The older I am the more I appreciate Hammond. While he was always supportive of the team, he also had a strong no-nonsense attitude. His "So far" and "What plan?" responses show that he just won't brush away security concerns and that he won't accept anything for explanation. In media, strict and competent leaders are usually the antagonists or at least obstacles for the heroes to overcome. Hammond managed to be both strict and competent but also another hero of the show.
He's seen enough shit to be very cautious about things. Case in point, the incident with the note from 2010. O'Neill: "...Wasn't -970 on our upcoming mission list?" Hammond: "Not anymore it's not, I'm not taking any chances. I want P4C-970 removed from the dialing computer immediately!"
Dude, that guy getting to say "Chevron 8 is locked" was actually the luckiest guy ever, he got to speak a line that was a huge milestone in the Stargate series. So the fact they gave it to one of the minor actors, is pretty crazy.
Remember on Atlantis when Rodney tried saying that chevron 1 was encoded and everyone looked at him like he was stupid? That leads me to believe that the line in this wasn't such a huge milestone.
I think this episode "The 5th Race" was voted as the finest by the fans. I agree. I still get a lump in my throat when the Asgard tell O'Neal that "you've already taking the first steps to becoming the 5th Race" . It's a pivotal moment and we have to wait to the very final episode in season 10 when Thor confirms to Sam that "you are the 5th race". How's that for a plot elongevity.
@@snakedoctor6969totally. The Asgard saw the potential in Earth. Another episode, Red Sky, O’Neill mentions the Tolan are gone the Asgard say that’s sad, but when O’Neill says Earth may be lost the Asgard say “very” sad.
I really appreciate that Daniel is the one who speaks up for Jack here and when Daniel is ready to ascend the person who he gets to speak up for him is Jack.
Ah, the episode that at long last confirmed the Goa'uld hadn't built the Gates. We'd spent a season and a half not knowing who built it, but assuming they had. Meeting the Asgard in person, learning about the Alliance of the Four Great Races in more detail after ToT, revealing the 8th chevron, the Ancients being fully realized, this was such a great episode.
A huge thing though is the sarcophagus. Ancients didn't build them because it was never shown by Ancients and had no ancient writing on it. Goauld stole tech from the ones they took over. We never met the race that built the sarcophagus nor hand devices and others. The rings were retrofitted to be ancient but Ancients really never used rings either. Atlantis had transporter elevators. No rings. Only rings were in the Antarctica episode when fighting anubis that made it ancient. They shouldn't have done that.
@@fr9714in some later episodes its revealed that the sarcophagus tech was also reverse engineered ancient tech from some magic healing box that would make anyone using it go crazy😂
@@fr9714 Atlantis's teleportation elevators could simply be a different form of the rings. The rings' design is very similar to the stargates themselves as well. Based on this, I'd say it's quite likely they did build the rings. Also, considering the fact that they're constantly hidden away, they could be basically everywhere, SG1 just can't find them
@@ninjadragongamer6861 I think the transport elevators were not rings which were very distinct in their construction and feel and mode of operation. These were simply Lantean transporters. The rings imo could have been from a race never mentioned ever. And that makes it more appealing than making it retrofit to ancients doing everything in the galaxy
Was thinking the exact same thing. He even had the foresight to make it red and reserved some space on the screen! Maybe some sort of user acceptance test? Probably double checked with quality assurance to cover all eventualities. After having to design this weird character set of glyphs, the extra spot just was a small thing.
Well, the designer was probably brought onboard before the very first Abydos dial. Since there are 9 chevrons on the gate, he/she probably assumed that all would be used and designed the display accordingly. They didn't really know what to dial (at least, officially) until Daniel came onboard.
He could have made it so that it just put a new box so many units below the previous for each new chevron. It's how in some UI's you can end up with a ton of menu option running below the bottom of the screen if something wierd put a bunch of extra ones there.
The fact that Jack's subconscious brain built a zpm from ancient knowledge is just insane. Asgard saw that, realized humans are evolution of Ancients and were mind blown. Plus the fact Jack had the ancient gene allowing access to ancient tech means the Ancients were back from asgard pov and they wanted to be friends. Because they knew humans would become the Ancients soon
It's nowhere near a ZPM. When Atlantis finally got a ZPM, they dialed Earth regularly. This device was only a single-use and it drew its power from a goa'uld staff weapon. It would have been cool to have a handful of these devices at hand for emergencies... It was really smart that they said in this episode that the device burned out and couldn't be studied for reverse engineering and incredibly stupid for them to use it in a later episode once and never again.
This was the moment of the revelation of a much bigger Stargate universe. I can only hope we get more networks in future spinoffs as Ancients could have colonised the whole Local Group.
@@allexstahlman4003 Watch Star Trek Discovery, the Star Wars sequel trilogy, and Terminator Dark Fate. That's the kind of thing people mean when they say woke.
I absolutely love that encoding/locking sound the gate makes. Hell, I love the entire sequence. Always felt like an important event when the gate was activated, either incoming or outgoing.
And the sound of a chevron getting encoded! I also loved how they said "encoded" for each symbol except for the last one where they said "locked". They explain this way later in SG1, around season 7 or 8. So much attention to detail!
I always really enjoyed the episodes where we see higher intelligent beings building amazing stuff with our basic materials. Jack making this power source and the other dude who made that single use stargate. Like you can literally make a stargate out of human materials, if you know how.
For a man who wasn't big on sifi shows. He's set as on of the best known sifi actors. Got promoted to a general to keep him in the show. That's how much fans loved him.
