Rock & Roll Hall of Fame 2024 Nominees! REACTION & PREDICTIONS
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- Опубліковано 9 лют 2024
- The Rock and Roll Hall of Fame has announced the 15 acts nominated for the Class of 2024! Let's go through the list and talk about the first timers, the repeat offenders, and the pros and cons of even having a Hall of Fame in the first place!
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RRHOF is a JOKE... that being said, Foreigner (now a glorified tribute band with ZERO original members...) finally gets a nomination... but Bad Company has never been nominated even once... Paul Rodgers not in the RRHOF...? What a total SHAME... as in R&R Hall of SHAME...
Paul Rogers should be put in under the Musical Excellence category since he’s done so much more than just Bad Co.
Your are 100% correct about Paul Rodgers, Bad Company, and Free. However, there's a story circulating that he's turned down nominations.
I forgot to mention that I had two acts on my list that I was sure would be nominated but were not: INXS and New Edition. I actually thought INXS would get it in 2023 because of Duran Duran in 2022. I thought New Edition since they performed last year and I have been reading more about them lately.
Right i was thinking in new edition as well and it didnt happen
@@girlboss3426 Yeah. I do think they will be nominated in the next few years but predicted this year.
Both great suggestions
@@footbru I've heard of most of those bands. I generally dislike boy bands but I do like New Edition. I think it's because they became popular when I was a kid. I dislike the others though.
@@footbru Those are all great Australian acts. I could see Midnight Oil getting nominated, they were pretty popular. Mental As Anything and Hoodoo Gurus were great but don't see them nominated. Brian Eno no doubt will get musical excellence. Buzzcocks and XTC are great but probably not popular enough.
Always look forward to your rrhof reactions. Other channels ignore it but I appreciate how much thought and insight you provide. Love the overall rrhof. Sure, it has flaws, but I love the overall recognition of these artists and what they have given us.
Thanks! I hate how so much of the criticism of the Rock Hall ends up targeting artists, which isn’t fair. I try to avoid doing that.
@@TrackXTrack You definitely avoid nastiness, which is why I enjoy your videos. Most of the other UA-camrs will attack which annoys me. One got me annoyed in 2022 when they cut down Duran Duran, saying they don't belong and they aren't rock. They do belong and by its strictest definition ARE a rock band. In fact I always put them in the same category as bands like U2 and the Cure who are both very similar and rarely hear the "oh they aren't rock" comments about them yet about Duran Duran. I get people don't want Dolly or rap in the HOF but I had no problem with either situation.
@@RadioLaPrincessWith exception of Hungry like the Wolf I thought Duran Duran was kind of meh . I know the Cure is big but I never latched on to them but yes they are rocknroll !
Frampton Comes Alive!🎸
Classic album !
@@TrackXTrack Peter Frampton should have been in the Rock hall of fame like 10 years ago .. We just saw him in Los Angeles !!!
The fan vote is a waste of time. It’s only worth one vote. They don’t put in the acts that everyone wants.
Yeah, most people have no idea how inconsequential the Fan Vote truly is.
That's what I Said 2 years ago , the fan vote is counted as 1 vote and the top five will get a 1 point considering there are 200 voting judges panel at tge voting committee
I voted for Cher, Lenny Kravitz, Jane’s Addiction, Oasis and Ozzy Osborne.
Solid picks
Cher?? She had, what, two hit songs in her career? What has she done to warrant induction?
Listen to her music with Sonny and listen to her solo stuff. More deserving than Dolly Parton. How many rock and roll hits does she have, ZERO.
Also I believe 2 acts are locked for side categories
MC5 in the Early Influence category given the recent passing of Wayne Kramer and the fact they were nominated 6 times without being inducted
Also I expect DEVO after 3 tries will get in through the Musical Excellence category as the Hall wants to see them be honored close to their home in Cleveland which were the Hall ceremony will be this time around
Those are good bets. Both acts have failed to get in on votes, so perhaps the side categories is their best path in.
You're definitely on point with MC5 & Devo.
@@TrackXTrack Also I think that maybe a reason there is no New Wave/Post Punk act or main 80s act on the ballot
Its being set up for this scenario
I was thinking in dionne warwick in musical influence but you probably is right too
@@girlboss3426 it can be possible for Warwick too.
Of the few reactions I have heard I would say yours is the most well-thought-out. I personally have no problems with Rap/R&B/country artists being inducted at all. Myself I'd like to see Soundgarden, Alice In Chains, Motorhead, Bad Brains, Guess Who, Merle Haggard, maybe Ice-T
Those are all great suggestions!
I agree. I have no problems with either genre. Like he stated rap is really a progression of Rock and Roll and had it been around in the 50s would have been lumped into the rock and roll category, as R&B acts have. As for country, it is relevant and the country acts inducted in the last few years have a connection to mainstream popular music. Both Dolly and Willie had many pop hits.
They have a country music hall of fame for them in Nashville
What kills me most is R&B hip hop rap peeps getting in before the rock greats and you all know who they are.
I think people would be less pissed about non rock acts getting in if they changed the name to The Popular Music Hall of Fame.
many of the people that nominate these acts have ties to hip hop, rap and r&b ... it's a fact ... they are not rock fans ... that being said most of the earlier non-rock inductees I had no problem with at all ... but recently its been just blatant ... and it's gotten out of hand.
Why not just have hip hop and rap acts have their own hall? No singing, no playing instruments, not exactly a lot of talent required. I will say it, rap is not rock!
thanks for your fair and positive feedback on Mariah！！❤🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉
Just keepin’ it real!
Since hip-hop acts are being inducted, Wu-Tang is a huge snub considering the current inductees.
Wu-Tang is definitely worthy of consideration at least
@@TrackXTrack if you're going to have Biggie, 2pac, Eminem, Jay-Z, NWA and Beastie Boys in there, there's really no argument not to include Wu-Tang (or Nas for that matter). The only inductees you can realistically argue is "above" in terms of influence are Run-DMC, Public Enemy, Grandmaster Flash and this years nominee in Eric B and Rakim.
