+Cheat To Win Well, they did burn off many years at first on public TV to improve to the level we see here. At first, there was no chemistry. They realized it was better to ad-lib discussions and talk about the films and what they feel about them, rather than read from a script. The only part that was scripted was the plot description that was given with the clips.
What's also funny about this film is that at the time it came out, the Simpson murder case broke. That was sort of like this film, where a killer and his trial get a lot of overhyped publicity. Read Roger's review of the film and he talks about this.
I can’t say it was a foreign concept back then. I remember the paparazzi as a problem even back in the 80’s before this movie came out...in fact Morton Downey Jr had tapped into the weird side of human nature years before this came out.
Thank you for the uploads of Siskel & Ebert. Nothing today compares to the magic these men made critiquing movies. They made it so interesting because they loved what they did. RIP Gene & Roger.
I saw this once. On air. When I was very very young. I only remember now that I'm watching this. Which I've stumbled upon on youtube at 11pm. The reconciliation of the lost memory feels like a its being pulled into my prefrontal cortex by a freight train. Pretty cool.
I absolutely love this movie if only for it's camerawork and stylization. For example, the shootout in the restaurant is made so much better from the strange and surreal camera cuts to black and white and the repeated dialog. I really don't understand why this movie gets as much shit as it does.
This movie was so ahead of its time. I know reality TV was a "thing" back in 1994, but now we've seen so much sensationalism, until the last 10 years or so. The idea of Mickey and Mallory would be a HUGE thing in the age of the internet, right and left agenda-based news channels and the love for "reality" TV all across the world...
When I first watched this film, I started to feel insulted after awhile by the sensory-overloaded subliminal imagery that permeated throughout the movie. I felt like Oliver Stone was constantly in my ear going "Woooo have I BLOWN your MIIIIIIIIND yet?!?!?!?!" And this is coming from an acid casualty who is very likely on the autism spectrum somewhere. With that said, I don't think you could've made this movie in anything other than that style. It would just be any other ordinary crime-thriller; a grittier version of the Clint Eastwood/Kevin Costner film, "A Perfect World" perhaps. "Natural Born Killers" is very much in a league of its own, and there's not much else out there like it. I started to appreciate it a lot more after the 264th time I watched it.
I don't know how Sean Nelson didn't win an Oscar and more importantly how he didn't blow up to be the biggest actor in the world. He was absolutely AMAZING!
I like the part in Blankman where Blankman busts through a door and catches Bill Cosby raping an unconscious woman, then says, "Oh, sorry Mr. Cosby, I didn't see nothin'," then walks outside, gets in a car and drives away. Very true-to-life moment.
I have never understood this whole "drug enhances a viewing experience" thing. I find that I am distracted by irrelevant elements of a picture when I am high.
Lol the Columbine shooters loved that movie , I don't have the balls to take lsd and watch that , I had a friend watch that movie and wanted to go killing people lol I was like holy shit, some people's brains can't handle this movie especially kids
I think NBK is a masterpiece but I kind of get Gene's point. I don't personally dislike the 3rd act but I do understand it being a little bit conventional, especially considering that the 1st two acts are much of a surreal head trip.
I did think it was too goofy. I wish Stone had taken this with a more serious tone--like Tarantino had originally intended, but Stone was trying to make this more widely-seen--maybe to make a point. So it's technically a comedy. But... after all this time, it's point still stands. Maybe even more true.
Back in high school, one of the only assignments I ever did was an 8 page essay about Natural Born Killers. My teacher gave me an A but he wouldn't let me present it to the class because of the content
My favorite part of Natural Born Killers is the Third act, specifically the part where they take Robert DJ:s character captive. Did you notice all the camera angles? Overall in the movie are different camera angles, but in this scene it becomes obvious: not only are there different angels; there is also different frames, different colors, perspectives. This is the very definition of postmodernism, thus making Natural Born Killers a truly postmodern artwork: It is as if no single narrative can capture the "truth", which implies, there are no narrative able to capture anything in reality.
ben ashworth Absolutely. I loved JFK. I had seen that first. When NATURAL BORN KILLERS came-out, it was noted that Oliver Stone had indirectly inspired himself. All the quick-cutting that JFK had that effectively drew you into the story and wouldn't let you go was multipled by a thousand here. The effect, although numbing, was nonetheless compelling.
NBK was silly and dangerous.There are too many brain-dead young people who will take this film as a tutorial for murder rather than a warning. Stone changes Tarantino's script and the movie suffers dearly for it.
