Kendrick vanished for 5 years and people use that as a dig on Kendrick for his absence? In that span Drake couldn’t drop 1 good solo project, yet in 1 verse Kendrick makes more of an impact than Drake’s last 4 solo albums combined.
@@armin8090 kendrick’s music lasts longer tho. The initial hype for a drake album will always be there but bro. NO ONE is listening to that bullshit anymore. At least not that I know of🤷♂️ u get clowned for listening to drake now tbh
Nah I get it now. Imagine Kendrick putting his life and soul into a track and the “I wanna fold your clothes” nigga and the “say you’re a lesbian girl me too” nigga say we’re on the same level. I’d be mad too
*I ALREADY KNOW* J-Cole is meditating 🧘♂️ on a mountain somewhere - feeling his beard hairs grow.. while Drake is looking at himself in a mirror saying “Write some shit and respond - or I’ll blow your brains out tonight”
@@firstlast9846imma have this verse and that one bar on repeat in my head for months im gonna be walking around reciting it for no reason it’s too fire and catchy than it has any right to be lmao
Let’s be honest, no one but Kendrick fans are mentioning Control. The rest of rap moved on after a year. Just off the past few days I’m wondering if that’s the only thing they can hang onto when no one wants to really deal with making a response to him when he disses. It’s a losing battle, Dot fans will say the response was mid/trash, other rapper’s fans will say it’s a hit, general public will still be hung on the original diss from Kendrick and eventually file into their respective sides. I like Kendrick’s music, just tired of seeing the same thing every 2.5 years.
@@nicholaskerr5453 Drake fans have the memory and attention span of a goldfish so obviously you ain't remembering shit from 11 years ago. Also control is being mentioned everywhere right now, not just by fans.
@@josephbartholomew As of right now? Yeah. It’s like letting the cat out of the bag for Control. Once it’s mentioned by one, everyone else will follow. I do agree with part of the Drake point. It was the same way with Future from 2012-2014 but to them, Kendrick fans are in starvation mode after he drops an album, you’ll never know when the next one is coming, even if he’s building hype right now. Have to say, I can agree with that.
Kendrick didnt diss a single person on control. He just named a bunch of rappers that were out. His verse was decent. And nobody remembers actually bars from it, yall only remember “that he called out everybody” in the softest, safest, friendly and most non direct way possible.
The thing about Kendrick…he doesn’t HAVE to put out an album every year like everyone else. It has obviously been proven that he can go away for years, come back and still make HUGE waves and cultural impact that LASTS. Drake is the most mainstream, but a lot of his newer songs are “here today and gone tomorrow.” He doesn’t often make timeless hits in the same way Kendrick does. It is what it is. All of Kendricks albumsI can listen to straight through no skips, the same does not go for Drake. You’re right about Kendrick being right. I might be a little upset too if I was him. Also, I agree… Cole too nice lol.
Yes you do. No one can take 5 years off in they prime and have serious convos about him being the goat. Drake literally won artist of the decade while kdot in hiatus
@@abdulclutch4509Your dead ass wrong and you crazy to think that. A lot of the greatest MCs to ever touch a mic didn't drop every year. I don't know where you got that idea from. Unless you just want microwave rushed music. Hell Cole hasn't dropped a album pushing 3 years. And he still around, so that also proves your wrong
Drake makes fast food music, Kendrick is my favourite out the two but I actually have more Drake on my playlist just as it is more accessible from a general listen. Fast food music.
I honestly never understood Drake's stance on the Control verse, he acted like Kendrick talked shit behind his back but was cool in person. For that to be true, the Control verse would have had to have been a diss and it wasn't. I don't think Kendrick has to be on some "fuck you nigga" type energy in person in order for him to say that he wants to be better than everyone else. If Usain Bolt said he wanted to be the greatest ever, that doesn't mean he had any real life problems with Tyson Gay or Justin Gatlin, just means he thinks he's better.
Yeah bruh when I watched them Drake interviews about the Control verse he just sounded soft tbh. Literally they had hella people respond to Kendrick’s control verse and knew what it was. Drake just did the most😂
Agreed. Kdot literally said “I got love for you all, but imma murder you niggas” and literally no one from the 20 name drop took offense to it except for Drake.
Kendrick doesn’t need baby keem to refresh his style. Yet Drake need yachty to keep him young and fresh in music. One artist ages like fine whine while Drake is a fucking vampire sucking the souls of every person and genre to stay relevant without an innovative project. Kendrick has been innovative every project Drake hasn’t
Kendrick 11 years ago, drops a verse that fucks the game up Kendrick on Hood Politics: "It's funny how one verse could fuck up the game" 7 years later, ONE verse has indeed fucked up the game again
You can totally be aggressively competitive with your peers in your field without having an actual problem with them. Just cuz Kendrick said what he said in the control verse doesn’t mean that he has to have real life negative energy towards the rappers he named. I think that shows with a lot of the other rappers he mentioned not taking offense and still acknowledging that Kendrick is a dope artist and getting features from him way after that verse, like Mac Miller and Tyler The Creator
Literally. Drake is the only one that took it personally and made it a real issue. Everyone took it as competition, threw a few shots back and kept it moving
@@zanestarrk6891Drake AND J Cole took it personally and called it clout chasing for years. Drake was more vocal about his dislike to the Control verse while J Cole aligned with a chaotic neutral of " I see what you mean but this is still clout chasing" in response to the Control verse.
@@duragg_plays j Cole did not take it personal. He had a playful response on the tko remix, and since then they’ve collaborated, did the Black Friday remixes, came to each others shows, and Cole constantly gives props. They’ve been cool ever since
@@zanestarrk6891 Lemme remix what I said... Drake took it personal as an offense. Cole took it personal as challenge for best MC. And cool isn't exactly the right word as they currently aren't on terms to EVER collaborate on any lyrical projects. Punch from TDE has spoken on this. Cole hasn't thrown jabs like how Drake did in his older mixes hence why they might looked at as being "cool" but look up some breakdowns of the J Cole vs Kendrick "beef" and you will see exactly what I'm talking bout. Also name that last time J Cole and K-Dot did a track or show TOGETHER and tell me how long ago it was. Cause unless I'm mistaken the last show featuring both of them was last done before 2014 and the black friday remix was the LAST project those two ever did together..... they are not "cool" so at best they are cordial.
he is just wack, ne never was good to begin with fans are just children and dont know any better, now they get mature and think hey wait a minute this guy is annoying and he says nothing
This is my favorite video right now - Cole and Drake too happy to be considered in a league with Kendrick.. so glad Kendrick clarified the obvious and signaled to us that he has more work coming!
J Cole has improved so much as a lyricist but like Shawn said, he’s too nice. I love hearing him talk himself up on songs but he’s never really gone at someone else in the same way that Kendrick or Drake have, so unfortunately, until he shows otherwise he’s always gonna have the bronze
So you're saying just because Cole hasn't dissed anybody he's not in the competition. Are u even listening to yourself? U and d guy in the video have lost it for real.
Superb analysis from Shawn. Kendrick was on a mission to educate and save the world through his music with songs like U, UNTITLED 01,SING ABOUT ME, DOLLAR COST ETC at least till Mr.Morale where he admits he is no longer the *Saviour*, only for the other two to make songs that truly do not amount to anything holistically and innovative IMO especially with Drake for the most part. So why TF won't he feel offended? My dude made his intentions for the rap game clear since The Heart Prt. 1 and stood on business ever since even when J.cole and Drake had the stardom.
