Man, yes, those prices are sick, I went looking today in the camera store and the body wasn't as bad as I thought, but the two lenses were $3200 and $6400 perspectively and that was used all the way around. I bought a Fuji X100V and called it a day.
Leica is definitely one of those "get it or don't get it" kind of a brands. I don't understand people getting upset about the personal gear choices of other photographers. There are lots of reasons I can list for why I shoot mostly on film, and why I shoot with a Leica M3, but ultimately, I just really enjoy photographing in that way. And do I need a better reason than that?
THIIIISSS. It's crazy adults need to hear that. So many comments are just... "Why don't you shoot this camera that's covered with buttons and dials to access all of those features you don't need?"
I find most people who jump on hating Leica have never held a Leica, let alone an optical rangefinder. I have yet to find a digital camera as simplistic yet brilliant as my M10. It’s a great system that you really can’t beat!
It’s been a few years, but finally got the combination I have been lusting after: Leica M10-D with 50mm Summilux Black Chrome edition. My advice to photographers considering a rangefinder is to try one. You’ll either wonder what all the fuss was about, or you’ll never look back. And whilst the cost of entry is high, I’ve rarely lost money buying carefully selected used Leica cameras and lenses; they hold their value very well.
I couldn‘t agree more - I have the M 10 P which is so beautiful and has no red dot but the super stylish old Leica engraving on the top - and I can focus on what I want always in any light condition- these are the small details who make the big difference
I just did the upgrade from M240 to M10-R a month ago. It's truly a big step up - faster response time, ISO, less buttons on the back, slimmer body and that 40MP resolution. I got the silver one as it works with both black and silver lenses I have. People mistook the camera as an "old" camera and aren't that intimidated by its presence :)
It´s all about the experience and the feel when you hold a Leica M, that just can´t be replicated by any camera. Period. Was a long wait (27 years) to finally get one M, the M-E typ240, plus the cron 75 and the 50.
Thank you for the laid back description. I have an M10D (without rear screen) and love the analog feel to it. The camera gives me more responsibility and I appreciate this. I also like what these cameras DONT have. No bells and whistles. Just the basics.
@@cctc788 I agree... like covering up Rolex so nobody sees "it's a Rolex" well nowadays it's so nobody Saws your arm off to get it. I do love my Leica though.. soon to be the MP!!
Absolutely love how you always take the camera up to the eye and focusing even tho this does nothing for the viewer - but man, I can definitely feel why are you doing this. I love watching through the rangefinder-viewfinder. It's so good!
I use my m10 all of the time. For most of my work use 1dx and r5 but everything else weekends family vacation its the m10 for me. And it really is hard for some people to understand how refreshing it is to get rid of all the tech and strip back to basics.
THIS video was so good Benj. I can sense your passion and excitement about these incredible tools. Everything you said makes total sense and I love it. Thank you for sharing this one! Really fun!
Great video Benj! My Leica Q2 is my favorite camera and I always find your videos on other Leica cameras to be both inspiring and dangerous to my own wallet. Maybe one day i'll also make the jump to all rangefinders for my own work!
Nice one man. So yes my M10 for me is something I feel I will never NEED to upgrade. Like you said the dynamic range is more than capable of saving a bad exposure. For me its about +/-3 stops. And if one can't take a photo within that range of user error then one really needs to reassess their knowledge of photography. This camera functionality/IQ/styling/build quality will always be timeless. When the Canon R5's and Sony A1's of the world are obsolete 5 years from now the M10 will continue to demand $3000-5000 just as the M240 an even older camera still demands till this day. Simply un-matched value in the digital photography world second only to film cameras in relative value. Haters come at me. 👍
Ah, you're one of those people who think you can't take a picture with an "obsolete" camera. No camera will take a good picture for you, any decent camera can take good pictures in the right hands. I used Leicas in the 90s, an M6, M4-2 and M4P, with a 28, 35, 50. I dropped them. I saw them as overpriced for what they did. They're good for photojournalism, but little else. BTW, Leicas are not timeless. Nowadays, they're just snob cameras for hipsters and oligarchs, who need to show how much money they have. Most of them have never even heard of the zone system. "They take such great pictures" LOL...
@@suba1234 Literally the opposite of my point. The fact is I have multiple "obsolete" cameras I shoot with regularly. But when you have a camera that actually functions in a way that never needs upgrading and a modern sensor to keep up with every other new camera out there, suddenly your GAS might just be defeated. It's shocking to me that you just see Leica's as hipster cameras after shooting them for years. As if people suddenly decide they don't care about photography anymore because what? Frappacinos were invented? So therefore zone focusing and focus by feel are irrelevant to everyone now? Because why? EVF's and eye tracking exist? Right tool for the right job bro. Nothing has changed. Just your age.
@@AlexOnStreets I had numerous issues with Leica Ms when I used them. The most annoying thing was that anything larger than the 35mm summicron ate up a significant part of the viewfinder. The 28 mm elmarit was a case in point. Even if you used it without the lens hood it swallowed up about 25% of the frame. I used an auxilliary viewfinder every time I used it, even with the M6, M4P. There were no lightmeters prior to the M6 (or the disastrous M5), and the M6 meter was nothing great. I found the Ms useful when shooting handheld in low light at 1/4 or 1/8th sec. They were very rugged, but so were my Nikon F3, FM2, F2A. I also knew photojournalists who'd used Leicas for decades - M3s, M2s, M4s.. These days, though, I prefer my Canons for practical reasons. I could afford a Leica if I wanted one, but can shoot pictures equally as well with my dated EOS5D mkI and L lenses, to say nothing of the newer models. To each their own, but your first comment did sound like you were trashing other people's gear, which I think is unfair.
@@suba1234 "Trashing" the Canon R5 and Sony A1 because the M10 will retain its value for longer vs them I will definitely defend that call. Those cameras are high tech computers. Amazing professional devices. But quote me the R5 and A1 will go from $5000 to $2000 faster than the M10 will. That's my only point. Otherwise all I said is the M10 is actually a good value for dollar camera. I shoot Fuji, Canon, Ricoh, plenty of other systems.. I just think Leica for my use case is the best and not afraid to say it. People that know me for my actual work know what I mean by that. I even make fun of myself over it. Never take your gear or your opinion so seriously though man. Cause while you don't like a certain amount of viewfinder blockage or frameline magnification I don't have an issue with it. Theirs negatives and positives to the system for sure but I don't use it for everything. Just for what it's good at. And that means I will continue to own and value the camera for lord knows how many years longer. Same with my M2 and Bessa.
@@AlexOnStreets That's true about resale value. I got the same money for my M gear that I bought it for even after years of use. Btw, I got around the viewfinder issue with the 28 by using an auxilliary viewfinder designed for the M4. This was what Harry Gruyaert and Koudelka did. Anyway, best of luck.
Loved your video. As a Leica user myself, I think you expressed all of the reasons I love my camera. At first the Leica forces you to slow down and concentrate on the whole process of recoding an image. But as you use it this becomes muscle memory and you are free to compose and take the shot. Lastly, I always carry my Leica and when I pick it up I have a smile on my face. I also have two an M10 and an M10 Monochrom.