Sad when an actor's last film has to be a stinker like with Candy in Wagons East! I have a feeling at the time John was doing anything for money. He could've said no.
If NBK had been made about 10 years later we probably wouldn't have gotten such a great manic performance from Robert Downey Jr, since he was starting to come off his heavy drug use around that time. Not to belittle his talent, I l love the guy but some of his best stuff has been made when he was off his nuts. I dont think it ever affected his work except in Johnny B Goode and Hail Caesar. And SNL. Thank God he cleaned up his act a bit.
I read in Bob Crane Jr.'s book about his relationship with John Candy and why he picked this dumb script. He owed the studio a film and this shit had been sitting around.
At that time Tarrantino had only done Reservoir Dogs, wrote True Romance and Natural Born Killers. Tarrantino was not happy with Stones film, and Tarrantinos script was rewritten by Stone. Stone also did not want Tarrantino to take any credit away from his film. Pulp Fiction had yet to come out
Natural born killers to me is way too much style, with the satire-angle washed out by this red bleach of mindless violence. The critisism of the media has some clever and sadly accurate points, but overall the movie doesn't come together for me. It's not human enough to work as a satire.
It wasn't mindless they were abused children Mallory was molested by her Dad and her Mom ignored it. Mickey saved her. It was a love story. What was mindless was the media glamorizing the violence.
For me the satire was just too blunt and obvious. And Stone repeats the same basic point over and over again. It's not smart or insightful enough to justify the overall unpleasantness of the viewing experience.
Wish Tarantino ended up directing this instead of that hack, Oliver Stone! He ruined what could have been another Reservoir Dogs or Pulp Fiction. I guess Oliver tried to do his best imitation of him but it seriously fell short of what Quentin would have done with his own movie! Stone basically tried to rewrite the whole damn thing just to suit his own damn short comings. Lol
Oliver Stone is my favourite director of all time, and even I think NBK is borderline unwatchable, midlife crisis 90s vomit. It's so ridiculously dated it's laughable. Unbelievable that he made the masterpiece JFK only three years earlier.
I can't help but wonder if the movie could be released today without groups of pissed off people protesting the violence in it . Hindsight is 20/20 and more and more people are aware of just how sick the people are in Hollywood and what their true intentions and motives are . If you don't have a clue you need to do your homework .
There's a little cartoon character that pops up....ridiculous as the entire movie is a live motion cartoon. It makes its point in the first 20 minutes and then beats you over the head for the rest of the movie. Ugly and overcooked, this is likely Oliver Stone's worst movie.
I'm no Tarantino fan-boy, but it's pretty obvious if he had directed his own script it would have been way better as a story. As made by Stone, the story and performances look like a totally idiotic and coke-fueled pile of shit. That said, props to Stone for going crazy with the stylized photography and editing. For that reason and that reason alone, this reviewer gives it…. 1 thumb up.
mightisright Oliver Stone did the Script and Tarantino did the Story. The details of what words actually came out of the Actors mouths are based on the Script.
The Rodney stuff wasn't in Quentin's script..That is all Stone,,,but the whole interview with Wayne and Micky was ALL quentin's words. The whole "Im a Natural born killer " speech..Stone added the Rodney stuff and the Indian stuff. most of the dialogue in all the other scene's was written by QT
Well they are smarter than you because as other have pointed out the scenes with Rodney Dangerfield were worth the price of admission alone . The amazing imagery , tone, message and the biting satire of modern media was spot on.
@@rosselliswilkinson They were on another level, true. I also like Steven Wright as the psychiatrist "I never really pay artention to anything women say" lol
I didn't like "NBK" when I originally saw it back then...I thought it was an overstuffed variation on "Bonnie & Clyde" that went into extreme visual overload, as Ebert put it. But now i'd like to watch it again and get what I missed
I just gotta say that Siskel & Ebert are some real beautiful thinkers.
+Cheat To Win Well, they did burn off many years at first on public TV to improve to the level we see here. At first, there was no chemistry. They realized it was better to ad-lib discussions and talk about the films and what they feel about them, rather than read from a script. The only part that was scripted was the plot description that was given with the clips.
sha11235 I was just thinking that they have great chemistry.👍👍
Siskel and Ebert foreshadowing TMZ with their assessment of shock TV in Natural Born Killers.
What's also funny about this film is that at the time it came out, the Simpson murder case broke. That was sort of like this film, where a killer and his trial get a lot of overhyped publicity. Read Roger's review of the film and he talks about this.
I would have liked to see these guys review Nightcrawler from 2014.