@@hiltonhosannah769 Certainly, but he has never put out anything that merits comparing him with Kendrick, who has put out some of the most meaningful works of art, not just in hiphop but across music
@@svidyut4402 MM&TBS wasn’t good enough for Kendrick to talk like this, IMO. Kendrick’s best material is more than half a decade old at this point. Yes, his run from ‘11 - ‘17/‘18 was legendary, but it’s not insane to say Cole has closed the gap in that time period, in my eyes.
2:55 I think that’s Kendrick’s point in all this. He’s pushing the envelope & carrying mainstream Rap on his back, tryna keep it alive & well by making the most thoughtful, powerful music possible all the while bearing his soul through it all just to have a dude like Drake who’s made a mockery of the genre & Cole who he’s simply better than get celebrated while he gets heat & ridiculed & doubted.
KENDRICK REALLY GOT THAT MF DOG IN HIM. Anyone who thinks otherwise should go back to Good Kid, Maad City and listen to Kendrick tell his story. Kendrick has so much integrity. You can tell that he stands for something in life beyond the music. Something bigger than vapid fame and glory. That’s the difference between Kendrick and Drake. Drake still figuring and finding himself in life. Kendrick’s environment as a kid forced him to grow up and mature quick. And it’s fine that Drake is still finding himself, everyone matures at different rates, but when you’re a rapper as big as him and essentially get called out on it, it’s gonna hurt. The truth hurts, but it’s necessary to grow. So I think Kendrick is actually doing Drake a favor by bringing this to his doorstep. Cole & Kendrick definitely respect each other because they both share this similar outlook on life. Maturity, spirituality, building a closer relationship with God. These are a few common threads that sow Kendrick and Cole’s ideologies together. Cole just had to catch a stray because rap’s competitive spirit is about obliterating your competition.
I love this verse and this album so much (We Don’t Trust You), because it feels like it breathed life back into hiphop. The energy shifted, it feels like every artist now feels the need to step it up. They see what’s going on and say to themselves, “damn, well if Drake can get hit, no one untouchable.” And that’s exactly what rappers needed. Rap was getting too comfortable. Everyone was getting too confident. No one had anything to prove, and it was resulting in stale music and energy in the genre. That’s why the girls been holding shit down cuz they the only one who actually got something to prove.
Drake doesn’t acknowledge Kendrick in his music because they have literal beef. Not because he’s more competitive than Cole. Cole giving props is literally him just being who he’s been his whole career. Authenticity shouldn’t be seen as an issue.
@@mate2nicethe opps? What are you 12? Unless someone was physically harmed there is no opps.Cole was clicked up with Drake since before Kendrick even came out.
Y'all remind the BET 2013 TDE Cypher when Kendrick said " Nothing been the same since they dropped Control and a tucked a sensitive rapper back in his pajamas clothes" lol I still think about that.
Drake said he pushing ptsd on "rich flex" i think kendrick didn't like that after making mr morale. He said "i still got ptsd" right before the big three line.
@@ODDiSEE_ Right....even in between that....Jay called him out BY NAME on the Summerjam stage....Nas took about a month to respond with Stillmatic Freestyle. Then Jay added a whole new verse to Takeover that was VERY direct shot and put it on his album....which sold like 400k first week despite dropping on 9/11. Nas still waited until December (3 months later) to drop Ether and no one gave a fuck. "Respond immediately or you lose" mentality didn't start until Drake said it to Meek. Stans just ran with it
At the end of the day Jcole lowkey takes the biggest loss in this beef. Putting out that Big Three statement really made him look weak. Drake not responding is also an L but people are still gonna ride with him no matter what he does. Kendrick really put his meat on the table and no one wants to say anything.
I agree. When J Cole said that verse, I disagreed. Drake can rap, yes, but he just isn’t rapping like he is hungry. He cries about women he could’ve had but had a secret baby on, what the hell? You are almost thirty. That’s why I admire tracks like 8 AM in Charlotte, 30 For 30 Freestyle, etc. because he is in his best element. I know the love songs got him here, but he is a bitter lover boy introducing that character within his music. Some songs are catchy, yes, but it just doesn’t stick like it should. J. Cole also said that line and had the nerve to follow up with, “The Spiderman meme is me looking at Drake.”, Mr. Jermaine Cole..
@@voicessamples7396 It’s really sad to see him spiraling further into his bitter bag. (Unrelated) I was just listening to the *If You’re Reading This, It’s Too Late* album and I literally like every song on there. I can play that album from top to bottom with no skips. Nowadays, I may like a couple of songs from his albums. How are you feeling about his recent discography lately?
I agree that Cole needa stop wit the buddy buddy shit ngl if you gon say you better, stand on that lol. He doin all this diplomatic shit, poke ya chest out man.
This might be the most mature and thoughtful analysis of the entire scenario. Removing all fandom and emotion and looking at it all objectively. Salute.
7:10 Wow. The way you said Drake and Kendrick have been on some "You not like me" type shit before Not Like Us came out really shows how attuned your perspective is. Very interesting take. Subscribed 🖤
Control was not overhyped, It was a statement that needed to be made, especially by someone with Kung Fu Kenny's Caliber. In an industry, full of goofy friendships and fake props, straightforward behaviour should be encouraged more.
@@chrisringer5778 some guy made a video which dropped a week before this kendrick verse, where he explained how the two been sendin shots at each other for a decade now and how they actually don’t fw each other how everybody thought. He also predicted that kendrick will respond which just happened
I don’t know if dot doesn’t like J Cole, I just think he’s tired of people constantly mentioning drake and Cole in the same light as him. They ain’t on the same level as Pulitzer Kenny.
@@southboomin7790 I saw the video. A good chunk of it is reachy, essentially counting "I'm the goat" as a subliminal and also subliminals that don't make sense timewise (using the line Steppers as a evidence before Kendrick even released Mr Morale and Big Steppers). There were definitely some more concrete shots in there though like the Jan 28 line, DNA get rearranged, and swear they compare but the truth Humble
This a great take. He’s albums actually speak on something. Every song speaks about a message. consistently trying to make the world a better place while still stayin in tune with the sound and craziest bars. Mann he got Pulitzer it’s really not a big three.
Cole (the least impactful of him, Kdot and Drake) out here putting the idea of the "big 3" forward and putting himself up with the others. Sean hit the nail on the head saying Cole like the ugly dude calling you twin.
cole is afraid to say he's better than drake. i think drake did to him what he tried to do to the weeknd which is to diffuse the threat by pretending he's a friend
Right. I said this the other day. It was always kendrick and drake for the crown. The past few years cole been having a dope run while kendrick was absent and this recent run has him up there with them for some but for 12 years plus it's been always been kendrick and drake.
Look, I’m a HUGE fan of all 3. I just think it’s hilarious how after Kendrick went on that hiatus & dropped Mr. Morale (an album I loved, but YA’LL hated) every1 had Drake & Cole in the 1-2 spots & Kendrick dropped to 3rd. Now he puts out 1 verse that was really good but not AMAZING & every1 starts shitting on Drake. Ya’ll switch up so quickly lol.
