XD-M Elite 10MM Compact Grip Options - Removing Magwell and Extended Mag
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- Опубліковано 17 лис 2021
- Love the new Springfield XD-M Elite 10MM Compact but have had trouble with pinky placement and flared magwell.
Here will look at the standard grip vs Sig P320 X-Compact, HK 45C and Sig P938. Will also show grip with the extended 15 round mag.
This is going to be my next Firearm. I always wanted the perfect 10mm Carry gun. Springfield has been killing it lately.
I’m now a fan for sure. This is a great gun! Are you buying with the optic or without?
@@TheArkansasGunGuy
There have been some issues with the optic so I’m glad I got mine without one
@@user-zu9uh9xc1i yeah - the optic never really did anything for me so i'm gad I skipped it too.... i'm pretty happy with just the sites!!
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Hey, I just ordered my 2 days ago...and today I just ordered the 15+1 mag with the sleeve.....I am sooooooo in love
No heavy music and you get right to it. Good job.
Thank you so very much!! Made my day!! APPRECIATE YOU watching!
I’ve been WAITING for someone to show what it’ll look like without the mag well. I’ll be following suit on that change. Thanks 2A brother 🙌🏾🤙🏾
THANK YOU SO MUCH for watching!!
Took the larger magwell adapter off and just running with the 11rd mag. Working good so far.
Mine came with (2) 10-rounders did i get an old one or something?
@alexmiller6848 You got a California legal one I think.
@@pt6998 ok well I only paid 370 for it with the dot lol and 3 boxes of 10mm - Edit : I did have the 11 round mags the whole time just didn't know because the 11 isnt printed on the back of the mag.
Thanks for the video, I picked mine up yesterday under the Firstline program. Heck of a deal on them plus it comes with (3) mags and range bag. I decided that the mag well flair was the first thing to go your video fit the bill!
I just got an XD-M compact in 10mm. It’s the first time I’ve shot 10mm. It’s a fun load to shoot, stout but Springfield (or the Croatians) makes it easier to handle with a really well designed pistol. It’s going to be one of my favorites for edc. I agree it’s a much better hold without the magwell.
It's the only reason why I haven't purchased one yet, that magwell is awkward for my hand size. Thank you for showing it removed, been hoping to see it this way. Seems like the standard baseplate with magwell removed would be the way to go.
I just removed my magwell ( pretty easy). The extended mag is in place but only had the ( small #1) matching mag grip extension. My XDM game with two 9 round mags. I picked up a few used ones .
The most confusing issue is match your mag sleeve extension to the back strap. I have large hands a d wanted to use the larger back strap but my mag sleeve is small #1.
Really seems to confusing to match it up.
I found one used mag with the Pierce style mag sleeve, works great in pistol
( 3.8 .45 OSP) . Love the extend grip and ability to go conceal by just changing mags!!!!!
I have carried a Glock 30 S with Glock 21 mag as back up. Both pistols are capable of the same mag capacities due to the exceptence of larger magazines.
Range bound today!!!
They need to come out with another magwell 1/4” longer for purchase. It wouldn’t be hard for them to do. Jeeze.. without it, its crap. With that magwell.. I haven’t seen anyone who’s hand fits it. Everyone could use another 1/4”
Great video man, this is exactly what I was trying to figure out! I have the same issue with my pinky and needed the visual to be able to make a better decision on what route to take!
Thank you so much for the kind words / and for watching!
Wwwhat! Your grip issue is the same problem I have. I took off the mag well and use the the extended mag, it gives me the same grip as my P320 X carry.. Great simple to the point video. Been thinking of using Drexel tool and sand down the profile on the front of the mag well piece.
Very informative. This is exactly what I was looking for. I have 9MM with same set up. I am going to remove my Magwell and use compact mag with extended baseplate.
Thank you for watching!!!
The first 10 minutes of owning mine I took the mag well off. I don't even know why they put it on the gun.
Yeah, me too. It fits no one's hand. Without it, it a decent fit
With Polished mags I guess they where thinking it would be even faster to reload with a mag well?? But this is a compact so it’s purpose is defense, so I’ll be taking the mag well off. What a great gun!!! It’s a powerful round yet pleasant to shoot, it’s comfortable and has enough features to make it a hell of a deal at $600. Great new addition 9.5 out of 10 I say 👍
Trigger sucks on this thing. Not the worst but not crisp at all especially on reset.
What is the point of it, anyway?
