This Paint Trick Will Make CHEAP WHITE PAINT Cover + Hide As Well As The Most Expensive Brands!
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How can you make your white paint products cover and hide surfaces even better? This short video from The Honest Carpenter and Oak City Coatings will show you a pro trick for making affordable white paints perform like top-quality brands!
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This Paint Trick Will Make CHEAP WHITE PAINT Cover + Hide As Well As The Most Expensive Brands!
There are a lot of white paint products on the market. Some are ready for use straight out of the can, and some need to be mixed with various tints and colorants.
To determine if a paint product needs to be mixed, just read the back or bottom of the label--there will often be a warning or notice. ("Base Paints," for instance, always need to be mixed with tints.)
For exterior repaint projects, Nick trusts Sherwin Williams Duration line--especially their "Super White" product, which has excellent coverage and hide qualities.
However, Duration is very expensive...often $80+ per gallon!
So, how can you get your basic, cheaper white paint products to function like a top-grade white paint? The key is adding a little more tint to the mixture, and in the white color/volume combination...
Nick recommends this mixture:
2 oz. White Tint + 1/32 oz. Black Tint per 1 Gallon White Paint
This extra tint combination will make cheaper white paint cover and hide as well as more superior white paint products. The additional colorants increase opacity and tone in the paint formula, meaning you can often cut out extra coats!
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When I buy Behr paint and I just need white, I always get it tinted to Behr’s color White 52. It doesn’t change the color but improves coverage. Learned that from my old boss.
Good tip, John!
Did he show you his
Behr is my favorite! Never has let me down.
🤔 I will use nothing but Behr because it's actual quality being foreals... I found a urethane exterior Marquee Emerald green can, and I almost want to bet it's a middle finger to Sherwin Williams emerald white claiming superior without asking Behr 😂
but this 52 tint, hmm sounds like a must try, because I don't like 3 coats if I don't have to, especially if the job has been discounted...
most of painting is prep and surface cleaning, paints will be paints, but Behr Marquee and I have a love thang lol. 👍
Thank you John. Now I know why my white Behr exterior didn't last very long.
Back in the 1980s we had a Coast to Coast old-school hardware store and they were fantastic! They would sell me their 'oops' paint for less than a $1 a gallon and color it any color I wanted for free! As a single Mom trying to spruce up an old cabin in the woods for me and my kids it was wonderful. I was so disappointed when a Wal-Mart came and put them out of business and of course did none of those things. Thanks for this great tip!
I work in the paint department at Home Depot and we can absolutely add this to ANY paint... just getting the right employee is how to get it done. So if you are told that they can't, well I assure you that it is doable and very very easy.
Thank you, brandy!
52 white 👍
I manage the paint dept at a Lowe's in the south Jersey region and yes it can be done. I gladly do it for my customers upon request.
I did this at Home Depot all the time
Here in Europe we don’t have to add anything to the paint ,all paint comes ready to use straight from the tin.Why do Americans have to complicate things
Painting Contractor of 35 yrs here. I'm also a big fan of Duration, but adding extra white does little to increase hide. Black, umber, and a small amount of blue are the 3 best tints to help whites hide. We've ran hundreds of tests over decades.
Thanks for the insight, Troy!
My dad was a painting contractor his whole life and would only use sherwin Williams paints. The difference between SW and Home Depot or other bargain paint is unimaginable. It seems more expensive but it’s really not when you fast forward 4-5 years later and the SW job still looks great and the bargain paint job is already fading, cracking and peeling.
I respectfully differ. I've been a residential remodeler for nearly 50 years, and also a follower of Consumer Reports since before that. My dad was a subscriber.
Sherwin Williams makes very good paint but not necessarily always superior.
Behr has out-tested them for many years in several categories. At one point, a few decades ago, even WalMart's latex offering tested better.
As mentioned, Sherwin Williams makes a great product, but the price tag per job is not necessary to get a quality result.
@@markgarland9000 looks like you're comparing apples and oranges.
I was a contractor for many years and added a defoamer to certain paints to prevent bubbles. I used white paint as a base and added tints for colors. The coverage was excellent. I found most paints can have poor coverage unless you pay thru the nose.