I can’t say it was a foreign concept back then. I remember the paparazzi as a problem even back in the 80’s before this movie came out...in fact Morton Downey Jr had tapped into the weird side of human nature years before this came out.
Robert Downey Jrns character is based of the australian host of Hard Copy(late 80s-90s)
Thank you for the uploads of Siskel & Ebert. Nothing today compares to the magic these men made critiquing movies. They made it so interesting because they loved what they did. RIP Gene & Roger.
Fresh was such an awesome movie. It's so hard to not cry at the end. The kid is a great actor and did a great job of carrying the movie on his back.
I've never heard Natural Born Killers introduced so jovially before
I saw this once. On air. When I was very very young. I only remember now that I'm watching this. Which I've stumbled upon on youtube at 11pm. The reconciliation of the lost memory feels like a its being pulled into my prefrontal cortex by a freight train. Pretty cool.
Yep, Natural Born Killers is a masterpiece
That TV ad for the VHS release of Tombstone makes it look like a cheap exploitation film.
Its a shame that the only existing Siskel & Ebert clips are all lo-fi VHS recorded crap quality. They deserve SOOOOOO much better.
I absolutely love this movie if only for it's camerawork and stylization. For example, the shootout in the restaurant is made so much better from the strange and surreal camera cuts to black and white and the repeated dialog. I really don't understand why this movie gets as much shit as it does.
This movie was so ahead of its time. I know reality TV was a "thing" back in 1994, but now we've seen so much sensationalism, until the last 10 years or so. The idea of Mickey and Mallory would be a HUGE thing in the age of the internet, right and left agenda-based news channels and the love for "reality" TV all across the world...
The very idea of glorifying serial killers.
Basically the movie gets that much shit because Tarantino hated it and his army of fanboys agree with anything their lord says.
MrGenexxx he's the Eminem of the film world lmao.
When I first watched this film, I started to feel insulted after awhile by the sensory-overloaded subliminal imagery that permeated throughout the movie. I felt like Oliver Stone was constantly in my ear going "Woooo have I BLOWN your MIIIIIIIIND yet?!?!?!?!" And this is coming from an acid casualty who is very likely on the autism spectrum somewhere. With that said, I don't think you could've made this movie in anything other than that style. It would just be any other ordinary crime-thriller; a grittier version of the Clint Eastwood/Kevin Costner film, "A Perfect World" perhaps. "Natural Born Killers" is very much in a league of its own, and there's not much else out there like it. I started to appreciate it a lot more after the 264th time I watched it.
I don't know how Sean Nelson didn't win an Oscar and more importantly how he didn't blow up to be the biggest actor in the world. He was absolutely AMAZING!
I like the part in Blankman where Blankman busts through a door and catches Bill Cosby raping an unconscious woman, then says, "Oh, sorry Mr. Cosby, I didn't see nothin'," then walks outside, gets in a car and drives away. Very true-to-life moment.
Oh man I love Wagons East! Loved seeing John Candy and was so sad when he passed.
I hope your critical tastes grow up eventually. That film was junk.
NBK is a great movie to watch on LSD. All of the different editing cuts and photography tricks play perfectly to a tripping mind.
I have never understood this whole "drug enhances a viewing experience" thing. I find that I am distracted by irrelevant elements of a picture when I am high.
Lol the Columbine shooters loved that movie , I don't have the balls to take lsd and watch that , I had a friend watch that movie and wanted to go killing people lol I was like holy shit, some people's brains can't handle this movie especially kids
@@austinhealey1120 Mo movie ever made anybody kill anybody. The Bible on the other hand....
I think NBK is a masterpiece but I kind of get Gene's point. I don't personally dislike the 3rd act but I do understand it being a little bit conventional, especially considering that the 1st two acts are much of a surreal head trip.
I did think it was too goofy. I wish Stone had taken this with a more serious tone--like Tarantino had originally intended, but Stone was trying to make this more widely-seen--maybe to make a point. So it's technically a comedy. But... after all this time, it's point still stands. Maybe even more true.
Back in high school, one of the only assignments I ever did was an 8 page essay about Natural Born Killers. My teacher gave me an A but he wouldn't let me present it to the class because of the content
My favorite part of Natural Born Killers is the Third act, specifically the part where they take Robert DJ:s character captive. Did you notice all the camera angles? Overall in the movie are different camera angles, but in this scene it becomes obvious: not only are there different angels; there is also different frames, different colors, perspectives. This is the very definition of postmodernism, thus making Natural Born Killers a truly postmodern artwork: It is as if no single narrative can capture the "truth", which implies, there are no narrative able to capture anything in reality.
