Trying to explain every variant of Terminator armour | 40k lore
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We need more lore on Tyberos the Red Wake, dude is a absolute legend and his chapter of space sharks are one hundred percent underrated.
Beefiest of dudes who probably can only count to 4
Yes
Yes this one.
And he is only a normal marine right? Imagine this mf, bigger than primaris, gets the primaris surgery and becomes the bulkier bulkiest. This big bad bitch would probably have to be modified with leviathan siege dreadnought armor. Would be fuckin rad though imagine him just tanking artillery and shredding through probably even light vehicles. Hope it happens soon.
@Black Sabbath almost as big as a primarch. Definitely bigger than a custodes
I like the idea of Asartes just so chonkie they couldn't fit them in regular power armor
I imagine like a Khornate Berserker going up to hit him and his weapon just bouncing off, and then for a brief moment the rage disappears and the Berserker has a moment of clarity like "I'm about to get stomped" immediately followed by the most crushing blow from a power fist ever
Chainfists actually, with lighting claws mounted on top the gauntlets to use if he chooses
A heavy distorted grunt of a laugh comes from the Marines vox as he smashes
"Damn, he's really aboutta rock my shit"
this has happened . at least twice.
@@captainash1297no, tyberos only whispers, tyberos does not laugh.
Honestly I’m a sucker for Indomitus pattern. It’s just too iconic.
I love that heavy rebreather helmet so much.
I'm more into Cataphractii
@@user-qd8yw2ts9iI don’t like the tassels, but the knightly look is awesome.
Entirely out of place in 40k though. Definitely better placed in 30k
But it’s in 40k on some chaos units. Death guard terminators have some of it, not sure if any else tbf
@@joesheridan9451 death guard and black legion for sure have it. I’m not sure about the others though. Those few world eaters that used it stuck with Cataphractii, probably because there was minimal plating on the upper arms beneath the pauldrons to allow for greater flexibility in melee.
I wouldn’t even be surprised if custodes terminator armor was indeed for fighting C’tan on their home turf
What I don’t get is why they need armor. Custodes will just keep staring at you with the one eye remaining when you blow half their head and brains out. I get that they look elegant and royal with the golden armor but imagine how terrifying it would be if they went TTS on them and there was just a man in nothing but a loin cloth kicking the shit out of your entire army, that’s like, fear tactics rivaling titans and night lords…
@@blacksabbath5300 eh the main problem is that they are still technically human they don’t have any enhancements that increase their toughness so even if they can survive getting their head blown off they would most likely get crippled by a landmine before that happens
@@fernadogonzalez2940 for one I doubt a custodes is dumb enough to get screwed by a mine and for two uh we’ve seen plenty of times space marines shrugging off things that would tear apart humans with very little if any damage so do you think a custodes is really as prone to damage as a human? Just their sheer size and muscle mass would increase durability. I don’t give a shit if you have a heavy ass sword or not very few humans would ever be able hurt a custodes at all. Like, try to stab them and watch that shit bounce off.
@@blacksabbath5300i think other guy meant that the way astartes and custodes are built are way different. While the astartes gain its power from implants, the custodes gain its power from the way they were created
I will admit despite how goofy they look I would love the Nocturne pattern terminator armor to pop up again in modern 40k, especially since it gives the sallies some more love
Definitely can’t have that at GW
Salamanders canonically have an excess of terminator armour left over from the Heresy, it’s really disappointing that they don’t have any special terminator units
@@MLiskindagayit’s the same with Dark Angels. They have an excess of TDA and plasma they share with their successors, since pretty much all of the Unforgiven have 1st companies made entirely of Terminators
Ceramite is ceramic and titanium composite on top of another layer which is probably some grade of metal on top of a frame that is the exo-skeletal power armour. Kinda like a tank.
This is all pretty realistic compared to most sci-fi unobtanium and 'ceramite' exists in real life though doesn't have the same properties. The reason marine armour looks like it's metal is because artists, like me, tend not to be savvy to materials or production and scratches on metal look cooler than cracked and crumbling plates.
It's not hard to make a soldier bullet proof, you just cover him in thick metal plates. The problem is that they can't carry it, but Space Marines can, even when it's not powered.
