top five scouts
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- Опубліковано 12 вер 2024
- Yes I know it's long but then I compare five knives against several fantastic knives to give you my reasons for choosing what I chose. If you want the short video skip to the last minute or so where I show the winners. If you want to know why they're the winners, then watch the whole video and see lots of cool scout/camp knives.
Im an old man, a old , tired, sick, broken, shot up Paratrooper from the 80-90's.
Ive served from Asia to Central America to Europe and Saudi Arabia.
The one knife I always have with me is a Swiss Army Knife. My favorite is the FIELDMASTER.
I carried the Huntsman instead. Same knife but with the corkscrew instead of the phillips backtool. Traded in for an Explorer because now I need a magnifying glass more than a wood saw! LOL
I personally love having a knife with a corkscrew on it because you are the savior of the party when there’s no wine opener
Thanks for sharing, I've carried a Victorinox small tinker for 30 years, my " go to" knife.
Your videos were a great resource , i also viewed a bunch of others as i researched what camp/scout knife i wanted to add to my collection. I settled on a new Boker camp/scout with stag handles. Its gorgeous and will be something i plan to use as my EDC. Paid a little (alot) more than i wanted to , but it was worth it as soon as it was delivered.
Sound like a good one. I'm glad you found the channel useful.
Great video I personally like having a knife with a corkscrew on it in that style because you are the savior of the party when no own has a wine opener
Awesome! Just getting in collecting and love the scout knife. I didn't realize there are so many different variations
When I was a Scout, I always carried an 8" Sheffield Bowie by Nowell. It is in carbon steel and served every purpose from chopping wood to carving chicken. I still have it, but it suffered several years of abuse by my son. I’ve recently refurbished it, oiled it and put it away wrapped in cling film to stop it rusting. When does your earliest Scout Knife date from? I’m not sure they were ever hugely popular over here. We always went for fixed blades. I do love the pioneer, but I go for the Pioneer X with scissors for my edc.
My troop had a policy against fixed blades, for most of my time in scouts I carried an imperial stockman(Taylor made).
Nice video Tobias.
I carried a 1968 U.S. Camillus Military Pocket knife ( aka Demo knife ) daily for over 24 years. I have a metal key clip that goes on my belt and I always kept my U.S. Camillus pocket knife clipped to my key clip. Every time I used the knife I would automatically clip my knife back on the key clip on my belt. I would never set it down where I could forget it and lose it. Recently I just had to replace my U.S. Camillus pocket knife because I wore the springs out on it. So I purchased a Boker Magnum Camp Knife , it has all the same tools as my ole U.S. Camillus pocket knife , including the Clavis or Shackle. I am very happy with the purchase of my Boker Magnum Camp Knife. It only cost me about $20 , it cuts great , it's easy to sharpen , all the tools work great , and I don't leave home without it
There are a lot of great pocket knives out there , but for me I have to have a pocket knife that has a Clavis or Shackle on it. I find the Clavis or Shackle very useful . And the basic tools that come with a Camp Knife / Boy Scout Knife are extremely useful , so I really love this design.
Now , I know some of your readers will correct me and tell me it's not a Clavis or Shackle , it's a "bail" ( and yes , they are also referred to as bails ). I simply call mine a Clavis or Shackle because that is what Camillus called them on their Blueprints. www.collectors-of-camillus.us/Articles/GSA-heavy-duty-pocket-knife-1966.pdf
Thanks for the great video.
JT
Scenic Driveways, I’ve always seen it spelled “clevis” but you are correct, that is the more proper term. I think the Brits called it a “shackle.” Case and GEC seem to call it a bail or lanyard bail. The camp or demo knife is pure genius and I’m also a big fan of a clevis or clavis no matter what people call it.
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You got a great knife collection Tobias. And you're very knowledgeable about knives too. It would be great to sit down and have coffee with you, but my wife and I are in Canonville , Utah for the summer. ( We're full time RVers ) That's probably quite a ways from where you are.
Have a blessed week. Keep the videos coming , I'm enjoying them.
JT
Excellently presented again, Tobias.
I have one of those 108mm German Army ones, too.
The version 2 actually by Victorinox with the nailfile/matchstriker, which -as I've read once somewhere - they might have not made for too long; seemingly from '85 or '86. So, super stoked I snatched it up -must be - a good 10 years ago.
I have given a few of these away, too (the more widespread variant 1). Never any complaints from those people either.
Recently added that mini-screwdriver to it that Vic. makes for their standard models, fits just as well.
Beautiful collection.👍
Thanks!
Love the passion that shows through in these videos.
