That specific store took so much of my money when I lived there. It is where I fell in love with 10mm. They recommended a ruger SR1911 in 10mm when I went in for a revolver for bear protection while fishing the Galkana. Man I miss Alaska.
Took my 3.8 on a 15 mile hike over a 2 day trip out of Seward last weekend. Still waiting for my chest holster to arrive, so I took the opportunity to play around between the full size grip sleeve and standard mag. When hiking I put my holster on my pack hipbelt with the 15rd mag and 11rd in a pocket w/ a NeoMag clip. At camp tried OWB concealed between 4-5:00 w/ the 11rd and 15rd in pocket. I was with some folks not used to being around firearms, so I appreciated the ease of it “disappearing” at camp and when back at the truck.
Yep. I have two of the full size mags for my 3.8, too, similar to your reason. But now that there's a 16 round version of the mag for the 4.5 10mm, Ima gonna have ta get me a couple of thems, too. :D And SA announced today that the have the 4.5 in OD Green. Even though I have the FDE 5.25 and the Black 4.5 first gen 10mm's I may have to pick that one up as well.
Me too bro I want the 3.8 but it doesn’t come in the OD Green so I’m gonna have to choose…but compact and the mag sleeve for the 15rd mag will suffice…I use a xgrip for my g30s and use the g21 mag fits my hand perfectly
@@snoopywl8880 no kidding that’s hardest part of hiking on Smokey mtns doing the long multi night hikes deep in the park, I prefer a 10mm when I got there normally carry micro 9mm and then either smallish 40, or .357sig for black bears. I’ve done the 10mm Glocks a couple times but just too big for G20 and 29 I had gave me fits with some full power ammo.
I've got the 3.8 inch version. It is a keeper for sure. For my full, duty sized 10mm pistols, I went with the Sig X-TEN and the S&W M&P Performance Center. Then, just for kicks, I have the 7 inch S&W 610. Good stuff Chukeley! 👍🏿
5.25. Go big, or go home. Gunner's Custom Holsters did my IWB kydex holster with room for a rail laser. I added a claw. They do all 3 barrel sizes. Just clarify in the notes if you have an optic.
Chile, you know your guns. I just bought the 4.5 version and did not realize how big this handgun is. I have Glocks and carried the model 17 and model 19 on duty in Philly. I had no problems with both these weapons. I am a little disappointed with the size of the XD-m 10 MM. But, I haven’t shot it so I can’t wait to shoot it and see if this is the gun for me. Thank you for all your expertise.
Great video that answered a lot of questions. I want one with a safety, so this will do fine having the grip and trigger, the glock 20 of course is a no go. The rock island 1911 are great but weight is an issue and reliability. I wish that full size grip was a tad shorter, but like you said it's relative to what it's going to be used for. Thanks much!
I bought the 3.8” with the Hex and was thinking about jumping ship to the P320 or the XDM 4.5” since mine is strictly used for the woods. Now I’m thinking if I stick with the 3.8” and decided to EDC I could just use it. Maybe just get the 15 round mag for the 3.8 when in the woods.
I currently run the 3.8 Elite in an appendix IWB holster. I keep trying to convince myself that I can carry the 4.5 Elite the same way 🤣. Haven't pulled the trigger on the 4.5 yet. Just keep telling myself that grip will be hard to hide. If it could be concealed that 4.5 would be a beast to conceal. Better velocity and five more rounds then the 3.8.
Chuke, props brother, love the channel, but when releasing the slide on an empty mag don’t let it fly free, use off hand to slow the slide. Bad for it to use the slide release with no round for it to seat. Keep ‘em coming brother.
I've heard good things about the 3.8, but with my large hands no compact feels right to me. I have the 4.5" and it feels perfect in the hand. The flared mag well gives me plenty leverage to control the snappy recoil. Also, 15 + 1 rounds of 10mm is really nice wether facing a murderous bear or man. To top it all off, I believe the 4.5" is suitable for concealed carry, although I am choosing a good vertical shoulder holster to do so (actually it will have a 35 degree can't.) I will use it for hunting and for concealed carry in jacket weather.
If you are going to have the tall grip might as well have the long barrel too. The grip is what makes it harder to conceal. Plus you can get the 15rd mags with the sleeve if you want the same as the longer 4.5 grip.
