Had ton's of fun putting this video together! I'm very impressed with the Swiwin Line of Turbines! This and other Swiwin Turbines can be purchased at www.thelightersideofrc.com/shop
I never had a turbine aircraft as they seemed so complex, and expensive, seems like they are becoming much more user friendly. You are a great explainer and teacher, did you ever consider making a video series on "getting started with turbines for beginners"? I would certainly be a viewer.
Thanks 😊. They are much more user friendly than say 10-15 years ago. The technology amazes me! I’m always looking for video ideas. I did do a how to install a turbine 2 part video not too long ago but I think your idea would create a different type of more general video?
@@thelightersideofrc yes, for example my expertise lies in large scale sailplanes and to s lesser extent large power aerobatics. There's a lot of potential for cross over. For example putting a turbine on a 25 pound sailplane, where do you start? What power turbine required. I saw you put a turbine in a Mibo Swift. You could integrate some basic stuff about turbines in a video on that for guys who have interest but know nothing. BTW, did you ever do a video on that install? I didn't see it listed. Even a video series about turbine theory woven into a project to keep it interesting.
I have SW 190b with one season on it , so far no issues what so ever and would buy a second one in the future. I purchased mine from CRX turbines based in New York the owner was very helpful and does all the repair work himself.
With 4 Swiwin 400 pros you could fly a small two person jet…I’ve been doing calculations and slowly building a large axial compressor based turbofan jet engine for personal flying vehicles. It’s slow going to get it right…Swiwin definitely builds great microjets. Unfortunately they don’t translate up to larger style jets of more than 0.5 meters in size. The simplicity of a centrifugal compressor is great but an axial compressor is better suited for a turbofan…these tiny jets are amazing marvels of engineering though, no question…
@@thelightersideofrc hopefully our little company is successful…just 3 guys and one girl…putzing in a hanger at a local airport and working with a local aerospace fabrication company. If we succeed in building the engine…we may market the engines for small aircraft…and worry about building the personal aircraft later…
Just getting started watching video and know it will be great. We have a 120, 190 and 300 right now. Have a 220 coming this week and will have another 190 ordered soon. So far very impressed with the quality and power
Love all the features of this turbine, but my 190b blows up mid flight two days ago with only 23 minutes of run time.... I sent it back to China today, and I hope Thomas will deal with asap. Few friends bought Swiwin because I recommended it, and I hold my next purchase till I will see the quality of the service from the manufacturer. Thomas answer emails fast, and if everything will go well, Swiwin will be a big hit here.
@@thelightersideofrc have you ever measured the thrust on a turbocharger turbine? Or know of some numbers? I just want to know the size of the turbo and thrust generated
Jonathan, thank you for this video. I am stepping up from large EDFs to turbines and I have been trying to find information on the nitty gritties of turbine setup. And you nailed it!
what if you wanted to link a couple of these up say this would be great for an F16 but what if wanted to do an F14 or F15. what would the set up look like for connecting two together to run together etc
I have done many twin aircraft on the channel. Check out my build videos on F-14 XXL and normal. SU30 etc. All twin aircraft. More coming this fall/winter season.
Great job going through all the parameters of the Swiwin turbine very helpful. Sure has lots of thrust with that -21c air, saw the testbed sliding at full thrust. Should be an excellent performer
@@thelightersideofrc I did some calculations and it would be possible to fly a 120 pound person with a total gross weight of 900 pounds, giving the same thrust to weight ratio of a commercial airliner, fuel would weigh 270 pounds and last about 1 hour with a half hour reserve.
Good day. Once again thank you for such great site. I bought myself a new Swiwin 14kg for Xmas present. I am also in the market for a 8kg turbine for my Vampire. Question now, I was told the specs. of the 6kg is basically the same except the fuel consumption is is less. For less I pay on a 6kg turbine I just have to let more flow on the fuel up to the consumption of a 8kg. Is this possible or is the spray ring larger in hole size. Only way to see the difference maybe if you have the different parts with you of each turbine. Already a few guys bought the 17kg swinwin with impression they can boost it up to a 19kg. Regards Casper.
Thanks for watching. The swiwin lineup is listed on my website. www.thelightersideofrc.com The specs listed on the site for the 80 are from my testing on the engine and also my test video of the 80 shows the specs. The Swiwin 60 and 80 are same dimensions. The 80 will have slightly altered internals and max rpm will be higher which is where the additional thrust comes from. So yes, if you did a max rpm run on both engines for 1 min the 60 will use slightly less fuel than the 80. The 170 and 190 are the same core of the engine as well.
