Word to the wise. The 'final straw' that prompted Lee and Bill to leave the band was during their US tour. Long story short, Mick's ego was already troublesome for the band (touring is a very stressful time for most bands) and essentially Mick and Shane's erratic behaviour was too much for Bill and Lee who were effectively the opposite end of the scale in terms of attitude and personality. Of course, as already stated, the two had bands of their own and so when the tour ended, they quit. For the record, Lee Dorian and Bill Steer are 2 of the most genuine people you could ever hope to meet.
@@janglynerd I didn't mate. One thing I can say is that I'm a mate of Bills and it was from Lee I heard it first. Bill isn't the type to get involved in talk. Although I am, lol, and can confirm.
That was my thought exactly, Justin Brodrick put out a lot of different stuff including Godflesh, but I wonder if he really helped out Earache records with their success? I have to go back and look how many albums did they release on Earache.
They glossed over the fact that Napalm Death used to have 9 members. Their former bass player Varg then killed 4 bandmates in self defense after they got into an argument about cornflakes and fire safety.
"...and side Two was Lee Dorrian, Bill Steer, and Mickey Harris on drums..." Bullshit. If you bother going on the internet, 30 years after, at least give useful informations and say Who played Fuckin' bass Guitar!!!
that's one of the things I like about Lee, a man of conviction in his beliefs. going from ultra fast to ultra slow and not givin a shit what anybody thought about it/ Cathedral I own every one of their albums/ bar 1 perhaps!ha.cheers.well worth a listen if ya into doomy stuff at the moment!
Agreed. I own all ND & Cathedral albums except for 1 of each band (Spiritual Birth Machine & Words From The Exit Wound). Love both bands for different reasons. Lee has appeared on 2 of the most legendary extreme albums of all time (FETO & Forest Of Equilibrium). Hail to the masters \m/
Lee left because Dig used his residual to cover some expenses on whatever nonsense thing. He also couldn't stand Mick. This has been documented in various forms for years and years. Way to rewrite history as always, and LIE Earache.
It's weird that Earache would even talk about them as they have been fighting eachother for quite some time, Barney has a strong dislike for the label and it's obvious why.
They sold truckloads of albums and lee was flat broke . One of Bolt Thrower told me that the sleeve of their new album on Earache was the most expensive thing the label had done up to that point and it was paid for by Napalm Death. "Do they know that?" "I doubt it."
I like the new Napalm Death stuff, but it's harder for me to make it through an entire album than their older stuff. I do prefer the 90's I miss Barney's old vocals. Just seems weird that Mitch is in limbo and no one is sure when he's coming back
To be honest, the last album I liked was Utopia banished, the following albums did nothing for me, and my favorite records will always be Harmony corruption and Mentally murdered.
0:47 That's the Mentally Murdered ep band photo, Side B scum did not feature Shane Embury, that is some lazy editing right there, at least make an effort when making a video like this.
@@bryandaniel2856 weren't you a drummer for some bands? I may have you mixed up with someone else but I did correspond with you. I did a fanzine called repulse-zine.
@@bryandaniel2856 i got you mixed up with a guy named ty Smith who did a zine around that time. But I did have a couple of your zines. I wish I still had them in storage, a younger friend of mine bought out all my old zines, paid me good money for them
jon w awesome to hear. Did you ever upload your zines to the net for people to read? I ve always looked for your zines on ebay but they go pretty quick.
Yeah you should have went how Justin Broderick formed God flesh which spread out so much into different kinds of music and also make Harrison's corn which pushed the envelope not to mention the other guys cuz you did.be better!
Cathedral and Carcass? How in the fuck do you not even mention Godflesh or Scorn? Scorn's "Vae Solis" album WAS the original Napalm Death line-up! Bullen, Broadrick, and Harris.
![[NAPALM DEATH] Mark "Barney" Greenway: Balance of Life (interview)](/img/n.gif)
I want more videos like this!!!