Wu-Tang's influence is everywhere in hip-hop, like the thing people associate with the New York sound of hip-hop, that's the Rza, mafioso rap that's Raekwon and Ghostface, 5 percenter imagery that's Gza. The group across members has 4 albums which could all reasonably be in the top 10 hip-hop albums of all time.
Jimmy Buffett deserves induction. You are right, there
He's an icon!
I fully agree with you, Kyle. Very excited about Ozzy. I've got a good feeling about his chances.
Go Ozzy go!
Foreigner, About bloody time.
I agree
Neil Sedaka, Johnny Rivers, The Beau Brummels, Paul Revere and The Raiders, The Turtles, The Monkees (and Nesmith as a solo artist), Procol Harum, War, Badfinger, Three Dog Night, Grand Funk Railroad, The Raspberries, America, The Carpenters, John Denver, Jim Croce, Bread, Jethro Tull, Olivia Newton John, Styx, Ted Nugent, Johnny and Edgar Winter, The Sweet, XTC, Madness....to name a few.
Hell Fing yeah!
That’s a damn-good list. I would add one more : Gram Parsons.
Great list!
@@TrackXTrackAlso The Big Bopper needs to be in the Hall.
Wow! 😮 Right?
I’m gonna one of the rare people who think Tribe Called Quest and Foreigner should both be in the Hall lol
Very excited about Oasis! I didn’t expect them to be nominated in the near future I thought it would take them a decade or 2 for them to be a nominee
Also I wonder what finally got them to nominate Foreigner with all those alleged stories that they were prevented from being discussed ever possibly being ever nominated by Jann Wenner and Ahmet Ertegun supposedly telling Mick Jones or Lou Gramm that they would never get in?
Perhaps the new management has a new attitude about Foreigner.
@@TrackXTrack Honestly if Journey got in right away then Foreigner should have no trouble getting in
My initial impression is that I'd vote 🗳 for Oasis , Foreigner , Jane's Addiction , Sade & A Tribe Called Quest. Lenny & Ozzy are both sure things. No Eddie Money is a surprise.
Ozzy feels like a sure thing but I don’t think Lenny is a lock. Not in year one.
And there's a reason behind it:
EM didn't have a remarkable career/discography outside of few hits and his influence is marginal!
@pinkzeppelin428 Can't find your comment .. Eddie had 11 Top 40 hits in a 10 year span & is a staple on classic rock radio. He meets the criteria to at least merit consideration.
@davidellis5141 ok that still doesn't merit induction. It takes more than just having hits on the charts to actually earn recognition.
@pinkzeppelin428 He's never been put on the ballot 🗳 . Let the voters have a say. He was both a 70's AOR star & an 80's MTV star & not many others pulled that off. Pat Benatar did & she's in. I think he might sneak in ..but you can't be written in.
A better question than who should go in is which songs would be cool performed by another/ other artists?!
Yeah, the ceremony show lives or dies based on the songs and the performers.
Foreigner and Peter frampton have the most claim imo
I don’t disagree
I totally support inducting hip hop artists as hip hop is a part of rock 'n' roll, just as R&B, soul, and funk are part of rock 'n' roll. The problem with the Hall isn't that they're inducting hip hop artists but that they aren't inducting enough of them. My choice for the biggest Rock Hall sub is Outkast. I agree with you that Mariah Carey should be inducted, but it sounded like you were saying that Kool & the Gang shouldn't be, and if so, I disagree with that. I say they should have been inducted at least 20 years ago.
Even if we all agreed that hip hop belonged in the Rock Hall, it would still be a mess. Soooo many acts deserve to be in but have been waiting forever for their turn.
You're wrong about Kool & the Gang. They will get in on the first try. They've got a lot of support from past inductees who will vote for them.
We’ll see what happens
They got in
Yes
Well April coming up and announcement soon and I should have better things to do but I don’t. Anyway this is an aside it might have been you but can’t remember but when I complained about the Steppenwolf snub, guy told me about a list of individual songs the RocknRoll Hall of Fame put in that have icontributed to and influenced rocknroll. He pointed out Born to Be Wild was listed so technically they are in there just not as an Artist . Aqualung by Jethro Tull is also in there but still these guys deserve more over some of the lamos that have been inducted as Artists . I consider that song list to being better than outright omission or no mention . Now most glaring omission on that list . Baker Street by Gerry Rafferty or maybe Stuck In The Middle With You by Rafferty’s group Stealer’s Wheel .
It was probably me that mentioned "Born to be Wild" was inducted as a single. I believe I talked about it in one of the Rock Hall Snubs videos. Jethro Tull is not in the Rock Hall at all. "Aqualung" has not been inducted as a single, either. In fact, the singles category hasn't been used since 2020, which is a shame. I think it is a great way to recognize acts whose biggest contribution to rock was really a song... a moment in time... rather than a career. To that end, I think Steppenwolf has received the appropriate level of attention for their iconic single. I don't think they are worthy of induction as a performer. Just my opinion, of course.
@@TrackXTrack Well I saw where they had a list of 500 hundred songs and then some additional ones after the five hundred . This is a team of the usual personnel . A combination of the Curator and Writers , Historians etc . I think it is there . I googled it . If it is so I guess this has obviously been done to quell the mob that hates the Hall and wants it out of the people ,who makes these egregious snub decisions , hands . I understand the logic for Steppenwolf . As one fan said “ They weren’t influential “ Still the other inclusion stunts the Hall has pulled renders that argument nil. Just a side thought here . In the 1990s , Musician’s magazine did a top 100 Guitarists of the 20 th Century . It included all genres . It was a good one . A well thought out one . The editor dropped plenty of entertaining anecdotes with the selection process . I won’t go into all of them but one was “ How can you list mother Maybelle Carter and not Roy Clark . Roy Clark was fast as lightning but he wasn’t the fastest nor very influential. Mother Maybelle Carter influenced the way thousands of guitarists played with her famous Church lick “ Anyway if that lengthy list is true by the RocknRoll Hall of Fame then it is a good inclusive list . The RocknRoll Hall of Fame might want to do one with Albums . Captain Beefheart’s Trout Mask Replica and Love’s Forever Changes would be a good start . I hope you are familiar with those two landmark LPs
Yes, I saw that list too. It was just a list, not an induction of any sort. Many great choices on the list but ultimately it didn’t really mean anything in terms of Rock Hall status.