I would love to listen to a deeper dive into paint. My dad was an old school house painter who knew more about mixing colors than the guys at the local paint stores where we lived. Sadly he's been gone for over 30years and i wished I had paid more attention when I was growing up.
I bet he was a paint pro, James! It was basically hand-mixing back in the day, much knowledge required 🙂 We’ll discuss some of the modern techniques soon!
@@TheHonestCarpenter that would be great. Thanks!
"...listen to a deeper dive into paint." - All I could think of was something like "Sploosh". Ok, that's silly.
@@SynomDroni 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Me too
Great info! Always love when folks who have real knowledge of specific topics are willing to share them with the masses…it’s a kindness!
Always a well delivered video. Not once have I been disappointed.
Thank you, Stars! 😄
@@TheHonestCarpenter agreed... Your videos are to the point, and don't have a bunch of fluff, like so many others. Thank you for that.
This is a good example of why I subscribe to your channel. Thanks again.
🤗 THANKS ETHAN …a gentleman like Nick back in the 1970’s who was VERY KNOWLEDGEABLE AND EXPERIENCED IN PAINT who was in his 80’s back then and he told me that “THE BEST IS NONE TO GOOD…IF YOU CAN AFFORD IT “
So I bought the $80 equivalent and found out that it’s a savings in the long run and I also learned that it’s BETTER TO WORK SMARTER,NOT HARDER 🧐😁😍😍😍
So true, Budget! I’m going to do a video on the cheap paint vs. expensive paint conundrum 😄
Somehow most weekends, you know what I'm working on, and post a video related to it. Love it!
My contractor just finished painting my basement. I looked at the paint can and found it to be the same one you are referring to. Great!
I really enjoyed this video. It reminded me of the first time I went to get a specific paint color mixed. It was a Glidden color named "Soapstone" a very pale mushroom color. The paint guy put the first base white gallon in the tint carousel (old school) and started spinning, pulling almost every tint lever that circled by. I asked him if he knew what he was doing when he finished up with a squirt of ... lampblack ? .. mushroom .. really ?
Well, it was mushroom .. and that exterior paint showing off it's tint pedigree daily, as the house was literally a different color every day. Starting from every morning throughout changing evening sunset. Now that's how adding a little tint can cover better and stretch your paint.
Off topic, I am so impressed that your shop is so orderly and organized, Every item has a place so impressive !
Yes, i always think it looks too orderly. Everything has a place & is in it!
Sherwin Williams near me are the best! We actually have 3 with in 2 miles on the same main Rt. 2 have HOA colors but one has a bigger selection in store to buy or browse other products and equipment. The 3rd is for contractors and delivers to site etc...they will ship between them any product you need if one of them doesn't have the ability to mix what you need. I've been really happy with all of them and the sales people are knowledgeable and helpful. This came in when I was buying paint that had to be used on vinyl and asbestos siding. I even have my own paint color on file! Red brick barn :)
As a painting contractor of 19 years, I never use STRAIGHT white out of the can. I like to use 17-4 which is 4 parts of 17 (umber) per gallon. It still looks like bright white but improves coverage dramatically. In the big box stores like lowes or home depot, look in their fan deck and choose a really bright white. They will be able to produce any color in the fan deck if its their product line. Be very picky about what you chose though, its easy to think that its going to look great then be disappointed after using it.
Very informative..I mixed paint at a retailer for four years and was not taught this.
I push Benjamin Moore White Dove for Interior trim almost every job. It covers better than straight white and looks better than a straight white. It also goes better with warm wall colors. If someone picks a cool wall color we will maybe use Decorators white or plain white as well. We try to do the same with ceilings, trying to have warm or cool ceiling paints depending on wall colors chosen. Much of the time it depends on how much you can talk to your customer about this and not try to complicate your day or the job too much. The best customers are the ones who trust us to make the right call based on our reputation
Why umber over other tints?
I always have SW or HD add a few drops of black to my white paint. It also helps prevent the paint from yellowing. Learned this from my sister-in-law many years ago. Great video!
