I have a gen 1,2 and 5, the 1 and 2 are twice as powerful as the 5 due to the breech on the 1 and 2 having a "claw" that pulls the magazine onto the breech face. The 1 and 2 have a breech seal, the 5 doesnt and has a breech/magazine gap of 1.2mm allowing a lot of the co2 to escape. The best by far is a Gen1 with bakelite grips. Just my opinion
@@bigman6199 Gen 1 is 98/99 (first 2 digits of serial no.) with machine marks in slide where breech block has been machined out, Gen 2 is 00 onwards with a cast slide ( there abouts)
Hello. Thank you for you video. Your generation 4 has a higher serial number than the gen 5. (First two numbers) - what do you think? Also - I'm thinking of getting one - but the cut in the frame (magazine port) on the gen5 puts me off. You don't seem to mind? Thanks
I think the reason for the Gen 5 having an earlier date stamped on it is because the gen 5 are made from decommissioned pistols which were then converted to CO2 guns. So the Gen 5 pieces can all have a history attached to them where they once belonged to an officer or soldier at one time, which accounts for the earlier dates. When you receive a Gen 5 pistol, it's not a shiny new item. It has scratches all over the body and Bakelite grip. So these are recycled for sure, which i think is cool. I'm not an expert, but my opinion is the Gen 5 is the only Generation created in this manner; from actual recycled pistols. All the other Generations are indeed made in the Bakial factory like the Gen five is. But I don't believe they are from recycled pistols. I believe they are manufactured as CO2 guns from the start, and not recycled in any way, not even the Gen 1 which I own 2 of and is the most sought after by collectors. The fram is a bit of a put off, but it's not a deal breaker. For me...I think the Gen 5 is the best of all the Generations. but the Gen 1's are worth more. That's my opinion anyway :)
mrtrek64 the only part that is the actual firearm is the frames I believe. The slides, barrels, and magazines are manufactured as/for CO2 bb use. The slides are not firearm slides that have been converted but made specifically for the bb pistols. So I’ve been told. I’ve also been told you could buy the barrel, slide, and magazines on eBay and turn the airgun into a firearm with minimal problems, but the bb pistol is actually worth more left as an airgun. And the extractor cut out is just that-a cut out for looks, like the barrels being counter sunk to appear as a 9mm.
@@SquirrelDarling1 Thank you for all that information. The more I learn about these pistols the better. I was told by another collector the slides were collected from actual pistols for the Gen 5. But I'm sure you're information is correct. But one thing is certain for sure. These are by far the best made, highly sought after, collectible pistols there are. Even now I'm having a difficult time getting my hands on another Gen 5. Right now my collection consists of: 3- Gen 5's 2-Gen 4's 2-Gen 1's I still can't find the gen 2 and 3 which are very elusive. At the time I acquired these Co2 guns I was getting very lucky. now...not so much.
@@mrtrek64 lol, I have a Gen 3, manufacture date T04...the cartridge o-ring is damaged since it's the original and leaks Co2 like a sieve, so I've ordered a replacement kit from Russia (be here in 3 or 4 months). What I'm really after now is a Gen 1 and Gen 5 to add to the collection. My Mak is easily my favorite piece in my collection. Great video man, happy to see more Mak collectors!
@@JaredBusch Thank you :) 3--4 months?? That's crazy. If you give me a shipping address I'll send you one of my kits free of charge. I have plenty of extras. My email is stevencal64@aol.com. I've been meaning to do a detailed video on how to install these repair kits but never got around to it. I came up with an excellent way to ensure all the rings and gaskets align properly.
i used to sell long extended smooth barrell and power kits of all sorts for these and used to own one , lost them all as hobby went to a different direction. Neverthless excellent little gun no co2 comes close to the quality of these. Gen 5 is indeed made from the real damn thing it is confirmed by russians themselves
It is incorrect to say that only gen 5 had ejector port cutouts. I have a gen 1 that has an ejector cut out. And I know at least one other gen 1 owned by a local dealer which also had the ejector cut out. They must have been different batches. Both are T99.