On this level 40k isn't 'overpowered', as mentioned it's written to make sense or be internally consistent to where suspension of disbelief isn't stretched. Even warp magic is structured to be volatile, come at a high cost and not just a cheap plot device or deus ex machina (at least not all the time).
A "vs 40k" that would easily stomp out most things is a Warframe.
The premise that it's a 3D printed remote controlled hyper-human alone, is far beyond the base level of 40k. Say marines manage to take out one, you haven't killed the user, he's sitting in a stealthed ship ready to send down not just another one, but one better suited to fight against what he just experienced.
That's before mentioning that they have magical powers that range from breaking gravity, stopping time and opening wormholes to the surface of the sun, not to mention biological weapons, invisibility, teleportation, adaptive metal skin and many, many other abilities.
But Warframe isn't cooler than 40k.
Saturnine/egg terminators are my favourite.
Never would have thought of war frame as a good counter but you make a solid ass point
One important note for the Gorgon pattern Terminator Armor is that it was the prototype that later became Indomitus armor. Specifically, an early prototype made by Ferrus Manus, the Primarch of the Iron Hands, which wasn't completed and was unable to be removed once donned. Once it's on, thats it. Most Iton Hands wouldnt mind, but that had to be rectified whenever Indomitus plate was finalized
Most of the lost speed is due to reduced coordination, so an Astartes skilled enough in using terminator armor will have little to no decrease in mobility compared to if they were wearing standard power armor. That level of skill is vanishingly rare however.
I would just… explode. In the pleasurable way. If tyberos got the primaris conversion surgery to become even chunkier, fuck it, that one thunder warrior tried to become a space marine hybrid to combat the flaws and make a powerful mix, make him a massive primaris thunder warrior war beast and put him in leviathan siege dreadnought modified cataphractii armor (he would have the skill to use it) and just make a book dedicated to the slaughter this man puts on. Genuinely the closest a space marine will get to beating a demon primarch. Khorne would also likely be throbbing over this.
@@blacksabbath5300 Kaldor Draigo did a number on Mortarion. Power scaling in 40k is weird.
@@emzetkin1100 well for one, gray knight. For two, plot armor.
Tyberos isn't the first Astartes to literally be too big for his boots, Abaddon also had to have a custom suit of terminator plate made since he was as big as pre-Warp juice Horus.
I love all terminator patterns but the cataphractii is the pattern I like the most, I play dg and I love being a big immovable object impervious to damage, also it has cute drape thingies under the shoulder plates
Always found it weird how that one in particular is called catapractii
Those drape thingies are tassels. It gives them a cool graeco-roman gladiator aesthetic that fits right in with the legion shtick of 30k.
@averageeughenjoyer6429 It's a reference to cataphracts that were fielded by Persians and Byzantines. They were pretty much the tanks of ancient and medieval warfare, so I think it fits.
Dude Grey Knights (besides the baby carrier) get the coolest looking things in almost every scenario
We don't tolerate baby carrier slander in this house
Yes.
In lore, the Custodes have fought on a space hulk orbiting a neutron star, and they had to fight off a Xenos species that had infected a space hulk. They used terminator armor in order to repell the heat from the star, which was close enough to its orbit, that by the end of the book, when they got the mcguffin , the space hulk fell into the star.
No, I am not sourcing it for you. Have fun finding which book this was in.
could you say that the Red Butchers from the world eaters had their own type as it was just a hodgepodge of recovered wargear? It was able to freeze in place if one of them decided to be so kind to turn his fellow planet muncher into a smoothie or is it too similar to cataphractii?
unfortunately the Red Butchers had modified Cataphractii armour that added piecemeal bits from other armours too it.
Still a really cool terminator armour though
Twin Chainfists tho
@@TheBoneZone40kI'm kinda sad that you didn't mention the Aquilon and Allarus patterns, but a great video overall! (We are waiting for the dreadnoughts)
@@mirromarnicco3162 i dont think he added them since they are for the Custodes but still. Agreed!
Talking about the saturnine, we can see it in motion in the cancelled "death of hope" short
Where in whits part or just tell me
@@jankokovac1229 ua-cam.com/video/f5DDLqrJCr4/v-deo.html
Real shame 😢
mark the guy who was making death of hope said it's exo armour which is 1st pattern terminator armour if im remembering it right he showed in one of the model vid's he did
Oh Christ it’s the Majorkill “Tyberos is wearing a dreadnought” myth again
Ikr, what a load of bollocks
It sounds cool as shit, therefor it's cannon now.