Bought my M10 one month ago, couldn’t agree more. I came from fuji x-pro 3 and I loved that camera! But it’s obvious that the pro 3 want to be a m-model. And the sad part is that they couldn’t make the most important part of the m-series, the viewfinder and focus. The focus by wire sucks! And the guidelines in the OVF jumps like crazy with back button focus. It’s a totally different experience to use the mechanical lenses on the m10 and at first I didn’t even see the guidlines moving in the OVF. And then we have the build quality and overall esthetic. I love the simplicity and minimalism on the m10, and no joystick! 😍
I have an M9 with a Noctilux. I love the look of the images I capture, and even though I know there are super cool high pixel cameras, but I LOVE LOVE LOVE my gear. I totally understand what you mean. Thanks so much for posting this.
You helped me move to Leica last year watching the M240 videos. I did get an M10 due to the improved refresh rates when using LV for manual focusing with close up adapters.
I always cover my camera's branding in a professional capacity. Especially concert photography. People in the crowd always want to talk to you about your gear and say the brand they use is better. Blah blah blah. I don't care, Josh. You do you.
Leica is for me a dream camera since forever. I started photography 20 years ago using a fm2 and b&w films, then i switched 8 years ago to digital photography with fujifilm until now. And today, i made the big step and bought the M10D (yes the D!) a few minutes ago before watching your video. Thanks for sharing your experience with the brand, it helps me a lot (you can't imagine how many reviewers'videos i watched before to decide myself...)
I bought the M10 D back in August of last year. I traded my M10 for it. It is my favorite camera. I love not having the screen on the back. I get excited to go look at the pictures on my computer later that day. I use it for professional work too. You are gonna love this camera
I think for me, the real difference between Fujifilm and Leica cameras comes down to ergonomics and user experience, as of course you can make great images with either system. With Leica, everything is very simple and direct. With Fujifilm, you have so many options and settings you can adjust, lots of automatic controls, and a lot of (useful) assist features. Probably some people find the Leica too barebones, while others (myself included) find the Fujifilm overcomplicated. I’ve never used an M, just the Leicaflex SL+R7 with film and T+TL2 in digital, but for me that kind of simplicity is more helpful, and more enjoyable to use.
If you think about it, its not that expensive really. Most people who can afford a modern body and lenses, the price is almost the same. Plus Leica’s hold their value. What about other camera bodies? Nope. In 3 years they are worth. 2/3 less. Not Leica bodies.
@@user-ss6zt2mo1l It's this exact same thing I always say. Are they overpriced? Yeah sure. Can anyone afford one? No. Now, you buy an M7 or an MP, a glass, considering you have the passion and some finances for the film, and you have a camera that's gonna last decades. Leica can repair for 30 years. Leica MP + a good lens is 7000 (max price as example) for 30 years! That's not much, it's just that the initial amount is huge compared to any other camera. I would rather put 5000 to 8000 on an M7 or MP plus 2 lenses than 4000 on a digital Leica that's gonna be obsolete after a few years.
@@REMY.C. I have so many cameras. I am selling them all. I rebuild old Kodak Retinas. Fun cameras. I’m not a pro so digital bodies are out of my $ range. All I need is an M2 and a 100 foot roll of Ilford Delta 100 and HP5+. It costs me nothing to develop at home either B&W or color. But a pro cant compete with others shooting film. It’s too labor intensive full time. Time is money. It would be great if you could buy the lenses and rent the bodies, that way you could just upgrade the bodies when needed.
@@user-ss6zt2mo1l «Not Leica bodies» Add *_film_* in between. My M6 traded a year ago is commanding about 50% more. Ditto my M2 for which I paid $850. My $3000 2003 MP can be sold almost even. A Typ 240 goes for about 60% it's new sale price.
@@REMY.C. In 2003 I got me an MP + 'cron 50/2 v5 (best lens there is at any price, still today) from B&H for $4200. Would I pay $8000 for an M10. Loud *NO!* However I did swap unused film gear towards one. That's (for me) affordable.
I agree. I feel like M10 is all you need if you are doing just photography without video. 24MP is more than enough, and its ISO capabilities are not limiting. If you are wanting to shoot photos with a digital rangefinder, M10 checks all the boxes. There are other cheaper options that can take similar or if not better photos with autofocus and awesome capabilities, but there is something about using manual focus on a rangefinder that triggers gratification. Also, aesthetics of M10 and the solid feel when you pick up the camera helps with making you want to pick it up and carry it wherever you go.
Obviously he's just clickbaiting. I mean.. He's just damn good at smoking through stuff, he doesn't really know what he's talking about. Almost every video is him justifying his reasons for doing/owning certain things while low key taking a dig at why others don't need it but he does cos he's legit.
The tonality of your photos is absolutely beautiful. I agree with the aesthetics of the Leicas being very alluring and just making you want to go out and shoot. I get a similar feeling from my XPro3, but even more from my Zenza Bronica or Praktica. Great video, thanks!
Agree on the size. I looked at M240/242/246 forever and just could not throw myself over the wall because it didn’t feel intuitive in the hand the way the M10 line up does. Same way a M5 feels vs an M6. Less is more as they say. Fuji’s are great and had owned several of them but I do prefer the physical heft of the M10 in comparison to an XT or X100 model. Leica is not only minimal it is also refined completely - the muscle memory it facilitates is without fail easy as pie.
The reason why I like Leicas ( and you as well) is the same reason I loved my Blackberry and hated my first iPhone. The tactile feel, the deliberate actions and the feedback from pushing buttons with your fingers, not an annoying touch-screen that might do something you don't want it to if you touch it by mistake, or be too slow to respond when you need it right away ( have you ever missed a picture opportunity fiddling with the iPhone camera app ? I know I have, and cursed the wretched thing many times, lol.) The Blackberry was an amazing tool, with better call quality than iPhone, unfortunately they didn't keep up with the trends and new tech. With Leica, less is definitely more, and some of us appreciate that.
Great overview on the M10. I used to be obsessed with top notch IQ and number of auto focus points and megapixels, until last year when I stopped chasing the rainbow and bought a Leica M10-P. I only have one Leica lens and then a couple of Voightlander's, but just love the simplicity and sheer joy of using a Leica. I wanted so much to love the Fuji Xpro 3 but its just didn't inspire me to go out and take images. I still have my Nikon stuff for Wildlife, something the Leica can't do!!!
I love how you completely sold out to Leica, and for good reason. I’m jealous actually. I’m looking at an M2. I’m a film nerd at heart. The M10. Waaay out of my budget, but I completely understand. Simplicity with stellar glass. EVERY digital camera I have ever used is just menu overload. They are a complicated mess. Constantly fiddling with buttons and menu swipes. Yuk. I end up shooting with my 1949 Barnack with 35mm Summaron, and when I can’t, I shoot with Fuji X, but even when switching to the Fuji the ergonomics of Fuji cameras compared to Leica is a dumbed down 60% look alike. I hate it ! ! I was binge watching your videos last night contemplating selling a kidney for that M10 😜
Good video. I also use the Summilux 50 + 28 set up on two bodies. Instead of buying an M10 I ordered a Leica serviced M-P 240 today, because it has one very convenient feature: I can go from single to continue by just turning the on/off selector. For my hands the M10 is too small. But that's just personal taste!
bought mine end of last year, super happy about it, slowing down the process improved my photography - or at least I don't have as many pictures I'm not happy with anymore :P
Thanks for a great, honest review! Sadly, Leica's are not for me but I like your reviews, presentation and especially your work! You use the equipment well and to me, that's the most important thing. Great Job... subscribed!