@@pt6998 I'm in a wheelchair so if the barrel is to long the gun will dig into my ribs when I lean forward to push my chair. That's why I'm thinking of this combo but you're right most of the time barrel length doesn't matter when concealing
GREAT QUESTION! That barrel fits in the 3.8 for sure. I did it at 3-bears. Not sure if it affects the operation at all, though. It looks fine sticking out. Could you port it a little? Or is there not enough sticking out to do that?
What Alien Gear holster do you have for the 3.8? I called their company asking about one and they told me they didn’t have any for the elite models. Any info is appreciated. Great content as always!
@@ChukesOutdoorAdventures nope the gear up promo is back on!!! It goes through August 31st and all springfield armory striker fired pistols are eligible!!! I took advantage on July 1st and got the 4.5 xdm and my 3 mags and range bag are on the way!!!
I only “chose “ the 4.5” because I won a no reserve Gunbroker auction for an amazing price. Just picked it up from a local FFL. Can’t wait to take it to the range.
What do I think? I think you've been watching Dogman @ paranormal research. Me too! I just bought the 4.5" and I love it! I got mine just in case I run up on a frog, I mean, Dogman.😂 I don't know why I thought that was funny. I had a to close for comfort run in with a Bigfoot half my 53 year old lifetime ago. If he's real, then who to say a Dogman isn't too? 220 grain 10mm at 1200 fps will deal with him. I'll have my Bull Pup 12 gauge with me to. Ain't no freaks of nature running me off my camping spot. I camp on Gamland AFTER hunting season. Yeah! I sneek it, but that's what's so fun about it. Personally, I just carry a Ruger EC9s when I conceal carry. Well, that's in the winter. In summer, I just tote a NAA 22 Mag in my front pocket. It's better than a sharp stick! I don't go in the woods in the summer. It's hotter than piss in NC! I get my kicks on my Bad Motorscooter during the summer. I have carried my XDM 45 concealed. I didn't mind it to bad. I sure liked looking over at it laying beside of me when I was in my sleeping bag. I freaking love a Springfield! I've never liked the looks of a Block I mean Glock.😂 I'm probably gonna catch some slack for saying that. 😮 SPIT!😁
I have a 3.8 and it will not feed the red underwood harped cast ammo. It will pull from magazines but fails to go int battery almost every time. Then you have to beat the brakes off of it to extract the stuck round.
@@ChukesOutdoorAdventures . It's been my EDC since I got it. I carry 3 extra magazines with underwood extreme penatrators and hard cast in my truck just in case I decide to take a hike or go in the woods spare of the moment.
I have only shot a 4.5" 45 acp XD RE size if bear is the issue 4.5" full grip is a min . for city carry I found the SIG M11-A1 3.9" has a better grip than a G19 & you can get extended mags that are very good . Also DA/SA is much better . I would go with G20 with 200 gr XTP or JSPs . I don't own a 10mm SIG that would likely be my 2nt or tied for 1st place for bear . Not sure the best SIG ... it would be DA/SA
@@ChukesOutdoorAdventures Also you probably already know the customer service line is outstanding I had a person on the phone within a minute and had no problem talking to me and figure it out whatever I needed, I was impressed
Sportsman's in Anchorage had the OD green 4.5" in stock and picked one up today. Love my compact, but the I had to get the 4.5". Especially with the 3 free mags and range bag thing going on right now.
@@ChukesOutdoorAdventures The 10mm selection keeps getting bigger, a Steyr 10mm version of the M-40 A1 would be cool, so would a 10mm version of the Taurus hammer fired TH40.
It's hard to imagine being out in the mountains and wilderness and only wanting a compact😂 makes no sense to me you would think you'd want at least a 4.5 or longer. More rounds also. If you're using the 15-round magazine on the 3.8 that's about the same grip height and what's the point then might as well have the original grip.
I’m new to handguns, been trying different ones that my friends and family own. Liking the springfields liking the smith and wessons. The glocks seem fine but… gun counter guy suggested the 10mm Glock. Did not like that. Felt like I was aiming down a 2x4.
Chuke. I live 3 miles from Alien Gear. Been in there many times pestering them about making a holster for the 3.8. Do they now? Please elaborate. Watch your vids all the time but normally under a different handle. Thank you
Chuke...I just bought the XDM Elite 10mm in 4.5. I would like to put a laser on it (green)...got any suggestions for me? I have a GS holster for my Glock 10mm and love it....do you know if GS makes a kydex holster my the XDM with the laser on it....Gonna contact them but I am gonna wait until I get the laser on the XDM. Thanks and love the shows....
