I have two case tribal locks I like them a lot, the action on the one I purchased from Sheppard hills did catch a whole lot when I first got it the more I worked it the better it got . I am a Case fan & have been since my grandpa gave me my 1st one ,try a copperlock it also has a great back lock bank vault secure like the tribal lock
Bill Ruber I haven’t given up on my Tribals, but I think this is as far down the Case road as I’m going. I just can’t shake my GEC’s. The Case Knives do have that sentimental feel to them though.
I have never owned a G E C , I will purchase one sooner or later , I just can't see buying a knife that is prone to rust especially where I live in Michigan .I only use slip joints for small tasks , I carry tactical folders as my main blade and I use all my knives .
Bill Ruber Rust is not specific to GEC. The black Case in the video is already turning colors. I live in the humid South East. It easily gets to 110 with 100% humidity in the summer. I’ve never had any issues with 1095, M4, 3V, PD#1, etc. Everyone’s body chemistry and conditions they use the knife in (like on a boat or by the coast) are different though. GEC also makes stainless knives. They’re not as plentiful, but they do make them.
Alchemy_1 I would definitely by a G E C in stainless all my case knives are stainless except one and that one has rust /patina I'm not into patina/ rust . I use my knives outdoors a lot cycling boating , fishing & hiking I like stainless
Bill Ruber Nothing wrong with that. That’s why they make so many different versions of knives. It does take a different level of care or being okay with some patina to go tool steel. I don’t know that I’d want to hassle with it, if it was a hassle, for my traditional. Now my modern. If it’s not tool steel, it probably isn’t in my pocket. Tool steel is just tougher. I remodeled an entire kitchen, floors and everything, with my zwear SnG.
Informative video, SS vs CV is always the question, but I agree with your findings. Bought my first Case when I was 16 and remain loyal today 51 years later. Guess that I'm more a CV man, just because that's what I'm used to using. Easy to sharpen and hone.
I think having watched the whole process that your conclusions are spot on.being new I had read all the talk about the cv being able to get a sharper edge and would outlast the ss.however on a single bladed knife I would still probally get cv because of the patina it gets,and to be honest I don't cut that much in one day.but I now know to use the ss if a heavy workload is expected.the stropping was probably the bigger suprise I thought the cv would have been much easier.great test to learn from when like myself your just around.thank you again,atb paddy.
they both have an HRC of 56, and corrosion will dull a knife so I've always though with equal HRC the stainless has the non corrosive advantage therefore better edge retention, and all the testing I've ever done seems to support that,,
Thanks for the great test and review. I must agree with you... I was kinda surprised at the end result. A lot of people trash talk the SS on Case blades, but I've always found them to be very good. However, I have several of their CV blades and have traditionally thought they performed better. I never tested it though. Now I see that the SS really holds it's own! Cool. Take care. - Jim
BCV Piper Thanks, Jim. The back and forth I was reading about the two steels made me want to test them. Not saying this is the end all, be all, but I think it gives a good idea of the two steels.
beautiful knives! i like both steels for doing different things. A good stainless steel will hold an edge longer than a your average carbon steel. A good carbon steel will hold up pretty well like D2 tool steel. But when you get into the super steels like D2 and all the ones Benchmade uses like 154 cm and s30v you really cant go wrong with those stainless steels but then again with case its not all about that its about the beauty of the knives the high polished steels the pretty bone and stag materials and just the all around fit and finish that Case brings. Enjoyed the video.
Apparently things have changed since the late 70's when I was using a small sodbuster in ss . The ss blade chipped and since that time I have little use for ss.
I’ve seen several of these counterintuitive results on other channels where the ss outperformed the cv. Now you’ve shown the same result. Maybe I should accept that as a normal condition.
Dwain S&w I was surprised too. I don’t like stainless, more so the polished blade than anything, but this made me realize it may be worth a second look.
Bronzer Wolf, it just goes to show that the proof of the pudding, in this "case" the test of the steel, is all in the heat treat. Good 440C properly heat treated can be better than S35V if not treated properly. Us old timers have known this for years, and "steel snobs" have forgotten this truism. If Paul Boss heat treats anything (as an example) ...it is probably as hard as is sensible, whereas some steels from questionable sources might be more for show than for go. We don't really know the exact composition of Case's stainless, but we do know how it performs. Thank God for reviewers who are not afraid to test & report on the testing, irregardless of the the knife company or the common thread of thought at the time.
You can clean a pan fish to a bull moose with the tribal lock!..i have the 6.5 bone stag.i agee the ss holds edge better.it replaced my carbon case i bought in 1971..great vidio.
Reviewers and consumers generally expect the cv steel to outperform the ss. This is the second comparison I’ve seen where the ss steel was the winner. So I’ve decided it’s a toss up on Case knives. I’m indifferent at this point.