I always bust a fat nut in my white gallons . It helps eliminate brush stokes and drys rock hard
Experts always know the best products and way to accomplish things. So great that you have put together these videos using other discipline experts.
Another hack (for getting paint from a big box store) could be to find a color swatch that ends up being equivalent (or close) to the formulation of adding the additional white and black tint/pigment described in the video.
For any white, water based acrylic paint, the dollar store sells 4 oz. tubes of acrylic artist's acrylic paints in white and a variety of colours. Add 3 tubes of high pigment white acrylic and a few drops of black and coverage will be greatly improved. I've also heard of people adding and blending a full tube of acrylic caulking to a gallon of white acrylic paint to boost the pigment.
It's funny you should mention that...this morning I was caulking my exterior siding getting ready to paint and I used the Dynaflex Ultra in white. After a couple of minutes I was like - forget the paint, I need a 5 gallon bucket of this stuff and spread it with a putty knife. 😅
Perfect!
The dollar store tubes and bottles are a great resource and inexpensive.
When needing to patch up the worn and damaged top of a factory painted and "distressed" dining table, I sat down with a collection of these paints to work up a combination that would be a good color match. Clear notebook covers can be laid on the surface as a 'mixing board' until the desired color is reached. The touch-up paint is then directly applied.. and a clear coat to finish..and/or the new color can be added to a clear water based polyurethane as a finish glaze.
The dollar store paints make it very affordable.
@@markgarland9000 Cool! I like the idea of the clear acetate used as a mixing board to aid color matching to a surface.
The Dollar Store acrylics are great for matching acrylic wall & trim paints also.
Our cat had scratched the rather unique grayish-green trim that surrounds the archway between our living and dining room. Also, replaced a thermostat with with a smaller electronic thermostat on my burgundy dining room wall, which revealed a color difference. Both of these matches were made perfect with these cheap acrylic artist's colors.
Very, very interesting information. I guess I never thought about adding pigment or actually needing to add as my shopping is grab and go. I now realize that reading labels on the paint can is very important. Thanks for the great video and education. I look forward to learning more.
I learned about the black trick, to boost brightness and cover from a pro, retired Union painter back in 1971... it works!
When I needed a lot of white paint for my first house, I bought a five gallon pail of inexpensive white paint and added a gallon of Kilz. It worked great! Two coats on fresh drywall and it was good to go!
To do this, you needed to know about 'boxing' your paint. That's another thing that was taught in a school's art or woodworking classes. When they had them. I was lucky enough to have both art and woodworking. The art teacher covered it first, so when I was in wood shop I was able to answer the question before anybody else.
You should never put a non-drywall primer on drywall and spackle that wasn't primed. There is a reason why drywall primers are available. Flat paints don't have the ingredients that penetrate porous drywall and spackle.
I work in the paint center at Home Depot as well but we can manually enter a formula and mix a paint, usually in the paint match section. All of the new systems can, (as I have worked at Lowe’s and Ace hardware as well).
I have been painting for over 40yrs. Have used Glidden paint for most of my career. No problems here.
Great info on this subject. I worked for Pantone for 35 years so I knew about the adding tricks like pigments and oils etc. but didn't know certain smaller stores can go the extra mile and whip you up a batch of super white paint on the down-low ! 🤔
Does Pantone teach you guys color theory, etc.?
Funnily enough at school I used to get laughed at for adding a drop of white to the black paint we used in the art class. It made the black denser, less thin-looking. Some of them eventually realised it worked ! I never tried it the other way tho.
I was a paint tech, a little tint makes a massive difference in the cheapest of paints. Thank you for sharing
Keep on teaching us these things that we didn't know we did not know. I know I have used base white and wondered why it didn't cover well. Thanks 👍
I Haagen to use Duration on my ship lap home 2yrs ago. Stuff is Great! As always, I believe the prep work is as important than the paint. Seen to many houses in my neighborhood where people paint over chipped paint, then wonder why it didn’t stick.
I have gained so much knowledge from watching your channel. I love where your channel is heading and I’m so glade I’m along for the ride thanks
Thanks for supporting, Bradley! 😄
Good tip, I've been doing that for years through Home Depot with no problems. I even have add it to my primers, and I found if you add 3oz white tint per gallon to cheap maintenance paint it can be tinted to darker colors. I have them dump some of the paint out to make room for tint and never received any flack, God Bless!
