The actress' is Frida Betrani -- she could walk by you on the street and you'd never recognize her as Lya. The make-up artists outdid themselves with her.
I was so pleased that they decided to turn Maybourne into something more than a military weasel. He was the perfect foil to Jack O'Neill, and, as time passed his character grew from the detestable individual he was in this episode, to a kind of lovable rogue. Though, given what he did to Teal'c, he was really lucky to have made it out alive!
Jack at the end: "I was thinking of what the man with the funny hair once said: 'The very young do not always do as they are told.'" This scene is perhaps the most badass-OP display in the history of action-sci-fi. Lya shows up by her own schedule and the entire environment is completely retuned to her way of being. She doesn't even have to fight, but just be herself and do the good she intends. Anything anyone else tries to do is simply irrelevant, and their souls are measured by her standard. Even the gods have not this power. Also, if you look closely, right before she backs through the gate, she gives them this blank-eyed stare of impaling truth: "I Am The Nox. This was the business of the elders amongst ourselves. Did you actually think you had a choice?" Well played, ma'am!
in another way, that phrase can also apply to how the people of Earth, having been fractured and divided for so many generations and how they are still struggling to get an advantage over one-another, squabbling over matters like boundaries, possessions, ways of thought or belief: how much the people of Earth themselves are like petty children. _The very young do not always do as they are told_ indeed.
You missed the point of the Nox entirely. The Nox are meant to show the harmony of nature of technology is possible, and pure pacifism can be achieved. Everything they do is in the pursuit of peace, and the fervently believe in their way, but accept the ways of others. "Your way is not the ONLY way.". The Tollan are also meant at first to show how advanced we could have been without the Dark Ages, but then with the Tollan being destroyed, they're saying what we went through was necessary to avoid that fate.
uncletaylorify He loved that they didn't need weapons to achieve that kind of "stick it up your arse" superiority. And they stuck it to a guy he particularly disliked. Win-win.
I think Jack knew that when you're not able to do the things Lya can do, you have to prepare for war to make peace. And there is nothing wrong with using a weapon as a tool if you treat it, and the things you could potentially point it at, with respect. Jack would never shoot an innocent person. The goal of everything he does is to cultivate a reality where weapons are no longer necessary. I mean, his son shot himself. With his gun. I think, at the very least, his relationship with weaponry is complicated. I also think Jack took a long, long time to feel safe enough to let down that guard of hypervigilance. His instinct is to protect anybody else from dying. And i think it took awhile for him to realize that the wee little Nox were actually much more capable of taking care of themselves than he was of taking care of them. His instinct isn't to shoot. His instinct is to protect. And that's the only way he knows how right now. He loves them because they're what he aspires to be.
What I love is around 3:05 you can see the Tollan all turn and look at Lya like in awe. Tbh they were probably skeptical about how advanced the Nox were judging by Lyas appearance and then she opens the wormhole you can see the awe in the Tollan when they realize how advanced the Nox are
They already knew, the device the tollans used to send the call for help was significantly advanced which meant that the Nox would not only have had to be at least equal in technological advancement to receive and understand the message but they also had to have the operating technology to do so. Theres obviously a split in the Nox where some of the population live in those advanced floating cities and another faction that choose to live without advanced technology in the wild. The second the gate opened though the Tollen knew that they were equals and did not need to fear that another race would try to take their technology.
They probably understood how powerful she was simple from her having the balls to walk in to a heavily armed alien stronghold the other side of the galaxy from her home without weapons or technology and offering the people they are trying to hold protection.
@@steve88luv I think they are semi ascended. They can probably teleport around their planet. Like going down to the planet for a walk is probably like walking out the front door.
Seeing some more interaction between the Tollan and Nox would've been interesting. Not to mention finding out a little more about the Nox and their technology.
@@worldkat1393 I mean, they would know where the planet is from the gate coordinates, but the Nox made it pretty clear they just wanted to be left alone lol
I love how quickly she opens and "dials" the gate address. Pretty sure there isn't another scene quite like it outside of the ancients using the gate in Atlantis.
there was one. When SG1 ended up back in Time with the Hippies. They jumped to for ahead, and a very old kassandra helped them find the way to their time. she used a dailing device that opened the gate just like that,without a vortex blowing around.
Aik Richter also t here was 1 scene on which this game personally to earth via gage to take O’Neil to his homeworld für help their also created a Gate connection without dialing just a move of his hand
To people asking how she turns the gate on: Remember the Ori also could do this. She has a very powerful mind, maybe even on point to ascending. She is so powerful, that the gate has no wash out, and turns on from the bottom up. So she stabilizes the gate..... coolllllll :)
People are also assuming she entered Stargate Command alone. The Nox home world also had another advanced race. Those flying insects with the sky city. The Nox used their powers to hide them. I wouldnt be surprised if there were a dozen of them in the Gate Room, just as body guards. Snatching guns out of the soldiers hands.
@@porpus99 i never thought about that. the guns being removed, could have been more Nox just taking them. Although i do here something going into the gate = weapons? hard to say on this one. I still have to lean towards she pulled them out of their hands. That sound was the weapons flying into the gate. This would be the only part of the show, i would even think more Nox are in the room. [if they pulled the guns, and tossed them into the gate.] still a toss up :)
2:55 O'Neill's inner monologue: you see this? this is just a perfect little microcosm of our dealings with the NID. this guy just saw them walking through walls and living people but by some leap of logic, that we mere mortals can never hope to understand, he thought it would work if it were fast metal pointy things...
well the " fast metal pointy things " were the thing that killed replicators, like advanced race (thor from asgard) said its so simple they couldn not think of it as solution and replicators could think they had defend against it
I would say more because you are too powerful to be fought so you do not require violence. We are not that fortunate to be so strong. But strength is truly determined in the ability to resist the urge to fight as well.