I haven't bought one because I'm not a big fan of grip safeties and also my 29 locks into my hand a lot better. Could there be that one time when you couldn't for some reason get hold of and depress that grip safety?
Got to hold one of the 4.5" at the shop the other day. Not a fan! Doesn't feel nearly as good as the original XDM 10mm in my hand. Not liking the long XDM Elite grips at all. They don't push your hand up into the grip like the old ones do. Like the feel of the SIG better. But, the G40 is still my favorite. Feels best in my hands of all of them.
For you lefties, these are fully ambidextrous. Something I wish content creators would at least take 2 seconds to address or at least flip the gun over like he did for a hot second.
I say buy neither! The XDM's are so incredibly ugly. I don't know how anyone could carry such an ugly pistol. I wouldn't be caught dead with such an ugly pistol. Buy a Glock 10mm instead. Glock's are so beautiful and proven reliable.
The one that say Grip zones are a little hideous looking but as a Glock owner I would have no proof buying one of these elite pistols. They definitely aren't for everyone..
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Just got picked up the new XDM Elite 10mm in OD Green a Sportsman warehouse exclusive in Fairbanks. It's so awesome. They had 43 of them.
Oh man I want one!!
That specific store took so much of my money when I lived there. It is where I fell in love with 10mm. They recommended a ruger SR1911 in 10mm when I went in for a revolver for bear protection while fishing the Galkana. Man I miss Alaska.
Took my 3.8 on a 15 mile hike over a 2 day trip out of Seward last weekend. Still waiting for my chest holster to arrive, so I took the opportunity to play around between the full size grip sleeve and standard mag. When hiking I put my holster on my pack hipbelt with the 15rd mag and 11rd in a pocket w/ a NeoMag clip. At camp tried OWB concealed between 4-5:00 w/ the 11rd and 15rd in pocket. I was with some folks not used to being around firearms, so I appreciated the ease of it “disappearing” at camp and when back at the truck.
Awesome! For sure it’s good to have that option!
Yep. I have two of the full size mags for my 3.8, too, similar to your reason. But now that there's a 16 round version of the mag for the 4.5 10mm, Ima gonna have ta get me a couple of thems, too. :D
And SA announced today that the have the 4.5 in OD Green. Even though I have the FDE 5.25 and the Black 4.5 first gen 10mm's I may have to pick that one up as well.
Me too bro I want the 3.8 but it doesn’t come in the OD Green so I’m gonna have to choose…but compact and the mag sleeve for the 15rd mag will suffice…I use a xgrip for my g30s and use the g21 mag fits my hand perfectly
100% agree the size makes the little one great for carry, hiking still can hide it in public, & will work hunting. Thanks chuke
Perfect for hiking busy trails where you might encounter a wild karen
@@snoopywl8880 no kidding that’s hardest part of hiking on Smokey mtns doing the long multi night hikes deep in the park, I prefer a 10mm when I got there normally carry micro 9mm and then either smallish 40, or .357sig for black bears. I’ve done the 10mm Glocks a couple times but just too big for G20 and 29 I had gave me fits with some full power ammo.
I agree with your choice. I have the compact and totally love it!!!!!! Bought the 15 round mag for it, so its very versatile!
I've got the 3.8 inch version. It is a keeper for sure. For my full, duty sized 10mm pistols, I went with the Sig X-TEN and the S&W M&P Performance Center. Then, just for kicks, I have the 7 inch S&W 610. Good stuff Chukeley! 👍🏿
Traded my 4.5 inch for the 3.8 inch with a red dot and kept one of the full size mags.. best decision for concealing
I Absolutely love the 3.8!
I have 2 of the 15 round mags with mine.
It’s a great pistol!
Love it 10mm 3.8 have 3 -15 round mags too 10 rounds just can,t have enough, great gun,
Would have liked to see a comparison of accuracy between the two and FPS.
I have both and love both. Also have the original Xdm 10mm 4.5 They all are amazing handguns
I like the 4.5 inch! Thanks for sharing
Good choice!
5.25. Go big, or go home.
Gunner's Custom Holsters did my IWB kydex holster with room for a rail laser. I added a claw. They do all 3 barrel sizes. Just clarify in the notes if you have an optic.
NICE!!
Well, I bought each one and I am not disappointed. Enjoy the ten everyone.
Absolutely!!
