This is what im talking about!! a good productive video with response and analysis... none of the bs whackers commenting on siren usage and techniques! thanks for this brother!!
was better in this one then the last few. he should have use a bit more care walking in front of that car and should have been sweeping the ground as he attacked. then the all around carelessness with being in front of car.
Waist straps should always be buckled no matter what call you are on. Now for a car fire its not a huge issue but better to get into to the habit of always having the waist strap done. Also every department is different. Allot of the episodes I've seen so far from into the smoke are great raw footage videos that are great learning tools for everyone. These videos also help the public to see what we do and give the public a great play by play! There's some things done in these videos that would get me written up if I were to do on a fire scene but does not mean they are wrong. But as I stated earlier every department has different sog/sop to follow. Keep up the good work into the smoke. looking forward to more
Too many people these days complaining about not wearing the SCBA waist straps. Yes they are supposed to be worn, yes they help with weight distribution of the packs, I can go on and on. Many times in the past if you needed to drag a fellow brother out of harm the airpack pull was the way to go. You cant do that if the straps are unbuckled but with the implementation of the DRD on all sets of current TOG this is kinda a moot point anymore. At least he was on air...
This is video full of bad training and poor use of a branch. Why would you start you're BA Set down wind of a fire when smoke is covering you and then put your mask on in that smoke? Do they teach how to use a branch over there? All I have seen on these episodes is just a jet of water, you will do more to a car fire or to a compartment fire if you use a cone of water. Ow and yes I am a fire fight and I know what I'm talking about and safety is important.
Screw safety put the fire out and save lives, where fireman not crossing guards, so worried about safety find a new career and leave the firefighting to the real brothers
+jim bob Because that shit sucks to wear until you need it. As for lines no idea, often wonder myself. He had to pull that front line (100' 1 3/4"), take a knee and mask up and hit it. And this was actually really well done. I've seen guys stand around for 2-3 minutes waiting for water, not for lack of having water with them, just waiting for a charged line. I've seen videos from various departments in Europe and they roll up and have what I guess are 1" or 1.5" reel lines. They roll up jump off pull two of those and a car fire is knocked in a minute. They'll pull those as a fast attack while they get their bigger lines up. Some departments in the US still have reels of red line...but they're considered glorified garden hoses. Someone from Europe wanna chime in?
denko238 If you have foam on your engines then yes. However with being volunteer sometimes you may get a great pump operator who knows how to turn it on in the right quantity, and then sometimes you may get a jackass who doesn't know how to turn it on. Depends.
Here, brother...page 76 (actually starts on 98-99 in the viewer). if you need more info, shoot me a message. epaperflip.com/aglaia/viewerUF.aspx?docid=123a5afd01b542c78831da39912839df
When you take classes they require you to clip the waist straps, but a lot of guys in the field don't bother. It depends on the person, my chief said he likes them because they help take some of the weight off of your shoulders.
Yeah wasn't sure if it was the same as here. If our waist straps aren't done up here in Australia we get a stern word. I find it stops the set flopping around on your back too, especially when bending over.
LarryNoir Umm they don't take some of the weight, they take ALL the weight off the shoulders if properly adjusted. Too many guys are carrying their packs very low slung on their backs with creates too much strain on shoulders. I used to be one of the no waist straps guys when I was younger many years ago, but have learned and changed my ways and boy is it much more comfortable.