Cuz they hype beasts. Mr. Morale is a great album. But if not tryna accept it for its concept, of course it won’t feel like it. Them the “fans” from DAMN era
I don't understand why some people wanna downplay the impact of Kendrick's Control verse. It had tonnes of MCs in their feelings and responding. It has been a talking point for years lol
Drake will have some bars but not on a Kendrick or Cole level. I think Kendrick and Cole have always taken being a rapper more seriously than Drake has so it's def more of their thing. Out of Kendrick and Cole? I think it would be hella interesting to see who comes out as the winner.
I mean for that to happen cole would have to respond .. and i don't think he will cause he is scared of losing which is understandable because k dot is in the opp
@@dhdydbemjxgcn2141 it’s just my opinion that’s all. It still remains to be seen. I want them all to spar bar for bar bc it would be great for the genre of rap yk?
Saying Drake is a better rapper than Kendrick is like saying Taylor Swift is a better vocalist than Whitney Houston. Just because you’re a big star doesn’t mean you’re the most talented.
J.Cole already said. "It won't be for clout, it won't be for fame It won't be 'cause my shit ain't sellin' the same It won't be to sell you my latest lil' sneakers It won't be 'cause some nigga slid in my lane" He's chilling right now.
how can u chill when dude told u he's the better rapper ? he doesnt need to diss him but at least do something showing he loves the craft and wants to create the best art
@@goodkid1985 drake on tour sonning him in his speeches .like saying shit like i am where i am be6cause of u, u pushed me to surpass u type shit basically pretending he's better than him to his face
he should reply because its fun, i mean its not like the shots kendrick fired were super fucked up or going to far, its the perfect little opportuinity to bring some heat without it being super deep and personal
The reality is Drake and Cole should never have acknowledged the Big 3 thing and actually using Kendrick's name as a means to get clicks (basically) He warned them 7 years ago "say his name and i promise that you'll see Candy man"
I think Kendrick dissed these guys because they want to make a hit song using his name and not include him in the song , Drake is such a culture vulture that he knows Kendrick is not messing with him but he still endorses the song being about the big 3 , puts Nike in the video and makes his money on Kendrick’s name 💔💔💔 J- Cole is saying it is the big 3 why, didn’t he reach out to Kendrick or at least mediate to bring them together and have 3 of them on the song , but he wants to pretend like he is cool with Kendrick but actions speak louder than words
The BIG part about control that people kinda ignored is that a WEST COAST ARTIST said he’s the King Of NY. That shit got you killed 20 years ago. It was an INSANELY BALLSY thing for a rapper, in one of the most dangerous profession, inviting ACTUAL REAL SMOKE. Casuals got caught up in the names said, but Kendrick made a REAL 90s IM THE BEST FUCK THE OTHERSIDE MOVE. Not this modern day everybody buddy buddy can eat malarkey. Everyone can eat but only ONE can be the best. Kendrick is truest embodiment of hip hop. Alpha man moves.
I have to agree with the take. Kendrick confident and technically the best. Best content and skill and still manages to sell. Drake is great but has writers and help and surface level content. J.Cole has rapped better and deeper content than Drake but hes not at Kendrick level lyrically and cant make hits like adrake so he stuck in the middle. "Middle Child".
I’d argue the Control verse did do something because multiple rappers responded and it’s still being talked about to this day. It might not be talked about for the bars but him calling out other rappers by name was not common in the 2010s.
Cole and Drake stans are just emotional cuz Kdot can disappear for a couple of years and still make a bigger impact than both of them with 1 verse, he wants all the smoke and fans are either sensitive or biased, Love how fans get in their feelings when their favourite rapper get dissed lol so it's okay when ppl are "glazing" Cole and Drake but since it's Kdot who has a better discography than both of them it's an issue.😂
@@wedontagelikemilktho.7839 bigger impact in his diapers.. little ricky does not have a good discography in fact its horse sh*t. even i i have a better discography than kendrik and all i have is 1 kendrick diss song in which i make him apologize to tupac
If I was Cole i would say fuck it and drop the collab album wit Kdot that Soul said was already ready inna vault just so it would take all the pressure off of him since he unknowingly put himself in this situation just to break the ice and have everything settle and be cool again. They would easily go number one if they dropped.
@@justinnyugen7015 I disagree nothings gonna top when he said “I feel like Phil, they be living like Carlton when I leave them in the Will”! Big Sean really embraced his corniness on Precision and I applaud him for that.
Drake does have some songs with substance, but it's very clear what the majority of his fanbase and the new gen of rap fans want to hear from him. His Scary hours 3 songs were great but the biggest song out of the 3 was probably the worst, bc people would rather yell out "fuck my ex" than actually listen to the lyrical bombs this man was dropping. Kendrick isn't willing to compromise quality for quantity and tho I respect that he's also clearly in a better position to do so because he's seen as a conscious rapper and leader whereas Drake is seen as pop rapper.
It's not about putting out a bunch of music every 5 minutes, it's about taking time, living life, experiencing new things and producing music from a place of inspiration thats when people can feel it and appreciate it, that's when you make timeless classics. Fans that keep begging artists to drop songs every 5 minutes domt actually want something quality, you just want them to keep satisfying your 5 minute long attention spans and eventually the artist gets burned out and you complain because you know they can do better. So don't expect Kendrick to drop bs songs or albums every other day, he actually takes time, thought, strategy and puts alottof effort into his work. Many are still appreciating classic albums of his from a decade ago!
Drake is and has been the issue here. When Kendrick dropped his control verse and basically said “I’m cool with these guys, but this is hip hop and I’m still competing with myself” Drake got in his feelings and reacted with high levels of light skin nigga energy. And both Cole and Drake basically said in FirstPersonShooter that there’s a top 3/got discussion but it’s really just them. Drake definitely acknowledges Kendrick, he’s just crafty about it bc that smoke in particular is something he isn’t built for
does anyone else feel like these 3 are too far into their careers to still be doin this. not sayin they’re old but the competition itself is gettin old.
Well actually now is the perfect time to do this. They’re basically in the twilight of their careers. It can be argued that any potential any of them might’ve had has been fully or almost completely realized. With discographies spanning multiple decades now more than ever it’s safe to make judgements on who is better than who and by how much, yet people are still clowning around acting like they’re all on the same level when there is a clear obvious gap in skill that has existed for over 10 years.
@@chroma4508FACTS, Bro. I was listening to Overly Dedicated earlier today and GOD DAMN. I love Cole, but he ain't ever dropped anything harder than Ignorance Is Bliss, whereas Kenny fr get's better with time. And I don't even consider Drake to be a rapper, tbh.
🤣 nah all he does is sneak diss then when he gets called out and his feelings hurt he runs and hides. Did you feel that way when he bodied meek? But I bet you felt that way push bodied him now dot. Drake made more money but to say more successful is a stretch!🤣🤣✅️
@@blackjuice5092 no i didnt hear any diss songs with meek mill or push. i dont think its a stretch, kendrick is some local artist with a strange voice and his music is boring. drake is a singer for girls and parties. and thats the guy kendirk is dissing? its pathetic and ridiculous kendri is like a modern p diddy i would not be suprised if something fishy comes out about him!