700 + thru my 3.8 , love it
Chile, you know your guns. I just bought the 4.5 version and did not realize how big this handgun is. I have Glocks and carried the model 17 and model 19 on duty in Philly. I had no problems with both these weapons. I am a little disappointed with the size of the XD-m 10 MM. But, I haven’t shot it so I can’t wait to shoot it and see if this is the gun for me. Thank you for all your expertise.
Good luck! Hope you like it!
Springfield is running a sale right now July 1 through August 31. Get 3 additional mags and a soft case if you buy a striker fired pistol.
I hope they run this deal when the 5.5” comes out
I saw that , grrrrr
already got one
Great video that answered a lot of questions. I want one with a safety, so this will do fine having the grip and trigger, the glock 20 of course is a no go. The rock island 1911 are great but weight is an issue and reliability. I wish that full size grip was a tad shorter, but like you said it's relative to what it's going to be used for. Thanks much!
I bought the 3.8” with the Hex and was thinking about jumping ship to the P320 or the XDM 4.5” since mine is strictly used for the woods. Now I’m thinking if I stick with the 3.8” and decided to EDC I could just use it. Maybe just get the 15 round mag for the 3.8 when in the woods.
Right on! Great job Chuke.
Thank you!
3.8 Elite.
I currently run the 3.8 Elite in an appendix IWB holster. I keep trying to convince myself that I can carry the 4.5 Elite the same way 🤣. Haven't pulled the trigger on the 4.5 yet. Just keep telling myself that grip will be hard to hide. If it could be concealed that 4.5 would be a beast to conceal. Better velocity and five more rounds then the 3.8.
yea i’m on the same boat i think i can conceal it 😂
Chuke, props brother, love the channel, but when releasing the slide on an empty mag don’t let it fly free, use off hand to slow the slide. Bad for it to use the slide release with no round for it to seat.
Keep ‘em coming brother.
I've heard good things about the 3.8, but with my large hands no compact feels right to me. I have the 4.5" and it feels perfect in the hand. The flared mag well gives me plenty leverage to control the snappy recoil. Also, 15 + 1 rounds of 10mm is really nice wether facing a murderous bear or man. To top it all off, I believe the 4.5" is suitable for concealed carry, although I am choosing a good vertical shoulder holster to do so (actually it will have a 35 degree can't.) I will use it for hunting and for concealed carry in jacket weather.
Put the 3.8 barrel and slide on the 4.5 frame. Best of both worlds!!
Oh man might have to!!!
@@ChukesOutdoorAdventures saw a video it works just fine I'd think about doing it if it didn't mean buying 2 guns
If you are going to have the tall grip might as well have the long barrel too. The grip is what makes it harder to conceal. Plus you can get the 15rd mags with the sleeve if you want the same as the longer 4.5 grip.
@@pt6998 I'm in a wheelchair so if the barrel is to long the gun will dig into my ribs when I lean forward to push my chair. That's why I'm thinking of this combo but you're right most of the time barrel length doesn't matter when concealing
Just put the 15 round mag in the 3.8 Elite. Done.
Great videos! Curious, does the 4.5 barrel work in the 3.8 model? (Potentially giving the increased bullet velocity?)
GREAT QUESTION! That barrel fits in the 3.8 for sure. I did it at 3-bears. Not sure if it affects the operation at all, though. It looks fine sticking out. Could you port it a little? Or is there not enough sticking out to do that?
you can shoot the black cherry Underwood ammo in your Glocks as stated on the company's website
I got the xd elite 4.5" 10mm auto with a talon grip and suppressor hight sights and holosun 407c x2 green for hunting
I own the 3.8 and i love my baby.
What Alien Gear holster do you have for the 3.8? I called their company asking about one and they told me they didn’t have any for the elite models. Any info is appreciated. Great content as always!
Yes we need to know
Same here there’s not a lot of choices for the 3.8 Especially if you have a light or a red dot on it
Looks like crossbreed holster makes them with laser/light options as well, seems like it’s limited to crimson trace or TLR-6
Choose the one you hit the best with.
SPRINGFIELD ARMORY HAS BROUGHT BACK THEIR GEAR UP PROMOTION. 3 extra mags and a range bag. Just saying;)
I missed it!! By a month lol
@@ChukesOutdoorAdventures nope the gear up promo is back on!!! It goes through August 31st and all springfield armory striker fired pistols are eligible!!! I took advantage on July 1st and got the 4.5 xdm and my 3 mags and range bag are on the way!!!