I had a few people talking about how the SGC's computer shouldn't have been able to do the 8 address gate, yet people seems to forget that Jack had been messing with the computer code when he imputed the gate addresses that wasn't known to the Goa'uld so it's highly likely that he also added tot eh SGC computer code the ability to do a 8 point intergalactic dial of the normal 7 point intragalactic that's normally used
+Nova Light That plus it's a T.V. show. But if they needed to they could write an explanation that could be given by Carter. Amanada Tapping has always said she studied enough to understand the science or potential science of what strange thing was scripted.So enjoy
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That's what Daniel says : the library gave Jack the knowledge to seek help ! Anyway there's no point of discussing that : the gate started dialing by itself so yes, Jack put a remote dialing routine. He also added the missing Milky Way gates so why would it be so strange for him to add the ability to dial a 8-chevron adress just once ?
It was also said a number of episodes and I think a season later, that the dialing program Jack made here to dial 8 Chevron address was removed by Carter after this and replaced with the OLD standard 7 Chevron dialer, although they KEPT the Jack 8 Chevron dialer. I do not recall which episode this is stated, but I do recall it was said by Carter that they removed this dualer to study before integrating the changes and ability to dial 8. Obviously they added the 8 dialer back BY season 8 as that was the season they dialed Atlantis from SGC using a ZPM hooked into the power grid at SGC to power the gate for dialing a 8 Chevron address. Then of course you got SGU which required a WHOLE PLANET of Naquadria to dial the 9 Chevron address for Destiny on the other side of the universe. Basically a 9 Chevron address is like using the MAC address of a network device and dialing to that directly... no matter where you are, that address is unique so no matter WHERE it is in the universe, moving or not, it knows where to connect to, but since destiny was SO far, it required a planet power source. I wonder if they could dial desting with a 7 chevron address if destiny was in the MILKY WAY galaxy?? I wonder if EVERY stargate had its own unique 9 chevron address
@@Crosis2814 most likely yes, each gate has a 9 chevron and potentially even 10 and beyond chevron address, as stated, the extra chevrons are just distance modifiers, so in theory, the further something is away, the more chevrons and gate power needed.
Emmerich created the first movie though (1994). Which by far I still consider far better than the continuing series. Through usage of practical effects and little computer imaginery, they achieved far better results in how it looks and how it works.
@@CZghost you can't really compare a Hollywood movie and a series when it comes to effects or other things. The budgets make a huge difference. However I find what Stargate did lore-wise a lot better than what the movie started
+Dread Master Raptus I was experimenting with my computers video programs when I originally uploaded this video so sorry if your upset with it not being fully there
And he never returned No he never returned And his fate is still unlearned. He will ride forever Through a Stargate's wormhole He's the man who never returned.
Isn't this a mix of the old human made interface and the ancient modification jack added? So Jacks modification would also add this necessary space for another chevron.
Nova Light Yeah but he made it out of terrestrial materials (mostly) and they succeeded in getting a second charge out of it in a future episode. Shouldn’t they have built more of them? Might not have been enough to power the ancient weapons platform but it could dial Atlantis.
if only there was a channel out there, where we could watch these old sci-fi shows, how nice that would be. they could call it the sci-fy channel even to attract people's attention to it. lol
You know, I always wondered why they couldn't dial the gate 'by chance' in the original movie because they said "we've never gotten this far" before while dialing the gate the first time Daniel Jackson is there. But now that I think of it, it's probably because before Daniel figured out it was 7 symbols, they may have been dialing all 9 because they figured there must be nine for a reason, and no random address would have worked in that case.
Having watched almost all of Stargate content, one thing just occurred to me. In the original movie, they know 6 symbols thanks to the cartouche. The gate has 36 symbols I think. If you minus the 6 known and uses symbols, they would have had 30 symbols to try as number 7, so honestly it shouldn't have been hard to open as long as they always used the 1st 6 and then just try every other symbol 1 by 1 as chevron 7. Complete random dialling of course was needle in haystack.
Retconned to hell, the first canonically dialed stargate in the series was on some broken down world where the explorer got tripped for 50 years because of the stargate dialing device being destroyed. The stargate from the movie was also stated to be at the edge of the known universe many galaxies away. The problem of their not being that many symbols on it is just a problem it inherited from a movie where the gate was only really supposed to go to one destination.
In order to dial 9 chevrons, you still have to dial 7 first. So before they reached the 8th and 9th chevrons, the gate would have simply opened once they used the right symbol.
+Leon Kernan i have come to the conclusion that most of the reasoning behind how the stargate works is just made up on the fly to suit that current episode
atleast once they establish a pseudo rule they kind of stick to it. 8 chevrons for intergalactic 9 for mobile pas through a solar falre for time travel.
Shanee Bahera I think it has to do with the buildup of energy needed. This was the first time they dialed 8 chevrons so their infrastructure couldn’t send all of it to the gate at once. Whereas in later episodes (like when they use the ZPM to dial Atlantis) they are ready for it.
Well, it had nine from the start. But the nine chevrons idea came from Emmerich after all. In the series they more or less said that an seven symbols address dials any valid gate in the local galaxy, eight symbols dials a stargate in another galaxy (which i'd like to point out was in 1994 movie how the seven symbols address appeared to work (Milky Way to Mayak)), and nine symbols are used to contact Destiny/Seed Ships/older models that use a different method to generate wormholes that are supposed to have a shorter range. That's the series version of the story. I wonder if Emmerich had any ideas for those though. When I was a kid, I watched Fifth Race and I was thinking that it would be a rather ineffectual way to dial another galaxy to use another symbol to designate a different area code. That'd mean, after all, that it could only dial 37 different galaxies. In the end I settled for "it uses a different way to calculate the distance between the the targeted gate and the point of origin."