Robert Richardson,baby...now he works mostly on Marty and quentin's flicks. if you liked THIS movie because all of that stuff, you must love JFK.
ben ashworth Absolutely. I loved JFK. I had seen that first. When NATURAL BORN KILLERS came-out, it was noted that Oliver Stone had indirectly inspired himself. All the quick-cutting that JFK had that effectively drew you into the story and wouldn't let you go was multipled by a thousand here. The effect, although numbing, was nonetheless compelling.
Picking up the newspapers to read reviews.
NBK was a great movie.
I remember seeing this at the cinema when it first came out.
Loved it.
"Fresh" - that movie was lit.
I love the story although I sometimes wish it had been directed by it's author Tarantino.
Oliver Stone did a great job though.
I watched this on shrooms AND acid... ... no lie... it has been UNFORGETTABLE ever since.
Glad my friend d's and I aren't the only ones
I first watched it on shrooms.. ha ha ha...fxxkin mind-blowing....
I wish Candy had done more serious roles. Candy never made me laugh ....EVER. But he delivered a terrific serious performance in JFK.
Planes, trains & automobiles
The late Robert Schimmel was in Blankman. I noticed that when I first saw this clip in 1994.
Bob was a writer for "In Living Color" for awhile, and got to know the Wayans Bros.
natural born killer was great
I loved it too.
@TAB LOL yeah because they all watched this movie, stfu!
NBK was silly and dangerous.There are too many brain-dead young people who will take this film as a tutorial for murder rather than a warning. Stone changes Tarantino's script and the movie suffers dearly for it.
If John had lived to see Wagons East! I think he would've dropped dead of a heart attack then.
Ebert was right, NBK is a masterpiece.
I'd be interested to see that Guilty Pleasures episode.
Sad when an actor's last film has to be a stinker like with Candy in Wagons East! I have a feeling at the time John was doing anything for money. He could've said no.
Never heard of Fresh. I'm surprised Siskel liked Blankman. It looked funny to me.
Cliff Slatterly I have heard of it. And it was on Roger's ten best list of 1994.
+Cliff Slatterly
Siskel always did have bad taste in comedies...
Well, sometimes, The, you just have to be in the right frame of mind. Siskel liked Mrs. Doubtfire. Ebert unbelievably didn't.
Cliff Slatterly
Touche'...
Siskel, and Ebert for that matter, enjoyed all three Naked Gun movies as well.
I love the nostalgia. Not my love for my favorite critics ever, but I miss using the tracking button.
Blankman is pure genius.
I did a video chat with Thomas Ian Nicholas on Rookie of the Year
NBK is a masterpiece
Like the tombstone home video ad. Fresh is a good movie.
NBK is the best movie visually for my money
If NBK had been made about 10 years later we probably wouldn't have gotten such a great manic performance from Robert Downey Jr, since he was starting to come off his heavy drug use around that time. Not to belittle his talent, I l love the guy but some of his best stuff has been made when he was off his nuts. I dont think it ever affected his work except in Johnny B Goode and Hail Caesar. And SNL. Thank God he cleaned up his act a bit.
One of my top 5 all time favorites. RDJ at his best. Too bad he was probably coked out of his skull.
Repetition works, babe.
I read in Bob Crane Jr.'s book about his relationship with John Candy and why he picked this dumb script. He owed the studio a film and this shit had been sitting around.
NBK was alright, A Clockwork Orange and Blue Velvet were better.
Hugo Soup all some of the best movies ever made.
And just think -- twenty-five years later, a simliar satire would overtake the White House.
Fresh is fantastic.
Was it a secret that Quentin Tarantino wrote Natural Born Killers?
At that time Tarrantino had only done Reservoir Dogs, wrote True Romance and Natural Born Killers. Tarrantino was not happy with Stones film, and Tarrantinos script was rewritten by Stone. Stone also did not want Tarrantino to take any credit away from his film. Pulp Fiction had yet to come out
NBK is a total winner!
NBK 👍⭐⭐⭐⭐
Fresh 👍⭐⭐⭐
Blankman 👎⭐
Wagon East 👎⭐⭐
Natural born killers to me is way too much style, with the satire-angle washed out by this red bleach of mindless violence. The critisism of the media has some clever and sadly accurate points, but overall the movie doesn't come together for me. It's not human enough to work as a satire.