Thanks. I really do like my scout knives
Just scrolled through all the videos looking for the one you did for Veterans Day a couple years ago I was looking for it bc we’re on the theme of videos that led to knife purchases and that one touched my son’s and my heart so much that we bought a Case UMC Tribal Lock for our friend at Church who is a Vietnam Vet He loves the knife And thanks for your service as well as your content
Very cool show on the camp knife, my favorite as well! I can see where that was not easy to pick your top five. You did a great job at representing the variations within the pattern! I would have a very tough time choosing, though Camillus and a SAK type would certainly make the list :) Thanks for another excellent video!
JJ Cahill, thanks. It was a hard choice to make. One goal was to spread it around a bit. Thanks for watching. Glad you enjoyed it.
My favorite scout knife of all time has to be the US made Remington R4 in the 5-tool pattern, which has all the jormal accoutrements plus a very decent sawblade. Next up, the classic US military folder. After that, the modern variants by Rough Ryder and Marbles really shine, even if they need a bit of tweaking and work to get them just right (mainly trimming the cap lifter). The old Ulster Boy Scout knives are also very nice, especially the ones with solid delrin handles and not just hollow plastic scales. Rounding out bunch, I think the old Forest Master takes 5th place.
I know the knife you speak of. All I can say, is you have made a very wise choice for a favorite scout knife!
That is a very cool collection. Greetings from Buenos Aires.
Thanks, Glad you enjoyed it!
My very first knife was the official Cub Scout Knife. My Dad gave it to me in 1967. I was 8 years old. That knife started my fascination with blades, and except for three months in boot camp, I’ve had a knife on me every day since.
I wish I knew what happened to that knife.
I also have the Wenger version of the German Army Knife. It’s in a fire kit, but I really like it.
Alox SAK Soldier 1950 and 1960, are a rare prize indeed add in an original GAK its a heck of a combo!
Thumbs up for the old era Camillus knives,
Alexandru von Carstein Zarovich, thank you! So many knives, do hard to pick a winner. Love my Swiss Army Knives and Camillus Scouts. Thanks for watching and your comments. I always appreciate your thoughts.
@@KnifeChatswithTobias :D, my pleasure think nothing of it,
Never apologise for making a fascinating video. Loved every minute. Would love a video on the us military knives. Im in the ukand dont get the chance to see and here there history. An hour or two would be enough. Lol. Atb paddy 😊☘️👍
paddys potato peelers , I am planning a video on the the Mil-K 818 knife.
I’ve also thought about doing one on the primary pocket knives used by the US military during WWII but some of the more special knives are scarce as hen’s teeth! I’m might have to go with five most common!
Thanks for watching and I’m glad you envied the video.
The Swiss Army (alox) soldiers knife was made by both Wenger & Victorinox. Wenger added a nail to theirs, the civilian version was no different than the military.
From the SAK Wik, see the second paragrapgh:
The Wenger Soldat, is a true Swiss Soldier Knife manufactured under contract to Swiss Army specifications, and issued to enlisted personnel between 1962 and 2008. Outside of Switzerland it is better known as the Standard Issue, or SI, for short. This version of the Soldat (French for soldier) is based on the Swiss Army 1961 design specifications that were developed by Victorinox.
Some people classify the Standard Issue as the civilian version of the Soldat, as it contains a bail mounted in the hollow end-rivet, which was never included on issued Soldier Knives.
This is the only 93mm Alox scaled model that was manufactured by Wenger. After 2008, Wenger continued to manufacture this model for civilian retail markets. Since it is was no longer an official Soldier Knife after 2008, Wenger started to refer to the model as the Swiss Army 70.
I need to go find the video on the brown “bone” handle Scout knife. It’s nearly identical to a WWII era Navy/Marine corpsman jackknife!! The plaque with the Motto on it is about identical too, just stamped M.D. USN! My example my grandfather brought home from his deployment to the South Pacific hunting submarines. Really cool!!
Those are tough ones to find. I have a few of the USA Knives from WWII as well as the a few without shields but the M.D. USN are hard to find. A few other shields were also used. The most common was USA, which from what I read, was the shield for U.S. Army Utility knives.
Very good video. Love knives!
Alox SAKs for life! Hehe.
Love my Pioneer X, Pioneer, and Cadet. Your videos did get me interested in the US GI knives like from Marbles, but shipping costs might kill and apparently the quality is a hit or miss.
Would you call a knife a scout pattern if it has 3-4 blades, which usually includes a knife, an awl, a can opener or bottle opener? Looks like most of your choices have similar tools throughout.
Not to mention the Marbles version of the GI knife has a caplifter that won't lift without modification. I wish Victorinox would bring back the Wenger Standard Issue with the removable bale.
