I am just recently finding this channel! THANK YOU for this info! I'm moving from EDFs to my 1st turbine (HSD F-16) and will be looking for this size turbine pretty soon. I will be watching this video several times (more). So much great info here, and other videos. Keep 'em coming!
Glad you found it Richard! Congratulations on making the step! It’s a fun a challenging one but boy is the sound, smell etc addicting! Thanks for watching!😎
Planning on buying one next week. Excellent video. Really impressed with the acceleration and the sort of failed flameout test! Now I'm totally convinced.
Great Vid , as usual , Jon !! Think i've found a new Turbine , for my Panther !! Love the way , we can hear Katie . in the background ........AND GO !! cheers buddy Phil
Great video. Looks like a great engine.... I love the orange Extra in the background. I have one just like it. It used to be my favouite airplane and still works great!
Thanks Ted! That was my very first plane! I was flying Heli’s. Bought that to mess around with and that’s what started it! I should get it back in the air but the V stab is snapped.
Hi Jonathan, I would like to thank you for taking time to do the research for the comparison of the two turbines engine’s. That has really helped me out with my decision. I was amazed with the auto startup. Could you see a lot of air bubbles making it to the turbine? If so did you notice if there was any loss of revs during that time amazing. Thanks again Andrew. Keep up the good work.
Hey Andrew! You bet! Thanks for watching! It’s like the engine had no idea there were air bubbles at all! I have witnessed many engines shut off or huge drops in RPM when they got a bubble. Not the Swiwin at all!
attatch some wings to that table, strap it on your back and you got a self flying machine 😂. Amazing video btw this was one of the best reviews I have ever seen, you explain everything so well.
Great review! I wish these companies started producing smaller sized turbofans lol, I know someone who is working on a 420 pound turbofan that is only 23 pounds and uses around 85oz a minute. Im hoping that kind of efficiency comes to these smaller type turbojet engines some day by producing them as turbofans.
I’m thinking about buying a Turbinator 2 for my first jet. I bought a Frsky transmitter because of your channel and it’s been a perfect transmitter, no signal loss so far. Do you think this would be a good reliable first turbine?
Thanks 😊. There has been talk of a 45 but Swiwin is currently focused on the UAV military market with their larger turbines. So yes. It is/was in the works. Not sure when though
The only confusion in your video is that the engine is rated as an 80-newton engine and indicated in any ad description as performing at 17+ pounds however in your test it's performing more like a 60 newton engine? Do you think your scale needed calibration or did the engine need an software update?
I mention it over and over in every video. At sea level at 15c you will get specified performance. As temps increase and elevation increases the thrust out put decrease. We are at 3200 ft ASL so on a 30c day we will se about 25% decrease in thrust.
Hello Jim. Right now any warranty work that doesn't require balancing it can be handled by us. Working towards being a full Canadian Service center. Swiwin engines are manufactured in China.
Thanks for your video. I am seriously considering the AF black and red MB 339 and a swiwin SW 60B or SW 80B. Broth are available from Banana Hobby. I believe they ship all necessary extras to get in the air. Do you suggest the 60 or the 80. I am not a fast flyer and have 47 flights withe AF 105 mm MB 339 and AL 37. Thank you and have a good evening
The 80 and 60 are the same physical size. I would always suggest the 80 as it’s nice to have the power of you ever need it. Bit more money but worth it.
@@thelightersideofrc Thank you for your very quick reply. You helped me make up my mind. I fly the MB 339's and L 39's on 2 6000 6 packs. They seem heavy, would the SW 80 and fuel for 5 minutes make the jet a lot heavier?
Wow, 2.6 seconds from idle to full throttle is nuts! Does adding those points to lower the acceleration time put any additional wear and tear on the engine?
Yea it is crazy! Impressive little turbine! The real concern with fast acceleration is you can get flameouts if you set it too aggressive. Additional wear and tear no.
Hi TLSORC, I have been told not to touch the acceleration settings as it disturbs the turbine running in whole. However, I do prefer increasing the acc as it helps me increase my throttle response time. When I increase my acc points, how would I know at which points should I stop? And finally, if I adjust the acc levels to a comfortable level on the ground, will this change when I'm in the air, as the turbine spools differently in flight then Compared to the ground? TIA
Of course you can adjust the ACC settings. If you set it safe then you probably don’t need to touch it again. If you set it aggressive in cooler dry weather and it gets very hot and humid you may have to adjust it or you risk a flame out. As a safe number I generally shoot for about 4 seconds. So if it’s at 25 and on the Home Screen you do an acceleration and it ends up at 5.2 seconds. Go to 30. At 30 if it’s 4.1 seconds I would stick with that. If you go to 35 and it’s getting 3.4 seconds your getting aggressive. It may be ok but your risking a flameout on accelerating. You have to listen to how the turbine sounds when accelerating as well. The acc and Dec numbers are the only value you can change while the turbine is running
Appreciate the reply. A quick question, if the ACC out of the box comes in at 3.6 secs for example, would you bring the ACC up to get 4 secs or so or would you leave it at the factory setting?