@@tywinlannister8015 Yeah there are slip ups, but it could be less of an address and more of a code, as was the case with SGU, in the sense that a different style of Data goes across, eg Phone lines can transmit voices as we know but then there is also other signals that allow Internet, and in the Dial Up era we would pick up phone and hear all the beeping noises. So not just a phone book but the addresses can also be part of a form of code system, but works like pressing the 2nd function key on a remote or whatever and suddenly you are typing channel numbers associated with the button instead of letters
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I wish we could have seen the Asgard gatesystem, but there was no concept at this stage at SG-1 season 2. If we ever get a new spinoff or tv movie, it would be nice to see more gate sytems around the Milky Way.
It's great that they maintain the phone analogy throughout the series, yeah. Or the time when they got stuck in Antarctica... "What happens when you dial your own phone number?" "You get a busy signal."
What I (NOW) laugh at is the Asgard saying "We" are worthy of anything on a galactic scale. We'd be slapping sanctions on the Asgard (USA), or be condemning them for not allowing "refugees" from Earth (the E.U). 🤣😂🤣 👽
Zedrophobia remember, Jack added a bunch of stuff, in machine code, to the computer. He must have added the archaic code to add the interface. (lol). 😂🤣
@@dsbeerf It's implied that the stuff Jack added was a regular DHD operating system. Which would of course include 8-chevron processing, as well as the whole gate system.
That's how gate addresses work, the final symbol is always the local point of origin, like a null-terminated string. Technically, the design of the PoO symbol doesn't even matter, you could bring another planet's DHD to Earth, connect it, and it should work fine since it's still the same "symbol index" internally. The design being planet-specific is to make it stick out from the other 38, as well as being a secondary method of identifying _which_ planet you're on.
@@ThaFuzzwood Yes and no. SGU introduced the idea of Nine-Chevron Addresses acting as "access by gate serial number", which was the only way to dial Destiny since it was out of even Eight-Chevron range (depositing gates in galaxies that "had yet to be assigned an Eighth Chevron Area Code"). Assuming enough power was supplied, if you knew the eight symbols of a gate's serial number, you could _theoretically_ Nine-Chevron your way from any gate to any other gate (even between Earth and Abydos, if they knew how to identify those gates' serial numbers, using the same amount of power as the traditional Seven-Chevron method since travel distance is the main factor in determining power requirements).
@@WackoMcGoose9-chevron-mode was probably only ever meant to be used by the Alterans. Mortals could figure out the 'grouped by area' constellation system with a 'home' glyph to finish the sequence.
@@WackoMcGoose It wasn't just because the galaxy didn't have an assigned 8th chevron. Destiny was constantly moving as a ship, and so would be changing address constantly if you weren't to dial the specific gate.
Props to whoever wrote the code to actually process chevron 8 and frontend to display it. Not like they knew it could happen but they coded it in anyways. SW engineering at it's finest.
i think the extra space for the 8th chevron was due to the coding jack under the influence of the 'ancients' database that was downloaded into his mind put in while he added all the gates that the normal goa'uld never knew about lol
@@NovaLight1990 Yeah, it makes total sense that at the same time as Big Brain Jack coding the system to be _capable_ of dialing Eight-Chevron Addresses in the first place, of course he'd also update the GUI...
The sad part is I know enough electrical engineering to know that the circuits STILL should have blown. Circuit breakers are only designed to channel certain amount of amps before they trip, so even if the stargate is trying pull more power, and even if it's being FED more power, the size of the "valve" in which that power can be channeled is only so big, thus the breakers would still trip and the stargate shuts down. I get around that, Jack would of had to add more connections to the stargate, so the gate would have more "hoses" to pull more power. So either that capacitor that O'Neill built is somehow wirelessly transmitting power to the gate,or I just found a plot hole, a very esoteric plot hole.
who knows really? i mean stargate tries to stay at least somewhat believable when it comes to the science, but it is possible the bootstrap 1 use only ZPM he built also had a wireless transmitter to the gate the same way i think the DHD is both a dialer and a power transmitter seeing how the gates themselves do not have a power source
@@NovaLight1990 The gates are themselves massive capacitors, too. Maybe under normal circumstances, the gate draws _just enough_ power to dial a local address, stops drawing power, and begins dialing (which is why unplugging the gate never seems to kill the connection, it's already stored all it needs... plus that episode where they beamed the gate up to a ship in orbit and it had just enough _stored_ power to manual-dial out once). It drawing power for _far longer than normal_ was the red flag. ...Of course, this _doesn't_ explain why you can't just "charge it long enough off the normal power grid" to dial an Eight-Chevron Address...
@@WackoMcGoose personally i think it could but the SGC's power grid was the limitation and it possibly would take weeks if not months of charging to have enough power for a dial out and even then it might've only been a brief wormhole like in Atlantis's message in a bottle where the ZPM on Atlantis literally only had enough power to dial earth for a second or 2, and t hat's why jack made his one time use ZPM, though why they never replicated it after i don't know as they literally had people watching him build it X_X plus even 1 time use for intergalactic dialing it would've been powerful enough for more mundane things and it was literally outside of the jaffa staff weapons liquid power cell all human tech, *sighs* sometimes it irks me that they come up with things such as jack ZPM they could've studied easily and just forgets it after
Well, technically every NCO is a sergeant. No matter how high in rank one gets as an NCO, one will still be referred to as “sergeant.” It’s like when an officer makes general. There are many different ranks of general (1-5 star), but all are still referred to as “general.”