Facts😂😂😂 I didn't know it was removable I would've been bought a XDM 🥴
While on the 10mm may be different, on the 9mm you can use the +rounds base pads with the sleeve. In other words, you can try to install that +1 round plate on that 15 round mag with sleeve. On the 9mm you can use the 22 round mag with a sleeve and fits fine.
FYI PEARCE GRIPS have made a PG-ME10+ pinky extension for the XDM10 ELITE COMPACT. After removing the magwell extension, I swapped out my base plates for this one and LOVE LOVE LOVE IT! Perfect feeling in the hand now and super ERGO! guys if you have this model, you will not be sorry you got a PG-ME10+ extension. It adds a round also to the mag. 12+1 instead of 11+1.
VERY good to know - thank you for sharing and THANK YOU for watching!!
Thanks for this video. Just acquired and good to hear more about grip and mag options. 👍
This was actually informative. Nice job all the other reviews don’t really talk or actually show this. The magazine well is done that way so you really get the shortest grip for carry and concealment. If I remove it because it bothers me to I will just edc my Glock 20 2x4. Now I get to play with my back straps and red dot 🔴. Funny I never owned a red dot and I really don’t care to even put it on. This gun is like a figit spinner you can constantly tweak it for 700 bucks. It’s up there with my CZ 🍊 shadow 2 for fun even though two different animals. Smith and Wesson 10 mm turned me off with 7 plastic plates and different screw lengths and fair trigger compared to the shield. We have to support our Vodka drinking neighbors. Ha enjoy.
THANK YOU FOR WATCHING and the awesome comments. This gun is SO versatile. I am curious about the Smith/Wesson - it came out after I bought the XD-M - especially since they are relocating to Maryville TN (used to live there) - but I was actually super fascinated with the Croatian connection on this gun. THANK YOU again for watching!!
I've been waiting for this video, thanks for sharing!
Thank YOU for watching!!!
I wish one of these reviews would measure exactly how long the grip is from top to bottom, so I can compare that to my current XD-9, which fits in my hand perfectly. I cannot tell from the videos if the full size would be more comfortable than the compact with extended magazine. Not a single dealer in my area has either model in stock, so i can't feel it prior to purchasing.
This is my new gun to carry while hiking here in east Tennessee. I carry my g20 some but mostly this because it can shoot hard cast without changing the barrel. Great gun.
Used to live in East Tennessee before moving to Arkansas!! Beautiful part of the world / and perfect place to use a 10mm!!! Thanks for watching!!
Just got my XD-M Elite 10mm and I love it. I installed a Holosun HS507C and looks and feel nice. Now I'm looking for a holster. What holster are you using?
I think I'm gonna try the pierce pinky extension for the xdm and see how it feels. For cc of course and extended mag for the woods. Just my opinion.
( I used the Pearce pinky extension on one of the first XDM 3.8" 45 acps that first came out several years ago and it felt amazing.)
You know I was just commenting on thr video I just got a xdm elite 45 3.8 and I got the pierce extension plus one grip,I couldn't get it to lock in after I swapped out the stock plates couldn't find any videos on install and it's my first springfield pistol,pierce emailed me back and said I had to remove that mag flar in order to get it to fit ,so I'm about to remove that dumb thing,it gets in the way of sturdy grip
Thanks for this video, exactly what I was looking for.
Thank YOU for watching!!!
Well I have to admit you guys are right. I recently got this gun in .45acp with the 5 10 round mags. I was trying to tell myself that the magwell wasn't that big of a deal, but when i took it off, it does feel better. Guess I'll be leaving it off as well...
weird design, right? I've actually since sold this gun - but that grip is still in my memory. THANK YOU for watching!
Thank you for the review and tip. Great video.
Thank you so much for watching!!!
I love mines I took it out to the range two times and love it, it's in my edc now with some 180gr Underwood I had to take the mag well off so I can grip it better I also put some talon rubber grip on my XD-m 10mm and man it feel good.
It quickly may become my EDC as well. Ordered the QVO Holster Springfield promoted with the launch and I really like it so far. LOVE shooting the gun SO much power!!!! THANK YOU for watching!!
@@TheArkansasGunGuy Yes sir this is a little hand canon.
Exactly the same for me. Runner Talon grip and running with no magwell adapter.
