LG C3 vs. Hisense U8N, Sony Bravia 9 Better Than OLED? | You Asked Ep. 39
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- Опубліковано 14 чер 2024
- On today’s episode of You Asked: 4K OLED vs. 8K mini-LED, Are built-in TV streaming apps better for picture quality than an external streamer, Is the Bravia 9 gonna be better than an OLED? And LG C3 vs. Hisense U8N - which should you buy?
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I look forward to the Q&A video all week. I have learned so much on these episodes as well as the other videos. Keep'em coming.
Caleb Denison for president of the United States of America
One of the best q&a sessions ever! 🎉 I’ve been pondering all these questions for awhile now!! Thank you!
Especially the tv apps Vs external device! Also, I can’t wait for your detailed reviews of the new Bravias!! I hope you offer advice on the different video setting options other than just filmmaker mode! 🎉😊
Ready for that streaming box comparison!
It's real easy! If you mostly do your streaming from streaming services go for the Apple TV Box, if you have your own collection, go for the Nvidia Shield TV...
Actually some fair questions and the answers was also spot on... Well done.
These question and answer videos are just great 👌👌👌
Great video....what do you define as an older TV?
Hi Caleb! Thanks for the awesome content as always. You are one of the beacons in the industry for TV enthusiasts! One question: Would you have time to delve into U8N ADS Pro panel at 75"? This is a very interesting purchase for the (admittedly slowly) growing users who utilize a large TV screen as PC monitor. I for one, have been using TVs as PC monitors for over 10 years, you get the best of both worlds for cinema and gaming. Thanks, and hope you feel refreshed after your holidays!
Gidday from Australia Caleb, thank you for another awesome video, just wanted to let you know your show has viewers all the way here down under. Colin, Melbourne Australia.
Another excellent hotel version of You Asked! Another set of great questions and answers. Great job, Caleb!
Great run through. So what would be the best type of screen for all day viewing and for sports and movies, as I can't keep up with the different ones? Thanks!
I have followed your content for years . When i need answers about the newest tv this or that you are the go to guy . All tvs seem to be trying to catch up to the oled tech . I believe the lcd advancements have reached the maximum as far as it can go . Oled still has some wiggle room with brightness and then it will be capped off as well . I finally bought my first oled its the 77 inch lg c3 i,ve never seen such a beautiful tv picture as long as the content is there the upscale is pretty good you have to give the unit something to work with . I ,ve had my oled for a month every now and again i go on youtube and run those oled test 4k documentaries just to see what this space ship can do . Nothing can compare and thank you for all your info on tv tech ................
Love the unbiased takes. I have no interest in TVs, but I genuinely appreciate honesty.
if you don't know anything about TVs how can you tell if someone is being unbiased in their takes?
I LOVE this series. Thank you for doing it. On the topic of external streamers to internal tv apps, I've really enjoyed the external options once my panel no longer receives support. I am still enjoying my 65in LG E6. The panel still looks great, I enjoyed watching Avatar 2 in 3d at home (haha), but the support of the onboard apps are long gone at this point. I like the idea of buying the latest apple TV, Roku Ultra, or shield to "keep my os up to date" whole still enjoying a viable panel. I also have employed a HD Fury from arcana to guve me a split earc and enjoy lossless Atmos with my sould system. The idea that we can extend the viability of these panel beyond their supported schedules is just great!
Good, really looking forward to that Shiels vs ATV comparison. Love your stuff.
Have both. The Apple TV is better imo.
I own and use 2 Nvidia Shield TVs for streaming and live TV. The Apple TV is more powerful, but I don't like the closed ecosystem.
@@lifewithintergrity I have apple tv 4k but I'm not sure if it's me but it doesn't support all audio formats
Excellent presentation
Nice video keep up the good work
So I am fortunate enough to have both an OLED (LG C4 just got it) and a MiniLED (Sony X95L) TV in my house. I also use reference monitors for CG in my office. So my first thing is if you cannot control ambient light in the room go MiniLED. Even If you can control the light in the room The higher peak brightness of miniLED can really make the image pop in ways OLED can't. I don't feel like one is really better than the other but more that they both have drawbacks. OLED gets you deep blacks and Less blooming since you will always have some blooming due to the optics of your eyes. But you might get black crush and you aren't going to get the brightness of the MiniLED. MiniLED can have trouble with blooming but it is less susceptible to black crush and has a much higher peak brightness. For most people, I honestly think MiniLED is the way to go. Almost all the mastering is done using LCD. OLED reference monitors are really new not to mention they are kind of small and and really dim.