OK Tobias, you got me thinking about my very first knife, the same Camillus Cub Scout knife you show here and that is my #1 scout knife; #2 my original Ulster Official BSA knife (circa 1962); #3 U S Army demo knife (1964) issued to me in 1968; #4 Western Cutlery (Boulder Colo) C901-B scout/camp knife (circa 1974); #5 any qualified Victorinox but my pick is the easy to carry Recruit. Thanks for making me choose. I don't think I'll ever change my mind about the first 4.
BD H, great choices and I can see your reasoning for the choices. It’s often easy to figure out the top one or two. The tricky part is rounding out the five! Thanks for watching. I’m happy the video got you thinking about your Scouts!
I've got a German army knife made by victorinox and marked Mauser. The saw is the best. I cut the blades down to three inches as that is the legal carry in England. It's my favourite knife.
They are really good knives. I carried a German Army Knife for many years. I'd almost cry if I had to cut the blades down but I can also understand why a person would do that if that is what it took to legally carry it!
This video put me on the lookout for Scout Knives at Flea Markets Antique Stores and Pawn Shops So far I’ve found several of them along with some nice Swiss Army Knives and TL-29s
See what you started lol
glad to have been assistance with your knife addiction!
En France quand j'étais chez les scouts , il y a donc longtemps, nous avions des Opinel ou des Swiss Army Knife ( SAK ). Les Victorinox sont garantis à vie et sont très polyvalents.
As a life long Scouter, this was a fun video! I used to have a modern official BSA knife and I hated it. Same pattern type, but made in China and quite poor quality: wouldn’t hold an edge and was very stiff.
I have a few of the China made Scout knives. I'm pretty certain they were made by Taylor Brands for some time. I think the main draw for me was the historical aspect. Most of the ones I have are Cub Scout knives. They were of better build quality than the last of the USA made (Bear & Son) but that isn't saying much. I'm not sure how well they would hold up to continuous use. They came relatively sharp but I've really not used them so I can say how well they hold up over time.
Another great video Tobias , thank you .
Nice selection, thanks.
Thanks, Glad you liked it!
Your videos are always informative, and usually I am tempted to go out and buy another SAK shortly after watching, but this time your tip about taking care of your feet on an outdoor hike or camping trip...is possibly the best advice you could give ( other than strictly about knives). Thank-you from all the diabetics out here.
camping buddy, thanks. Glad you found the info useful. Others kind of snicker at me.
Being an old infantry guy, nothing was drilled into my head more than keeping your feet dry and blister free. I still keep spare socks with me. I recall one time using my spare socks as a bandage for someone who sliced his leg open. You never know. Spare socks and a whistle - I never go in the woods without them. Thanks for watching.
@@KnifeChatswithTobias :- I never thought of a spare pair of socks for EDC. Now you screwed me up a bit...where will I put those socks? Do I ditch the tarp or the 3 methods of fire starting? More pockets, thats always the answer!
Beautiful collection!
Rodney Payne, thanks. Really appreciate your viewership.
Love your videos! Do you have grandchildren to share with?
Great information- nice knives! Thanks for the mention sharing and thanks for sharing!
No problem! Got to give credit where credit is due. Thanks for dropping by!
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Great video I always learn something new when I watch your channel. Keep them coming my friend 👍.
Interesting picks!!!!!
Pg R , thanks. Glad you enjoyed the show.
Instead of a Phillips driver which has had no value in the woods for me in four decades, I prefer a saw. I have an Alox with cap lifter, can opener, awl, saw, and fine blade. I’ve never been at a loss with that configuration. This for me is the definition of what a scout knife should be.
I like the victorinox Walker.
But it's only 3 blade.
I think that is main draw of the Walker. It's a dandy of a knife and a handy size to boot! I'm not sure why the walker isn't more popular!
Love that Case Jr. Scout! Böker still makes the "Böker Sportsmesser". It is quite popular and comes with different scales. I think that would be my favorite if I had one. I have a Vic Tinker that honestly is all I really need. I have the modern Bundeswehr Messer also by Victorinox. Perfect for camping/bushcrafting with the kids. And I have a Kamp King. I like carrying the Kamp King the most.. must have some kind of charm that works on me.
Lars Buskkraft, the Böker Sportsmesser is an awesome knife. I have a Remington/Camillus copy of it. I need to pick up the original some day. They’re a little pricey but worth it! Thanks for watching!
If we had the Remington version here, I would just get that. Because, yes, the Sportsmesser is rather pricey.
