Being an old time Star Trek fan, and have seen "The Wrath of Khan" several times, ................seeing the old girl make these new moves brought " A tear to me eyes ." YOU DID HER PROUD. great job.😄 fan since 1973.
Not only was this the best ST movie on terms of the storyline and plot, but the music is INCREDIBLE! Especially when the Enterprise sneaks up from below/behind the Reliant. Thank you, James Horner!
This movie came out in a simpler time of life, when I see clips of this movie and hear the music I remember vmy childhood and how much I miss those less complicated days..... never grow up it's a trap
Just keep in mind that it only seems simpler because you were a kid. In reality, it was just as complicated a time as today, sometimes even more so depending on exactly when, but you were too young and simplistic, yourself, to notice.
@@genostellar different times different problems. But even my elders agree this is very disturbing times compared to now. If only we had the simplistic views of youth. But the cold War,and watching the rise of terrorism from the mid east to see it grow to this today is sad
Very much of one...everyone is in such a rush to grow and for what...to look back and see how much has changed and how much has been lost with the innocence of childhood...I love how this movie does bring back those innocent days and this is a beautiful addition to a great movie.
Yes much simpler time. Now excuse me. I have a movie to re watch for the … honestly don’t know how many times I have seen this movie but I am sure once more won’t hurt a thing
They do it at "quarter impulse power" so they might as well throw a good J turn about halfway out the garage and then do a couple donuts around the entire house before peeling out across the front yard like a bat out of hell
Nice to see that you took on the "full impulse" order and let the ship go quick through the dock. Really fits the reaction of that one guy in the observation lounge.
@@rightofcenter1977 I agree that .25 impulse is definitely too fast for that enclosed structure. TBH, though, that whole scene is a bit wonky no matter what. Spock asks if Saavik has ever piloted a ship out of spacedock, but said piloting consists of sitting in the captain's chair and giving a couple of orders. It seems as though the hard part is on the helmsman (unless you do something embarrassing like forget to order release of the docking clamps (or forget to release the parking brake like Sulu does in the Kelvin timeline)). Ironically, Saavik should have the training to actually pilot the Enterprise out of the spacedock. Based on everything we've seen about Starfleet Academy training, we can assume that she is versed in the fundamentals of piloting smaller craft and has sufficient proficiency to take the helm of the Enterprise in an emergency or on an off shift.
I agree that the ordered speed while leaving spacedock is very well mirrored in this cut. And yet it bugs me to see the Enterprise rush out of the dock, because the beauty of the scene lies in seeing the ship flying by in a more majestic way. It's (as far as I remember) the first scene of the movie in which the Enterprise is shown, so it's kind of a re-introduction to the Big E. And that is something that should be celebrated and not be rushed for accuracy's sake.
1/4 impulse is 1,852 kilometers per second (at least in TNG) - the space dock is about 4 kilometers wide. So they should have left space dock in around 2 milliseconds.
Jerry Goldsmith, Gene Roddenberry and thousands of fans around the Federation disagree 😂. Of course Horner made an amazing job scoring ST II & III, but when you start playing the fanfare composed by Goldsmith we all rise for the official Star Trek anthem 🖖🏻.
@@Diegosinfiltro Yeah; for the Next Generation..Horner solidified Alexander Courage's Connection to the original series by including his score in the opening.
@@Phantanos Still wish they'd asked Horner to do ST VI. Although it was still well scored. Every time I see "The Big E" amble off into the sunset on impulse power the eye is moist. Treks never been the same since.
@@trainsplanesmore Star trek 2 and Horner's score resurrected what was left of Star Trek's legacy; after Michael Eisner's meddling with the first movie almost killed it. This was fixed when Robert Wise was given the ability to make his Director's vision of Star Trek The motion picture. What Goldsmith will be remembered for is Giving the Klingon's one bad assed score!
Id love to see the look on that guys face in the lounge when the Enterprise flys by like a bat out of hell. Lol. One thing I can say after all these years the Enterprise is still a beauty.
It really hammers it out of space dock there. I appreciate the compositing and maintaining continuity with III, but the slower, lingering, graceful exit fits the mood better. You'd think they were trying to skip out on a cheque they leave so quickly in this edit.
If you remember Star Trek 6 they left space dock at 1/4 impulse and it was considered blasting out. They used the same speed here so they get that effect.
Sure, it might fit the mood, but that's not what Saavik ordered. Ramping up to 0.25c is indeed hammering. Leaping and bounding in fact. Odd for a girl who was always quoting regulations, but there you are.
I don't think Bones is sharing with anyone but the admiral. I'd like to believe that quaaludes either have come back in the 23rd century or Bone has a line on a private chemist
Picturing Kirk and Bones taking a Fear & Loathing trip in the 23rd century now. The pair of them doing discrete bumps of K while Saavik guns it out of Space dock. Spock is asking the admiral about his sniffling. Sulu's eager for his next break so he can try to catch up with the pair of em. "We were somewhere outside of the Mutara sector when the drugs began to take hold.." Khan is definitely the last person you'd want a left field encounter from after bones haphazardly fed you a sheet of acid... bat country indeed! (thanks for the day dream. I'm potentially about to lose some time to a fan fiction rabbit hole)
Remember the scene on Star Trek 6, where Valaris is questioning about impulse engines in space dock, and Kirk has the ship sail out of the space dock?. Well originally it was supposed to be Saavik in # 6. And the scene was supposed to be Kirk getting back at her for the scene from TWOK. But Saavik was replaced in # 6, so the scene kind of lost its charm. Kirk's revenge for Saavik scaring the hell out of him back in 2285 never happened. Remember she destroyed the Enterprise in the training room now she was piloting the real thing. " Jim, you need a tranquilizer ?" " no, nnnnnoo, ....ok, bones what do you got ?."
