Offroad is MILES better on the 450 because the foot pegs are so rear set on the 390 it tends to throw me over the bar . Whereas the 450 has higher bars standard footpegs which are so good for off-road sections.
"KTM is control-oriented, RE is comfort-oriented", "If you are looking for comfort, go for KTM" "RE is torque-oriented, KTM is power-oriented", "If you are looking to go fast, go for RE"
This guy doesn't know what he is saying in the joy of riding a motorcycle! Conclusion: There is no conclusion, go test ride both motorcycles and decide yourself which one is better for you 😂
I do not know about the Himalayan 450 but the older Himalayan 411's seat felt comfortable initially but on a long ride the seat flattened out and my bum used to touch the frame of the bike and it hurt like hell. My Duke 390 seat was damn stiff but no matter what distance it used to remain the same. stiffer seat for longer rides and softer seat for shorter rides. ADV 390 has tubeless tires and the Himlalayan old or new still do not have tubeless tyres in India atleast. That is a big bummer in my opinion.
Strell, What do you mean by RE is less reliable? It'll just stall in middle of the road or if it falls on track, the service center doesn't know what parts to replace? - Reliability in terms of what? service center or engine longevity and reliability. - RE is less reliable doesn't really explain what you mean to convey and vice versa for KTM
I don't get one part.. people are saying that it's a good tourer, but the most useful range.. 90-110 ... Is so buzzy! I took two test rides on different machines, same result. Also, on braking, our jewels keep hitting the tank due to how the tank is shaped. It's pretty uncomfortable because of these two reasons combined.
Bro , i sold my 411 to buy this bike and wanted a tubeless bersion of himi bjt then RE gave me a big shock of not releasing the tubeless version . Now i m waitjng waiting and not sire how oong this will go on . I lived the 411 over 3 hears but used to get puncture every 1000 km or so snd i was so much fed up of it . Then i used to get very tense whenever i need to travel to Mangalore and back to Bangalore. It even got to a point where i had to keep checking the tire pressure every 100 km and even if kt dopped bu 2 to 3 psi i jsed ro fill it and tjats when i thought to sell it and i did .
Ktm is a high compressed engine where as 450 it's squared engine which translates to more reliability of Himalayan. Vibrations its buzz on tank for me. I own h450
Is the vibrations deal breaker....i am planning to buy 450 but I have seen people saying it hot vibrations....can u plz tell me ur experience with 450 how reliable it is?
The previous Himalayan was shit but this time RE has improved a lot...I think this time the choice between these two bikes is only based on preferences, what do you need from the bike....both are capable bikes......go take a test ride and then see how you feel on that bike and then make your decision..... influencers give their own opinion. It can match your liking or not. Go take a test ride that's the holy grail of choosing a bike...
Hey.. I am a city user and may be i will go for long rides. Needs comfort and good bike.. is ktm 390 better or himmi 450.. I wanted to know about engine heating issues. Is it there is both the bikes or else inly in 450. Will it be a aproblem if i use it in city rides. Any suggestions to overcome that heat if i buy 450.. ???
I want to share a short experience that how Royal Enfield is improved a lot compared to other brands. I went to testride meteor 350 and a person attended me (already talked over the phone after booking test ride) I was surprised that the person gave me the keys of that bike directly and told me to do test ride as long as I want. This is the first time that I did test ride alone. (compared to competitor, where they first ask if planning to buy if not, they will reject the test ride) It is not about the bike but about the dealership that how they treat people. I will definitely recommend Royal Enfield to other people, my friends and relatives. Royal Enfield has now improved a lot from last few years, in engine design, in service, in sales and also in pre sales (test ride)
I feel like 2025 ktm adv will turn the tables in terms of off-roading but still love the new RE Himalayan 450 in-terms of touring coming from a Himmy 450 owner. In-terms of city, comparing to the upcoming KTM ADV 390, Himmy 450 maneuvers much better. If you want a true KTM ADV for offroad, wait until 2025.