Lenny deserves it so much. Always been doing his thing over the years, keeping up rock, keeping up soul, keeping up funk, keeping up love. Plus he's gotta be a vampire or something, man this guy doesn't age. His live performances are always top notch 💕🎶
I love Lenny, and he’s great live. But I don’t know that he’s “original” enough to have earned a place in the Rock Hall
Ngl, Im honestly surprised Peter Frampton, Ozzy and Foreigner werent already in, and i dont really listen to those guys...
Yep. Hard to believe they’ve been snubbed for so long!
Heres who I think should get at least a nomination next year: Melissa Etheridge, Tori Amos, Bjork, TLC, and with the recent acclaim from her performance at this years Grammys, Tracey Chapman. What do you think about these choices?
All great suggestions! I’m a pretty huge Tori Amos fan, but I’m not sure I’d put her in the Rock Hall. Bjork is a strong prediction since she’s one of the most innovative acts of the past couple decades.
When I heard about the Rock Hall nominees I was interested to see your perspective of the nominees. I think the list is good, pleasantly surprised by Sade, but I don't think they'll get in. Mary J. Blige will probably have to wait a lil bit longer. A Tribe Called Quest should get in this year. I think Cher will get in, as well as Mariah Carey. I think Lenny Kravitz should have been nominated years ago, but I don't think he'll get in this year.
I think you’ve got some good predictions here! We’ll see what happens!
Sinead and Cher deserve it for me.
Both are great
Iron Maiden 🤘
That’s my viewers’ top pick
They were nominated last year but not this year? Guess they didn't like Bruce Dickinson's opinion on the hof
@@Giambijuice oh did he say something? It's criminal they arent in HOF. Fans every inch of the globe
@@musictrajectory Bruce has had some really unfavorable things to say about the hof over the years. He even said he would refuse induction
I predict Mariah Carey will win the fan vote and she'll be inducted this year if previous years are to go by with big charting pop artists like George Michael, Lionel Richie, Janet Jackson, Whitney Houston.
I expect she’ll get a ton of votes too
@@TrackXTrack Of course she doesnt have a rock n roll bone in her body but that argument about the RRHOF has been done to death 😂 😂😂
Yeah but Duran Duran won 2 years ago and I don't really consider them pop. I mean they had huge pop hits but their style of music is far more alternative than pop, and they would not be a pop group today.
@@RadioLaPrincess I understand what you mean but I still consider them pop/rock - just not bubblegum pop.
No Phil Collins solo, Billy Idol, Don Henley solo, Alice In Chains, Stone Temple Pilots...Finally Foreigner though! Cher, Kool And The Gang, Lenny Kravitz, Ozzy, and Foreigner are who I see getting in this year.
Phil Collins especially is deserving
Don't even bother, theu aren't looking out for fans, they are trying to get more visitors to the museum...it's all about $$$
@@TrackXTrackWhat about Sting as a solo artist? He's a genius songwriter. How come nobody mentions him? And he has star power.
@DanalynTuthill-yl4hd I’d support that nomination
They should just call it the music hall of fame
The hollow hall.
Inconsequential, a legend in its own mind
My list of 54 acts not in the RARHOF could go down by three: Ambrosia, America, The B-52’s, Bad Company, Badfinger, Bjork, Blood Sweat & Tears, Blue Oyster Cult, Boston, Bread, The Charlatans UK, Devo, Dick Dale, Emerson Lake & Palmer, Brian Eno, Foreigner (nominated), Free, Grand Funk Railroad, The Grass Roots, The Guess Who, Humble Pie, Ian Hunter, INXS, Tommy James & The Shondells, Jethro Tull, King Crimson, Kool & The Gang (nominated), Love, Don McLean, Mott The Hoople, Harry Nilsson, Oasis (nominated), The Ohio Players, Peter Paul & Mary, Procol Harum, Paul Rodgers, Simple Minds, Sparks, Steppenwolf, Supertramp, Sweet, 10cc, Tears For Fears, Television, Thin Lizzy, Three Dog Night, Tower Of Power, Vangelis, War, Edgar Winter, X, Weird Al Yankovic, and Warren Zevon. Will any of the other 51 even get nominated, let alone inducted?
Excellent list!
Most of the voters are over 65 years old with much of the rest over 45 years old and thus in their 20's to early 40's when many of these acts were active. This means the more popular an act was when they were active, the better chance they have of getting elected, though if they do extra well in the fan vote and there could be some voters who try to vote strategically and if enough do, then they could fall short this year...
Predictions 7 get in...
1. Cher
2. Ozzy Osbourne
3. Foreigner
4. Mariah Carey
5. Kool & the Gang
6. & 7. either Dave Matthews Band, Peter Frampton, Lenny Kravitz, or Mary J Blige
Cher - Her acting career (including in the Abba inspired sequel to Mamma Mia,
Top 40 hits in different genres of music from psychadelic rock to broadway to disco to hard rock, to doo wop, to electronic dance
(1960's) "All I Really Want to Do", "Where Do Yo Go","Bang, Bang (My Baby Shot Me Down)", "Alfie", "You Better Sit Down Kids"
(1970's) "Gypsys, Tramps and Thieves", "The Way of Love", "Living in a House Divided", "Half-Breed", "Dark Lady", "Train of Thought", "Take Me Home"
(1980's) "I Found Someone", "We All Sleep Alone", "After All" duet with Peter Cetera, "If I Could Turn Back Time", "Just Like Jesse James"
(1990's) "Heart of Stone", "The Shoop, Shoop Song (It's in His Kiss)", "Love and Understanding", "Save Up All Your Tears", "Believe"
Ozzy Osbourne - His reality TV Show, Ozzfest, "Crazy Train", "Paranoid", "Mr. Crowley", "Bark at the Moon", "If I Close My Eyes Forever" duet with Lita Ford, "Momma, I'm Coming Home"Duets with EltonJohn and Post Malone, etc...