Word to the wise. The 'final straw' that prompted Lee and Bill to leave the band was during their US tour. Long story short, Mick's ego was already troublesome for the band (touring is a very stressful time for most bands) and essentially Mick and Shane's erratic behaviour was too much for Bill and Lee who were effectively the opposite end of the scale in terms of attitude and personality. Of course, as already stated, the two had bands of their own and so when the tour ended, they quit.
For the record, Lee Dorian and Bill Steer are 2 of the most genuine people you could ever hope to meet.
I met Bill at a Carcass show and yeah, he's a great guy, very down to Earth and thoughtful.
Where can someone read the long story? (about all the turmoil between members)
@@joebreakerx Give us a day or so I'll have a look for ya
@@louithrottlerfound it yet?
@@janglynerd I didn't mate. One thing I can say is that I'm a mate of Bills and it was from Lee I heard it first. Bill isn't the type to get involved in talk. Although I am, lol, and can confirm.
no mention of Godflesh? probably the most influential member offshoot that came of Napalm Death
100% with you on this
That was my thought exactly, Justin Brodrick put out a lot of different stuff including Godflesh, but I wonder if he really helped out Earache records with their success? I have to go back and look how many albums did they release on Earache.
Huh, looks like 5 studio and 3 eps according to wikipedia,
They glossed over the fact that Napalm Death used to have 9 members. Their former bass player Varg then killed 4 bandmates in self defense after they got into an argument about cornflakes and fire safety.
LMAOOO
IM CRYING WHATTTT
1:45 That's Justin Broadrick, Nick Bullen is to his left.
Al’ saying in 1989 Bill ‘already had a rough working of Carcass’ - they were on their second LP already!!
...and those first two LP's were pretty rough LOL :)
@@JadeDude1973 symphonies of sickness is my favorite carcass album
Can't even tell Nik Bullen from Justin Broadrick?
Forest of Equilibrium is pure unique genius
Matthew Allen yes it is.
I always liked the first demo more
Also - Jim Whiteley played bass on side two of Scum
"...and side Two was Lee Dorrian, Bill Steer, and Mickey Harris on drums..." Bullshit. If you bother going on the internet, 30 years after, at least give useful informations and say Who played Fuckin' bass Guitar!!!
It pisses me off that he doesn't get any recognition, he wrote excellent lyrics.
Also they used a picture of Justin, when he said Nik went on to do Scorn
Fun fact; Embury's first recorded performance was Peel Sessions 13th September 1987, and that is a twelve songs in 5:40 monster of a release.
that's one of the things I like about Lee, a man of conviction in his beliefs. going from ultra fast to ultra slow and not givin a shit what anybody thought about it/ Cathedral I own every one of their albums/ bar 1 perhaps!ha.cheers.well worth a listen if ya into doomy stuff at the moment!
Same as Rich Walker, from Sore Throath to Solstice, staying true to his roots!!!
Agreed. I own all ND & Cathedral albums except for 1 of each band (Spiritual Birth Machine & Words From The Exit Wound). Love both bands for different reasons. Lee has appeared on 2 of the most legendary extreme albums of all time (FETO & Forest Of Equilibrium). Hail to the masters \m/
When are you ever going to talk about entombed left Hand path classic album
Perfection
Lee left because Dig used his residual to cover some expenses on whatever nonsense thing. He also couldn't stand Mick. This has been documented in various forms for years and years. Way to rewrite history as always, and LIE Earache.
It's weird that Earache would even talk about them as they have been fighting eachother for quite some time, Barney has a strong dislike for the label and it's obvious why.
They sold truckloads of albums and lee was flat broke . One of Bolt Thrower told me that the sleeve of their new album on Earache was the most expensive thing the label had done up to that point and it was paid for by Napalm Death.
"Do they know that?"
"I doubt it."
At one of their last shows in Japan, I believe Lee quoted Johnny Rotten by saying, “Ever get the feeling you’ve been cheated?”
Napalm goes even further back than Earaches releases. They were an anarcho punk band that had a track on Crass' bullshit detector compilation.