🤣🤣🤣 yall drake stans think he's the only artist in the world...any man that requires nda's to be around them should be worried, and draaaakkke is one of them!
The real Big 3
#1.Kendrick Lamarr
#2.K Dot
#3.Kung Fu Kenny
#4Mr Morale
#5 the Big stepper
I think Kung fu Kenny is better than Kendrick tbqh
Mr. 1-5 that’s the only logic 😮💨
cornrow kenny is way ahead of kung fu kenny
"MY TOP 5 IS DRAKE, DRAKE, DRAKE, DRAKE, DRAKE!"
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Drake going after megan: 😠 😡 👿 😤 🤬
Drake going after Kendrick: 😥🥺😳😫💀😫
u sound dumb
Did people Fr care he went after Megan?
Omg 😂
He's definitely got something cooking tho
Yes he did criticism and people were mad at him
@@FIREcrochethairstyleshis ghost writers do you mean?😂😂
Kendrick vanished for 5 years and people use that as a dig on Kendrick for his absence? In that span Drake couldn’t drop 1 good solo project, yet in 1 verse Kendrick makes more of an impact than Drake’s last 4 solo albums combined.
cooked.
Nah but I respect Kendrick for having his own privacy cause compared to drake we at least don’t know about his dick
I think it’s stupid criticizing Kendrick for being lowky and taking his time, but saying that verse made bigger impact than a drake album is crazy ngl
No bap
@@armin8090 kendrick’s music lasts longer tho. The initial hype for a drake album will always be there but bro. NO ONE is listening to that bullshit anymore. At least not that I know of🤷♂️ u get clowned for listening to drake now tbh
its the truth!! aubrey fell off@@armin8090
"Ugly guy calling you twin" 😭😭
that was the perfect way to explain ts too😂
Nah I get it now. Imagine Kendrick putting his life and soul into a track and the “I wanna fold your clothes” nigga and the “say you’re a lesbian girl me too” nigga say we’re on the same level. I’d be mad too
😂💀 ugly guy calling you twin is crazy
@@jordanj1738😂😂 facts
Bro 😂😂
*I ALREADY KNOW* J-Cole is meditating 🧘♂️ on a mountain somewhere - feeling his beard hairs grow.. while Drake is looking at himself in a mirror saying “Write some shit and respond - or I’ll blow your brains out tonight”
😂😂😂😂
J cole ain’t meditating. A lot of his bars aren’t self produced, he prob researching OG rappers good flows&bars to utilize.
He’s not looking in the mirror he’s looking at his ghost writer
am thorn 😂😂😂😂
@@davesenatus5566 why do you think J cole's bars aren't self produced?
DId yall see Drake's response...
Kendrick done turned this man into a motivational speaker😭
Bro prolly didn't even write that speech💀
Drake even got ghost writers for his speeches 💀
I’m so lost ,doesn’t Drake speak on some motivational shit on every tour he goes on ??
@ahzora8017 Brainwashed kid at his best
😂😂😂😂😂
@@Majestic_lionexactly. People are delusional and are on Kendrick meat.
Fuck the big three it’s just BIG ME.
I’ve had this bar, this verse on repeat for the past day or so.. THE DEFINITION of “Let Ya Nuts Hang”
@@firstlast9846imma have this verse and that one bar on repeat in my head for months im gonna be walking around reciting it for no reason it’s too fire and catchy than it has any right to be lmao
BUM!
everyone who thinks like that is just a giant nerd.. for nerds by nerds.. look at the guy in the video: what a muppet
This line about to be the most overrated line by Kendrick
A kid born and raised in Compton ain’t scared of a Canadian Jewish child star who wrote “Way 2 Sexy” 😂😂😂
That part😂
yeah and nobody is scared of some wacko loser from compton either
Exactly!
😂😂😂
😭😭😭hurtful af
Cole got warned, Drake got dissed
Nah I think the diss was more aimed at Cole because he’s the one who actually said the big 3 line on FPS.
@@jackrepeats28 didn't Drake technically bring it up in that interview in quarantine?
@@ggguNeck yeah I guess. I think the diss was aimed at both of them tho because Cole says it on First person shooter.
@@jackrepeats28bro he literally said your best work is light pack prince outlived mike jack. the diss was aimed at drake.
@@andrewb8712 it’s aimed at both Cole and Drake. You could say the Mike Jack line was aimed at Drake but the big 3 line was aimed at Cole
The control verse was a statement not a call to action. Kendrick is doing what he said he would.
The fact that people STILL talk about control after 11 yrs, shows that it did have a huge impact. Everybody came out and spoke about it
Not to mention all of the tracks in response to it.
Let’s be honest, no one but Kendrick fans are mentioning Control. The rest of rap moved on after a year. Just off the past few days I’m wondering if that’s the only thing they can hang onto when no one wants to really deal with making a response to him when he disses. It’s a losing battle, Dot fans will say the response was mid/trash, other rapper’s fans will say it’s a hit, general public will still be hung on the original diss from Kendrick and eventually file into their respective sides.
I like Kendrick’s music, just tired of seeing the same thing every 2.5 years.
@@nicholaskerr5453 Drake fans have the memory and attention span of a goldfish so obviously you ain't remembering shit from 11 years ago. Also control is being mentioned everywhere right now, not just by fans.
@@josephbartholomew As of right now? Yeah. It’s like letting the cat out of the bag for Control. Once it’s mentioned by one, everyone else will follow. I do agree with part of the Drake point. It was the same way with Future from 2012-2014 but to them, Kendrick fans are in starvation mode after he drops an album, you’ll never know when the next one is coming, even if he’s building hype right now. Have to say, I can agree with that.
Kendrick didnt diss a single person on control. He just named a bunch of rappers that were out. His verse was decent. And nobody remembers actually bars from it, yall only remember “that he called out everybody” in the softest, safest, friendly and most non direct way possible.
"Kdot say he the shit, but he cant out fart me" - Cole, probably
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thank you. roachdogjr 🖖
Ice Spice ass bars😂😂😂
😂💀 chill out
@@HallowlujahI know you didn’t just say that bruh
The thing about Kendrick…he doesn’t HAVE to put out an album every year like everyone else. It has obviously been proven that he can go away for years, come back and still make HUGE waves and cultural impact that LASTS. Drake is the most mainstream, but a lot of his newer songs are “here today and gone tomorrow.” He doesn’t often make timeless hits in the same way Kendrick does. It is what it is. All of Kendricks albumsI can listen to straight through no skips, the same does not go for Drake. You’re right about Kendrick being right. I might be a little upset too if I was him.
Also, I agree… Cole too nice lol.
Yes you do. No one can take 5 years off in they prime and have serious convos about him being the goat. Drake literally won artist of the decade while kdot in hiatus
@@abdulclutch4509 Kendricks existence proves this theory wrong. He did just that and everyone always includes him in Goat conversations
@@abdulclutch4509Your dead ass wrong and you crazy to think that. A lot of the greatest MCs to ever touch a mic didn't drop every year. I don't know where you got that idea from. Unless you just want microwave rushed music. Hell Cole hasn't dropped a album pushing 3 years. And he still around, so that also proves your wrong
@abdulclutch4509 His last album, he literally explained why he was gone for 5 years...