Foreigner - Mainly the legendary voice of Lou Gramm and their many Top 40 Hits, "Feels Like The First Time", "Cold as Ice", "Long Long Way From Home", "Hot Blooded", "Double Vision", "Blue Morning, Blue Day", "Dirty White Boy", "Head Games", "Urgent" with Junior Walker on sax, "Waiting for a Girl Like You", "Juke Box Hero", "Break It Up", "I Want to Know What Love Is", "That Was Yesterday", "Say You Will", "I Don't Want to Live Without You"
Mariah Carey - 19 Billboard Number 1 singles, second only to the Beatles, 28 Top 10 Billboard songs, etc...Her covers of Harry Nilsson's "Without You" & Foreigner's "I Wanna Know What Love Is" and many duets including with Whitney Houston, Boyz II Men, Luther Vandross, etc...
Kool & the Gang - Top 40 hits (1970's) "Funky Stuff", "Jungle Boogie", "Hollywood Swinging", "Higher Plane", "Spirit of the Boogie", "Ladies Night", "Too Hot"
(1980's) "Celebration", "Jones vs Jones", "Take My Heart (You Can Have It If You Want It)", "Get Down On It", "Big Fun", "Let's Go Dancin' (Ooh La, La La)", "Joana", "Tonight", "Fresh", "Misled", "Cherish", "Emergency", "Victory", "Stone Love"
There music ranged from Funk to Soul to Disco to Pop and R&B, they also popularized the Jheri Curl.
Dave Matthews Band - Getting the top spot of the fan vote and not getting in the last time they were nominated, plus a handful of recognizable songs put them on the fence of getting in this year. My guess is they are more likely to get in this year than not.
Peter Frampton - One multi-hit record "Frampton Comes Alive", his reputation as a guitar legend and his failing health possibly helps him to get in this year, though he is also on the fence. Should go in with a Musical Excellence Award rather than as a Performer, so he may get the Judas Priest treatment if he is close to getting in.
Lenny Kravitz - Rock guitar God who is as much known for being Katniss Everdeen's Stylist in The Hunger Games movies. Songs he is known for are "It Ain't Over Til It's Over", "Are You Going My Way", "Fly Away", his cover of The Guess Who's "American Woman", "Again", "Dig In", "Lady"
And he is the father of actress Zoe Kravitz
Mary J Blige - Top 40 hits "You Remind Me", "Real Love", "Sweet Thing", "Be Happy", "I'm Goin' Down", "Mary Jane (All Night Long)", "Not Goin' Cry", "I Can Love You" with Lil Kim, "Everything", "Family Affair", "No More Drama", "Rainy Dayz" with Ja Rule, "Love @ 1st Sight" with Method Man, "Ooh!", "Be Without You", "Just Fine", "Runaway Love" with Ludacris, "911" with Wyclef Jean, Just Stand Up" (to Breast Cance)(with Carrie Underwood, Beyonce, Mariah Carey, and other women),
She also sung in the Rock Musical "Rock of Ages 3 songs, "Harden My Heart" (originally by Quarterflash), "Shadows of the Night" (originally by Pat Benatar), and "Anyway You Want It" (originally by Journey), and sang part of the ending song "Don't Stop Believin'" (also originally by Journey)
She may get in thanks to not having a more famous rap/hip hop nominee.
As for those who I don't think will have a good chance of getting in this year.
A Tribe Called Quest and Eric B. & Rakim are so niche that only hardcore rap fans will vote for them and among the voter base they do not make up a significant enough group. Had the selection committee nominated Lil Wayne, Ludicrous, Daddy Yankee, Snoop Dogg or 50 Cent, then rap would have one of the 7 spots. Many of the casual rap voters will largely vote for Mariah Carey, Kool & the Gang, Mary J Blige, Sade, & Lenny Kravitz, some will also vote for Ozzy because of his reality TV Show, Foreigner because of their hit songs, and maybe Sinead O'Connor because her hit was a cover of a Prince song.
Sinead O'Connor has one hit song which was a cover, one memorable performance of that song on Saturday Night Live and a shallow discography in comparison to the other nominees.
Jane's Addiction has a shallow discography and aside from one to maybe a few songs which have been used in other media.
Oasis is better known than Jane's Addiction in the voting populace, but still other than Wonderwall and maybe one or two of their other songs, the Brit pop of the 1990's probably isn't as well known with a voting populace largely over the age of 65.
Sade's jazz pop fusion is better known than the other also rans but other than Smooth Operator, The Sweetest Taboo, & No Ordinary Love, the average voter will struggle to come up with a fourth or fifth song, though they did have two more Top 40 songs.
The nine who have a real chance at election have several songs that are fairly easy to come to mind or have a pop culture presence significant enough that they could garner enough votes to get elected.
Solid analysis
@@TrackXTrack Current fan vote
Ozzy Osbourne 66,490
Peter Frampton 56,608
Foreigner 55,375
Dave Matthews Band 52,565
Cher 50,601
Lenny Kravitz 43,220
Mariah Carey 37,692
Kool & the Gang 35,668
Oasis 33,313
Sinéad O'Connor 26,322
Sade 24,950
Jane's Addiction 23,774
Mary J. Blige 19,822
A Tribe Called Quest 15,417
Eric B. & Rakim 9,285
Total Votes: 551,102
My dream class is I feel 7 will be inducted A Tribe Called Quest, Mariah Carey, Foreigner, Peter Frampton, Kool and the Gang, Ozzy Osbourne, Oasis as performers. Cher and Brian Enos as musical excellence, Casey Kasum and Rick Dees as non performers. John Coltrane and Patsy Cline as early influence. I’m happy Kool and the Gang finally is on ballot. Cher not a big fan of but feel her time maybe now. Tribe Cslked Quest 3 times a charm.