my fire department uses this TV series as a "what not to do" training videos. so many things wrong with every video I've watched. from not attacking fire correctly, to poor ppe. I would be embarrassed to publicize these if it was my department. nice trucks though 👍
+Dylan Hawkins Chemistry is fun! Do they not teach this in FF1/2 or Fire Science courses or something??? Mg (s) + 2 H2O (l) → Mg(OH)2 (s) + H2 (g) Basically magnesium burns hot enough to split H20 into H2 and 0, is an exothermic (and often violent) reaction that only serves to add heat and fuel the fire. Magnesium also hates CO2: 2 Mg + CO2 → 2 MgO + C (s) (produces magnesium oxide and carbon, self oxidizing reaction) so CO2 extinguishers are out. You've got dry chemical D or...and this is really high tech so I'm not sure every department could afford it....a bucket of sand. Take away all available oxygen, even things that will decompose into an oxide from heat. Obviously here, you can drench it enough such that the production of heat by decomposition of H20 is overcome with water, cooling the magnesium enough to stop the reaction. A larger amount of magnesium though is a very, very bad day. So when they talk about water and magnesium, then go and toss more water on I'm not sure what they expect to happen. That 'white light' is just keeping the fire going and producing heat. Those pops and flares and re-ignition could be avoided with another firefighter having a simple dry chemical D extinguisher to hit those spots once it's knocked. Or, sand. (Foam still has plenty of H20 [no shit, you already know that lol] so no dice there either. Might be a little less violent but still just tossing fuel on.) Interesting aside: Chlorine trifluoride will actually ignite sand, asbestos, test engineers, cement, and pretty much anything it touches. It's really uncommon and generally produced in small amounts as needed on-site. But if you ever hear those words, run the other way. /chem rant
grey man masking up downwind, and yes, not having that waist belt done up either. Continuously throwing straight water onto a magnesium fire, the list goes on.
This is what im talking about!! a good productive video with response and analysis... none of the bs whackers commenting on siren usage and techniques! thanks for this brother!!
Great video!! Good use of PPE and observing other conditions for attacking this type of fire..positive training shows in this video...
was better in this one then the last few. he should have use a bit more care walking in front of that car and should have been sweeping the ground as he attacked. then the all around carelessness with being in front of car.
Waist straps should always be buckled no matter what call you are on. Now for a car fire its not a huge issue but better to get into to the habit of always having the waist strap done. Also every department is different. Allot of the episodes I've seen so far from into the smoke are great raw footage videos that are great learning tools for everyone. These videos also help the public to see what we do and give the public a great play by play! There's some things done in these videos that would get me written up if I were to do on a fire scene but does not mean they are wrong. But as I stated earlier every department has different sog/sop to follow.
Keep up the good work into the smoke.
looking forward to more
Too many people these days complaining about not wearing the SCBA waist straps. Yes they are supposed to be worn, yes they help with weight distribution of the packs, I can go on and on. Many times in the past if you needed to drag a fellow brother out of harm the airpack pull was the way to go. You cant do that if the straps are unbuckled but with the implementation of the DRD on all sets of current TOG this is kinda a moot point anymore. At least he was on air...
Is it bad that these videos are one of the things i look forward to in the week........
wish there were more videos on UA-cam like this..alot more
Yes finally first comment in a video!!!
This is video full of bad training and poor use of a branch. Why would you start you're BA Set down wind of a fire when smoke is covering you and then put your mask on in that smoke? Do they teach how to use a branch over there? All I have seen on these episodes is just a jet of water, you will do more to a car fire or to a compartment fire if you use a cone of water. Ow and yes I am a fire fight and I know what I'm talking about and safety is important.
cornchips7 and continuing to put straight water onto a magnesium fire? I mean, come on. Common sense seems to have vanished here.
Screw safety put the fire out and save lives, where fireman not crossing guards, so worried about safety find a new career and leave the firefighting to the real brothers
that's cool. I wonder how your wife/kids/parents feel about you be willing to die for a car fire.
I would love to know about how your chief would feel about you saying "screw safety".
We're** *****
HELL YES
at the beginning, thats the first fire dog I have seen in a really long time, and this one wasn't a dalmation......LOL
was the firefighter without the SCBA a junior firefighter or the engineer?
Great on scene video!
why wasnt that guy ready from the moment he got out of the truck? also why in the US do they have such long pointless hoses?
+jim bob Because that shit sucks to wear until you need it. As for lines no idea, often wonder myself. He had to pull that front line (100' 1 3/4"), take a knee and mask up and hit it. And this was actually really well done. I've seen guys stand around for 2-3 minutes waiting for water, not for lack of having water with them, just waiting for a charged line.