Despite the fact, Terminator armor is literally called "tactical dreadnought armor" and Tartaros and Cataphractii look a lot like Contemptor Dreadnoughts.
Saw someone in this comment section claiming Tyberos was bigger than a primarch, this myth is getting out of hand.
@@intergalacticimperialist9670He's canonically thirty foot tall
Tyberos wears dreadnought armor, as in Tactical Dreadnought Armor, aka terminator armor, the topic of this video. You can tell because he is depicted in his official model in what is clearly a custom suit of terminator armor bearing no resemblance to a dreadnought.
My favorite has to be Indomitus. That rebreather helmet is just too damn cool. I wish there was a loyalist version of it that still made use of the reaper pattern double barreled autocannon.
We are iron hands brother we can do a few modifications and slap a reaper autocannons and not be accused of tech heresy
@@felipestriker187 I mean, we used them during the Crusade! Everyone did! Why should we just throw away a perfectly good weapon?
@@felipestriker187 sure the typical assault cannon can spit out more shots, but they’re smaller, nor can they match the precision of a long-barreled autocannon
@@venerablebrothergoriate5844 Wise words ancient one, it is always good to talk with you brother
@@venerablebrothergoriate5844 There's maybe a few stored as relics
Im very new to 40k but ive already found my heart belongs to the mechanicus and the iron hands so seeing iron hands having armor thats so intense they need to be mostly machine is metal af and makes me love the iron hands even more
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I like how the chaos terminators look with tusks coming out of the helmets.
I own 10 Cataphractii that I use on the tabletop for Night Lords as normal chaos Terminators. The sheer volume of fire from their combi-bolters and durability has allowed them to chew through almost anything I throw them against. Really they've solved most problems too durable and/or lethal to throw something else at and they've just been doing incredible since.
Curious to know what your source is for the lore origins of Terminator armour. The full name is Tactical Dreadnought Armour, and it was originally developed for someone to work within an active plasma reactor and similar extreme/lethal hazards. Terminator armour was introduced during The Great Crusade to reduce losses, but to was too expensive to mass produce. The redesigned Indomitius pattern was also rolled out later into The Great Crusade alongside new weapons like the Assault Cannon and combi-bolters (and maybe Storm Bolters, I can't remember). That wepon upgrade was one of the biggest differences between the patterns as the Calaphractii used twin-bolters and Reaper Autocannons. The Caoaphractii also had shield generators build into the shoulder pads. The Indomitius also had a 'shield', but it was the result of having a shard of the Emperor's armour in the Crux Terminatus on the left shoulder pad
The Indomitus pattern was put into service after the Heresy - the mainstay armour of all Legions were the Cataphractii and Tartaros patterns.
I’m 90% sure the bit about Tyberos wearing modified Dreadnought plate is a popular misconception. It’s custom terminator armor for sure, but it doesn’t have parts of a dreadnought on it.
ok i wanted to ask about the custodes terminator armors and you got me hard with your outro haha!!!!
i love they way you describe the incoherent powerscaling in the 40 verse!!!
had a lot of discussions about that in my playgroup. keep going go got my sub!
All hail the egg Marine! Seriously though Saturnine Armor has a special place in my heart, I have seriously consider buying one of their models.
Great video. Indomitus is the pattern I love and always will as it is just so iconic. But I do like Tartaros armour too, it's just a bit too small next to the new beakies now so they'll have to re-scale them eventually.
Keep in mind Saturnine pattern armor is a post-hok explanation of an early GW model that was just called "space marine in terminator armor" it was really just the first wack at depicting terminator armor at all.
I’m quite partial to Cataphractii plate. It just looks good.
I do love the chunky-ness
"Almost impossible to kill" tell that to the Ultramarines who lost half their first company on Oghram to the nids.
I’ve been in love with Dark Angels since my older brother showed me his copy of Angels of Death codex back in the day. That and with Cataphractii armour being my favorite the Inner Circle Knights Cenobium terminators are the coolest to me. They’re just walking Astartes sized castles
Arkonak armor is probably just Indomitus redesigned to look similar to Tartaros armor, but distinctly different enough that Asterion can be picked out easily enough in a crowd. Maybe lacking the crest and wings on the pauldrons etc., but keeping the sculpted 'muscles' to align with their Greek feel.