Drake makes fast food music, Kendrick is my favourite out the two but I actually have more Drake on my playlist just as it is more accessible from a general listen. Fast food music.
I honestly never understood Drake's stance on the Control verse, he acted like Kendrick talked shit behind his back but was cool in person. For that to be true, the Control verse would have had to have been a diss and it wasn't. I don't think Kendrick has to be on some "fuck you nigga" type energy in person in order for him to say that he wants to be better than everyone else.
If Usain Bolt said he wanted to be the greatest ever, that doesn't mean he had any real life problems with Tyson Gay or Justin Gatlin, just means he thinks he's better.
Yeah bruh when I watched them Drake interviews about the Control verse he just sounded soft tbh. Literally they had hella people respond to Kendrick’s control verse and knew what it was. Drake just did the most😂
It’s as simple as one is light skin and one ain’t
@@Kurokyura I just realized....Drake and Cole the only light skinned rappers he called out 😄
Agreed. Kdot literally said “I got love for you all, but imma murder you niggas” and literally no one from the 20 name drop took offense to it except for Drake.
@JRob1125 it's a sign lmao
Kendrick doesn’t need baby keem to refresh his style. Yet Drake need yachty to keep him young and fresh in music. One artist ages like fine whine while Drake is a fucking vampire sucking the souls of every person and genre to stay relevant without an innovative project. Kendrick has been innovative every project Drake hasn’t
Don’t forget stealing sminos whole drip during his dog era
@@meeksjjmword for word bar for bar, smino just THE innovator of today
I thought I was a big Drake hater, but the comment section is on an other level 😂😭👌
Now tell me how the FUCK does Drake need yachty 😭😭 this drake hate is just getting out of hand
@@dhdydbemjxgcn2141 Drake literally had Yachty write verses for him on Her Loss and FATD.
Shawn looking like a causally dressed teacher
He teaching us to analyse the rap game
yeah because kendrick makes songs for 12yos
@@henkdachiefyeah no a 100% to “pimp a butterfly” is child’s play but “honestly nevermind”? Now thats real rap
@@henkdachiefbruh
Kendrick 11 years ago, drops a verse that fucks the game up
Kendrick on Hood Politics: "It's funny how one verse could fuck up the game"
7 years later, ONE verse has indeed fucked up the game again
You can totally be aggressively competitive with your peers in your field without having an actual problem with them. Just cuz Kendrick said what he said in the control verse doesn’t mean that he has to have real life negative energy towards the rappers he named. I think that shows with a lot of the other rappers he mentioned not taking offense and still acknowledging that Kendrick is a dope artist and getting features from him way after that verse, like Mac Miller and Tyler The Creator
Literally. Drake is the only one that took it personally and made it a real issue. Everyone took it as competition, threw a few shots back and kept it moving
That's not true. Not everybody is wired the same. Some people can genuinely like a person and still wipe them out if they're in the way
@@zanestarrk6891Drake AND J Cole took it personally and called it clout chasing for years. Drake was more vocal about his dislike to the Control verse while J Cole aligned with a chaotic neutral of " I see what you mean but this is still clout chasing" in response to the Control verse.
@@duragg_plays j Cole did not take it personal. He had a playful response on the tko remix, and since then they’ve collaborated, did the Black Friday remixes, came to each others shows, and Cole constantly gives props. They’ve been cool ever since
@@zanestarrk6891 Lemme remix what I said... Drake took it personal as an offense. Cole took it personal as challenge for best MC. And cool isn't exactly the right word as they currently aren't on terms to EVER collaborate on any lyrical projects. Punch from TDE has spoken on this. Cole hasn't thrown jabs like how Drake did in his older mixes hence why they might looked at as being "cool" but look up some breakdowns of the J Cole vs Kendrick "beef" and you will see exactly what I'm talking bout. Also name that last time J Cole and K-Dot did a track or show TOGETHER and tell me how long ago it was. Cause unless I'm mistaken the last show featuring both of them was last done before 2014 and the black friday remix was the LAST project those two ever did together..... they are not "cool" so at best they are cordial.
Kendrick gave good eats for weeks.
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Drake Gonna Lose
It's barley a competition
Rap wise yes. Career wise nothing can affect his career or the way he looks to the general rap audience. Just look at the pusha t beef.
but cole gonna win
You sure bout that it isn't one sided bro drakes ghost writer's got bars bro
@miyoungpareno Idk brl it can go either way bit I will admit j. Cole been on businesses
Kendrick makes the game more interesting.
Drakes ghost writers on overtime
They haven't ( ghost writers) left the room since that rap song dropped 😅😅
@001KhyOVO sweatshop 😂😂😂
Funny hearing chat say Kendrick slowly falling off when he just had the most successful and profitable rap tour in the history of the genre 😂
Yeah while he grifted off Christianity
@@therealjdubNobody but butthurt Christians cared about the symbolism. Y'all soft
and the fact this song got reach #1 which is ridiculous
@@therealjdub Christianity is the OG grift lmao 😂
he is just wack, ne never was good to begin with fans are just children and dont know any better, now they get mature and think hey wait a minute this guy is annoying and he says nothing
This is my favorite video right now - Cole and Drake too happy to be considered in a league with Kendrick.. so glad Kendrick clarified the obvious and signaled to us that he has more work coming!
J cole reminds me of the meme of rooting for the refree to have a good game
J Cole has improved so much as a lyricist but like Shawn said, he’s too nice. I love hearing him talk himself up on songs but he’s never really gone at someone else in the same way that Kendrick or Drake have, so unfortunately, until he shows otherwise he’s always gonna have the bronze
Who has kenderick gon after m shut up. Control isn't going after someone. He never really dissed sean outside of subliminals. Stop it bro.
@@tdmidas289He just did, and that shit was the best diss I've heard since I've began listening to Hip-hop
@@forthelasttime4005Come on now! Don’t be dramatic 😂😂
So you're saying just because Cole hasn't dissed anybody he's not in the competition. Are u even listening to yourself? U and d guy in the video have lost it for real.
@@forthelasttime4005the best diss you’ve heard? You are a fucking clown LOL
Superb analysis from Shawn.
Kendrick was on a mission to educate and save the world through his music with songs like U, UNTITLED 01,SING ABOUT ME, DOLLAR COST ETC at least till Mr.Morale where he admits he is no longer the *Saviour*, only for the other two to make songs that truly do not amount to anything holistically and innovative IMO especially with Drake for the most part.
So why TF won't he feel offended? My dude made his intentions for the rap game clear since The Heart Prt. 1 and stood on business ever since even when J.cole and Drake had the stardom.
Cole made 4YEO and KOD. It’s unfair to say he never created material of substance, IMO.
@@hiltonhosannah769 Certainly, but he has never put out anything that merits comparing him with Kendrick, who has put out some of the most meaningful works of art, not just in hiphop but across music
In that kendrick hiatus cole dropped 2 of the best introspective albums in KOD and 4 your eyes only ...I don't know what you're talking about
@@goodkid1985 get your facts right 4 yours eyes only was 2016. Still doesn't negate my points. Compare lyrics with Rap genius and make your decision
@@svidyut4402 MM&TBS wasn’t good enough for Kendrick to talk like this, IMO. Kendrick’s best material is more than half a decade old at this point. Yes, his run from ‘11 - ‘17/‘18 was legendary, but it’s not insane to say Cole has closed the gap in that time period, in my eyes.