@@ChukesOutdoorAdventures what you think about the XD-M 5.25 9mm?
I only “chose “ the 4.5” because I won a no reserve Gunbroker auction for an amazing price. Just picked it up from a local FFL. Can’t wait to take it to the range.
I just submitted my info for the promotion Friday.
What do I think? I think you've been watching Dogman @ paranormal research. Me too!
I just bought the 4.5" and I love it! I got mine just in case I run up on a frog, I mean, Dogman.😂 I don't know why I thought that was funny. I had a to close for comfort run in with a Bigfoot half my 53 year old lifetime ago. If he's real, then who to say a Dogman isn't too? 220 grain 10mm at 1200 fps will deal with him. I'll have my Bull Pup 12 gauge with me to. Ain't no freaks of nature running me off my camping spot. I camp on Gamland AFTER hunting season. Yeah! I sneek it, but that's what's so fun about it.
Personally, I just carry a Ruger EC9s when I conceal carry. Well, that's in the winter. In summer, I just tote a NAA 22 Mag in my front pocket. It's better than a sharp stick! I don't go in the woods in the summer. It's hotter than piss in NC! I get my kicks on my Bad Motorscooter during the summer.
I have carried my XDM 45 concealed. I didn't mind it to bad. I sure liked looking over at it laying beside of me when I was in my sleeping bag. I freaking love a Springfield! I've never liked the looks of a Block I mean Glock.😂 I'm probably gonna catch some slack for saying that. 😮 SPIT!😁
Chuke wait till Glock comes out with the Gen 5 29X, haha kidding thanks for sharing! Happy Independence Day!
I have a 3.8 and it will not feed the red underwood harped cast ammo. It will pull from magazines but fails to go int battery almost every time. Then you have to beat the brakes off of it to extract the stuck round.
Sounds like out of spec ammunition or barrel. I got the same gun and ammo and shoots perfect. Underwood might have put out a bad batch.
Love both but I like the feel of the elite better and it can be my EDC woods or sububan
Exactly!
@@ChukesOutdoorAdventures . It's been my EDC since I got it. I carry 3 extra magazines with underwood extreme penatrators and hard cast in my truck just in case I decide to take a hike or go in the woods spare of the moment.
I have only shot a 4.5" 45 acp XD RE size if bear is the issue 4.5" full grip is a min . for city carry I found the SIG M11-A1 3.9" has a better grip than a G19 & you can get extended mags that are very good . Also DA/SA is much better . I would go with G20 with 200 gr XTP or JSPs . I don't own a 10mm SIG that would likely be my 2nt or tied for 1st place for bear . Not sure the best SIG ... it would be DA/SA
Good info thanks!! M11-A1 feels way better in the hand than a G19 for sure too!
@@ChukesOutdoorAdventures For people that don't know an M11-A1 is an up graded for military use P229 , 9mm , 15 rd .
I’ve shot 200gr hard cast and underwood hot loads out of a 3.8 osp. Sure a bit more snap but with proper grip not a big deal.
I called Springfield and they sent out suppressed height sights for 30
Not bad, good to know thank you!!
@@ChukesOutdoorAdventures Also you probably already know the customer service line is outstanding I had a person on the phone within a minute and had no problem talking to me and figure it out whatever I needed, I was impressed
Couldn't decide, so I got both.
Getting the 9mm version tomorrow and was thinking fde but probably get black, plus its cheaper.
Tough Comparison. Good Pros N Cons 🤠👍
For sure! 👊🏼
I can’t never decide! I had to get both! Sorry I’m no help. 💰 when in Yeti country pack heavy!🤟🏻👀
4.5 perfect for home defense.
Agreed!
First pistol I had with a red dot now I'm addicted to red dots on pistols
Same!
Sportsman's in Anchorage had the OD green 4.5" in stock and picked one up today. Love my compact, but the I had to get the 4.5". Especially with the 3 free mags and range bag thing going on right now.
Was that mailed or did Sportsman have the extra mag and range bag in stock with your purchase?
@@MoManny it's a rebate so the 3 extra mags and range bag are mailed to you. You're gonna wait a while to get them, but it's free.
@@kyleritchie50 oh, got it! Thanks for clarifying
Save up and buy both, just like with a Glock 20 and the 29 pitbull.
Yep, correct answer!