What I find crazy is that it’s so heavy that it slows the hulking meat puppets in side it down
I may be wrong but I think you had a misunderstanding of Tyberos the red wake. All terminator armor is known as tactical dreadnought armour. Tyberos just has his terminator armor modified to fit his size.
man, your video is strangely entertaining and interesting, your voice is mesmerizing af, thanks
"Alright i failed " really made me laugh
Just found this channel, love it.
I remember in the first Horus heresy book when they first discribed terrmantor armor they discribed as it just an unrelenting force of death and no weapons of the rebels in the mountains fort could not even flinch them and they where an unstoppable force of the emperor’s wrath
New to 40k and Just built my first Terminator from my first Terminator Assault Squad. Already love terminators.
Man the entire video i was like "when's he gonna talk about the custodes terminator pattern & how it's made from auramite..." then the ending, the ending got a good giggle.
I like big armor man
Ty for talking about space sharks even just for a little bit
When the allarus or even aquilon pattern comes out you know shits about to go down since if the custodes are wearing terminator armor you know you off to fight all the demon primarchs at once.
funfact the tartaros was meant to rollout as the standard armour for all marines according to some sources but the whole horus thing put paid to that idea.
I like that one Terminator Armor that is used by the Chapter Master of the Blood Ravens, Gabriel Angelos, with which he can do somersaults :)
Personally I love the huge bulky ones from the early lore
To me they are the ones that actually embody the name "tactical dreadnought armor"
Huge, bulky, imposing and impenetrable, they look like battleships with legs
That shot of the terminator from Soul Hunter combined with the intro made me realise you sound like Septimus from the Night Lords Omnibus, just less slavic
Iirc ceramite inthe lore is a futuristic light weight ceramic (light being relative of course). But its super special sauce is that it is made with small amounts of Adamantium laced into it.
Ok so about the mk1-3 thing. Those do not exist in the lore and they were just prototype miniatures for terminator armor before they decided on Indomitus in the late 80s. The saturnine mini is not saturnine as it’s only mentioned once and we don’t know what it looks like and that egg shaped fucker just got used as a design for 20 suits of terminator armor crafted by Vulkan and they were all destroyed at Istvaan. There is no mk1 and the first terminator armor is cataphractii.
Tyberos out here being the biggest astartes in existence and yet his voice is just a whisper
I think a lot of people overlook how thick the Indomitus helmet and pauldrons are. The Tartaros has better mobility, the Cata has better shields, but the Indomitus has the thickest helmet and pauldrons.
And they got arm cables that can link reactors to things in the hands, allowing the use of the most powerful combo, the Stormshield and Thunderhammer. It also has the waist shields that mark 10 took on later.
Tyberos's armour looks like Indomitus with Tartaros legs. Gabriel Angelos has a Tartaros Catapractii shoulders and Indomitus chestplate.
Tartaros pattern is my favorite as the thought of a nigh impervious giant running at me *FAST* is scary lmao
I love indomitus pattern solely because its SO 40k, but in terms of aesthetics and personal preference Tartaros is my favorite. Holy shit you've got me interested in that Minotaur pattern armor now, though! It hurts that we'll never know what it is
I'm a fan of the indomitus plate just for the utility it has but the Salamander fire drakes have a special place in my army lists because it's always cooler when everything is on fire.
I wish I could like your videos more than once.
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I fricking love The hazard stripe gauntlet!
Its a massive troll, taking The piss on your enemies.
Yeah, that power fist sure is hazardous as it is plunged through someones chest cavity.
I really like your background music
Star Wars vs warhammer 40k by A fan with to much time. Is an amazing series I would recommend it
I love how you can hear in your voice that you know it’s absurd, and your acknowledging it 🤣
Material science and engineering student here, -ite is also used a lot to describe microstructural states of metals and metal alloys. Just looking at the Iron-Carbon (Steel) phase diagram you have Austenite and Cementite as single phases, with pearlite, spheroidite, bainite and martensite as double phase states. Ceramite is actually not an unrealistic name for an metallic/intermetallic-ceramic composite material (especially if you're going for a brand name for a proprietary material).