Good call on the dumping some paint out, Mark. We’re going to discuss the ratio situation on our paint mixing video! 🙂
No way in hell would I do that for anybody! You're shooting yourself in the foot, & not even realizing WHY!
@@Wyn61 When you do work on small apartments from a slum lord, they insist on cheap paint you try to make it worth your while to use, so have the facts before you go on a frenzy, God Bless!
@@Wyn61 always good to see your comments!
@@markkleckner3060 -- Well thank God I don't pi** around with that crap!!! We don't even STOCK any "Contractor" cheap paints. Very little $$ in it. I prefer to MAKE money....
Great tips... I never thought to add additional tint to help with coverage. Cheap paint costs as much as good paint... either pay up front and do the job right, or re-coat and/or re-paint it several times with the cheap stuff. In the end the task either costs you in money or time or both.
Just when you think you have a reasonable idea about a subject - and then Ethan shows you so much more. Thanks! I was wondering what your paint expert thought of Benjamin Moore. I've used those products for decades (DIY)
Thanks, Dave! 😁 What I hear from pros is that BW and SW are really quite comparable. Some folks will have a preference, but they’ll also acknowledge that the other brand is high quality. So I think you’re good with Benjamin!
Ben Moore make great products that we love to use as well! We just happened to be close to a Sherwin-Williams store and it was convenient to swing in there instead. Here in NC there are a lot more Sherwin-Williams stores so it does make it easier for us and for our customers to use their products on a more frequent basis.
My dad was a SW diehard and you couldn't tear him away from it. That is until he tried BM because a customer was insistent on it. He was so impressed he started using both equally.
We've tried most things over the years and keep going back to SW. Just finished a job with all BM products and was reminded of why we don't like them. Advance requires almost twice as many coats to cover, it runs super easily, and it destroys brushes. Aura leaves heavy sag marks when rolling and doesn't brush the best. Regal is their best wall product and their ceiling paint is really great. They have better primers than SW. Just expect that any color with a deep or ultradeep base is going to spit boogers all over the wall when you roll.
@@indomitableson Exactly this. It's why I'll only use BM for exterior jobs. SW for interior.
im a professional painter for more than 40 years , i never use white paint ,can be pva, latex or gloss paints , i always tint with a few drops of black tinter ,never pour from the tint bottle use a small stick dip it into the black tint , that way you can control the drips from the stick to your white paint , it will appear white but technically it is not pure white anymore ,it helps with the covering and saves you paint time and money
2 oz. White Tint + 1/32 oz. Black Tint per 1 Gallon White Paint
I worked at a Lowes paint desk for years. The machines will do manual dispenses like this of colorant, as long as you know exactly how much you want. I've not run HD machines, but I'd be very surprised if they couldn't do it as well. Of course you have to get someone who knows their machine reasonably well (not always a sure thing when management thinks that any warm body can be stuck just about anywhere and forgotten) and not sound like you want something crazy. 🙂
Thanks for the inside scoop, craw! 😁
Thanks for the info….can be very challenging to actually find someone who knows what they’re talking about/doing at these big box stores. I’ve had to actually show quite a few where certain items were located.
Yes that is usually the issue customers run into when at the big box stores. Someone from plumbing or gardening are working behind the counter and really have no idea what is going on.
i spent 1 year in paint at lowes, can confirm. i used to manually tweak mixes all the time. 2y white 1 dot of black is all you need. we have a lot of wiggle and can color match easily with our machines. i used to train all our new guys with the tips and tricks. where i may have an up and down relationship at times, i can say they gave us a lot of variability when it comes to mixing paints.
@@serenetheslothqueen can be actually challenging to actually find someone. . . FTFY.
I'm totally amazed about how much I did NOT know about paint. Thank you.
I appreciate these informative videos on things I haven't thought about. Keep them coming.
That was by far the BEST tutorial on paint tinting I have ever seen. Thank you
Thanks, LT! 😄
It would be cool to hear from Nick about prepping paint for spraying. I have never had good results, and I can never tell if its the sprayer, the paint or my technique.