The older I am the more I appreciate Hammond. While he was always supportive of the team, he also had a strong no-nonsense attitude. His "So far" and "What plan?" responses show that he just won't brush away security concerns and that he won't accept anything for explanation.
In media, strict and competent leaders are usually the antagonists or at least obstacles for the heroes to overcome. Hammond managed to be both strict and competent but also another hero of the show.
He's seen enough shit to be very cautious about things. Case in point, the incident with the note from 2010.
O'Neill: "...Wasn't -970 on our upcoming mission list?"
Hammond: "Not anymore it's not, I'm not taking any chances. I want P4C-970 removed from the dialing computer immediately!"
Dude, that guy getting to say "Chevron 8 is locked" was actually the luckiest guy ever, he got to speak a line that was a huge milestone in the Stargate series. So the fact they gave it to one of the minor actors, is pretty crazy.
feels more realistic that way
And where is Walter at a time like this?
I wonder how they picked him ...
Really nailed the delivery!
Remember on Atlantis when Rodney tried saying that chevron 1 was encoded and everyone looked at him like he was stupid? That leads me to believe that the line in this wasn't such a huge milestone.
I think this episode "The 5th Race" was voted as the finest by the fans. I agree. I still get a lump in my throat when the Asgard tell O'Neal that "you've already taking the first steps to becoming the 5th Race" . It's a pivotal moment and we have to wait to the very final episode in season 10 when Thor confirms to Sam that "you are the 5th race". How's that for a plot elongevity.
I got goosebumps just reading your comment
@@snakedoctor6969totally. The Asgard saw the potential in Earth. Another episode, Red Sky, O’Neill mentions the Tolan are gone the Asgard say that’s sad, but when O’Neill says Earth may be lost the Asgard say “very” sad.
It felt like next generation. It was a moment of hope.
I remember my jaw falling on the floor when the eighth chevron was revealed
On all honesty it makes sense for it to be able to use a 8 distance marker the portal could have been a seven sided shape but it's a ring
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yeah, that was of the most epic moments of the whole SG.
I really appreciate that Daniel is the one who speaks up for Jack here and when Daniel is ready to ascend the person who he gets to speak up for him is Jack.
They are the definition of "BFF."
Some poor Asgard on the other side is waiting to use the gate and wondering what the heck is taking them so long to come through.
The address was recognized as 8 not 7. Scared them.
Ah, the episode that at long last confirmed the Goa'uld hadn't built the Gates. We'd spent a season and a half not knowing who built it, but assuming they had. Meeting the Asgard in person, learning about the Alliance of the Four Great Races in more detail after ToT, revealing the 8th chevron, the Ancients being fully realized, this was such a great episode.
we've lost the traveler oh shit boy!!!
A huge thing though is the sarcophagus. Ancients didn't build them because it was never shown by Ancients and had no ancient writing on it. Goauld stole tech from the ones they took over.
We never met the race that built the sarcophagus nor hand devices and others. The rings were retrofitted to be ancient but Ancients really never used rings either. Atlantis had transporter elevators. No rings.
Only rings were in the Antarctica episode when fighting anubis that made it ancient. They shouldn't have done that.
@@fr9714in some later episodes its revealed that the sarcophagus tech was also reverse engineered ancient tech from some magic healing box that would make anyone using it go crazy😂
@@fr9714 Atlantis's teleportation elevators could simply be a different form of the rings.
The rings' design is very similar to the stargates themselves as well.
Based on this, I'd say it's quite likely they did build the rings. Also, considering the fact that they're constantly hidden away, they could be basically everywhere, SG1 just can't find them
@@ninjadragongamer6861 I think the transport elevators were not rings which were very distinct in their construction and feel and mode of operation. These were simply Lantean transporters.
The rings imo could have been from a race never mentioned ever. And that makes it more appealing than making it retrofit to ancients doing everything in the galaxy
Props to the GUI designer of the gate dialing software that included a visualization for the 8th chevron. Just in case. Who knows?
Jack probably coded it in when he reprogrammed the computer earlier in the episode.
Was thinking the exact same thing. He even had the foresight to make it red and reserved some space on the screen! Maybe some sort of user acceptance test? Probably double checked with quality assurance to cover all eventualities. After having to design this weird character set of glyphs, the extra spot just was a small thing.
The episode wouldn't have been the same with a "Segmentation fault (core dumped)"
Well, the designer was probably brought onboard before the very first Abydos dial. Since there are 9 chevrons on the gate, he/she probably assumed that all would be used and designed the display accordingly. They didn't really know what to dial (at least, officially) until Daniel came onboard.
He could have made it so that it just put a new box so many units below the previous for each new chevron. It's how in some UI's you can end up with a ton of menu option running below the bottom of the screen if something wierd put a bunch of extra ones there.
The fact that Jack's subconscious brain built a zpm from ancient knowledge is just insane. Asgard saw that, realized humans are evolution of Ancients and were mind blown. Plus the fact Jack had the ancient gene allowing access to ancient tech means the Ancients were back from asgard pov and they wanted to be friends. Because they knew humans would become the Ancients soon
It's nowhere near a ZPM. When Atlantis finally got a ZPM, they dialed Earth regularly. This device was only a single-use and it drew its power from a goa'uld staff weapon. It would have been cool to have a handful of these devices at hand for emergencies... It was really smart that they said in this episode that the device burned out and couldn't be studied for reverse engineering and incredibly stupid for them to use it in a later episode once and never again.