Interesting on the thrust numbers. I would assume that engine thrust is correlated to the density altitude. If you were on a standard day. Barometer reading 29.92inhg at minus -20 your density altitude would actually be closer to -700ft below sea level. I would lay good odds if you did a thrust test again on a warmer day you would note a significant loss of thrust. Not saying of course that the numbers aren't awe inspiring. May make for a cool video though to show people the difference a hit day makes on the performance of your aircraft.
Just had to get all technical on us Tyrel! 😂. Kidding of course. I do think the outside temp had something to do with the amazing thrust numbers but It would be interesting to repeat the test in warmer weather.
@@thelightersideofrc If I recall Tiger Cat builds a turbine that's set up for boat applications. But its thrugh the roof price wise. That little one there would work great in a 1/10 or 1/8 scale hydroplane if it had a gear box on it
Very Nice Video of this Tufbine. Just a Few Questions , what would Happen if you add Air Flow from a Fan to the Turbine or your Leaf Blow to Act like the Air Flow in your Diamond aircraft? Sorry for this does USA make a Nice Turbines ? God Bless. I bet the Neighbors will like you more when you Move? lol. Peace Be With You. Greg
Hey Gregory. Basically the turbine will do what is needed to keep the RPM setting you dictate. So if your at max RPM and it got a boost from something it should reduce fuel input. I don't know if any turbines made on US Soil.
Wow. Excellent timing! Save me a lot of time by doing all those testing. Getting 2 of these to replace kt210's on the Pilot j10's. Is it possible that the increase in thrust is because of the colder denser air ? Thanks for the review and testing.
@@thelightersideofrc Either the SW is underrated which is not surprising seeing it is such a big rotor or the air is definitely increasing thrust by almost 20%. In any case it is a winner!
for all european customer there are big promotion and free shipping, the official european distributor is swiwin turbine italia, can find the page on facebook : swiwin turbine italia
Fantastic video Jonathan. Looks really nice kit. That exhaust shot showing the back of the turbine glowing red was awesome, never seen that before on a RC turbine. One question, are there limits on how long you can run at full throttle for? I realise that you’d never run it that hard when it’s flying in the jet but just curious.
Thanks Ian. Full throttle is the hardest thing for our turbines. I’m sure they would run for a very long tine but it’s the hottest point for the turbine. On my Ultra Flash when I do some high speed stuff I will peg it at full throttle and complete 3-4 massive runs/circuits. Probably at full throttle for 1-1.5 min. That’s the most for me.
Turbines are in general quite fine running at full chat, more so than piston engines definitely. The only moving parts have ball/roller bearings that have continuous lubrication, the engine is designed to tolerate certain turbine inlet temperature and RPM, don't exceed those and the engine is fine. There's a lot of air flowing through the engine that keeps all the other parts cool. Sure, an impending failure is most likely to manifest at full chat but then there was a problem to begin with.
@@thelightersideofrc İ am in turkey İ have edfs freewing avanti s and İ have taft viper and hsd süper viper İ conctact swiwin they will produce n55 in may
She was scared! Haha. Kidding. The camera is a DJI Osmo pocket gimbal camera. I don’t think it liked the loud noise of this monster turbine running. Camera was mounted on a tripod
1L of kerosene per minute? Holly crap. My car takes 0.6L every 10 minutes ! Petrol cost is 2 euro\L where i live ! How can someone even try to use this.. unless they are printing their own money ? 😂
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Had ton's of fun putting this video together! I'm very impressed with the Swiwin Line of Turbines! This and other Swiwin Turbines can be purchased at www.thelightersideofrc.com/shop
I never had a turbine aircraft as they seemed so complex, and expensive, seems like they are becoming much more user friendly. You are a great explainer and teacher, did you ever consider making a video series on "getting started with turbines for beginners"? I would certainly be a viewer.
Thanks 😊. They are much more user friendly than say 10-15 years ago. The technology amazes me!
I’m always looking for video ideas. I did do a how to install a turbine 2 part video not too long ago but I think your idea would create a different type of more general video?
@@thelightersideofrc yes, for example my expertise lies in large scale sailplanes and to s lesser extent large power aerobatics. There's a lot of potential for cross over. For example putting a turbine on a 25 pound sailplane, where do you start? What power turbine required. I saw you put a turbine in a Mibo Swift. You could integrate some basic stuff about turbines in a video on that for guys who have interest but know nothing. BTW, did you ever do a video on that install? I didn't see it listed. Even a video series about turbine theory woven into a project to keep it interesting.