Good review especially showing the flat base plate. They coukd have added that 1/2 making a 12rd mag as standard and I could get a good grip. Guess they wanted it with the short grip to conceal. I took the mag well off and kept those fatter base plates on. Seems the best we can do other than that huge 15rd mag.
I am super happy with the magwell coming with the gun! I immediately took it off to put it on my old full size XDM OSP.
ITS NOT USELESS 😂
First thing I did to my XDM Elite 10mm and 45acp models. Makes a world of difference....especially if you want to use the extended magazines.
Thats very helpful I was wondering how the different configurations would work
Thank you so much for watching!!
Just went and bought myself one last week. Extended mags came in yesterday so i figured i should watch to take the mag well off properly. My ring finger doesnt even touch the gun without the extended mag. Was looking for one that was stock w 15 rd mag but S&W had to long of a grip for any kind of concealment. I got a dragonfly red dot for mine. It def looks 1000x better with the extended mag. Never owned a springfield prior to this gun. Got mostly S&W pistols and a fn 5.7. If i didnt already own the fn id go get the ruger 5.7 for sure.
Great Video !! Please update after shooting as I'm very curious to know if you experience pinching of your hand between the extended mag and grip
Will do!! Funny you say that - I have an extended mag on my HK45 and while it doesn’t “pinch” I do sense a slight bit of movement that bugs me. Does not impact performance of gun what so ever but just something unexpected I have noticed.
AND THANK YOU for watching
@What saith the scripture? have not experienced pinching of any kind. no slide bite of any kind. no movement/pinching w/ extended mag. so far very happy with it.
I just got Pearce Grip extensions for mine. They work great
Totally looking those up now. Thanks for the info and THANKS for watching!!!!
Great video. I just got mine.
I hope you like it! Have had fun so far. Expensive (ammo) fun but fun none the less. THANK YOU for watching!!
Wow just took this gun to the range wow 👌 👏 wow so much power 👏
I know, right?? crazy power!! all i've been able to shoot so far it paper - need clay targets or something to really see how strong this thing is!! THANK YOU FOR WATCHING!!!
What's up w the mags having to be slammed? Glock 26 and 30.....have to grip w pinkie under mag....
Does anyone know what size grips are compatible for this? I can not find grips specific to this model. Thanks
Do the sell the magazine extension/sleeve individually or do I have to drop 60 bucks for the mag too. I already have 15rd magazines is the reason I’m asking. Thanks.
I just checked their website and right now it looks like you gotta buy the whole magazine - about $48. ):
Thank you so much for watching!!!!
The second pin that’s holding the magwell in from the bottom does not go back in once you remove the magwell? Correct? Does not say in magwell
How did the 15rd extended magazine end up concealing? I just ordered this pistol and am curious. Just waiting to actually get it before ordering the extended magazine as I don't know which backstrap I will like. Thanks.
15 Magazine looks great and like it would feel good too
changing out to the flat base reduces the magazine down from 10 rds to 9 rds.
The reason your flat base mag is not ejecting off the grip easy is because you didn't remove the black metal plate that comes with the extended mags.
Does anyone know where I can get a magwell and base plate grips that perfectly fit just like the 3rd magazine in this video with the “xd” print on it. I have a Xdm Elite 4.5 Osp 10mm. I am trying to find a grip and magwell that fits perfectly to the gun and magazine !
I got the gun 2 months ago but I didn't like the the size. I went out and got the 15 round magazine talon grips. I also put a 507 holson on it as well.
I’m still not in love w the grip. Love the trigger. Sights and other features - but man that grip…..
Thank you for watching!!!
@The Arkansas Gun Guy I got some talon grips pro and it fixed the problem for me.
Excellent video! ..Thanks
What size are your hands? I bought this gun for anti-bear repellent in early deer season. My Pinky can't even semi-hug around any of the mags in the flared magwell situation. In ordering the extended mag because if I can't garb the gun properly I don't want to shoot ut.
Does this firearm come with the flat mag plate to run 10rnd mags too?
it did come with flat plate. thank you for watching!!!
lovin mine ! 100 thru it , shoots great
have to wait till after Xmas for the dot ...
Which dot did you go with (assuming Santa brings what you asked for!!)?
@@TheArkansasGunGuy prolly a romeo , have one on a masada I'm real happy with
@@796andy2 I have a Romeo1 Pro on a P320 that is excellent. Also have a DeltaPoint Pro on my Masada that I like but I think I slightly favor the Romeo.
@@TheArkansasGunGuy masada's got to be the smoothest shooting gun i have ...