The best show to ever exist, It was like a movie every episode, I still watch it every night, after 20 years, since high school.
Same here buddy.
This was the moment of the revelation of a much bigger Stargate universe. I can only hope we get more networks in future spinoffs as Ancients could have colonised the whole Local Group.
They do have FTL tech. I suspect that it may be the super cluster at most.
Nah, it will be woke trash. Let us enjoy the few good things we have.
Density populated countless galaxies up to several billion light years away with stargate networks, so there are quite a lot of stargates out there
@@Halesburg Have you WATCHED Stargate?
The whole show is woke, dude.
@@allexstahlman4003 Watch Star Trek Discovery, the Star Wars sequel trilogy, and Terminator Dark Fate. That's the kind of thing people mean when they say woke.
I wish Walter had said the line, “Chevron 7... is encoded?” Would’ve been so much more legendary.
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@@joeborder indeed
I absolutely love that encoding/locking sound the gate makes. Hell, I love the entire sequence. Always felt like an important event when the gate was activated, either incoming or outgoing.
I’d forgotten how cool the dialing sequence of the original Stargate was!
i know right? they actually made alot of the stuff dealing with the dialing and effects in house that's been used since for other shows and movies
I like the sound the gate makes whenever they start dialing next symbol.
And the sound of a chevron getting encoded! I also loved how they said "encoded" for each symbol except for the last one where they said "locked". They explain this way later in SG1, around season 7 or 8. So much attention to detail!
@Richard Burke they already dialed the 9 Chevron address in SGU
,,Tuuuuuh"! I love it too. 😁
In SGU they added a few sounds to the Milky way gate. When the gate is turning on. Sounds epic too.
@@CaptainChromyeah but needed full zpm😊😊
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Hammond, of Texas, will live forever on the screen.
I always really enjoyed the episodes where we see higher intelligent beings building amazing stuff with our basic materials. Jack making this power source and the other dude who made that single use stargate. Like you can literally make a stargate out of human materials, if you know how.
Its like you can make a Tesla coil from just 2 microwaves, or create electro magnets strong enough to suspend an adult
It's probably been said, but...
Of course he could make that out of simplistic materials. He's MacGyver!
The one time use ZEDPM
Nice touch bringing back the longer version of the travel animation since it's a longer distance.
For a man who wasn't big on sifi shows. He's set as on of the best known sifi actors. Got promoted to a general to keep him in the show. That's how much fans loved him.
He was also made an honorary Brigadier General in the US Air Force.
I had a few people talking about how the SGC's computer shouldn't have been able to do the 8 address gate, yet people seems to forget that Jack had been messing with the computer code when he imputed the gate addresses that wasn't known to the Goa'uld so it's highly likely that he also added tot eh SGC computer code the ability to do a 8 point intergalactic dial of the normal 7 point intragalactic that's normally used
+Nova Light That plus it's a T.V. show. But if they needed to they could write an explanation that could be given by Carter. Amanada Tapping has always said she studied enough to understand the science or potential science of what strange thing was scripted.So enjoy
That's what Daniel says : the library gave Jack the knowledge to seek help ! Anyway there's no point of discussing that : the gate started dialing by itself so yes, Jack put a remote dialing routine. He also added the missing Milky Way gates so why would it be so strange for him to add the ability to dial a 8-chevron adress just once ?
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It was also said a number of episodes and I think a season later, that the dialing program Jack made here to dial 8 Chevron address was removed by Carter after this and replaced with the OLD standard 7 Chevron dialer, although they KEPT the Jack 8 Chevron dialer. I do not recall which episode this is stated, but I do recall it was said by Carter that they removed this dualer to study before integrating the changes and ability to dial 8. Obviously they added the 8 dialer back BY season 8 as that was the season they dialed Atlantis from SGC using a ZPM hooked into the power grid at SGC to power the gate for dialing a 8 Chevron address. Then of course you got SGU which required a WHOLE PLANET of Naquadria to dial the 9 Chevron address for Destiny on the other side of the universe. Basically a 9 Chevron address is like using the MAC address of a network device and dialing to that directly... no matter where you are, that address is unique so no matter WHERE it is in the universe, moving or not, it knows where to connect to, but since destiny was SO far, it required a planet power source. I wonder if they could dial desting with a 7 chevron address if destiny was in the MILKY WAY galaxy?? I wonder if EVERY stargate had its own unique 9 chevron address
@@Crosis2814 most likely yes, each gate has a 9 chevron and potentially even 10 and beyond chevron address, as stated, the extra chevrons are just distance modifiers, so in theory, the further something is away, the more chevrons and gate power needed.
Stargate has to be the most daring and brilliant masterpiece in television ! they made something in the 90's that still holds up in 2023!
It just popped into my fron, that 33 people have something cruvis with them.
The Blinking Ghost 38, now. It seems to be contagious. I recommend the isolation ward. 😷😀
@@dsbeerf 👈😁
Its actually phron
Is it totally weird that I remember Ancient and understand this comment? 😂 And btw, its 206 now and its during the Corona outbreak in 2020 February!
207 - it's spreading!
"I'm just supposed to let you go?"
"He's already gone general"
I remember watching this on TV back in 90s. Its an important episode since the first movie. 8th chevron man!! Whole new level.