Ceramic armor is used today in personal bodyarmor in the form of plates. Modern incarnations use boron carbide, yeeoldie plates were made ol some aluminum oxide.
It is strong and very hard.
It can stop most handheld balistic weapons (your AK, M16, FN FAL, kar 98s, mosin nagants a lot of " sniper rifles" , not all of them
Negatives is that it can't reliably take multiple shots in the same general area because a (for example) 5.56mm NATO cartrige (m16 is chambered in it) projectile will compromise at least a 5 cm circle of armor around the impact.
Also they are quite bulky which makes making articulated joints difficult to imposible, so you can only armor a fiew bits and pieces like your ribcage.
Also its sensitive to being dropped on the edges
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It is a micro fusion reactor, it uses the fusion of hydrogen atoms to generate energy, it basically uses the water in the user's sweat to generate craptons of energy.
It is basically an "infinite energy cheat code", and that's why there are so much research on the subject in real life.
The funny thing about 40k power scaling is… it’s not so much that it’s “realistic” as it’s just… relatively more _committed_ to how this works. Is a Bolter that plausible? Maybe not exactly, but 40k is so committed to the logic behind it - there’s a kicking charge that fires a gyrojet the size of a shotgun round, the fuel is synthesized so that it only ignites once the round has left the barrel, it penetrates armor and explodes within.
Also, nowadays they’re not caseless anymore, but don’t think too hard about that.
It’s not that it’s “real,” it’s that it gives us that much more grasp of how powerful it is.
The second I heard you describe tyberos I’m like HOLY SHIT I NEED TO PLAY THIS GUY and then you said that mans name and I already got a model and I was happy af
This video would have been way funnier if you'd talked about the Space Marines like they were fashion models and reviewing their armor was a fashion show
The funny thing is, everyone talks about how incredibly powerful stuff in 40k is...but when you get down to it it's just a result of the writers being as big a bunch of nerds as the fans are and just...giving details, which is something a lot of other series don't do. So it feels like its more powerful than it actually is (and helps explain why Genestealers can peel a termie open in melee)
I think Halo and 40k end up sparing in VS situations alot because Halo has at least as much detail in its work as 40k does.
I still find it difficult to grasp that a tyranid claws can cut through a terminator armor.
Welcome to Space Hulk Brother
"oh its some custom made armor for salamanders."
just blink twice if its supposed to be saturnine and there was copyright issues for whatever reason.
I will never not see you as the little Terminaton at the begining of the video
Them future humans in that hole in the middle of the Milky Way be killing each other over a maintenance suit. Kidding aside the Cataphractii pattern looks cool and intimidating.
He hit us with the “hi, I’m Reggie” At the beginning
I want Tartaros to have more rep but atomantic generators being unfixable is a giant issue for sure.
For a little context, the Gorgon pattern terminator armor is said to be able to release a bright light of energy whenever it gets attacked, like reflecting the kinetic energy but in a bright flash of light, like a flash bang, hence the name Gorgon Terminator Armor. The downside is that the heat generated and power it uses to do such an ability is such a harm to normal Astartes you’ll need to undergo bionic surgery and such to handle it better as he stated. Also not only Cataphractii is bulkier, but it has built in shield generators under those large pauldrons that give it its extra durability.
The Gorgon replaces the standard energy field generators on the other terminator patterns with a conversion field, specifically one that converts the energy of attacks to a blinding flash.
@@SeanCrosser there we go, thank you.
“So how many variants of terminator armor are the-“
“A LOT. There are a lot. That’s it.”
Cool video, but I am an incredible pedantic person with to much free time, so im am going to tell you a copple of things abouts the whole tartarus/cata/indomitus variant. So, at the time of the great crusade the imperium start working on a great amount of projects, several of these were the tactical Dreadnought armour. The objective was very simple, take a dreadnought exoskeleton and make it small and portable; it happened and the imperium made the monstruosity called Cataphractii, basically that shit not only was incredibly heavy but in each spauldron there were one conversion filed generator. So these fucker were basically walking tank armed with a power fist, an inhuman ammount of strenght (because these suit had even more synthtic muscle) and a good variety of heavy weapon: heavy flamer (for war crimes) reaper autocannon (2 autocannon slapped togheter) and plasmablaster (meaner and faster plasmagun).