They arnt all powerful they just really good and hiding and controlling their surroundings, they are built for and maintaining peace not going to war, the ancients are all powerful
I find it interesting that we never found out a single detail about the Knox after this, nor was it ever hinted at or said how she was specifically able to do this. Nevertheless, it's just awesome and never gets old.
Well, they were one of the founding races of the Galactic alliance or something, were just as old as the Ancients, so my guess is that they kept living in the woods and cloaking when danger loomed.
The Asgard used instrumentalization to do things for them. The Nox and the Alterans WERE the OLDEST of the 4 great races (I think because we never got to meet the Furlings...). Because of that, they were so further ahead in the biological and technological ladder, they, at some point, didn't need it (not really) anymore. They could interface with technology outright, without little devices or computer doing it for them. That's why Lia could open the gate with her mind and not a device. The Asgard needed a device to do it for them. Kasandra needs it too in that episode the SG1 was thrown into the future. I think the Asgard was the youngest of 4 great races...and it shows. When the other 3 went silent, the Asgard lost their way trying to keep up. They went into the cloning spiral and it ended up killing them.
well according to the lore of Stargate ie the shows, novels the Alterans or ancients were the very first race and the only race to come into being in the entire universe several billion years ago. After awhile they got lonely and then started to seed the galaxy and then the rest of the universe and created all of the races intentionally and unintentionally. I would have liked to seen the Furlings and interactions with the Furlings
These people can build floating cities (and cloak them). And the ones he wants to detain can walk through walls and living people. And he thinks he is going to hold them against their will? Prevent the floating city people from giving them sanctuary? This Mayborne [sp?] needs to get a grip on reality.
It would be like an ant fighting with a t-rex to think humans could of done anything to stop them lol, but it's also why the Asgards in real life would never of given there technology to humans because we are not ready for that level of tech and we would likely blow ourselfs up if we was suddernly a lot more advanced without building it ourselfs and learning to respect the tech we build.
Even that they would never do, it would be like us giving nukes to the Roman and thinking they would use it right, wont end well, the truth is, humans respect tech when we learn it's pit falls over time, having it given to us would likely do us more harm then good, even worse on Star Gate is that the tech is being used in secrercy by goverments and not all the human races, the Asgard would never of given the tech to humans like that.
On the one hand, I would have loved that too. On the other, seeing how SG-1 had the pernicious tendency of eventually destroying all advanced civilisations so the Tau'ri could shine, I'm quite glad that they left them just the way they were: perfect. :-) And hey, there's always fanfiction! ;-)
Indeed, I wished they never destroyed the Tollans (whom I love just as much as the Nox) just to beef up the threat of Anubis. That destruction never set well with me and I never liked the Ori because it a god like enemy that requires deus ex machina like a galaxy wide brainwashing box to defeat. The Aschen should have been the next enemy after the Gao'uld. The Tollans and Nox would be the allies in the role like Asgardian and Tok'ra. Tollans and Nox are practically the philosophical opposite of the Aschen and likely evenly match. They are advanced but not so much that you need a magic box to fight. Later SG-1 seasons tend to be so much of a US power fantasy that they have to fight gods and win. In my personal fanfic, the Tollans survived but choose to isolate themselves further.
@@Bitchslapper316 While it is produce in Vancouver and have a lot of Canadians involve. The theme is distinctly American. It's hardly unusual, since a lot of Canadians work in US TV industries.
@@biocapsule7311 I'm not sure what point you are trying to make. The creators are Canadian, the executive producers are Canadian, the show runners that came after the creator Brad Wright were also Canadian like him. Most of the writers and cast are Canadian. It's filmed and produced in Vancouver Canada. It's a Canadian show...
What I want to know is how she overrode the gate's operating protocols and dialed out as quickly as she did without anybody in the control room seeing any signs of it. It's a feat we never see again anywhere in the SG universe - even among advanced races like the Ancients and the Asgard. I suppose she could've been dialing out the instant the gate shut down when she first came through and just had the dialing/activation cloaked, but still...
Tantalus010 actually we do see something similar to this if I am not mistaken there is an episode where Thor takes O’Neil to the Asgard home galaxy trough the gate Thor creates the wormwhole by waving his hand and something inside it glows no dialing needed. No kawush vortex
Their opinion would be the same because the vast majority of humanity still doesn't even know they exist. That's the thing that really bothered me about the way SG-1 ended: the program is still secret, so only 0.0000001% of humanity made any progress. The rest of us were all left in the dark. The Asgard are too advanced a race to be so naive as to think that they could give their technology to those few people and _not_ have it stolen or misused by the majority. I mean, hell, that was literally a recurring theme on the show.
@@Tantalus010 That's the point, the show need to follow the situation and political point at the times to make the show more "believable" that the government still hide about the existent of UFO. However, the recent Senate Hearing on UFO would have this show if it gets new series to reveal it to the world. I listened to one of the UFO expert who reveal some documents from Senate and said besides the "night vision" video show to the public, there are other videos which much clearer and apparently UFO is not Saucer Shape, but more Triangular, more to Pyramid Shape.
The Nox are pacifists. That is their way. Humanity after the conclusion of SG-1 is still about using force to fight against enemies, so the Nox probably wouldn't think that humanity has come very far at all.