I don't think KTM will launch it any sooner, but test motorcycles showed under belly exhaust 🫣 I am afraid they don't launch it that way and say it's an adventure motorcycle 😂
I know you asked him but I thought let me explain a little.... control oriented mean when you ride the bike it will do what you want it to do, it is well engineered with proper weight distribution and electronics to give you precise control on the bike..... comfort oriented means it is comfortable to ride but the bike will be little sluggish to take your inputs precisely..... However it is a minor difference and will affect mainly the pro riders...normal people will not feel that difference....I hope you understood...and sorry to pitch in if you don't want my explanation....happy riding 😊
Amazing content as always Strell bro!!! One more important aspect is that as of now the Himalayan comes only with tube tyres whereas the adventure comes with alloys in one of the variants. That’s a big point especially for tourers. Also, hopefully KTM will launch the facelift based on the new 399cc motor from the Duke 🤞🏻
The problem with RE is the service center/after sales. Of you've got a local reliable re mechanic then you're set. Otherwise, it will cause some headache. I'm speaking from my own experience.
@@iamstrell Thanks a lot man. Excellent vid, as always ! Is using the chin mount comfortable? Hoping it doesn't cause disorientation ? Would be great if you could make a video about your setup, and pros and cons of different moto vlogging setup types and how you capture the engine sound so nicely in your pure riding sound videos.
I am byk enthusiastic i have owned ktm 390 adventure and sold because of hell of vibration in lower rpm's and not reliable sold it where as i own royal Enfield Himalayan 450 vibration are not their with 4000rpm and then its vibrates at 100 to 120kph after that 130 it is buzz but we can enjoy comparing two royal Enfield Himalayan 450 is far most better machine than ktm 390 adventure
Sorry bro... I don't agree with you. I have sold my KTM 390 adventure because of reliability issue only within 2 years. Most of the time it stayed in the workshop. I could clock only 7000kms. And I also can confirm that vibration is lesser in himalayan than a KTM 390. Currently I am using RE 650s gt interceptor and super meteor which never bother me. Recently I have booked himalayan 450 after test riding it. Go for himalayan not a KTM.
@@iamstrell my 1st service for HIM450 was 1300 and 2nd 200 rupees only.... service is cheap i would say... even my interceptor costs around 8000 for service
Same, bro! Really loved the suspension on Himalayan, but I wish the 450cc engine was more refined. Maybe it will improve with an update. The bike itself is a great though!
@@sameerkharade7750why are you guys crying over some small vibes when you know that it is a big single with square engine. It will have vibration and it is lower than their older models so it is better.
@@buzzlightyear1484 I'm riding a Honda CB350 Highness since eight months and I've been spoilt by the engine refinement. I know that Highness and Himalayan 450 are two different kind of bikes, but I tend to look for similar levels of refinement on other bikes which is why I'm kinda sad about the vibrations on Himalayan 450. That does not mean that I hate the Himalayan, because it still has a lot of great things - superb suspension, high revving engine, great design, good offroad and touring capability. Apart from that the Himalayan is definitely a great value for money straight out of the box💪
@@relaxininspiration NX500 does bring to table Honda's reliability and a decent middle-weight experience that it offers, which is an advantage, because we don't have a middle-weight twin cylinder adv in the Indian market currently, but the price makes it less desirable. There is nothing else to compare the NX500 against except the TRK 502 which is a great option, but sane person would go for a Honda. Had the price been aggressive, it would have gained more popularity.
They used premium parts in himalyan 450
Brembo brake pads
Showa suspension
DID chain
Koyo bearings
Excel takasago rims
I am enjoying my himalayan 450. It is so good to ride
So does it get hot in the city/traffic?
Offroad is MILES better on the 450 because the foot pegs are so rear set on the 390 it tends to throw me over the bar . Whereas the 450 has higher bars standard footpegs which are so good for off-road sections.