Don't forget your complimentary burn in on OLED.
Which application will give you a crisper picture with natural light. I have a lot of windows in my house which give an abundance of sunlight. Please forgive my ignorance on this as I have not done enough research to know which is better. All the best, k
@@KB-kd9pt The point is, watching a movie in sunlight is never a natural situation but an odd one. If you're talking about casual TV watching during daytime with lots of sunlight,Full array or mini led wins in that condition.
If you're planning to buy a TV for majorly watching movies, and want a sharper picture, go for OLED. But you need to watch the movie s during evening or night time in a well lit room, no issues. If you want to watch movies during daytime, you need some blinds/ curtains to control the light.
I got S95C and X95L, contrary to what the main poster said, the QD-OLED is far superior in PQ and no issues with lack of brightness. I won't try to justify my purchase of mini led and I think it's bit hyped. I feel it'd equally do, if I purchased full array led X90L (much cheaper).
@@shanew7361 Something you shouldn't worry about!
'Liked' for covering the effects of 'all day' usage and burn-in. Thanks.
Thanks for being honest about the C3 vs C4.
I have a LG C3 OLED and love it.
For the C4 if you are interested in gaming it does 144hz
What a great video. Thanks.
Love these 'you asked' vids, thanks for the hotel drop Caleb! As for the OLED vs. LED debate, I'm just a sucker for the blacks in a movie dipping to the point that it matches the letterbox.
I was watching BR2049 over the weekend and that spinner chase over the Pacific ocean is such a masterwork of black levels. OLED's provide the closest thing to my long lost love of those Pioneer Plasma's from back in the day.
I want the Apple TV vs Nvidia Shield AV enthusiast comparison video so baddddddd
Shield is a 5year old soc, it’s practically abandonware. Cannot do av1. Cannot do hdr+. It cant even do googles own hdr on the youtube we are watching here. All of which are formats showing up more and more. No reason an ‘enthusiast’ would be touching such out of touch tech.
I have been watching your videos for years now and I know you answer this question before but I’m curious I would you answer it now. How long should you wait to get a new tv I have the LG CX/ LG C10?
I have a tcl 98x11g, it big & bright and thanks to 5000 dimming zones it's very hard to find a blooming area.
Hi Caleb, long time subscriber and follower by the way I learned a lot about tvs with you. My question is it too much difference between the A80l and the Bravia 8?
Good question. Hardware wise, it's the same more or less, but the Bravia 8 has some new software and processing issues
@@michael-4k4000 as I understand, it is a little bit brighter, the bezels changes and includes special picture modes for Netflix Amazon and Sony app, explain the issues.
How long will the LG BX Oled be supported for say? Built in apps. And how long will the device get software updates from now... and does Dolby Vision IQ actuality work in a dark black out room?
Hi Caleb, you had the pleasure to play around with 97" LG OLED G2. There are some interesting deals right now with more than 40% discount. What is your opinion about that TV now in light of current progress of new models, keeping in mind it's sole function would be movies and streaming? Thanks :)
Happy weekend 😁
Question I have the LG C2 and the Vizio elevate sound bar should I plug my Apple TV box directly into the LG or into the sound bar
I think when we’re comparing MiniLED vs OLED it’s important to also bring overall value into the conversation. I recently picked up a 65” TCL QM8, and I’ve come to enjoy watching movies on it way way more than my LG CX 77”. The peak brightness on QM8 just really makes HDR content have that “wow” factor. Obviously OLED has come a long way since the CX, but I don’t think I could justify the price difference if I was in the market for another TV at this point. I’m nearly completely satisfied with the QM8. (I got my QM8 for around $700)
And SONY will always be better than any of those...
Guess you're not referring to dark room viewing .... ???
I was just about to say to the op that I'm in a similar boat. I have a 85 inch Sony and the lower level TCL and I enjoy watching 4k HDR content better on the TCL due to brightness.@@steveludwig4200
HDR is overrated, higher brightness doesn't mean WOW..