I would bump it up to 4.0-4.5. 3.6 may be ok on cooler days. Low humidity and lower elevations but you have a higher risk of a flameout at that number.
Depends on what brand of turbine. I generally mix 20L of Fuel with 1L of Oil. so that's 5%. As far as oil is concerned, follow the turbine manufactures recomendation.
Depends on the manufacture. On the Swiwin lineup it’s the same pump for them all. The larger ones are plumbed different than the smaller turbines. Some manufacturers will use different pumps for the different turbines
Tôi đang phân vân về vấn đề âm thanh , liệu bạn có thể cho tôi biết kingtech k45 và sw80b . Chiếc động cơ nào cho âm thanh to hơn được không. Cảm ơn bạn
Does anyone fly rc with onboard cameras? I always wanted to get into the hobby just always had a hard time with reversing controls when the plane is coming towards you.
There are legal issues with that, in lots of EU it's straight forbidden to fly fpv anything heavier than 250g, direct visual contact only. Despite of common expectations flying fpv is not necessary easier, it messes up apparent distances and one strong gust of wind is enough to mess with your spatial awareness for a second and in a monster RC moving 80kmh that's enough time to plough into someone's kid. Fpv is fine for drones and foamies, keep it away from big RC.
Fpv is legal in the us, thing is I was always a simulator type of guy, used to flying and judging distance without depth perception, I get the concern on spatial awareness,
@@thelightersideofrc LOLOL you arent a bad influence AT ALL hahaha Ya know I've already thought it through lol....new servos, some reinforcing in a couple critcal places lol ya know...the typical for rc madness lolol
@@thelightersideofrc It will fit...I already know hahaha Fuel consumption may be tricky for tank size vs space available BUT! There are solutions(there's a mounting kit) lol...yes i have planned a little..you don't simply just walk into Mordor as it were lol It
This amazing little engine and the whole SWIWIN Lineup can be purchased here: www.thelightersideofrc.com/shop
I have that engine for over a year now and love it. Have had no issues with it so far
Awesome 😎. Great to hear Brad! Thanks for watching!
I am just recently finding this channel! THANK YOU for this info! I'm moving from EDFs to my 1st turbine (HSD F-16) and will be looking for this size turbine pretty soon. I will be watching this video several times (more). So much great info here, and other videos. Keep 'em coming!
Glad you found it Richard! Congratulations on making the step! It’s a fun a challenging one but boy is the sound, smell etc addicting! Thanks for watching!😎
Planning on buying one next week. Excellent video. Really impressed with the acceleration and the sort of failed flameout test! Now I'm totally convinced.
Great decision!
So excited just ordered 2 140s can’t wait for them to arrive !!!! Thanks 😊 Jonathan!!!!!
Right on! 🙌😎
Great Vid , as usual , Jon !!
Think i've found a new Turbine , for my Panther !!
Love the way , we can hear Katie . in the background ........AND GO !!
cheers buddy
Phil
Awesome Phil! Thanks for watching!
Nice to see you do the review on this engine. I'm sold on it.
thanks 😊. Yea it’s a phenomenal little engine! As you can tell in the video it preformed way better than I had expected!
Best turbine rewiew i have ever seen 😀👍 Thanks. And i have just bought a sw80 looking forward to try i out
Thanks!
Great video. Looks like a great engine.... I love the orange Extra in the background. I have one just like it. It used to be my favouite airplane and still works great!
Thanks Ted! That was my very first plane! I was flying Heli’s. Bought that to mess around with and that’s what started it!
I should get it back in the air but the V stab is snapped.
@@thelightersideofrc That is funny, it was my first plane as well. I was a bit rough on it, but it still flies well!
Hi Jonathan,
Excellent test of the SW80. Like how you recovered when the clamp fell off during the fuel test run. You and Katie stay safe.
Hey Don! 😂 haha. Yea it was a shocker!😳. Thanks for watching!
I think its amazing just watching the fuel level drop in that full throttle test.
HAHA! Yea! I was testing and adjusting some 300's for a customer this week. Those things are fuel guzzlers!!!!!😳
Awesome video. Informative and thorough.
Much appreciated!