Love how fast it blows by that big viewing window. Now it makes sense why Spacedock doesn't want anything above "thrusters only" when inside. ua-cam.com/video/X3x-lIvcKr8/v-deo.html
That and given the supposed speed of impulse drive, even the few seconds it uses it from start to door, would make spacedock about 150x the size if the Earth😂
@@malcolmpaterson5881 As Impulse power is an ion drive and in the time of the movies powered by the warp engines, not by their own fusion reactor, the ship needs much more time to get to their maximum possible speed. By the way 1/4 impulse power doesn't mean 1/16th of light speed. It measn that the impulse engines run on 1/4 of their potential power. The 1/4 lightspeed cap they have is not "full impulse power", it's an arbitrary border, the helm just don't accelerated to more than 1/4th of light speed in einstein space to avoid too much time diletation problems. In fact, the Voyager for example could go up to 0,92c just with impulse drives, that's the power their fusion reactors had. 1,0 is of course not possible without a warp field, as with impulse 0,92c would need all the power any fusion reaction could ever provide, as we all know from Einstein the nearer you come to the light speed barrier in normal space, the more energy you need to accelerate. You would need more energy than there is in the universe to get to 1c without a warp bubble. So when the ship leaves Spacedock with 1/4 impulse power the Enterprise NCC 1701 of course is much slower than for example the NCC 1701 E would be. Because they talk about the acceleration factor (they always say impulse POWER, not impulse speed), like you would say: "go to full throttle". Full throttle can mean in an old steam train that you need 2min to get to 100 km/h or in the case of a bullet train, that you need 2min to get to 300 km/h, because the throttle is not an absolute value of power, but just a relative one compared to how much power your engines have. So to cut the long talk short: No, there is no supposed speed of impulse power. Just an arbitrary gap and how fast an impulse engine reaches that speed, depends on their power source.
Thrusters only in space dock! Now I understand that line, it didn't really fit when you are pulling out of basically a metal cage. But here, dang that's like wreckless driving or something. Definitely against regulations.
2 seconds after leaving spacedock doors the enterprise gets grabbed in a tractor beam "Whoa there 1701, cool your jets. The fuck you think you're doing clearing my spacedock at that speed? Your mission is scrubbed. Hope you're ready for 3 weeks of retraining and paperwork."
Really, there should be tractor beams maneuvering the ships around inside the space station, but storing the ships within the station was always a dumb idea anyway. What a waste of station space. DS9 had the right idea. Dock the ships to the exterior of the station.
They would have seen it in TWOK as one does not simply build a class prototype in the time it took the movie to play out. When TSFS was made they had to do the excelsior intro the way they did to account for how the TWOK dock scene played out.
@@kenm3245 In the novelization there's some dialogue about Sulu getting command of Excelsior. That's why in the film Kirk thanks Sulu for tagging along (the "i don't think these kids can steer" line). If I remember right he's along for the training cruiser while waiting to be formally assigned to Excelsior.
@@cyberchaplain I believe the dialogue between Kirk and Sulu went something along the lines of "I cut your orders myself, the Excelsior will be your ship" . I think I read that in a DC graphic novel that showed the period between Star Trek V and Star Trek VI, the early days of Sulu's command.
"Mr Sulu..'Indulge' yourself"......."Aye..Sir..setting course for Palm Springs..with shore leave stops in West Hollywood, Silver Lake, Santa Monica and SD Hillcrest, Sir"
Nick this is truly fantastic work! I wish my uncle, Gary Nardino were still around so we could’ve seen this. He was in charge of all things Star Trek at Paramount from 1978-1984. Everything about Star Trek II WAS OF COURSE, FIX THE MISTAKES OF THE MOTION PICTURE AND REALLY GET STAR TREK BACK ON COURSE. One of the ways they saved money was to get ILM to do all the special effects. If they had done it, in-house would’ve been twice as much and probably a quarter as good. But the work you did here was absolutely excellent. You should be very proud of. I thank you for taking the time to doing this.
Almost shed a tear. What a beautiful star ship design. By far my fave iteration of the Enterprise. I even built a full scale fully working Enterprise on minecraft with 200+ mods. XD
Never understood what Kirk was so nervous about when they left space dock…..It was literally going straight but now with this Fix it makes way more sense that he would be very tense. Great job!🎉
I imagine the dialogue was written before thought was given to the onscreen SFX, and the choice made to go for the cheapskate option and reuse footage from ST:TMP.
I don't know if I've ever written it here, but it's worth all the praise every time I write it again, because you've done an exceptional job! the Enterprise's movement on the dock, the camera shots, even why 1/4 thrust is fast for a space dock, you've thought of everything, and the sequence is magnificent! Hopefully one day we can see it on the big screen! congratulations from a brazilian fan!
Wrath of Khan has been my favorite movie all my adult life. Before that, it was Search for Spock. I love this! This fits so much better than reusing the same footage from Motion Picture. Well done!
One slight critique: In Star Trek III, it's clear that the crew outside of Adm. Kirk was seeing the Excelsior for the first time, so it probably shouldn't be seen here.
One thing that always jarred with me, was the docking scene. It was originally from the “motion picture”, and was reused for “The wrath of Khan”. Whilst it was docking for the port torpedo bay, you can clearly see it was docking for the port side engineering.
Well, the Engineering Deck is more along the Dorsal line of the hull, a few decks up. I did think it was funny they docked at the Cargo Bay airlock and got out at the Torpedo Bay ! 🤣. But they got it right in TMP because it was Made for that placement. And, why does the Torpedo Bay have two airlocks anyway ? 🤔
Very well done. The new material merged seamlessly with the original film. In my opinion, the wide shots worked a little better than the original closeups. It's amazing how far VFX have come along, and how much they accomplished with so little back in the 20th century.
MAGNIFICENT NEW EDIT!!! Thanks SO MUCH for this!! Bravo!! Well Done!! This looks EVEN BETTER than the 2006-08 remastering of the entire TOS!!!First saw this movie in Summer 1982 just after Army Basic Training.Took my teenage son to see the theater re-release 35th anniversary in 2017!! Probably THE BEST MOVIE of the entire Movie Series!!
Very well done, Nick. Brighter and more correct colors. Great sound. Evidently , you love the only uncredited cast member, the Enterprise, as much as I. Very much appreciated.
That one lone guy in the station who watches the ship go by; looks just like the same guy who does the same thing when Kirk steals the Enterprise in the next movie. I wonder what he was thinking during both scenes.
