earther who thinks NASA was created to lie. My biggest question I have is what would the agenda be for them to make us think the earth was round if it's actually flat and I've never heard a flat earther give a real, genuine reasonable answer for that, they always deflect that question smh
@@ia6619 uh what? how is nasa related to hearing?
"Judge Jim Bob Darnell"
....honestly how does anything get done in Texas 😆
Texas judicial system sucks ass! I live here I know. 😩
I chuckled at that name too!
Well first your assuming it does.😉
It seems everything gets done with guns and silver
@@blahblahblahblah2837 Yep, that's gat dang right! God bless the Great State Of Texas! Long live Tom Landry! Yeehaw!
I love the way you say "three". Please don't stop. You are a great storyteller
"I'm not gonna say it" raises 3 fingers, lol You tease! heheheeee
Wait..."Judge Jim-Bob?"
Oh, yeah. Texas. Forgot.
Carry on...
Crawling Chaos not really. They’re both trashy names lol
I literally came here to say this haha
I literally yelled JIMBOB?! I didn't know that was an actual name 😭🤣
@@caitplanchette
Jim-Bob...Joe-Bob...yes, they're actual names...Lol!
I actually used to know a guy named Jim Bob...My parents neighbor's son...in Graham, Tx. About 2 hrs. from Abilene. Cowboy Country. LoL.
Mostly it's in West Texas. I live in North Texas.
I came here looking for this comment lol
So if he hadn't confessed, they wouldn't have been caught. And they were hardly criminal masterminds.
Seems to happen more often then I like 😱
100 episodes later. Me: “I didn’t even know I liked true crime.” Why is this channel so entertaining? Thanks, Mike!
Mike needs his own TV show. He could just read the phone book, I'd watch it.
He does have his own show. New episodes every Tuesday & Friday.
@@pennyp7382 Oh hardy-har-har you're so funny
Tv shows ruin everything. Who even still watches tv?
@@Mason-dq7cf Like, um, millions and millions of people. Mike wouldn't ruin a TV show. it would be awesome. Just like his channel on UA-cam. Only on UA-cam will someone argue against a nice compliment like the one I paid Mike. You guys are dumb.
@@amberdamber7 Only on YT? Have you been on the internet for very long? Besides, suppose it is to be expected, because this is sort of a rival platform, you know...
*Richelle: Oh I think he's going to propose!!*
Dr. Dixon: "Hey, I got you a subscription to the 'Tea of the Month Club'!!"
And I used to think my ex was bad with Gifts 😂🤯
"He was a catch.."
Shows picture of vampire.
Lmaooo
😂😂😂
I know. Right?
should have showed a virus
Cathy Brash or a maggot lol
I was way too surprised about the new gf not being the killer. She actually genuinely seemed to love him and probably feels a lot of guilt over what has happened
Me too
"She was his alibi as they were having s.......sushi." Yep, that's what I thought you were gonna say
Haha gold!
I had to watch it again to see what he said.
I thought they were having s...... Spaghetti.... mmmm i love spaghetti..
I was thinking sashimi.
See?
*holds up 3 fingers* "that number... not saying it."
me: T R E E
Tree hundred and turdy tree, I need this number in a video. In one he is on about people with illnesses, disabilities and even speech impediment and he says if they only heard me say turdy tree. I nearly died but cant remember which vid it was
Dave Sheppard was a father of tree who stole turdy grand, I love Mike
I love this channel
Same just watched every video they made over the past couple weeks now I don’t know what to watch while doing stuff
@@larrymcjones good thing he releases very frequently 😂
Me too
Me tree !!
Me too! It's my favorite.
My heart absolutely breaks for the 2 sons, their mother murdered by her new husband then their father murdered by his new partner's jealous ex.
It would be completely understandable if those 2 boys (well they are actually men now) have massive trust issues in their own relationships with partners, I sincerely hope not, I hope they both find the most loving and caring partners and live the rest of their lives in complete happiness and that both of these tragic incidents they have been forced to live through don't taint or destroy their futures.
Such a sad waste of life.
Got too love how that punk frames it like "I had to run around the corner incase he had a weapon " like he was in a precarious situation during the commission of a cold blooded murder 🤯
Grant Mck I don’t know how he “ran”. He’s huge. Probably more like a shuffle 🤣
"That number.. I'm not sayin it"
Mike you already said "He was a father of tree" (and I definitely pictured him pushing a lil baby sapling on the swings at a park)
😂
Good one 👍
Youre a genius !!
It could be worse, in one video a guy was 💩🌲 (33) I nearly died
He also said at the end that there was going to be a "turd" trial. Either he's got a speech impediment or he's taking the piss.
...Wait did I hear correctly that the hitman literally _fell asleep in his target's house_ while waiting for him to come home so he could kill him...?
No, not in his house, in his garden. Later he pushed the window in ( the man's a behemoth.)
oh he woke up... to the intended target (the victim) knocking on his own window out at the man sleeping. Only to be met with gunfire. Just insane, all of it. They’re both obviously guilty.
That’s what happens when you hire a hitman off of craigslist
@@ES11777 Haha, yeah a real pro
@@ES11777 Damn Craigslist ! You just never get what comes as advertised.
I proudly tell people "I subscribed to That chapter when it only had 20 00 subscribers" in the same way as my dad proudly tell people that he "Saw The Beatles live before they where famous".
Just can't believe the things people are all too willing to take the life of a fellow human over...
Schocking for Americans and Europeans. Just look into the South American Regions...even some kids there kill like it's nothing
It's so senseless.