Jim Archibald All depends on use. Behind the edge thickness and blade stock are all going to depend on use case. A thick stock and behind the edge thickness are not the most ideal for something you want as a pure slicer.
@@Alumapro23 I guess it depends on what your planning to slice. Might I point out the Warncliff blade on Case knives. Thick, yet hollow ground. It could probably slice a tomato, if needed.
Why would someone pay 67 dollars and change a tribal when for 33 or so dollars more you can get a GEC? Case is way over priced in my opinion. It's an insult to American's in my opinion.
Joe D I whole heartedly agree that their quality has fallen off of a cliff in the past few decades and I take all the heat for saying that. I have many videos where I talk about this and I get ripped apart, but that doesn’t change facts...lol. I would buy a knife like this in hopes to try it out and be able to speak objectively about the knife. One of my biggest pet peeves is someone commenting on something when they don’t have adequate experience to make all the statements that are making. Kind of like when you were a kid and you’d tell your mom you don’t like how X tastes before you even tasted it. I also know that people are going to rage about Case. So, I’d rather be able to show what I’m saying rather than just turn on the camera and talk, like a lot of guys. I don’t discuss anything on this channel f I can’t show you guys or point you to a significant amount of reputable data/info.
Thank-you. These are both extremely pocketable & usefull EDC knives, but now I will stick to the SS in my Tribal & Copperlocks.
camping buddy Thanks for the support. I’m glad you found the video helpful. 👊
Extremely thorough. Again outstanding
bigben351427 Thanks, man! 👊
I have two case tribal locks I like them a lot, the action on the one I purchased from Sheppard hills did catch a whole lot when I first got it the more I worked it the better it got . I am a Case fan & have been since my grandpa gave me my 1st one ,try a copperlock it also has a great back lock bank vault secure like the tribal lock
Bill Ruber I haven’t given up on my Tribals, but I think this is as far down the Case road as I’m going. I just can’t shake my GEC’s. The Case Knives do have that sentimental feel to them though.
I have never owned a G E C , I will purchase one sooner or later , I just can't see buying a knife that is prone to rust especially where I live in Michigan .I only use slip joints for small tasks , I carry tactical folders as my main blade and I use all my knives .
Bill Ruber Rust is not specific to GEC. The black Case in the video is already turning colors. I live in the humid South East. It easily gets to 110 with 100% humidity in the summer. I’ve never had any issues with 1095, M4, 3V, PD#1, etc. Everyone’s body chemistry and conditions they use the knife in (like on a boat or by the coast) are different though. GEC also makes stainless knives. They’re not as plentiful, but they do make them.
Alchemy_1 I would definitely by a G E C in stainless all my case knives are stainless except one and that one has rust /patina I'm not into patina/ rust . I use my knives outdoors a lot cycling boating , fishing & hiking I like stainless
Bill Ruber Nothing wrong with that. That’s why they make so many different versions of knives. It does take a different level of care or being okay with some patina to go tool steel. I don’t know that I’d want to hassle with it, if it was a hassle, for my traditional. Now my modern. If it’s not tool steel, it probably isn’t in my pocket. Tool steel is just tougher. I remodeled an entire kitchen, floors and everything, with my zwear SnG.
Informative video, SS vs CV is always the question, but I agree with your findings. Bought my first Case when I was 16 and remain loyal today 51 years later. Guess that I'm more a CV man, just because that's what I'm used to using. Easy to sharpen and hone.
C. S. Johnson Very cool. 👊
I think having watched the whole process that your conclusions are spot on.being new I had read all the talk about the cv being able to get a sharper edge and would outlast the ss.however on a single bladed knife I would still probally get cv because of the patina it gets,and to be honest I don't cut that much in one day.but I now know to use the ss if a heavy workload is expected.the stropping was probably the bigger suprise I thought the cv would have been much easier.great test to learn from when like myself your just around.thank you again,atb paddy.
paddys potato peelers Thank, buddy. It was surprising to me as well. 👊
they both have an HRC of 56, and corrosion will dull a knife so I've always though with equal HRC the stainless has the non corrosive advantage therefore better edge retention, and all the testing I've ever done seems to support that,,
That will definitely have an impact on the edge.
Thanks for the great test and review. I must agree with you... I was kinda surprised at the end result. A lot of people trash talk the SS on Case blades, but I've always found them to be very good. However, I have several of their CV blades and have traditionally thought they performed better. I never tested it though. Now I see that the SS really holds it's own! Cool. Take care.