I think the 'slowing down and taking better pictures' is more important than many folk realise. There is a lot to be said about the near analogue way that using a manual focus Leica digital camera makes you think helping do that. I've not felt the same about taking pictures since using a Nikon F with a Weston light meter back in the 70's. I soon moved onto the Canon T90 and away from 'manual' photography - albeit that you still had to focus them - and then into the early, somewhat disappointing, digital before settling with Panasonic MFT for the last decade or so. Getting an M10-P and a handful of used Voigtlander and 7Artisans lenses has really taken me back, and I love it.
I played with one in the L.A. Leica store a couple years ago and have wanted one since. It was kinda like the first time I held my M6 where I wasn’t expecting the weight and solid feel. I guess I thought since it was digital it wouldn’t feel the same, but my budget won’t allow me to get one. I’m only a hobbyist so film Leicas are all I can afford, which is fine for me. On the covering the dot.. I have a black dot on my black M6. I get the tape reasoning, but I hate the tape look. The black dot makes it less “in your face” but still looks nice. For the silver, you can just remove the dot (it’s just a sticker) and take the red off with lacquer thinner and it’s silver underneath, (of course this is non-reversible, but buying a new red dot is cheap compared to black) I did that because I painted my dot black myself instead of buying an expensive sticker..lol.
When the movie came out I had a Leica m6TTL. I loved my camera and my coworkers always teased me about it because it seemed so "old fashion." We were watching a bootleg of the movie one night and my coworker says "That is that weird camera you have!" After that, my camera was cool.
Just a word of advice for fellow logo-coverers: cut out a circle of paper and put it in the middle of your tape piece, then line up the non-sticky paper circle with the logo. Sometimes if you leave the tape in place for a long time, it might pull up the paint when you remove it, so the paper circle offers some protection. Great video!
While I waited for Leica to produce a digital rangefinder that I liked, I used a Fuji X-Pro1 and X-Pro2 for my digital needs. Now that I have a Leica M10, I will not get rid of my Fuji cameras because they do things for me that the M10 does not. For example, I need video, auto focus, PC flash connection, wireless local area network feature with an Android phone, weather resistant lenses, duel memory card slots, and totally silent shutter noise.
Yay! finally got the Q over the weekend, the M10 having 24mp made me realize I don't need the 47mp and I can't believe how much better the color range (even when underexposed) is in the Q vs my Mark IV. Thanks for inspiring my Leica journey!! Can't believe how much time i've wasted without it haha
The Q is the best street photography travel camera...I also have the Vario-X, which has a nice small zoom fix lens...Leica with a zoom...underrated for sure...both produce that unique “Leica Look” images...amazing..
In my film only days, I used a Leica M6 with 21/35/90mm lenses. In 2017, I purchased a black Leica M10 digital rangefinder that would accept my three Leica lenses. However, the black Leica M10 was so defective that I had to send it back to the manufacturer for a full refund. Needless to say, I was very disappointed with my disastrous purchase. I was so disappointed that I lost interest in buying a digital Leica rangefinder. It was not until the introduction of the M10D, M10R, M10P, and M10monochrome lowered the price of a used M10 so much that I decided to try once again. This year, 2021, I bought a used chrome Leica M10. Thus far, I have been very pleased with my purchase.
@@Narsuitus Yes but this is irrelevant to my earlier comment - prices of used M10s were lower before the M10-R was introduced last year. I saw them going for less than $4K for some time. Since the M10-R was introduced for > $8K, best used prices you can find for M10s currently are about $4.3K.
Benj -love the vids. I have rocked an M6 going back to 89 with only a 35 cron v4 and countless rolls of gaffer's tape covering up that stupid dot. Although for a while I had a Fisher Price sticker covering it. I feel like with the M10 Leica has matured the digital M enough to jump in. I thought about it with the 240 but the girth was a deal breaker so agree on that point. Good news is with my new black paint mod i can quit buying gaffer's tape! Turns out I do need some goth girl nail polish to clean up the top plate though. Didn't think that part through. I think most people crazy enough to shell out the cash for an M value process as much or equal to results. For those types of shooters that process is what leads to said results. Then again some people just want the dot, want the jewelry, have the cash, and several external SSDs full of crappy photos. Good or bad, better or worse, right or wrong is of no matter. Just one way or another. The M even vs. other digital Leicas is like the difference between a canoe vs. a kayak. They both float, they both get you there yet one is on the water and one is in the water. One allows for packing more crap than you need one only what you need. If you have spent time in both, you will know what I mean, Cheers
Nice video. I agree. They are absolutely beautiful and yield impressive images. However, Hasselblad cameras are just attractive and have excellent results.
It is an amazing camera. Could only use the same highlight recovery as the m10r and also have the level incamera. But it is a beast of a camera. So compact and light to bring around.
I love it! I have an M6 and M4 and nothing beats the range finder! I would love a M10 but the truth is $4,500.00 used? Modern mirrorless? The Z7 looks so hyper clear, so perfect that I find less is more. Like you said the exposer triangle is right there. I recently bought an M8 just to see what it could do, knowing I would take no loss when I decide to sell it, that would be the same case with the M10 I suppose. Wish I could get a digital back for my M6, that would solve it for me. One more thing, I do have the Fuji Xpro1 and it is sublime!!! I put my Leica Summicrons (50mm, 35mm) on and bought a Voitlander 21mm skopar (surprise that was my favorite) on this body. Here is the thing and the main reason I would like a M10, it is just easier to focus than on any adapted mirrorless body.
Covered up the red dot on my M6TTL and M7. Both black bodies. People notice them and me pointing a camera at them way less than when the dots were exposed.
After renting an M10-P I would reduce the glory to the phantastic lenses. The body itself looks nice indeed, but honestly to change from super convenient Canon to Leica body, I am not so willing to go the extra mile of focusing and that terrible iso switch. Sometimes I want to slow down but definitely not always
10:16 - the parallel I can draw about the Leica vs modern mirrorless systems/DSLR. The Leica is like a fine manual transmission sports car, vs the dual-clutch sports cars.
Other camera brands and all their tech promote more and more photogs to spray and pray. Nothing wrong with that in the right scenario. But the M10 is a real old school photographer’s tool! Luv them and congrats!
I have a A7ii with 2 Voigtlander lenses 35 and 50mm. Close enough for me minus the rangefinder focusing. Slowing down to think about composition and lighting is therapeutic for me. Amazing photos btw!
Hi Benj. Thanks for the vid, obviously you love your M10's which is great. And thanks for not spending heaps of time saying what a great sensor the camera has and how distinct the colours are and the mystical potions that produce the "Leica Look". Which can be said and justified, and then spend the next 20 mins describing how you just tweet it to make it better! I think your video is the most relevant to Leica, the fact that you can hit any image with the Lightroom, Capture 1or Photoshop stick almost makes the discussion on colour science irrelevant, almost. I think how the camera makes you feel is the deciding factor. Thanks again.
shot on SLRs (mainly nikon and some canon) for about 20 years now, only ever cared about shooting film, never cared much for digital, recently took the dive into the leica world with a leica M6 after a long hiatus from photography, met up witha lens seller who let me try his M10 and i immediately fell in love with it! almost made me question/regret my M6. definitely looking to getting a M10 as a companion to my M6 in the future.