I can watch this scene over and over, just picture myself in Daniels place Ooh the aliens love me! Most beautiful moment in sci fi history. Can only be Stargate God I love this series.
The Nox truly were the most underutilized faction in the entire SGverse. Or maybe they were just perfect as we saw them. Nothing more, nothing less. So far beyond humanity it's laughable.
On the one hand, I would have loved to see more of them. On the other, seeing how SG-1 had the pernicious tendency of eventually destroying all advanced civilisations so the Tau'ri could shine, I'm quite glad that they left them just the way they were: perfect. :-) And hey, there's always fanfiction! ;-)
What to be fair, it is the correct order if he intent to shoot someone that just went invisible. They may have "disappeared" but they only have one destination and the guns were all pointing at it. That's why the Nox took all the guns away.
Ancients- The most advanced race that ever existed,don't like to intervene Nox- Very advanced both technologically and spiritually,don't like to intervene Asgards- Very advanced technologically ,don't like to intervene Furlings- Maybe they are still here but don't like to intervene-I think they look cute though Humans- still young, like alot to intervene. If we are the fifth race, we will do more damage then Ory, Goa'uld and Wraith combine.
Asgard intervened all the time, when it came to protecting primitive worlds from tyrannical alien overlords and galaxy swarming mecha-bugs, but then they would then let those worlds they saved go ahead and develop at their own pace naturally. For the Nox it's not so much as not intervening as it is "we're so damn advanced and have such perfect stealth capabilities and hate conflict that we're just going to go do our own thing quietly in the corner for a while, call us when you're on our level and then we'll chat."
It was probably just time for them. Everything dies in time; and from this the Furlings, likely no longer supported by their 4 race buddies because most of them are dead or just sitting quietly in the corner enjoying their retirement (I'm pointing at your Nox dudes) or just being benevolent gods (I'm pointing at you Asgard dudes), probably met a fate similar to that of the Ancient colonists on P4X-639 (Damn I love that episode).
The Nox was some of the best storylines in the series. And that is saying a lot. Even rhough we would have liked to have seen more of them. I think leaving them alone was a better decision.
What makes this scene poignant is that it is very accurately depicting the stupidity, ignorance, and incompetents that often run governments. If indeed there are other races in existence, my question is whether they would show themselves at all, since this manner of attitude shows how barbaric and dangerous we could be to space visitors. Given a sufficiently advance technology at my disposal, I would not put myself in jeopardy to fools such as this, for the simple reason that I would not wish to have to use superior destructive force on beings lacking enlightenment. And if we bring our destructive ways into space, maybe the movie "The Day The Earth Stood Still", might become too prophetic.
I don't think world leaders would be dumb enough to react like this. I'm not saying governments are super smart or anything but they aren't dumb enough to try and kidnap/murder advanced aliens who are openly communicating with them. If they found a crashed ship with a dead alien on it? Sure they would cover it up and try to reverse engineer the tech but I can't see them trying to pull this.
If the Nox use some kind of pre-ascension cognitive power, then yes there is a difference. Also, first four races; Alterans, Nox, Furlings and Asgard. Humans are the Fifth.
I have to think that she's aware that Maybourne has read up on what the Tollan can do (and have already done while on base), so just gave him a stupid answer to an even stupider question.
wish they had showed the other 2 advanced technology races before ending this series. Nox, Tolan, and the Asgard, but there were 2 others, that were mentioned, but never seen.
@@LazlaTheFallen There was one episode that one Furling showed up. But it was not interested in communicating and wanted to go back home through the gateway. I have a feeling the Furling got smashed in a battle.
You know what I remember the Nox and Tollum had an fallout wonder what the story about that was also it's an shame I never got down to giving the tollum an theme song but I think I felt they had to little apperence but now I feel I should get a song saying they walk through stuff
I hated both of their characters, but props to the actors that played Maybourne and Kinsey. They were the perfect actors for the job, and even brought some visibility to the politicians and zealous military types that can occasionally* crop up. *And by occasionally... it's depressing to see how often this kind of parody can occur in real life.
Great writing.... 1. The Refugees disappeared....come on you knrw they have invisibility. 2. Obviously someone was calling in. 3. Mayborne asks how they got there after they had a convo that the refugees went through the wall. OR daniel brought them.
The colonel is like many I encountered in the Air Farce---arrogant, condescending, full of their own importance. I always wondered how they got so high a rank. In business I would not hire such a person.
Lol they haven't judged a single thing the entire episode. And if we were just a tiny iota more compassionate and not driven by greed, there would be no fear of pain and fear of the lost on Earth either.
Wait, so is it an incoming or outgoing wormhole? First it was off world activation. Then the gate is dialing? Chevron 6 and 7 engaged, kawooshed, and carter said someone dialed in?
Col. Maybourne: Dr. Jackson, what you're doing is a court martiallable offence. Also Col. Maybourne: orders the soldiers to fire at Dr. Jackson and the Tollan, which are unarmed civilians, act which is also a court martiallable offence.
the show had to strike a blance between advanced Earth allies so Earth was still the underdog. It's why the advanced cultures they met were either evil themselves, like the Aschen, they refused to help technology wise like the Tollan or the Nox, or they had problems of their own like the Asgard and Tokra. Torka were very limited #s and had no queen to produce more, and the Asgard were both dying from their cloning practices and fighting a war against the devastating replicators. A few other cultures out there did help Earth, like the ones who had the nanites in the children to learn and upload their memories (they probably helped the most cause of the Naquada generators they provided) or that reptilian race that lived with humans and Carter is in a race with. The Nox and Tollans needed to go from the story. Nox more so. They were uber advanced, one of the 4 races in the alliance with the Asgard and Ancients and they buried their star gate so travel to them wasn't possible. I guess the writers just choose to forget about them as the Asgard and Tokra became Earth's main alien allies (well besides the Free Jaffa army but they weren't people to turn to for tech needs)
On the one hand, I would have loved that too. On the other, seeing how SG-1 had the pernicious tendency of eventually destroying all advanced civilisations so the Tau'ri could shine, I'm quite glad that they left them just the way they were: perfect. :-) And hey, there's always fanfiction! ;-)
The very young do not always do as theyre told
Copyrighted sentence!