That's a possibility. There are more seasons of Lower Decks, Picard, and Discovery. We're also supposed to get "Strange new worlds" a series featuring the Enterprise with Pike and Spock, so after "The Cage" maybe? I'd love to see a series with Saavik as Captain set after the Voyage Home possibly. With the long Vulcan life span, Robin Curtis could totally reprise the role in Picard Season 2, voice the role if she appears on Lower Decks, or if they pick up any other stories in the TNG/DS9/VOY/LD time frame. For a while I've wanted to a series with Sulu captaining the Excelsior. Saavik would be a fun addition to that crew. We don't have too much experience with 2 vulcans on a crew. Would Saavik get along with Tuvok? Hilliard, if you got your wish, what ship would she be captaining?
Wow. Who knew someone could yeet a starship, but when you request any impulse speed inside the star base, I guess that’s what you would really get. Great job!
That was a triumphantly, fitting way to begin the best ever Star Trek movie. And the music made it even more memorable. But it would also be one of the last times we’d see this particular Enterprise in such mint condition. It wasn’t long before Khan would batter the smithereens out of it and then in the next movie, it’d be gone forever 😢.
Excellent improvement in scenes and pace of space dock ship movements. So much more energetic than the slower camera movements from 80s. Loved watching this!
This just reinforces how important the DP UNITY edit was. Not only does it predate this , but it actually did fix many things. There's very little here that can be taken seriously.
@@76TomD Audio's ok in that link, and there's no reason you couldn't put the audio back in, even with the cut to the exterior shot, the video could return in time to match lip-synch.
I think the big reason not to add it in was for STIII, Excelsior was to be a prototype transwarp ship and they wouldn't have given command to a newly minted captain. Even one with such a record as Sulu's. I think any other ship it would've been fine but not Excelsior.
It is indeed, But, as Kirk would say " Risk is their business". Personally, I can't think of anything more risky (or embarrassing) than hitting the spacedock doors on the way out. Believe thngs like that qualify for the galaxywide Ship Deck Klutz Award.
As a kid i wore out 2 vhs tapes of star trek 2... and this was done so well, and made me very happy.. tho it did seem like they may have been doing half impulse out of spacedock. Lol Thank you for this masterpiece.
Hi Nick, That's really fantastic, what you have done makes much more sense. If I had one criticism as the Enterprise passes the window it seemed a little jerky almost too fast, any chance of slowing it down a tad. Bear in mind I have no idea where to even start with this sort of thing or how difficult it would be to do what you have done.
@@Username3141519 She's on 1/4 impulse power. The speed is perfect. In the theatrical cut, she was too slow. I'm not sure how long it takes for a starship to reach full velocity from a stop but it would seem to me it should be instantaneous.
Great work Nick - shame they didn't have the budget in 1981/2 to put it in themselves Sorry I have just one niggle - they wouldn't be coming through the main doors of Spacedock with a la'al shuttle pod like that - they'd beam to Spacedock & take the shuttle pod from an airlock to the Enterprise - see end of Star Trek 4. It was brilliant video nevertheless. Great work
Initially I was watching this wondering what changed. Then there was the comparison, and I realized the main thing that changed was that I was no longer bored out of my skull. Great job! Is the full edit available anywhere or did you just do this scene?
I would actually take thoose remade scenes and cut them into the real movie and make it so much better. Just that scene alone makes the movie so much better :)
To be moderately fair . . . I think 'being bored out of your skull' was part of the point. Sort of leaning into that sense of age, that even coming aboard the Enterprise was no longer the magnificent thing to Kirk that it SHOULD have been.
Dang, this almost gave me goosebumps, it was done so well. Seeing this, It's almost a shame they didn't come up with Spacedock until the third movie. And it's amazing how well you duplicated some of the exterior scenes, spot on.
I remember seeing a clip somewhere that Spock's Mother Amanda saying that " Spock was the class clown and prankster when he was younger " . Now this video makes even more since .
I like the way things can be changed so easy now days, But the speeded up bits did look a bit odd and that let it down for me but still good work you did on it.
Most excellent! I remember when the film originally came out, it was largely “Enterprise topside, bottom side, left side, right side, right underside angle, top overlook angle, dead on, rear bottom angle…”. Your shots make more sense, give the great scope of space and size, and STORY! Excellent!
Excellent, though to be nit-picky some of the scenes didn't have smooth transitions. For instance once the Enterprise was outside the dock she turned and flew beneath the main area but the next shot showed her moving directly away. Definite mis-match. Otherwise well-done.
I just noticed/posted the same observation. For sure, the directions don’t seem to line up. It works in III because she’s backing out of Spacedock and we don’t have the subsequent shot with the spacedoors rotating away.
There are enough comments already about the speed limit in spacedock, so I will simply say…AWESOME! Love this movie and your reimagined sequence. Nicely done! 👍
You have it the other way around. Also the character of Valeris was orignally Saavik. Funnily enough Kim Cattrall auditioned for Saavik in TWOK but Kirsty Alley got the part. Then later on was briefly recast again for Saavik in TUC. They didnt bother contacting Robin Curtis who replaced Alley in the next two films. By the time TUC was being cast, it was decided another actress playing Saavik was'nt a good idea and fans would have hated if she had been a traitor to Spock and Star Fleet.
@@ameliashephard2876 The original footage of Saavik taking Enterprise out of Spacedock was a more leisurely pace. This redo, which I really liked, had Enterprise barreling out. Nice touch with the other trainees added in to look like they are worried as she did this.
My logic was it was there under construction. Remember in the timeline the events of ST III are only months away. Sulu clearly heard about the ship and maybe Uhura wasn't paying attention. Plus I needed that shot!
@@NickAcosta-Films Could be, yeah. I would think new starships would be constructed in drydocks. But maybe Excelsior being a new, possibly classified thing, they would want it hidden from random eyes. It all looks great though :) Months? I figured III was just a few days after II. Kirk mentioned having to go rescue the crew of the Reliant, but then they'd come home right after that.
I also forgot that the actual "space dock" was still that weird thing that they were parked in in ST2. Amazing work on this! Truly breathing new life into some classics of my all time favorite franchise!
The only problem I have is that Star Flee regulations clearly state that while at Starbase never use anything but maneuvering thrusters. Never ever use impulse engines.