@@steveludwig4200 I have been a Sony fan since I was old enough to remember - however.... I have been buying lg TV's for the last 15 years, and MSRP be damned, the sony's I do like cost twice as much as the LG OLED offerings that look good to me....
When will you do a full review on the Sony A9 Quad?
we've never had a problem with LG OLED installed apps. Always had good streaming and quality.
The whole which is better internal apps or AppleTV 4K as an example. That actually depends there has been situations where the DV looked better on internal apps.
This is the whole "Player led vs TV led" HDR/DV. With AppleTV it might do the processing and the TV isn't as involved as much. The really important part would be for example Sony XR Clear. Does it work on anything. Meaning anything connected via HDMI or only on internal apps? If it only works on internal apps then it would be better to use them when streaming since you get the extra upscaling and cleaning of low bit rate content. Even 4K streams.
I wish someone actually made a proper comparison. Side by side.
I've had my TCL 75" miniLED tv for a couple of weeks now. I love the size and hate the picture quality. Considering going back to my 7 year old LG OLED with burn in until I find a good offer on a large OLED TV.
I love my LG C3 65 inch
My Sony A80K streaming apps looked better than any streaming box I took home, Apple4K-Ruko's best unit. Same trying cable-cutting UA-cam /Fubo, My Verizon FIOS cable box looks better and has more consistent picture quality and sound. While costing less.
My question is when I watch these types of reviews and they show how one OLED or what ever is brighter than the other and I can see it on my Sony A80K which means my TV can reproduce that brightness level. if so I would not be able to see it on my Sony. right? Love the channel.
All TVs will look as good as lighting conditions and like all my past TVs they look better with lower nighttime lighting.
the streaming quality question speaks to a search i had early last month. turns out different web browsers allow for different streaming quality. I've got a 4k tv mounted above my desktop. This took me by surprise.
Suggestion: Do a comparison of Apple streaming box vs. a 4k blu-ray player.
Will the LG Oled C2, Apple TV, and/or the Sonos Arc ever/finally get DTS:X support since IMAX Enhanced audio will be available in some Disney+ content?
Hey Caleb! Does the 75-inch U8N use an ADS IPS PRO panel, if so, wouldn't the viewing angles on the 75-inch look better than the 65 inch which uses an VA panel?
I would take the ADS-PRO. I cant explain. I thought ADS-pro will be lower tier or catching up game. But WALKING the store seeing 75” U8K ,,,I walking out Flipped UPSIDE down. They are the MOST GLOSSY panels ever. They look like Acrylic wall art glossy .
On top they absorb light 2X as OLED. So it looks like dark glossy portal on those Star 🌟 Trek show.
How about Amazon Fire TV for streaming?
Really like “you asked “ videos. I have had both LCD and OLED . OLED is my favorite by far.
Bring on the Bravia 7
Seen a U8K and C3 in a 'normal' living room setting, haven't seen a U8N. That said, even with brightness taken into account, there's no contest - the C3 wins hands down; just has the wow factor. The U8K is great, but there's levels to the game here.
At the same price point, unless your TV is set up facing directly into the sun for some reason, you'd go with the C3, unless the U8N is a dramatic upgrade.
The c3 is dim as hell tho. Its basically unusable in anything other than vivid and even then its still dim
I'd have to see for myself. The U8k can do everything according to Rtings at a high level. While you get an overall better picture with a C3. You don't have to worry about stutter or brightness levels as much with that LCD. Then if you want to buy a 77 or 85 inch tv you'll save thousands by getting the hisense. Unless the image is really overrated the hisense appears to be a better value.
I sell TVs and to be honest I have compared them and although OLED is really good hands down the U8K is soo good especially for what you are paying
Same price point?
Absolutely not. Even TCLs new mini led flagship is better standing next to this.
The G3 is incredible. It’s my third LG OLED and let me just say the brightness is for real. Sometimes I contemplate turning my brightness down further haha.