Excellent video as always Jonathan, keep them coming👍
Thanks 👍. Thanks for watching!
Sweet! What a great little turbine.👍
It sure is! Thanks for watching!
HI Jonathan, awesome, with this turbine, you can fly with the table ( with 2 wings more ). you are the best lol
Thanks Philippe! Yea it almost took off by itself!😂😂😂😂
Hi Jonathan,
I would like to thank you for taking time to do the research for the comparison of the two turbines engine’s. That has really helped me out with my decision. I was amazed with the auto startup. Could you see a lot of air bubbles making it to the turbine? If so did you notice if there was any loss of revs during that time amazing.
Thanks again Andrew. Keep up the good work.
Hey Andrew! You bet! Thanks for watching! It’s like the engine had no idea there were air bubbles at all! I have witnessed many engines shut off or huge drops in RPM when they got a bubble. Not the Swiwin at all!
Jonathan your awesome man.
Thank you very much!
attatch some wings to that table, strap it on your back and you got a self flying machine 😂. Amazing video btw this was one of the best reviews I have ever seen, you explain everything so well.
Thanks 😊. I appreciate the kind words and thanks for watching
Great 👍 little turbine 👌
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Wow I didn’t know JR Propo was still around!
Yes. Not as popular as in the past.
@@thelightersideofrc I still have a KO Propo lol!
Very well done.
Thank you kindly!
Nice engine, its awesome, greetings from Remi from Belgium
Thanks Remi for watching!
Just amazing
Thanks and thanks for watching!
I'm impress with the swiwin
Yes 👍. Me too!😎
going to be awesome
YEA!!!!!
Great review! I wish these companies started producing smaller sized turbofans lol, I know someone who is working on a 420 pound turbofan that is only 23 pounds and uses around 85oz a minute. Im hoping that kind of efficiency comes to these smaller type turbojet engines some day by producing them as turbofans.
Thanks 😊. Yea that is really the next step in efficiency for sure!
I’m thinking about buying a Turbinator 2 for my first jet. I bought a Frsky transmitter because of your channel and it’s been a perfect transmitter, no signal loss so far. Do you think this would be a good reliable first turbine?
Great first aircraft! If you can go a bit bigger it will be easier to fly but no problems with the Turbinator!
Nice test. However this turbine is putting out 25% less thrust than expected. Even with your altitude compensation is low.
Remember James it's not just altitude that effects it. It's all the other factors (Temp, etc, etc)
@@thelightersideofrcI think your both right
Great channel!! Do you know if any turbines smaller that the 60 are in the works ie. 30N or 45N? Thanks!
Thanks 😊. There has been talk of a 45 but Swiwin is currently focused on the UAV military market with their larger turbines. So yes. It is/was in the works. Not sure when though
The only confusion in your video is that the engine is rated as an 80-newton engine and indicated in any ad description as performing at 17+ pounds however in your test it's performing more like a 60 newton engine? Do you think your scale needed calibration or did the engine need an software update?
I mention it over and over in every video. At sea level at 15c you will get specified performance. As temps increase and elevation increases the thrust out put decrease. We are at 3200 ft ASL so on a 30c day we will se about 25% decrease in thrust.
Great video. If it needs warranty work does it go to Canada? And is it Manf. in Canada? Thank
Hello Jim. Right now any warranty work that doesn't require balancing it can be handled by us. Working towards being a full Canadian Service center. Swiwin engines are manufactured in China.
Thanks for your video. I am seriously considering the AF black and red MB 339 and a swiwin SW 60B or SW 80B. Broth are available from Banana Hobby. I believe they ship all necessary extras to get in the air. Do you suggest the 60 or the 80. I am not a fast flyer and have 47 flights withe AF 105 mm MB 339 and AL 37. Thank you and have a good evening
The 80 and 60 are the same physical size. I would always suggest the 80 as it’s nice to have the power of you ever need it. Bit more money but worth it.
@@thelightersideofrc Thank you for your very quick reply. You helped me make up my mind. I fly the MB 339's and L 39's on 2 6000 6 packs. They seem heavy, would the SW 80 and fuel for 5 minutes make the jet a lot heavier?
You should review the brand new Xicoy X90, it's smaller and lighter and makes even more power.
Send me one and I will happily review 😊😉
Wow, 2.6 seconds from idle to full throttle is nuts! Does adding those points to lower the acceleration time put any additional wear and tear on the engine?
Yea it is crazy! Impressive little turbine! The real concern with fast acceleration is you can get flameouts if you set it too aggressive. Additional wear and tear no.