Such an EPIC everytime when Jack speak ancient and dial the eighth code., the theme of the Ancient begin to play
Love how Tilk was very concerned for his best friend Jack 🤗
He's Already Gone General!!!🤣😅😂 Daniel knows the General Agreed
Every episode with the fifth race was like the best piece of cake. Czapki z głów przy SG-1. Bring back the news from universe
I so love this show!! I could watch this a million times and still enjoy it. 👍👍
first time i ever watched this it was epic, now watched it countless times and its still an epic scene.....
I started watching SG-1 and this is one of the best episodes so far. Emmerich will never match this with his crappy new "reboot trilogy" of movies.
Emmerich created the first movie though (1994). Which by far I still consider far better than the continuing series. Through usage of practical effects and little computer imaginery, they achieved far better results in how it looks and how it works.
@@CZghost By far more expensive to do all that.
@@CZghost you can't really compare a Hollywood movie and a series when it comes to effects or other things. The budgets make a huge difference. However I find what Stargate did lore-wise a lot better than what the movie started
If Amazon has any brains at all, they’ll never let him near Stargate.
God I love the long version of wormhole travel, wish they used it more often.
HOW COULD YOU NOT INCLUDE THE ENDING? OH MY GOD
+Dread Master Raptus I was experimenting with my computers video programs when I originally uploaded this video so sorry if your upset with it not being fully there
Nah, leave it on a cliffhanger for suspense? For anyone who hasn't seen this series, definitely a good idea!
Yeah, how could you end there? I suggest you end it when O'Neal gets there and the camera pans down the long hallway.
Well it ended up with Jack being presented with a great deal on a time share on some beach front property.
and still over 700`000 views!!! bravo
This is the best Stargate episode to me. I rewatch it many times over and always have fun !
And some say the traveler is still going to this day. Lost and alone in a never-ending wormhole...
Leon Kernan did you come up with that because that is lovely
And he never returned
No he never returned
And his fate is still unlearned.
He will ride forever
Through a Stargate's wormhole
He's the man who never returned.
davincent98 So who throws him his sandwich, every day as he passes by?
@@Egilhelmson good question
even with dirt on her face Amanda Tapping is Beautiful
They litterly put a failsafe in the ancient database. If your not advanced enough to hold our knowledge dial this gate adress.
As a software developer, I would like to know, which genius had the foresight to leave space and program the red 8 in the display.
To be fair, it's not hard to assume that it would be needed, given it can be seen that the gate has nine chevrons. They all must have a use.
Its more likely the program is displaying data from the gate. Thus if the gate outputs 8 cheverons so be it.
Isn't this a mix of the old human made interface and the ancient modification jack added? So Jacks modification would also add this necessary space for another chevron.
One of my favorite episodes of Stargate. I just wish someone would post the scene where Jack meets the Asgard
sg1 and atlantis are on netflix, get a month free trail, its hd aswell
xxJOHNLIKESPIExx They can not be seen on the Instant Queue. It can only be order via DVD.
thats wierd, it works for me, what country do you live in, it might be that, sg1 only became available in uk about 6 months ago
xxJOHNLIKESPIExx US. Guess there are different policies.
***** I am aware.
Jack built a basic zpm
yep 1 use only though
Not really. This is a small naquadah generator
Nova Light Yeah but he made it out of terrestrial materials (mostly) and they succeeded in getting a second charge out of it in a future episode. Shouldn’t they have built more of them? Might not have been enough to power the ancient weapons platform but it could dial Atlantis.
he made a one-time-use ZPM
It was actually more like a naquadah fusion generator. No zero-point energy was involved.
Imagine you got to be the extra on the day chevron 8 was dialed for the very first time.
if only there was a channel out there, where we could watch these old sci-fi shows, how nice that would be. they could call it the sci-fy channel even to attract people's attention to it. lol
Man it’s cool to see all the fans who know the intricate details of the show. I thought I was the only one. Thank you my fellow SG-1 fans
You know, I always wondered why they couldn't dial the gate 'by chance' in the original movie because they said "we've never gotten this far" before while dialing the gate the first time Daniel Jackson is there. But now that I think of it, it's probably because before Daniel figured out it was 7 symbols, they may have been dialing all 9 because they figured there must be nine for a reason, and no random address would have worked in that case.
Well in the original movie Abydos was another galaxy as well, I'm happy that they retconned this
Having watched almost all of Stargate content, one thing just occurred to me. In the original movie, they know 6 symbols thanks to the cartouche. The gate has 36 symbols I think. If you minus the 6 known and uses symbols, they would have had 30 symbols to try as number 7, so honestly it shouldn't have been hard to open as long as they always used the 1st 6 and then just try every other symbol 1 by 1 as chevron 7. Complete random dialling of course was needle in haystack.
Retconned to hell, the first canonically dialed stargate in the series was on some broken down world where the explorer got tripped for 50 years because of the stargate dialing device being destroyed. The stargate from the movie was also stated to be at the edge of the known universe many galaxies away. The problem of their not being that many symbols on it is just a problem it inherited from a movie where the gate was only really supposed to go to one destination.
In order to dial 9 chevrons, you still have to dial 7 first. So before they reached the 8th and 9th chevrons, the gate would have simply opened once they used the right symbol.
@@Domihorknot really, last chevron of the sequence needs to be the point of origin for the gate to activate,, it serves as sort of delimiter
Chevron 7 to 8 took 30 seconds, longer than most of the series takes to dial the whole thing!