I have SW 190b with one season on it , so far no issues what so ever and would buy a second one in the future.
I purchased mine from CRX turbines based in New York the owner was very helpful and does all the repair work himself.
Awesome 😎 that’s great t hear!
I liked the special effects on the video when thrusting up. I almost felt it through my android. 😆
HAHA. Thanks!
With 4 Swiwin 400 pros you could fly a small two person jet…I’ve been doing calculations and slowly building a large axial compressor based turbofan jet engine for personal flying vehicles. It’s slow going to get it right…Swiwin definitely builds great microjets. Unfortunately they don’t translate up to larger style jets of more than 0.5 meters in size. The simplicity of a centrifugal compressor is great but an axial compressor is better suited for a turbofan…these tiny jets are amazing marvels of engineering though, no question…
Awesome! Sounds like a great project!
@@thelightersideofrc hopefully our little company is successful…just 3 guys and one girl…putzing in a hanger at a local airport and working with a local aerospace fabrication company. If we succeed in building the engine…we may market the engines for small aircraft…and worry about building the personal aircraft later…
I was waiting this review as i m dealer for SWIWIN TURBINES FOR PAKISTAN
Nice! Thanks for tuning in!
Beautiful the SW220B
Thanks Ricardo! Shiny like jewelry!
Might need to look in on Swiwin turbine !!!!!
I'm impressed!
Great review , very thorough as usual. Can’t wait to see it perform.
Coming soon! Just need winter to piss off!
Just getting started watching video and know it will be great. We have a 120, 190 and 300 right now. Have a 220 coming this week and will have another 190 ordered soon. So far very impressed with the quality and power
Video was awesome John, best turbine info video I have seen, great editing!!!
Nice! Sounds like a good stable of turbines! Thanks for watching!
Thanks Kelly! I appreciate that and the feedback!
Love all the features of this turbine, but my 190b blows up mid flight two days ago with only 23 minutes of run time....
I sent it back to China today, and I hope Thomas will deal with asap.
Few friends bought Swiwin because I recommended it, and I hold my next purchase till I will see the quality of the service from the manufacturer.
Thomas answer emails fast, and if everything will go well, Swiwin will be a big hit here.
Is this the turbine that was posted on the Swiwin Face Book Group that your talking about?
@@thelightersideofrc I'm not sure what turbine, can you post here the link?
I saw your post on Facebook in the CRX/SWIWIN Turbines group.
@@thelightersideofrc Yep, that's the one.
You need to come down and fly with us, not to far away and nice paved runway
Hey Kelly! Absolutely would love that. Once boarders open I’m in!
Greetings from the Netherlands
Wow! Thanks for watching!
You should keep the King Tech. Every serious racer has a spare engine.
Good point Leon.
@@thelightersideofrc have you ever measured the thrust on a turbocharger turbine?
Or know of some numbers? I just want to know the size of the turbo and thrust generated
Jonathan, thank you for this video. I am stepping up from large EDFs to turbines and I have been trying to find information on the nitty gritties of turbine setup. And you nailed it!
Thanks for watching! Glad it was helpful! That’s the primary purpose of my channel!
Great video. A lot of work there to put that one together. Thank you 🙏
Haha. Thanks Tdog. Yea you know when there is 2-3 outfit changes and the beard disappears in one video it was a multi day event!😂
what if you wanted to link a couple of these up say this would be great for an F16 but what if wanted to do an F14 or F15. what would the set up look like for connecting two together to run together etc
I have done many twin aircraft on the channel. Check out my build videos on F-14 XXL and normal. SU30 etc. All twin aircraft. More coming this fall/winter season.
Trying to blow it outside but keeps coming back in where it’s warm.😄 you can actually see the fuel get lower.
Yea it's crazy how quick it goes through fuel at full throttle!
Great review Jonathan, I am thinking of putting this same turbine on my next plane. Other alternative is a KT 210 or 235 G4.
All great choices but i'm so far impressed with the SW220!
The 220N will be a blast in the Diamond...
Heck yea! More push!
@@thelightersideofrc Please don't torture the neighbors with the sonic boom...
Haha. I’m sure they will be happy when I move.