Hi TLSORC,
I have been told not to touch the acceleration settings as it disturbs the turbine running in whole. However, I do prefer increasing the acc as it helps me increase my throttle response time.
When I increase my acc points, how would I know at which points should I stop?
And finally, if I adjust the acc levels to a comfortable level on the ground, will this change when I'm in the air, as the turbine spools differently in flight then Compared to the ground?
TIA
Of course you can adjust the ACC settings. If you set it safe then you probably don’t need to touch it again. If you set it aggressive in cooler dry weather and it gets very hot and humid you may have to adjust it or you risk a flame out.
As a safe number I generally shoot for about 4 seconds. So if it’s at 25 and on the Home Screen you do an acceleration and it ends up at 5.2 seconds. Go to 30. At 30 if it’s 4.1 seconds I would stick with that. If you go to 35 and it’s getting 3.4 seconds your getting aggressive. It may be ok but your risking a flameout on accelerating.
You have to listen to how the turbine sounds when accelerating as well.
The acc and Dec numbers are the only value you can change while the turbine is running
Appreciate the reply.
A quick question, if the ACC out of the box comes in at 3.6 secs for example, would you bring the ACC up to get 4 secs or so or would you leave it at the factory setting?
I would bump it up to 4.0-4.5. 3.6 may be ok on cooler days. Low humidity and lower elevations but you have a higher risk of a flameout at that number.
How to mix oil on diesel and what kind of oil i need too add
Depends on what brand of turbine. I generally mix 20L of Fuel with 1L of Oil. so that's 5%. As far as oil is concerned, follow the turbine manufactures recomendation.
You have coupons for turbines
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Compare kingtech what is your opinion I am confused
Not sure I understand your question? All my turbine test videos are under the test playlist.
@@thelightersideofrc how is the quality swiwin engine compare the kingtech turbine motors
Oh one more question sorry its a pretty simple one though. Can you use the same fuel pump for different turbine engines?
Depends on the manufacture. On the Swiwin lineup it’s the same pump for them all. The larger ones are plumbed different than the smaller turbines.
Some manufacturers will use different pumps for the different turbines
Tôi đang phân vân về vấn đề âm thanh , liệu bạn có thể cho tôi biết kingtech k45 và sw80b . Chiếc động cơ nào cho âm thanh to hơn được không. Cảm ơn bạn
very similar but generally the higher RPM on the smaller engine is louder.
Never mind. I found your store
I sent you an email as well.
Does anyone fly rc with onboard cameras? I always wanted to get into the hobby just always had a hard time with reversing controls when the plane is coming towards you.
I know it happens, FPV, but it’s not overly popular in my area. With time on the sticks you get used to it.
There are legal issues with that, in lots of EU it's straight forbidden to fly fpv anything heavier than 250g, direct visual contact only. Despite of common expectations flying fpv is not necessary easier, it messes up apparent distances and one strong gust of wind is enough to mess with your spatial awareness for a second and in a monster RC moving 80kmh that's enough time to plough into someone's kid. Fpv is fine for drones and foamies, keep it away from big RC.
Fpv is legal in the us, thing is I was always a simulator type of guy, used to flying and judging distance without depth perception, I get the concern on spatial awareness,
The Tim Taylor in me wants to put this in a 90mm edf jet...
HAHAHA! DO IT! I have one here! Ready to ship out to you!
@@thelightersideofrc LOLOL you arent a bad influence AT ALL hahaha
Ya know I've already thought it through lol....new servos, some reinforcing in a couple critcal places lol ya know...the typical for rc madness lolol
Geeze! I seem to be hearing that more each day!🤣🤣 sounds like you have it all planned out already!
@@thelightersideofrc It will fit...I already know hahaha Fuel consumption may be tricky for tank size vs space available BUT! There are solutions(there's a mounting kit) lol...yes i have planned a little..you don't simply just walk into Mordor as it were lol It
Max rpm should be 156k. You can unlock it to hit 160000rpm and 80/85N of thrust.
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My friend has one of these. How does he unlock it to hit 160000rpm and 80/85N of thrust
Why have only 13.4 lbs thrust, should have more than 16....
As I mention in every test video. Altitude and Density Altitude
Love from Pakistan
Thanks for watching!
13.4 Lb is only 6.16 Kgs, you sure this is not the SW60?
Yea absolutely. As I mentioned in the video we are at 3200 ft above sea level so a 15% +/_ 5% reduction in thrust is expected.
Why does she only give 6 kg?
We are at 3300ft ASL. as elevation increases, thrust drops.
@@thelightersideofrc I'm in Los Angeles, I have the same
Sponsored by Flo-fast lol
Haha. 😂