I was blessed to see Star Trek in the theaters from a special matinee at the historic Grand theater in 1980 thru Star Trek 3 & 4 at the Marcus during the holidays. I was also blessed having my Dad's parent's take me to see ST 2: TWOK opening night in tiny Medford WI. A modern Miracle as my Dad and his Pops watched ST classic first run and I was 2nd gen actually watching in syndication. Grandma absolutely Hated Trek, but was convinced to go with the 2 generations of Trekkie's. The miracle was not only that she went but she LOVED TWOK & Trek (except the space slugs lol). The film had a huge impact on me, even though I was really enthused about the motion picture in 80. I was upset at Spock's death and it was a shock for an 11 yr old boy, but by the time we got home this logical mind had an epiphany> I proudly told them before bedtime that Spock wasn't dead at all. They presented the facts as they saw it: Spock's heroic sacrifice and death, the military funeral with honors (bagpipes Grins), and the appearance of Spock's credits at the end. I proudly proclaimed that Spock would return somehow because Genesis (in the film sense) meant Life from Lifelessness. Pops looked at me and says: you know, my boy might be correct as Nimoy had a large part in the creation of the film. Makes no sense for a main character to be killed off. This didn't help M*A*S*H initially with Henry Blake. My grandfather was the Professor. Of course, being the logical yet emotional boy I was it turned out to be right. Boldly going into the Trek universe still at almost age 50.
I didn’t realize until midway that the space dock wasn’t the original, couldn’t tell what was changed. Good work. To be fair I’m pretty high though.
Thanks. And I found my pinned comment for this video!
😂👍🏻
Dude. Star Trek is the best after hi-fidelity hybrids
Being an old time Star Trek fan, and have seen "The Wrath of Khan" several times, ................seeing the old girl make these new moves brought " A tear to me eyes ." YOU DID HER PROUD. great job.😄 fan since 1973.
Thank you. These are the nicest comments I’ve had yet.
Not only was this the best ST movie on terms of the storyline and plot, but the music is INCREDIBLE! Especially when the Enterprise sneaks up from below/behind the Reliant. Thank you, James Horner!
One of the greatest soundtracks of ALL time! I recommend this sound track to anybody
I rather liked the score to Battle Beyond the Stars.
But this is...[dramatic pause] *almost* as good.
Stealing the Enterprise in ST3 is my favorite music from ST.
RIP James Horner. I have always loved your journeys.
I was just saying that..!!!!!!!
This movie came out in a simpler time of life, when I see clips of this movie and hear the music I remember vmy childhood and how much I miss those less complicated days..... never grow up it's a trap
That, it is.
Just keep in mind that it only seems simpler because you were a kid. In reality, it was just as complicated a time as today, sometimes even more so depending on exactly when, but you were too young and simplistic, yourself, to notice.
@@genostellar different times different problems. But even my elders agree this is very disturbing times compared to now. If only we had the simplistic views of youth. But the cold War,and watching the rise of terrorism from the mid east to see it grow to this today is sad
Very much of one...everyone is in such a rush to grow and for what...to look back and see how much has changed and how much has been lost with the innocence of childhood...I love how this movie does bring back those innocent days and this is a beautiful addition to a great movie.
Yes much simpler time. Now excuse me. I have a movie to re watch for the … honestly don’t know how many times I have seen this movie but I am sure once more won’t hurt a thing
I like the fact Saavik took the Enterprise the same way Kirk would have and always did: over the speed limit.
"Mr sulu you may indulge yourself." "Eye sir setting course for Klingon space."
'Aye'.
Oh myyyy
"Mr. Sulu, you may indulge yourself."
"Uh...in front of everybody?!"
@@smithwriter69 damn man why didn't I think of that one lol oh my god lol
Setting course for Risa!
The way the Enterprise left space dock is like backing out a stingray corvette at 60 mph before the garage door even opens lmaoo
Probably gave the hanger bay control officers a heart attack Heh
@@UNSCPILOTor a good case of agita.
Lt. Saavik was a follower of the Kirk Doctrine of leaving Space Dock as quickly and as impressively as possible...
She was showing off.
Female drivers
They do it at "quarter impulse power" so they might as well throw a good J turn about halfway out the garage and then do a couple donuts around the entire house before peeling out across the front yard like a bat out of hell
Nice to see that you took on the "full impulse" order and let the ship go quick through the dock. Really fits the reaction of that one guy in the observation lounge.
Agree! Impulse power is too fast and the scene relayed that well.
@@rightofcenter1977 I agree that .25 impulse is definitely too fast for that enclosed structure. TBH, though, that whole scene is a bit wonky no matter what. Spock asks if Saavik has ever piloted a ship out of spacedock, but said piloting consists of sitting in the captain's chair and giving a couple of orders. It seems as though the hard part is on the helmsman (unless you do something embarrassing like forget to order release of the docking clamps (or forget to release the parking brake like Sulu does in the Kelvin timeline)).
Ironically, Saavik should have the training to actually pilot the Enterprise out of the spacedock. Based on everything we've seen about Starfleet Academy training, we can assume that she is versed in the fundamentals of piloting smaller craft and has sufficient proficiency to take the helm of the Enterprise in an emergency or on an off shift.
Warp speed Mr Scott.
But sir we're still in spacedock
You heard me Mister
I agree that the ordered speed while leaving spacedock is very well mirrored in this cut. And yet it bugs me to see the Enterprise rush out of the dock, because the beauty of the scene lies in seeing the ship flying by in a more majestic way. It's (as far as I remember) the first scene of the movie in which the Enterprise is shown, so it's kind of a re-introduction to the Big E. And that is something that should be celebrated and not be rushed for accuracy's sake.
1/4 impulse is 1,852 kilometers per second (at least in TNG) - the space dock is about 4 kilometers wide. So they should have left space dock in around 2 milliseconds.
James Horner's Music gave Star Trek it's mojo back and electrified the fans worldwide!
Jerry Goldsmith, Gene Roddenberry and thousands of fans around the Federation disagree 😂. Of course Horner made an amazing job scoring ST II & III, but when you start playing the fanfare composed by Goldsmith we all rise for the official Star Trek anthem 🖖🏻.
@@Diegosinfiltro Yeah; for the Next Generation..Horner solidified Alexander Courage's Connection to the original series by including his score in the opening.
@@Phantanos Still wish they'd asked Horner to do ST VI. Although it was still well scored.
Every time I see "The Big E" amble off into the sunset on impulse power the eye is moist.
Treks never been the same since.