"KTM is control-oriented, RE is comfort-oriented", "If you are looking for comfort, go for KTM"
"RE is torque-oriented, KTM is power-oriented", "If you are looking to go fast, go for RE"
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Yeah, I had that same reaction as the emoji.
This guy doesn't know what he is saying in the joy of riding a motorcycle! Conclusion: There is no conclusion, go test ride both motorcycles and decide yourself which one is better for you 😂
I hate those gas stove type kill switch and high/low beam switch on RE Himalayan😅
Its not a pleasing thing to use.
@@iamstrellKTM had worst suspension in their all bikes
I do not know about the Himalayan 450 but the older Himalayan 411's seat felt comfortable initially but on a long ride the seat flattened out and my bum used to touch the frame of the bike and it hurt like hell. My Duke 390 seat was damn stiff but no matter what distance it used to remain the same. stiffer seat for longer rides and softer seat for shorter rides. ADV 390 has tubeless tires and the Himlalayan old or new still do not have tubeless tyres in India atleast. That is a big bummer in my opinion.
If you still have your 411, get the touring seat by RE. I have it. No major pain even after 700kms a day.
@@anat182I have the 411 - should I go for the touring seat without a doubt?
@@CaptainEscape Yesss.
The content is amazing as usual, wanted to compliment the colour grading of the entire video. Looks visually good❤
Strell, What do you mean by RE is less reliable? It'll just stall in middle of the road or if it falls on track, the service center doesn't know what parts to replace? - Reliability in terms of what? service center or engine longevity and reliability. - RE is less reliable doesn't really explain what you mean to convey and vice versa for KTM
I don't get one part.. people are saying that it's a good tourer, but the most useful range.. 90-110 ... Is so buzzy! I took two test rides on different machines, same result. Also, on braking, our jewels keep hitting the tank due to how the tank is shaped. It's pretty uncomfortable because of these two reasons combined.
Bro , i sold my 411 to buy this bike and wanted a tubeless bersion of himi bjt then RE gave me a big shock of not releasing the tubeless version . Now i m waitjng waiting and not sire how oong this will go on . I lived the 411 over 3 hears but used to get puncture every 1000 km or so snd i was so much fed up of it . Then i used to get very tense whenever i need to travel to Mangalore and back to Bangalore. It even got to a point where i had to keep checking the tire pressure every 100 km and even if kt dopped bu 2 to 3 psi i jsed ro fill it and tjats when i thought to sell it and i did .
I love how well re balance on low speed(5km/hr). Very useful on busy streets.
Ktm is a high compressed engine where as 450 it's squared engine which translates to more reliability of Himalayan. Vibrations its buzz on tank for me. I own h450
Is the vibrations deal breaker....i am planning to buy 450 but I have seen people saying it hot vibrations....can u plz tell me ur experience with 450 how reliable it is?
The previous Himalayan was shit but this time RE has improved a lot...I think this time the choice between these two bikes is only based on preferences, what do you need from the bike....both are capable bikes......go take a test ride and then see how you feel on that bike and then make your decision..... influencers give their own opinion. It can match your liking or not. Go take a test ride that's the holy grail of choosing a bike...
Hey.. I am a city user and may be i will go for long rides. Needs comfort and good bike.. is ktm 390 better or himmi 450.. I wanted to know about engine heating issues. Is it there is both the bikes or else inly in 450. Will it be a aproblem if i use it in city rides. Any suggestions to overcome that heat if i buy 450.. ???
I want to share a short experience that how Royal Enfield is improved a lot compared to other brands.
I went to testride meteor 350 and a person attended me (already talked over the phone after booking test ride)
I was surprised that the person gave me the keys of that bike directly and told me to do test ride as long as I want.
This is the first time that I did test ride alone. (compared to competitor, where they first ask if planning to buy if not, they will reject the test ride)
It is not about the bike but about the dealership that how they treat people.
I will definitely recommend Royal Enfield to other people, my friends and relatives.