Lars Buskkraft, the Remington is only going up in value. It was made by Camillus back in the 1990’s and is getting harder and harder to find. I picked one up several years back. I’m guessing they are going for between $70-$100 today (mint in box w/paper). Still cheaper than a new Böker; especially the stag one.
You know that feeling "But I saw it just a few years ago" and it was actually before 2000? Well.. one day I'll get the Sportsmesser. If not new then used. Sometimes one or two show up here in Europe on facebook or ebay (german)
Boy I'll tell ya the collection is never done........ The money I spent over the years........ I have just about all the GEC knives now I'm hooked on boker knives....... Very dangerous a lot of money!!!!!!! Happy collecting
Pg R , you’re going for gold in your collection! Happy hunting!
you have just about ALL the GEC knives!!, you're delusional mate 🥱🥱
Haha, talking about can openers, there it is, the german army pocket knife.
The nailfile on the Victorinox Cadet got an update recently. Now it's more of a proper single-cut file. Very fine cut, but sharp.
I'm sure this pleased the heck out of most people but I really like the older " pebble textured" file. I know the cut file actually worked better for most chores but for mail filing and match striking the textured file is king in my book. That said, the new file is not a deal breaker for me.
The Cub Scout knife was my first good knife.
My mom got it for me at a Mitchell’s dept store in 1975.
willc, I love the Cub Scout Knife. Highly underrated and often overlooked! Thanks for watching.
A marathon effort and well presented!
R. Murray thank you and thanks for watching.
Very informative…Thank You
Glad it was helpful! Thanks for dropping by
I've been hooked on boker traditional knives....... I love um fit and finish is close to GEC or better!!!!!!!! Great knives
Pg R, I need to explore a few more Bokers. They are excellent knives. Thanks for watching.
I have the SAK Farmer, camp knife with a saw.👍
Loved the show
bloodhound122, glad you enjoyed it. Thanks for your continued support!
I was never in the scouts nor particularly interested in joining. But I love this style of knife.
I have a small collection of traditional folders. I rotate carrying them just for fun. But if you had to go on a 6 month trip into a remote place and you could only pick one, which would it be ? Next, Lets say you had to choose the model of camp knife for your group, all being the same, which one would it be ? Remember You hane to live with your chioce for 6 months in a remote place AND you also hope to have equiped your group with a good chioce as well.
That would be a hard choice for me to make as I have never been in that situation. What's more, the closest to that condition was when I was in the Army, I never carried just one knife even when in the Army. Today, when I go camping/fishing/hiking/etc. I always have my my EDC with me (three knives) and then usually two or three knives depending on my intended trip. For the most part these scout knives are a good second knife to go along with a solid fix blade when camping, hiking, fishing.
Enjoying my virtual ice cream while watching your fascinating video. Don't have scout knife yet, which 3 would you recommend? 1 for high end, 1 for average price, 1 for budget price?
What, no ice cream?! I’m feeling short changed!😉😂😂😂
Thanks again, Hobo knives are great at mealtime, lets eat.
The best hobo knives are the ones that come apart so you can use a fork and knife or fork and spoon at the same time.
I have acquired three of the US and one is a $10 marbles and one is the real military issued one and last but not least I have one that’s unmarked, but has the brass spacers like the one you have in your hand at 15:58. Do you know what it could be? It has a 5 stamp on one side toward one end, and it has a what lookes like is a “A” that’s almost double stamped like overlapped
That's sounds interesting. Is there anyway you could send a photo of it to knife.chats@yahoo.com? I suspect it may be one of the Mess Kit knives made in 1952. They typically were not stamped US on the handle. They still had brass liners at the time. It could also be a war production knife from Stevens.
I can do that! Thank you
Great picks
Thanks, my friend!
Hello, do you know if Case made a 6.5 bonestag scout?
Yes. There was a 6.5 Bone Stag. You may want to check out my second look video on the Jr.Scouts. I list all of the known handle materials for the pattern... ua-cam.com/video/78ox8rgLgW4/v-deo.htmlsi=RBe1DXQvEpUpxxZ0
Nice...😊
Thanks. Glad you enjoyed the video. Thanks for visiting!
I absolutely zeroed in on that hobo knife as soon as I saw it in the background. What I’m looking for is a hobo-style scout knife with a saw and scissors that has a trowel head instead of a spoon, for use in gardening. Do you know if one that exists? Or do you know anyone that could make a custom design like that?
Nice videos! How about eh Victorinox Sportsman? Both nail file and awl/reamer, plus scredriver... Cheers from Argentina!!!
Could you give some more information about the Craftsman knife? I can't find anything about it, and I'd be quite interested in one.