@@ChukesOutdoorAdventures The 10mm selection keeps getting bigger, a Steyr 10mm version of the M-40 A1 would be cool, so would a 10mm version of the Taurus hammer fired TH40.
It's hard to imagine being out in the mountains and wilderness and only wanting a compact😂 makes no sense to me you would think you'd want at least a 4.5 or longer. More rounds also. If you're using the 15-round magazine on the 3.8 that's about the same grip height and what's the point then might as well have the original grip.
Get a FN tactical 510
I have both, case solved 👌
I’m new to handguns, been trying different ones that my friends and family own. Liking the springfields liking the smith and wessons. The glocks seem fine but… gun counter guy suggested the 10mm Glock. Did not like that. Felt like I was aiming down a 2x4.
I did not see the suppressor height sights on Springfield’s site.
well i like the looks of the mini and would fit my hand better good choise how do those sun catcher holosuns work out for you
Chuke. I live 3 miles from Alien Gear. Been in there many times pestering them about making a holster for the 3.8. Do they now? Please elaborate. Watch your vids all the time but normally under a different handle. Thank you
Chuke...I just bought the XDM Elite 10mm in 4.5. I would like to put a laser on it (green)...got any suggestions for me? I have a GS holster for my Glock 10mm and love it....do you know if GS makes a kydex holster my the XDM with the laser on it....Gonna contact them but I am gonna wait until I get the laser on the XDM. Thanks and love the shows....
4.5 inch. 3.8 does not give the 10mm the velocity it should have out of the barrel. And that from a nurse who was a former Ranger that i worked with
I’m hoping for a 6”
That would be amazing!!
I’d bet a 5.25” is in the pipes with companies like KKM a 5.5” threaded or 6” barrel is probably also in the pipes.
3.8
Yes
Which scell for the 3.8 10mm alien gear shape shift..?
Both.
Correct
This is philosophical question 🤣😂😅
Debating on trading my 3.8 for the full size
Did you end up trading it in for the 4.5"?
@liamdavis9772 . Na ended up keeping it, it's easier to conceal
@@D-A-1776gotcha. Thanks for your response.
I haven't bought one because I'm not a big fan of grip safeties and also my 29 locks into my hand a lot better.
Could there be that one time when you couldn't for some reason get hold of and depress that grip safety?
Yeah what alien gear holster fits the 3.8 with a red dot?
What is the best full power self defense ammo for the 3.8 compact
Do you shoot Hard cast out of a kkm barrel for the G20?
Got to hold one of the 4.5" at the shop the other day. Not a fan! Doesn't feel nearly as good as the original XDM 10mm in my hand. Not liking the long XDM Elite grips at all. They don't push your hand up into the grip like the old ones do. Like the feel of the SIG better. But, the G40 is still my favorite. Feels best in my hands of all of them.
I went with the 4.5 and the 5.25 XDm, but I don't use optics.
Six fifty bucks 😂😂😂 04:20
Can the back grip saftey be pinned?
Get both
"...What seems to be your boggle?..."
Nice 👍
5.25 without slide cut
4.5 between those 2
Hmm wich one? 🤔. I'd pick the Smith or the Glock 😂
FIRST🇺🇸
Do you like it over SigX10 and Smith and Wesson 10?
No contest the 4.5 inch which is the one I got
HS Produkt makes an excellent product. This is not a Springfield armory.
For you lefties, these are fully ambidextrous. Something I wish content creators would at least take 2 seconds to address or at least flip the gun over like he did for a hot second.
4.8"
Glock is still my choice for 10MM. Not fan of springfield armory. Had good luck with my Smith Wesson 10MM
If I had a choice I prefer the Glock
The 4.5 came out before the 3.8 did
GRIP SAFETY?? BYE BYE, NOT BUY BUY
I say buy neither! The XDM's are so incredibly ugly. I don't know how anyone could carry such an ugly pistol. I wouldn't be caught dead with such an ugly pistol. Buy a Glock 10mm instead. Glock's are so beautiful and proven reliable.
I love the look , have a g23 , 27 too . beauty is in the eye of the beholder I guess
Glocks look like crap.
You think that bear or two legged critter is going to stop and admire your Glock when you have to use it on them? 🤣
The one that say Grip zones are a little hideous looking but as a Glock owner I would have no proof buying one of these elite pistols. They definitely aren't for everyone..
Dude, there s no denying the reliability of most all glocks but let's not negate the fact that they are extremely hideous..