+Leon Kernan i have come to the conclusion that most of the reasoning behind how the stargate works is just made up on the fly to suit that current episode
atleast once they establish a pseudo rule they kind of stick to it. 8 chevrons for intergalactic 9 for mobile pas through a solar falre for time travel.
and black holes just fuck things up
kyle hubner they stick with the general rule but the smaller details change every episode
Shanee Bahera I think it has to do with the buildup of energy needed. This was the first time they dialed 8 chevrons so their infrastructure couldn’t send all of it to the gate at once. Whereas in later episodes (like when they use the ZPM to dial Atlantis) they are ready for it.
I like how jack built a zpm. Then Atlantis series bitched the whole time about not having extra.....
One use to connect. And then the Asgard gate provided the power to keep the gate open.
It's beautiful to see that scifi history show up again.
How I wish Carter went along
Best tv-series ever!
You should call it "Chevron 7 is... Encoded?"
im not sure if they were going to experience an 8th cheveron
Well, it had nine from the start. But the nine chevrons idea came from Emmerich after all.
In the series they more or less said that an seven symbols address dials any valid gate in the local galaxy, eight symbols dials a stargate in another galaxy (which i'd like to point out was in 1994 movie how the seven symbols address appeared to work (Milky Way to Mayak)), and nine symbols are used to contact Destiny/Seed Ships/older models that use a different method to generate wormholes that are supposed to have a shorter range.
That's the series version of the story. I wonder if Emmerich had any ideas for those though.
When I was a kid, I watched Fifth Race and I was thinking that it would be a rather ineffectual way to dial another galaxy to use another symbol to designate a different area code. That'd mean, after all, that it could only dial 37 different galaxies. In the end I settled for "it uses a different way to calculate the distance between the the targeted gate and the point of origin."
@@tywinlannister8015 Yeah there are slip ups, but it could be less of an address and more of a code, as was the case with SGU, in the sense that a different style of Data goes across, eg Phone lines can transmit voices as we know but then there is also other signals that allow Internet, and in the Dial Up era we would pick up phone and hear all the beeping noises. So not just a phone book but the addresses can also be part of a form of code system, but works like pressing the 2nd function key on a remote or whatever and suddenly you are typing channel numbers associated with the button instead of letters
Thank you......I had not seen this before. I enjoy any little tidbit of Stargate memorabilia.
No problem I'm glad you enjoyed it
Man, I've been wanting to rewatch this series lately. Sure wish Netflix streaming(US) would get it back.
Beat Monkey For $20 you can watch all of the entire series, all the movies, and the new Stargate Origins series on www.stargatecommand.co through mid May. The Origin series starts February 15th. Best 20 bucks I ever spent.
It's on Hulu now.
Currently on Amazon Prime
It's on Hulu, as well as the other two spin-offs; Atlantis and Universe
Try Prime
You need one hundred families, working together.. To make a system work.
I wish we could have seen the Asgard gatesystem, but there was no concept at this stage at SG-1 season 2. If we ever get a new spinoff or tv movie, it would be nice to see more gate sytems around the Milky Way.
Yea
I love the analogy with 8th chevron as an area code. Since all of this including the DHD Dial Home Device is pretty much an Ancient rotary phone LOL.
It's great that they maintain the phone analogy throughout the series, yeah. Or the time when they got stuck in Antarctica... "What happens when you dial your own phone number?" "You get a busy signal."
Eighth chevron was mindblowing at the young age I was.
As a Texan, I approve of General Hammond.
Anybody ever wonder what would happen if Jack punched in the 8 symbol address on a DHD?? Would he have needed to add the power booster I wonder??
He would.
In my opinion... This was the best episode of this season.
Don was such amazing actor it was so sad when he passed away.
😞😞😞😞
Amanda tappings character always says sir way too much sir lol.....sir
You kids just don't know how the words "Chevron 8" blew our mind back then.
I love stargate.. thanks for showing us
Eight more seasons I still think this is the best
What I (NOW) laugh at is the Asgard saying "We" are worthy of anything on a galactic scale.
We'd be slapping sanctions on the Asgard (USA), or be condemning them for not allowing "refugees" from Earth (the E.U).
🤣😂🤣 👽
Yeah 😂 the human race has a sh!t load of growing up to do first.
To be fair, the Tau'ri of the Stargateverse are clearly _much_ different than our world. Not to mention the planet-wide plot armor...
imagine if an ascended ancient dialed destiny like this in the SGU pilot. it would've been a lot more interesting, than the power issue haha
One of the best episodes of the series... .And part of why season 2 is the best season
This is a nice variation of the episode The Nth Degree from ST:TNG.
Some say the traveler is still en route.
Read the subtitles. "The gate is dialing out" " where dude?"
In Atlantis the first time the gate started dialing someone started saying one encoded. Could we not? Excellent.
Good thing the Asgards did not have shields around their gate!
I reckon Jack sent a code using the computer
I'm kind of surprised that they didn't send a MALP or a drone through before Jack went...
When I watched this the first time I thought ooo neat did Jack build a sorta one time ZPM?
yea but i dont think it would have had the power to dial alantis
It is used in a later episode in an alternate universe, so it works again
Indeed
Anyone noticed that the 8th chevron pops up, it would have never been coded in the dialing computer to show up, it should just be blank.
Zedrophobia remember, Jack added a bunch of stuff, in machine code, to the computer. He must have added the archaic code to add the interface. (lol). 😂🤣
@@dsbeerf It's implied that the stuff Jack added was a regular DHD operating system. Which would of course include 8-chevron processing, as well as the whole gate system.
Interested that the 8th chevron is the symbol for Earth. I guess no matter the destination Earth is always the last lock to connect
That's how gate addresses work, the final symbol is always the local point of origin, like a null-terminated string. Technically, the design of the PoO symbol doesn't even matter, you could bring another planet's DHD to Earth, connect it, and it should work fine since it's still the same "symbol index" internally. The design being planet-specific is to make it stick out from the other 38, as well as being a secondary method of identifying _which_ planet you're on.