My only scout's are a 70's Camillus #99 and a 1984 Schrade MIL-K-818.
To me a scout has to have an awl and a bail, so the Vics I have don't count for me.
If they could replace the nail file on the Cadet and add a bail I would be so happy, I just like the awl for scribing lines and de-burring pvc... ect.
Even without the bail as a non scout knife I'd be so happy.
Do you pocket carry your Explorer or use a sheath? I’ve tried to carry my Explorer a few times in my pocket, but finds it’s just a little to large.
Scott S. Not only do I pocket carry the Explorer but I also have a five inch toothpick in the pocket! ( recently I swapped the Toothpick for a 4 inch folding hunter I’m testing out. )
But the knives are nothing compared to my keys I have in my other front pocket. Fortunately, I don’t wear skinny jeans!
Thanks for watching.
@Late to the Game I almost always have two knives in my front right. The large toothpick really doesn't take up space so tossing in an explorer kind of balances the keys in the left pocket.
What about Girl Scout knives?
I have done a few episodes on them. My collection of them is definitely smaller than Cub Scout Knives.
I've got an Kutmaster green GS knife. Very robust good quality scout knife
I think it’s very strange that here in germany , boyscouts aren’t really a thing
I don't think I can pick 5; I only need two:
1) Victorinox One Hand Trekker, plain edge
2) Victorinox Tinker, small
I had a Case Jr. Scout; it's too small in the hand. The screwdriver on the cap lifter has an odd angle to it.
I have a Kamp King; they're cheap and nasty.
By the way, which scouts are drinking wine, where they'd need a corkscrew? (and don't give me that bit about corkscrews being so useful for untying knots. A back Phillips handily wins, for "being prepared". ;-)
To be fair the term ''Swiss Army Knife'' is a misnomer anyway, it was coined by US troops stationed in Europe during and after WW2. In German they are called ''Schweizer Taschenmesser'' which translates to Swiss pocket knives. For Swiss Army use there were the respective Soldier models made by Vic and Wenger, and the smaller models with corkscrews etc. which are now made with the familiar celidor scales were first marketed as ''Officer and sports knives'', Swiss Army officers weren't issued these but purchased them from shops.
Very true. It was sometime in the 1950s that Victorinox Trademarked the name Swiss Army Knife, and then after a court battle in Switzerland, Victorinox became the "Original Swiss Army Knife" and Wenger became the "Genuine Swiss Army Knife" and no other knife in Switzerl;and could use the name. Since then Victorinox has fiercely protected this international Trademark.
@@KnifeChatswithTobias Thank you very much for your repliy Tobias, I feel kinda honoured lol. It hadn't crossed my mind that the term Swiss Army Knife may have been an international trademark. or in fact as it is ''Original Swiss Army Knife''.
Just got a NOS Camillus 1760. It’s really stiff. Any tips on how to loosen the tension on the springs?
My bet is the knife is gunked up with dried up factory lubricant. It may just need to be cleaned really well. I normally open all the blades and wash the joints with hot soapy water hot. next i rinces it with the hot water from the tap or tie a string to the knife and drop it in a pan of hot boiling water over and over and over for a minute or two. After this, I blow out all the water using a can of air or using my mouth and a coffee stirrer.
This is followed by spraying everything with WD 40 and wiping it all off and then re-oiling the joints (I use Coon-P but any good knife oil should do. ) Afterwards I work the joints a bit and set the knife aside for a while while the oil works its way into the joints. That usually does the trick for me.
Your voice was so calm, as if you're not "hooked" at all. But we know the truth...
Do you have a Hammer brand scout knife?
Yes. Most of them are Kamp Kings.
Obrigado pela partilha
Adorava ter um U S na minha coleção
I hope you make a video just showing off your mil-k knives.
I have in mint condition I cut my way piggyback scout knives in pouch I believe over 100 years old
where can we get these in good condition?
Many are readily available on eBay. But some of the prices people are asking are absolutely ridiculous.
When did Camillous (spelling?) go out of business? Thank you.
Camillus closed its doors 2007. The TM was bought by ACME United. Sorry for the late reply.
@@KnifeChatswithTobias Thank you. I assume Acme United is a Chinese concern.
@@christopherskipp1525 It is an American company but they are definitely global. That said, they do make several USA made fixed blades that run about $100+ My bet is they are made by Ontario or some other USA knife maker and branded Camillus but I have no proof. There website currently list five USA made but they have made others. www.camillusknives.com/products/usa-knives.html
@@KnifeChatswithTobias With these corporations/conglomerates it can be hard to tell what their real status is. Thank you for your reply.
George Carlin is alive!
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Хорошая коллекция!
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