I've seen videos from various departments in Europe and they roll up and have what I guess are 1" or 1.5" reel lines. They roll up jump off pull two of those and a car fire is knocked in a minute. They'll pull those as a fast attack while they get their bigger lines up. Some departments in the US still have reels of red line...but they're considered glorified garden hoses. Someone from Europe wanna chime in?
id love to hear from some firefighters!!
Great video! Keep up the good work.
Try using foam...
White lighting!! White lighting!!
Don't you use foam in US for fires like this?
denko238 If you have foam on your engines then yes. However with being volunteer sometimes you may get a great pump operator who knows how to turn it on in the right quantity, and then sometimes you may get a jackass who doesn't know how to turn it on. Depends.
Would like ot see how that hose load is done.
Here, brother...page 76 (actually starts on 98-99 in the viewer). if you need more info, shoot me a message.
epaperflip.com/aglaia/viewerUF.aspx?docid=123a5afd01b542c78831da39912839df
3 man crew?
It's a Volly Company. But yes New Castle County runs 3 man crews a lot
Are waist straps optional on CABA sets?
When you take classes they require you to clip the waist straps, but a lot of guys in the field don't bother. It depends on the person, my chief said he likes them because they help take some of the weight off of your shoulders.
Yeah wasn't sure if it was the same as here. If our waist straps aren't done up here in Australia we get a stern word. I find it stops the set flopping around on your back too, especially when bending over.
LarryNoir Umm they don't take some of the weight, they take ALL the weight off the shoulders if properly adjusted. Too many guys are carrying their packs very low slung on their backs with creates too much strain on shoulders. I used to be one of the no waist straps guys when I was younger many years ago, but have learned and changed my ways and boy is it much more comfortable.
my fire department uses this TV series as a "what not to do" training videos. so many things wrong with every video I've watched. from not attacking fire correctly, to poor ppe. I would be embarrassed to publicize these if it was my department.
nice trucks though 👍
+Dylan Hawkins Chemistry is fun! Do they not teach this in FF1/2 or Fire Science courses or something??? Mg (s) + 2 H2O (l) → Mg(OH)2 (s) + H2 (g) Basically magnesium burns hot enough to split H20 into H2 and 0, is an exothermic (and often violent) reaction that only serves to add heat and fuel the fire. Magnesium also hates CO2: 2 Mg + CO2 → 2 MgO + C (s) (produces magnesium oxide and carbon, self oxidizing reaction) so CO2 extinguishers are out.
You've got dry chemical D or...and this is really high tech so I'm not sure every department could afford it....a bucket of sand.
Take away all available oxygen, even things that will decompose into an oxide from heat. Obviously here, you can drench it enough such that the production of heat by decomposition of H20 is overcome with water, cooling the magnesium enough to stop the reaction. A larger amount of magnesium though is a very, very bad day.
So when they talk about water and magnesium, then go and toss more water on I'm not sure what they expect to happen. That 'white light' is just keeping the fire going and producing heat. Those pops and flares and re-ignition could be avoided with another firefighter having a simple dry chemical D extinguisher to hit those spots once it's knocked. Or, sand.
(Foam still has plenty of H20 [no shit, you already know that lol] so no dice there either. Might be a little less violent but still just tossing fuel on.)
Interesting aside: Chlorine trifluoride will actually ignite sand, asbestos, test engineers, cement, and pretty much anything it touches. It's really uncommon and generally produced in small amounts as needed on-site. But if you ever hear those words, run the other way.
/chem rant
Exactly... So many things wrong in all of these videos. Lol but it's still good entertainment
Did the fire go out? Yes and at the end of the day that's all that matters. What's the poor PPE? Not having his waist straps done up?
grey man masking up downwind, and yes, not having that waist belt done up either. Continuously throwing straight water onto a magnesium fire, the list goes on.
Literally grey man is probably the only real FF is this comment feed.