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Thanks so much, Bob! A while back I decided to stop watching virtually any DIY/handy/construction related videos (except occasional almost random ones). I thought it was the only way to not be unduly influenced by them. I definitely don’t regret that decision, and I think it frees me up to make whatever crosses my mind, or cover whatever I stumble upon in the field. I appreciate you watching and taking the time to write in with positive feedback! 🙂
Great advice. Been there, done that several years ago - I bought a 100% acrylic latex exterior paint clearance priced for $3 per gallon to use as white. Got the same type of paint at clearance from Walmart & their system would not let them add just white so off to the hardware store to pay them to tint it. I still save a bundle.
Over simplification but one of the main differences between cheap and premium paints is the amount of "solids" in the paint, ie the stuff that's left behind after the carrier evaporates off. It's those solids that provide the coverage. Increasing the tint content will help with coverage but you're still not getting all of the benefits of the more premium products, eg durability. Long term you'll generally be better off going for the more premium product if you can stretch your budget.
Correct. Lots of titanium dioxide as your white pigment. The cheap paints use cheap filler pigments.
For latex paint get it nice and warm maybe even hot like 100-125 deg F, you will get better coverage when you are working with almost any type of paint. when I use spray paint I heat the cans in a pot of hot water as hot as 150 deg F ( 65 C for you continental people) you get more pressure in can and better coverage and adhesion. Regarding making paint or primer give you better coverage. It looks like the white tint bass will cost as much or more than the paint? when buying paint I think it is a great idea to have them add extra white tint base for better coverage (and a dash of black when priming seems to help) to make the primer cover better and make top coat pop in most cases. I looked into buying Titanium Dioxide powder, unfortunately it is not soluble in water so you can't just add it. Note: an old time painter taught me 30 years ago, when comparing paints look for the one that has higher levels of Titanium Dioxide. Hope this info helps someone like it has me over the last 30 years
Mixer tip. Take a 1 gallon paint handle, nip the hook off one side, bend the remainder into something like a TV antenna and use with your power drill. Modify to taste.
if you store your paint upside down the pigment falls to the bottom (which is the top) and then when you go to use it and tip it right side up, the pigment falls again to the bottom but it will be falling through the paint and makes it easier to stir to proper mix as the pigment is in the top and middle.
Well, that's just great Ethan. All of these years I have been buying white paint and I just now learned that I have been doing it wrong this whole time.
I worked at a Lowe's paint desk for several years. Yeah, white paint is a standard base with a bunch of white tint mixed into it. There's room in a gallon of white to mix in an additional two to four ounces of tint, which is why it's the base for light colors, including all the light greys which are popular these days (Agreeable grey, etc, etc). As for programming the machines, we were able to manually add in any tint in any quantity we wanted. Reduce percentages, increase percentages, or whatever, but it took some experience with the equipment to learn all that. The average new hire who has been working the paint desk for two months isn't going to know how to do it.
my dad was a painter for 50 years and would have a few drops of black pigment mixed in. It would make the white paint cover so much better
My father owned a painting business and as long as I was alive he had contracts with Philips 66, Shell, Sohio/Boron (BP) etc. and traveled surrounding states, and he would put a shot of black. He always carried the old tint bottles in the wire carryall. Worked great, this is older than I am.
I own a few rentals and I'm always painting between tenants . Here's my hack for better coverage of cheap paint.
Take a few (3/4 for a gallon) heaping tablespoons of spackle and mix it into a thick slurry with water. Take the slurry and add it to any flat or eggshell paint or color. Get a small mixing bit, put it on a drill, and thoroughly mix the paint and the spackle slurry in the paint can. This will make the cheapest Walmart paint cover much better. it's perfect for stain-blocking or covering stupid colors. It also works well to make S/W paint samples usable.
The other coverage trick I use is for trim and it's simple. Before painting an area use a damp cloth to pre-moisten the area to be painted. Don't make it wet just damp. This will make the paint flow like magic, cover better, and as long as you're using a fine brush will leave no paintbrush lines.