@@796andy2 love my Masada too. I’ll tell ya - the big brother Jericho is even smoother!!! The smoothest thing I’ve shot!!
Can the slightly bigger base plate go on the 15 rd mag?
I plan to buy a Springfield 10mm XD-M Elite with the 15 round extended mag. What's the difference between backstrap 1, 2, & 3?
If memory serves 1/2/3 are just small/med/large. I’ll get the box out soon and double check that. THANK YOU for watching!! And YES - DEFEND our police!
Where can I find the grip that fits evenly with the Magwell
Why didn't you put the pin in the back strap with out the mag well the 15 round mags and 10 fit the extension on the 15 round the rubber covers and extends the grip
What holster do you prefer? Just got my xdm and looking for suggestions
The QVO holster that I bought when the series launched is a good choice. On most of my other guns though I really like Hidden Hybrid Holsters. Incredibly comfortable. Good retention.
Thanks for watching my channel!!
Looks like it wasn't thought out real well. These are imported from a manufacturer in Croatia so Springfield maybe didn't have much input on it. Ive been researching the XD pretty hard and I need to handle one before anything but the mag issue may be a hard pop ass.
That’s the only thing I don’t love about it. If grip were just a tad bit longer. Gun still shoots real nice…just needs a smidge more on the grip
AND THANKS SO MUCH FOR WATCHING!!
so if i take off the magwell and put the 14 round magazine in there i will have room for my pinky sounds great. so you're saying it's better to buy the compact instead of buying the full size gun because i wanted both of them but you're saying it doesn't make sense to do both of them right
Probably not to buy both. I wound up selling the Compact about a year after this video. Just couldn’t get used to the grip. If I had it to do over I would probably go with a full size! Thanks so much for watching!!
@@TheArkansasGunGuyi love the full size with the 4.5 barrel
What holster do you have for your xd elite 3.8 10mm? I can't seem to find one
I had a QVO holster they were promoting heavily when gun first launched. Had exclusive print lane. Works really well. Here is a video I did on it back in the day…OH - THANKS FOR WATCHING!!!
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Doing this with live rounds in the mag ?
Noticed that right away: makes a big difference, safety-wise, doesn't it? As long as he remembers not to rack the slide with ANY magazine in place (well, when he finally manages to get them to seat fully?) and NEVER actually pulls the trigger, he most likely won't shoot himself...? Very sad.
I believe when you switched to the flat bottom option on the 10 round mag that you did not do it correctly. It looks as if you put the metal plate inside which I believe only works with the extension for the flared mag well. I had trouble at first when I switched mine as the instructions wasn't very clear on that until I figured it out. You will notice that the base plates are made different and that the spring actually catches on the flat base plate to hold it on as where the other uses the metal plate to catch and hold and allow for 1 more round. I think that's also why the flat bottom caught and wasn't flat when you had it in your gun. Hope that helps.
AWESOME call out. That makes total sense. Good catch.
THANK YOU for watching!!
Anyone having trouble with the mag ejecting with the flat base plate?
@@truthtalker7774 I have not tried to shoot it with the flat plate. Next time I get a chance to shoot I’ll see if I can (remember to) switch one out and try.
@@truthtalker7774 no, not yet. You didn't put the flat base plate attached to the bottom of the spring into the flat base plate, did you? I believe it is only used for the extension which goes with the flared mag well. If you did, it will catch in the pistol and not let the mag release correctly.
I noticed the same, I removed the part to get mine magazine with the flat bottom and as you said the metal part does not belong there. From my point of view it looks great and also is compatible with the 15 round magazine. The only downside of using the flat bottom magazine is that you lost one round, but I'm ok with that. It's less bulky and easier to conceal, and if you want more round you just change to the 15 round magazine and you are good to go.
I removed the magwell. My hands are bigger than yours, no way my pinky was going to fit. I was going to remove it for the 15Rd extended anyway. Love the 3.8" 10mm tho.
Ya - that grip was just too short. Great gun though!! I use grip #3 (the largest one), is that the one you use? THANK YOU FOR WATCHING!!
If Springfield would offer the 10mm XDM Elite in a 4.5" barrel like they do with their 9mm XDM Elite the grip would be slightly longer and allow more room for larger hands.
It would help with some recoil this gun pops! Full size would be idea.