My favorite line ever said in the entire series, so few words said so much...
You can tell the exact moment Lya's Nox patience left the building.
Maybourne is so lucky she’s a pacifist.
@@bergmanoswell879 She cold make their organs just as easily disappear.
Lya is such a fine sexy minx.
They did a good job casting Laya(sp?) the Nox lady. She looks both very young and yet ageless at the same time.
The actress' is Frida Betrani -- she could walk by you on the street and you'd never recognize her as Lya. The make-up artists outdid themselves with her.
She was 33 back then too. And now she is 52.
That's LYA....and this was her moment.....wow....
Loved this Episode
There was also something about Laya which was, sexy.
Any episode/scene where Col. Maybourne gets humiliated is a great one!
interestingly enough,in the later episodes he kinda transformed from someone annoying to someone actually sympathetic
@@emreverim9984 only because senator Lindsey became the most annoying person
Just like Richard Woolsey, he evolved from being a "bad guy" to in later seasons being a "good guy"
@@emreverim9984 yea he became very likeable
Indeed
Nox representative be like: "I'm sorry, Mr. Mayborn, but this is an internal affair between the Nox and the Tollan. Terra _may not_ interfere."
I was so pleased that they decided to turn Maybourne into something more than a military weasel. He was the perfect foil to Jack O'Neill, and, as time passed his character grew from the detestable individual he was in this episode, to a kind of lovable rogue. Though, given what he did to Teal'c, he was really lucky to have made it out alive!
He did later help save Teal’c and at the same time got Q arrested though so it evens out.
Maybourne's character arc is one of the best ever written and Tom McBeath did a great job portraying him.
I loved how he played mayborne
Jack at the end: "I was thinking of what the man with the funny hair once said: 'The very young do not always do as they are told.'" This scene is perhaps the most badass-OP display in the history of action-sci-fi. Lya shows up by her own schedule and the entire environment is completely retuned to her way of being. She doesn't even have to fight, but just be herself and do the good she intends. Anything anyone else tries to do is simply irrelevant, and their souls are measured by her standard. Even the gods have not this power.
Also, if you look closely, right before she backs through the gate, she gives them this blank-eyed stare of impaling truth: "I Am The Nox. This was the business of the elders amongst ourselves. Did you actually think you had a choice?" Well played, ma'am!
The Nox are masters of illusion
in another way, that phrase can also apply to how the people of Earth, having been fractured and divided for so many generations and how they are still struggling to get an advantage over one-another, squabbling over matters like boundaries, possessions, ways of thought or belief: how much the people of Earth themselves are like petty children.
_The very young do not always do as they are told_ indeed.
You missed the point of the Nox entirely. The Nox are meant to show the harmony of nature of technology is possible, and pure pacifism can be achieved. Everything they do is in the pursuit of peace, and the fervently believe in their way, but accept the ways of others. "Your way is not the ONLY way.".
The Tollan are also meant at first to show how advanced we could have been without the Dark Ages, but then with the Tollan being destroyed, they're saying what we went through was necessary to avoid that fate.
It was actually Daniel that said that not Jac. then Jack chimed in with what the funny haired little man had said
she opened the star gate on her own
Cracked me up how Jack was always so gung-ho and loved his weapons but he LOVED the Nox who were pacifist lol
uncletaylorify He loved that they didn't need weapons to achieve that kind of "stick it up your arse" superiority. And they stuck it to a guy he particularly disliked. Win-win.
The Nox are "uncomplicated", in a way like Jack himself. It was also Jack's simple decency and honor that endeared him to the Asgard.
I think Jack knew that when you're not able to do the things Lya can do, you have to prepare for war to make peace. And there is nothing wrong with using a weapon as a tool if you treat it, and the things you could potentially point it at, with respect. Jack would never shoot an innocent person. The goal of everything he does is to cultivate a reality where weapons are no longer necessary. I mean, his son shot himself. With his gun. I think, at the very least, his relationship with weaponry is complicated.
I also think Jack took a long, long time to feel safe enough to let down that guard of hypervigilance. His instinct is to protect anybody else from dying. And i think it took awhile for him to realize that the wee little Nox were actually much more capable of taking care of themselves than he was of taking care of them.
His instinct isn't to shoot. His instinct is to protect. And that's the only way he knows how right now. He loves them because they're what he aspires to be.
They were tough pacifists
@@Mxyzptlksac
They're pacifists who can take away your Guns.
Of course americans gonna fear them. xD
What I love is around 3:05 you can see the Tollan all turn and look at Lya like in awe. Tbh they were probably skeptical about how advanced the Nox were judging by Lyas appearance and then she opens the wormhole you can see the awe in the Tollan when they realize how advanced the Nox are
They already knew, the device the tollans used to send the call for help was significantly advanced which meant that the Nox would not only have had to be at least equal in technological advancement to receive and understand the message but they also had to have the operating technology to do so. Theres obviously a split in the Nox where some of the population live in those advanced floating cities and another faction that choose to live without advanced technology in the wild. The second the gate opened though the Tollen knew that they were equals and did not need to fear that another race would try to take their technology.