It would also suggest that not all gates are directly accessible from all other gates. @@WackoMcGoose
@@ThaFuzzwood Yes and no. SGU introduced the idea of Nine-Chevron Addresses acting as "access by gate serial number", which was the only way to dial Destiny since it was out of even Eight-Chevron range (depositing gates in galaxies that "had yet to be assigned an Eighth Chevron Area Code"). Assuming enough power was supplied, if you knew the eight symbols of a gate's serial number, you could _theoretically_ Nine-Chevron your way from any gate to any other gate (even between Earth and Abydos, if they knew how to identify those gates' serial numbers, using the same amount of power as the traditional Seven-Chevron method since travel distance is the main factor in determining power requirements).
@@WackoMcGoose9-chevron-mode was probably only ever meant to be used by the Alterans. Mortals could figure out the 'grouped by area' constellation system with a 'home' glyph to finish the sequence.
@@WackoMcGoose It wasn't just because the galaxy didn't have an assigned 8th chevron. Destiny was constantly moving as a ship, and so would be changing address constantly if you weren't to dial the specific gate.
Chevron 7...is locked?
Teal'c...tha FUQ?
with the soundtrack as chervon 5 encodes is simply awesome
We have friends..eve.n when we dont remember..past to sense..hope
Props to whoever wrote the code to actually process chevron 8 and frontend to display it. Not like they knew it could happen but they coded it in anyways. SW engineering at it's finest.
i think the extra space for the 8th chevron was due to the coding jack under the influence of the 'ancients' database that was downloaded into his mind put in while he added all the gates that the normal goa'uld never knew about lol
@@NovaLight1990 Yeah, it makes total sense that at the same time as Big Brain Jack coding the system to be _capable_ of dialing Eight-Chevron Addresses in the first place, of course he'd also update the GUI...
Just a courtesy call. @@WackoMcGoose
One of my favorite episodes. : )
Re-watching this series right now, and holy shit, on one side 8th chevron O'neil Machivgred a home made ZPN,
3:06 I love how Teal'c is Ride-or-Die
The sad part is I know enough electrical engineering to know that the circuits STILL should have blown. Circuit breakers are only designed to channel certain amount of amps before they trip, so even if the stargate is trying pull more power, and even if it's being FED more power, the size of the "valve" in which that power can be channeled is only so big, thus the breakers would still trip and the stargate shuts down. I get around that, Jack would of had to add more connections to the stargate, so the gate would have more "hoses" to pull more power. So either that capacitor that O'Neill built is somehow wirelessly transmitting power to the gate,or I just found a plot hole, a very esoteric plot hole.
who knows really? i mean stargate tries to stay at least somewhat believable when it comes to the science, but it is possible the bootstrap 1 use only ZPM he built also had a wireless transmitter to the gate the same way i think the DHD is both a dialer and a power transmitter seeing how the gates themselves do not have a power source
@@NovaLight1990 The gates are themselves massive capacitors, too. Maybe under normal circumstances, the gate draws _just enough_ power to dial a local address, stops drawing power, and begins dialing (which is why unplugging the gate never seems to kill the connection, it's already stored all it needs... plus that episode where they beamed the gate up to a ship in orbit and it had just enough _stored_ power to manual-dial out once). It drawing power for _far longer than normal_ was the red flag. ...Of course, this _doesn't_ explain why you can't just "charge it long enough off the normal power grid" to dial an Eight-Chevron Address...
@@WackoMcGoose personally i think it could but the SGC's power grid was the limitation and it possibly would take weeks if not months of charging to have enough power for a dial out and even then it might've only been a brief wormhole like in Atlantis's message in a bottle where the ZPM on Atlantis literally only had enough power to dial earth for a second or 2, and t hat's why jack made his one time use ZPM, though why they never replicated it after i don't know as they literally had people watching him build it X_X plus even 1 time use for intergalactic dialing it would've been powerful enough for more mundane things and it was literally outside of the jaffa staff weapons liquid power cell all human tech, *sighs* sometimes it irks me that they come up with things such as jack ZPM they could've studied easily and just forgets it after
What if he added the booster on the gate side of the breaker (i.e the breaker would not of gotten the current)
I really like how they smart programmed dialing program to not crash itself when it dials unexpected number of chevrons.
No, because they used it again in the season three episode titled "Parallels".
Poor Siler, 10 years at the SGC and never makes it past Sergeant.
Well, technically every NCO is a sergeant. No matter how high in rank one gets as an NCO, one will still be referred to as “sergeant.” It’s like when an officer makes general. There are many different ranks of general (1-5 star), but all are still referred to as “general.”
@@lucasjelif Fair enough, thanks for the explanation!
This show is SO good!!!
If Teal'c had gone along for the ride would the Asgard have had anti-Jaffa tech in their entrance hall waiting to intercept him?
That is not a Problem, Every thing is Time Coded and Archived.
"He's already gone general"
Hahaha Carter sounds so young in this 😂
I love this episode
Jacks had more hairstyle changes than any woman.
xfiler93 Which is interesting for someone who is a military man.
Good god could Carter get anymore beautiful? ;)
0:43 Pennsylvania Encoded!
Ughh this is so cool
8 chevrons YOU discovered filthy planet's atmosphere
greatest tv show ever!!
Captain Carter was my greatest sci Fi girl crush lol.