I got the 55” TCL 6 series back in 2021 and I notice the various streaming apps installed in the TV are noticeably worse when it comes to picture quality compared to my Apple TV. For me personally, I use my Apple TV if I’m watching things on Netflix, Max & Paramount+, but if I’m watching UA-cam, it’s easier to just use the on board TV app
When you do Nvidia shield vs Apple TV, can we get the Onn Walmart 4K as well? Since it's the newest entrant from Google
Hi Caleb.
Just so you know-there’s an ongoing issue with LG G4 TVs involving messed up HDMI ports (particularly the most important HDMI 2 port) where video is scrambled when you switch from an internal TV app to the HDMI 2 port. There’s a 6-page AVS forum thread on it with multiple users reporting the issue, and one user reports his local Best Buy has already processed 17 returns of the G4. LG has yet to even officially address the issue.
It’s a real shame as I was just about to buy that TV and all the reviewers love it…
I have a Hisense U8H and the local dimming is off on every picture mode. It is grayed out so I can't even select it to turn it on. Is there something I need to do to activate it?
Is the U8N the next years model of the U8K?
I want to upgrade my home theater. I have a 10 yr old 1080 projector with a 105 inch screen. I think it would be the time to go with a 98 -105 inch TV. Buy now or wait for newer? and which one. Dark room used for major sport events and new movies. Thanks. Low your channel
Bravia 9 gonna be TV of the Year!
CALEB YOU ROCK FOR PICKING MY QUESTION!! Unfortunately I tried but cant swing the LG G3 so I am going to purchase a 55" LG C3 hopefully this weekend 🎉. Thankyou again for picking my question!!!!
Then you should try and swing for the 65" instead. BIG difference, assuming you have the space...
@@supergrissi unfortunately I don't have the space for 65 in the 55-in was already pushing it LOL
I almost bought the G3 after finding out about the G4 HDMI problem-but I chose to pay up for a S95D instead… I got my friend a C3 because she wasn’t really into paying tip top dollar but I told her the C3 was too good to pass up at $899…
A consideration when choosing an external streamer vs the TV's built-in streaming app is, does the built-in app support all the channels you watch? For instance in the case of LG TVs: ESPN, PBS Passport, Criterion Channel & many other important channels are not supported. An advantage of a built-in app is, it frees up an HDMI port & the TV's remote is used during app navigation (one less remote!).
That's a good reason to get a Sony TV. Sony TVs use Android TV as the software so you don't have to worry about TV manufacturer software not having an app. Android TV will.
SHIELD vs APPLE TV! Yes please, Caleb.
I haven’t watched the vid yet, but just from the intro, I can tell you I have had other issues besides basic picture quality with external streaming boxes compared to apps built in to the TV. We are having issues with our Apple TV 4K, where the UA-cam app glitches on every single advertisement. The sound and video flash to black multiple times and some of the ad (and then some of the content after the ad) is cut off. It’s so jarring to watch, I’ve switched to the LG WebOS version since most of my watching is on UA-cam. We’ve had plenty of other annoyances with the Apple TV recently as well. I love the platform though; I am just waiting for a new version to come out. Hopefully they’ll support 120 Hz refresh rate finally too.
Thanks for your great reviews. I'm looking to replace my 55" Panasonic plasma, which is still working just fine. I'm looking at 65" in the $1000 area and you've narrowed down for to 3 TVs.
In my search I see 65" 4K sets from known manufacturers under $400, How bad are they? Have you tested at this price point? Are these sets good value? I find this interesting. Thanks for your time.
I wouldn't suggest buying a 4K 65" TV for only $400. You would have to settle for a junk brand that won't look that good and won't last that long. If you have $1,000 to spend I'd definitely use the whole budget. Or even better, keep the plasma for a little while longer and save up more to get even better. Personally I'd go for a smaller size before I'd go for a low quality brand or lower end model.
Just bought a 65” C3 this morning for 1400 CHF I’m excited. Just moved to Switzerland from the State. Is there any significant differences between the C3 series in Europe vs USA?
I know we get the U8KQ which operates off Vidaa instead of Google TV.
How much is that in Baht?
Good morning, despite not understanding the English language well, I watch your videos about televisions, I would like to make one comparing the Hisense U8N TV with the TCL QM851, both from the year 2024, thank you.