@@Diegosinfiltro Horner's music is perfectly fine. But, Goldsmith's is classic Trek music and classic all-time film score music.
@@trainsplanesmore Star trek 2 and Horner's score resurrected what was left of Star Trek's legacy; after Michael Eisner's meddling with the first movie almost killed it. This was fixed when Robert Wise was given the ability to make his Director's vision of Star Trek The motion picture. What Goldsmith will be remembered for is Giving the Klingon's one bad assed score!
Id love to see the look on that guys face in the lounge when the Enterprise flys by like a bat out of hell. Lol. One thing I can say after all these years the Enterprise is still a beauty.
Hands down the best starship design in the entire franchise. The refit Enterprise doesn't have a bad angle - absolute perfection! 🖖
MAVERICK!!!!!
It really hammers it out of space dock there. I appreciate the compositing and maintaining continuity with III, but the slower, lingering, graceful exit fits the mood better. You'd think they were trying to skip out on a cheque they leave so quickly in this edit.
If you remember Star Trek 6 they left space dock at 1/4 impulse and it was considered blasting out. They used the same speed here so they get that effect.
I totally agree, a slower pace will suit the exit much better, try that even if you have to cut few scenes,
Sure, it might fit the mood, but that's not what Saavik ordered. Ramping up to 0.25c is indeed hammering. Leaping and bounding in fact. Odd for a girl who was always quoting regulations, but there you are.
You just know Sulu wanted to blast the Spacedock doors with photon torpedoes when he was smiling. :)
bones getting his crew addicted to valium on the first day
I don't think Bones is sharing with anyone but the admiral. I'd like to believe that quaaludes either have come back in the 23rd century or Bone has a line on a private chemist
Picturing Kirk and Bones taking a Fear & Loathing trip in the 23rd century now. The pair of them doing discrete bumps of K while Saavik guns it out of Space dock. Spock is asking the admiral about his sniffling. Sulu's eager for his next break so he can try to catch up with the pair of em. "We were somewhere outside of the Mutara sector when the drugs began to take hold.." Khan is definitely the last person you'd want a left field encounter from after bones haphazardly fed you a sheet of acid... bat country indeed! (thanks for the day dream. I'm potentially about to lose some time to a fan fiction rabbit hole)
@Daniel Rodriguez Bashir and Wesley Crusher making Ketracil white in an old Runabout?? Garak would be ermantrout.
Well that one episode he shot everyone with speed
Remember the scene on Star Trek 6, where Valaris is questioning about impulse engines in space dock, and Kirk has the ship sail out of the space dock?. Well originally it was supposed to be Saavik in # 6. And the scene was supposed to be Kirk getting back at her for the scene from TWOK.
But Saavik was replaced in # 6, so the scene kind of lost its charm.
Kirk's revenge for Saavik scaring the hell out of him back in 2285 never happened. Remember she destroyed the Enterprise in the training room now she was piloting the real thing.
" Jim, you need a tranquilizer ?"
" no, nnnnnoo, ....ok, bones what do you got ?."
Wonderful job. The enhanced colors and editing overall would have won you several awards had you done this in '82.
Love how fast it blows by that big viewing window. Now it makes sense why Spacedock doesn't want anything above "thrusters only" when inside. ua-cam.com/video/X3x-lIvcKr8/v-deo.html
That and given the supposed speed of impulse drive, even the few seconds it uses it from start to door, would make spacedock about 150x the size if the Earth😂
@@malcolmpaterson5881 As Impulse power is an ion drive and in the time of the movies powered by the warp engines, not by their own fusion reactor, the ship needs much more time to get to their maximum possible speed.
By the way 1/4 impulse power doesn't mean 1/16th of light speed. It measn that the impulse engines run on 1/4 of their potential power. The 1/4 lightspeed cap they have is not "full impulse power", it's an arbitrary border, the helm just don't accelerated to more than 1/4th of light speed in einstein space to avoid too much time diletation problems.
In fact, the Voyager for example could go up to 0,92c just with impulse drives, that's the power their fusion reactors had. 1,0 is of course not possible without a warp field, as with impulse 0,92c would need all the power any fusion reaction could ever provide, as we all know from Einstein the nearer you come to the light speed barrier in normal space, the more energy you need to accelerate. You would need more energy than there is in the universe to get to 1c without a warp bubble.
So when the ship leaves Spacedock with 1/4 impulse power the Enterprise NCC 1701 of course is much slower than for example the NCC 1701 E would be. Because they talk about the acceleration factor (they always say impulse POWER, not impulse speed), like you would say: "go to full throttle". Full throttle can mean in an old steam train that you need 2min to get to 100 km/h or in the case of a bullet train, that you need 2min to get to 300 km/h, because the throttle is not an absolute value of power, but just a relative one compared to how much power your engines have.
So to cut the long talk short: No, there is no supposed speed of impulse power. Just an arbitrary gap and how fast an impulse engine reaches that speed, depends on their power source.
"DANGER SPACE DOORS ARE CLOSED, DANGER SPACE DOORS ARE CLOSED"
Thrusters only in space dock! Now I understand that line, it didn't really fit when you are pulling out of basically a metal cage. But here, dang that's like wreckless driving or something. Definitely against regulations.
That's Acosta's fault for doing an exterior sequence that does not match the original plot.
In Kerbal terms, its like docking using only the main engine, no RCS.
Not necessarily, you wouldn't really want the thrust from an engine that can put out .25 light speed in a metal cage either.
Then again that's basically the Enterprise crew in a nutshell;
*"What regulations?"*
@@iainbagnall4825 to be fair, there are a couple Kerbal youtubers that can do fast docking with just the engine, it's bonkers
Thrusters only in Space Dock, that Lieutenant would be REAMED.
2 seconds after leaving spacedock doors the enterprise gets grabbed in a tractor beam
"Whoa there 1701, cool your jets. The fuck you think you're doing clearing my spacedock at that speed? Your mission is scrubbed. Hope you're ready for 3 weeks of retraining and paperwork."
Don't blame her. In the original movie release the Enterprise was never in Space Dock but in open space having already cleared the scaffold.
Never seen any of the ships ever leave space that in that much of a hurry, that includes when Kirk stole the Enterprise.
Yeah... she would have ended up on some entertainment channel getting fat...
...then maybe thinner again, selling Weight Loss products...