Now, i want to hammer this fact down, Cata armor, for all intentions and purposes, was perfect and more than usable in the scope of its original functions, but some legions and some Magi didn't like it. So at the end of the great crusade after years of development a new armour made his way, the tartaros.
Now, you may ask, if the Cata terminator was so good why develep a new type? Well, because some legion wanted at all cost use terminator armour in any situation (even if you shouldn't really use it) for example the night lords, salamander or emperor's children. There was a demand so they made a new type of armour, istead of making a "walking tank with force field" they made a "power armor under steroids", The tartaros variant have the same ease of movement of a normal power armor paired with extra protection and a coversion field, basically it was like an Arteficer armour with extra shit (in a good way).
If the Cata was made to walk in narrow corridor and say "fuck you" to enemy defesive position the tartaros was made for fast, heavy hitting attack form the flank and then move on.
The indomitus armour, in comparison, in absolutly shit, it posses the same defensive capabilities of the tartaros, but it is slow like the Cata. The only good thing about it, is that should have been more simple and easy to produce but then Big E die, Mechanicum became Mechanicus and 10k yeras later indomitus is a fucking irreplaceble relic. The only good thing about the indomitus is that (because its a fucking prototype) has more weapon configuration.
Last thing: weapon configuration, basically, terminator armours are an exoskleteon and not all weapons are compatible with the Machine Spirit of the suit or the wielder's finger or can't even do a simple motions of reloading (tecnicaly exist autoloader but its fine) or swinging or raising a shield
no love for Maximmion Voss, an imperial fist who was ordered by his deathwatch captain to stop gaining mass because they couldn't retrofit his powered armour?
Perhaps it was a kind of unconscious compensation, but Voss had become prone to voluntary sessions of extreme physical training. His muscles swelled beyond their already significant gene-boosted mass. His armour had to be adjusted by the Chapter’s tech-servitors. Then it had to be adjusted again, and again. Finally, he had been told - no, commanded! - to grow no thicker. His strength and power had outstripped those around him, but concerns had arisen about his mobility in the field. So far, these had not been borne out. But nevertheless, with some reluctance, Voss had acceded to the demands of his superiors. He grew no bigger and, from that moment, trained only to maintain what he had.
Looking forward to a Ravenguard video from you!
Deathshroud Cataphractii is beautiful
Vulcan must have been drunk when he designed that Saturn pattern looking power armour
Are you gonna talk about stuff like the centurion armour and character specific armour? Cause I’d love to see a video of that
I think you could have said some more stuff about Marks I-III because they were surviving relics from the Dark Age of Technology. All human technology in 40k is produced using STCs (basicly a 3d printer the Imperium doesnt have all parts to complete one, but the term also refers to STC-compatible blueprints) and every post-Old Night piece of technology is produced by a modified blueprint, uses parts from produced STC gear or modifies produced gear by hand.
Mark I in perticular was pre-Old Night and meant to be piloted by a normal man. Mark III was the first one to be modified to fit a Astartes inside. Something of note is that Mark I suits are still sometimes encountered in the wider galaxy and used by Imperial VIPs, so you can have a Rogue Trader with a bodyguard rocking one of those early Terminator plates that can be more durable than Marine variants but slower and physicly weaker. Couple RPG books also imply that production of human-piloted Terminator plate continued to some extent (Inqusitors are sometimes seen rocking human Terminator armour) but they are rare and sometimes include using parts of Marine Termies which propably is at least heavily frowned upon by any marine that sees a mortal with that kind of kit.
Their packs are running off of fusion cells that power everything. But you forgot to mention the black carapace it's really important for power armor to function.
Indomitus is still the goat. You cannot beat that classic helmet
Its also worth noting the Salamanders artifice and maintain their own armors and weapons. Its not a stretch to believe that they could produce their own unique variant
You see, Allarus terminator armor exists in order to make the nigh-unbeatable custodes actually unbeatable. It is not only tough enough to protect from the shockwaves of orbital bombardment, but flexible and fast enough that it barely hinders its wearer's movement at all.
Actually, some power armour is nuclear powered - the novel Rynn's World specifically says that there's an 'atomic hum' to the armour's power supply that most marines learn to ignore, and the Black Crusade RPG rulebook says that some armour has a 'miniature atomic pile'..