They probably understood how powerful she was simple from her having the balls to walk in to a heavily armed alien stronghold the other side of the galaxy from her home without weapons or technology and offering the people they are trying to hold protection.
@@steve88luv I think they are semi ascended. They can probably teleport around their planet. Like going down to the planet for a walk is probably like walking out the front door.
The Tollan were the inferior ones in this instance.
Seeing some more interaction between the Tollan and Nox would've been interesting. Not to mention finding out a little more about the Nox and their technology.
Learning who or what the Furlings are would be swell too XD
Yeh they kind of just dumped the Nox, didn't they?
@@janeadelaidelennox7193 Nox burried their gate, admitantly maybe we could of asked the Asgard for directions.
@@worldkat1393 I mean, they would know where the planet is from the gate coordinates, but the Nox made it pretty clear they just wanted to be left alone lol
@@worldkat1393 they hadn't mer the Asgards yet
I love how quickly she opens and "dials" the gate address. Pretty sure there isn't another scene quite like it outside of the ancients using the gate in Atlantis.
there was one. When SG1 ended up back in Time with the Hippies. They jumped to for ahead, and a very old kassandra helped them find the way to their time. she used a dailing device that opened the gate just like that,without a vortex blowing around.
Aik Richter also t here was 1 scene on which this game personally to earth via gage to take O’Neil to his homeworld für help their also created a Gate connection without dialing just a move of his hand
The was a scene where Thor does this as well.
Didn’t Apophis do the same thing in COTGs?
The Asgard are able to do this as well, without the dramatic flair.
To people asking how she turns the gate on: Remember the Ori also could do this. She has a very powerful mind, maybe even on point to ascending. She is so powerful, that the gate has no wash out, and turns on from the bottom up. So she stabilizes the gate..... coolllllll :)
This chick can control spacetime at the subatomic level.
People are also assuming she entered Stargate Command alone. The Nox home world also had another advanced race. Those flying insects with the sky city. The Nox used their powers to hide them. I wouldnt be surprised if there were a dozen of them in the Gate Room, just as body guards. Snatching guns out of the soldiers hands.
@@porpus99 i never thought about that. the guns being removed, could have been more Nox just taking them. Although i do here something going into the gate = weapons? hard to say on this one. I still have to lean towards she pulled them out of their hands. That sound was the weapons flying into the gate. This would be the only part of the show, i would even think more Nox are in the room. [if they pulled the guns, and tossed them into the gate.] still a toss up :)
@Amirus they don't believe in such trinkets. they are masters of the mind :)
@@porpus99 Are you trolling these people here or do you honestly believe the flying insect built the city? It was the Nox!
Still the most badass instance of opening a stargate that I ever saw across all series.
One of my fav episodes ...
Mayborne plays the type of people in power currently.
That one Tollan taking a cat with him just cracks me up!
Catnappers in the Gate-Room!
i wonder if that was a data reference.
"Take one more step and I'll be forced to have them open fire."
"Okay."
O'Neil "Seriously?" face after that say it all.
@@PaiSAMSEN *Tollan disappears*
"at what sir?"
*guns disappear*
"...with what sir?"
One of SG-1's finest moments.
100%
Especially when Lyaa said " your race has learned Nothing "
Legendary
"God i love those people"
best line ever
Historic words.....
Hammond, "They'll be hell to pay when he gets back to Washington."
O'Neil, "We can have a car wash. Cookie sale?"
I just love how happy Daniel is when he sees Lya again. Just one or two seconds, but Michael Shanks looks genuinely happy.
If the lady who can open a Stargate by will alone stays to come, you come. This is not someone you want on your bad side.
2:55 O'Neill's inner monologue:
you see this? this is just a perfect little microcosm of our dealings with the NID. this guy just saw them walking through walls and living people but by some leap of logic, that we mere mortals can never hope to understand, he thought it would work if it were fast metal pointy things...
well the " fast metal pointy things " were the thing that killed replicators, like advanced race (thor from asgard) said its so simple they couldn not think of it as solution and replicators could think they had defend against it
See? All you need to make non-violence a viable policy is to be all-powerful.
@James Miller well said.
@James Miller That kinda implies you need power in the first place in order to be great.
@@TheAnimeRick That's the point, dingaling.
I would say more because you are too powerful to be fought so you do not require violence. We are not that fortunate to be so strong. But strength is truly determined in the ability to resist the urge to fight as well.
They arnt all powerful they just really good and hiding and controlling their surroundings, they are built for and maintaining peace not going to war, the ancients are all powerful
They call themselves The Nox :) The actor who play Quark in Star Trek DS9 play Anteaus one of The Nox :)
I love Carter's look of amusement when ONeil smiles at Lya.
i like the way the "good ones" can just screw with the gate controls as the please
I find it interesting that we never found out a single detail about the Knox after this, nor was it ever hinted at or said how she was specifically able to do this. Nevertheless, it's just awesome and never gets old.
Well, they were one of the founding races of the Galactic alliance or something, were just as old as the Ancients, so my guess is that they kept living in the woods and cloaking when danger loomed.
The Asgard could do it too., but so could the Milky Way/Ida Galaxy Replicators after they stole the methods from the Asgard.