Casey Kasem and Rick Dees! Great suggestions!
What about Willie Nelson? He was inducted last year. Two years in a row with a country act that has been inducted (Dolly, then Willie)
Yep, you’re correct. I overlooked Willie!
When will we see rock bands being nominated for the Hip Hop Hall of Fame? Or heavy metal bands at the Soul Train Awards?
Well since I am not on any social media except this one (I x d out of Twitter 2 years go ) I feel like doing another post for all my music buddies out there . Every day I vote for Peter Frampton , Cher , Lenny Kravitz , Kool and the Gang , Foreigner , Ozzy Osbourne , and Jane’s Addiction . My favorite is Peter Frampton. It looks like he has a good chance of getting in but last year my horse was Warren Zevon and look what happened . Even the very retired David Letterman came out of his hermitdom to protest that snub . Anyway Frampton is up there in the fans poll . It means a lot of people alive in 1976 like me are still around . Jane’s Addiction is low in the fans poll and I sigh a little . They were innovative and had great music . However the Lead Singer Perry Farrell IS a little feral as in whacked . He often employs over the top antics which can include grossing you out . The Hall has nominated edgy acts before but they rarely induct them . They definitely have parameters and prejudices.
I’d love to see Jane’s get in, but I agree they may be a tough sell for some voters.
Cher was recently on the Kelly Clarkson show and said she would refuse being inducted because its taken them so long to do so.....lets see how that plays out. Just an opinion but yes I do think Peter Frampton deserves to be inducted. He started with the Herd, Humble Pie, and his own solo career. He has the best selling live album and has played with many influential artist and still out there today entertaining people. He is a great musician.
I recall Trent Reznor said some very critical things about the Rock Hall before, but he changed his tune. We’ll see about Cher.
Supertramp and Jethro Tull yet again!!!
JT is definitely one of the biggest snubs ever
And definitely Supertramp
Yes, and all the members of both bands are still alive to enjoy the moment.
Interesting….id probably say;
Ozzy is pretty much a lock. Cher and Foreigner also pretty close. DMB and Mariah id say are likely. Id then say two of Kravitz, Kool & The Gang, Oasis and Frampton. Though PF may be in the Musical Excellence category.
All of those i think will get nominated again if they dont make it. Sade and Sinead probably not.
A fair assessment.
It seems to me they're finding fan base more than historical legacy.
I think that’s a factor
They are certainly not looking at musical significance. Some of these artists haven't sold the amount of records or been successful to the point of deserving induction. I think it is more a popularity vote than anything else.
I think it's a glaring oversight not to have Mariah Carey in there. Equally as glaring, where is Gloria Estefan? She did more to put Latin music artists on the radio since Ritchie Valens. And how does Dick Dale or Jan & Dean get passed over? Surf didn't stop with Briain Wilson's band.
Mariah will get in soon, I predict
@@TrackXTrack it's still head scratching the number of people and the variety of people who are not in? There are still 50s and 60s artists who have been overlooked. Whether it's the Girl groups, Surf rock, R&B; heck.... how do you put Dolly Parton in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame and not have Patsy Cline? Diane Warwick and Cher just get in now?
By seeing the pop artists in the RNRHOF, I can’t imagine if BTS would be inducted as well in some decades later😂
If K-Pop has a lasting impact, then yes, they may deserve consideration.
Great video i just stumbled on this video ,so you have a new subscriber
I think after SNL the industry turned its back on Sinead
She is the embodiment of integrity and Rock and Roll
Everyone should listen to All her work and not base it on 1 cover song she had a hit with
Just listen to her song
Queen of Denmark and judge
MC5 still the biggest snub and after losing Brother Wayne
Warren Zevon another big miss for the hall
Pixies and Sonic Youth need to go in , so people can stop calling it a joke
Very surprised on you Mariah endorsement , I just don’t see it
Cher yes
Sade ( huge fan but RRHOF , No )
Ozzy ? Why not Randy Rhodes as sideman thats who deserves it!
I would pick Foreigner over DMB
And Quest over Rakim
Oasis : would boost publicity with talk of fight or reunion
I can only assume the Captain Beefheart induction is being held up by trying to choose from musicians lined around the block who would make the speech
CAPTAIN BEEFHEART , need I say anymore
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I agree with you completely on Sinead, MC5, Zevon, Pixies, Sonic Youth... well nearly everyone you mentioned. I will point out that Rhodes actually WAS inducted in 2021 win the Musical Excellence award, so he got in before Ozzy.
As for Mariah, I'm not a "fan" of her music, but I think she's second only to Whitney Houston as one of the most iconic female voices of the 80s/90s, and was highly influential on so many women that followed. On top of that, she had tons of hits and global success. In both influence and popularity, I think she's an easy yes for the Rock Hall.
@@TrackXTrackFame being the optimum word when justifying Mariah
One other huge snub and i cant go back over your entire channel is Gram Parsons
Some country does have a place in this Hall of Fame
@jessem470 Parsons was more Alt-Country, perhaps the grandfather of the genre. Sadly he was not included in the Byrds induction. I agree he is worthy of recognition.
Hip hop does not belong. This is supposed to be Rock and Roll. Grand Funk Railroad is overdue. The phenomenon they were from 69 to 71 is enough to put them over anyone in the last 20+ years.
Yes! Peter Frampton is a multi-talented artist and over qualifies to be inducted.
Grand Funk is one of my viewers’ favorites in terms of snubs
I voted for foreigners, Lenny, Sade, and Peter Frampton, not for ozzy. It is unfair for RJP ( Dio)..
Dio is a snub for sure
Ozzy the big one
Long overdue
Until they add Iron Maiden. They have snubbed them to long. I wouldn't care if the RRHOF disappeared tomorrow. To delay them this long shows how invalid they are.
Iron Maiden is my viewers’ top voted pick !