They do sell full size 10mms with 4.5 and 5in barrels. They have the 15 round mag grip. This is their edc 10mm so it's going to be as small as a 10mm can get. I'm sure you can put a longer barrel in the compact for better velocity not sure if it'll help recoil
@@snoopywl8880 , You are correct. They do make a 10mm in 4.5" barrel, but in the XDM model, not in the 'XDM Elite' model. At this time they only have 10mm in the 3.8" barrel and 5.25" barrel in the XDM Elite. The 4.5" Elite is currently 9mm. I hope that changes and they start making it in 10mm.
fyi there is an xdm elite osp in 10mm with a 4.5" barrel out now...
@@wickedgarden9257 Yes, I saw a couple of weeks ago that Springfield had released the 4.5" 10mm in the Elite model. Very happy that they did. It's great to have choices !
Just bought the 15 number two. Better accuracy better grip all around
What is the point of a mag well, anyway?
Everyone I know that owns that weapon has transition to the extended magazine the 15 round one it just makes sense the gun feels better in your hand it's much more controllable
What size punch does this require?
With The extended hand grip (idk what it's called) that came with the 15 rounder can you take that off and put it on other mags ?
Great question - I’m actually not sure. Will dig it out of the safe and take another look!
@@TheArkansasGunGuy I did some research and you can or at least the guy I seen did
@@TheArkansasGunGuy I appreciate it
Do the 15 round mag insert and fit with the magwell attached?
I wish I could validate for you but I actually sold the gun last year. I think it fits with it can’t say for sure. Appreciate you tuning in and sorry I could not 100% answer.
Nice video, let me know how she runs
So I have the 45 xdm elite 3.8 and the only issue and I have small hands is that my pinky falls off,so I bought the pierce grip plus one pinky extension, my mags or 10 rounders I didn't need a extra round ,just the extension, I put the pierce together and the dam mag would not lock into the reciever, so I emailed pierce and shot them some pics and they said I had ro remove thr mag flar in order to get it to fit ,duh,that stupid flar ,I have no idea why they put it on their at all its ugly and gets in the way of your pinky rapping around ,I could not find any videos of install of pierce grip on the xdm elite 45 3.8, then I watched your video and boom that mag flar came up again ,great video I'm following suite as well,
I been trying for hours and cant get the magwell off i bought it used and it doesnt have the pin in the back so the big one refuses to come out even with the back pin missing
That’s no bueno! Did it ever come out? I actually sold my gun or I would grab it and take a look. Thanks so much for watching!
@@TheArkansasGunGuy nvm i got it i didn’t realize the pin was see throug
This is a nice looking gun i want one with red dot
Did you order the extended mag through Springfield directly?
Yes - ordered directly from Springfield. When I registered the weapon they sent a (one time)discount code. Got the extended mag and kydex holster they were promoting with launch (no longer on site last time I looked)
I would just get the 15rd mag extension fits right up against it flush it's very nice and comfortable instead of the flared magwell the last 1 you put on I'd just order 4or5 of the 15round mag extension thats the ticket
when u put the flush base plate on the bottom of the mag u have to take off the black metal mag extension plate off the spring..
I shot this without the magwell using standard magazines, immediately formed a blood blister on my pinky from being pinched between the mag and the grip. After a couple mags the blood blister popped and got blood all over my hand and the pistol.
I carry a g40 and it's a beast. I want a smaller 10. I love and also carry a xdm in 45 acp. The ergonomics and reliability is par none.but I'm not sure about this gun or a Glock. Decisions, decisions
great gun this is must have
How and Why does your magwell come out so easily? I heard someone on a forum say that they even broke the plastic pin trying to get the magwell off. I bought a 15 round clip and they say you must remove the magwell but I tried and does not come off. I'm scared of breaking it like the guy in the forums. There has to be more to it than just push and pull away. There must be a pin or something that needs to be pressed or done to remove the magwell
No pin required to remove. It’s been so long since I removed (and don’t want to put back on!!) that I can’t remember the exact process. I do remember it wasn’t easy or straight forward but it did eventually pop right out with minimal force. Sorry I don’t remember rexactky the details - but do know for sure no pin to remove. THANK YOU so much for watching!!