Kudos for making a "Studio Apartment" look like a "TV Studio" by using the right lights & cutaways to illustrate your points. Small spaces with the right lighting take time to setup. Studio settings usually can leave lights in place. Viewers should know that when a show goes on location (remote), the crew size increases for the setup & knockdown. If it doesn't increase, you must pay for longer hours at a higher rate. Simple math vs keeping the cost of the "look" for viewers. Sometimes the look is a necessary sacrifice in favor of content. As you said, do you spend $1k+ more for a TV your eyes & ears will not actually see or hear!?
I bought a 75in U8K (75in has the ads pro ips panel instead of VA) and have been very happy with it. It gets bright af and looks great.
How are the viewing angles? I'm stuck between a U8N 75 inch or a G4 77 inch.
Too bad the video processing is abysmal
@@davidross7255I’m sure the G4 is a superior tv but that comes at twice the price. I paid 1200 for my 75 U8k. The question is the G4 worth spending 2k more on for that increase in picture quality. Only you can answer that.
@@davidross7255 ADS panel have good viewing angles and a more glossy finish. VA has bad viewing angles. So the TV needs a viewing angle filter, but that will lower the VA panel contrast and making it more greyish to the eye, depending on the finish. But from what i´ve seen most Hisense VA panel have bad viewing angles. So no viewing angle filter. Can´t speak for the U8N.
@@armylrs2391 ?
Dont hate on NYC! Nice lighting btw.
I got the U8N 55" forfreeformy honest review. That said, it hasavery nice picture straight on, but off angle is horrible. It doesnt come close to either my C1 or G3 OLEDs at all.
I'm still not clear on the benefits of using an apple tv box over, say, the apps on my Sony's Google tv interface.
I am fine with the quality I get from the built in apps though so eh... I don't stream enough for it to be a big thing. Would make for an interesting video if you expand on the comparison you mentioned for apple tv vs Nvidia
I feel like Hisense lost it’s way, they were supposed to be the budget choice.
At $1500 they’re no contest to C3 or Samsung S90C
If you want LED instead of OLED just get the Sony x93L that is at the same price; some would say Hisense is better for gaming as it supports Dolby Vision gaming and stuff, but being real their implementation of VRR is very buggy so I believe most folks would be ok with a proper HDR10 VRR implementation than a glitchy all rounder
I chose a 75 U8k over a 65 C3. I got the size and picture upgrade I wanted over my previous tv and I saved a bunch of money. I’m happy with it and to my eyes it looks excellent. I love the brightness and the colors. It also has deep blacks and I barely have seen any blooming.
How are the viewing angles?
@@davidross7255 just fine for the way my seating area around the tv is situated. You have to go pretty far off angle for the picture to get funky
On the 75 inch the viewing angles are perfect like an OLED.
Caleb: I need help and can't find an answer to this anywhere. I have a Samsung QN90B tv and a Samsung 750B soundbar/rear speaker set up. The soundbar supports DTS, the TV does not. When I have it all hooked up through e-Arc I was told that no DTS signal will pass through the tv and I won't get any audio but I do get audio and it sounds pretty damn good. The soundbar though does not show DTS it shows multichannel pcm. So my question is: what sound am I getting? Is it the DTS sound? Or is it downgraded. If it is the DTS encoded sound with no downgrades will it be the same for a DTS X encoded track? Or am I losing quality by listing (well watching a blu ray more so than listening) this way?
I hope you answer. Love your reviews and videos
Try setting the tv to adaptive soundmode it should solve the sound issues
So at this moment it is also G3 over C4?
Amazon has the *** 75" *** U8N on sale for $1499
As does Best Buy -- until the end of today at least. I'm torn between this and the LG C3 -- leaning toward the latter, as I don't have an overly bright space and watch movies mostly, no gaming. OLED stutter does concern me, though.
What is that cabinet at 0:08
LG G3 is $2,300 at best buy now. The other day, Costco had the Samsung S90C for $1999 with total of 5 year warranty plus $150 Costco Cash. S90C seems like best deal now
Hey Caleb, are there any ETA on the Bravia 7 and 9 reviews that you can share with us?
If anyone is looking for a cheaper tv, I was at Best Buy yesterday and the TCL Q7 I believe had an awesome picture for a cheaper tv. I think it was on sale for $899 for a 75 inch! I didn't buy it, but just looking at all the TVs with a novice eye, it looked really good. Thought I'd pass that along because I'm new here, and looking for a tv. Don't know anything else about it, except it looked really good and was fairly cheap as far as 75 inch TVs go...