I agree with. you Benj, deliberate is the one word that would describe the Leica M experience. I made a photo-walk video with a rented Leica M10R that I'd like your thoughts on. I'm debating on buying one myself but renting was a good option for me before I made the jump.
Great video. I didn’t jive with the m10. I don’t know why. I think in my head I want digital cameras to be super sophisticated. The R6 is perfect for me. Super fast tracking AF and looks great. I guess I just don’t want to think about my digital camera so I can focus my brain power on my film cameras.
Nice review on the M10 vs M. I love my M (240) for my own use. I wish my eye sight was better and I could use the Leica's for weddings. I used a Blad for years for weddings but went to Nikon for weddings because of the auto focus.
I have the M240 as well and suffer from astigmatism. So, focusing through the viewfinder in not so bright situations was out of the question. However, through some research I found a manufacturer that addresses that issue. And it has worked wonderfully.
If some are complaining about the complication of operating and shooting modern cameras. They are always manual. For most of all who learn off of film cameras there’s no problem. When you consider the purchase that we like so many years. In Look and Life magazine of 40 or more years ago. The kind of pictures I grew up with and the magazines We’re all shocked with my new camera weather rangefinder or not.
I love shooting a wedding or people shootings in general with my M8 paired with a 21mm 1:4 Super-Angulon and the M9-P with the 50mm 1:2 Summicron. Kind of the same setup as yours. My Ms are all silver chrome (the film ones are the M4 and M5). Don’t ever had any problems with the red dot on the M8, the others are dotless at all anyways. I completely understand why you love the Ms, I also shoot Nikon F/1, Rolleicords and Hasselblad H for other types of photography.
I agree, covering it is more distracting IMHO. Being able to have an open conversation with clients is one way to connect and make them feel more comfortable. Taping them up looks like you’re hiding something, which causes a bit of distrust.
As I said, my opinion. But building trust with clients is paramount, so anything that opens them up is beneficial. If the groom thought it was a Food Network camera, a good laugh can do wonders for comfort in front of the camera. Cheers!
Just switched from Canon to Leica. My Q-P and SL2 with a SL 75mm APO have been way more enjoyable to shoot than my previous 5DM4 and 5DSR. Never leaving Leica.
Benj yes I'd be interested in your comparison of the Fuji XPro and M10. I love both but honestly tend to grab the Fuji first. Thanks for this video, nicely done!
You are very brave, using rangefinders for weddings! And with that sensor which is not brilliant in low light! But this is inspiring, maybe I'll go for the M series and not the Q2 as a secondary camera to my Fuji system.
Would be very interesting comparing manual focus lenses (like the voigtlander nokton) on a mirrorless camera (like a Sony A7III or A1 or A7RIV) vs the digital Leica M experience and results. I’m definitely considering manual focus lenses with more « character » and inspiration wibe for my clients work ... we’ll see!
I've used (but not owned) every Leica digital body. And the M10 is the best by far, in all regards. Image quality, ergonomics, and menu. So yes, of course it's worth buying. That's a no-brainer. Unless, of course, you don't have the money. Or you like other brands, and don't like Leicas. Then it's a non-issue. Simple as that.
Thanks for the vid! I was just researching 'leica magic' yesterday after a shoot where I thoroughly enjoyed my (old) fuji's and wondered: "What else is possible?". I have no experience focussing with a rangefinder style system and I'd be delighted with a video on that. My biggest questions would be: A) Would it make it impossible for me to capture the candid moments I love most? I'm a photographer because I love people and I don't want the camera (or focussing / camera fiddling) to get in the way. I'm in the moment with a (nude) person and I don't want to break the connection by 'being technical'. B) Would it make me a better photographer? C) Could I learn it, and how long would that take? Maybe this helps with making a video, and if not it at least helped me to structure my questions :-)
Great vid. I think the title would make more sense if it was just “is it worth buying” without the “in 2021”. The M10 family is still the latest generation of M cameras, so you kinda don’t have any other option to “upgrade” to if the M10 isn’t “worth it in 2021”. And, we all know you can’t really compare M spec and tech sheets (neither at its release date nor in 2021) with other cameras because that’s not what the M is about. So, really, it’s just “is it worth it?” (Btw, the answer is YES because I have one 😁)
Sure. It’s more just that since there are hundreds of M10 videos on UA-cam to let people know that the review is current. I’m always more likely to watch videos that are more recent.
the M10s can be 28/50 or 35/75[90] or even 21/35 so the versatility is key here
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I would love to see a Sony alpha to Leica m comparison. I know we’re talking about two different worlds, but I’m looking forward to make this decision and I couldn’t find any content with this discussion in mind. Btw I have a A7iii and I’m looking for a m10.
I love the gear videos but would also love to see you do videos on your process and specifically your post process from raw to finished photo and how your presets come into play.
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My heart says Leica but my heart AND wallet says Fuji.
MY Heart always steered me to the wrong woman... but it seems to know which Camera i want!
LOL me too
@@ansonwong0421 Thanks for the reply.
Man, yes, those prices are sick, I went looking today in the camera store and the body wasn't as bad as I thought, but the two lenses were $3200 and $6400 perspectively and that was used all the way around. I bought a Fuji X100V and called it a day.
Follow your heart 😂
Leica is definitely one of those "get it or don't get it" kind of a brands. I don't understand people getting upset about the personal gear choices of other photographers. There are lots of reasons I can list for why I shoot mostly on film, and why I shoot with a Leica M3, but ultimately, I just really enjoy photographing in that way. And do I need a better reason than that?
THIIIISSS. It's crazy adults need to hear that. So many comments are just... "Why don't you shoot this camera that's covered with buttons and dials to access all of those features you don't need?"
I find most people who jump on hating Leica have never held a Leica, let alone an optical rangefinder. I have yet to find a digital camera as simplistic yet brilliant as my M10. It’s a great system that you really can’t beat!
"Slows me down and makes me a better photographer" thats the nugget of wisdom right there! congrats
I just got an M240 - it was totally worth it. The images it produces are incredible.
It’s been a few years, but finally got the combination I have been lusting after: Leica M10-D with 50mm Summilux Black Chrome edition. My advice to photographers considering a rangefinder is to try one. You’ll either wonder what all the fuss was about, or you’ll never look back. And whilst the cost of entry is high, I’ve rarely lost money buying carefully selected used Leica cameras and lenses; they hold their value very well.
Well said!
I couldn‘t agree more - I have the M 10 P which is so beautiful and has no red dot but the super stylish old Leica engraving on the top - and I can focus on what I want always in any light condition- these are the small details who make the big difference
I just did the upgrade from M240 to M10-R a month ago. It's truly a big step up - faster response time, ISO, less buttons on the back, slimmer body and that 40MP resolution.
I got the silver one as it works with both black and silver lenses I have. People mistook the camera as an "old" camera and aren't that intimidated by its presence :)
Do you ever miss the M240?
It´s all about the experience and the feel when you hold a Leica M, that just can´t be replicated by any camera. Period. Was a long wait (27 years) to finally get one M, the M-E typ240, plus the cron 75 and the 50.
Thank you for the laid back description. I have an M10D (without rear screen) and love the analog feel to it. The camera gives me more responsibility and I appreciate this. I also like what these cameras DONT have. No bells and whistles. Just the basics.
Let's see this Leica v Fuji comparison video!