The Asgard used instrumentalization to do things for them. The Nox and the Alterans WERE the OLDEST of the 4 great races (I think because we never got to meet the Furlings...). Because of that, they were so further ahead in the biological and technological ladder, they, at some point, didn't need it (not really) anymore. They could interface with technology outright, without little devices or computer doing it for them. That's why Lia could open the gate with her mind and not a device. The Asgard needed a device to do it for them. Kasandra needs it too in that episode the SG1 was thrown into the future. I think the Asgard was the youngest of 4 great races...and it shows. When the other 3 went silent, the Asgard lost their way trying to keep up. They went into the cloning spiral and it ended up killing them.
well according to the lore of Stargate ie the shows, novels the Alterans or ancients were the very first race and the only race to come into being in the entire universe several billion years ago. After awhile they got lonely and then started to seed the galaxy and then the rest of the universe and created all of the races intentionally and unintentionally. I would have liked to seen the Furlings and interactions with the Furlings
"GOD,I LOVE THOSE PEOPLE!!" and "Michael" sure acts the part of a "Lya groupie"!
These people can build floating cities (and cloak them). And the ones he wants to detain can walk through walls and living people. And he thinks he is going to hold them against their will? Prevent the floating city people from giving them sanctuary? This Mayborne [sp?] needs to get a grip on reality.
he gives the show chaos and drama... ;)
Yeah, he was the show's "guy you love to hate." Written to be evil, but also to be on the good guys' side so they can't just kill him.
It would be like an ant fighting with a t-rex to think humans could of done anything to stop them lol, but it's also why the Asgards in real life would never of given there technology to humans because we are not ready for that level of tech and we would likely blow ourselfs up if we was suddernly a lot more advanced without building it ourselfs and learning to respect the tech we build.
That is exactly why the Asgard didn't give the Tau'ri their fleet but instead upgraded one ship and gave them knowledge to work from.
Even that they would never do, it would be like us giving nukes to the Roman and thinking they would use it right, wont end well, the truth is, humans respect tech when we learn it's pit falls over time, having it given to us would likely do us more harm then good, even worse on Star Gate is that the tech is being used in secrercy by goverments and not all the human races, the Asgard would never of given the tech to humans like that.
I wish we saw more of the nox in later episodes. I feel like they would be operating some kind of underground railroad for people escaping the ori
On the one hand, I would have loved that too. On the other, seeing how SG-1 had the pernicious tendency of eventually destroying all advanced civilisations so the Tau'ri could shine, I'm quite glad that they left them just the way they were: perfect. :-)
And hey, there's always fanfiction! ;-)
Indeed, I wished they never destroyed the Tollans (whom I love just as much as the Nox) just to beef up the threat of Anubis. That destruction never set well with me and I never liked the Ori because it a god like enemy that requires deus ex machina like a galaxy wide brainwashing box to defeat. The Aschen should have been the next enemy after the Gao'uld. The Tollans and Nox would be the allies in the role like Asgardian and Tok'ra. Tollans and Nox are practically the philosophical opposite of the Aschen and likely evenly match. They are advanced but not so much that you need a magic box to fight. Later SG-1 seasons tend to be so much of a US power fantasy that they have to fight gods and win. In my personal fanfic, the Tollans survived but choose to isolate themselves further.
@@biocapsule7311 It's a Canadian show though.
@@Bitchslapper316 While it is produce in Vancouver and have a lot of Canadians involve. The theme is distinctly American. It's hardly unusual, since a lot of Canadians work in US TV industries.
@@biocapsule7311 I'm not sure what point you are trying to make. The creators are Canadian, the executive producers are Canadian, the show runners that came after the creator Brad Wright were also Canadian like him. Most of the writers and cast are Canadian. It's filmed and produced in Vancouver Canada.
It's a Canadian show...
I love the Nox, they are so kool, always so calm and they are so advanced.
What I want to know is how she overrode the gate's operating protocols and dialed out as quickly as she did without anybody in the control room seeing any signs of it. It's a feat we never see again anywhere in the SG universe - even among advanced races like the Ancients and the Asgard. I suppose she could've been dialing out the instant the gate shut down when she first came through and just had the dialing/activation cloaked, but still...
Tantalus010 actually we do see something similar to this if I am not mistaken there is an episode where Thor takes O’Neil to the Asgard home galaxy trough the gate Thor creates the wormwhole by waving his hand and something inside it glows no dialing needed. No kawush vortex
Tantalus010 I think that their "magic power" have the ability to open the gate without the kawosh
1969 remote control for the gate
SilentHotdog28
They could teach a thing or to about compassion and temperment
This, Time Loop and A Hundred Days are my all time favorite episodes. (Admittedly I've seen only seasons 1-4 or so).
I really wish we could see what the nox think of humanity after sg-1 concluded, seeing how far humanity came.
Their opinion would be the same because the vast majority of humanity still doesn't even know they exist. That's the thing that really bothered me about the way SG-1 ended: the program is still secret, so only 0.0000001% of humanity made any progress. The rest of us were all left in the dark. The Asgard are too advanced a race to be so naive as to think that they could give their technology to those few people and _not_ have it stolen or misused by the majority. I mean, hell, that was literally a recurring theme on the show.
Wouldn't change, humanity are given technology by greater powers in a US power fantasy, none of it was earn by actual progress.
@@Tantalus010 That's the point, the show need to follow the situation and political point at the times to make the show more "believable" that the government still hide about the existent of UFO.
However, the recent Senate Hearing on UFO would have this show if it gets new series to reveal it to the world.
I listened to one of the UFO expert who reveal some documents from Senate and said besides the "night vision" video show to the public, there are other videos which much clearer and apparently UFO is not Saucer Shape, but more Triangular, more to Pyramid Shape.