Really, there should be tractor beams maneuvering the ships around inside the space station, but storing the ships within the station was always a dumb idea anyway. What a waste of station space. DS9 had the right idea. Dock the ships to the exterior of the station.
Beautiful work! My only criticism is the inclusion of the Excelsior; based on Kirk's dialog from STIII, the rest of the crew hadn't seen her before.
Originally they were to have seen her in II as Sulu’s ship but the scene was either cut or never filmed.
They would have seen it in TWOK as one does not simply build a class prototype in the time it took the movie to play out. When TSFS was made they had to do the excelsior intro the way they did to account for how the TWOK dock scene played out.
@@kenm3245 In the novelization there's some dialogue about Sulu getting command of Excelsior. That's why in the film Kirk thanks Sulu for tagging along (the "i don't think these kids can steer" line). If I remember right he's along for the training cruiser while waiting to be formally assigned to Excelsior.
@@kenm3245 It was filmed! ua-cam.com/video/_rrjzF9yAr0/v-deo.html
@@cyberchaplain I believe the dialogue between Kirk and Sulu went something along the lines of "I cut your orders myself, the Excelsior will be your ship" . I think I read that in a DC graphic novel that showed the period between Star Trek V and Star Trek VI, the early days of Sulu's command.
"Mr Sulu..'Indulge' yourself"......."Aye..Sir..setting course for Palm Springs..with shore leave stops in West Hollywood, Silver Lake, Santa Monica and SD Hillcrest, Sir"
This is magnificent work. What I like is that you've significantly improved the original, while remaining completely respectful to it in every way.
"Mr Sulu, you may indulge yourself."
"Thank you, but I'm busy flying a spaceship at the moment."
I'll see myself out.
"Oh my."
Wonder if they have pornhub in 24th century. Heck, they got rigellian dancers. And the lady that worked at quark's
@@seanraines5871 It's called a holodeck.
@@thegreatbamboozler4837 mr laforge better not be caught in there with that top lady engineer he liked. Forget her name.
@@seanraines5871 Dr Brahms, LeAnn Brahms, I think??? It's too late to ask Mr Google
That's perfect. I love how they rushed out of spacedock. After all "regulations state that only thrusters are allowed in spacedock." STVI
That was Kirks revenge Spock for Savik in Spacedock.
Nick this is truly fantastic work! I wish my uncle, Gary Nardino were still around so we could’ve seen this. He was in charge of all things Star Trek at Paramount from 1978-1984. Everything about Star Trek II WAS OF COURSE, FIX THE MISTAKES OF THE MOTION PICTURE AND REALLY GET STAR TREK BACK ON COURSE. One of the ways they saved money was to get ILM to do all the special effects. If they had done it, in-house would’ve been twice as much and probably a quarter as good. But the work you did here was absolutely excellent. You should be very proud of. I thank you for taking the time to doing this.
Almost shed a tear. What a beautiful star ship design. By far my fave iteration of the Enterprise. I even built a full scale fully working Enterprise on minecraft with 200+ mods. XD
Never understood what Kirk was so nervous about when they left space dock…..It was literally going straight but now with this Fix it makes way more sense that he would be very tense. Great job!🎉
I imagine the dialogue was written before thought was given to the onscreen SFX, and the choice made to go for the cheapskate option and reuse footage from ST:TMP.
Yes, and it's Sulu steering, not Saavik, and a veteran helmsman like him is not going to prang the Enterprise leaving Space Dock 🙂
I don't know if I've ever written it here, but it's worth all the praise every time I write it again, because you've done an exceptional job! the Enterprise's movement on the dock, the camera shots, even why 1/4 thrust is fast for a space dock, you've thought of everything, and the sequence is magnificent! Hopefully one day we can see it on the big screen! congratulations from a brazilian fan!
Never understood why Kirk was so nervous about Savvik taking the chair when Sulu was the one doing the actual piloting.
Wrath of Khan has been my favorite movie all my adult life. Before that, it was Search for Spock. I love this! This fits so much better than reusing the same footage from Motion Picture. Well done!
One slight critique: In Star Trek III, it's clear that the crew outside of Adm. Kirk was seeing the Excelsior for the first time, so it probably shouldn't be seen here.
One thing that always jarred with me, was the docking scene. It was originally from the “motion picture”, and was reused for “The wrath of Khan”. Whilst it was docking for the port torpedo bay, you can clearly see it was docking for the port side engineering.
It also casts no shadow when it flies through the spotlight
Yeah there's no arguing with that torpedo door and rail, not to mention the SIGN 😂 Kinda lost your way there Sulu ...
Well, the Engineering Deck is more along the Dorsal line of the hull, a few decks up. I did think it was funny they docked at the Cargo Bay airlock and got out at the Torpedo Bay ! 🤣. But they got it right in TMP because it was Made for that placement.
And, why does the Torpedo Bay have two airlocks anyway ? 🤔
Tight budget on Star Trek II.. recycle!
Wrath of Khan had a severely slashed budget compared with The Motion Picture.
That music, though. It evokes such emotion.
yep, something that just doesn't exist anymore, this had me whooping
Sooooooo true!
It really does!
Strangely enough, your cut makes better continuity. It flows better.
Didn't even notice that it was much changed from the original, it was that good
🖖
Very well done. The new material merged seamlessly with the original film. In my opinion, the wide shots worked a little better than the original closeups. It's amazing how far VFX have come along, and how much they accomplished with so little back in the 20th century.
With that shot of the Excelsior, it would be really cool to have Sulu’s cut dialogue reinserted there.
Bones: But you're Asian. You're not intact?
Sulu: No, doctor, I am cut.
MAGNIFICENT NEW EDIT!!! Thanks SO MUCH for this!! Bravo!! Well Done!! This looks EVEN BETTER than the 2006-08 remastering of the entire TOS!!!First saw this movie in Summer 1982 just after Army Basic Training.Took my teenage son to see the theater re-release 35th anniversary in 2017!! Probably THE BEST MOVIE of the entire Movie Series!!
One of my favorite scenes from one of my favorite movies, and you just made it better👍 Well done!
Very well done, Nick. Brighter and more correct colors. Great sound. Evidently , you love the only uncredited cast member, the Enterprise, as much as I. Very much appreciated.
Thanks!