Haha it’s coming, I’m waiting to get a couple of cameras in to do a more fair comparison ;)
@@benjhaisch Oh that's actually a pretty great idea! Definitely interested how the M10 sensor performs against a X Pro3 in terms of ISO.
@@benjhaisch Vs XT3 with the 35 mm 1.4 would be great comparison!
Covering up the red dot with tape makes your photos look better, it's just simple science
I know a few leica shooters do that... never understood why.
@@gewglesux "dumb hipster stuff"
@@cctc788 I agree... like covering up Rolex so nobody sees "it's a Rolex" well nowadays it's so nobody Saws your arm off to get it.
I do love my Leica though.. soon to be the MP!!
@@gewglesux exactly, I say just owe it. Congratz on the MP!
I found that clients were fixating on the red dot and it took them out of the moment. The intrigue wasn’t worth it
Absolutely love how you always take the camera up to the eye and focusing even tho this does nothing for the viewer - but man, I can definitely feel why are you doing this. I love watching through the rangefinder-viewfinder. It's so good!
I use my m10 all of the time. For most of my work use 1dx and r5 but everything else weekends family vacation its the m10 for me. And it really is hard for some people to understand how refreshing it is to get rid of all the tech and strip back to basics.
Awesome video man! I just picked up my all time dream camera the M10-P I've been loving every moment using it!
I've just got one too. 40+ years since I first wanted a Leica. It's sublime.
If you’re into Leica it will always be worth it regardless the era. They are timeless.
THIS video was so good Benj. I can sense your passion and excitement about these incredible tools. Everything you said makes total sense and I love it. Thank you for sharing this one! Really fun!
Great video Benj! My Leica Q2 is my favorite camera and I always find your videos on other Leica cameras to be both inspiring and dangerous to my own wallet. Maybe one day i'll also make the jump to all rangefinders for my own work!
Nice one man. So yes my M10 for me is something I feel I will never NEED to upgrade. Like you said the dynamic range is more than capable of saving a bad exposure. For me its about +/-3 stops. And if one can't take a photo within that range of user error then one really needs to reassess their knowledge of photography. This camera functionality/IQ/styling/build quality will always be timeless. When the Canon R5's and Sony A1's of the world are obsolete 5 years from now the M10 will continue to demand $3000-5000 just as the M240 an even older camera still demands till this day. Simply un-matched value in the digital photography world second only to film cameras in relative value. Haters come at me. 👍
Ah, you're one of those people who think you can't take a picture with an "obsolete" camera. No camera will take a good picture for you, any decent camera can take good pictures in the right hands. I used Leicas in the 90s, an M6, M4-2 and M4P, with a 28, 35, 50. I dropped them. I saw them as overpriced for what they did. They're good for photojournalism, but little else. BTW, Leicas are not timeless. Nowadays, they're just snob cameras for hipsters and oligarchs, who need to show how much money they have. Most of them have never even heard of the zone system. "They take such great pictures" LOL...
@@suba1234 Literally the opposite of my point. The fact is I have multiple "obsolete" cameras I shoot with regularly. But when you have a camera that actually functions in a way that never needs upgrading and a modern sensor to keep up with every other new camera out there, suddenly your GAS might just be defeated. It's shocking to me that you just see Leica's as hipster cameras after shooting them for years. As if people suddenly decide they don't care about photography anymore because what? Frappacinos were invented? So therefore zone focusing and focus by feel are irrelevant to everyone now? Because why? EVF's and eye tracking exist? Right tool for the right job bro. Nothing has changed. Just your age.
@@AlexOnStreets I had numerous issues with Leica Ms when I used them. The most annoying thing was that anything larger than the 35mm summicron ate up a significant part of the viewfinder. The 28 mm elmarit was a case in point. Even if you used it without the lens hood it swallowed up about 25% of the frame. I used an auxilliary viewfinder every time I used it, even with the M6, M4P. There were no lightmeters prior to the M6 (or the disastrous M5), and the M6 meter was nothing great. I found the Ms useful when shooting handheld in low light at 1/4 or 1/8th sec. They were very rugged, but so were my Nikon F3, FM2, F2A. I also knew photojournalists who'd used Leicas for decades - M3s, M2s, M4s.. These days, though, I prefer my Canons for practical reasons. I could afford a Leica if I wanted one, but can shoot pictures equally as well with my dated EOS5D mkI and L lenses, to say nothing of the newer models. To each their own, but your first comment did sound like you were trashing other people's gear, which I think is unfair.
@@suba1234 "Trashing" the Canon R5 and Sony A1 because the M10 will retain its value for longer vs them I will definitely defend that call. Those cameras are high tech computers. Amazing professional devices. But quote me the R5 and A1 will go from $5000 to $2000 faster than the M10 will. That's my only point. Otherwise all I said is the M10 is actually a good value for dollar camera. I shoot Fuji, Canon, Ricoh, plenty of other systems.. I just think Leica for my use case is the best and not afraid to say it. People that know me for my actual work know what I mean by that. I even make fun of myself over it. Never take your gear or your opinion so seriously though man. Cause while you don't like a certain amount of viewfinder blockage or frameline magnification I don't have an issue with it. Theirs negatives and positives to the system for sure but I don't use it for everything. Just for what it's good at. And that means I will continue to own and value the camera for lord knows how many years longer. Same with my M2 and Bessa.
@@AlexOnStreets That's true about resale value. I got the same money for my M gear that I bought it for even after years of use. Btw, I got around the viewfinder issue with the 28 by using an auxilliary viewfinder designed for the M4. This was what Harry Gruyaert and Koudelka did. Anyway, best of luck.
Love your work-BECAUSE the B&G are obviously really comfortable with you. It shines through the images.
Loved your video. As a Leica user myself, I think you expressed all of the reasons I love my camera. At first the Leica forces you to slow down and concentrate on the whole process of recoding an image. But as you use it this becomes muscle memory and you are free to compose and take the shot. Lastly, I always carry my Leica and when I pick it up I have a smile on my face. I also have two an M10 and an M10 Monochrom.
Bought my M10 one month ago, couldn’t agree more. I came from fuji x-pro 3 and I loved that camera! But it’s obvious that the pro 3 want to be a m-model. And the sad part is that they couldn’t make the most important part of the m-series, the viewfinder and focus. The focus by wire sucks! And the guidelines in the OVF jumps like crazy with back button focus. It’s a totally different experience to use the mechanical lenses on the m10 and at first I didn’t even see the guidlines moving in the OVF. And then we have the build quality and overall esthetic. I love the simplicity and minimalism on the m10, and no joystick! 😍
I have an M9 with a Noctilux. I love the look of the images I capture, and even though I know there are super cool high pixel cameras, but I LOVE LOVE LOVE my gear. I totally understand what you mean. Thanks so much for posting this.
M9 is a beautiful thing.
You helped me move to Leica last year watching the M240 videos. I did get an M10 due to the improved refresh rates when using LV for manual focusing with close up adapters.
I always cover my camera's branding in a professional capacity. Especially concert photography. People in the crowd always want to talk to you about your gear and say the brand they use is better. Blah blah blah. I don't care, Josh. You do you.
Leica is for me a dream camera since forever. I started photography 20 years ago using a fm2 and b&w films, then i switched 8 years ago to digital photography with fujifilm until now. And today, i made the big step and bought the M10D (yes the D!) a few minutes ago before watching your video. Thanks for sharing your experience with the brand, it helps me a lot (you can't imagine how many reviewers'videos i watched before to decide myself...)