+Angelus well said
***** Thank you.
It wasn't mindless they were abused children Mallory was molested by her Dad and her Mom ignored it. Mickey saved her. It was a love story. What was mindless was the media glamorizing the violence.
For me the satire was just too blunt and obvious. And Stone repeats the same basic point over and over again. It's not smart or insightful enough to justify the overall unpleasantness of the viewing experience.
@@pauljohnson7548 Exactly.
miss em
Yeah, I watched them every week and loved it when some of their reviews got memorable.
Tarantino should watch this review. NBK (the movie) is brilliant.
NBK is a masterpiece and has only gotten better with age. Sadly, All Wagons East is a terrible movie for the one and only John Candy.
Couple of good ideas???
Fresh was great.
steven hochlander agreed I must see it again. Believe it or not I saw Fresh opening day at the AMC Burbank,
Wish Tarantino ended up directing this instead of that hack, Oliver Stone! He ruined what could have been another Reservoir Dogs or Pulp Fiction. I guess Oliver tried to do his best imitation of him but it seriously fell short of what Quentin would have done with his own movie! Stone basically tried to rewrite the whole damn thing just to suit his own damn short comings. Lol
I warned you Susan!
Oliver Stone is my favourite director of all time, and even I think NBK is borderline unwatchable, midlife crisis 90s vomit. It's so ridiculously dated it's laughable. Unbelievable that he made the masterpiece JFK only three years earlier.
i hated nbkillers and never finished it, but can see why others liked it. its not for me
Sooo...was THE ADVOCATE supposed to be a comedy?
I can't help but wonder if the movie could be released today without groups of pissed off people protesting the violence in it . Hindsight is 20/20 and more and more people are aware of just how sick the people are in Hollywood and what their true intentions and motives are . If you don't have a clue you need to do your homework .
I give their performances in that opening sequence two thumbs down.
I liked NBK, but Kalifornia is better
There's a little cartoon character that pops up....ridiculous as the entire movie is a live motion cartoon. It makes its point in the first 20 minutes and then beats you over the head for the rest of the movie. Ugly and overcooked, this is likely Oliver Stone's worst movie.
Stupid violent movie. Gave me a migraine. The fact it sucked is proved by how it has disappeared
I'm no Tarantino fan-boy, but it's pretty obvious if he had directed his own script it would have been way better as a story. As made by Stone, the story and performances look like a totally idiotic and coke-fueled pile of shit. That said, props to Stone for going crazy with the stylized photography and editing. For that reason and that reason alone, this reviewer gives it…. 1 thumb up.
mightisright Oliver Stone did the Script and Tarantino did the Story. The details of what words actually came out of the Actors mouths are based on the Script.
The Rodney stuff wasn't in Quentin's script..That is all Stone,,,but the whole interview with Wayne and Micky was ALL quentin's words. The whole "Im a Natural born killer " speech..Stone added the Rodney stuff and the Indian stuff. most of the dialogue in all the other scene's was written by QT
Tarantino wrote his original screenplay and the whole thing was re-written by Stone and his people.
there really is not ONE laugh in wagons east. probably the worst mainstream film ever made. torturous
Blank man. Ahh ok.hell. ha ha ha.
I think Natural Born Killers is garbage.
Omar Gonzalez go back to your Tarantino trash you moron.
Natural Born Killers is overrated.
slaythegodz i'm agree with you on that
Anthony D fuck yourself
morgan8757 my butt aint gonna suck itself
Anthony D go fuck yourself
Anthony D up yours
Can't believe they liked NBK so much as it was a stupid and annoying movie ...
Well they are smarter than you because as other have pointed out the scenes with Rodney Dangerfield were worth the price of admission alone . The amazing imagery , tone, message and the biting satire of modern media was spot on.
Piggy-Pike Yawn ... I fucking hate Rodney Dangerfield. It's a stupid movie. That is all.
"Stupid and annoying"
Incisive stuff.
Incredible critique.
@@Piggy-Oink-Oink Dangerfileds scenes are the highlight of the movie for me
@@rosselliswilkinson They were on another level, true. I also like Steven Wright as the psychiatrist "I never really pay artention to anything women say" lol
Stone hasn't done much good since Platoon, some directors should stick to what they know best.
What about JFK?
JFK, Born on the 4th of July, Any Given Sunday. You're an idiot.
I didn't like "NBK" when I originally saw it back then...I thought it was an overstuffed variation on "Bonnie & Clyde" that went into extreme visual overload, as Ebert put it. But now i'd like to watch it again and get what I missed