Well "control" wasn't a dis. It was a call to damn action. The fans loved it and it woke up hip hop.
Equivalent to the ugly n calling you twin got me cryin
2:55 I think that’s Kendrick’s point in all this. He’s pushing the envelope & carrying mainstream Rap on his back, tryna keep it alive & well by making the most thoughtful, powerful music possible all the while bearing his soul through it all just to have a dude like Drake who’s made a mockery of the genre & Cole who he’s simply better than get celebrated while he gets heat & ridiculed & doubted.
KENDRICK REALLY GOT THAT MF DOG IN HIM.
Anyone who thinks otherwise should go back to Good Kid, Maad City and listen to Kendrick tell his story.
Kendrick has so much integrity. You can tell that he stands for something in life beyond the music. Something bigger than vapid fame and glory. That’s the difference between Kendrick and Drake.
Drake still figuring and finding himself in life. Kendrick’s environment as a kid forced him to grow up and mature quick. And it’s fine that Drake is still finding himself, everyone matures at different rates, but when you’re a rapper as big as him and essentially get called out on it, it’s gonna hurt.
The truth hurts, but it’s necessary to grow. So I think Kendrick is actually doing Drake a favor by bringing this to his doorstep.
Cole & Kendrick definitely respect each other because they both share this similar outlook on life. Maturity, spirituality, building a closer relationship with God. These are a few common threads that sow Kendrick and Cole’s ideologies together. Cole just had to catch a stray because rap’s competitive spirit is about obliterating your competition.
I love this verse and this album so much (We Don’t Trust You), because it feels like it breathed life back into hiphop. The energy shifted, it feels like every artist now feels the need to step it up. They see what’s going on and say to themselves, “damn, well if Drake can get hit, no one untouchable.” And that’s exactly what rappers needed. Rap was getting too comfortable. Everyone was getting too confident. No one had anything to prove, and it was resulting in stale music and energy in the genre.
That’s why the girls been holding shit down cuz they the only one who actually got something to prove.
Drake doesn’t acknowledge Kendrick in his music because they have literal beef. Not because he’s more competitive than Cole. Cole giving props is literally him just being who he’s been his whole career. Authenticity shouldn’t be seen as an issue.
It’s not authentic though. It’s fake love. You showing me love but cliqued up with the opps and mentioning my records.
@@mate2niceyou saying fake love like you know the guy. Who knows what he actually thinks of kdot and the whole situation
@@JPdraws_we know what KDot thinks of the situation. That’s insight.
@@mate2niceall we know is he want to be considered the best and he and Drake don’t see eye to eye
@@mate2nicethe opps? What are you 12? Unless someone was physically harmed there is no opps.Cole was clicked up with Drake since before Kendrick even came out.
Y'all remind the BET 2013 TDE Cypher when Kendrick said " Nothing been the same since they dropped Control and a tucked a sensitive rapper back in his pajamas clothes" lol I still think about that.
“Haha jokes on you.” I forgot all about that Cypher until you said it.
kendrick could rap yono miles type lyrics and would still be a bettrer rapper hes just on another level as an artist imho
You're glazing g
don’t disrespect yuno miles like that kendrick ain’t on the same level as him there’s just a top 1 and it’s yuno miles
yeah and you are 15 and think you are smart
@@henkdachief no im just glazing
@@heinzchristian4517 rightfully so.
Kendrick went crazy bro, this thing gonna be a massacre.. hopefully it doesn’t get too personal. Even though it probably will.
I just saw Drake liked a video of Adin Ross saying Kendrick already recorded a proper diss so who knows if that will ever see the light lol
Welp..
Drake said he pushing ptsd on "rich flex" i think kendrick didn't like that after making mr morale. He said "i still got ptsd" right before the big three line.
Dam u caught that one Fr 😂 I didn’t even notice wtf! Definitely about k dot
@Lilkemet93 lol I can't take credit. I saw someone else say it
I feel like he was also implying he ain’t healed all the way.. he still a lil off.. which is why he’d easily drop drake his location
Kendrick Lamar CANNOT go back in the house after this. If Drake responds, Kendrick needs to RAP. No more 6 month hiatus bro
6 month "hiatus"
Today's fans would've died of boredom in the 90s and 00s 😂
@@JRob1125 Dawg right, ether took like 1 year to drop after bleek and then started dissin him.
@@ODDiSEE_ Right....even in between that....Jay called him out BY NAME on the Summerjam stage....Nas took about a month to respond with Stillmatic Freestyle. Then Jay added a whole new verse to Takeover that was VERY direct shot and put it on his album....which sold like 400k first week despite dropping on 9/11.
Nas still waited until December (3 months later) to drop Ether and no one gave a fuck.
"Respond immediately or you lose" mentality didn't start until Drake said it to Meek. Stans just ran with it
I don't trust this beef to be that interesting. Look at what drake's response was.
Drake ain’t responding 😂
At the end of the day Jcole lowkey takes the biggest loss in this beef. Putting out that Big Three statement really made him look weak. Drake not responding is also an L but people are still gonna ride with him no matter what he does. Kendrick really put his meat on the table and no one wants to say anything.
How does Cole take an L? Give the man time to respond.
We live in a time where people say giving props is weak. Dude said Kendrick is in the big three. That's not weak at all. That's just facts.
@@Majuuubf de big 3 😅
Kendrick doesn't have a diss song b4 you left shit loose outta Ur mouth
I agree. When J Cole said that verse, I disagreed. Drake can rap, yes, but he just isn’t rapping like he is hungry. He cries about women he could’ve had but had a secret baby on, what the hell? You are almost thirty. That’s why I admire tracks like 8 AM in Charlotte, 30 For 30 Freestyle, etc. because he is in his best element. I know the love songs got him here, but he is a bitter lover boy introducing that character within his music. Some songs are catchy, yes, but it just doesn’t stick like it should. J. Cole also said that line and had the nerve to follow up with, “The Spiderman meme is me looking at Drake.”, Mr. Jermaine Cole..
*FORTY You are almost FORTY
It’s hilarious that you were right, even if he were 30 lol. These are grown men with children.
@@voicessamples7396 It’s really sad to see him spiraling further into his bitter bag. (Unrelated) I was just listening to the *If You’re Reading This, It’s Too Late* album and I literally like every song on there. I can play that album from top to bottom with no skips. Nowadays, I may like a couple of songs from his albums. How are you feeling about his recent discography lately?
I agree that Cole needa stop wit the buddy buddy shit ngl if you gon say you better, stand on that lol. He doin all this diplomatic shit, poke ya chest out man.
This might be the most mature and thoughtful analysis of the entire scenario. Removing all fandom and emotion and looking at it all objectively. Salute.
100% facts!
This is what I've been telling folks since "Damn"
Kdot's body of work shadows Cole and Drake without question.
7:10 Wow. The way you said Drake and Kendrick have been on some "You not like me" type shit before Not Like Us came out really shows how attuned your perspective is. Very interesting take. Subscribed 🖤
Im a huge Cole fan but its really difficult not to agree with Shawn right here
If Drake is smart he won't respond lol 😅
He is but years later
Lupe walked so Kendrick can run 😪
pac
Control was not overhyped, It was a statement that needed to be made, especially by someone with Kung Fu Kenny's Caliber. In an industry, full of goofy friendships and fake props, straightforward behaviour should be encouraged more.