Great job going through all the parameters of the Swiwin turbine very helpful. Sure has lots of thrust with that -21c air, saw the testbed sliding at full thrust. Should be an excellent performer
Thanks Russell! Yea she has some good push!😳
100K+ RPMs! I know nothing about turbines but the rotating mass must be so perfectly balanced.
Oh yea. Within micro grams.
They are beautiful pieces of engineering!
Greta clip.. I have just brought a 120b what are your recommendations on fuel i noted you mention oil in your fuel mix?
Most turbines will run on Kerosene, Jet A or Diesel. Oil is mixed as per manufactures recommendation. In the case of a swiwin it's 5%.
Great video Jon. Will check out the website 👍
Thanks Hal!😎
What do you think about putting 2 of their 400 models into a small single person homebuilt plane? could be interesting...
Definitely a cool thought! Not fuel efficient but would be fun!
@@thelightersideofrc I did some calculations and it would be possible to fly a 120 pound person with a total gross weight of 900 pounds, giving the same thrust to weight ratio of a commercial airliner, fuel would weigh 270 pounds and last about 1 hour with a half hour reserve.
Another great vid Jon!!
Thanks 😊
Hello. where do I buy the usb pen from ? (That is the usb key to change the image on GSU and to download data from the ECU) ?
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Muhteşem heyecanla izliyorum / watching with great excitement / 🇹🇷
Thanks for watching!😊
That jet with the wing off looks like a boat
😂😂
Good day.
Once again thank you for such great site.
I bought myself a new Swiwin 14kg for Xmas present.
I am also in the market for a 8kg turbine for my Vampire.
Question now, I was told the specs. of the 6kg is basically the same except the fuel consumption is is less.
For less I pay on a 6kg turbine I just have to let more flow on the fuel up to the consumption of a 8kg. Is this possible or is the spray ring larger in hole size.
Only way to see the difference maybe if you have the different parts with you of each turbine.
Already a few guys bought the 17kg swinwin with impression they can boost it up to a 19kg.
Regards Casper.
Thanks for watching. The swiwin lineup is listed on my website. www.thelightersideofrc.com
The specs listed on the site for the 80 are from my testing on the engine and also my test video of the 80 shows the specs.
The Swiwin 60 and 80 are same dimensions. The 80 will have slightly altered internals and max rpm will be higher which is where the additional thrust comes from. So yes, if you did a max rpm run on both engines for 1 min the 60 will use slightly less fuel than the 80.
The 170 and 190 are the same core of the engine as well.
Excellent review...
Did you just want trying a new turbine? Look like an upgrade in power from the KT 210.
Thanks Karl! Yea it’s got a bit more push than the 210! Been watching Swiwin for a few years. Time to try!
Sounds good. I am sure it will be a great engine.
Do you have blueprints and build guide for your test stand?
I don’t as I didn’t make it.
Interesting on the thrust numbers. I would assume that engine thrust is correlated to the density altitude. If you were on a standard day. Barometer reading 29.92inhg at minus -20 your density altitude would actually be closer to -700ft below sea level. I would lay good odds if you did a thrust test again on a warmer day you would note a significant loss of thrust. Not saying of course that the numbers aren't awe inspiring. May make for a cool video though to show people the difference a hit day makes on the performance of your aircraft.
Just had to get all technical on us Tyrel! 😂. Kidding of course. I do think the outside temp had something to do with the amazing thrust numbers but It would be interesting to repeat the test in warmer weather.
Sorry my NERD was showing again
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I design this ECU for your engine
Nice!!! Thank you! Works great!
Me or 👆?
Can You share this project into public?
I wish they would build one for boat applications , I run hydroplane
Now that would be nuts!
@@thelightersideofrc If I recall Tiger Cat builds a turbine that's set up for boat applications. But its thrugh the roof price wise.
That little one there would work great in a 1/10 or 1/8 scale hydroplane if it had a gear box on it
@@terryperrott9913 that would be pretty slick! Don’t want it to flip and ingest water! That would be a quick end.
@@thelightersideofrc Jetcat turbines has one , but it $$$
I'm putting one on my pontoon boat to go back up River when I float by a good fishing hole
Great video.
Thanks!
Im waiting for the Macgyver episode where he shows me how to make a jet turbine from stuff you can buy at the Dollar Tree
MMMMM. Not possible. Need to go to dollar Tree and Home Depot!😉😂
Amazing!
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is that possible without that rc remote jet engine all test?
with ecu data terminal?
You need something that outputs a throttle signal. There are little boxes available to run without radio system
great !
nice job!