Hi, I'm planing to by one and I found a swedish site that sells a Baikal Makarov 654k-32-1. On the picture the serialnumber starts with th19. I just want to know what generation it is and if its the one made out of pott metal or gun steel? this is the site. www.wizeguy.se/sv/artiklar/baikal-pistol-mp-654k-32-1-cal45-mm.html
Hi...It's a real steel Makarov for sure. It's a Gen 4 from the looks of it because it doesn't have the extended cut out at the ejector as the Gen 5 has. Are you ordering it from here in the states or are you in Europe?
@@williamthegunnut3839 Good you shouldn't have any issues then. Here in the states all the customs laws have changed during the past 3 years.. Every box entering the US now must have a customs sticker on the front. When this sticker is scanned it will reveal all the contents of the box. So now Customs doesn't have to x-ray or do anything. If the machine picks up there is a bb gun in the parcel it will get pull and inspected. Even though they are legal, chances are way higher now that it won't make it through. In other words...the party is over.
Canadashootingsupply has gen 6 silver and black. Also other Russian airguns. New shipment, last chance because our government is soon passing a new ban law on airguns
Real nice. Too bad you don't have the new generation 6 that's being sold here in Canada. Canadashootingsupply has black and silver models. They also got 46M and a few other models of Russian airguns. Been trying for years but he finally somehow got a shipment in. He ships to the USA. Canadian government is passing a new bill against airguns. We can keep what we have but once it's fully passed no more sales.
Holy shit!!! You're telling me it will be against the law to sell and own bb/pellet gus in Canada soon? That is crazy!!!! Are you sure this law will pass? Is this the will of the people of Canada? Thanks..I'll take a look at the Gen six. Is that the one which has blowback?
@@mrtrek64 I'm not sure about blowback cause all other generations don't have it. We will be able to keep what we have but no more buying/selling. Airsoft ranges will close. If we move we won't be able to transport airguns and will have to turn them over to the cops. The law is under opposition so we will wait and see. If you are in the USA better check about importing the Makarov. Last I heard it was illegal to import because there is a rumor it can be converted to the real firearm. Which is BS. I did my Christmas shopping early. This only applies to replica guns. 10 meter competition etc are ok. World is going insane with the pandemic. Violence is increasing. My neighbor beat his girlfriend to death because they lost their jobs, car repossessed and fighting over money.
@@James-ke5sx My God I'm sorry to hear all of this. But the lawmakers in their wisdom believe outlawing bb guns is the answer, and putting even more people out of work by closing airsoft ranges and stores. Stupidest thing I've ever heard. Here in the U.S., thank to Trump a new customs law was passed. ANY package entering the U.S must have a sticker on the box indicating its contents. If the machine finds there is an airsoft or bb gun in the package it gets pulled. Even though it's 100 percent legal. So now the Government doesn't need a warrant to see the contents of your box or a deep x-ray. The contents are right there on the lable. And if a seller gets caught lying there is a stiff penelty. Thank goodness I have 7 in my collection so I'm good. But if I try to purchase the Mak it was get pulled for sure. The others made it through because customs really don't know what a mak is. To them, it just looks like another bb gun, unless the agent really knows thier stuff. But back to this new Canadian law, I really wish you guys luck that it gets squashed because I don't believe for a second this is what the people want, BB and Airsoft guns being a problem in Canada in regards to violence! It's laughable if it weren't so pathetically sad. I'll be reading about it.
Hello, and 1000 thanks for this video! Someday, I will own a Makarov replica. I am looking for one, but in this european country where I am, I did never see any replica. However I saw a real steel one in a museum offered for one of our ex republic presidents that sill being around and is an army general. So long ago he fought in our ex colonial war and our enemies were very much supplied by China, U.S.S.R., etc , etc...My researches now go to french and spanish sites...
I have a gen 1,2 and 5, the 1 and 2 are twice as powerful as the 5 due to the breech on the 1 and 2 having a "claw" that pulls the magazine onto the breech face. The 1 and 2 have a breech seal, the 5 doesnt and has a breech/magazine gap of 1.2mm allowing a lot of the co2 to escape.
The best by far is a Gen1 with bakelite grips.