Thanks Ethan. I have some trim work with stains showing through and I periodically have painted over the years to hide the stains only to have them show through again. I'm going to try this trick and see how well it works.
Try hitting it with an oil-based primer first, Robert! That stops a lot of tannin bleed-through.
However if you use oil-based and then a water-based paint on top it'll peel easily over time....
Stop adding layers of paint- it'll never help. You need a good *shelac-based* exterior stain-blocking primer. ZINSSER makes a couple good ones. BIN and Bullseye 1-2-3 but there are plenty of others out there (Kilz). You could even hit the knots with a few coats of pure untinted shelac before re-priming and painting.. Shelac cleans up with denatured alcohol - not water and not mineral spirits. It's compatible with almost any kind of topcoat imaginable alkyd or latex.
@@HBSuccess Zinser does not recommend the use of BIN or its shellac for exterior use, except for minimal spot priming of knots. Shellac is an absolute vapor barrier and is almost guaranteed to cause peeling if used as an exterior primer! Especially in Northern climes, you do not want a vapor barrier on the outside of the house. In warm, humid climes, such as Florida, a vapor barrier on the exterior is advisable.
I used to use Swp white till I found out Valspar covered better, but shortly after Valspar was bought out by SWP I noticed that the formula did not hide as well. Now I use PPG grand distinction or paramount. It covers very well, and I have tried top of the line Benjamin Moore Aura. PPG still seems the best at coverage. Behr is almost unhelpfully thick, hard to apply.
Old Yugoslavian painter taught me this. Excellent tip.
My brother's been a painter of high end homes for 40 years. When he needs to hide or prime a wall before the new color goes on, he pigments the paint with grey. So in effect, he primes a wall and it dries to a Dove Grey color. That hides for sure the previous color you need to get rid of. Then goes on the customer's color of choice. The primer does not need to be white.
This works! Painted a black wall white. Grey primer is the way to go!
I want to thank you for the amazing information you provide to your viewers. This is fascinating material. I appreciate all of your efforts. Many thanks!
I work for Lowes our paint department is a group of highly trained employees. We can do most anything with paint even with our computer controlled machines. They have a manual mode.
Thank you, Charlie! Do you feel like most of the stores in your general area operate as well as yours does?
Thank you so much, I have many old school ways from learning about automotive paint tinting. I also understand the appropriate way to tint This type of paint. When it comes to house paint? It is very different technique. I have crashed a little with latex. Learning the concept of latex and oils such as stain as well as paints. Is crucial for anyone involved especially for professionals. I will look forward for any other videos on this subject. Once again thanks so much Mr. Carpenter.👍
I just used the Glidden (GL6811) Semi-Gloss White (Base 1) Primer & Paint in one and it brushed very nice. Then I saw this video on Base 1 "Must Be Tinted" ran out and read the can and it doesn't require tint. Had me a little worried. Not sure what it would have done or looked like if it needed tint and I didn't use any, but all went well.
Very great easy imfo and comments here. wished I had easy videos like this 20-25 yrs ago:) I spent 10 yrs remodeling a lg home,knew painting,spraying 101 but mostly on metal! Lucked out or my usual way as you said find the best paint store and "stick" with it :)the ace store here ,the paint guy retired from sherwin williams and is a chemist, saved A LOT of $, but I also mis-tint returns ,not that picky about "exact colors, I often mixed a bolder color 1 to one with the best white so it makes a lighter shade of the color, or and am curious now what an experts think of this idea. I bought the high end ( for me then ) Kilz white primer and mixed it 50/50 with some of the paint to block a lot of the off color lumber I used in building sheds a playhouse,interior shops and laundry room and closets. it always worked to make an even color. people should see videos like this BEFORE talking with contractors :) would give them and edge and save a lot of $ thank you very helpful. Peace. Rick
Great video and content! Very helpful information. I work part time at our local ACE Hardware store and occasionally mix paint. We do have the ability to add these small amounts as you have described. Good information to pass along to our customers and to use for my own home projects. Thank you again for posting!