I don’t think kendrick would have agreed to be on first person shooter under any circumstances. I genuinely think he doesn’t like drake and cole
Saying he don’t like Drake is Cool but casually saying he don’t like Cole kinda crazy without real evidence
Nahhh he fw Cole still there’s no logical reason for him to not fw him. Unless it’s some shit that happened behind closed doors
@@chrisringer5778 some guy made a video which dropped a week before this kendrick verse, where he explained how the two been sendin shots at each other for a decade now and how they actually don’t fw each other how everybody thought. He also predicted that kendrick will respond which just happened
I don’t know if dot doesn’t like J Cole, I just think he’s tired of people constantly mentioning drake and Cole in the same light as him. They ain’t on the same level as Pulitzer Kenny.
@@southboomin7790 I saw the video. A good chunk of it is reachy, essentially counting "I'm the goat" as a subliminal and also subliminals that don't make sense timewise (using the line Steppers as a evidence before Kendrick even released Mr Morale and Big Steppers). There were definitely some more concrete shots in there though like the Jan 28 line, DNA get rearranged, and swear they compare but the truth Humble
Drake and Cole are simply not on the same level as Kendrick. Cole is closer than Drake but Kendrick actually has people listening
People forget after control Kendrick did a cypher that called out Drake as well.
Poor drake thought your fav said drake not a threat
Who’s here after the j Cole apology
Bro you articulated the real perfectly 💯
Damn I got here frame 1.
Frame 1 on Footsies
@@NeisanMo. what that mean?
@@BOGOworms4saleit’s a fighting game reference
@@yamdemcheeks5888 I mean I know that but I’m confused if they’re using it to imply something else
This a great take. He’s albums actually speak on something. Every song speaks about a message. consistently trying to make the world a better place while still stayin in tune with the sound and craziest bars. Mann he got Pulitzer it’s really not a big three.
We outchea!!
Cole (the least impactful of him, Kdot and Drake) out here putting the idea of the "big 3" forward and putting himself up with the others. Sean hit the nail on the head saying Cole like the ugly dude calling you twin.
cole is afraid to say he's better than drake. i think drake did to him what he tried to do to the weeknd which is to diffuse the threat by pretending he's a friend
@@thereallazygirl💯
Right. I said this the other day. It was always kendrick and drake for the crown. The past few years cole been having a dope run while kendrick was absent and this recent run has him up there with them for some but for 12 years plus it's been always been kendrick and drake.
Love Cole but he can’t compare to Drake and kdot
@@dhdydbemjxgcn2141 Artistically, Cole is a better rapper than Drake. Drake has more radio friendly hits.
Look, I’m a HUGE fan of all 3. I just think it’s hilarious how after Kendrick went on that hiatus & dropped Mr. Morale (an album I loved, but YA’LL hated) every1 had Drake & Cole in the 1-2 spots & Kendrick dropped to 3rd. Now he puts out 1 verse that was really good but not AMAZING & every1 starts shitting on Drake. Ya’ll switch up so quickly lol.
i still don’t get how people don’t like mr morale like ?? that album is GOATED fr . 🤕
Cuz they hype beasts. Mr. Morale is a great album. But if not tryna accept it for its concept, of course it won’t feel like it. Them the “fans” from DAMN era
You speaking straight facts to the algorithm.
I don't understand why some people wanna downplay the impact of Kendrick's Control verse. It had tonnes of MCs in their feelings and responding. It has been a talking point for years lol
Drake will have some bars but not on a Kendrick or Cole level. I think Kendrick and Cole have always taken being a rapper more seriously than Drake has so it's def more of their thing. Out of Kendrick and Cole? I think it would be hella interesting to see who comes out as the winner.
I mean for that to happen cole would have to respond .. and i don't think he will cause he is scared of losing which is understandable because k dot is in the opp
Drake got better bars than cole
@@dhdydbemjxgcn2141 it’s just my opinion that’s all. It still remains to be seen. I want them all to spar bar for bar bc it would be great for the genre of rap yk?
@@plaaaaaaaatinum1107I hope one of them responds lol
@yaboiiunclephil1552 brother Drake had a ghostwriter for a couple songs it doesn’t mean he didn’t write any of his songs😂
Damn. The accuracy of this aged beautifully. Lol
It aged like wine now
Saying Drake is a better rapper than Kendrick is like saying Taylor Swift is a better vocalist than Whitney Houston.
Just because you’re a big star doesn’t mean you’re the most talented.
Bro rant aged like fine wine 😂
J.Cole already said.
"It won't be for clout, it won't be for fame
It won't be 'cause my shit ain't sellin' the same
It won't be to sell you my latest lil' sneakers
It won't be 'cause some nigga slid in my lane"
He's chilling right now.
how can u chill when dude told u he's the better rapper ? he doesnt need to diss him but at least do something showing he loves the craft and wants to create the best art
@@thereallazygirlwell cole also said he's the better rapper tho ...numero Uno, Muhammad Ali
@@goodkid1985 drake on tour sonning him in his speeches .like saying shit like i am where i am be6cause of u, u pushed me to surpass u type shit basically pretending he's better than him to his face
he should reply because its fun, i mean its not like the shots kendrick fired were super fucked up or going to far, its the perfect little opportuinity to bring some heat without it being super deep and personal
So why he dissin then
The reality is Drake and Cole should never have acknowledged the Big 3 thing and actually using Kendrick's name as a means to get clicks (basically)
He warned them 7 years ago "say his name and i promise that you'll see Candy man"
I think Kendrick dissed these guys because they want to make a hit song using his name and not include him in the song , Drake is such a culture vulture that he knows Kendrick is not messing with him but he still endorses the song being about the big 3 , puts Nike in the video and makes his money on Kendrick’s name 💔💔💔 J- Cole is saying it is the big 3 why, didn’t he reach out to Kendrick or at least mediate to bring them together and have 3 of them on the song , but he wants to pretend like he is cool with Kendrick but actions speak louder than words
Kendrick can't make a hit to begin with
@DEADTXWN his 1st hit came from Taylor swift, humble, and metro ft future. Rap goat that can't make a hit?
The BIG part about control that people kinda ignored is that a WEST COAST ARTIST said he’s the King Of NY. That shit got you killed 20 years ago. It was an INSANELY BALLSY thing for a rapper, in one of the most dangerous profession, inviting ACTUAL REAL SMOKE.
Casuals got caught up in the names said, but Kendrick made a REAL 90s IM THE BEST FUCK THE OTHERSIDE MOVE. Not this modern day everybody buddy buddy can eat malarkey. Everyone can eat but only ONE can be the best. Kendrick is truest embodiment of hip hop. Alpha man moves.
I have to agree with the take. Kendrick confident and technically the best. Best content and skill and still manages to sell.
Drake is great but has writers and help and surface level content. J.Cole has rapped better and deeper content than Drake but hes not at Kendrick level lyrically and cant make hits like adrake so he stuck in the middle. "Middle Child".
I’d argue the Control verse did do something because multiple rappers responded and it’s still being talked about to this day. It might not be talked about for the bars but him calling out other rappers by name was not common in the 2010s.