I totally see things with regard to Oasis in the way you compare them to Kate Bush. They are both so British, that I do not see Oasis getting in, although I would love it.
I don’t think Kate Bush would have gotten in if not for Stranger Things, and I think Oasis has a better shot than her, so we’ll see …
@@TrackXTrack I wish I could argue with you, as I adore Kate but you’re right. That’s why it’s so surprising to see Sinead nominated, her first album is among my favorites but to see her nominated is shocking to me!
I really happy to see Sade listed, if she doesn’t get in , I agree she will never be listed again would love to see Anita Baker nominated next ❤️🙏
The seven nominees I voted for in the fan vote: Sinead, Sade, Cher, Tribe, Oasis, Kool & the Gang, and Jane's Addiction.
There's a strong case to be made on Sinead. She influenced many prominent female alt-rock singers from Tori Amos to Bjork to PJ Harvey to Alanis Morrisette to Sarah McLachlan to Fiona Apple. She shares a lot in common with Kate Bush because they both influenced these artists. Plus, there's a Showtime documentary on her that came out two years ago that received strong acclaim by critics in addition to a tribute concert at Carnegie Hall next month in her and Shane MacGowan's honor that might raise more awareness of her life and career.
I wouldn’t complain if Sinead got in. Highly influential yes, but I’m not sure it’s enough.
@@TrackXTrack I once told a friend that Amy Winehouse will get inducted by 2030 and my friend was like "really?? Amy Winehouse in the rock hall? Why?? She only released two albums and had one big hit song in America." I said to him "yeah, but her music is still influential to current day female pop singers like Adele, Lana Del Rey, Billie Eilish."
Sinead? No way.
@@ladariusmcdonaldAmy was amazing,she definilly deserves to be inductee in the future
I just do not see how Kate Bush takes so long to get in and Sinead slides in, certainly not before Bjork. The fact that Sinead joined a religion that gay people are killed really burns me, if Sinead joined the Mormon Church they'd hold it against her.
This is madness as a member of the LGBT community.
Boston and Billy Squier ,should have been in years ago!!!!
Boston I can see. Not sure BS has earned it though
Four or 5 more years and Fefe Dobson would be eligible! ...well, wishful thinking, anyway. The record companies screwed her over too much and it's a true shame. She has more talent than people think!!
Unique suggestion !
Trax, I'm sick of this RNRHOF ....it's dreadful
You don't know much about Kool & The Gang, right? I mean besides, Celebration and Ladies' Night? One of the longest standing groups out there, started as kids back in 1964. They have a huuuge reputation and their induction is long overdue
The RRHOF is a joke. What it is is any act that has some popular success gets in after 25 years, regardless of quality.
@@Spo-Dee-O-Dee More like the Hall of LAME in most cases.
It is a popularity vote, nothing more.
Now Mr. Track as usual you are the best and ( unlike me ) sans vitriol with your commentary and very astute . I wasn’t a huge fan of Foreigner but I liked a lot of their songs and will be voting for them in fan’s poll and you basically pitched Jethro Tull again this year when you were nodding approval of Foreigner . Excellent and maybe one day . Anyway I will not be voting for Oasis. Yes the brothers are turds but that isn’t the reason . For me Badfinger , the Raspberries , Big Star , and Flamin Groovies are much better Beatles force influenced bands than Oasis whom I find mediocre . Most surprising was Peter Frampton who I thought would be a forever snub and of course he gets my vote . Now as far as influence Hall says that is a major criterion but that is bs . Dick Dale , Captain Beefheart , , King Crimson , and ,yes , Jethro Tull would have been in there a long time ago Take care friend .
Lots of great suggestions there! As for Oasis, I’m not much of a fan personally, but objectively I think they probably deserve to be in the Rock Hall more than they don’t. But I wouldn’t vote for them right now. They can wait. LOL!
@@TrackXTrack and in parting try “ Shake Some Action “ with the Flamin Groovies if you are not familiar with them .
Frampton 2024!!!
A popular choice!
Johnny Thunders is Rock and Roll
He deserves consideration as part of the New York Dolls.
@@TrackXTrack I mean, what he did everyone is still doing
Oasis are the biggest on the list by a mile
They’re definitely worthy
@TrackXTrack the only thing stopping Oasis from smashing America was themselves.
There's still time on that one 😆
Only 4 deserve to be in and that would be Ozzy, Jane's Addiction, Foreigner and Kool and the Gang.
Solid picks
No Warren Zevon ,Jethro Tull, Dan Fogelberg and what about old guys like Neil Sedaka and Lou Christie Rock and Roll Hall of Fame is a effing joke
Those are great suggestions
Iron Maiden anyone????
Spoiler Alert: They were the top pick by Track X Track viewers! ua-cam.com/video/xq4vRZs1HOc/v-deo.html
I don’t care for your dissing kool and the gang they lots of hits and deserve a place among the greats, try singing lady’s night
They should just rename it the pop music Hall of Fame, because every year people go what that artist isn't rock and roll!? The common thread is pop music, genre doesn't matter
Don’t care but Ozzy will win the fan vote
Oasis for certain. Ozzy is a lock and Dave Matthews should have been in their year of eligibility.
DMB got robbed last time!
Comparing Mariah Carey to Aretha Franklin...that's a hard NO!
At no point in this video did I compare Mariah to Aretha. I simply said that the Rock Hall has been inducting R&B since the beginning, including the first woman to be inducted, which was Aretha. I was defending R&B going into the Rock Hall, using Aretha as a prime example.
They might as well put Taylor Swift and Cardi B. Would be a good laugh 😂
Taylor Swift and Cardi B will definitely get in when enough time passes.
Taylor Swift has more than earned it and should be inducted when she reaches eligibility.
WARREN ZEVON!
Very overdue!
Devo, King Crimson, Kraftwerk. Agree that it's not important, but the R&R HOF is kind of a vanilla, milquetoast, cardboard joke.
Those three acts are long overdue
Kraftwerk got inducted under Early Influence in 2021
You're wrong about 2024 being two years without a country act, Willie Nelson last year was inducted. Also, Kool should actually get inducted, they were one of the biggest acts of the 70s and 80s, which is a rarity.