Royal Enfield has now improved a lot from last few years, in engine design, in service, in sales and also in pre sales (test ride)
i was having the same confusion, so i moved up from both and bought a versys 650
Considering Maverick 440!
I would say Vstorm 250 is best in City and Highway
Aftersales is terrible 😢
Doesn't have the suspension travel.
With ADV and Himalayan the potholes don't feel bad
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@@anirudhhhh glides over potholes
I feel like 2025 ktm adv will turn the tables in terms of off-roading but still love the new RE Himalayan 450 in-terms of touring coming from a Himmy 450 owner.
In-terms of city, comparing to the upcoming KTM ADV 390, Himmy 450 maneuvers much better.
If you want a true KTM ADV for offroad, wait until 2025.
I don't think KTM will launch it any sooner, but test motorcycles showed under belly exhaust 🫣 I am afraid they don't launch it that way and say it's an adventure motorcycle 😂
What kind of Adv390 is that? the fairing is looking like 890!!
Can you please elaborate more on difference between controlled oriented vs comfort oriented
I know you asked him but I thought let me explain a little.... control oriented mean when you ride the bike it will do what you want it to do, it is well engineered with proper weight distribution and electronics to give you precise control on the bike..... comfort oriented means it is comfortable to ride but the bike will be little sluggish to take your inputs precisely..... However it is a minor difference and will affect mainly the pro riders...normal people will not feel that difference....I hope you understood...and sorry to pitch in if you don't want my explanation....happy riding 😊
@@beyourself9500 No worries, thank you for your explaination :)
Waiting for xpulse 440.. I'm hoping hero is working on that
U are the second utube r that mentioned the ktm is reliable 😊 after verified by Streell i will go for the KTM ❤
he meant more reliable than re. both are pathetic at reliability.
@@sharathvasudevExactly unless one knows how to maintain it, because no motorcycle is perfect!
Amazing content as always Strell bro!!!
One more important aspect is that as of now the Himalayan comes only with tube tyres whereas the adventure comes with alloys in one of the variants. That’s a big point especially for tourers.
Also, hopefully KTM will launch the facelift based on the new 399cc motor from the Duke 🤞🏻
bro please a make a video on 790kit on adv390
The problem with RE is the service center/after sales. Of you've got a local reliable re mechanic then you're set. Otherwise, it will cause some headache. I'm speaking from my own experience.
Same with KTM as well.
Hey Strell, Could you please tell regarding your motovlogging camera setup ?
Which action camera & do you use a chest mount ?
Thanks !
Hey, I use gopro Hero10 with chin mount.
@@iamstrell Thanks a lot man. Excellent vid, as always !
Is using the chin mount comfortable?
Hoping it doesn't cause disorientation ?
Would be great if you could make a video about your setup, and pros and cons of different moto vlogging setup types and how you capture the engine sound so nicely in your pure riding sound videos.
I am byk enthusiastic i have owned ktm 390 adventure and sold because of hell of vibration in lower rpm's and not reliable sold it where as i own royal Enfield Himalayan 450 vibration are not their with 4000rpm and then its vibrates at 100 to 120kph after that 130 it is buzz but we can enjoy comparing two royal Enfield Himalayan 450 is far most better machine than ktm 390 adventure
I thought KTM only had adventure 390, didn't knew it has Adevnture 390 as well
Hehe. Thanks. Corrected it.
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where can i get that 390 adv visor kit??
Both are not for serious off-road. I would take duke because of power and reliability.
You should check out Abhinav Bhat's Him450... then you won't say this....Lol
Is the salt color looks good in real?
Like your reviews bro.. Very nice.. Bro where are you from... Iam from Assam..
Hi bro nice to meet
You're riding on the Krishnagiri highway 😅 I saw the hospital 💚✨⚡
Still the refinement, smoothness, reliability factors are absent in RE bikes.
Adventure spelling is wrong in the title.