It would be great if you guys would go deeper with Al about all the bands mentioned. There is gold in there.
I like Cathedral, but I can’t believe Lee split.
Damn they all split to cool bands
And Justin Broadrick went on to do...?
I like the new Napalm Death stuff, but it's harder for me to make it through an entire album than their older stuff. I do prefer the 90's I miss Barney's old vocals. Just seems weird that Mitch is in limbo and no one is sure when he's coming back
Greg Baltzer Wish there would just be some solid info on him at least...
To be honest, the last album I liked was Utopia banished, the following albums did nothing for me, and my favorite records will always be Harmony corruption and Mentally murdered.
Sad that Godflesh wasn't mention and lol that's justin broadrick not nick haha
Also: no fucking mention of Godflesh?
0:47 That's the Mentally Murdered ep band photo, Side B scum did not feature Shane Embury, that is some lazy editing right there, at least make an effort when making a video like this.
Al. Your cool man. I like listening to your storys.
I was pen friends with drummer Mick when I had the fanzine Invincible Force in the late eighties in Tampa, Florida.
Lol I remember you from the zine and tape trading days
@@jlobiafra Yeah I was big into the tape trading scene in those days.
@@bryandaniel2856 weren't you a drummer for some bands? I may have you mixed up with someone else but I did correspond with you. I did a fanzine called repulse-zine.
@@jlobiafra No I'm not a drummer but I had my zine and also helped out with Bruce Davis's zine Ripping Headaches.
@@bryandaniel2856 i got you mixed up with a guy named ty Smith who did a zine around that time. But I did have a couple of your zines. I wish I still had them in storage, a younger friend of mine bought out all my old zines, paid me good money for them
You say Mick and Nick but you cut to Justin. 😉
What’s the opening track? Sounds like Dying Fetus.
What about the old decapitated records?
What cathedral song was that ?
Ebony Tears
I don't know much about history... but that's a killer line about going from the fastest band on earth into the gloom
Is there one of these for cathedral
pay attention
Justin Broderick went on to do Godflesh!
these stories about the hatred emails are very funny, I laugh a lot with this guy emulating the complains that the record company received.
2:16 microphones isn’t connected 😂 yes I am very fun at parties.
Desde Granada España con napalm death scum hasta el dia que me muera
nice
That's not Nic that's Justin
me - Aspirin Fanzine 1988-1991
jon w is that your zine?
godstomper -yes, worked at Drastic Plastic till 1995. 80s was a great era for music of ALL types to "bubble" up
jon w awesome to hear. Did you ever upload your zines to the net for people to read? I ve always looked for your zines on ebay but they go pretty quick.
Quite a few errors and omissions in this story.
Ethereal Mirror is like Poison, lmao!
🤘
Yeah you should have went how Justin Broderick formed God flesh which spread out so much into different kinds of music and also make Harrison's corn which pushed the envelope not to mention the other guys cuz you did.be better!
Cathedral and Carcass? How in the fuck do you not even mention Godflesh or Scorn? Scorn's "Vae Solis" album WAS the original Napalm Death line-up! Bullen, Broadrick, and Harris.
That's the Scum line up, not the original .
Whats hate mail?
Opposite of love letters bro..
It's like a really mean shitty UA-cam comment from some asshole complaining. But it's sent through the mail instead on the Internet.
Arch Heretic Welcome to planet Earth.
Why Bill Steer is a god when?
This is cheesy as hell. What a half-arsed summary.
Seth Putnam sent me here! RIP Seth!!
Free mortiis
lml NAPALM DEATH lml
Line-up change is sucks.
Not for NAPALM DEATH.
I freaking hate Earache Records lol
The original soy boys of metal.
Sadly yes, but their music is still awesome
Wtf is that supposed to mean ?
@@jimmytgoose476 cause they’re very liberal guys
Ah. The usual selfish and indifferent sneering at those who actually gaf .
@wx o kampi why sadly ?