I bought the M10 D back in August of last year. I traded my M10 for it. It is my favorite camera. I love not having the screen on the back. I get excited to go look at the pictures on my computer later that day. I use it for professional work too. You are gonna love this camera
I think for me, the real difference between Fujifilm and Leica cameras comes down to ergonomics and user experience, as of course you can make great images with either system. With Leica, everything is very simple and direct. With Fujifilm, you have so many options and settings you can adjust, lots of automatic controls, and a lot of (useful) assist features. Probably some people find the Leica too barebones, while others (myself included) find the Fujifilm overcomplicated. I’ve never used an M, just the Leicaflex SL+R7 with film and T+TL2 in digital, but for me that kind of simplicity is more helpful, and more enjoyable to use.
It's a joy jumping between my M7 & M10 and the experience feeling the same
When it comes to Leica :
I get it, my wallet doesn't.
If you think about it, its not that expensive really. Most people who can afford a modern body and lenses, the price is almost the same. Plus Leica’s hold their value. What about other camera bodies? Nope. In 3 years they are worth. 2/3 less. Not Leica bodies.
@@user-ss6zt2mo1l It's this exact same thing I always say. Are they overpriced? Yeah sure. Can anyone afford one? No. Now, you buy an M7 or an MP, a glass, considering you have the passion and some finances for the film, and you have a camera that's gonna last decades. Leica can repair for 30 years. Leica MP + a good lens is 7000 (max price as example) for 30 years! That's not much, it's just that the initial amount is huge compared to any other camera. I would rather put 5000 to 8000 on an M7 or MP plus 2 lenses than 4000 on a digital Leica that's gonna be obsolete after a few years.
@@REMY.C. I have so many cameras. I am selling them all. I rebuild old Kodak Retinas. Fun cameras. I’m not a pro so digital bodies are out of my $ range. All I need is an M2 and a 100 foot roll of Ilford Delta 100 and HP5+. It costs me nothing to develop at home either B&W or color. But a pro cant compete with others shooting film. It’s too labor intensive full time. Time is money.
It would be great if you could buy the lenses and rent the bodies, that way you could just upgrade the bodies when needed.
@@user-ss6zt2mo1l «Not Leica bodies»
Add *_film_* in between. My M6 traded a year ago is commanding about 50% more. Ditto my M2 for which I paid $850. My $3000 2003 MP can be sold almost even. A Typ 240 goes for about 60% it's new sale price.
@@REMY.C. In 2003 I got me an MP + 'cron 50/2 v5 (best lens there is at any price, still today) from B&H for $4200. Would I pay $8000 for an M10. Loud *NO!* However I did swap unused film gear towards one. That's (for me) affordable.
I agree. I feel like M10 is all you need if you are doing just photography without video. 24MP is more than enough, and its ISO capabilities are not limiting. If you are wanting to shoot photos with a digital rangefinder, M10 checks all the boxes. There are other cheaper options that can take similar or if not better photos with autofocus and awesome capabilities, but there is something about using manual focus on a rangefinder that triggers gratification. Also, aesthetics of M10 and the solid feel when you pick up the camera helps with making you want to pick it up and carry it wherever you go.
I wouldn’t say it’s MORE than enough. It’s enough, but not for big prints.
Of course it’s worth buying in 2020. It still takes pictures, great body build and lenses...should last for years.
Obviously he's just clickbaiting. I mean.. He's just damn good at smoking through stuff, he doesn't really know what he's talking about. Almost every video is him justifying his reasons for doing/owning certain things while low key taking a dig at why others don't need it but he does cos he's legit.
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The tonality of your photos is absolutely beautiful. I agree with the aesthetics of the Leicas being very alluring and just making you want to go out and shoot. I get a similar feeling from my XPro3, but even more from my Zenza Bronica or Praktica. Great video, thanks!
Agree on the size. I looked at M240/242/246 forever and just could not throw myself over the wall because it didn’t feel intuitive in the hand the way the M10 line up does. Same way a M5 feels vs an M6. Less is more as they say. Fuji’s are great and had owned several of them but I do prefer the physical heft of the M10 in comparison to an XT or X100 model. Leica is not only minimal it is also refined completely - the muscle memory it facilitates is without fail easy as pie.
Great vid Benj!!!
I love how you style your cameras as well as your fashion sense!
Love the video, and love my M10.. You missed one point I love - that its so easy to switch between film and digital M's :)
YEP but if I don't use my film M's constantly I will always forget to wind on for the first few shots...
The reason why I like Leicas ( and you as well) is the same reason I loved my Blackberry and hated my first iPhone. The tactile feel, the deliberate actions and the feedback from pushing buttons with your fingers, not an annoying touch-screen that might do something you don't want it to if you touch it by mistake, or be too slow to respond when you need it right away ( have you ever missed a picture opportunity fiddling with the iPhone camera app ? I know I have, and cursed the wretched thing many times, lol.) The Blackberry was an amazing tool, with better call quality than iPhone, unfortunately they didn't keep up with the trends and new tech. With Leica, less is definitely more, and some of us appreciate that.
Great overview on the M10. I used to be obsessed with top notch IQ and number of auto focus points and megapixels, until last year when I stopped chasing the rainbow and bought a Leica M10-P. I only have one Leica lens and then a couple of Voightlander's, but just love the simplicity and sheer joy of using a Leica. I wanted so much to love the Fuji Xpro 3 but its just didn't inspire me to go out and take images. I still have my Nikon stuff for Wildlife, something the Leica can't do!!!
You are just not close enough ;-) Check out Nick Brandt (uses normal/wide angles) for his wildlife and they are GREAT.
I love how you completely sold out to Leica, and for good reason. I’m jealous actually. I’m looking at an M2. I’m a film nerd at heart.
The M10. Waaay out of my budget, but I completely understand. Simplicity with stellar glass. EVERY digital camera I have ever used is just menu overload. They are a complicated mess. Constantly fiddling with buttons and menu swipes. Yuk.
I end up shooting with my 1949 Barnack with 35mm Summaron, and when I can’t, I shoot with Fuji X, but even when switching to the Fuji the ergonomics of Fuji cameras compared to Leica is a dumbed down 60% look alike. I hate it ! !
I was binge watching your videos last night contemplating selling a kidney for that M10 😜
Good video. I also use the Summilux 50 + 28 set up on two bodies. Instead of buying an M10 I ordered a Leica serviced M-P 240 today, because it has one very convenient feature: I can go from single to continue by just turning the on/off selector. For my hands the M10 is too small. But that's just personal taste!
bought mine end of last year, super happy about it, slowing down the process improved my photography - or at least I don't have as many pictures I'm not happy with anymore :P
Digging the light in the background, bro. Great vid.
Great video, I never would've questioned whether the M10 is still worth it today when many still use the M8/M9/M240 cameras.
Thanks for a great, honest review! Sadly, Leica's are not for me but I like your reviews, presentation and especially your work! You use the equipment well and to me, that's the most important thing. Great Job... subscribed!
Great Vid again Benji and I agree 100% completely. My M10 has a special place for me.
I think the 'slowing down and taking better pictures' is more important than many folk realise. There is a lot to be said about the near analogue way that using a manual focus Leica digital camera makes you think helping do that.