Just my opinion
Is it easy to tell the difference between gens? I believe I bought a gen 2 but not too sure how to tell
@@bigman6199 Gen 1 is 98/99 (first 2 digits of serial no.) with machine marks in slide where breech block has been machined out, Gen 2 is 00 onwards with a cast slide ( there abouts)
@@geoffg46 cheers bro! I definitely have a gen 2 then
Is it true if Generation 5 is only made in 2012 to 2013? Then what model n design after that? Thanks
05:48 I didn't expect that 😅😅
Love your grips on your gen 4 makes the nickel pop I’m going to look for some right now 😏
Can you do a review between the Baikal Makarov PM and PMM versions, please?
I do not like the fact that they cut the frame for the gen5 it weakens the grip if you squeeze hard enough the metal grips bend in slightly .
Hello. Thank you for you video. Your generation 4 has a higher serial number than the gen 5. (First two numbers) - what do you think? Also - I'm thinking of getting one - but the cut in the frame (magazine port) on the gen5 puts me off. You don't seem to mind? Thanks
I think the reason for the Gen 5 having an earlier date stamped on it is because the gen 5 are made from decommissioned pistols which were then converted to CO2 guns. So the Gen 5 pieces can all have a history attached to them where they once belonged to an officer or soldier at one time, which accounts for the earlier dates. When you receive a Gen 5 pistol, it's not a shiny new item. It has scratches all over the body and Bakelite grip. So these are recycled for sure, which i think is cool.
I'm not an expert, but my opinion is the Gen 5 is the only Generation created in this manner; from actual recycled pistols. All the other Generations are indeed made in the Bakial factory like the Gen five is. But I don't believe they are from recycled pistols. I believe they are manufactured as CO2 guns from the start, and not recycled in any way, not even the Gen 1 which I own 2 of and is the most sought after by collectors. The fram is a bit of a put off, but it's not a deal breaker. For me...I think the Gen 5 is the best of all the Generations. but the Gen 1's are worth more.
That's my opinion anyway :)
mrtrek64 the only part that is the actual firearm is the frames I believe. The slides, barrels, and magazines are manufactured as/for CO2 bb use. The slides are not firearm slides that have been converted but made specifically for the bb pistols. So I’ve been told. I’ve also been told you could buy the barrel, slide, and magazines on eBay and turn the airgun into a firearm with minimal problems, but the bb pistol is actually worth more left as an airgun. And the extractor cut out is just that-a cut out for looks, like the barrels being counter sunk to appear as a 9mm.
@@SquirrelDarling1 Thank you for all that information. The more I learn about these pistols the better. I was told by another collector the slides were collected from actual pistols for the Gen 5. But I'm sure you're information is correct. But one thing is certain for sure. These are by far the best made, highly sought after, collectible pistols there are. Even now I'm having a difficult time getting my hands on another Gen 5. Right now my collection consists of:
3- Gen 5's
2-Gen 4's
2-Gen 1's
I still can't find the gen 2 and 3 which are very elusive. At the time I acquired these Co2 guns I was getting very lucky. now...not so much.
@@mrtrek64 lol, I have a Gen 3, manufacture date T04...the cartridge o-ring is damaged since it's the original and leaks Co2 like a sieve, so I've ordered a replacement kit from Russia (be here in 3 or 4 months). What I'm really after now is a Gen 1 and Gen 5 to add to the collection. My Mak is easily my favorite piece in my collection. Great video man, happy to see more Mak collectors!
@@JaredBusch Thank you :) 3--4 months?? That's crazy. If you give me a shipping address I'll send you one of my kits free of charge. I have plenty of extras. My email is stevencal64@aol.com. I've been meaning to do a detailed video on how to install these repair kits but never got around to it. I came up with an excellent way to ensure all the rings and gaskets align properly.
i used to sell long extended smooth barrell and power kits of all sorts for these and used to own one , lost them all as hobby went to a different direction. Neverthless excellent little gun no co2 comes close to the quality of these. Gen 5 is indeed made from the real damn thing it is confirmed by russians themselves
It is incorrect to say that only gen 5 had ejector port cutouts. I have a gen 1 that has an ejector cut out. And I know at least one other gen 1 owned by a local dealer which also had the ejector cut out. They must have been different batches. Both are T99.
Hi, I'm planing to by one and I found a swedish site that sells a Baikal Makarov 654k-32-1. On the picture the serialnumber starts with th19.