LG C3 65-inch OLED is on sale right now at Costco for $1600. I don't think you can beat this deal and is the Best Value Budget TV right now.
The problem with ATV is it doesn't support all the audio formats the way Nvidia Shield does from my understanding. If the new ATV release this year supports the same audio, it's going to be an excellent choice over the shield.
It makes no sense to not be compatible with DTS. If they fix that, I will be willing to get it. For now, I have inexpensive firesticks (4k, 4k Max). For $25-$40 they're fine but I am interested in trying Apple TV box, if it was compatible with all popular audio formats. There really is no good reason for it not to be. For $100-$150, audio codecs shouldn't be an issue.
I have lg oled right now. It pretty old now, but its still great for movies i watch. But my next tv could be miniLed from Hisense or TCL from 2 main reasons. 1. Size - i want something in 98-100 inches. 2. Brightness - i often watch movies in daylight and 3500 - 5000 lumens peak brightness would elevate my watching experience in that environment.
As much as I would love to have a OLED I am a gamer and live on my TV off and on all day and night another great video Caleb
Yeah I would Grab Samsugn S95C if not getting U8N. Def NOT C3. C3 is seen as downgrade for a lot of folks thinking that its too dim. HDR Gamming tested PEAK at -480nits, its ridiculous, ppl have to like live in pitch black single life for that even on spring days. :)
I'm an Android user and bought and returned the most recent Apple TV box.
I found it frustratingly slow versus Google TV to setup. I suppose if I was an Apple user I may not feel this way.
Given the price I just was hoping it would blow me away compared to Google TV but it didn't.
Please give comparison video on g3 vs samsung s95d.
Does Nvidia based G-Sync in Lg G3 better than Samsung S95D
Whats the Best Value TV’s to Buy at Costco ?
The question is in the price per inch for the Sony 9 make it the best for the average TV buyer
I like the Fork-A OLED
I thought Classy said the C4 was a significant upgrade from the C3? Especially with brightness gains.
No. Get the C3. In fact never ever get the current year OLED, unless they are offering some brand new tech like MLA. Otherwise the changes each year to the B/C are very small. Have a LG B7 that gets almost as bright as my C2.
I got 2011 Samsung 55 inch 3D 1080 TV. Not once have I ever used it for 3D content lol. I use apple TV 4k as my streaming box and I use youtubeTV for cable TV sub. I watch maybe 2-3 hours of shows/movies a week. Not a heavy TV watcher. My TV is really showing it's age but still works fine. Is it really necessary for me to get a new TV? I also use a Denon TX-SR 444 for home theater audio. My audio setup is 2 front polk t15 speakers with pioneer SP C-22 center speaker, 2 ceiling Polk 10" speakers, and 2 rear Polk t15 speakers. The Denon does Atmos. So far I am pretty happy with it. But I guess if I get a new TV I would want a new receiver too right? Or would this be wasting money and I should just keep what i got till it breaks?
I thought I had an ancient TV a 2015 lg uf7300 60 inch no hdr whatsoever you have topped me !!
Would love a Shield vs ATV comparison! One example of internal streaming apps giving [slightly] better PQ than an external device would be in the case of Sony TV’s from 2020 and earlier. Sony TVs for 2020 and earlier did not have “TV-led Dolby Vision” capability. They only have “player-led Dolby Vision”. TV-led DV is supposedly better for PQ. (One exception to the Sony 2020 lineup was the X900 H which received TV-led DV via a firmware update, but that set had other issues, like no smooth gradation setting.) so if you have a 2020 or earlier premium Sony set Dolby Vision content may look slightly better when using the internal apps, although most people wouldn’t notice unless you had two sets side-by-side.
I have a X900h that I used a shield with for quite a while. The picture had such bad color banding that I hated the tv. I’ve since switched to an Apple TV4k, and my issues are gone. The UI is much better IMO also.
@@lifewithintergrity yea it’s ridiculous that the X900H didn’t have a smooth gradation processing setting. So even though it has TV-led DV it’s negated by the poor process, especially color banding. I have the X950H and I almost got the X900H instead that year. Glad I didn’t.