@@Tantalus010 They turned it into main stream tech. Especially the Trust.
The Nox are pacifists. That is their way. Humanity after the conclusion of SG-1 is still about using force to fight against enemies, so the Nox probably wouldn't think that humanity has come very far at all.
i remember the first time i watched this, i was like whose it going to be whose it going to be maybe the nox?
I FUCKING KNEW IT
I can watch this scene over and over, just picture myself in Daniels place Ooh the aliens love me! Most beautiful moment in sci fi history. Can only be Stargate God I love this series.
The Nox truly were the most underutilized faction in the entire SGverse. Or maybe they were just perfect as we saw them. Nothing more, nothing less. So far beyond humanity it's laughable.
On the one hand, I would have loved to see more of them. On the other, seeing how SG-1 had the pernicious tendency of eventually destroying all advanced civilisations so the Tau'ri could shine, I'm quite glad that they left them just the way they were: perfect. :-)
And hey, there's always fanfiction! ;-)
I think that's what they were hinting at.
[Tollans disappear] Maybourne: "FIRE! _FIIIREEE!!!"_
At what? [soldiers' guns disappear] ...And for that matter, _with_ what?
What to be fair, it is the correct order if he intent to shoot someone that just went invisible. They may have "disappeared" but they only have one destination and the guns were all pointing at it. That's why the Nox took all the guns away.
3:32 "you don't want to fuck with those people" more like
Fortunately they're pacifists, otherwise, yeah, they'd wreck ALL your shit!
God I love those people! and miss SG1
I love that they had the detail of the splash sounds, indicating that the vanished guns were also sent through the gate.
The Nox are my favorite race SG1 has encountered.
I hated Mayborn’s character at the beginning but he turned out to be a wonderful character in the end
Ancients- The most advanced race that ever existed,don't like to intervene
Nox- Very advanced both technologically and spiritually,don't like to intervene
Asgards- Very advanced technologically ,don't like to intervene
Furlings- Maybe they are still here but don't like to intervene-I think they look cute though
Humans- still young, like alot to intervene.
If we are the fifth race, we will do more damage then Ory, Goa'uld and Wraith combine.
Asgard intervened all the time, when it came to protecting primitive worlds from tyrannical alien overlords and galaxy swarming mecha-bugs, but then they would then let those worlds they saved go ahead and develop at their own pace naturally.
For the Nox it's not so much as not intervening as it is "we're so damn advanced and have such perfect stealth capabilities and hate conflict that we're just going to go do our own thing quietly in the corner for a while, call us when you're on our level and then we'll chat."
They don't like but they do intervene,only when they really need to.
I've liked your comment because it's true
furlings are never seen in the show there was only a vague gate thingie that was made by them for the rest nothing
Lmao he mad
It was probably just time for them. Everything dies in time; and from this the Furlings, likely no longer supported by their 4 race buddies because most of them are dead or just sitting quietly in the corner enjoying their retirement (I'm pointing at your Nox dudes) or just being benevolent gods (I'm pointing at you Asgard dudes), probably met a fate similar to that of the Ancient colonists on P4X-639 (Damn I love that episode).
One of my favorite episodes
Early Stargate SG1 was awesome.
One of the best episodes in the franchise.
1:53 it's been along since I have inspired that kind of Hello from a woman. Kind that melts you and has feel you completely awesome.
The ultimate example of advanced technology for mankind to aspire to.
True but the smarter we become the more dangerous we become. Theirs always going to be those certain people that would use this technology for war
The Nox are like the Ascended Ancients, they just want to be left alone.
2:29 Now Jigsaw gonna kill the Nox lol
How else did you think he always got away?
HAHAHAHA yes!
I knew id seen his face b4
This is one of my favourite scenes..
Lya demostrando todo su poder...
Man I really miss this show!!!! Wish there were new episodes.
Have you watched Dark Matter? That’s about as close as anything new has gotten, and well, if you haven’t… you will see why.
@@FlashGamer521 , Dark Matter, I will check it out. Thanks
The Nox was some of the best storylines in the series. And that is saying a lot. Even rhough we would have liked to have seen more of them. I think leaving them alone was a better decision.
YOU JUST GOTTA LOVE THOSE NOX!!
one of the best moments of SG1, you have learned,
A Nox told you that once Im sure 😏
Aaahhh... good old times :)
I miss the Noxs.
I love how you can see that not one of the soldiers have their finger on the trigger. Even with orders to fire they weren't gonna shoot.
Like Picard said in Star Trek TV episode "First Contact". To give advanced technology to another race can be harmful and destructive.
What makes this scene poignant is that it is very accurately depicting the stupidity, ignorance, and incompetents that often run governments. If indeed there are other races in existence, my question is whether they would show themselves at all, since this manner of attitude shows how barbaric and dangerous we could be to space visitors. Given a sufficiently advance technology at my disposal, I would not put myself in jeopardy to fools such as this, for the simple reason that I would not wish to have to use superior destructive force on beings lacking enlightenment. And if we bring our destructive ways into space, maybe the movie "The Day The Earth Stood Still", might become too prophetic.
The Tollans had to find a new home world, precisely because of giving technology to a more primitive race.
I don't think world leaders would be dumb enough to react like this. I'm not saying governments are super smart or anything but they aren't dumb enough to try and kidnap/murder advanced aliens who are openly communicating with them.
If they found a crashed ship with a dead alien on it? Sure they would cover it up and try to reverse engineer the tech but I can't see them trying to pull this.