It's hard to believe because you possess basic human emotions like empathy, sympathy, guilt and fear. A lot of people capable of taking life, especially in cold-blood, are lacking most if not all of these virtues. At best, they are under-developed. That's why children sometimes will do really fucked up things with no understanding.
I totally agree, its unbelievable...maybe the gun culture in the US has something to do with it, cheapens life....thankfully we don't have that here in Ireland, that's not to say we don't have murders but they don't seem to be as prolific, thankfully.
The plan of sending him a NAMBLA subscription & then murder haha, it's like he watched that VHS how to get revenge they covered on RLM
Which had similar stuff like ruining someone's social security or getting them divorced
A "turd trial." That's exactly what it would be.
😄😄😄😄😄
That's what the Johnny Depp vs amber heard trials are described as and not just cos she shit in his bed
“Yeehaa. Oil. And other Texas things.”
Lol I can’t with you
I know ...love his humor
So true sadly lol
Really really like it when Mike shows his compassion during a story .
Love how so many criminals get caught just for being stupid and blabbing about it
Edit: how do you fall asleep waiting to commit a murder? Like what
How do you ensure your victim is dead and then stab his vital organs??!!
Xanax or psychopathy
Maybe he was telling the truth and he wasn't actually there to murder him? I mean, it is possible that he was being asked to take photos of Sonnier but got bored and fell asleep, then was startled by being woken up and, in a half-dream state of fuzzy thinking, he thought he was in danger and shot his pistol... then, once you've shot once, you think the only course of action now is to continue due to adrenaline building up in the system and it becoming a fight/flight scenario.
Can you imagine shooting & stabbing someone for a "friend" who gives you a bunch of nothing for doing it ......😳 I can't even get a friend to join me for a coffee 🙈
Not nothing, bars of silver! You can spend big at your local haberdashery or saloon!
@@tranquilrabies who the hell just has bars of silver laying around like thay😂
@@tranquilrabies who the hell just has bars of silver laying around like thay😂
@@PrincessZaire100 i got 1 of silver and 1 of gold my grandpa left me
Well, maybe if you were more willing to commit murder for your friends, they'd join you for coffee. 🤷🏻♀️
Wish Dr Sonnier called the police when he found dude asleep in the garden. DAMN
Judge “Jim Bob” Darnell. 🤣🤣🤣 I can’t help it, I’m screaming!
Time to settle in for some True Crime with my morning coffee. Texas, oh boy, sounds like we better buckle in. Thanks, Mike!
Thanks for watching Benny!
This one actually made me really sad. He was just a good guy, didn’t do anything to anyone. The guy who was gonna kill him fell asleep, and instead of calling the police he wakes him up and waves at him. If only he would’ve called the police or ran away. He didn’t deserve any of what he got :(
Who hires a hitman who gets tips from a Steven Seagal movie? Good grief...
Well look at him ... Dave shepherd isn't the smart suave type is he? He's disgusting.
Gold bars and cuban cigars 😂
Who hires a hitman? There's an even gooder grief...
Hitman is not a profession in the West thankfully, you can't search for one on the Internet. So in all these cases that we see on youtube most of the times it's an idiot they know and persuade to kill, and even then most run to the cops and become a witness against the one that asked them to kill. It's remarkable that this piece of shit went through with it, to me it seems he was faithful to this doctor the wrong way, like he had some honor or so, morals, but no morals for the victim.
@Kiwihouse2005 B. Maybe, maybe not, I do believe there's a part of the Internet we normal users never come but to state that you can find a professional hit man there easily... Based on facts I think it's bs. Watched over a 100 of these videos, like most, and never seen a video where they hired a hitman on 'the dark web. Only cases where the hitman was trouble, ratted, didn't dare to do it etc.' Why not go to the yellow pages of the darkweb if it's that easy? Because it's not true.
@Kiwihouse2005 B. That's true, you can't know what you don't know but that's why I look at what these ppl did that actually needed a hitman, they don't go to the darkweb. But maybe what you're saying is true for professional drug dealers, ppl like that, I don't know, maybe you're right.
"week...2? *chuckles* I can't count"
that's an honest man lol
As a native Texan, a lot of us do, in fact, live in the year 1855.
I can't remember which border it was but as I was coming into Texas I saw a sign that said "Welcome to Texas. Stubbornly resisting change since 1983". XD We know what people think of us down here and we just own it. Haha
Judge "Jim Bob" Darnell......that's the most Texas Judge ever
nah, Joe Bill Dingleberry wins by a hat.
Judge Roy Bean.
I have a debilitating disease and half blind, soon to receive eye surgery, I hope. I cant drive or read for long, so these stories are a blessing.
Covering a case in my area. Thank you! This one was very wild
I agree that we need a name for doctors who do plenty of harm. How about Hypocritic Oafs?
Quacks?
Elizabeth Barr Brilliant!
@Tazer Face oh shut up
I may have to use that myself!! Excellent.
So this “Doctor” was in relationship with his patient (while married), then after after she broke up with him, he dated a medical student. That’s WAY beyond unprofessional.
Not in Texas. That's just par for the course.
It is, in fact, beyond asshood.
Alot of them do!
It's risky to hold anyone to a higher standard just because of their career choice. Js
He's one of those "professionals" that don't care
I don't think his lack of professionalism was really the biggest issue.....
We love you Mike OHHHHHHH! From Toronto Canada here, keeping you always supplied with content:)
Hi, fellow Canadian!🍁🇨🇦🌲 👋Nova Scotia here!
@@LynnE507 Awesome!:)
Let me just say how tragic for Dr. Sonnier’s sons. To have one parent murdered is rare but to have both parents murdered in separate tragedies is just horrific. My heart goes out to them.