I always knew who the star of the show was❤
Well Done!!! The old girl and crew always make me smile!
"Would you like a tranquilliser?" Nice touch!
The shot at 0:27 is just glorious. Maybe a tad dark but really epic.
All the main lights were off and didnt turn on until a bit later. But I know what you mean
That one lone guy in the station who watches the ship go by; looks just like the same guy who does the same thing when Kirk steals the Enterprise in the next movie.
I wonder what he was thinking during both scenes.
Great job. Love the '...tranquilliser...' line gets me every time :)
Astounding and perfect. I hope you get to make more movies. Well done 😊
Very nicely accomplished! I particularly liked how you've made 1/4 Impulse a seriously fast speed for Spacedock!
1/4 impulse is a seriously fast speed leaving Space dock.
too fast, in fact...
RIP, James Horner - your score for this movie was excellent !
Beautiful Work!
🖖😎👍Very totally cool and very nicely spectaculary wonderfully well done indeed Sir!.
Lovely touch up! Great work and well done!!
"Regulations Specify THRUSTERS ONLY while in Spacedock." Great Work!
I really would have loved to see Saavik as a Captain 😓
The Kirstie Alley version.
That's a possibility. There are more seasons of Lower Decks, Picard, and Discovery. We're also supposed to get "Strange new worlds" a series featuring the Enterprise with Pike and Spock, so after "The Cage" maybe? I'd love to see a series with Saavik as Captain set after the Voyage Home possibly. With the long Vulcan life span, Robin Curtis could totally reprise the role in Picard Season 2, voice the role if she appears on Lower Decks, or if they pick up any other stories in the TNG/DS9/VOY/LD time frame. For a while I've wanted to a series with Sulu captaining the Excelsior. Saavik would be a fun addition to that crew. We don't have too much experience with 2 vulcans on a crew. Would Saavik get along with Tuvok?
Hilliard, if you got your wish, what ship would she be captaining?
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I doubt they’ll reprise Robin Curtis or Saavik
She looks about the right age now to play Savik on Picard. R U Listening CBS/Paramount. Pay Kirstie her due ( no Robin Curtis BS. We Want Kirstie!!)
Whatever did happen with Saavik after STIII?
Wow. Who knew someone could yeet a starship, but when you request any impulse speed inside the star base, I guess that’s what you would really get. Great job!
That was fun. Thanks
That was a triumphantly, fitting way to begin the best ever Star Trek movie. And the music made it even more memorable. But it would also be one of the last times we’d see this particular Enterprise in such mint condition. It wasn’t long before Khan would batter the smithereens out of it and then in the next movie, it’d be gone forever 😢.
Seamless and beautiful except for the shot from Star Trek III which put them facing the wrong direction
Excellent improvement in scenes and pace of space dock ship movements. So much more energetic than the slower camera movements from 80s. Loved watching this!
Very nice!
This just reinforces how important the DP UNITY edit was. Not only does it predate this , but it actually did fix many things. There's very little here that can be taken seriously.
If you were going to alter it, why didn't you add back the footage of them talking about Sulu's promotion?
As far as i've found there's only audio of that dialogue and it's poor quality
@@NickAcosta-Films ua-cam.com/video/_rrjzF9yAr0/v-deo.html Sulu's missing scene
@@76TomD Audio's ok in that link, and there's no reason you couldn't put the audio back in, even with the cut to the exterior shot, the video could return in time to match lip-synch.
@@jiminverness That's what I thought as well
I think the big reason not to add it in was for STIII, Excelsior was to be a prototype transwarp ship and they wouldn't have given command to a newly minted captain. Even one with such a record as Sulu's. I think any other ship it would've been fine but not Excelsior.
These movies were so perfect.
I get all choked up in these scenes.
Savik calls for 1/4 impulse power in space dock...that's against regulations.
It is indeed, But, as Kirk would say " Risk is their business". Personally, I can't think of anything more risky (or embarrassing) than hitting the spacedock doors on the way out. Believe thngs like that qualify for the galaxywide Ship Deck Klutz Award.
As a kid i wore out 2 vhs tapes of star trek 2... and this was done so well, and made me very happy.. tho it did seem like they may have been doing half impulse out of spacedock. Lol
Thank you for this masterpiece.
What they did is reused scenes from the first movie. On Wrath of Khan it makes more sense for the Enterprise to be in spacedock, not the drydock.
Precisely
🖖😎👍Very cool and very nicely greatly well done and executed in every detail way shape and format provided indeed Sir!👌.
I like Nick's cut better. Very nice job.
WOW! This was far more better than the original! Good Job!!
McCoy: Damn it jim we're going to fast.
Kirk: We're going to slow bones.
$pock: Fascinating
Sulu:😒
Showing the Enterprise from the lower deck forward side was so beautiful. I am in tears
Hi Nick, That's really fantastic, what you have done makes much more sense. If I had one criticism as the Enterprise passes the window it seemed a little jerky almost too fast, any chance of slowing it down a tad. Bear in mind I have no idea where to even start with this sort of thing or how difficult it would be to do what you have done.
Came here to say that. She's literally sprinting out of spacedock.
@@Username3141519 She's on 1/4 impulse power. The speed is perfect. In the theatrical cut, she was too slow. I'm not sure how long it takes for a starship to reach full velocity from a stop but it would seem to me it should be instantaneous.
Great work Nick - shame they didn't have the budget in 1981/2 to put it in themselves
Sorry I have just one niggle - they wouldn't be coming through the main doors of Spacedock with a la'al shuttle pod like that - they'd beam to Spacedock & take the shuttle pod from an airlock to the Enterprise - see end of Star Trek 4.
It was brilliant video nevertheless. Great work
@@1701Wren I would take theese scenes and put them into the movie myself to be honest. He made a realy good job here :)
yes that was terrible. and also far too fast exiting the spacedoors. that just ruined it.
Accidentally had this on 1.5X speed. The dining hall scene is even better. Nice work!
Initially I was watching this wondering what changed. Then there was the comparison, and I realized the main thing that changed was that I was no longer bored out of my skull. Great job! Is the full edit available anywhere or did you just do this scene?
Sorry just this scene for now
I would actually take thoose remade scenes and cut them into the real movie and make it so much better. Just that scene alone makes the movie so much better :)
To be moderately fair . . . I think 'being bored out of your skull' was part of the point. Sort of leaning into that sense of age, that even coming aboard the Enterprise was no longer the magnificent thing to Kirk that it SHOULD have been.