Corrected. thanks :)
Himalayan 450 dominar 400 which is better highways better
Domi all day on highway
KTM doesn't have a low torque issue, only thing is you have to ride it in a one lower gear always
Yeah which is always first gear! 😂
I’ve had both. Himi any day.
A video on vitpilian 250 bro
video quality is so crisp
Sorry bro... I don't agree with you. I have sold my KTM 390 adventure because of reliability issue only within 2 years. Most of the time it stayed in the workshop. I could clock only 7000kms. And I also can confirm that vibration is lesser in himalayan than a KTM 390. Currently I am using RE 650s gt interceptor and super meteor which never bother me. Recently I have booked himalayan 450 after test riding it. Go for himalayan not a KTM.
Sorry to hear that you didnt had a good time with the 390. And glad to know that you are now enjoying the RE twin :) Happy motoring.
On the contrary my Adv 390 has clocked 28k kms… and its an awesome all rounder… rocket in the highways and great in traffic too…
Do 450 vs 400x
Which one is more value for money?
him450 is at 3.5 lakhs and ktm 4 lakhs...for 50k u can actually buy a lot of accessories ...so I would say Him450 is more value for money...
Himalayan is VFM out of the showroom. Later it compensate during the service.
what if we consider KTM ADV X varient which is similarly priced as himalayan ?@@iamstrell
@@iamstrell my 1st service for HIM450 was 1300 and 2nd 200 rupees only.... service is cheap i would say... even my interceptor costs around 8000 for service
Any day ktm adventure is more Relaible Then RE
Neither. Wait for the new KTM 399 that'll come with spokes and buy that one.
WTF BRO! You're riding only the Himalayan, but not the Ktm.
KTM 390 adventure looks like a Mantis bro.
Cf moto 450 St I liked that one
china maal he bhai
Chinese, no thankyou
Ohhhh 😢😢., i really like the 450., but its vibration 😭😭😭😭😭😭
Same, bro! Really loved the suspension on Himalayan, but I wish the 450cc engine was more refined. Maybe it will improve with an update. The bike itself is a great though!
Better ride an Electric if u guys complaint so much about the little vibration that the engine makes you feel.
ola chalo bhai😂
@@sameerkharade7750why are you guys crying over some small vibes when you know that it is a big single with square engine. It will have vibration and it is lower than their older models so it is better.
@@buzzlightyear1484 I'm riding a Honda CB350 Highness since eight months and I've been spoilt by the engine refinement. I know that Highness and Himalayan 450 are two different kind of bikes, but I tend to look for similar levels of refinement on other bikes which is why I'm kinda sad about the vibrations on Himalayan 450. That does not mean that I hate the Himalayan, because it still has a lot of great things - superb suspension, high revving engine, great design, good offroad and touring capability. Apart from that the Himalayan is definitely a great value for money straight out of the box💪
Thanks bro
Both these bikes will sweat profusely when Honda launches its own adv, but it might take them forever😂
Need an Africa Twin 650 🔥
The issue with honda is that they have lost their originality in india. They are just copying the classic 350 and himaayan at this point
Honda has NX500 adv already in market...
@@relaxininspiration
NX500 does bring to table Honda's reliability and a decent middle-weight experience that it offers, which is an advantage, because we don't have a middle-weight twin cylinder adv in the Indian market currently, but the price makes it less desirable. There is nothing else to compare the NX500 against except the TRK 502 which is a great option, but sane person would go for a Honda. Had the price been aggressive, it would have gained more popularity.
Here when the title says adevnture
Thanks. Its fixed.
I'd buy 390 adv rather than himalayan cause himalayan doesn't get tubeless tires.
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of course KTM
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Dude you are confused 😂
Namaste
Day 69 asking for 457
Hope Aprilia provides a motorcycle to me for a reivew :) Unfortunately, no internal contacts to get one.
@@iamstrell sad to hear that🥲🥲
Both r non reliable
Huhu
KTM is bike for CHAPARI guys...
That's a really sad statement to hear for a real biker
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