Imagine being a terminator, thinking you're big shit, and then a massive fuck off space shark just rips you in half.
Wolfguard Ranolf was about as big as you're describing Tyberos. You USED to be ableto field him as a special character even though the era the codex he's from is well beyond when he died. The Space Wolves keep his terminator armor in a reliquary (mostly because there's no space wolves alive big enough to wear it)
Back in second the armor save for termie armor unmodified was 3 on 2d6. I played necrons at the tail end of second (4 pages in a white dwarf codex) there was nothing to handle termies.
The Dark Angels variant of the Cataphractii Terminator is what sold me on the pattern. The knightly look is so damn cool.
Definitely the reason why I started an Iron Warriors army with basic ass Cat pattern terminators
Or why my dark angels successor Chapter has Indomitus pattern terminators. They pattern is so cool, with the hunched over frame and the space helmet rebreather system being completely eclipsed by the power pack extending over the head
The red wake had the best terminator armor
not wrong
I agree whole heartedly
If i remember correctly in the night lords series it took 5 astartes to beat one terminator and it might not have been them but the dreadnought they were trying to wake
Allarus Terminators are for when you want to 1v20 space marines
My only issue with Terminator armour is this; obviously it is a form of powered armour too. So it’s power supply must be similar to that of your “regular” marks of power armour. The issue is that it is said that moving within Terminator Armour is extremely difficult and cumbersome due to the added armour weight and I don’t believe it should be.
It is “only” a couple of hundred kilograms heavier than standard power armours, and it being powered also, it shouldn’t make a difference to user experience. It should easily still have the ease of use that you would expect from any other Astartes sets of armour.
Of course, even an Astartes without power armour is known to be EXTREMELY physically strong. So even without the power unit aiding in the movements, an Astartes just dead carrying all that weight should be no issue. I’m given to understand that all the world record lifts and greatest feats of strength we know of now, any given Astartes could perform reps upon reps, and sets upon sets of. So he could carry the weight of Terminator armour relatively well. Add in power assisted movement from the energy supply and Terminator armour should be exceptionally easy to use.
It was my understanding that most of the armor was mostly heavier ceramite-plasteel with an entire adamantium exoskeleton and was much heavier than power armor (like in the tons range). I mean when you get down to it, 40K is really bad with numbers and weight is all over the place depending on who you ask. Like I seen official material say even normal power armor is anywhere from around 500 kg to 2 tons. But construction wise, t makes sense that if power armor using a lightweight plastic as its base with harder plates here and there will just be lighter even if the terminator variant was the same thing but with that heavier metal comprising its entire exoskeleton.
On top of that, if your relying on a motor to drive the armor, then it would make sense that it might not be powerful enough to drive the whole thing. I guess the other thing is cumbersome isn't slow. Which is a weird thing I think people get wrong about terminator armor. It's never really stated that you can't sprint in that stuff. At least not Indomitus. So if a terminator puts his shoulder down and charges, he can hit the same top speed in theory, he just takes longer to get there and he's probably not stopping on a dime.
What gets me though is the sword fighting. Melee combat is like 80% foot work. Even if your just trying to put weight into a strike, your stance and foot work are doing more work than your arms are so how are they being a competent fighter when they are stated to be clumsy. Also why can they move their arms fast but can't turn fast? Very weird.
Almost impossible is a heavy stretch given that the blue boys lost a huge chunk of their first company on Oghram against tyranids. And the fact that they're ultramarines is important because they have the most plot armor from all the chapters
2:46 *Night Lords laughing in the distance*
I love the armors and weapons in the Warhammer universe is that they have the "Rough Industrial look" to them, they are not supposed to look or probably ergonomic, but they are strong and sturdy.
I recall the Terminator armor was originally made for Planetary mining but then was used for war
"Tyranids can ripped through Terminator armor but Tyberos on Terminator armor can ripped through Tyranids"
It's crazy how Golden Age Humanity was so powerful, that they used terminator armor for farm work and physical labor, something so menial
but 40k humanity, that armor is a holy relic and borderline the best they have
What sucks is that we really don't see much Contekar terminators really in the lore at all minus the stuff that Forge World puts out in their unit description.