I just want to know what generation it is and if its the one made out of pott metal or gun steel?
this is the site.
www.wizeguy.se/sv/artiklar/baikal-pistol-mp-654k-32-1-cal45-mm.html
Hi...It's a real steel Makarov for sure. It's a Gen 4 from the looks of it because it doesn't have the extended cut out at the ejector as the Gen 5 has. Are you ordering it from here in the states or are you in Europe?
@@mrtrek64 I moved to Sweden some years ago. :)
@@mrtrek64 And the website has a 90 day return policy. So I’ll maybe just order it and identify it when I have it.
@@williamthegunnut3839 Good you shouldn't have any issues then. Here in the states all the customs laws have changed during the past 3 years.. Every box entering the US now must have a customs sticker on the front. When this sticker is scanned it will reveal all the contents of the box. So now Customs doesn't have to x-ray or do anything. If the machine picks up there is a bb gun in the parcel it will get pull and inspected. Even though they are legal, chances are way higher now that it won't make it through. In other words...the party is over.
@@mrtrek64 At least you guys can own real guns...
My airgun collection will never be completed until I get a 99 nickel version I been trying to get my hands on one for years
Canadashootingsupply has gen 6 silver and black. Also other Russian airguns. New shipment, last chance because our government is soon passing a new ban law on airguns
Never seen gen1 T99 or any other from gen1 in nickel, I don't think they exist.
Real nice. Too bad you don't have the new generation 6 that's being sold here in Canada. Canadashootingsupply has black and silver models. They also got 46M and a few other models of Russian airguns. Been trying for years but he finally somehow got a shipment in. He ships to the USA. Canadian government is passing a new bill against airguns. We can keep what we have but once it's fully passed no more sales.
Holy shit!!! You're telling me it will be against the law to sell and own bb/pellet gus in Canada soon? That is crazy!!!! Are you sure this law will pass? Is this the will of the people of Canada? Thanks..I'll take a look at the Gen six. Is that the one which has blowback?
@@mrtrek64 I'm not sure about blowback cause all other generations don't have it. We will be able to keep what we have but no more buying/selling. Airsoft ranges will close. If we move we won't be able to transport airguns and will have to turn them over to the cops. The law is under opposition so we will wait and see. If you are in the USA better check about importing the Makarov. Last I heard it was illegal to import because there is a rumor it can be converted to the real firearm. Which is BS. I did my Christmas shopping early. This only applies to replica guns. 10 meter competition etc are ok. World is going insane with the pandemic. Violence is increasing. My neighbor beat his girlfriend to death because they lost their jobs, car repossessed and fighting over money.
@@James-ke5sx My God I'm sorry to hear all of this. But the lawmakers in their wisdom believe outlawing bb guns is the answer, and putting even more people out of work by closing airsoft ranges and stores. Stupidest thing I've ever heard.
Here in the U.S., thank to Trump a new customs law was passed. ANY package entering the U.S must have a sticker on the box indicating its contents. If the machine finds there is an airsoft or bb gun in the package it gets pulled. Even though it's 100 percent legal. So now the Government doesn't need a warrant to see the contents of your box or a deep x-ray. The contents are right there on the lable. And if a seller gets caught lying there is a stiff penelty.
Thank goodness I have 7 in my collection so I'm good. But if I try to purchase the Mak it was get pulled for sure. The others made it through because customs really don't know what a mak is. To them, it just looks like another bb gun, unless the agent really knows thier stuff.
But back to this new Canadian law, I really wish you guys luck that it gets squashed because I don't believe for a second this is what the people want, BB and Airsoft guns being a problem in Canada in regards to violence! It's laughable if it weren't so pathetically sad. I'll be reading about it.
My opinion; gen 1&2 are the better made. I have both.
Gen 6 is military grade steel, sold here in Canada. New batch
Hello, and 1000 thanks for this video! Someday, I will own a Makarov replica. I am looking for one, but in this european country where I am, I did never see any replica. However I saw a real steel one in a museum offered for one of our ex republic presidents that sill being around and is an army general. So long ago he fought in our ex colonial war and our enemies were very much supplied by China, U.S.S.R., etc , etc...My researches now go to french and spanish sites...
I have gen 5, can sell you. Send from Poland
The real Soviet or German Makarovs are much better ;)