I can't make up mind which was cuter, Lya saying "Hello" or Fran!
The Nox so awesome they have zero fears to give.
Ah Mayborn so full of anger :)
He had his moments.
So the nox lady was using her mind to open the stargate.
Yeah, that or technology. The Nox are one of the first 5 races, so are up there with the Ancients in terms of tech and knowledge.
Sunfrancks well at this point is there really any difference?
If the Nox use some kind of pre-ascension cognitive power, then yes there is a difference.
Also, first four races; Alterans, Nox, Furlings and Asgard. Humans are the Fifth.
Yeah. Maybe. Or she can control subatomic particles.
Either way. Pretty dope
The nox yea.... Wow... Ugh I want Stargate back..
FIYER FIYER!!!
Imagine if a millitary personal actually said "like poof sir".
I don't blame her, think about how disconcerting it would be to have a bunch of people just walk right through you as if you weren't even there
I think she was trolling him, because he was so obtuse and obnoxious. ;-)
I have to think that she's aware that Maybourne has read up on what the Tollan can do (and have already done while on base), so just gave him a stupid answer to an even stupider question.
This video has perfect timing
I hope they took the cost of all the missing weapons out of Mayborn's pay.
wish they had showed the other 2 advanced technology races before ending this series. Nox, Tolan, and the Asgard, but there were 2 others, that were mentioned, but never seen.
its Nox, Ancients, Asgard.. and Furlings were never shown but kind of fever dream like version of them
@@LazlaTheFallen There was one episode that one Furling showed up. But it was not interested in communicating and wanted to go back home through the gateway.
I have a feeling the Furling got smashed in a battle.
I love The Nox! Lya is beautiful ❤️
You know what I remember the Nox and Tollum had an fallout wonder what the story about that was also it's an shame I never got down to giving the tollum an theme song but I think I felt they had to little apperence but now I feel I should get a song saying they walk through stuff
I hated both of their characters, but props to the actors that played Maybourne and Kinsey. They were the perfect actors for the job, and even brought some visibility to the politicians and zealous military types that can occasionally* crop up. *And by occasionally... it's depressing to see how often this kind of parody can occur in real life.
She didn't even need to take their guns there; she was just making a point.
Love u guys seen stargate a lot love from oisins mummy .
her face in the end, laya is so beautiful
O neil favourite line , god i love those people
nox must be like Awww primitive humans
whats jigsaw doing in the stargate
Playing a game
make your choice
Live or die...
Great writing....
1. The Refugees disappeared....come on you knrw they have invisibility.
2. Obviously someone was calling in.
3. Mayborne asks how they got there after they had a convo that the refugees went through the wall. OR daniel brought them.
The colonel is like many I encountered in the Air Farce---arrogant, condescending, full of their own importance. I always wondered how they got so high a rank. In business I would not hire such a person.
God I love those people.
The Tollan didn't judge or question the Nox because they received and translated the message.
I Love those People :)
What I don't like about the Nox is there judgement.
They judge others while the Nox don't know hunger, fear of death, fear of pain and fear of lost.
Lol they haven't judged a single thing the entire episode. And if we were just a tiny iota more compassionate and not driven by greed, there would be no fear of pain and fear of the lost on Earth either.
@@Zamolxes77 .....ok that still can't make us pacifists in the face of evil invading aliens
@@bluescluessuperagent I never claimed that.
I love those people too
Blows my mind how she opened the stargate
LOVE (LYA of the Nox) wins every time!!
Truth. :-)
It took me ages to realize the old guy was the same actor who played gigsaw
Wait, so is it an incoming or outgoing wormhole? First it was off world activation. Then the gate is dialing? Chevron 6 and 7 engaged, kawooshed, and carter said someone dialed in?
Col. Maybourne: Dr. Jackson, what you're doing is a court martiallable offence.
Also Col. Maybourne: orders the soldiers to fire at Dr. Jackson and the Tollan, which are unarmed civilians, act which is also a court martiallable offence.
SG1_ SENHOR DAS ESTRELAS!!!!!
UGHHH this show needed more Nox!!
the show had to strike a blance between advanced Earth allies so Earth was still the underdog. It's why the advanced cultures they met were either evil themselves, like the Aschen, they refused to help technology wise like the Tollan or the Nox, or they had problems of their own like the Asgard and Tokra. Torka were very limited #s and had no queen to produce more, and the Asgard were both dying from their cloning practices and fighting a war against the devastating replicators.
A few other cultures out there did help Earth, like the ones who had the nanites in the children to learn and upload their memories (they probably helped the most cause of the Naquada generators they provided) or that reptilian race that lived with humans and Carter is in a race with.
The Nox and Tollans needed to go from the story. Nox more so. They were uber advanced, one of the 4 races in the alliance with the Asgard and Ancients and they buried their star gate so travel to them wasn't possible.
I guess the writers just choose to forget about them as the Asgard and Tokra became Earth's main alien allies (well besides the Free Jaffa army but they weren't people to turn to for tech needs)
On the one hand, I would have loved that too. On the other, seeing how SG-1 had the pernicious tendency of eventually destroying all advanced civilisations so the Tau'ri could shine, I'm quite glad that they left them just the way they were: perfect. :-)
And hey, there's always fanfiction! ;-)
The worst guards. He said fire and not want shot....
The Nox, a fantastical, peaceful species.
Anyone else wish we had learned more about the Nocks?
Tier 5 Race is so awesome
Since the first episode of SG1 is considered 2 episodes with runtime (Children of the Gods), this is not episode 16 but from episode 17 (Enigma).
Love the hair.