I've not felt the same about taking pictures since using a Nikon F with a Weston light meter back in the 70's. I soon moved onto the Canon T90 and away from 'manual' photography - albeit that you still had to focus them - and then into the early, somewhat disappointing, digital before settling with Panasonic MFT for the last decade or so.
Getting an M10-P and a handful of used Voigtlander and 7Artisans lenses has really taken me back, and I love it.
I played with one in the L.A. Leica store a couple years ago and have wanted one since. It was kinda like the first time I held my M6 where I wasn’t expecting the weight and solid feel. I guess I thought since it was digital it wouldn’t feel the same, but my budget won’t allow me to get one. I’m only a hobbyist so film Leicas are all I can afford, which is fine for me.
On the covering the dot.. I have a black dot on my black M6. I get the tape reasoning, but I hate the tape look. The black dot makes it less “in your face” but still looks nice. For the silver, you can just remove the dot (it’s just a sticker) and take the red off with lacquer thinner and it’s silver underneath, (of course this is non-reversible, but buying a new red dot is cheap compared to black) I did that because I painted my dot black myself instead of buying an expensive sticker..lol.
0:39 you where see them in movies. Reminds me of "Eurotrip" where the guy seduced a camera saleswoman just because he owned an M7. hilarious.😂
When the movie came out I had a Leica m6TTL. I loved my camera and my coworkers always teased me about it because it seemed so "old fashion." We were watching a bootleg of the movie one night and my coworker says "That is that weird camera you have!" After that, my camera was cool.
People have been taping up their Leica for years not sure why people get mad. I tape mine and people ask me if mines broken when they see the tape lol
M10 or Q2? Asking at this time 2022
Just a word of advice for fellow logo-coverers: cut out a circle of paper and put it in the middle of your tape piece, then line up the non-sticky paper circle with the logo. Sometimes if you leave the tape in place for a long time, it might pull up the paint when you remove it, so the paper circle offers some protection.
Great video!
While I waited for Leica to produce a digital rangefinder that I liked, I used a Fuji X-Pro1 and X-Pro2 for my digital needs. Now that I have a Leica M10, I will not get rid of my Fuji cameras because they do things for me that the M10 does not. For example, I need video, auto focus, PC flash connection, wireless local area network feature with an Android phone, weather resistant lenses, duel memory card slots, and totally silent shutter noise.
Yay! finally got the Q over the weekend, the M10 having 24mp made me realize I don't need the 47mp and I can't believe how much better the color range (even when underexposed) is in the Q vs my Mark IV. Thanks for inspiring my Leica journey!! Can't believe how much time i've wasted without it haha
The Q is the best street photography travel camera...I also have the Vario-X, which has a nice small zoom fix lens...Leica with a zoom...underrated for sure...both produce that unique “Leica Look” images...amazing..
The Q still holds up so well! I had one, then let it go years ago. I just repurchased it. It’s amazing!
Just found your channel and subscribed. Love the style - appreciative of Leica but not nerdy about them 👍
In my film only days, I used a Leica M6 with 21/35/90mm lenses.
In 2017, I purchased a black Leica M10 digital rangefinder that would accept my three Leica lenses. However, the black Leica M10 was so defective that I had to send it back to the manufacturer for a full refund. Needless to say, I was very disappointed with my disastrous purchase.
I was so disappointed that I lost interest in buying a digital Leica rangefinder. It was not until the introduction of the M10D, M10R, M10P, and M10monochrome lowered the price of a used M10 so much that I decided to try once again. This year, 2021, I bought a used chrome Leica M10. Thus far, I have been very pleased with my purchase.
I saw that the introduction of the M10-R actually increased the price of used M10s.
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In 2017, a new M10 was $6895usd and a used one was $6500usd.
In 2021, a new M10 was $8000usd and a used one was $4500usd.
@@Narsuitus Yes but this is irrelevant to my earlier comment - prices of used M10s were lower before the M10-R was introduced last year. I saw them going for less than $4K for some time. Since the M10-R was introduced for > $8K, best used prices you can find for M10s currently are about $4.3K.
Don't own a Leica nor do I plan on getting one (my wallet won't allow me) but always down for Leica videos lol
Benj -love the vids. I have rocked an M6 going back to 89 with only a 35 cron v4 and countless rolls of gaffer's tape covering up that stupid dot. Although for a while I had a Fisher Price sticker covering it. I feel like with the M10 Leica has matured the digital M enough to jump in. I thought about it with the 240 but the girth was a deal breaker so agree on that point. Good news is with my new black paint mod i can quit buying gaffer's tape! Turns out I do need some goth girl nail polish to clean up the top plate though. Didn't think that part through. I think most people crazy enough to shell out the cash for an M value process as much or equal to results. For those types of shooters that process is what leads to said results. Then again some people just want the dot, want the jewelry, have the cash, and several external SSDs full of crappy photos. Good or bad, better or worse, right or wrong is of no matter. Just one way or another. The M even vs. other digital Leicas is like the difference between a canoe vs. a kayak. They both float, they both get you there yet one is on the water and one is in the water. One allows for packing more crap than you need one only what you need. If you have spent time in both, you will know what I mean, Cheers
Benj, I like your videos. Love, Christopher.
Nice video. I agree. They are absolutely beautiful and yield impressive images. However, Hasselblad cameras are just attractive and have excellent results.
It is an amazing camera. Could only use the same highlight recovery as the m10r and also have the level incamera. But it is a beast of a camera. So compact and light to bring around.
The red dot thing, I'm not even mad at ya, but that was a funny reference! I want an M10 too, love my Q2
I love it! I have an M6 and M4 and nothing beats the range finder!
I would love a M10 but the truth is $4,500.00 used? Modern mirrorless? The Z7 looks so hyper clear, so perfect that I find less is more. Like you said the exposer triangle is right there. I recently bought an M8 just to see what it could do, knowing I would take no loss when I decide to sell it, that would be the same case with the M10 I suppose. Wish I could get a digital back for my M6, that would solve it for me.
One more thing, I do have the Fuji Xpro1 and it is sublime!!! I put my Leica Summicrons (50mm, 35mm) on and bought a Voitlander 21mm skopar (surprise that was my favorite) on this body. Here is the thing and the main reason I would like a M10, it is just easier to focus than on any adapted mirrorless body.
Covered up the red dot on my M6TTL and M7. Both black bodies. People notice them and me pointing a camera at them way less than when the dots were exposed.
After renting an M10-P I would reduce the glory to the phantastic lenses. The body itself looks nice indeed, but honestly to change from super convenient Canon to Leica body, I am not so willing to go the extra mile of focusing and that terrible iso switch. Sometimes I want to slow down but definitely not always
10:16 - the parallel I can draw about the Leica vs modern mirrorless systems/DSLR. The Leica is like a fine manual transmission sports car, vs the dual-clutch sports cars.
Other camera brands and all their tech promote more and more photogs to spray and pray. Nothing wrong with that in the right scenario. But the M10 is a real old school photographer’s tool! Luv them and congrats!
I have a A7ii with 2 Voigtlander lenses 35 and 50mm. Close enough for me minus the rangefinder focusing. Slowing down to think about composition and lighting is therapeutic for me.
Amazing photos btw!