If a spot is really bad and has bled through the paint before, I shellac it first. There are shellacs with titanium white added to them and one good coat is usually enough. They dry very fast as long as the wall isn't cold. They are neither water nor oil based and can be used as a transition primer.
Great tip! Mom and pops stores have smiling people but box stores have empty boxes and plywood randomly laying around.
We don't add black but anytime someone wants to paint anything white we add 2oz of white or it will never have a chance at coating in 2. If you're going over a wall that has a higher sheen than egshel, satin, or low lustre, or you are going over green or red then you should consider hitting it with a primer first to stop that from coming through. Fresh coat from Ben Moore would be a good choice for that if you can get it.
Thanks, Firefly!
Superpaint is the best white out there for coverage brush and roll. One coat coverage if white on white repaint
I was a painting contractor for 14 years
I buy recycled paint. Yes. Recycled paint. It costs $5/gal for flat or low sheen white but covers like a $50/gal. What's the catch? It's recycled paint so it's not 100% consistent and it's adhesion to old paints, when not prepared correctly with a degreaser/cleaner and a light sand/stuffing, it is simply not as forgiving or as good as the $50/gal paint. There is a tiny sheen variability. I use these as a basecoat because the coverage is excellent. All this can be mitigated if you batch your cans into a 5 gal bucket. Apparently, recycled paints are area dependant: Some companies reclaim paint solids and remix them into batches. The brand I've found was "World Paint."
I'm just working on my own house at my own pace but for me, the larger amount of white pigment solids in this recycled paint is perfect for my needs and it's $5/gal.... five bucks!
I bought "recycled" paint 50 years ago. The paint store would buy factory rejects and would add the appropriate additives the manufactures left out. That's when I learned white pigments were the most expensive. It holds true today. A $200.00 toothbrush that comes in white or black, it's likely that the white version will be 5.00 more expensive then the black!
Universal tint is about $5.oo a bottle amazon or woodcrafters carries them. You could mix with a drill mixer for full mixing and best results.
Another trick is if you are priming do the same.thing with the white or I personally add extra black so I can tell the color difference when applying the top coats.
You can also tint Kilz in the same way and I tint it a few shades lighter than the finish coats. Just go the the pretty color wall pick one similar to your finish coats and ask the paint desk to tint it. I choose lighter with the primers because they aren't deep bases so you can't actually make them very dark.
hi there - i run a paint shop in nz and we have been doing this trick for at least 10 years now for trade guys - we even have a special label and we call it full cover white FCW or for 1 guy First Class White also FCW cheers
With Behr paint, have the Ultra Pure White tinted to their formula 1852 white. Its in their whites and neutrals catalog. Still bright white, but it covers in one coat! And yes, you can custom tint paints at Home Depot, as they have a manual dispense option on their machines. You just have to find an employee who is knowledgeable that will do it.
I work in the paint dept. at Home Depot. Thanks for mentioning that ! I'll pass that on to others.
Back in the 70's I made paint and other coatings for a living. Normally the coverage of the paint depends on the amount of titanium dioxide pigment in the paint. More pigment more hiding. Less pigment less hiding. Same goes for washability. More latex more washable. Less latex less able to withstand washing. Builders would buy 55 gallon drums of paint to paint cheap homes. The paint they bought had less pigment and less latex and that's the reason many new homes comes with paint that will wipe off the walls with a damp rag. Everyone likes a bargain but with paint you often get what you pay for. For me if I simply want to cover some project I find a place that sells mistinted paint at a low cost. You'll often find shades of green available.
thanks for the tip.I was wondering why 3 coats of expensive white paint and a coat of primer wasn't covering.
At SW, I get most trim tinted to “Duron white” or “914 white” with black added, especially for cheaper rentals and stuff. The Emerald Urethane also comes pre mixed in a version of this called “Hi-Hide white” I think
we've been using Kelly Moore products for years with great results. Their professional series give great coverage on interior walls and their dura poxy for doors, trim and baseboards is bullet proof. I put their products up to SW's anytime, And their staff is super helpful and courteous. My two cents.
I live in Portland, OR and I feel the same about Miller Paint here. They truly have knowledgeable people behind their counters and I they have never done me wrong.
i agree Dura poxy is awesome paint.