Hey Shawn, those dreadlocks are looking good my boy
Listen to Black Friday of both Kendrick and Cole. They was never on the same level
Appreciate your take on this bro
Jcoles stated his position on being the best on fire squad.
The Kendrick glazing is back 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
its pathetic all these comments make me pull my hair out what a crowd
Cole and Drake stans are just emotional cuz Kdot can disappear for a couple of years and still make a bigger impact than both of them with 1 verse, he wants all the smoke and fans are either sensitive or biased, Love how fans get in their feelings when their favourite rapper get dissed lol so it's okay when ppl are "glazing" Cole and Drake but since it's Kdot who has a better discography than both of them it's an issue.😂
@@wedontagelikemilktho.7839 bigger impact in his diapers.. little ricky does not have a good discography in fact its horse sh*t. even i i have a better discography than kendrik and all i have is 1 kendrick diss song in which i make him apologize to tupac
@@henkdachief You gotta be trolling at this point
@@perhaps1094100% serious
You vids always pop on my feed 3 days after you post. Never more than 3, never less
Bro in the chat asking why Kendrick wont just go in, as everyone is talking about how he just went in.
I kinda do get that, this verse is more of him declaring hes the best and he obviously is, but it aint a Pusha T level diss if you know what I mean
@@Coolgamer54321yeah, the Kendrick verse seemed more like an open challenge to Cole and Drake, not an actual diss.
Cole is being emotional while Kendrick is smart
If I was Cole i would say fuck it and drop the collab album wit Kdot that Soul said was already ready inna vault just so it would take all the pressure off of him since he unknowingly put himself in this situation just to break the ice and have everything settle and be cool again. They would easily go number one if they dropped.
Makes Middle Child hit a liiiiitle bit different
Big Sean bodied all of them with Precision😂
Detroit stand up!
His Whole Time freestyle is better imo. That other pew pew song is just waiting to be meme''d (or made part of some Fortnite kid's montage)
@@justinnyugen7015 I disagree nothings gonna top when he said “I feel like Phil, they be living like Carlton when I leave them in the Will”! Big Sean really embraced his corniness on Precision and I applaud him for that.
I feel like Cole just don’t care enough to respond he got that HOV mindset of “saying I’m the best rapper is like saying I’m the tallest midget”
I feel like dissing drake is an easy win
Drake does have some songs with substance, but it's very clear what the majority of his fanbase and the new gen of rap fans want to hear from him. His Scary hours 3 songs were great but the biggest song out of the 3 was probably the worst, bc people would rather yell out "fuck my ex" than actually listen to the lyrical bombs this man was dropping. Kendrick isn't willing to compromise quality for quantity and tho I respect that he's also clearly in a better position to do so because he's seen as a conscious rapper and leader whereas Drake is seen as pop rapper.
you: Control verse didnt end up doing anything
also you: still talking about the Control verse like 10 years later
are you sure it didnt do anything?
It's not about putting out a bunch of music every 5 minutes, it's about taking time, living life, experiencing new things and producing music from a place of inspiration thats when people can feel it and appreciate it, that's when you make timeless classics. Fans that keep begging artists to drop songs every 5 minutes domt actually want something quality, you just want them to keep satisfying your 5 minute long attention spans and eventually the artist gets burned out and you complain because you know they can do better. So don't expect Kendrick to drop bs songs or albums every other day, he actually takes time, thought, strategy and puts alottof effort into his work. Many are still appreciating classic albums of his from a decade ago!
Control verse is overrated tbh
Nahhh cuz the impact of the verse is still being talked about and not even counting the name drops the verse itself is fire especially on relisten
@@popeyeschicken3535 I fw the verse but it really is overhyped. It simply a shock value type verse. Nothing more to it. Just some name drops
Very ....take out the name drops it's decent at best
Drake is and has been the issue here. When Kendrick dropped his control verse and basically said “I’m cool with these guys, but this is hip hop and I’m still competing with myself” Drake got in his feelings and reacted with high levels of light skin nigga energy.
And both Cole and Drake basically said in FirstPersonShooter that there’s a top 3/got discussion but it’s really just them. Drake definitely acknowledges Kendrick, he’s just crafty about it bc that smoke in particular is something he isn’t built for
does anyone else feel like these 3 are too far into their careers to still be doin this. not sayin they’re old but the competition itself is gettin old.
Well actually now is the perfect time to do this. They’re basically in the twilight of their careers. It can be argued that any potential any of them might’ve had has been fully or almost completely realized. With discographies spanning multiple decades now more than ever it’s safe to make judgements on who is better than who and by how much, yet people are still clowning around acting like they’re all on the same level when there is a clear obvious gap in skill that has existed for over 10 years.
@@chroma4508FACTS, Bro. I was listening to Overly Dedicated earlier today and GOD DAMN. I love Cole, but he ain't ever dropped anything harder than Ignorance Is Bliss, whereas Kenny fr get's better with time. And I don't even consider Drake to be a rapper, tbh.
“You can’t compete where you can’t compare” 🤷🏽♀️
Huge respect to shawn for this take.
That is a very self-righteous point of view
Saying Kendrick is that far ahead of Cole is wild
nah at first i was like what is he talking about but you proved me wrong, good incite.. subscribed
How is J cole afraid though 😂😂😂cause he didn't respond in 2 days ....and cole is rapping better than both of them right now
Cole World
Still haven't replied lol
That control verse is flames dawg 😂
and it was intended to elevate the art form and not to dismiss anyone.. he said, "I'm trying to raise the bar high."
Drake has the pride of a bullied kid! He picking and choosing who to go after! GOOFY WITH A ✅️ !
i think its goofy to compare yourself to a much more successfull artist and he doesnt even respond, you guys are on some copium
🤣 nah all he does is sneak diss then when he gets called out and his feelings hurt he runs and hides. Did you feel that way when he bodied meek? But I bet you felt that way push bodied him now dot. Drake made more money but to say more successful is a stretch!🤣🤣✅️
@@blackjuice5092 no i didnt hear any diss songs with meek mill or push. i dont think its a stretch, kendrick is some local artist with a strange voice and his music is boring. drake is a singer for girls and parties. and thats the guy kendirk is dissing? its pathetic and ridiculous kendri is like a modern p diddy i would not be suprised if something fishy comes out about him!
🤣🤣🤣 yall drake stans think he's the only artist in the world...any man that requires nda's to be around them should be worried, and draaaakkke is one of them!
@henkdachief and just because you didn't hear it ,doesn't mean it doesn't exist!✅️✅️
Good interpretation. You go a new subscriber brother
cole couldnt even win against noname in a battle bro i dont wanna hear anything from bro
You think cole was trying to beef with noname?
@@Never283 people just be saying anything nowadays
@@chaos5840 Kendrick fans are very insecure people
@@Never283 ... well damn im a kendrick and cole fan 😂
@@chaos5840 😂
Yeah they're both great
Saying his control verse didn’t do anything could be on surface level true but it’s no denying those he mentioned dropped their best soon after
J Cole is competitive he been smoking everybody on they own song last couple years he’s been on a feature run.
Discography still shaky af
@@nknewknowledge2678you can't be serious.....name me one weak cole album....just one
Man smoked majority entertainers and 1 solid lyricist..