Hi Benj. Thanks for the vid, obviously you love your M10's which is great. And thanks for not spending heaps of time saying what a great sensor the camera has and how distinct the colours are and the mystical potions that produce the "Leica Look". Which can be said and justified, and then spend the next 20 mins describing how you just tweet it to make it better! I think your video is the most relevant to Leica, the fact that you can hit any image with the Lightroom, Capture 1or Photoshop stick almost makes the discussion on colour science irrelevant, almost. I think how the camera makes you feel is the deciding factor. Thanks again.
shot on SLRs (mainly nikon and some canon) for about 20 years now, only ever cared about shooting film, never cared much for digital, recently took the dive into the leica world with a leica M6 after a long hiatus from photography, met up witha lens seller who let me try his M10 and i immediately fell in love with it! almost made me question/regret my M6. definitely looking to getting a M10 as a companion to my M6 in the future.
M6/M10 combo is 🤌🏼
I agree with. you Benj, deliberate is the one word that would describe the Leica M experience. I made a photo-walk video with a rented Leica M10R that I'd like your thoughts on. I'm debating on buying one myself but renting was a good option for me before I made the jump.
Watching this more than half way through 2024 and still hoping the m10 is worth it :)
I just picked up a Leica M8 for stupid cheap money. For an Leica anyway. It has been the most fun I’ve had with a camera.
you should make a video on how much to charge clients. pretty good topic that no one talks about. great stuff m8
Great video. I didn’t jive with the m10. I don’t know why. I think in my head I want digital cameras to be super sophisticated. The R6 is perfect for me. Super fast tracking AF and looks great. I guess I just don’t want to think about my digital camera so I can focus my brain power on my film cameras.
Loved this review man. I love the variety of relevant BRoll
Nice review on the M10 vs M. I love my M (240) for my own use. I wish my eye sight was better and I could use the Leica's for weddings. I used a Blad for years for weddings but went to Nikon for weddings because of the auto focus.
I have the M240 as well and suffer from astigmatism. So, focusing through the viewfinder in not so bright situations was out of the question. However, through some research I found a manufacturer that addresses that issue. And it has worked wonderfully.
If some are complaining about the complication of operating and shooting modern cameras. They are always manual. For most of all who learn off of film cameras there’s no problem. When you consider the purchase that we like so many years. In Look and Life magazine of 40 or more years ago. The kind of pictures I grew up with and the magazines We’re all shocked with my new camera weather rangefinder or not.
I love shooting a wedding or people shootings in general with my M8 paired with a 21mm 1:4 Super-Angulon and the M9-P with the 50mm 1:2 Summicron. Kind of the same setup as yours. My Ms are all silver chrome (the film ones are the M4 and M5). Don’t ever had any problems with the red dot on the M8, the others are dotless at all anyways. I completely understand why you love the Ms, I also shoot Nikon F/1, Rolleicords and Hasselblad H for other types of photography.
Benj is da man!! Love the Leica videos!!! Keep em coming
Super informative video, thanks for sharing 👊🏻
Thanks, Gene! Loved your Canonet video 🙌🏼 I have two and they’re both broken
@@benjhaisch thanks, Benj! at least it was the canonets and not an m6 😅
great video (as always), Benj!
I can’t get on board with the logo cover.
I go with the Beyoncé method; if you got it, flaunt it.
I agree, covering it is more distracting IMHO. Being able to have an open conversation with clients is one way to connect and make them feel more comfortable. Taping them up looks like you’re hiding something, which causes a bit of distrust.
@@deverenfogle3201 I don't think it has anything to do with trust for me, I just love the looks of the Leica logo and like giving Benj a hard time lol
As I said, my opinion. But building trust with clients is paramount, so anything that opens them up is beneficial. If the groom thought it was a Food Network camera, a good laugh can do wonders for comfort in front of the camera. Cheers!
😂 never heard the Food network references 👍🏻
Just switched from Canon to Leica. My Q-P and SL2 with a SL 75mm APO have been way more enjoyable to shoot than my previous 5DM4 and 5DSR. Never leaving Leica.
Benj yes I'd be interested in your comparison of the Fuji XPro and M10. I love both but honestly tend to grab the Fuji first. Thanks for this video, nicely done!
respect for covering the logo
Lovely wedding photos. Thanks for sharing.
Even when I bought Q2, I decided to do not sell my good old M10 with Summilux 50. Love this camera so much!
Hello Benj, Nice video + photos! Is it possible you can make a video how to use flash best with Leica M cameras? Greetings from The Netherlands
You are very brave, using rangefinders for weddings! And with that sensor which is not brilliant in low light!
But this is inspiring, maybe I'll go for the M series and not the Q2 as a secondary camera to my Fuji system.
Would be very interesting comparing manual focus lenses (like the voigtlander nokton) on a mirrorless camera (like a Sony A7III or A1 or A7RIV) vs the digital Leica M experience and results.
I’m definitely considering manual focus lenses with more « character » and inspiration wibe for my clients work ... we’ll see!
I've used (but not owned) every Leica digital body. And the M10 is the best by far, in all regards. Image quality, ergonomics, and menu. So yes, of course it's worth buying. That's a no-brainer. Unless, of course, you don't have the money. Or you like other brands, and don't like Leicas. Then it's a non-issue. Simple as that.
Thanks for the vid! I was just researching 'leica magic' yesterday after a shoot where I thoroughly enjoyed my (old) fuji's and wondered: "What else is possible?".
I have no experience focussing with a rangefinder style system and I'd be delighted with a video on that.
My biggest questions would be:
A) Would it make it impossible for me to capture the candid moments I love most? I'm a photographer because I love people and I don't want the camera (or focussing / camera fiddling) to get in the way. I'm in the moment with a (nude) person and I don't want to break the connection by 'being technical'.
B) Would it make me a better photographer?
C) Could I learn it, and how long would that take?
Maybe this helps with making a video, and if not it at least helped me to structure my questions :-)
I do love having the opiton for both the silver/black bodies. I love my black leica, but also the silver. Both is the way to go ;)
I hope I can buy m10 in one year :) when new sensor in m 11 gonna reduce resell value on 10 … awesome video bro 😎👍🏻
Great vid. I think the title would make more sense if it was just “is it worth buying” without the “in 2021”. The M10 family is still the latest generation of M cameras, so you kinda don’t have any other option to “upgrade” to if the M10 isn’t “worth it in 2021”. And, we all know you can’t really compare M spec and tech sheets (neither at its release date nor in 2021) with other cameras because that’s not what the M is about. So, really, it’s just “is it worth it?” (Btw, the answer is YES because I have one 😁)
Sure. It’s more just that since there are hundreds of M10 videos on UA-cam to let people know that the review is current. I’m always more likely to watch videos that are more recent.
Just curious why you use 28mm focal length then add a Q2, instead a second M10 make more sense?
the M10s can be 28/50 or 35/75[90] or even 21/35 so the versatility is key here
I would love to see a Sony alpha to Leica m comparison. I know we’re talking about two different worlds, but I’m looking forward to make this decision and I couldn’t find any content with this discussion in mind.
Btw I have a A7iii and I’m looking for a m10.
i covered the logo on my m10 as well, same reason, to be less distracting and be more stealth
I love the gear videos but would also love to see you do videos on your process and specifically your post process from raw to finished photo and how your presets come into play.
I’m planning on doing some more editing videos soon, but you can watch about 10+ different videos like that on my Patreon right now if you’d like :)
Your camera straps are so pretty!May I ask where to buy the camera strap like yours?