OLED is king in a dark room Miniled is more suited for a bright room. Both tech are intended for different use cases.😊
only fools watch movies in a super bright room. Watching TV in a bright room is a superficial issue created by marketing guys to sell mini LEDs
Got a 65 inch G3 for 1,500 and the issues with lower than 1080P source materials are bad. My Panny Z series plasma blows it away. Regret not getting the Sony OLED
Came here to thank Digital Trends. Got a 77inch Sony A95L several months ago…my entertainment watching has never been better.
lol. I want accurate picture. I don't care how shiny, colorful, etc it is. I want to see what the director wants to show.
Yeah but you can get that image in the cheapest tv if you calibrate it. Why get a top of the line tv to get a flat two-dimensional lifeless image? There’s going to be no comparison between the filmmaker mode and the best-looking image an A95L can produce.
@@techsamurai11sounds like you got something terribly wrong with your TV. Filmaker mode picture never is flat. It has better depth and tone mapping with great shadow details.
@@Sas-wk9lj point me to a video where Filmmaker mode looks better than Standard in Warm 1-2 (ideally 1.5). Quantum TV has 1,000 videos showing how bad Filmmaker mode is. I changed my TV to cinema mode in Succession and the picture literally died - there's no other way to explain it. My TV would have looked like a TV from the 80s.
I can't even take Live Color off my Sony - it never looks better without it. I know it's not accurate but it looks better so it stays on. It's not like it picks an orange instead of blue, it picks a more vibrant color.
And I've watched everything on that TV from Rififi to the Hitchcock Anthology, to every John Ford Movie to a 1,000 series. And of course gaming isn't gaming without the TV in proper settings with Reality Creation on. In fact, Reality Creation is easily the #1 gaming TV feature of all time surpassing HDMI 2.1 by a mile.
@@techsamurai11 I'm sorry to hear you get ugly looking PQ when turned to filmmaker mode. I am coming from Samsung S95C perspective and believe me or not, I used to do a lot of tweaking to see which mode I should settle on until I found filmmaker mode to be working best especially for SDR movies.
However, I own Sony X95L too and I got it set at Dolby vision mode with reality creation turned on at 80% and live colour medium. I agree, without live colour on, the PQ is awful and reality creation manual setting is must for a sharper grainy picture ( for upscaled videos). When playing DV content, I don't touch the settings as it looks natively good with auto selection of 'Dolby Vision Bright'.
One thing that dramatically changes the literally bad/dull PQ to great is to set the Ambient Optimisation Pro/Ambient Light Sensor setting to 'off'.
Rififi is a great old movie (in b/w), I too watch some great oldies like 12 Angry Men, Hitchcock short TV series, Twilight Zone...
I watch TV on a 2015 tv because it’s more accurate than the more modern tv’s that just raise the contrast and saturation. Accuracy is more important to me than bright colours.
I was also recently deciding between the Hisense u8k and the LG c3 (my C1 motherboard went left 3x 🤷🏻♂️) and I went with the u8k. Not because I needed the brightness or leave the TV on all day but because I wanted to move up to 75 inches and the price gap between the u8k 75 and c3 77 is HUGE ($1199 vs $2499). I've been an oled owner since 2016 and mini led is astonishing! The biggest draw back to me is how Bright it is. Even on energy saver and 0 brightness, it's BRIGHT
What !!! I have never had my U8G have the brightness down beneath 20% usually they r at 30s n 40s at night.
0 !!!!!!😮 Do u sit too close to the TV ?
Sometimes too close to TV can even cause issues ! Like looking at a lamp from far it fine . Tv is a light source .
N how large is your TV ?
Do u watch in pitch black than having night light /lamp
@@Yoga_Tv_buying 7 to 8ft away from 75 inch u8k
@@ThornTheaterReviews omg that is SOOOOO CLOSE. U need optimal 10.5-11 feet for 75” (for bright tv), maybe if its like OLED DIM tv, like 10-10.5 can work fine too. But like its a Distance ISSUE>
1, Theater IMAX is projection on a large Screen, its a reflection. Its ONLY OKAY becasue its very-DIM, low in Pop, n only 2-3hr once like 6 months. IF u have IMAX extremely bright, n u sit close at like even 5th, 6th roo. Still will burn your eyes out.