@@BrBill Unfortunately, Miller has gotten out of the paint developement business. They let go their entire research department. They are now privat labeling from other manufacturers.
Tried a lot of paints, SW Duration is now my go to paint- get with your local SW Rep for better pricing
I use the duration when I paint people's houses. I feel it works very well and covers alot.
I can't believe major brands like Behr have in FINE PRINT that you can't use it without tinting. I had no idea. Unreal.
You obviously can, but it will not cover well! However, some people want an extremely bright, clear white and Ultra Pure White will give that. i personally feel it is too bright and sterile. I would only use it when adjoining clear, pastel colors.
That’s a neat trick I haven’t heard mentioned in years. Looking forward to the paint mixing video as well!
Thanks, Jay!
@@TheHonestCarpenter thank you!
Fantastic! This could not have happened at a better time since I have to paint (and re-paint) some exterior areas this summer. Terrific...thanks. (I was wondering why the Behr I used outside wasn't wearing well...now I know.)
Everyone can benefit from these trade secrets and insider tips! Thank you, your videos are very much appreciated!
Since the early 80’s I’ve been using the formula B2W2Y for my white trim paint at SW. coverage was excellent even with pro mar 200.
Had no idea this needed to be done. The tinting process!!
So informative!
Another excellent video. I am looking forward to the full-length paint mixing video.
Thank you, Cameron! 🙂
@@TheHonestCarpenter Hey mate. What happened to the paint mixing video?
I found that PPG multipro white looks the best and is a solid color white, covers the most sqft per $16/gallon
Thank you! I painted my son’s ceiling a dark blue with metallic golden stars 20!years ago. This sounds as though it might require 5 coats less. :-/. (It was a lovely idea at the time, as he was really into space)
Thanks for short and to the point info and education. Helpful to know with paint projects around the house.👍
I was using SherwinWilliams super paint exterior when during the pandemic the grades of paint were in short supply . I was offered an upgrade to Duration because they were out of super paint. Although Duration may be excellent coverage the paint color changed completely over time, not matching at all the super paint version. The super paint remained grey green and the Duration turned a brown color.
Why do you add white? I was advised and used a "B1" and you can ask for a B2 which is basically a drop of black pigment in white to increase hide. It worked great on my ceiling. Home Depot in Cary knew exactly what I was looking for and mixed it.
Never knew this about paint! I really appreciate your tutorial. I will be looking at paint differently from now on!
I have worked for Home Depot in the paint department for 23 years. Our dispensing machines can add any increment of paint we want from oz. to 1/128 of an oz.
1/384th Richard!
Wish you would’ve made and released this video a couple of weeks ago.
We’ve been painting(repainting) a house our youth pastor just bought.
Someone donated a bunch of cheap white egg shell paint(5 gals and 1 gal interior paint) on some of the darker walls we are on a forth coat 🤦🏼♂️
The lighter walls took 3 coats.
I’m sure this tip would’ve saved us a lot of work.
Yep, doing a small trailer remodel project, what I wanted in cabinet paint was sold out by the quart and $95/gallon! I got a slightly lower quality finish and two quarts still set me back $80, but with luck and being miserly with it I can cover it all in one or two coats… I hope
I had exterior white semi gloss paint leftover so I used it on my upper Kitchen Cabinets. Figured if it was good enough to stand up to sun, cold and extreme heat it must be good for kitchen cabinets. So far so good, about a year now.
Holy Crap?!?! Who Knew!?!?! Thank you! Ethan, another well produced, informative video. Cheers!
This video was right on time! I close on my first house this Friday! One of the first things I want to do is change the color of the main exterior window trim and front door from the ugly TEAL color they decided to put on there to a nice WHITE lol
Congratulations on your new home!
I use behr semigloss white and get 10 shots of black mixed into it. It covers nicely for me
I used to use BM, but switched to Duration at the advice of my brother, a painting contractor. I love it. Yeah it's expensive but lasts so much longer, probably cheaper in the long run.
How you apply it can matter as well, but that takes experience. Believe it or not but you can take the cheapest paint you can find on the market, do the right prep work, apply it right and it will look like a million bucks.