Ah, yes yes yes. You’re absolutely right. I overlooked him. Still, I’m surprised none were nominated this year.
Recently Cher was on Kelly Clarkson and said she would refuse being inducted because it's taken them so long to induct her.....we will see. Yes....Peter Frampton is well deserving of the nomination and should be inducted...he started with The Herd,Humble Pie and his solo career. A great artist . Just an opinion.
@@TrackXTrack Me too, I thought Patsy Cline would get a nom. Like Dolly and Willie she was a huge crossover artist. Curious why you think Kool and the Gang doesn't have a shot? I think they should have been inducted years ago. I suspect they will because they have Spinner syndrome, aka I think only one original member is still living. I'm glad they inducted the Spinners last year when the last original member could see before he recently passed. I'm not a huge Kool fan, I mean I like many of their music but would not consider myself a big fan by any means. Then again the HOF rarely does the right thing. I do think a few like Ozzy and Mariah are pretty much locks. I know the HOF has screwed over metal many times, but Ozzy is a well known character and far more mainstream than either Judas Priest or Iron Maiden.
@@Rockgirl24 people change their mind when it comes to this. I remember when Duran Duran kept getting snubbed and they were asked and they said they didn't think it was important and didn't care. They sure changed their mind. I can see Cher changing her mind, but yeah she should have been inducted years ago.
It is a joke! How INXS can’t get in with the catalogue they have, plus they wrote their own songs. Some of these people I haven’t even heard of . Rock and roll my ass
INXS is one of my top snubs
They should just change the name and most complaints would cease .
Box ticking hall of fame
Rock on Styx
Agree!
You're on the fence on Frampton????
A true, overdue rock icon!.
Give me a break.
Sade, Cher, and Mariah are " rock and roll stars?"
Styx, Soundgarden, Alice in Chains are vastly more deserved .
But than again it is the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame that has become a joke.
It's a very eclectic list this year. I hate that the Rock Hall likes to wait until artists are dead to even nominate them. The fact that Cher isn't in already is CRIMINAL!! I want to see A Tribe Called Quest get in, as so many hip-hop artists cite them as their inspiration. The argument that hip-hop, and by extension, black artists in general, don't belong in the rock hall is old and played and at this point, just sounds racist, which is what it is. In addition to Cher, I would also like to see Lenny Kravitz, Oasis, and Mary J. be inducted.
Well said
Metallica should be inducted into the Hip Hop Hall of Fame 😂😂😂😂
Their not inducted?
O connor seriously what did she do.
1 song, and that's it total joke
Obviously she had much more than one song. Her catalog of music is really very good if you'd give it a chance. Still, as I said in the video, I think she deserves a nomination but not an induction.
@TrackXTrack your wrong she was a 1 hit wonder.
Everything else after that failed she does not deserve to be nominated.
If that's the case brit groups like take that,girls aloud,spice girls should be in it they have all sold more records and had more hits than her and loads of other people come to think of it.
It should be called the American rock and roll hall of nonsense
so you are a fan of Sinead but don't think she should get in because she was not popular enough? Does any female singer embody the spirit of rock more than her? No. She wanted to be a protest singer and knowingly did what she did to get off the track of oop sta so she could be an artist ... while she was never allowed to have another hit son in America she was still popular in America and in Europe and across the world. She broke genres and stylized them with her own unique take. She collaborated with older music icons and contemporary as well ... she rarely did the same kind of album two times in a row. She was revered as one of the best live acts of her time and continued her whole life. For a fan you just don't seem to get it .... she is rock and roll in a female as much as Bob Dylan, Bob Marley and Joe Strummer are rock and roll. She like these men was a heavy hitter who through out her career said what was on her mind and took it on the chin and she sold records dude. How many records did Velvet Underground sale? Not many but their influence is what brought us a large segment of later sub-genre underground acts. You do not get it and should get a full on lecture from someone who does .... the spirit of rock is that of a rebel and a bad ass and someone who shakes things up ... and influences generations long after their death which she certainly will. You are dead wrong ... don't call yourself a fan ... she was more rock and roll than Frampton and Foreigner and the bore that is DMB .... don't call yourself a fan ... you make me ill ... you are kind of a pathetic poseur ...seriously once you said that weak stuff I said I'm done with this clown ... Ozzy though yes he is the man ...
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well I did say more ... and you list some worthy artists ... you have to understand I was pretty pissed when I wrote it but I say Sinead is on that top tier and my point about being a protest singer, a pioneer, and an artists who's influenc will continue goes along the lines of Velvet Underground and the Stooges ... influence matters ... this dude is kind of clueless saying a nomination is nice ... and btw I love Sioxsie ... but feel like with the way things are going it will be a cold day in hell when her band gets even nominated ... Devo, Gary Numan and Tubeway Army, the Buzzcocks, Generation X .... Billy Idol ... has he even been nominated ???? ... even Styx ... never even nominated ... and we have Mary J. and Mariah Carey on the list ... its just silly ... change the name and please dear god let a real rock hall of fame begin ... I don't have a problem with non-rock artists ..I have a problem with the hall of fame becoming non-rock ...
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I was a fan from her debut in when I was a punk ... before her pop stardum .. and I've listened to most of her work and she is someone I identify with .. we were born the same year so that matters to me ...the other thing is she is an artist in every sense of the word .. she sings loike an angel but also bellows and yells ... she rocks, sings Irish folk songs, experimented with hip hop and electronic ... collaborated with Peter Gabrielle, the singer from the Pogues, Nick Finn, Massive Attack, Roger Daltry, Roger Waters, Van Morrison and others ... peole a;ways say her concerts were amazing ... she is my favorite female musician and singer and only Siouxsie Sioux is up there for me ... I'mjust always moved by her ...
@@footbru
I don't like Foreigner, but come on.
Yeah, I’m not a huge fan but I respect them a lot
Sinbad O'Connor proposed?