- Jim
BCV Piper Thanks, Jim. The back and forth I was reading about the two steels made me want to test them. Not saying this is the end all, be all, but I think it gives a good idea of the two steels.
beautiful knives! i like both steels for doing different things. A good stainless steel will hold an edge longer than a your average carbon steel. A good carbon steel will hold up pretty well like D2 tool steel. But when you get into the super steels like D2 and all the ones Benchmade uses like 154 cm and s30v you really cant go wrong with those stainless steels but then again with case its not all about that its about the beauty of the knives the high polished steels the pretty bone and stag materials and just the all around fit and finish that Case brings. Enjoyed the video.
Wes Griffin Thanks, man 👊🙏
I have 8 Tribal-lock knives. Any production knife made in PA is a good knife.
I just started collecting traditional knives.
What's the difference between case tribal lock and copperlock?
Apparently things have changed since the late 70's when I was using a small sodbuster in ss . The ss blade chipped and since that time I have little use for ss.
Nice !!!! love Case knives .. good vid. thanks for sharing...
Thanks, man 👊🙏
Both are beautiful knives. :)
I’ve seen several of these counterintuitive results on other channels where the ss outperformed the cv. Now you’ve shown the same result. Maybe I should accept that as a normal condition.
Dwain S&w I was surprised too. I don’t like stainless, more so the polished blade than anything, but this made me realize it may be worth a second look.
Surprising results but good to know.
🤔 now we know why Case likes their Tru-Sharp SS so much. Enjoyed all 3 videos 👊
Bonzer Wolf Yes, I was pretty surprised. I appreciate the support, man. 👊
Bronzer Wolf, it just goes to show that the proof of the pudding, in this "case" the test of the steel, is all in the heat treat. Good 440C properly heat treated can be better than S35V if not treated properly. Us old timers have known this for years, and "steel snobs" have forgotten this truism. If Paul Boss heat treats anything (as an example) ...it is probably as hard as is sensible, whereas some steels from questionable sources might be more for show than for go. We don't really know the exact composition of Case's stainless, but we do know how it performs. Thank God for reviewers who are not afraid to test & report on the testing, irregardless of the the knife company or the common thread of thought at the time.
Great video., the wicked edge i dig it. Can you do a video on the wicked edge.
You consistently do a nice job.
Dwain S&w Thanks, man 👊
Waiting for my CaseXX blue giraffe bone tribal lock to arrive in the mail soon.
It feels like you started this test a year ago
Howard green Hahaha! I think this is the info you were asking about yesterday...last year 😄👊
You can clean a pan fish to a bull moose with the tribal lock!..i have the 6.5 bone stag.i agee the ss holds edge better.it replaced my carbon case i bought in 1971..great vidio.
John Banco Great little knife. Thanks, man 👊
Great Video! I am little surprised.
Great review, subbed
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Thank you great information
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Interesting test new subscriber
Reviewers and consumers generally expect the cv steel to outperform the ss. This is the second comparison I’ve seen where the ss steel was the winner. So I’ve decided it’s a toss up on Case knives. I’m indifferent at this point.
Hadn’t wanted a tribal lock until I watched this video. Gotta get one now. My wife is going to shoot me! LOL!
dbm7121 😂😂😂👊
Tru sharp = 420HC, CV = 1095...just proprietary to Case. Still prefer the CV, more traditional and takes a patina.
My gec knives discolor and get a patina after the first use but I also use my knives on food and fruit etc
I own 7 Great Eastern Cutlery knives. GEC is dick tease of American knife makers.
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a thicker blade is a plus.
Jim Archibald All depends on use. Behind the edge thickness and blade stock are all going to depend on use case. A thick stock and behind the edge thickness are not the most ideal for something you want as a pure slicer.
@@Alumapro23 I guess it depends on what your planning to slice. Might I point out the Warncliff blade on Case knives. Thick, yet hollow ground. It could probably slice a tomato, if needed.
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Why would someone pay 67 dollars and change a tribal when for 33 or so dollars more you can get a GEC? Case is way over priced in my opinion. It's an insult to American's in my opinion.
Joe D I whole heartedly agree that their quality has fallen off of a cliff in the past few decades and I take all the heat for saying that. I have many videos where I talk about this and I get ripped apart, but that doesn’t change facts...lol.
I would buy a knife like this in hopes to try it out and be able to speak objectively about the knife. One of my biggest pet peeves is someone commenting on something when they don’t have adequate experience to make all the statements that are making. Kind of like when you were a kid and you’d tell your mom you don’t like how X tastes before you even tasted it.
I also know that people are going to rage about Case. So, I’d rather be able to show what I’m saying rather than just turn on the camera and talk, like a lot of guys. I don’t discuss anything on this channel f I can’t show you guys or point you to a significant amount of reputable data/info.
When the blade discolers on the cv steel thats when the blade gets good when the coating wears off of it