@@TheArkansasGunGuy I got it now. Yes there is a pin on the side. That has to be punched out according to the manual instructions that I downloaded from Springfield. Thank God, I was scared of breaking it. The guy that broke his on that forum said that Springfield told him that because the guns were made in Croatia they did not have the spare parts he needed. But I got it out thank God with the plastic pin in tact. I wish I could send you a photo so that you can see that pin and where it is located. The punch out pin or roll out pin is located and hiding in the grooves of the backstrap lower left and right hand corners of it. Once I punched out that pin both the back strap and the magwell came out with super simple ease. I got the 15 round clip with the extention and that is REALLY the only reason that I had to take off the magwell. I love that magwell, but CANNOT use the 15 round clip with the magwell. Springfield should have thought of something better to do than that. But it does a really nice flush fit when you put in that 15 round clip in the gun. Feels bigger, but hey 15 plus 1 rounds of 10mm. I'm not gonna complain lol. Thanks for the heads up. Good video by the way! I subscribed by the way too.
@@rickycastro3210 DUH - my bad - sorry sir!!! TOTALLY forgot about that. (it happens when you get old!). I'm glad you got it out. I just didn't love that flared bit at all. Have enjoyed the gun - hope you do do AND THANK YOU AGAIN!!!!
Anyone have good owb holsters to recommend for this pistol??
I'm just not big on Polymer Grips.. Talons would have to be added for me..
Its a compact . They have the larger 10mm . So if you want more rounds or a bigger grip then get the full size . Otherwise a compact is exactly that a compact .
Good, thx
What holster did you get?
It was a QVO index holster they (Springfield) promoted heavily when gun first launched. It's really good. No longer listed on their site, but QVO (Quick, Violent, Over) has a website with lots of cool options.
THANK YOU for watching!
Damn dude, you're all thumbs with those mags. 😂
and after history clas that took 5 minutes finally to the point
I bought the Pearce Grip XD/XDM 45 ACP Extension Adds 0 part # RSR_PGXD45, from XDGUNParts and it fit my 10 mm XDM Elite 3.8 with no issues. Just remove the black base plate. I didnt like the one specifically made for the 10mm that adds a round. Trust me the XD 45 ACP one works fine😊
Just got mine ,goodbye maxwell 👋
Cann one keep the flared magazine well and still have a 15 round magazine. ? Thanks
I've since sold this gun, ,but if memory serves you can still keep the mag well with 15 rounder it just sticks our more and looks a little strange... I THINK that's the case - again, sorry I can't confirm - I traded it for an X-Ten. THANK YOU for watching!!
I noticed that when you were loading the gun you were having problems! What was upon with that? and has anyone else had issues loading? I saw another video talking about this as being an issue with this gun.
Just put one in gun jail (layaway).... Now have to get the m&p 2.0 10mm then wait for the 320 10mm come on sig
I would carry it with the 11rd in the gun. And 2 15rd on my side that's how i carry my 365 and others
that makes TOTAL SENSE - 100% doing that. Also curious about the SW coming out....and YES - COME ON SIG!!!
If anyone is wondering, even with medium size hands, the compact with magwell grip is too short. Croatians must have tiny little hands.
right?!?!? crazy how that grip is just...off..... only knock i'v consistantly heard on the weapon. THANKS for watching!!!
M&P 2.0 10mm,gotcha
Just add the Pearce pinky extension
I think I’ll get this for my wife
I can’t believe he made a UA-cam video using a clip with ammunition in it. No no no no.
Pruning sheers, problem solved. 👍
Pierce Grip Extenders…you’re welcome.
Thanks for the info and THANKS for watching!!
Bought them as well and not bad. My hands are the XL -XXL range and I can sqeeze in there with the Pearce grip (.45acp)
Why is he constantly shoving the magazines in
Because he doesn't knoq any better...?
I like your video but I was able to figure out how to get the mag well off with no torque applied to the parts. It inspired me to make my first video for UA-cam. If you want to email me, I can send you the video, since finding it may be difficult until it's approved.
I am tired of cleaning up the bodies with red dot guns on there side never had a chance to Evan draw there gun
Elaborate 🤔🤔
@@gemneyetwin6248 most of the robberies /deaths are people with red dots i just to notice it a few years ago they are relaying a red dot to save there life I understand that most will never encounter a bad guy have never lived in the hood sir when you encounter a bad guy that g8n must in your hand you do not have to aim that weapon the media is not talking about it because of tb3 gun companies
Sounds like the robbers need to practice and sight in there red dots lol
Only UA-cam idiot's use red dots
@@johnsmithjr.1731you just need to learn to shoot with irons
The s/w is a far better choice if you just have a compact 10mm that 3in barrel is scary