TV is light-SOURSE. Completely NOT same as Theater. The BEST tv watching experiene is how we treat it as a LAMP. A 30W lamp at night in pitch black wil burn eye. But at SUNSET some lighting still best . Like using iphone with dim night light better than in Pitch black. When staring at light SOURSE, THEATER 🎭 tv watching will Make eyes fatigue. N actually will make you see LESS color but lots white litght. Becaues eyes lose way to focus due to fatigue.
@@ThornTheaterReviews Dude u wont get this from anywere on the most TV chanels. MOST guys into tech didnt take biology n didnt have their research scientist to explain how EYES can go Blind watching tv. So in case I am trying to explain something its just said by professor 👩🏫, i am passing info. She was trying to coach us that watching TV is completely different than Theatre. That often ppl want feel the PEAK of theater experience by forcing the Narritive . It cant work that great because 1 is projection tv , 1 is lamp ACTUAL light source. Strangest but Mots beneficial info years later I am so grateful to have.
That a Bright 30W lamp on our face still will be too bright at night, but a 100W streetlight u stare at it from far away its NOT so bad. So 1st of all its too close to Tv.
2ndly when TOO close to TV especially 75”. Your eyes 👀 go from left to right up n down zoom in zoom out constantly. Switch scenes . That d tinny muscles on pupil get fatigue ( like marathon). It seize up. Often keep doing that a few months later ( like if u keep run 15 km a day without leg rest, there will be scar tissue form in the pupil muscle ) slolwy it will be more limb. That will prefent your eyes to shrink or expend efficently. Slolwy your eyes will either do 2 things when its too OUT of focus, since if u sit too close to tv, it will try to force focus , the eye ball will become longer n hallow --creat short sightedness. NO.2 the EYES since too CLOSE to screen the tinny muscles on pupil fatigue n seize up. U can NO longer focus or RESTRICT amount of lights from scene to scene cause WAY too much lights to come in the eyes. Since even tho u turn down the tv, but since its TOO close to tv screen your eyes are tyring to Focus on things TOO close to eyes(when its OUT of focus) thats tremendous amount of strain.
U NEED size 55’ to 65” NOT 75”. 6-7 feet is BEST 55” . Even 65” need at least 8.5”. Dude, I AM SERIOUS if u find it too bright its NOT its too bright, its too CLOSE.
I have 1800 U8G 65” i have my tv on 10-13 hrs a day everyday. N I turn them VERY bright. Because actually i got lucky our professor enlightened us d Optimal way to watch tv. N warn us WATCHING in Theater pitch black will make us go Blind especailly if too close. Even if u turn it dim. The thing is its PAINLESS. No feeling. If eye pupils muscles (micro size) stiff up, you turn our tv down , no use. If keep watching the muscles go stiff, the lights laser shotting landing at Retina, it will ruin your vision forever over time.
U need to get MUCH smaller Tv !
@@Yoga_Tv_buying might have to go back down to the 65 inch
LEDs much better value than OLEDs at big screen sizes.
The Bravia will be brighter and better for daytime and well lit environments, while the oled will be more accurate and better for darker rooms and movie watching. Also, oled quick response makes more sense for gaming. I think that oled can already get bright enough, or will be there eventually. Why bother with anything else?
Streaming quality depends on codec and bitrate. Generally I don't think internet streaming will be better than a bluray anytime soon.
Option begets confusion -the reason why many people aren't sure, confused and fall back on expert opinion to help them decide which TV to buy. I can justify my purchase of a TV only if it significantly stands out from the rest in PQ. Period.
Sold my Apple TV 4K gen 3 box. Prefer LG C3 apps mostly as apart from Apple TV series or movies then there’s not much difference. Amazon Movies and BBC iplayer look far better on LG apps. However sound seems far better from LG apps when using LG S65Q soundbar.
I just bought a C3 for my friend on discount-what a great TV for $899! (@42”)
thankyou so much thats what i was thinking. i gathered my family to watch this video! thank you alot of fun! i am jake jake haha
I tried a apple 4K and nvidia shield on the Hisense and it still sucked