Thanks 😊
Very Nice Video of this Tufbine. Just a Few Questions , what would Happen if you add Air Flow from a Fan to the Turbine or your Leaf Blow to Act like the Air Flow in your Diamond aircraft? Sorry for this does USA make a Nice Turbines ? God Bless. I bet the Neighbors will like you more when you Move? lol. Peace Be With You. Greg
Hey Gregory. Basically the turbine will do what is needed to keep the RPM setting you dictate. So if your at max RPM and it got a boost from something it should reduce fuel input. I don't know if any turbines made on US Soil.
Realy nice video and review 👌🏻
Is swiwin the same as Ace Turbines?
Greethings from switzerland.
I Like your channel 👍🏻😄
I believe they are made in the same factory and think the Ace turbines are the ones that come pre installed in planes?
Thanks for watching!
Wow. Excellent timing! Save me a lot of time by doing all those testing. Getting 2 of these to replace kt210's on the Pilot j10's. Is it possible that the increase in thrust is because of the colder denser air ? Thanks for the review and testing.
Hello Ebel. Thanks for watching! Yea the cold dense air definitely helps!
@@thelightersideofrc Either the SW is underrated which is not surprising seeing it is such a big rotor or the air is definitely increasing thrust by almost 20%. In any case it is a winner!
Great stuff...thanks!
Thanks Peter.
Very nice 👍
for all european customer there are big promotion and free shipping, the official european distributor is swiwin turbine italia, can find the page on facebook : swiwin turbine italia
Thanks 😊
Fantastic video Jonathan. Looks really nice kit. That exhaust shot showing the back of the turbine glowing red was awesome, never seen that before on a RC turbine. One question, are there limits on how long you can run at full throttle for? I realise that you’d never run it that hard when it’s flying in the jet but just curious.
Thanks Ian. Full throttle is the hardest thing for our turbines. I’m sure they would run for a very long tine but it’s the hottest point for the turbine. On my Ultra Flash when I do some high speed stuff I will peg it at full throttle and complete 3-4 massive runs/circuits. Probably at full throttle for 1-1.5 min. That’s the most for me.
Turbines are in general quite fine running at full chat, more so than piston engines definitely. The only moving parts have ball/roller bearings that have continuous lubrication, the engine is designed to tolerate certain turbine inlet temperature and RPM, don't exceed those and the engine is fine. There's a lot of air flowing through the engine that keeps all the other parts cool. Sure, an impending failure is most likely to manifest at full chat but then there was a problem to begin with.
can i ask how much will cost a service? i notice that they need service every 25 hours of use
Normal for most turbines is $300 USD for a 25 Hour Service. For most people that fly a decent amount that works out to every 2 to 3 years.
@@thelightersideofrc thx for your answer!!
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Cool
Thanks!
Hello sir I want to buy a turbine engine, but I couldn't decide, between xicoy and swiwin do you have any idea
Hello. What size are you looking for? Where are you located (what county)?
@@thelightersideofrc İ am in turkey İ have edfs freewing avanti s and İ have taft viper and hsd süper viper
İ conctact swiwin they will produce n55 in may
@@celaleddinozer144 YES! I am very happy with the quality of the Swiwin Turbines! So much so that I may be a dealer for them soon!
@@thelightersideofrc where do you live
Canada.
Pretty sweet!
what is the cost of this unit?
where you live ?
@@gianlucaraia4814 Alabama, USA.
Depends on where you order from.
Nice 👍👍👍👍
Thanks
Why is the camera shaking when at full throttle? There's a person holding the camera, why is it shaking like crazy during a run up.
She was scared! Haha. Kidding. The camera is a DJI Osmo pocket gimbal camera. I don’t think it liked the loud noise of this monster turbine running. Camera was mounted on a tripod
@@thelightersideofrc OH ok, is that pilatus a turboprop like a Socata ?
Yea exactly!😎
How to bay this mini jet engine
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Bent screwdriver your awsome lol
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HOW MUCH DOES IT COST?
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What happened to your fingers bro
from the words of Lady Gaga, "Baby, I was born this way!"😂
1L of kerosene per minute? Holly crap. My car takes 0.6L every 10 minutes ! Petrol cost is 2 euro\L where i live ! How can someone even try to use this.. unless they are printing their own money ? 😂
Haha! Turbines aren't cheap to run! But they sure are fun!
thats not a micro turbine
I think all of our hobby turbines are micro turbines when you compare them to the full size!
Lll
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