I guess she belongs more than Diana Ross, lol.
C'mon
Is Melanie the only Woodstock performer NOT inducted in the Rock & Roll H.O.F ? Dolly Parton dropped a turd of a rock album in 2023. A dismal 5 weeks for the expensive project on the Billboard Top 200 album charts and the worst reviews of her career. Biggest bomb of 2023 despite its strong first week of sales and stellar lineup of guest stars.. My out of left field pick is Bobbie Gentry. She was singing Southern rock(Mississippi Delta) and pro-to-rap songs(Reunion )in 1967-68 before the genres even existed. I was glad to see she cashed in big time in 2022. At the age of 80, she signed a massive new multi million dollar publishing deal with U.M.G joining John Fogerty, Paul McCartney and Paul Anka in cashing in on the American legal clause that gives a songwriter or their estate 100% of publishing rights returned after 55 years. McCartney used this legal clause to obtain an incredible 500 million publishing deal for his early Beatles songs with Sony Publishing. As for Cher, she was on the Kelly Clarkston show months ago bitterly complaining about never being nominated for the Rock& Roll H.O.F and flat out stated "They can go **uck themselves" Even if they gave me a million dollars I would not go!"
Melanie is great, but there’s actually MANY Woodstock performers not in the Rock Hall.
@@TrackXTrack Do you thin Cher's nasty diatribe against the Rock H.O.F will have an impact? You can view it on UA-cam.
@danielrdrown1 Probably not. She’s not the first person to publicly diss the Rock Hall and get voted in anyway. If anything, that makes them even MORE rock and roll!
Joke joke Rock & roll HOF. Lets just give all the awards to music that has no business being categorized as Rock!
Just rename IT general music HALL OF FAME OK?
Willie nelson was inducted last year.
Yep, I overlooked him.
I don't see the point of it anymore. 95% of those being inducted now are just crap. And any older rock and roll bands or performers that they find seem to be scraping the bottom of the barrel. So many great artists go unrecognized for whatever reason. How many new sounds can you get from a computer anyway?
Meh, other than Warren Zevon, everyone who should be inducted has already been.
RRHOF is a clownshow. There are extremely talented & successful artists nominated and in the hall. That said, a huge number are simply not in any way a genre of Rock & Roll.
#UpTheIrons
I wish those bungholes would lay off the controversy , woke pandering , and out of box thinking and go by merit and put real Rock’n’Roll in there . I mean should early 20th Century Albert Pujol the Petomane ,who farted into a Victrola to make a recording , be considered an early influence on punk rock. Still I will vote in fan’s poll for the fun of it . I am really surprised by Peter Frampton nomination which has long been overdue . In 1976 , every college dorm room in the country had Frampton Comes Alive on their turn table . For Boomers I always ask , “ Do you remember where you were July 4 , 1976 , the Bicentennial ? “ Most know and then I answer when they ask of me “ Peter Frampton concert Nashville Tennessee ! “ Oh yes ! Show was outstanding and Natural Gas and Gary Wright were on the bill also
Put rap and disco and all that crap in their own Hall Of Fame. Don't call it the Rock & Roll Hall Of Fame if you are not going to vote in Rock & Roll artists
Quiet Riot and Motley Cru should be put in! So should Sonic Youth!
I think MC is prob worthy. Maybe SY considering their influence. Not sure that QR has risen quite to Rock Hall status, though.
@@TrackXTrack opinions vary, the Rock Hall abandoned The Monkees and Jan and Dean and King Crimson because Jan Wenner and some music industry babyboomers are fools.
Furthermore rock and roll should scare the powers that be(like parents and authority figures)not be put in a neutered baseball hall of fame dictated by corporate overlords!
@@TrackXTrack remember Screaming Jay Hawkins was SCARRY in his day!
Whitney totally deserved her induction, but I don't agree about Mariah. I'm personally surprised she received a nomination considering her history of lipsyncing. I see Sade getting inducted over Mariah. At least I'd prefer that. I see Mariah's nomination being the same as Cyndi Lauper's last year. Cyndi won the fan vote and didn't get inducted. Mariah will finish in the top 5 in the fan vote, but won't make the cut imo. It'll be an upset like how Sheryl Crow & Missy Elliott got inducted over Cyndi even though neither received half the number of votes. The females will be Cher & Sade (Sade Adu). Mary J could be the Missy Elliott of this year since she's the Queen of Hip-Hop Soul.
I prefer Sade’s music over Mariah’s, but I’d still put in Mariah over Sade when it comes to who’s earned it.
@@TrackXTrack Agree, Sade, while talented, was only relevant for a very short period of time.
@40sayers95 Sade is able to top the charts everytime they release an album even after taking 10 year breaks between albums. Their able to sellout concerts. They'll always be relevant.
Not sure if I agree with that. Sure her voice might not be what it used to be, but she was a phenomenon during her peak. And tbh everyones voice declines as they age. I beleive Whitney also had similar issues later in her career. Also one thing that really separates Mariah from Whitney is that she wrote and produced almost all her songs. Putting aside preference for her music, I think that alone make her even more deserving of an induction than Whitney.
Phil Collins got snubbed
Yeah, he is more than worthy
no monkees! bummer
Snubbed again
I'm voting for the Rock 'n' Roll Hall of Fame to not be relevant to me this year.
Oasis
Have you really seriously listened to their albums? If you can get through them more than three times in a row you deserve a medal.
Beyond CONTROVESIAL. RRHOF is simply a misnomer and a joke. The fact that you have to lead in with a rationalizing disclaimer, speaks volumes. Google ANY radio station that lists itself as having a "rock" format, and then check their playlists. Chances are good, you will not find Mariah Carey, Cher, A Tribe Called Quest, Sade, Mary J. Blige, Sinead O'Connor or Erik B and Rakim.
Oasis is a slam dunk in my opinion.
If the Rock Hall thinks about their impact beyond the US, then yes
I would hope that the people that decide this are smart enough for this obvious pick.@@TrackXTrack