Dang, this almost gave me goosebumps, it was done so well. Seeing this, It's almost a shame they didn't come up with Spacedock until the third movie. And it's amazing how well you duplicated some of the exterior scenes, spot on.
Since you showed Excelsior I think you were itching to add the lost footage of Kirk mentioning that Sulu will be taking command of Excelsior 😉
I remember seeing a clip somewhere that Spock's Mother Amanda saying that " Spock was the class clown and prankster when he was younger " .
Now this video makes even more since .
I like the way things can be changed so easy now days, But the speeded up bits did look a bit odd and that let it down for me but still good work you did on it.
Most excellent! I remember when the film originally came out, it was largely “Enterprise topside, bottom side, left side, right side, right underside angle, top overlook angle, dead on, rear bottom angle…”. Your shots make more sense, give the great scope of space and size, and STORY! Excellent!
Excellent, though to be nit-picky some of the scenes didn't have smooth transitions. For instance once the Enterprise was outside the dock she turned and flew beneath the main area but the next shot showed her moving directly away. Definite mis-match. Otherwise well-done.
Exactly!
I just noticed/posted the same observation. For sure, the directions don’t seem to line up. It works in III because she’s backing out of Spacedock and we don’t have the subsequent shot with the spacedoors rotating away.
There are enough comments already about the speed limit in spacedock, so I will simply say…AWESOME! Love this movie and your reimagined sequence. Nicely done! 👍
Thanks Paul!
You really hit the musical queue well leaving space dock. It's too bad you could not extend the new footage to match the original score.
Very cool! I never imagined Khan could be improved, but this is great.
Gentlemen, way the wind be on our backs. Stations please😎
Engage Auto Systems....
Aye... Engaged!
Clear All moorings....
Cleared sir.
One quarter impulse power.....
DUDE. I have NO idea why I'm just seing this now, but that was fucking on point. Absolutely first rate work, truly. Hope you have a job in the field.
It looks beautiful,but boy does it feel weird ...lol
Nicely done. Seeing the Enterprise in all her glory is a must-see.
Whoa, Saavik pulled a Valaris outta there, didn't she? :D
You have it the other way around. Also the character of Valeris was orignally Saavik.
Funnily enough Kim Cattrall auditioned for Saavik in TWOK but Kirsty Alley got the part. Then later on was briefly recast again for Saavik in TUC. They didnt bother contacting Robin Curtis who replaced Alley in the next two films.
By the time TUC was being cast, it was decided another actress playing Saavik was'nt a good idea and fans would have hated if she had been a traitor to Spock and Star Fleet.
@@ameliashephard2876 The original footage of Saavik taking Enterprise out of Spacedock was a more leisurely pace. This redo, which I really liked, had Enterprise barreling out. Nice touch with the other trainees added in to look like they are worried as she did this.
I forgot that the space dock didn't appear until Search for Spock. Amazing edit! You worked well with what you had!
Kinda rough on the editing but great video. 🖖
I'll always love that look on Kirk's face at 3:01. "You're letting this CHILD pilot MY baby out of space dock?"
Sorry Nick, not a fan here, the Theatrical cut is much more inclusive of the Enterprise
If I didn't know better. I'd say it is an excellent cut. And worthy of the big screen.
Cool :) But, the Excelsior? They hadn't really seen it til they got back in ST:III.....
My logic was it was there under construction. Remember in the timeline the events of ST III are only months away. Sulu clearly heard about the ship and maybe Uhura wasn't paying attention. Plus I needed that shot!
@@NickAcosta-Films Could be, yeah. I would think new starships would be constructed in drydocks. But maybe Excelsior being a new, possibly classified thing, they would want it hidden from random eyes. It all looks great though :)
Months? I figured III was just a few days after II. Kirk mentioned having to go rescue the crew of the Reliant, but then they'd come home right after that.
I also forgot that the actual "space dock" was still that weird thing that they were parked in in ST2. Amazing work on this! Truly breathing new life into some classics of my all time favorite franchise!
Great Job Nick!
Thanks!
I remember seeing this with my dad at the theater can never forget that Horner soundtrack, nice job!
Huh. I literally watched it again last month & didn't even remember that it wasn't Earth Spacedock in the original film. Very well done sir.
3:38 that guy is like “ oh geez, there goes the Enterprise, flying out like a bat out hell per usual.”
Very good! I never did like the little space man waving. Love it. Even the going by the guy inside the windows was great. Made it a little more epic.
Nice work. One of my favorite scenes in that movie.
The only problem I have is that Star Flee regulations clearly state that while at Starbase never use anything but maneuvering thrusters. Never ever use impulse engines.
I was blessed to see Star Trek in the theaters from a special matinee at the historic Grand theater in 1980 thru Star Trek 3 & 4 at the Marcus during the holidays. I was also blessed having my Dad's parent's take me to see ST 2: TWOK opening night in tiny Medford WI. A modern Miracle as my Dad and his Pops watched ST classic first run and I was 2nd gen actually watching in syndication. Grandma absolutely Hated Trek, but was convinced to go with the 2 generations of Trekkie's. The miracle was not only that she went but she LOVED TWOK & Trek (except the space slugs lol). The film had a huge impact on me, even though I was really enthused about the motion picture in 80. I was upset at Spock's death and it was a shock for an 11 yr old boy, but by the time we got home this logical mind had an epiphany> I proudly told them before bedtime that Spock wasn't dead at all. They presented the facts as they saw it: Spock's heroic sacrifice and death, the military funeral with honors (bagpipes Grins), and the appearance of Spock's credits at the end. I proudly proclaimed that Spock would return somehow because Genesis (in the film sense) meant Life from Lifelessness. Pops looked at me and says: you know, my boy might be correct as Nimoy had a large part in the creation of the film. Makes no sense for a main character to be killed off. This didn't help M*A*S*H initially with Henry Blake. My grandfather was the Professor. Of course, being the logical yet emotional boy I was it turned out to be right. Boldly going into the Trek universe still at almost age 50.
I love it when people do things like this. The original, plus. Nice job!
Excellent job! Reminds of the Star Trek that I loved!!